1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast contains no Breaking Badge spoilers. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: a room full of heroes, Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal, and 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. What up? Boys? Wait again? You went in 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: the other order? Well this time I did because you 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: guys said it wouldn't be a big deal. But now 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I did it, and it feels weird, doesn't It feels 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: to me? It feels weird because I got name last. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: But that's alwaysn't even paying attention. Hey, the intro there 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: will be no Breaking Bad spoilers, but I will say 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: one thing. Uh, the Around the League end around my 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: weekly I guess you can almost call it a column 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: on NFL dot com has Breaking Bad star Matt Jones, 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: who plays Badger. He's delivering a guest rent that will 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: be up today Friday. That is a shameless plug. That's 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: pretty sweet. It's cool you did that, and I was thinking, 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: everyone's so excited about it. But this group of individuals 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: might be the least out of touch group with pop 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: culture and news in the world because only one of 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: us watches Breaking Bad. Is that? Well? I mean, let's 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: be honest. Yes, I watched Breaking Bad. I'm the only one. 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm also the only one that knew about the Kenyan 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: terrorist attacks. We're discussing before the podcast. No one had 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: any idea that even happened. Don't get all dark with us, 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: like I said, they don't. They don't break into game 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: rewind to announce the Kenyan terrorist attacks. I don't have 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: television that reminds me of Like when I think it 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: was the Dolphins. Some offensive coordinator was mired in a 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: terrible season and someone asked if he had heard of 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: Suck for Luck. This was two years ago, and it 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: was like late November. He's like no, It's like he's 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: been in a cave for four months and there's no 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: society leaking. And that's where we are, the Around the 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: League podcast, where society never leaks in. Um, all right, 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: big show. Today, we're gonna talk week four. We are 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: gonna talk Thursday night football. We're gonna have a special 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: guest from this hemisphere. That's all I can give you 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: at this time. Uh but yeah, let's start last night 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night at an electric Edward Jones Dome and St. 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Louis my hero pick went down in flames as the 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: forty Niners pretty much wiped out the Rams. Greg Rosenthal, 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about that game? I think it 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: said more about the Rams than it did about the 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: forty Niners. I mean, we'll see how the forty Niners 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: look once they play a good team coming up, but 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: this is two straight weeks where the Rams offense looked 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: like the absolute worst group in the league. And really 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: as a team, there's not any team playing any worse 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: than the Rams right now than the Jaguars or the Giants. 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: And I thought back to that Thursday night game last 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: year when the Rams went to three and two they 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: beat the undefeated Cardinals, and I thought, oh, the Rams 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: are relevant again under Jeff Fisher. But there hasn't been 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: much progress from that point to this point. It was 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: a depressing football game to watch from that like, the 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Niners went in as they had to do when they 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: took care of business the Rams. And I had watched 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: the the Rams Dallas game just before this one started 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: and was really unimpressed with their offense and thought, listen, 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: it was so overtly unimpressive that they were going to 62 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: spend the week on primetime game coming up, they're gonna 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: change things up. We're gonna see something different. But they 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: put out to me what looked like almost a carbon 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: copy game plan in terms of its inability to get 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: the ball downfield. And it starts with Sam Bradford. To me, 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: he's clearly regressed from last year. Greg and I were 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: talking about this. Possibly the best game of his career 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: was against the same forty Niners team last year, except 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: they didn't have Alden Smith and Patrick Willis out of 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: the lineup, and he played well in that game. Now 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: he can't even move the ball. He isn't throwing beyond 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: the sticks at all. At the first sign of pressure, 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: he's he's hitting his hot read. He's just not to me, 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: what's the difference between Sam Bradford and Josh Freeman. It's 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: hard to find. And they said lot of throws. The 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: throws that are there, people blame. I hate it when 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: people blame it on the coaching and the receivers. And 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: granted we've killed Brian Schottenheimer and he is a big 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: factor here, but people will say it right after a 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: play where Sam Bradford missed a wide open receiver that 82 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: happened three or four times that has nothing to do 83 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: with how good the players are or the coaches. Well, 84 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: don't forget. Yeah, I thought a sign of doom was 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: in the first quarter of Bradford missed a wide open 86 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it was it given was Pettis wide 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: open touchdown that they settled for a field goal, and 88 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: you know that was just the start of a really 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: bad night for him. I thought, West, you put it well, 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: and you're what we learned, which I thought was excellent 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: where you said that you called it a bonanza of 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: an aptitude by Bradford. And and I will say this also, Greg, 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: you had said the you know, there were a lot 94 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: of defenders of Bradford. I was shocked. I tweeted late 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: in the game that you know, this reminds us that 96 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: the Rams could have and should have drafted r G three. 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: And I got flamed, and I was stunned by how 98 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: many people came to Bradford's defense. I'm assuming a lot 99 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: of Rams fans saying, you know, r G three would 100 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: be the same way if he had no line and 101 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: no running game and no receivers. And first of all, 102 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't agree with some of those assessments, but especially 103 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't know where Bradford got all this rope. What 104 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: has he done in his career? No, no quarterback in 105 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: the league has more excuses made for him than Sam Bradford. Uh. 106 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, the offensive line for years was the excuse, 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the lack of playmakers. Then they go out and get 108 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Jared Cook and Tavon Austin, Chris Gibbons is a is 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: a good playmaker, They have weapons. The offensive line isn't 110 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: that bad. And you know, it's just one mistake after another, 111 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: everybody just for years. It's not Sam Bradford's fault. I 112 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: think he had such a good first impression in terms 113 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: of conventional wisdom in his rookie year because they really 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: improved from the season before. But he wasn't that great 115 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: his rookie year either, and it kind of got overrated 116 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: and people just thought Bradford is a good quarterback. This 117 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: was not on the Rams defense. The Rams defense held 118 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: the forty Niners to eleven drives of twelve yard or less. 119 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: There were plenty of chances for the Rams offense to 120 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: get back into this game. There's one thing about Bradford, 121 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and West mentioned it. It's and I even watched Geno 122 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: Smith yesterday on a couple of passes where he patiently 123 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: waited for a receiver to make his completest route down field, 124 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: and he got the ball to him in between three 125 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: or four defenders. And with Bradford, it's yes, the ball 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: is coming out quick, but it's coming out to the 127 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: shallowest receiver, the first guy he sees open, and it's 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: not even giving guys down field a chance to make 129 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: a play. And I don't know if that's the scheme 130 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: or what it is, but it's really disturbing to see. 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: That's why we have now created, in addition to the 132 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: gabber zone, we have something called a D after Dalton. 133 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: Would you rank this quarterback after Dalton? That means basically, 134 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: this quarterback is a problem, not a solution. And and 135 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: and Bradford to you is is dam Bradford as of 136 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: last night is a D after Dalton. It's fair that hurts. 137 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: And one thing I wanted to say that by the 138 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: way to break Bradford a nice time. Um. One thing 139 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to say. I remember listening to Less Sneed 140 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: the GM of the Rams. He was on the eis 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: And podcast. This was probably in July or August. I 142 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: was listening to it for a post, and I remember 143 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: thinking to myself that less Needs seemed very pleased with himself. 144 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: He seemed almost a little too proud about what he 145 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: had been able to pull off with all these draft picks. 146 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: And you know, the r G three trade was a 147 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: home run for the team. And they stocked themselves up, 148 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: and they have these talented running backs and they got 149 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: Jake Long. And I'm not so sure less Sneed is 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: as big a genius as he seemed to believe himself 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: to be in that interview that I remember, Uh, this 152 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: team seems to have some real holes. That running game 153 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: is atrocious. They need a real running back. Uh. And 154 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: I I just think, you know, this could be I 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: think you said it, Greg, one of the worst teams 156 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: in the league this year. If I was that handsome, 157 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I would be pretty's very handsome. They showed him, they 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: showed him in his box and he was all fired up. 159 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I was like, well, you still got your looks, buddy. Well, 160 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: my wife asked who it was. That's before the game. 161 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: You know. Ian Rappaport and Mike Silver had some great 162 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: quotes from the Rams, their team president, who said, if 163 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford want to do a contract extension right now, 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 1: we'd sign up for it. He is our guy, there's 165 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: no question, and that's great. It's good information to have from, 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, our network. But my thought to that was 167 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: that's easy for them to say because they know it's 168 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: not really something they have to deal with now. And 169 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: if Sam Bradford hasn't improved by let's say the end 170 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: of next season, that's a that's a lifetime in the NFL. 171 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: There's no way they're giving him a big contract extending. 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: You have to play better at some point. And one 173 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: more point I wanted to make before we should maybe 174 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: talk about the Niners a little bit before moving on. 175 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: But you talked about it Mark on Wednesday, Tavon Austin, 176 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: When is this guy gonna be able to make an impact? 177 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: And we saw it yesterday. They don't know how to 178 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: use him and it was funny and he seems to 179 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: be maybe a little inside his head to Mike. Mike 180 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Mayock referred to it when he kind of let a 181 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: punt bounce. The just that doesn't seem to be something 182 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: that's working right now now, whether that's a long term 183 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: issue or just something that needs to be worked out 184 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: in the short term. I don't know, but he is 185 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: not a difference on that offense right now. I think 186 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: it's it's no different than the game before. They they 187 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: have not found a way. And maybe it's part Austin, 188 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: part Bradford, but Schotenheimer, Schottenheimer, whatever. The scheme is not 189 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: getting him open downfield. He's not a guy that's gonna 190 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: break tackles when he's got two or three guys on him. 191 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: They've got to get him in a position to outrun, 192 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: out choot guys. And in the in the routes he's 193 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: running into like quick sideline routes. That's on the coaching 194 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: staff to put him in space because he's not gonna 195 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: do anything in traffic. Um. One last point on the rams, 196 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: because I don't really have anything to talk about. A 197 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: forty nine is nothing changed from last week to this week. 198 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna be labor this point a little bit. 199 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: The r G three passing him up this this is 200 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: a franchise changing move. If you get this wrong, it's 201 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: going to end up costing you your job. How could you, 202 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean to me at the time, this isn't even hindsight. 203 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: At the time, I thought Why is this not more 204 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: of a controversy that you just said, Sam Bradford has 205 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: the potential to be the best quarterback in the NFL. 206 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: That was their rationale, and he had shown no evidence 207 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: that he could do that, and they passed up a 208 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: guy like r G three, who has a chance not 209 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: only to be a great quarterback, but you saw what 210 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: he did with the Redskins. He revitalized the whole Tony 211 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Cornheuser called it the era of unbridled optimism. That's what 212 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: he could have brought to the Rams, who haven't had 213 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: that since the Greatest Show on Turf Days. Wouldn't it 214 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: be funny if the Redskins and the Rams both have 215 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: top five picks this year because their records are so bad, 216 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: and the Rams take a quarterback two years later. Yeah, 217 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: well maybe that could save their job. Dude. Okay, So 218 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: that was Thursday night. Let's now move forward Sunday, Week four. 219 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: Week four, So what we'll do is we've been doing 220 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: every week. We'll start by picking out the four games 221 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: that intrigue us most, and we'll start with Mark Sessler, 222 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: who chose the Dallas Cowboys heading to San Diego to 223 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: play the Chargers. Well, I'm not sure it's the headline 224 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: game of the week. In fact, I'm sure that it's not, 225 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: and I actually I struggle to I'm not I'm not 226 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: a guy that loves to watch the Cowboys. Not. I 227 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: think Dan, you seem to gravitate towards the Dallas a 228 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: little bit more than their entertaining television. Yeah. I don't 229 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: find that to be the case often, but um, I 230 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: watched them closely this week, and I really feel that 231 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: last week they did a great job. Their offensive line 232 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: finally seems to have jailed to some degree, and there's 233 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: still we don't even know Brian Waters would be. He'd 234 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: just be icing on the cake. If he can still play, 235 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: We'll see. It's an interesting magic of San Dieagle's defense 236 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: has not been extremely impressive from what I've seen, and 237 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: on offense for San Diego, it looks like King Dunlap 238 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: is not gonna play DeMarcus where is looking fantastic out 239 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: of the gate. He looks completely revived in this defense, which, frankly, 240 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Dallas is defense. I'm not trying to shower praise on them, 241 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: but their defense is better than advertised. I don't love 242 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: this matchup for the Chargers. I think the Dallas um 243 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: I have a feeling they might wind up eight and 244 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: eight and win the NFC East with that record. But 245 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: they have a chance right here to separate themselves from 246 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: what is the rest of a very bad division if 247 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: they can take care of business. And if you're if 248 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: you're a Philip Rivers bandwagon guy now and I know 249 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Mark greg Is because he has a number two is 250 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: his quarterbacks in the NFL right now, number three, you 251 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: gotta win this game to really cement yourself as a 252 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: guy that's truly back. You're at home against the Dallas 253 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: team that's good but not great. Play another good game, 254 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: Finish the game, get back to two and two, and 255 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: then maybe these people can start getting in on the Chargers. 256 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think the Cowboys. We need to 257 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: give them a little respect and not put them in 258 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: with the other three in the NFC East. I think 259 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: they're clearly the best the best team in that group, 260 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: and I think they've played well in every game so far. 261 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, I hope it's not the case, but it 262 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: might be a historical precedent thing that made me take 263 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: the Chargers. And this is actually a hero pick for me. 264 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: If they win again. I had a hero pick with 265 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: the Charges last week, didn't work out too well. Went 266 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: back to the well. And the reason is because a 267 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: lot of times after the Cowboys win a big game 268 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: like that, in the minute you're kind of excited about them, 269 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: that's when that's when they lose. And I think this 270 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: is an even matchup. I think the Chargers offense has 271 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: been really good this year. I think the Cowboys defense 272 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: has been really good. George Selvey and DeMarcus Ware have 273 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: more pressures combined than any combination in the league. Selvey 274 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: has really been good for them. And Jason Hatcher's playing 275 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: well too. Jason Hatcher's playing like a pro bowler. I 276 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: mean he he should be recognized. Uh, But I think 277 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: the Charges have played well three straight weeks. I think, 278 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Actually it sounds weird, but these are two of the 279 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: most consistent teams in the NFL in terms of They've 280 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: been about the same team each and every week. The 281 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Chargers have been very in balance where the offense is 282 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: playing well, defense not so much. West The game lighting 283 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: up your Christmas tree this week is Philadelphia heading to 284 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Denver to play the Broncos. Yeah, this looks like a shootout. 285 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how. We talked about this on the 286 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: way up to Studio sixty six. The Broncos are just 287 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: They're rolling over teams like a juggernaut, and they haven't 288 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: had a complete game yet. I don't know how the 289 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: Eagles secondary, which is just the bottom of the barrel, 290 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: is going to stop Peyton Manning's attack. I see this 291 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: whether it's in a parking lot or a football field, 292 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: I see it as a Broncos blowout. I do as well, 293 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: and it's just because it's hard to envision the Broncos 294 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: being held to below thirty points, if not forty. A 295 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: question for you, though, Let's say Philly goes in and 296 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: gets waxed. Is the honeymoon completely over in Philadelphia for 297 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly if that happens. I don't think so. I 298 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: don't think when you get waxed by the Broncos you 299 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: can take anything out of it. I think the Broncos 300 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: are that good. And one point I forgot to mention 301 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia strength right now is Lashawn McCoy. The Broncos run 302 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: defense is giving up less than two yards per carry, 303 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: so that's gonna be a good matchup to watch. And 304 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: there's there's something special going on in Denver right now, 305 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: watching that game with West on Monday night, Manning is 306 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: completely unconscious as a quarterback right now. I mean, I 307 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: know you talk about the best quarterback season you ever, 308 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: so I think Tom Brady in two thousand seven to 309 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: me is the standard bearer. So you can't forget that, 310 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: even though it's a little bit in the rearview mirror. 311 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: But Manning has a chance to blow away everyone if 312 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: he keeps this pace up, and I don't see why 313 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: he wouldn't, to be honest with you, And the schedule 314 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: is very favorable, including this game. I could see this 315 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: game setting an NFL record for plays in the game. 316 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: The Eagles are second in the league in in pace 317 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: and that's plays you know, per type of possession. That 318 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Broncos are six. The Broncos haven't put together a complete game, 319 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: so I could see the Eagles putting up thirty five 320 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: points in the second half frantically trying to come back 321 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: in this game being fifty. When I when I did 322 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: Fantasy with Chris over at at Rhodo World, I used 323 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: to call it everybody in the pool game, and that 324 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: means if if you have anyone on either of these 325 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: two teams. Everybody in the pool, I think this is 326 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: one of those games. Even Riley Cooper put them in. 327 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if we to hang out with Riley Cooper. 328 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Um anybody? Did anybody pick the Eagles by the way, No, okay, 329 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think so. Lamb to the slaughter, Yeah, exactly. Alright, 330 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: we move along to Greg who chose the Saints and 331 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Dolphins on Monday night. That is a good game. It is. 332 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: And one thing I'm gonna be looking at is that 333 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Jordan's versus Jordan's matchup. Dion Jordan's last week very quietly 334 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: came in partly because of injuries to Cameron Wake or 335 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: just maybe they wanted to get him more work they're 336 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: trailing in the game, was very effective as a pass rusher. 337 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan's, as west Ling wrote about this week, thought 338 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: it was a great piece about how well Cameron Jordan 339 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: is playing has been a huge difference maker. And both 340 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: of these offensive lines are struggling. Miami. It's kind of gotten, 341 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, swept under the rug because they're undefeated. They 342 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: are not protecting Ryan Tannehill well at all. And Drew Brees, 343 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: I would say, is probably having the worst pass protection 344 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: he's had that I can remember in New Orleans, so 345 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: I think this could be a big game for the 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: pass rushers. I have a hard time seeing Miami going 347 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: into New Orleans and winning that game because they're so 348 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: tough to beat there. But this is a fun Monday 349 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: night game. We have not had many good primetime games 350 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: this year, and I don't see any reason why this 351 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a close one. The Dolphins are much stronger 352 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: team than last year, but they're not three and oh good. 353 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: They've they've stolen the Colt luck from last year. They've 354 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: just had so many things fall their way. I don't 355 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: know how they go into New Orleans and win. Are 356 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: the Saints three no good? Though? I mean they had 357 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: to last second. I am done doubting the Saints. How 358 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: about if Ryan Tannehill, whether or not they are a 359 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: three and oh team, in the course of three weeks, 360 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: has a chance to take care of Andrew Luck in 361 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: a game that after watching the Cults do what they 362 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: did to the forty niners, that becomes more impressive and now, 363 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure it's gonna happen, but a chance 364 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: to knock off Drew Brees is that when Tannehill, who 365 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: I still think it's on the fringe of not really 366 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: being paid attention to, becomes one of those guys that 367 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: you know, my mom knows who he is. This is it, 368 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: This is his chance. You know, in his nationally televised 369 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: games last year, he already knows who he is. Boom, gotcha. 370 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: And your wife likes les? Need I listen. I speak 371 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: honestly with my wife about anything. She just she finds him, 372 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: and she found him very attractive. You know, Tanna Hill 373 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: struggled last year. Remember on the Thursday night game, he 374 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: struggled against the Patriots. If he plays great on national TV, 375 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: you're right, and most people don't know, this is a 376 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: big moment for this entire team. If Tannahill plays well 377 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: against Rob Bryan's defense and they win that game, the 378 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: Dolphins are the story in the NFL on Tuesday. And 379 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: what about Let's let's go into the mind of Reggie 380 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: Bush the two teams he disappointed in the NFL swearing off. 381 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: He must be in a weird spot right now emotionally. Um, okay, 382 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: the game I chose Seattle Seahawks going to Houston to 383 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: play the Texans. Um. The things that jumped out to 384 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: me on this. First of all, Houston, which is two 385 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: and one but could easily be owned three. They need 386 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: a statement game to show that they're an a f 387 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: C player. Um, and if you knock off the Seahawks, 388 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: that's really good. And on the Seahawks side of it, 389 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: if they go into Houston and wipe out the Texans, 390 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: I am all in an excited that we have to 391 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: monster NFL teams. And there's no way the Seahawks and 392 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Broncos don't clash in February. I'm getting excited if they 393 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: take care of the Texans on them and that feels 394 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: like an old a f C West Week eight matchup, 395 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: but it's obviously very different because we're almost twenty years 396 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: after that. But Seahawks Broncos, I mean, please into the mind. 397 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: I like that you're already penciling in the super Bowl. No, 398 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: no way, that doesn't. I just want that. I want 399 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: to monster teams and and yes I'm getting away ahead 400 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: of myself, but my point stands, which is, we know 401 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: the Seahawks aren't gonna lose at home. If they take 402 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: care of good teams on the road, you're dealing you're 403 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: dealing with a team that's, you know, a next level 404 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: stud NFL team that we haven't seen in a while. 405 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see if they bring that same type 406 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: of skill that they bring it home. I'm I'm a 407 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: little surprised that Mark and Chris, you guys both took 408 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: the Texans in this game. What what was your thinking there, Chris? Uh? 409 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: The Seahawks going back to last year are a five 410 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: team on the road. It remains to be seen if 411 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: they will still be that team this year. They didn't 412 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: look that great in the opener at Carolina, so I think, 413 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: but they won. They won a game against a decent team. 414 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: They did, but they didn't play well. And to me, 415 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: I think they are I've said it before. They're unbeatable 416 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: at home, but they're a different team on the road. 417 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: And I'm with Dan, I want to see the Texans 418 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: have a statement game. Um, who are they? This is 419 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: one team in the NFL. I don't know who they 420 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: are through three games. I can't figure out why they 421 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: only scored nine points at Baltimore. Um, their offense should 422 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: be much better than that, and their defense played really 423 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: well at Baltimore, but they had the punt return and 424 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: an interception return that made the score look a little 425 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: bit different. Houston can be one of the best teams. 426 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I just if they don't 427 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: win this game, I'll probably write them off as a 428 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: team that I'll keep picking. My rationale was less complex. 429 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I thought I'd get a hero pick by going to Houston. 430 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: Here I came close. I still do agree though, that Seattle. 431 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like we've watched Seattle dominate and 432 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: yet I'm waiting for Russell Wilson to have that game 433 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, he completely carried them, you know, 434 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: on the road to a game they needed, and Uh, 435 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that yet yet. It's such a complete team. 436 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: Houston is a weird one. I have a feeling that 437 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: if if they can take care of business, they can 438 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: steal it. That's my hope. I love the Seahawks pick 439 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: because these are two similar teams to me. But Seattle 440 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: is better at it and Russell Wilson UH isn't throwing 441 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: the ball very much. They've been very conservative, I would 442 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: say on offense, uh, but it doesn't matter. And the Texans, 443 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: on the other hand, are an imbalanced team, whereas the Seahawks, 444 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: I think are pretty good on offense and defense. The 445 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: Technans are in balanced. They're not a good offensive team 446 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: right now. They haven't been this year. Watch Houston eight 447 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: and eight. Where are we with Andre Johnson real quick 448 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: in the game time decision? That that is a big concern. 449 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: I think if he's on the field, that the pairing 450 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: of him and Hopkins could do a little bit of damage. 451 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: But if he's not, Hopkins is in a bad situation. 452 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: I don't like Shop at all. Shop tends to ignore 453 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: Hopkins when Johnson's on the field. Shop stinks. I mean, 454 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: Shop doesn't stink. But he's not playing well right now. 455 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: Right now, he is right in that Dalton zone I 456 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: would put him. He's not a D yet, but he's 457 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: he's hitting close. He's on the brink of a D. 458 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: K Rich, how you doing, Yeah, Hey, hit the music 459 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Defend your hero? Boom there it is. That's our new 460 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: defend the defend your hero theme. Um, thank you too, 461 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: handsome Hank with that uh spoiler alert or tease something 462 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: like that. This is where we defend our hero picks. 463 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: Do people know what the hero pick are? Well, we 464 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: should clarify they should know. If they're listeners to the 465 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: pod but if there are new listeners walking the board. 466 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: And also, a hero pick is when we the five 467 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: of us, including Kevin Patra our Chicago correspondent, um, when 468 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: we all pick our games. If there's a game where 469 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: one of us pick a team that no one else picked, 470 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: that is a hero pick, and uh, every get it 471 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: if you get it right. And every week we usually 472 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: one of us usually has a hero pick, and this 473 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: week is no different. We have multiple hero picks, So 474 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: let's get right to it. Chris Westling, you have the 475 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans taking care of the Jets. This seems so 476 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: bizarre to me that I'm the one defending this. I 477 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: picked the home team, the Tennessee Titans against the Jets. 478 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: I believe the Titans are favored, the heavily favorite. They're 479 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: heavily favorite. And yet you guys like the rookie quarterback 480 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: going on the road to face a Titans team that 481 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: has out physical and every team they've played so far, 482 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: and it shows you the fickleness of the hero pick. 483 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: It's it's really not what you would ever think you can. 484 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to try to pick Cairol picks unless 485 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: you want to be insane and pick the Jaguars to 486 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks or something. A lot of times it's 487 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: just the luck of the draw, and in this case, West, 488 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: you got the luck of the draws. This is a ridiculous, 489 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: particularly ridiculous one. I'm ashamed as a representative of the rest. 490 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: If I was allowed to switch my pick, I would, 491 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: But I don't want to defend this pick because I 492 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to. So I'll just point out one thing 493 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: that we should watch in this game. Two young defensive 494 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: tackles that are playing absolutely great. Darrell Casey for the Titans, 495 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: their best defensive player this year, and Snacks Big Snacks, 496 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: the best run run defensive, the best defensive tackle against 497 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: the run this year. He and Sheldon Richardson are shutting 498 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: it down. And I would take the Jets as a 499 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: run defense over any other team in the league right now. 500 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: And I have to apologize for ripping them in August 501 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: on one of these premature I remember it seemed premature 502 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: and it was speaking of Fickle. I mean, it makes sense. 503 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: I took the Jets because I had him at seven 504 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: wins before the season, and you guys laughed at me 505 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: like I was some sort of here your memory on 506 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: this is faulty, but Greg, sit down, it's not getting 507 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: to work out. Barely tell the difference between me to 508 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: Greg's maniacal point. The Jets, the New York Jets, the 509 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: laughing stock of the NFL in many people's eyes. Definitely, 510 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm still laughing at four quarters away from exiting September 511 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: at three and one, so exactly so is Tennessee. And 512 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: the stock of the league that every like ESPN picked 513 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: the Jets is the number their head coach. All I'm 514 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: saying is a lot of people have to eat some 515 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: crow of the Jets end up approaching New York schedule 516 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: also gets it gets rough from hearing out. So this 517 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: is a game almost that if they want to be 518 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: taken seriously record wise down the road, they need to 519 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: win this game. You and I went through the Jets schedule. 520 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday of the day before, and yes, 521 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: if you don't win this game to get to the 522 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: week tend by, they almost have no chance of making 523 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: any type of noise if they don't win Sunday. This 524 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: is a very important game and uh, I don't know. 525 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: I think they have a real shot at it. I 526 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: really do. The Titans to me, maybe they have a 527 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: chance for some stain power, But most likely, the winner 528 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: of this game is the likely recipient of the two 529 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve Arizona Cardinals Memorial Team for a team 530 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: that looked okay in September and really doesn't matter. That's 531 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: a fair point unless it's the Dolphins, the three and 532 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: oh team. The Cardinals are three and all last year too, 533 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: and then they just went in the tank. That could happen. Still, yeah, 534 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: but you weren't. You are suspicious of the Dolphins the 535 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: way you were the Cardinals. Here, this is a bit 536 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: this Jets Titans thing little suspicious, all right, Mark, it 537 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: was a tough guy. You took the Chicago Bears to 538 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: beat the Detroit Lions. That's your hero. Defend your hero. 539 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: That's another one where I I think I'm surprised no 540 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: one else took the undefeated Bears, who frankly look legitimate 541 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: to me. They look improved in a lot of areas 542 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: that kept them from being taken seriously in years past. 543 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: They're blocking better. Uh, they're protecting Cutler. I think Cutler 544 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: has completely bought into Tressman. He looks to me like, 545 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, listen, everyone's saying this, and it's it's true. 546 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: You can watch the games and it looks Cutler is 547 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: a different quarterback Detroit. This is tough because Detroit, obviously 548 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: that defense has hassled J before. It's a lot going 549 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: on there on the defensive line. I don't like, uh, 550 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: the idea of Nodami con sued chasing J Cutler down, 551 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, game long. But the Bears also have a 552 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: defense that can take care of Matthew Stafford, who I 553 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: believe is still one in twenty two against teams that 554 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: finished with a winning record. This show is, by the way, 555 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: a t L. And I'm not really a member of 556 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: this club, but at the same time I picked the line, 557 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: so I guess on some level, I am a t L. 558 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Loves the Detroit Lions this season, and I feel like 559 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: we're we continued to send them and they better win 560 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: this game where it's gonna be a lot a lot 561 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: of questions. Why we feel so strongly about this team? 562 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: What's not to like so far? I mean, they lost 563 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: in Arizona, but they were playing pretty well. There was 564 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: a weird weird so far. You're right, My feelings on 565 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: the lines go as Reggie Bush goes they lost the 566 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals game because Bush got injured and didn't play the 567 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: second half, and we talked about this in the newsroom. 568 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I would not have picked the Lines to win this 569 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: week if I thought Bush was not gonna play. I 570 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: think he's that important to their offense as a second 571 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: playmaker to Calvin Johnson, and they play off each other now. 572 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: They help each other by creating space and if bushes 573 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: out of lineup, they don't have that. Cutler getting a 574 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of deserved love for improving with Mark Trustman because 575 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: that's a good storyline. But Matthew Stafford so far this 576 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: season looks better and this is a big test firm. 577 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: I think he's played better this year than he did 578 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: last year. One last thing, let's not act like the 579 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Bears of the best defense in the NFL. They've gotten 580 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: a lot of points off the turnovers, but they lost 581 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Henry Milton and they gave up what five yards to 582 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers, to the Steelers who haven't moved the ball 583 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: against anyone. However, that's it's not a fluke that there 584 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: are an opportunistic defense. They did that last year and 585 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: some of it in the first half of the season 586 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: last year. But you can't rely on turnovers for sixteen games. Okay, 587 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: if you guys want a real hero pick, those are 588 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: kind of the flukey ones that you get lucky every 589 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: once in all. With I'll give you a real hero pick. 590 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: I took the Buffalo Bills to defend their home turf 591 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens. That's a hero pick. That's why 592 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: they call me the champion of the underdog. That's why 593 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 1: you call yourself underdog. I mean, like the dun king 594 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: of yourself. Yeah, well something you gotta do it right? 595 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: Uh No, I I really think Listen, e j Manuel 596 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: did not look good against the Jets, but as Mark 597 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: you said, the Jets have a great defensive line. They 598 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: had him look at. He was confused, He was never comfortable. 599 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: At this stage, I'm much more comfortable getting behind the 600 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: Bills team when they're at home with the rookie quarterback. 601 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: The Ravens. You know, I don't know quite what to 602 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: make of the Ravens yet. I know they had a 603 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: nice performance against the Texans, at least defensive um, So 604 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to buy in on this Ravens team 605 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: going into a tough road atmosphere and taking care of business. 606 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: I should I shouldn't be that way. But again, this 607 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: is also not the same Ravens team that won road 608 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: games in January, so I'm okay with saying I'm not 609 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: ready to trust them on the road. This Ravens defense 610 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: is so much better than they were last year. They 611 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: look really good last year in the week before and 612 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: the Matt Elam putting him in the starting lineup paid 613 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: off in a big way. It allowed a head about 614 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: to go play at the line of scrimmage and ahead 615 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: about maybe four or five tackles behind the line of 616 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: scrimmage last year and Elam or last last week, Elam 617 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: played great in the secondary. I really like what the 618 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: Ravens defense has done. I got some good news and 619 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: badness for your DN. Last last podcast, you picked EJ. Manual, 620 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: Geno Smith, and Terrell Prior and asked us which quarterback 621 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: we would take right now. I think we all took Manual? 622 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: Is that right? I would change after what rewatching the 623 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: Jets Bills game. I would honestly switch my pick to 624 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: Gino Smith, not by a lot, and I don't let 625 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: any of them. But here's the bad news for you, 626 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: because your hero pick is in trouble. I think because 627 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: e J. Manuel. I think he had maybe six or 628 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: seven really ugly overthrows where he seems to be like 629 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: he's trying to be almost safe and prevent a turnover, 630 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: but he's not actually getting the ball anywhere near where 631 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: a receiver can catch it if he doesn't correct it 632 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: against what I think is a really west is right 633 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: in an underrated defense, this could be ugly. I I 634 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: say Ravens. I think the case for Dan is that 635 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: it's a defensive game. That the Bill's defense is pretty 636 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: good this year. They look better overall. I think they've 637 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: done more things. I think they have some talent upfront, 638 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: and that it's a defensive gaming. The Ravens offense did 639 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: not look good against Houston, they haven't really looked good 640 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: all season, and that it's a thirteen you know, ten 641 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: type of game, all right? And uh, speaking of Greg, 642 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: you took the Patriots of New England to take down 643 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons on the road. That's pretty gutsy because 644 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: the Pats aren't looking too hot, at least offensively still, 645 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: and the Atlanta needs this game. Well, it's like a 646 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: carried away. It's a three and o team against the 647 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: one and two team, and there's a lot that goes 648 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: into those records, but it's not that. Come on, the 649 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: Patriots have the best cake record you could cake schedule 650 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: you could ever ask for to start a season. That 651 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: that's totally fair. But to me, it's a it's a 652 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: coin flip game. And I do have a theory with 653 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: these picks, and that's when you're making picks, the worst 654 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: possible result that you can have is to pick against 655 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: your team and then they win. Anyways, you just feel 656 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: so stupid that for me, the emotional pain that comes 657 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: with that makes it so that I pretty much picked 658 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: the Patriots every week unless they unless they were in 659 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: Denver Seattle at this point, which is really risky by 660 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, picking the Patriots, That's what I'm saying, 661 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: But I guaranteed seven winning percentage most seasons. I mean, 662 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: what is it about the Falcons that makes the Patriots 663 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: some big underdogs there? What is it? I'll make that 664 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Mike Smith era there is close to unbeatable 665 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: at home? Is any team including the Seahawks over that span? Uh? There? 666 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: They haven't lost at home this year. They are too 667 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: plays from being undefeated right now. They're not playing as 668 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: bad as conventional wisdom says. Roddy White's getting healthier. If 669 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: they get a little bit of more improved play on 670 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line, maybe Tony Gonzalez runs a few more routes. 671 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: I think this Falcons team is ready to go on 672 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: a rule and you're I'm sure you're referencing the Falcons 673 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: being unbeatable at home during the regular season. Yes, this 674 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: is an interesting test of the Patriots defense because we 675 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: think they're better. But it's the first real offense they've played, 676 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: so as a Patriots fan, I'm really curious to see 677 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: how their secondary holds up, because it seems like Kyle Arrington, 678 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, Fonso Dinard are playing really well. But I 679 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: don't know if I really trust that. How do we 680 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: know we're gonna get to the rest of the games. 681 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: But before that, we had promised our special guest. He 682 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: is on the other side of the pond. He is 683 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: a great man, great valor, great broad shoulders, handsome Hank 684 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: Henry Hodson. Heck, hey, guys, how are you our supplemental 685 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: draft correspondent, an expert now our international correspondent in London 686 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: for the big showdown between the windless Pittsburgh Steelers and 687 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings people getting pumped over them. They certainly, I 688 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: will maybe sweep that under the table their records at 689 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: the moment and just focus on the history of what 690 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: time is it there are and are we messing with 691 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: your your whole schedule here? You you aren't yet at 692 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,479 Speaker 1: seven pm? I have I have plans that I managed 693 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: to sit you in amongst my busy schedule. I know 694 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: he has plans, do you know. I'll tell you what 695 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: Henry and I are are our friends, we hang out socially, 696 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: and I will tell you this. I know Henry is 697 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: happily married, he's got kids. But that guy is a 698 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: legend in England. And I always tell Henry, I say, 699 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: when whenever he goes back to London, especially when he's 700 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: on his own, it must be a lot of fun 701 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: because he goes back to the London office where he's 702 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: a legend because he worked there for how many years? 703 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Hack Um I worked there for seven years? Seven years? 704 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: And then and then and then he leaves London after 705 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: seven years to go to as they say, the States, 706 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: and he takes a big job in America, the land 707 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: of opportunity. You can only imagine what was going on 708 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: in that office, the way they must look up to him. 709 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: I can almost imagine, like Sean Payton, remember that do 710 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: your job banner that hangs hung over the practice facility 711 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: last year, Big Hank, do your job. And I also 712 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: imagine remember the receptionist in the office she pines for 713 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: Hanky comes back and she's like wow, and she's like 714 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: a mixture of Patsy Kensitt and uh pam from the office. 715 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: Is any of this accurate, Hank, only in your favorite imagination? 716 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: So were you at Steelers practice today? Greg? I didn't 717 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: thank you, Greg. I didn't go to their practice. I 718 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: went to there. They had no media availability at practice. Um, 719 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: so I went to their press conference, which happened first 720 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: thing this morning, literally immediately after they got off and 721 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: atlantic flights, so you can imagine there is the mixture 722 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: of that if any of you have traveled on those 723 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: those long flights, there's either the mixture of sheer exhaustion 724 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: or deliriousness, if that's the word. Um and uh. And 725 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: so the press conference with interesting. I have a real question, Hank, 726 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: do do people care? Are people excited for real in 727 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: England about this game? Yeah? I mean, I think if 728 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: you you know, when this game was announced, what maybe 729 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: ten months ago now, um, people were really excited. These 730 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: were two teams. Obviously that last year the Vikings made 731 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs, although um, some of us will may be 732 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: surprised that they've got there with with Christian Ponder at quarterback. 733 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: The fact that they're both going three I think is 734 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: disappointing now. And that's really been the story of a 735 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: lot of these international games that the teams have come 736 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: in with a lot of promise and then there's always 737 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: been at least one which has flopped miserably. Um, you know, 738 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: going back to the very first year when when my 739 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins arrived in London without a win and end 740 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: of the season with only one of them. Um. But 741 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: as I think people are only even excited. Look, part 742 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: of it is if you only get to see one 743 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: or two games a year, now, um, you're excited about 744 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: seeing stars. And the truth is, with Adrian Peterson and 745 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and a number of the other players on 746 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: both teams, I think the fans here are excited about 747 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: seeing some of the top players and and look what 748 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: was happened in other years. There's there's been mismatches. There's 749 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: been one very bad team, as I said, and then 750 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: one which has been pretty good. You know, the Patriots 751 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: are coming in some the Buccaneers and Rams over the 752 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: last three years. So at least I think you know 753 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: that that in fact, you're trying to put a positive 754 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: spin on it. There's there's two games for two teams 755 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: rather who are pretty evenly matched. Henry, it sounds like 756 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: what the league needs And tell me if you agree 757 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: is to flex schedule teams to suddenly find out that 758 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: they're being thrown into a London game. Yeah, I think 759 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: that would be ideal. I'm sure that will go down 760 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: just terrifically with coaches and players. So, by the way, guys, 761 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: next week you're playing in London. So Henry, I know, 762 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: you know there's probably less excitement because they're winless. But 763 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: then again, Matt Castle announced as the Vikings starter. Suddenly 764 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: there's the Matt Castle factor. Does that get them on 765 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: the front of the papers? That angle is huge? Castle 766 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: is a is a subculture hero in the UK. Do 767 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: you do you do we think this those? Do we 768 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: think it matters that Castle starting over? Patter? Seriously? Does 769 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: that change how you guys see this game at all, 770 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: not one iota, not not a bit. No. I mean, look, 771 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: I think the game is I think the game. I 772 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: do think the game will be interesting. I favored the 773 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: Vikings in a situation, but but I think it's an 774 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: interesting game. And I genuinely don't you know, I don't 775 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: think you should be too fixated on the fact that 776 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: fans here are feeling disappointed, as they say, they have 777 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: two games a year, and the second one is Jacksonville 778 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: against San Francisco. So to make about what you will, 779 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 1: I think people are this game sold out within twenty 780 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: four hours. I think people are excited about what they're 781 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: going to see on the field, and ultimately someone's going 782 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: to leave with the win. So that's good news. Hank 783 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: Was I always get excited. I tweeted about this. Hank 784 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: Was a a t L correspondent, wrote a nice little 785 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: preview piece about what's going on in London right now. Hey, 786 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: one other culture question, Hank, are there you know how 787 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: in I guess l a Here in New York, I 788 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: know there are tons of you know, soccer bars, Are 789 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: there NFL bars in London? There were? But it's funny actually, 790 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: add Kinker boiler is over here for NFL Network, and 791 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: she asked me if I could put send her to 792 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: a Steelers bar, and I said she'd be lucky to 793 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: find an NFL barles known as Steelers bar. There are 794 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: a couple of places where fans, you know win in London. 795 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, I know of that fans gathered to watch 796 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: games on Sunday nights. Um, you know when they take 797 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: place here, the game's kickoff at six pm and nine pm. 798 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: There's there's two what we in l A called the 799 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: early games. Um. So there are a couple of bars 800 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: that that fans go to. But there's certainly have places 801 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: where you can mix with other Steelers fans alone and 802 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: and no one else. I went to some bar I 803 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: think I was there in ninety nine or two thousand. 804 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: It was the Saints ever first playoff game with Jim 805 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: Haslet in that place. It was rocking for some action, 806 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: I would. I'd wager it was called the Sports Cafe, 807 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: which is sort of a big, a big London sports venue. 808 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: Way to go out on a limb with the name 809 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: sports Cafe. Yeah, well that's what it says on the tune. Um, HENK, 810 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: We'll let you go because like I said, you're you're 811 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: a hero back there are conquering hero returning exactly. Patty 812 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: Kensas waiting for what is what are your plans now? 813 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: You're like hanging out with Lily Allen or what's happening exactly? Yeah, 814 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: first of all, Lily Allen and then you know, I 815 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen seeing some of those other UK s clerbetucs names. 816 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: I can't remember the Gallagher so the Gallagher's and I 817 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: will be will definitely be be hanging out. And the guy, 818 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: the annoying comedian guy, the tall, gangly one with long hair, well, 819 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: the comedian Gallagher that bust watermelons. No, no, no, no, 820 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: the guy you know, I can't remember his name, Mr Bean, 821 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: Mr Bean? All right, okay, yeah, enjoy yourself. You are 822 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: an icon on your native soil and that has to 823 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: be exciting. It's like how Mark feels in America. That yeah, 824 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: all right, Henry, thank you for being our correspondent and 825 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: come back soon. I will do great speech you guys. 826 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: Enjoy the games this week, al right, say hi to 827 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: the receptionist. Alright later, handsome heck clearly at a British pub, 828 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: trying to mask that he seemed a little distracted. I'm 829 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: not gonna get it. I just don't know. You know, 830 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: he did a great job, but it's sounds like a 831 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: guy who was ready for a big night. You just 832 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: need to knock this out because I believe it's like 833 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: eight pm where he is right now. I think they 834 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: teach you that in host school. Right after the guest leaves, 835 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: do not, you know, make fun of him. I didn't 836 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: make fun of us distracted, But now, thank you very much, 837 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: handsome mac. Okay, so we covered We covered that game 838 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Minnesota Wheelers. By the way, just so Hank would 839 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: have had a hero pick if he counted. And by 840 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: the way, our picks you could find on the Around 841 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: the League blog. In our weekly post, Kevin patra Uh 842 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: had the worst record this week, so he wrote the 843 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: intro intro. So check that out. All right, let's get 844 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: into the rest of the games and then get out 845 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: of here. Mark Sessler Uh tell us a little bit 846 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: about Cincinnati and Cleveland. Well, I think it's two good 847 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: defenses going up against each other, and yeah, it's it's 848 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough one for Cleveland to win. I 849 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: think that Brian Hoyer after last week, there may be 850 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: some heightened expectations where he's bound to come back down 851 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: to earth against Aid really a much better defense, So 852 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: we'll see. I I honestly I picked Cleveland, but that 853 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: was that was a feeling that I'm not feeling so 854 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: good about at this point. Yeah, that Chud redemption angle 855 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: was nice last week, um after everyone basically thought the 856 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: Browns would go on the tank. But nothing in Cleveland 857 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: that is nice last for long? You are a factory 858 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: upset if how about that defensive line though Desmond Bryants 859 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: they do have a that's that's the hope that if 860 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: they play the way that they kind of have in 861 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: each game to be on that could be tough for 862 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: Cincinnati because I I do still feel with the Bengals, 863 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: if they don't get that A. J. Green connection going, 864 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: they have to go somewhere else. And if it isn't 865 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: one of their young players Eifford or Bernard, it's it's 866 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be a problem for them. I don't know 867 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: where John Hughes came from exactly, but he's been playing. 868 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: He came from the mighty homegrin front office. He is 869 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: uh and he's kind of come out of nowhere. He's 870 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: playing great. Krueger's playing great. I like the Browns in 871 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: this game. Okay, I'll talk a little bit about the 872 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: Colts and Jacksonville. You know, Jacksonville. We're all on the 873 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: old sixteen watch at this point, right, this is possible, 874 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: This could happen. Blaine Gabbert is back in the lineup. 875 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: Get excited, Jacksonville. I don't think it's gonna make any 876 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: difference the culture. I could see a little bit of 877 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: a letdown for the Colts after such a great win 878 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: in San Francisco last week, but I cannot imagine any 879 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: scenario whereby the Jaguars beat them. My Bradshaw neck injury 880 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: has not expected to play. He's been rolled out. He's 881 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: officially out for this game. So we're gonna see. We're 882 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna see how good Trent Richardson is because he's gonna 883 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: get You would think he will get at least twenty 884 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: carries in this game. How about four yards to carry 885 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: from Trent Today on Sunday against listen, Jacksonville, Jaguars defense improved, 886 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: but not necessarily NFL level. I wouldn't be that shock though, 887 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: if they played Donald Brown a lot and still split 888 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: it up somewhat just because Richardson's new there. And the 889 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: case for the Jaguars here is the Colts kind of 890 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: keep it close to the vest, so maybe it could 891 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,439 Speaker 1: be a defensive game. But I still don't see it. Hey, West, 892 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: is there any chance of Giants get things together winless 893 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: going into Kansas City to play the undefeated Chiefs against 894 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: everything I've seen on film this year, I have picked 895 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: the Giants in this game. Why did you guys do that? 896 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: A few people picked the Giant It's just hard to 897 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: believe that the Eli Coughlin Giants are going to be 898 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: truly three and thirteen dreadful and at some point they 899 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: need to win. And you know, the Chiefs very good 900 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: defense suspect offense. Maybe they this is their win just 901 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: to get on the board. That's why I picked them, 902 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, I it's the bunker mentality. Basically, I think 903 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: the Giants will this week? Is I mean, are you 904 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: going to pack it in and quit on the season 905 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 1: or are you gonna come up and play and play 906 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,919 Speaker 1: well against a quarterback who I think, frankly just isn't 907 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: playing well. Um, there are a lot of media members 908 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: pumping up Alex Smith, and I hate what I see 909 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: from him right now, So I don't I don't have 910 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: any problem picking against Alex Smith. I'm with West. I 911 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: picked the Giants, and it's one of those ones that 912 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking back on. I'm saying, why did I do this? Because, frankly, 913 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: the idea that New York finally might get that running 914 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: game going, it couldn't come at a worst time. Kansas City. 915 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: You know DeMarco Murray, we solbod did against the Rams. 916 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: He couldn't get to the outside against the Chiefs. And 917 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: you can't get anything up the middle with Don Terry Poe, 918 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: and it's like David Wilson. It could be four straight 919 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: weeks of a really underwhelming performance. I hear you on 920 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 1: the seasons on the line theory, but wasn't that last week? 921 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: That was why I picked them. Last week and I 922 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: and I saw one of the worst performances any team's 923 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: had in years. It just seems like you gotta trust 924 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: what you see. At some point in the Chiefs have 925 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: been pretty good. I have no problem saying the Chiefs 926 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: are a much better team than the Giants. I've got 927 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: a sessler. That's our new word for feeling the news room. 928 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: I thought that I know what you're saying, Greg, and 929 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean that was a awful showing by 930 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: the Johnson Carl Carolina, but that was also one of 931 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: those Murphy Law type games. Anything that could go wrong 932 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: did go wrong there. And I'm willing to kind of 933 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: maybe throw that out and give them another shot. But 934 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if they because I picked them 935 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: three weeks in a row. Now, if if they four 936 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: weeks in a row, actually, Jesus, if they burned me again, 937 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm out on the Giants. And by wrong, you mean 938 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: their offensive line is wrong, their entire second other players are. 939 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: Everything's wrong. Well, one of us picked them to go 940 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: six and ten. So this sizzler, all right? Mark, Mike 941 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: Lennon makes his NFL debut. He's taking on the Arizona Cardinals. 942 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: Bucks need to win. What do you see there? I 943 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: picked the Cardinals in this. I think it's the more 944 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: town on the football team. Overall. I like Tampa's defense, 945 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: but uh, I don't know. Anytime you have to throw 946 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: a rookie call, I think Glennon. Obviously, the guy's got 947 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: a cannon of an arm. But a lot of the 948 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: issues with Glennan from what we've heard from the draft 949 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: guys before he was taken by by Tampa is that 950 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: he he has a lot of the same issues that 951 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: that Freeman and a lot of other troubled quarterbacks have. 952 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: It's a lot to ask him to come in and 953 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: fix it and have a game when they said they're 954 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna unleash them, not just have him manage the thing. 955 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: Arizona is a well coached team. I I believe they're 956 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: gonna win this game. After pointing out for four years 957 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: that Josh Freeman is overrated, I can't believe that I 958 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: have become the media Josh Freeman defender this week. He 959 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: didn't play badly last week. Their receivers uh dropped five 960 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: or six balls by the end of the game. He 961 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: was throwing too. Eric Page, Kevin Oagletree, and some character 962 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: named Tim Wright who I've never even heard of. These 963 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: are the people Glennon is going to be thrown through 964 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: this week. Jackson and and Williams were limited in practiced 965 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: today finally after not showing up the last two days. 966 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: We don't know, both questionable. Third question, well, we don't 967 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: know if they're gonna play, what capacity they'll be at 968 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: if they do play. I don't see how the Bucks 969 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 1: offense is going to pull themselves out of this tailspin. 970 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: There are two ways to look at Mike Lennon. That 971 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,720 Speaker 1: he was the third quarterback picked in the entire draft, 972 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 1: or that he's the third round pick. And you know, listen, 973 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: it worked with Russell Wilson last year. But typically a 974 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,479 Speaker 1: quarterback that goes in the third round doesn't get thrown 975 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: into the fire immediately and become an effective player. So 976 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a hail Mary by the Bucks. 977 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: And I agree West, I mean, Freeman obviously got railroaded 978 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: out of town on this, and uh, I don't know. 979 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: It seems a little shortsighted to me to now turn 980 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: it all turn it all over to Free, turn it 981 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: all over to glenn And I guess they they have 982 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: to make a move here. They got their desperate but 983 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: it could backfire, certainly. There is one other way to 984 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: look at Glennon, as one of my Twitter followers pointed out, 985 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: he's a bit of a cartoon giraffe. That's one way 986 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: of looking at it. That is a good thing. Or 987 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: I took the Bucks because I thought their defense is 988 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: the best group in this entire game. So I don't 989 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: it's the only thing I really like about these two 990 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: teams right now. And that takes us to our last game, 991 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 1: Greg Washington, Redskins, oh and three. They go to Oakland 992 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: to take on the Raiders, and I have a hero 993 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: pick in this game, but as an asterisk next year, 994 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: I took the Raiders. But we're allowed to change our 995 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: picks if the quarterback changes, and we want to. And 996 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: and it's crazy to think that I have so much 997 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: faith in Terrell Prior that if he doesn't play, I 998 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: don't think the Raiders are gonna win this game. But 999 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: if he does play, I give him a good chance, 1000 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: and they're my pick. So as we're taping this, we 1001 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: don't know for sure whether he's playing or not. But 1002 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: he was out there on Friday after some reports suggesting 1003 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: he won't play, and he was out there taking some 1004 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: first team snaps. And I think their defense is better 1005 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: than the Redskins defense, and I think Terrell Prior is 1006 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: a guy that could make some plays against the Redskins. 1007 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: If it's Matt Flynn, I've just I've just kind of 1008 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: lost any faith I ever had in Matt Flynn. Wait, 1009 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: so we all signed off on you can just change 1010 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: your pick is that how we had that as a 1011 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: rule last year, and that to me seems fair because otherwise, 1012 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 1: because how could you know a quarterback is you know, 1013 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: we make our picks on Wednesday? Before we do, I 1014 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: thought Prior is probably gonna play in this game, and 1015 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: that that was a big thing. And Matt doesn't Matt 1016 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: Flynn scare you all? Perhaps it's time for a change. 1017 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: Scared Pete Carroll and Dennis Allen. I would argue that 1018 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: Dan didn't know that Bradford wasn't going to play last night. 1019 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: He didn't play. It didn't Um, should we do a 1020 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: rule change going forward? Listen, you know what you you're 1021 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: dealing with going in to Wednesday when you have to 1022 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: have those picks and not not retroactive going forward? Perhaps No, 1023 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: I like this rule. What's wrong with it? Because I 1024 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: don't know just the hero pix are. It's a but 1025 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm changing. I'm changing out of one anyways, just a 1026 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: little John Carrish West gets pottle. So you guys think 1027 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 1: that the Redskins are just gonna steam roll in this game, Well, 1028 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 1: I picked. I'm not gonna let you just say that 1029 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders him a better defense than the Redskins. After 1030 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: seeing the Redskins played against the Packers, the Eagles, and 1031 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 1: who else did the Redskins play against the Lions three 1032 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: of the better offenses. So I don't think that you 1033 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:18,959 Speaker 1: get to say that the Raiders just have a better defense. Yeah, 1034 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: you know, after hearing all of our plans, that maybe 1035 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: we can get Greg's wife. Greg's wife is a chef 1036 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: of some renown. If we can get her involved and 1037 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: make all these dishes with like the softball pants as 1038 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: a topping, I don't even care if the Raiders win 1039 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: eight games, and as far as we know, Greg's wife 1040 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: has no feelings for less sneed, which is good. The 1041 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 1: Raiders are and if they're gonna win, uh softball pants. 1042 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: This is one of those games you gotta win. You're 1043 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: at home against a winless team. It's a big one. 1044 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: I think r G three, though he's has looked better 1045 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: each week, and he's not the guy from I think 1046 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: last time most people Solergy three was that Monday night opener, 1047 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: and he looked it was depressing. He has and you're 1048 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 1: you're right, the Redskins, you know, have a This is 1049 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: a must win for them. I agree with Greg, though 1050 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: I almost went hero, it would have not been a hero. 1051 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: I like what I've seen from Oakland. I really do 1052 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: either an incomplete team, but it's hard to pick against 1053 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: them in a game like this because they've been really scrappy. 1054 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: I go back to that cult scheme. All right, we 1055 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. That's it. We're out of time. 1056 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: We could just keep going. We could go on in perpetuity, 1057 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: but we won't. Um. Okay, So just a couple of 1058 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: little housekeeping. I just want to call attention to some 1059 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: things we have on the site right now. Uh, Greg 1060 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: and Mark, you wrote the what to Watch for in 1061 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,760 Speaker 1: week four. That was good stuff. I enjoyed that. West 1062 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: you'd have that takedown the mark ingram uh false reports 1063 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: of a trade request where you went after a certain 1064 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: national writer. I enjoyed that. And you didn't even read. Oh, 1065 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: I enjoyed your piece. It was a pet peeve about 1066 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: people who do not understand what a report is. I try, Yes, 1067 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 1: that's true, us. I really I read your piece very closely. 1068 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: Why are you getting on me? I'm trying to plug 1069 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 1: your piece, Mark, and you won't and you won't let 1070 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: me do it for you. I just want to stay 1071 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: real with the listener. You did. You obviously did not 1072 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: even read what we wrote. Whatever. Alright, the a T 1073 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: l end around with Badger from Breaking Bad Matt Jones. Also, 1074 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: that will be up Friday. Thank you for listening. Subscribe 1075 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: to me Around the League podcast on iTunes or wherever 1076 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: you can do such things. Uh leave comments, rate us properly. 1077 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: Uh you know, just do all the things to support 1078 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 1: the podcast, because UM, we really like doing this and 1079 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: if you don't, they'll take this away from us. I'm 1080 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: just laying it out there, but we do got to 1081 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: get out of here. Uh. Dan Hanson signing off for 1082 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss k Rich behind the 1083 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: glass head. While I'll be in turn. We will see 1084 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: you on Sunday