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Speaker 1: My boyfriend's mother kept making inappropriate comments and I've had enough.

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Speaker 3: Were they funny comments? Though?

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Speaker 1: Hi, twenty seven female have been with my boyfriend, twenty

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Speaker 1: six male for two years. Our families are very close.

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Speaker 1: Both of our moms get along and pretty much became

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Speaker 1: best friends once we started dating. I adore his mom

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Speaker 1: at fifty female two. We've had a genuine friendship since

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Speaker 1: her son and I got together. By the way, this

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Speaker 1: comes from odd throwaway posts and if you can submit

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Speaker 1: your own stories on the r slash okay, sorry time

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Speaker 1: subad it. By the way, I'm Angie and I'm Keon,

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Speaker 1: so Op says. Let me start by saying, my boyfriend

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Speaker 1: and his mom are pretty close and they have a

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Speaker 1: great relationship. But since we started dating, she seems to

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Speaker 1: be jealous of our relationship and she seemed to start

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Speaker 1: copying me my boyfriend bought me a beanie from our

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Speaker 1: favorite local company, and suddenly she needed the same beanie.

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Speaker 1: We went bikini shopping and she bought the exact same

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Speaker 1: bikini that I decided to buy.

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Speaker 3: That's weird, that's weird.

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Speaker 1: My boyfriend bought me a camping ice chest, so she

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Speaker 1: went out and bought the same exact one for herself.

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Speaker 1: So now she's looking to buy the exact same car

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Speaker 1: as me that I bought for myself six months ago.

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Speaker 1: And for reference, I bought a four x four off

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Speaker 1: roading suv with full towing capabilities because I go camping

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Speaker 1: and ride dirt bikes quite a bit. She does not

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Speaker 1: any type of four four car. Aside from the copying,

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Speaker 1: she makes very weird inappropriate jokes. I said I wanted breakfast,

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Speaker 1: and she responds, don't she get enough sausage for my son?

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Speaker 3: AWAYO way?

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Speaker 1: Wow, Oh my god, that is so crazy. I say

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Speaker 1: I'm tired, and she says, maybe don't stay up so

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Speaker 1: late having spicy sleep. She has literally said that.

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Speaker 3: She's just a cool mom.

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Speaker 1: I guess she's just a cool mom. You're just keeping

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Speaker 1: her young. One time I made a comment about my

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Speaker 1: boyfriend having big hands, and she said, you know what

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Speaker 1: that means, right, Mama didn't raise no shrimpy yo.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, it is happening.

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Speaker 3: What is this reverse editist complex? There's gotta be another

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Speaker 3: term for it. But what is going on? Dude?

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Speaker 1: So she does say this stuff in front of my boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: her son, and he'll snap and tell her that she's

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Speaker 1: being weird, but she only ever laughs it off. She

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Speaker 1: with my boyfriend, kids, house, land, all of it. So

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Speaker 1: cutting her off or giving my boyfriend that ultimatum doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem feasible. So is this an overreaction? Do I just

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Speaker 1: And there isn't edit? But what do we think before

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Speaker 1: we get Heck?

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Speaker 3: No, you gotta put a stop to this if you

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Speaker 3: are uncapable, if you were like, there are people out

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Speaker 3: there who are like, Okay, I'm come with that. What

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Cool, cool with it, great, But if you are uncomfortable, op,

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Speaker 3: you got to draw a line before she crosses it.

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Speaker 3: She's already crossing it. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like some parents you know, are very spicy,

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Speaker 1: sleep positive and about that stuff, and that's great, but

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Speaker 3: If one her son is uncomfortable, your boyfriend you are uncomfortable. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got to stop it before she gets to a

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Speaker 3: she's like walking around the house right right walking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get that mine.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to imagine.

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Speaker 3: But these comments need to stop. They absolutely you are

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Speaker 3: not overreacting.

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Speaker 1: Right, but we do have an edits so crap hit

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Speaker 1: the fan. She absolutely lost it when my boyfriend sat

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Speaker 3: WHOA.

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Speaker 1: I made a full post explaining how that bad crap

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Speaker 1: crazy woman reacted. Thank you for all the responses and advice. Well,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't what I ever wanted to hear. I apparently

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Speaker 1: that's crazy, because you know we're gonna get it. We are,

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Speaker 1: like we have to a fifth of the way through.

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Speaker 3: We hated to get the crazy because I mean, we

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Speaker 3: we already got the crazy. I want the crazier.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, me too. We have some comments. Comment

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Speaker 1: number one says, as the mother of a son in

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Speaker 1: his twenties, she's unhinged and deeply inappropriate. He's likely been

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Speaker 1: dealing with this sameshment his whole life and is aware

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Speaker 1: that it's weird. I talk to him honestly and in

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Speaker 1: his thoughts are. Commentre number two says, this is emotional

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Speaker 1: genetic copy pasting. Oh my gosh. She sees her son

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Speaker 1: This behavior will only escalate with every further step that

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Speaker 1: you take in your relationship. Getting married, she will wear white.

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Speaker 1: Having a baby, she will insert herself as the mother

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Speaker 1: And yeah, honestly, we have read a lot of stories

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Speaker 3: That mama's boy the end of his complex. I mean,

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Speaker 3: thankfully your boyfriend knows when to put a stop to it.

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Speaker 1: Right right. Commentar number three says, and not overreacting. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: but I've read similar stories on here before and that's

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Speaker 1: unfortunately how it ended. Granted those were in context of

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Speaker 1: if you're his first committed relationship that scares her. Either way, totally,

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Speaker 1: it grows the behavior. Commentar number five says, as a

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Speaker 1: prunco or for runner Well, Opie says, thank you, it's

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Speaker 1: reassuring hearing the POV from someone that's the same age.

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Speaker 1: My boyfriend didn't know how to process any of it, apparently,

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Speaker 1: I'm really hoping this is going to be the fight.

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Speaker 3: We're probably getting it because it was an edit, so

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna say, my sister and my mom

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Speaker 3: are really close, and like I'm like, yeah, cool, but

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Speaker 3: there's a line to be drawn for every you know person,

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Speaker 1: I feel like in like period films, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, But I feel like that's a lot more

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Speaker 1: It's just a different level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we have an updates. Okay, this is one

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I was overwhelmed by the amount of responses I got

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Speaker 1: my previous post linked above, and horrified that my fears

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Speaker 1: an update from the drama that went down last month.

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Speaker 1: I sat down with my boyfriend, had a really uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe ugh. She also said there was nothing

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Speaker 3: That's aw, that's a big piece of information.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. She pretty much said, I dare you,

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Speaker 1: you'll deal with the consequences. So ties were cut. But

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Speaker 1: I personally have no guilt for the situation. I think

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Speaker 3: My fiance asked if I did it on purpose and

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Speaker 3: There was just a lot going on today. My fiance

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Speaker 3: Were you both on something? Opie says, yup, we spent

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Speaker 1: But like that was something that I even had to

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Speaker 1: It's like even with having dogs, like it's not something

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Speaker 3: been very chaotic.

438
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Speaker 1: Really.

439
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 3: This time, I'm in the bedroom. My fiance's parents still

440
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,840
Speaker 3: arguing while I'm writing this.

441
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

442
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,880
Speaker 3: I know many people may not know this, so I'll

443
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,440
Speaker 3: start by saying the dog has been found. Great. I

444
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,200
Speaker 3: saw him through the bathroom window. He was in the

445
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 3: neighbor's garden, so I went and picked him up. The

446
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 3: neighbor didn't even know about it. She was very surprised

447
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,240
Speaker 3: when she saw me, and when I told her there

448
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,440
Speaker 3: was a dog in her garden. Luckily, she was very nice,

449
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 3: didn't make any problems and just let me take the

450
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,360
Speaker 3: dog I have. I'd no idea if he was there

451
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 3: the whole time or if he only showed up later. Anyway,

452
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,879
Speaker 3: I took him up. He's behaving normally. He ate drank

453
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 3: and fell asleep on the couch at that time. After

454
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Speaker 3: I found him, I wrote to my fiance that he

455
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Speaker 3: and his parents can come back. As I wrote in

456
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Speaker 3: my previous post, I also contacted my fiance's brother. He

457
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 3: confirmed that the dog was never let out in any

458
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,400
Speaker 3: way that his father asked me. Then I told him

459
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,159
Speaker 3: what exactly happened via text. Here's his response, translated by Google.

460
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Speaker 3: You need to tell my brother and my mom. I'm

461
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 3: sorry this is happening and you're having to go through this,

462
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 3: But honestly, I'm not surprised. Ever since Sparky had that accident,

463
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 3: it was another dog attacking him. My dad has been

464
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 3: very callous. He said several times that he'd like to

465
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Speaker 3: get rid of the dog. But I didn't think he'd

466
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 3: go this far. It sounded more like a joke. But

467
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 3: why would he tell you to let Sparky out in

468
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 3: the garden and with that gate? The dog isn't even

469
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 3: used to it what. I'll try to contact mom, fiance's

470
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 3: brother and fiance's mom too. Again, I'm sorry you have

471
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 3: to deal with this alone.

472
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's all coming to fruition.

473
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 1: He set her up.

474
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,959
Speaker 3: He set her up, He framed her. Yeah, and the

475
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 3: worst part is fiance's brother believes you. Yeah, right off

476
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: the back.

477
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

478
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 3: Your own fiance was like, hmm, is this because the

479
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 3: dog attacked you? Is just because the dog jumped on you?

480
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 3: You're getting back at the dog?

481
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy.

482
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 3: Your fiance sounds kind of oblivious because again, sure you

483
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 3: didn't say anything, but it was several hours where he's like,

484
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 3: we're just cleaning the pantry. There's no spark, he's not here.

485
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, he didn't even think about it either. If anything,

486
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: should be equal to blame for this, if it's such

487
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: a big deal that she didn't check on.

488
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Speaker 3: Him, he was on my vall. She's the one who

489
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Speaker 3: let him out, Like you have also been at the

490
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Speaker 3: house all.

491
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Speaker 1: Day, right, It's like and you know more about the dog,

492
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: you know more about the house. She's literally just a visitor.

493
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 3: Yes. When they returned, I showed the message to my

494
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 3: fiance and his mother. This started a whole new argument.

495
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: My fiance's father continued to argue that he and I

496
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: never discussed it, but this time my fiance and his

497
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: mother sided with me. Fine, it's all making sense now.

498
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: Then my fiance's mother asked me and my fiance to

499
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Speaker 3: leave them. Since then, as I have mentioned at the beginning,

500
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: they've been arguing. My fiance apologized and said he was

501
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: shocked and that he felt stupid for not even noticing

502
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: that something was wrong. Honestly, I didn't feel like talking

503
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: after he accused me with such confidence yeah, so I

504
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: ended up in the bedroom while my fiance went to

505
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Speaker 3: the kitchen. I know this is a chaotic update, and

506
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: I apologize if anything is unclear, but that's pretty much it.

507
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: I don't have anything more to say. I have to

508
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: rethink some things and what happened and what means for

509
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: all of us. I also have to admit that I

510
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 3: want to go back to my home. I feel done. Yeah,

511
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: everyone's yelling at you and you don't deserve any of that.

512
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: But thank you to those who suggested I should contact

513
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: my fiance's brother. It really helps. We have a little

514
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: bit left. How do you feel if you were OPI

515
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: in the situation? What do we do? I mean, I

516
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: feel betrayed that my fiance kind of yeah, was like

517
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 3: why did you do that?

518
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: Literally?

519
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: What would you do? How would you handle the situation?

520
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: I would be.

521
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: Very mad, for sure. I would definitely at least need

522
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: space like she's getting, because I mean, you know, I

523
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: would be glad that the mom is like, okay, fighting

524
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: for me now. Yeah, sucks that she was still yelling

525
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: at me before, but now whatever. But the fiance doing that, dude,

526
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: it's not even that he is just like, oh my gosh,

527
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: like what they're saying is true, Like you did this?

528
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: Why did you do that?

529
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's like genuine what happened?

530
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: Why did you do this? But let's finish up this story.

531
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: We have a small edit. My fiance's father just left

532
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: the house. I don't know what happened, but I saw

533
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: him driving away in the car, and I'm going to

534
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: pack up and leave. Two good. I really just want

535
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 3: to be with my family right now. I'm starting to

536
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: get stressed just from sitting in the room, and I

537
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: can't handle any more conversations. We have some relevant comments.

538
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 3: A downloaded commoter sounds to me like you didn't like

539
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: getting called out for leaving an animal outside for seven hours,

540
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: so you decided to make a fake update to absolve

541
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: yourself of any responsibility regarding a situation.

542
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: Shut up, that is so insane.

543
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: Shut up?

544
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: Is this the dad?

545
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: Listen? I get it that op doesn't know much with animals. Yeah,

546
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: that's a little bit on her, like just being like

547
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: not telling anyone. Yeah, but it's not really Opie's fault

548
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: when she was literally advised to let the dog out right, Like,

549
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: calm down, Opie says, And what would that give me.

550
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: It wouldn't solve any of my problems with my fiance

551
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 3: or his parents. You're a freak. Even knowing what happened

552
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: doesn't solve this. Everything is still a mess. The only

553
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 3: good thing is that the dog was found. Was Opie's

554
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: fiance's father punted out of the house. Opie says, I

555
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: don't know if he was thrown out, but he just

556
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: drove away. And we have one more comment. Just go home.

557
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: Your fiance's father did this on purpose, hoping the dog

558
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: would disappear and you would get the blame. Yeah, the

559
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: fact that it almost worked is certainly worth reevaluating your

560
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: relationship over, but not in their house. Go home, Opie says, Yeah.

561
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't even have the energy for all this anymore.

562
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 3: It's a little late here, but I'm going to pack

563
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: and call a taxi. I just want to be with

564
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 3: my family. John here, we're gonna get back to this

565
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: juicy story, but a quick three minute break of ads

566
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Speaker 3: from our sponsors.

567
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Speaker 1: My exes girlfriend de Man did I cut ties with

568
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: his family, but they don't.

569
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: I think they like you more.

570
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: My ex Ross twenty five male and I twenty three

571
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: female broke up over a year ago. Now we started

572
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: growing apart and one of different things out of life.

573
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: We have kept things civil, kept each other on social media,

574
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: but we don't talk unless we see each other in public.

575
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: I have decided to stay single until I finish my

576
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: master's but he now has a new girlfriend, Crystal, who's

577
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: in her twenties I think and female. By the way,

578
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: that comes from a throw xyz twenty two and you

579
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Speaker 1: can submit your own stories to the r slash Okay

580
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Speaker 1: story time separate it by the way, I'm Angie and

581
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm Keon, and Op says. I was very close with

582
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Ross's family. I still have them all on Facebook, but

583
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: we don't talk unless it's to wish each other a

584
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: merry Christmas, happy Birthday, or anything else. Only a handful

585
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: of times a year out of respect for Ross. They

586
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: do like my posts, especially his mother forties female. I

587
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: asked Ross if he would rather I unfriend them, but

588
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: he says that he's cool with it and to not worry.

589
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: The other day, I received a notification from Ross's mom.

590
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: She shared a memory with me. In it, it was

591
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: of myself, Ross and his younger brother when we were

592
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: on vacation three years ago. His mom wrote, miss the beach.

593
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: She can't wait for summer, and I thought it was

594
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: a little weird and awkward, to say the least, but

595
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. A few hours later, I received

596
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: a Facebook message from Crystal saying, oh, Pee, I don't

597
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: know why you feel the need to still keep tabs

598
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: on Ross's family, but you need to back off except

599
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he is my boyfriend and please remove

600
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: yourself as its friend as well as the rest of

601
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: the families. I have replaced you, and you serve no

602
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 1: purpose to be in their lives anymore. Grow up and

603
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: get over yourself.

604
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I replaced you.

605
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: Oh honey, you could never so I haven't responded, but

606
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: I am so confused. I have met Crystal once when

607
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: I bumped into them grocery shopping. Ross introduced us and

608
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: we exchanged pleasantries. She seemed really kind. So what do

609
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: I say? Do I say anything to Ross or his

610
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: mother or talk to Crystal herself. I didn't even share

611
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: the post. I'm so confused, and there are some comments.

612
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: Mary says, I just click it so it gets marked

613
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: as red and not reply. I'd bet my house dog

614
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: and close family that she's watching the message to make

615
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: sure that Opie reads it like a hot Yeah, absolutely,

616
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: OPI responds, I read it over a day ago, so

617
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's checked it by now. Also, I had

618
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: a post that showed up on my newsfeed. She tugged

619
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Ross in a picture with the caption, don't know what

620
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: I would do without this amazing man in my life.

621
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: Lovia to the moon and back babe us against the

622
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: world XO cringe.

623
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but like, we know why you posted that. Yeah,

624
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: that was a petty.

625
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: Post exactly for lack of a better term. I can't even

626
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: deal chaos, collected says screenshot and send to your ex

627
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: and let him handle it, Opie says. I probably will

628
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: do this tonight. I won't add anything malicious or accusatoria,

629
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: but I don't think I owe her anything. If Ross agrees,

630
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: all obliged, but I'm not giving into her temper, tantrum

631
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: and fake y'all, says message to the x Hi, I

632
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: received this pretty aggressive message from your girlfriend attached. I've

633
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 1: mentioned before that I don't mind removing your family if

634
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: it was uncomfortable for you. Let me know if you

635
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: need me to do anything, But either way, I don't

636
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: want her to contact me again.

637
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: Thanks Bingo a great comment.

638
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, that's pretty good.

639
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: What Ope, seems really just like nonchalant, just go like

640
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: that and be like she's pretty sure about it, like

641
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: he's an extra a reason. Yeah, and we're cool, but

642
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: like sending that to the dex and be like, hey,

643
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: your girlfriend is hurting me and I don't want to

644
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: deal with this and I don't want this to happen

645
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: again in the future exactly.

646
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Ope, her responds, I send him something along these lines

647
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: at the screenshop waiting for a response, and we do

648
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: have an update with two days later.

649
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think it's going to be a you know,

650
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: like he's gonna handle this and like everything's gonna blowover, or.

651
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get another crazy message from Crystal

652
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: over here.

653
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: I think Crystal is gonna be like, how dare you? Yeah, like,

654
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: how dare you throw my great man into the mix?

655
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Talking behind my back? I don't know.

656
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: I told you he's mine.

657
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely something along those lines. So two days later

658
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: I posted on Reddit a couple of days after I

659
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: received the message from Crystal. After reading your comments, I

660
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: agree that I did not owe Crystal any response or action,

661
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: but I did think that sending a screenshot to Ross

662
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: would be the best idea. If he had a problem

663
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: with me being friends with him or keeping in touch

664
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: with his family on social media, I would have no

665
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: problem deleting him to me. That should come from him,

666
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: but not her. So later that night, I sent Ross

667
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: a screenshot of the message Crystal sent to me, and

668
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I added, Hey, Ross, I received this message from Crystal

669
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: a few days ago. Not sure what this is about,

670
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: but if you have any issues with me being friends

671
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: with you and your family on Facebook, just let me

672
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: know and I will respect that. Thanks, and I saw

673
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: that he read the message a couple of hours later.

674
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: He didn't respond that night, but I got a message

675
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: from him late the next morning. He said, Oh, Pie,

676
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: thanks for sending me that screenshot. I had no idea

677
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: that Crystal messaged you, and I want to apologize for

678
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: her behavior. She was completely out of line and sending

679
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: you that. I spoke with her yesterday after I saw

680
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: your message, and she got pretty defensive. She told me

681
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: that she saw that my mom still has pictures of

682
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: you in one of our photo albums, and when she

683
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: saw that, my mom shared that memory of us on vacation.

684
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: She got really insecure and took it out on you.

685
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: She has never come to me and talked about it,

686
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: but I told her that there is nothing to worry

687
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: about it and both you and I have moved on.

688
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: This upset her even more, and she accused me of

689
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: cheating what and said that she found a spicy sleep

690
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: tape of us on my laptop and threatened to show

691
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: it to my mom.

692
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: What.

693
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: Why are you trying to show to the mom?

694
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

695
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: Why are you showing it to the mom?

696
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

697
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: What if you showed her the box? She's like, I

698
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: miss her.

699
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh ah, that's just dop.

700
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: I miss her.

701
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is so wild. At this point,

702
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I just told her we're over. I think that you

703
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: should just block her on Facebook because you'll probably try

704
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: to take it out on you. You didn't do anything wrong.

705
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: Sorry for bringing you into this mess, lol, but thank

706
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: you for giving me the heads up. I dodged a

707
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: bullet there, so that escalateted quickly.

708
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: There's a little bit more to the story, but I

709
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: guess the situation handled itself. Yeah.

710
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: Good, honestly. Yeah, at first, I honestly was a little skeptical, like, oh,

711
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: maybe don't like tell to him because it might like

712
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: look a little weird or something like that, Like maybe

713
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: just say something to her just to like kind of

714
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: calm or down like that.

715
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: But it's like that's your situation. Yeah, well you don't

716
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: to be involved in any of that, right, You took

717
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: yourself out of the equation pretty much.

718
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like clearly it was the best way to do it.

719
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: And it is also probably nice too, because it's like

720
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: it's not like she's you know, exaggerating anything that Crystal

721
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: is saying. She's just saying like the exact thing. So

722
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: it's like, if it's really that bad to not show him,

723
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: that should at all.

724
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: The one thing would have been, like, why do you

725
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: still have a spicy tape of me?

726
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: Right?

727
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: We broke up, right, that would be a question for sure.

728
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: That's like the only thing, Like, Okay, thank you for

729
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: all honesty, sorry that you'd handled that, but yeah, like

730
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: did she find a spicy tape of us? Right?

731
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: Because but actually there was a little bit more to

732
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: the story. Okay, Okay, for the record, Ross and I

733
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: never made a spicy sleep te ah love that Any

734
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: NSFW ones that we did make were deleted immediately after watching,

735
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: so she's just cuckoo.

736
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Yes.

737
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: I called to confirm that and he assured me that

738
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: she didn't find anything and she was just using it

739
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: as ammunition to try to get him to admit that

740
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: he either won had an NSFW video with me, or

741
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: two was cheating on her with me. Not really much

742
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: to say other than that I've blogged her on all

743
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: social media and haven't heard anything since. I hope she

744
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have my phone number haha. As situations like these

745
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: make me happy that I've chosen to stay single for

746
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: a little while. Thanks for all your advice. Read it.

747
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: It really helped, and there are some comments. There are

748
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: some comments. Miss the Wire says good Gravy starts with

749
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: insecurity over a Facebook post and ends with lying about

750
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: a spicy sleep tape and threatening to send it to

751
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: someone's mother even if Ross was cheating. Why the heck

752
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: would you do that to someone's mom?

753
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, I have the blackmail up and said your

754
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: mother of you having a spicy sleep tape? What?

755
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Gosh Opie says, That's when I asked him when I

756
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: called him yesterday, what would she gain from doing that?

757
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: Even if it did exist? Plus, Ross's mother walked in

758
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: on us once. Yikes. I'm sure she doesn't need another

759
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: reminder of that unfortunate event. Deleted says Yay. I'm very

760
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: glad the Ross seems like a very good ex boyfriend.

761
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: You don't see that as often as you should, so

762
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: major props there. The only advice I have for you

763
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: is to be very careful with your social media accounts

764
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: right now. Hopefully Crystal doesn't know your phone number, but

765
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: someone who's unfortunately this insecure wouldn't be above making fake

766
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: profiles follow you or friend you, or having friends do it. Oh,

767
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: he responds, I did a privacy check on my Facebook

768
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: account yesterday. Crystal and I were not friends on Facebook,

769
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: so I ended up changing my settings to make it

770
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: a lot more difficult for people who are not Facebook

771
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: friends with me to search me or view my profile.

772
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Probably the same for bet missus. Grumpy Stripes says am

773
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: I the only one hoping that these two awesome, mature

774
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: people get back together, and Opie responds that can never happen.

775
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: He wants to get married and have children.

776
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: I do not.

777
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: That's a deal breaker. And a lot of relationships, including ours,

778
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: and no matter how much we get along, we can't

779
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: make that aspect to work for us. Bet are off

780
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: as friends for now and that's the end of that story.

781
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, people all to get back together. They have friends,

782
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: they can move on back for them. Yeah. I feel

783
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: like the one thing is Crystal the X now great.

784
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: I feel like she's thinking this is all literally.

785
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like she's gonna go into future relationships or talk

786
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: to friends and be like, oh my god, my ex

787
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: is ex like was crazy and like did all of

788
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: this to try to give me a stop. And it's like,

789
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: oh my god.

790
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: She's not even blaming the mom, blaming her ex boyfriend.

791
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: It's blaming Opie, which is for sure definitely happening. So

792
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: just be careful, Opie.

793
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: My mother in law hates my new friend. But I'm

794
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: planning another hangout.

795
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: Just hanging out behind her back. That's fine, you can

796
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: do that.

797
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: It's no biggie.

798
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: The title is a little misleading, but that's essentially what happened.

799
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm also not sure our ages matter. But I am

800
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: forty four female. My daughter six has a sweet friend,

801
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: a boy we will call Luke. Luke has two older siblings,

802
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: but they're not relevant to the story.

803
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: Really.

804
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: I also have two more kids, an eleven year old

805
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: son and a two year old son with down syndrome.

806
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: Who will call by the way. This comes from Educational

807
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: Reveal eight forty seven, and if you want to submit

808
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit.

809
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm Carly and I'm Keon and I'm Dakota. Hi, Dakota.

810
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Who it is? He's here? Ha and Opie says. We

811
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: had a play date a few weeks ago at our

812
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: home with just Luke and his mom. Katie unsure exactly

813
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: how old she is, but I know she's in her twenties. Well,

814
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: obviously JP couldn't just go play with the other kids.

815
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: He cannot walk, he cannot talk, so he was with

816
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: me and Katie in the living room while my two

817
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: older kids and Luke were playing. Katie and I were talking.

818
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: And while JP can't talk, he makes noises, grunts, et cetera.

819
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: He's just like me, for reals, just like Keon, fur

820
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: real that was me for a long time. I know,

821
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: I didn't talk until I was like four and a half.

822
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: Selective mutism, yeah, selective mutism.

823
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: Whenever he would do this, Katie would sort of make

824
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: up something he said and say it for him. Like.

825
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: For an example, I was talking about JP and said

826
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: he gets chatty in the middle of the nights, and

827
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: JP started grunting, and Katie looked at him and said, no,

828
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: don't worry, I don't believe her anyway, which I laughed about.

829
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: It was funny. My mother in law stop by to

830
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: grab something and stayed to chat for a bit. She

831
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: noticed that Katie interacted a lot with JP. She asked

832
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Katie who she knew that had Down syndrome. I guess,

833
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: assuming that she knew someone, and Katie told her that

834
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: she actually didn't know anyone asides from a little boy

835
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: she went to church with as a child. My mother

836
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: in law seemed put off by this and leaves. Eventually.

837
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: The next day she came back over and asked my

838
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: daughter if she had fun playing with her friend. My

839
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: daughter says, yes, she loves playing with Luke. My daughter

840
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: runs off to play, and my mother in law looks

841
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: at me and says, well, at least she got to

842
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: do it once, and you know, not have them over again.

843
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: I stared at her, wondering why, so I asked her

844
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: what she meant. She said, Katie was too obsessed with

845
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: talking to JP. For someone who had no experience with

846
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: Down syndrome children.

847
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: Shut up. Yeah, I'm I'm sorry. JP's actually comfortable with

848
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: somebody and you're upset that he enjoys being around that person.

849
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: And not for nothing, Like I'm sure that mom knows

850
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: best about her kid.

851
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, not mother in law like the OP.

852
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I'm sure OP knows best.

853
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah that. Yeah, I would be delighted if that was

854
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: a grandchild of mine or in law or what have you,

855
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: child in law of mine like yes, this, thank you

856
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: so much.

857
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure even like the slight gruntson noise too

858
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: in public, show that he's at least a little bit comfortable,

859
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: like I think OPI would definitely know if JP was

860
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: OP and JP if JP was uncomfortable.

861
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: I was thrown by this because to me it was refreshing.

863
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: Most people forget JP is there, pretend he isn't, or

864
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: focus on what's wrong with him. Katie treated him like

865
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: he was any other two year old, and so did

866
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: her son, although he was a bit more confused as

867
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: to why JP wasn't speaking, but he never said anything

868
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: about it, which leads me to believe Katie has made

869
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: sure to teach her kids, not to point out other kids' differences.

870
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: W Yeah, even better. This is like when kids are

871
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: like developing their brain and like what's going on? Yeah?

872
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: Good on.

873
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Hur My husband is away for work for a while

874
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: and my mother in law has been my support while

875
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: he's gone, and she essentially told me she's not willing

876
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: to keep helping if I have another playdate with Katie

877
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: and her kids, which is a problem because they are

878
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: supposed to come over again in a few days. They've

879
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: come here both times because it's easier for me and JP.

880
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: My mother in law thinks I'm exploiting my son to

881
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: make a friend. I don't think so. But I do

882
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: want to become friends with Katie, but I don't think

883
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: she was too interested in JP. We have a consensus

884
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: at the A.

885
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: Hole shocking, obviously, shocked, baffled.

886
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: And we have some comments from OPI. I truly don't

887
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: have any friends outside of my husband's family, not because

888
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: of control issues. My family lives in another state and

889
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: I can't see them much, and making friends is hard

890
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: when my time is taken up with my kids' activities

891
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: and JP's therapies, and I can't just take JP anywhere

892
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: wherever I want or whenever I want, it is hard.

893
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes it gets lonely, and adding on top of the

894
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: i'm sorries I get all the time, and the I

895
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: don't know how you do it and I couldn't handle that,

896
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: and my favorite one, that must be so hard for

897
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: your other kids to not have as much attention. Oh

898
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: my god, that leads to me feeling guilty for days afterwards.

899
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: It was nice to meet a mom who was willing

900
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: to come to our home for our comfort and also

901
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: didn't say all the things that make me feel like

902
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable spending more time with them. I just didn't

903
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: want to think I was exploiting JP just to make

904
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: friends with someone I enjoyed being around. JP doesn't act

905
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: fearful of her, and she's never said anything to suggest

906
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: to me that she resents him. But I think I

907
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: will ask my oldest son tomorrow if he's heard her

908
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: say anything or interact differently with JP when she's babysitting.

909
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: She also thinks it's weird for me to want to

910
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: be friends with a mom so much younger than me,

911
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: even though Katie's oldest is the same age as mine

912
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: and her youngest is the same as my daughter. The

913
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: only kids without a common age are JP and Katie's

914
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: middle child, and we have an update.

915
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: I think mother in law is just jelly that you

916
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 3: found a buddy in your time's going to go diverted

917
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: to Katie.

918
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: Right, Honestly, she's probably mother in law. I bet is

919
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: mad that, like, oh, if Katie comes to hang out,

920
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: she won't need my help exactly.

921
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: He's like, all right, well, then I guess I won't

922
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: be coming around, right, and like if you don't need

923
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: me as much as anymore.

924
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: In the same threat, she's already like self limiting. She's

925
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: afraid of being limited when she's doing it.

926
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: But you do want me to come around, right, mm?

927
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: Is the side I.

928
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: That's that's insane. Yeah, the fact that she's like, you

929
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 3: either have to pick me or your new friend that

930
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: you know you get along so well with.

931
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: Right when you don't have any friends. They're already like she.

932
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm your only friend.

933
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: She's a hater. But we have an update eleven months later,

934
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: So it's been a year. Luke and my daughter are

935
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: in the same class again this year and are thrilled

936
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: we did have the second and many other playdates. Katie

937
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: and Luke and also Katie's two other kiddos. All three

938
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: of Katie's kids are nothing but kind to JP, and

939
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: every one of them takes time out of whatever they're

940
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: doing to come hang out with JP every time. This

941
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: is Katie's raising great kids. I mean they're both raising

942
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: great kids.

943
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah they are. But Katie is like, are you I'll

944
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: go up here. I'm like, are you an angel?

945
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: Like? This is the insane, right, this is like exactly

946
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: what Opine needd To like have has trouble making friends

947
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: in a new neighborhood with all her kids.

948
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like mother in law it was

949
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: like a puzzle board or a put like you know,

950
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: and like mother in law is like just too big

951
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: or too small, and like like I'm trying to make

952
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: it fit. It's fitting right, like it looks perfect, Like no,

953
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: it's a little off. Katie comes in just right, just boom.

954
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: Her oldest son, specifically can get JP going really good.

955
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: He also he's thirteen, will carry JP around and push

956
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: him on the swings with my permission. Edit to add

957
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: it was with my permission at first. Now he just

958
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: takes his little buddy JP and heads right on out.

959
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: JP and Katie's oldest have this bond that I can't describe.

960
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: JP lights up when he sees his big buddy.

961
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: It's so sweet.

962
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Ah, so it's so cute.

963
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna make Carly cry.

964
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: I know. I love the cute ones. Guys.

965
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: When my mother in law found out I was having

966
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: the second play date, she was really mad, and she did,

967
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: in fact stop helping me out with the kids while

968
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: my husband was gone. My husband was mad about this,

969
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: her actions not mine good, and hasn't spoken to her since.

970
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: Ee.

971
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: She consistently has reached out to see if we need

972
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: help with the kids in any way. It brings me

973
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: great satisfaction to say that both mine and my husband's

974
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: response has been no, you don't need to help us.

975
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: We wanted because while I was so overworried about if

976
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: I was exploiting JP to make a friend, I felt

977
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: like I needed to tell Katie I didn't need her

978
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: help until I really did. And when I did, she

979
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: showed up and she showed out nice. And there hasn't

980
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: been a day since that. Katie and I don't talk

981
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: on the phone or text more than just oh, let's

982
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: hang out here and there at this time for the kids.

983
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: Katie is my friend good And not only is she

984
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: my friend, she loves my kiddos with her whole heart

985
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: and I love hers.

986
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: Guys, you're like aunties or cousins. But we're not really

987
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: blood related, but we're like cousins. This is so sweet

988
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: and wholesome.

989
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and before anyone, yes, I have kept Katie's kids

990
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: for her. Also, they are so well behaved and respectful.

991
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: It's such an easy yes. Thank you to everyone for

992
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: your advice and kind words on the original post. My

993
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: family might have lost my mother in law, but we

994
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: got a Katie.

995
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: Everyone deserves a Katie in their life and.

996
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: That's worth a whole lot.

997
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: Oh, this is a very wholesome you know post. That's great.

998
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I love the but we got ourselves

999
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: a Katie.

1000
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: Get yourself a KADIEE yourself a Katie. It's definitely mother

1001
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: in law. It's just jealous and upset that, like, you

1002
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: don't need a Katie.

1003
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: You have me right and they're not needing the Katie.

1004
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: And then well, yeah, you don't need a Katie. I'm

1005
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: gonna stop seeing you. Hey, I really want to see

1006
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: the kids.

1007
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: That sucks the fact that Katie's got them right, you.

1008
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: You dug the hole and now you get to lay

1009
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: in it.

1010
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 3: That's amazing. This is an amazing story, I think, though.

1011
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: I guess my one piece of mind is mother in

1012
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: law you again if she comes back and apologizes, because

1013
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: I feel like the kids want their grandma's or grandparents

1014
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: in their lives. Sure, as long as it's positive and

1015
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: not toxic. But also I think you and Katie deserve

1016
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: a vacation, like you have a girl's trip when.

1017
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: Your husband comes back.

1018
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's that's definitely something you

1019
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 3: guys can do, have your own little girl trip.

1020
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: But also like, ah, so sweet, it's great. No other comments,

1021
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: no comments, just Katie. We got some more comments by OPI.

1022
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: He shows up and JP just gets so excited, and

1023
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: then my child just gets carted around wherever we are

1024
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: for hours. Sometimes her son carried JP around the zoo

1025
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: for four hours one day and refuse to put him

1026
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: back in the stroller or let one of us hold

1027
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: him instead because the stroller can't get close enough like

1028
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: we can, and he can see better if I hold him.

1029
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: That's so sweet, that's so cute.

1030
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: He's definitely the sweetest and most empathetic. Thirteen year old

1031
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: I've ever met in my life, and you can tell

1032
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: it's not forced either. First son gets excited to see

1033
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: JP two. It's so sweet and I'm so glad that

1034
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: we got that. It makes me cry too if I

1035
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: think about it too hard, because I can't believe it

1036
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: just fell into our laps because my daughter made a

1037
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: friend at school. This is a response to something, Guys,

1038
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're responding to. But would it

1039
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 2: help you laugh instead if I told you that part

1040
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: of his reasoning I didn't include was that me and

1041
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: Katie are both way too old for to carry JP

1042
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: for that long. Okay, that's about.

1043
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: The zoo oh year old.

1044
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, for four hours.

1045
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, sorry, guys, you guys are are

1046
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: too old to be carrying. The child's being the ladies.

1047
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: I got this, ladies.

1048
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: He's being the sweetest and also slipping like that subtle

1049
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: thirteen year old.

1050
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: He's like all right, He's like all right, he's getting

1051
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: a little he's getting a little uh too. Uh.

1052
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm friends even and JP only.

1053
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: Dude, he's not even being like me and he's just

1054
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: trying to be considered. He's like, you're just too old like,

1055
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: don't worry, I can.

1056
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: Do it, but you're old and I'm not.

1057
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: Now, I like, listen, kid, I'll humble you.

1058
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the ages. I'm forty five, his mom

1059
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: is thirty.

1060
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: That would add them for that you want to go,

1061
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 3: but he's still just like you're old. Honestly, me today,

1062
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: with my back the way it is, I'd like, yeah,

1063
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: one v one me.

1064
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: He's a kid. You're right, you can keep carrying them.

1065
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: But listen, kid, final destination, no items three stocks.

1066
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: One of us was greatly offended by his statement, and

1067
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: it wasn't me. Hum at one. I'm still totally lost

1068
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: on what mother in law's problem was. We have a reply.

1069
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: I'm curious about this as well, and what mother in

1070
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: law's resume looks like when it comes to children with disabilities,

1071
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: since that's apparently crucial to even being in the presence

1072
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: of one. So far, my leading theory is that mother

1073
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: in law wanted Opie to have zero other support mother

1074
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: in law. Opie having other people she can call on

1075
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: means mother in law can't leverage her to get Opie

1076
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: to obey. Someone replies, I used to be a children's

1077
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: librarian and it's really really common for adults to say

1078
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: they don't see the point of talking to nonverbal children

1079
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: because the child can't talk back.

1080
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: That's so sad.

1081
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: That was me.

1082
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: Would people not talk to you because you want to talk?

1083
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure, I mean from what I couldn't recall,

1084
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: people like, especially kids want to talk to me.

1085
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that's surprising. So I had a neighbor who

1086
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: was selected me as a kid, and we would still

1087
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: talk to him, and he would just do what you

1088
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: did with like grunts and like pointing, and eventually though,

1089
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: like he would only talk to us kids, and he

1090
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: still want to talk to adults, so he'd like come

1091
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: up and like whisper.

1092
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: And like from what I recall, like I didn't really

1093
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 3: talk to many people. This guy's king Bojie. He doesn't

1094
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: even know it.

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00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: It's so dehumanizing and I cringe every time I hear

1096
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: someone say it. I'm wondering if mother in law is

1097
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: one of those people. And when she saw Katie talking

1098
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: to JP like he was just any other kid, even

1099
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: though he couldn't talk back to her, it made mother

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00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: in law feel some kind of way about it. Comment

1101
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: to always deeply confused by the people who don't understand

1102
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: that the more people who love your kid, the better

1103
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: little buddy it needs. These people grandma can get stuff.

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00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: Hey, it's sam og Hos. We're gonet back to these

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Speaker 3: Minutes of ads from our sponsors to help support the show.

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Speaker 3: My mother in law claimed she named my daughter, so

1109
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: I corrected.

1110
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: Her, should name her after your mother in law.

1111
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: Don't do that.

1112
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: I've been married to my husband for almost two years

1113
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: and our daughter is eleven months old. When we found

1114
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: out we were having a girl, one of the names

1115
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: that was immediately top contender was the name of a

1116
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: character I really like in a very popular book slash

1117
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: movie franchise. Is it Rowena?

1118
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: Classic Nurse.

1119
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: Rowena is a very like I.

1120
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: Have never heard someone Rowena.

1121
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: I heard Luna.

1122
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 3: Luna is a good one too. I want to find out.

1123
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: I want to find I've met like four arenas. Yeah,

1124
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: and you know what their name.

1125
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: From Harry Potter.

1126
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: Yes, my husband is a huge fan of the franchise

1127
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 3: two and with time that name just became the only

1128
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: one that I wanted, and we landed on it and

1129
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: then told our parents about it. By the way, this

1130
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: comes from user far up in sixty twenty three, and

1131
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: you can submit your own stories to the r slash

1132
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: Okay Storytime supparate it. I'm ke On, I'm Carly, and

1133
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: I'm Dakota, so Opie says. I remember my mother in

1134
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: law questioning whether phonetically there would be an alternative spelling

1135
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: that could cause confusion, and I had said no, it

1136
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't and had explained to her the subtle difference in pronunciation,

1137
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: and it was a whole conversation I'd had with her.

1138
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: Last weekend, we were at my in law's place for dinner.

1139
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: My brother in law and sister in law were there too,

1140
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: so we were watching my daughter cruising along the room

1141
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 3: using the couches of support, looking at us to see

1142
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: if we were looking, and then laughing. My brother in

1143
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: law's wife had remarked how radiant she looked and how

1144
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 3: she'd really taken to her name literally. My sister law

1145
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: then said that it was a really good choice by

1146
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: my mother in law. What does that mean?

1147
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Interesting?

1148
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: I was confused. I asked what she's talking about, and

1149
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: my sister in law said that my mother in law

1150
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: had been the one to recommend the name. Right.

1151
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: I want to know the name so bad because if

1152
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: it really is from Op's like favorite franchise, that's so

1153
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: easily disproved. You just go, does mother in law know

1154
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: anything else about where the name's from? Like?

1155
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: Why did you pick it? Oh? I just love that name.

1156
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: My mother in law then said yeah, that she said

1157
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: it's a good name. I was literally stunned for a second,

1158
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: and then made it clear that I'd come up with

1159
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: the name, how i'd known of it, and that my

1160
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: husband also knew of that character, and that we were

1161
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: passed away set on that name and there were no

1162
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: recommendations to be had. I asked my husband to corroborate

1163
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: the story, which he did uncomfortably. My mother in law

1164
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: said names are a collective family effort, and everyone pitched in.

1165
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 3: But I still this name was one that was very

1166
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: dear to me, and it was one i'd come up with.

1167
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: Maybe I shouldn't have pushed on that a second time.

1168
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: That's why I'm here. And we came home and we

1169
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: were in bed. My husband had been getting text from

1170
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: his mom and sister. He said I was right in

1171
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: my account of what had happened, but he also told

1172
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: me I'd been tactless. That we know it was my name,

1173
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: and our daughter has a beautiful name that suits her.

1174
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: Why make it into something that causes bitterness? Right?

1175
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: And why are we so pressed about who came up

1176
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: with What does it matter who came up with the name?

1177
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: Just think like, yeah, I think it's a great name, Op, congrats,

1178
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: I didn't help with it. Oh yeah, mother in law

1179
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: law needs to like dig a Joe pill nose.

1180
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: She wants to take accountability, like this is my this

1181
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: is my child. So today he had a phone call

1182
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: with his mom, just a regular one. I asked if

1183
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: she was still pissed. You said she was. He said

1184
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 3: that he understood why I did it, but it wasn't

1185
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: the time and place. I don't agree with this.

1186
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: No, it's not mother in law's time and place.

1187
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't agree with this, Like.

1188
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: Huh, why are we supporting her?

1189
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: Was I the a hole? And we have a small update?

1190
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: Before the small update? What do you know? I don't

1191
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: even have to ask.

1192
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I said what I need to say, Like,

1193
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't know why mother in law needs to be

1194
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 2: a collaborator with that name so bad? And I don't

1195
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: think OP should have to let that go. That's it's

1196
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: Opie and her husband's like fandom or love or something.

1197
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably like I don't see what the husband's like.

1198
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: I get it, like, I guess it's not the time

1199
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: and place, like maybe it's for you. I would have

1200
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: been like, what do you mean that's we came up

1201
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: with that name? Why is she taking credit for it?

1202
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: Especially if it's something that they like mutually love together

1203
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: and it's a point of like bonding over when they met,

1204
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 2: maybe like.

1205
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: No, yeah I would. I would. I was like, that's

1206
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: that's not the case. In point, I would have been like,

1207
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: that's not right. Let's let's clear that up. We have

1208
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: a small update. So my husband came by this on

1209
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: his Reddit feed fml. He wants to let us all

1210
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: know he never said I was an a hole relevant comments.

1211
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: He said that he understood why I did it, but

1212
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: it wasn't the time and place. Did he happen to

1213
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 3: share with you when would have been a better time

1214
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 3: to correct your mother in law's revisionist history, and why

1215
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 3: he didn't have a word with her and correct her himself,

1216
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: big huge, not the ahole hope, He replies, No, he

1217
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: didn't say it, but he said it shouldn't have been

1218
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: clarified in front of an audience, So I'm assuming he

1219
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: meant when it was just me with mother in law,

1220
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 3: And if she said this when we've had moments where

1221
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: it's just the two of us, I would have corrected her.

1222
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: Then I just didn't enjoy saying it in front of others.

1223
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: It's just that's when it was brought up. Another comment says,

1224
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: does your husband ever stand up to his mother, call

1225
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: her out when she lies or if she says slash

1226
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: does something unreasonable or trying to determine if this is

1227
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: a one off event or if you have more than

1228
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: one problem on your hands. Ope, he replies, Before we

1229
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: got married, he'd said she can be a bit much,

1230
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: and just to sort of not mind her too much,

1231
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: which is why we've been back on thus far. But

1232
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: just this was close to my heart, and in the

1233
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: moment I found I had to claim it. Oh, commenter says, mild,

1234
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: you're the a whole count yourself lucky that mother in

1235
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: law isn't like many on here who hates her grandchild's name,

1236
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of negativity surrounding that. So what

1237
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: if she's taking a little ownership of the name at

1238
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: this late date, It just shows that she loves everything

1239
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 3: about your daughter. You and your husband know the true

1240
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 3: genesis of the name, and that's all that really matters.

1241
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: And that comment is downvote. That's my husband's pov essentially

1242
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: that it was out of love and now there's bitterness,

1243
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 3: which I suppose there is, And if I really was

1244
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: an a whole thing to do, I'm open to apologizing

1245
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: for doing it with others around. I feel like you

1246
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: should have just have like a one a one on

1247
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: one meeting with her or with you and your husband

1248
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 3: be like, so, what was that about?

1249
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: Right, let's get to the bottom.

1250
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: We have another comment. Is this really a hill you

1251
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: want to pass away on? Who cares about how the

1252
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 3: name came about? It's your daughter's name now and everyone

1253
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: is happy with it. You are making this into a

1254
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: much bigger thing than it needs to be. You are

1255
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: the a hole does down to comment as well.

1256
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Yeah, don't keep dragging it out, like

1257
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: have that conversation now, nip it in the bud so

1258
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: that you can just like move on from it. But

1259
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't think you're the a hole for calling her out,

1260
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: But have the conversation.

1261
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: She's pissed that she got called out on a stupid lie.

1262
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: Easy solution to that is she shouldn't have lied. Not

1263
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: the ahole up, He says, thank you. And while I

1264
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 3: didn't bring it up at the time because I didn't

1265
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: recall in the moment, I literally have text of me

1266
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: sending her a link about how that name is in

1267
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: the top twenty and that it's not a totally out

1268
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: there name. Verdict not the a hole and we have

1269
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: an update. We're going straight into the update. This was

1270
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: four days later. Hi, it thanks a lot for all

1271
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: the comments and verdicts in my first post. Are more

1272
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 3: than I had anticipated, enough that my husband came across

1273
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: it too. First, I do want to clarify that my

1274
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: husband never said I was an a hole. He said

1275
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: he agreed with the facts that our daughter's name had

1276
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with mother in law, just the

1277
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: timing of it. But like a lot of the comments

1278
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: had said, perhaps setting the record clear in the moment

1279
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: had been the right thing to do. My mother in

1280
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: law had been bringing up the encounter to him in

1281
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: passing repeatedly since then, and she was also emphasizing the way,

1282
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: in place and time that I corrected her. She was

1283
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: not claiming to have recommended the name any longer. Yesterday,

1284
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 3: because my husband was having to deal with the bitterness

1285
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: of the situation, I had to call with my mother

1286
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: in law.

1287
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: Hey.

1288
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: She said she was in shock at the way I

1289
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: had gone about it, that it's not what she expected

1290
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: of me, how fond she was of my daughter, and

1291
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: that the decisions like these are family decisions in spirit,

1292
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: doesn't matter the origin of the thought.

1293
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: No, at this time, the family doesn't even know the

1294
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: name until the kid comes out.

1295
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: Like it's like in spirit, we were there. It's like

1296
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: I'm part of the group project too.

1297
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you had him in your head. I

1298
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: knew the name.

1299
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I like, Oh, like, you guys do this

1300
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: you you and your husband, OPI did this group project.

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00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: You made a kid. I was part of the process.

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00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: Put my name on the top, right, give me full

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00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: credit A plus insane, I said, I understand and deeply

1304
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 3: regretted the unpleasantness, but it was a name close to

1305
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: my heart since I was young and had read the books.

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00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: So that's why this was different to me than any

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: other decision, like the choice of stroller, for instance. My

1308
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: mother in law brought up that I had sent her

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00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: a link of how it was a very popular name

1310
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: back when I had told her about it the first time.

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00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: I said that, yes, but I'd done that after the fact,

1312
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 3: just to show it wasn't a completely out there name

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: and that I didn't even know what the result of

1314
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: the popularity of the name would be when I searched

1315
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: for it. But this name was from my heart. She

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00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: said she understands, and again reiterated how much she loves

1317
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: our daughter and thanked her and told her how much

1318
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: I appreciated it. I think I've handled the situation well.

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00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: My husband too, seems content after my call A sincere

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00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: thank you everyone who took the time out for my issue. Uh,

1321
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: how do we feel? What do we think?

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Speaker 2: I'm reading what Kat said here. If it doesn't matter,

1323
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: then why did she claim that?

1324
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel like she got caught. But she's like

1325
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 3: the love for your daughter. It's the love of your daughter.

1326
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: I love your daughter so much. And I'm like, you're

1327
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 3: you're going back to that excuse, But why did you

1328
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: claim it? I love your daughter, your daughter so much?

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00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: Then drop it.

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00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: Then, Like why are you telling people you said you that,

1331
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 3: like that's your name, like you you gave her that name. Ohp,

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00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: I love your daughter.

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Speaker 2: And the likelink ones talking about how popular the name was. Yeah,

1334
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: because I had picked the name out and was telling

1335
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: you about it.

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was.

1337
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: They weren't still deciding.

1338
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: Then, Yeah, it would tick me off. But at this

1339
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: point I'm like, all right, what's done is done right,

1340
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: everyone's happy.

1341
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: Like the one comment said, it's not the hill to

1342
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: die on for that, but it's annoying.

1343
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: It's very annoying. And like if she continues to be

1344
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: like I, and if she like, say, when the daughter

1345
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 3: gets older, he's like I named you that, yeah I would,

1346
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: I would shut that down.

1347
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1348
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: But again, if that's where it is and this lays

1349
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: down and there's no more, it's not brought up anymore, Yeah,

1350
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm cool with it also too.

1351
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you go right back to that kid, you'd be like, no,

1352
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: I named you after this book? I love read it

1353
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: with me. Is that's when the kid gets to start?

1354
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the family decides together in spirit? Yeah, you guys

1355
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: weren't there.

1356
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if what she wants to say is that she

1357
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: decided the name in spirit whatever you were you were there, sure, yeah,

1358
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: but you did had no contribution.

1359
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: Otherwise, let's go ahead and finish up this story. She

1360
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: was just like in a family, when decisions are made,

1361
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: we all own it, regardless of who originally came up

1362
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: with it. She was making claims are not the sign

1363
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: of a loving family. And again that's all well and

1364
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: good for something, sure, but some stuff is just deeply

1365
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: personal back checking a pushy mother in law in real

1366
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 3: time for the win. She is a right lively one,

1367
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: isn't she. By the way, Opie, did anyone in mother

1368
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: in law's family help name your significant other or your

1369
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: sister in law? Upie replies, Hmmm, I never asked that.

1370
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: I can ask my husband, and there is an edit.

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00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: My husband can't remember, but he said his grandmother, my

1372
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: mother in law's mom, makes an appearance in the story

1373
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: about his name. He has no clue about the story

1374
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: or if his sister or brother's name. Another comment says,

1375
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: but didn't you have to convince her of the name

1376
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: to then go on and say she recommended it? Isn't

1377
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 3: just making a decision as a family, even in spirit.

1378
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: That's just a straight up fabrication. She can go around

1379
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: telling people she approved the name if she wants, but

1380
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: even that would rankle me because decisions like a child's

1381
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: name are not family decisions in spirit to begin with,

1382
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: They're the parent's decision. I'm glad you're okay with how

1383
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 3: things panned out, and I help. This is a one off,

1384
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: but I'd be on the watch for my in law

1385
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: in case of further revisionism shrieks, and in case she

1386
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: decides other decisions that should be mine and my partners

1387
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: suddenly become a family decision in spirit or otherwise. Do

1388
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 3: not let her wiggle her way into having veto power

1389
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: over your decisions as a couple or as parents, hope.

1390
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: He responds, Yep, I made it clear to my husband

1391
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: that when it comes to our daughter, only him and

1392
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: I make decisions. Your mother in law is an a

1393
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: hole for trying to take credit, then gaslighting you into

1394
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 3: an apology, and making you think naming a child is

1395
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: a group effort in spirit when there was, in reality

1396
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: no group. Your husband is an ahole for saying you

1397
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: were in the wrong, for putting his mother in her place,

1398
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: for lying then not telling his mother to touch grass

1399
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 3: when she witched about it. You are an ahole to

1400
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: yourself for accepting this and apologizing. You are an ahle

1401
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: to your daughter if you allow her to be raised

1402
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: thinking this crap is healthy or acceptable. All right, Tom,

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: I don't.

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: Think she's doing that.

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01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: Last one.

1406
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: Let's a little aggressive, true, but a little aggressive. I

1407
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: think it's just like one of those things like all right,

1408
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: let's clear that up. Yeah, it's what I'm like, all right, whatever,

1409
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 3: If you keep doing it, then I'm gonna really press

1410
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 3: on it and get really upset. And there's a top comment.

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: She was in shock at the way I had gone

1412
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: about it. That's not what she expected of She's chastising

1413
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 3: you because you didn't just swallow your food and let

1414
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 3: her lie and boast and exaggerate her own importance as

1415
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 3: she fully expected you too. So yeah,