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Speaker 1: You already know you know I had to come get you. Man.

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Speaker 1: I let you. Man. I'm saying, you want them social guys.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Appreciate it, man, Denver Love Man. I've

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Speaker 1: I've grown to appreciate Denver Man. First years, it's a

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Speaker 1: ain't no real nightlife. I'm saying, you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget. Man, my first day in the

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Speaker 1: It's it's like it's like it's not not at all

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Speaker 1: But grow created it. Yeah, because it makes you lock in.

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Speaker 1: And basically he's just saying like, hey, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be fair with everybody, but the big dogs go

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Speaker 1: get a little bit different. Yeah, yeah, they't. Y ain't

423
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Speaker 1: gonna get either, because like y'all ain't doing what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Y'all ain't did the work for eight years that they

425
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Speaker 1: did for eight years. Y'all got a y'all on a

426
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Speaker 1: different schedule than them, you know what I'm saying. But

427
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: they already did what I'm making y'all due. So I

428
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: usually just respect Cool so much. Man, how he ran

429
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Speaker 1: that building. And if you've seen them, if you've seen

430
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Speaker 1: that twenty fifteen Broncos team pre game or on the field,

431
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: you could tell you like they vibe about this world, bro,

432
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Speaker 1: and it was it had a lot to do with Cool,

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Speaker 1: I said. So, speaking of the Broncos, you back out there,

434
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Speaker 1: you're back out there? Or are you out there in

435
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: uh in Denver? Young team man? Good ass defense though,

436
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, ship good ass offense too.

437
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Speaker 1: Besides my opinion, you know it's my show. I get

438
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: to say my opinion besides a few positions. You know

439
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What you think about the team, how

440
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: you feel about it? Oh man? I agree with you, man,

441
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: especially on our side. Man, we I think we got

442
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Speaker 1: a nice little mixture of young guys and veteran guys

443
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Speaker 1: now with a barbie and adding full of those you know,

444
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Speaker 1: two guys on the corner that that's seen a lot

445
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Speaker 1: of ball, a lot of experience, you know, that's played

446
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Speaker 1: at a high level. Then you got still got me

447
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: and Jay in the back. Then, I mean we still

448
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Speaker 1: got our linebacker is kind of young, but they played

449
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Speaker 1: a ton of ball. You know, they're two of the

450
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Speaker 1: two guys since I've been here. And up front Shelby.

451
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Speaker 1: You know, you get big Mike back. You know, got

452
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Speaker 1: the two guys on the on the coming out the edge,

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Speaker 1: Chubb and bun Man. So I think we I think

454
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Speaker 1: we solid. Man, if we could stay healthy, it's gonna

455
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Speaker 1: be it's gonna be some trouble trying to move the

456
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Speaker 1: ball on us. Man. So I just think at every

457
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: every level, you know, um, we we're comfort in group. Man,

458
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: been looking good so far. But I can said offensively, well,

459
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: we got some pieces. You know, they deep in the

460
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Speaker 1: receiver room that Melvin Royce. Royce should be a huge

461
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Speaker 1: part of things. This year. They dropted a young boy

462
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Speaker 1: out of Carolina. M h. He the truth too. Yeah.

463
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: So he gonna get ross for his money now. Yeah.

464
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see, man, especially at

465
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. The quarterback competition, man, question, it ain't no

466
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Speaker 1: competition on my show. It ain't no competition. So can't

467
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Speaker 1: Teddy get it done? I think he can. I think

468
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: he can, man, because I think we didn't seen Teddy

469
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Speaker 1: player at the extremely high level with him going They

470
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Speaker 1: seen him going five and know what that New Orleans

471
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Speaker 1: team even before you know he the knee injury in Minnesota,

472
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Speaker 1: he was. He was putting up some crazy numbers. Man.

473
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Speaker 1: He had those boys playing at the extremely high level. Man. So, um,

474
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Speaker 1: and I see glances of it now in practice, man,

475
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: something just you know, some time and throws. He's making

476
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Speaker 1: this stuff. Man. But I mean obviously right now, you

477
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: know it's an open competition. But you know we're on

478
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Speaker 1: your show. So Teddy get it done, man. And I

479
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: like Teddy the experience he has, man. So, and that's

480
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Speaker 1: the thing in our comforence. Man, you gotta score, like, yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: you gotta put up points. Now, you got you gotta

482
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Speaker 1: score and and and I mean obviously Casey the team

483
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Speaker 1: to beat. Man. So, and you know, those guys gonna

484
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Speaker 1: put up points, Man, but we gotta defensively. We're gonna

485
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Speaker 1: have a great chance to to you know, keep him,

486
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Speaker 1: keep him off the scoreboard as much as possible. But

487
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Speaker 1: at the same time, you gotta score in this league, man,

488
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: it's gotta score. Even if you beat the Chiefs, you're

489
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Speaker 1: gonna have to score them boys gonna get twenty if

490
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Speaker 1: we hold them boys a twenty twenty, that's a great

491
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Speaker 1: day for us. So you gotta score some points. You

492
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Speaker 1: gotta score some points for show to score points. Man,

493
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Speaker 1: got to So that's a that's gonna be a huge

494
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Speaker 1: thing forward to ship man. But I'm looking forward to it, man,

495
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: looking forward to getting the camp man and compete with

496
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Speaker 1: the guys. Man. And I'm definitely looking forward to seeing

497
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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen at that quarterback position. Definitely, I am too.

498
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Speaker 1: And uh, I'm looking forward to I don't know, I

499
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: feel like I just know John a little bit, right,

500
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: I've been around John, that name floating around there. Man.

501
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: I honestly think y'all gonna have to Shane soon. I

502
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: think y'all gonna have to Shane soon. No, No, boyshit.

503
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Speaker 1: And if y'all get the Seine bro y'all definitely a

504
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Speaker 1: contender immediately, and and and and there's no disrespect to

505
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Speaker 1: the guy who got in that locker room. Man, It's

506
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: never disrespect man. This is gotta, yeah, I gotta. I

507
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: got a great relationship with the Sean. I've been talking

508
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Speaker 1: to him in the last couple of weeks, man, and

509
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: and like all he's been. All he's been telling me

510
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: is like, look, Jack, just tell him, like, that's why

511
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Speaker 1: I want to be. Like he like, that's why I

512
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: want to be. I'm like, man, see the set up,

513
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Speaker 1: the line straight. He see the set up. He liked, Man, listen,

514
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Speaker 1: that's why he like, I want to be in Denver.

515
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Speaker 1: I want He's like in in Like during the time

516
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Speaker 1: while I was going through, you know, my little free

517
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Speaker 1: agency thing and I end up signing back here. Before

518
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Speaker 1: I signed, he called. He was like, man, or you're

519
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna sign. I was like, I don't know, I ain't

520
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: sure yet. He was like, well, you know, let me

521
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna do whatever whatever, And I signed back.

522
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: He was like, listen, man, tell him that I want

523
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Speaker 1: to be in Denvers. I'm like, hey, man, Hey, y'all here, man,

524
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Speaker 1: you know what Shan would be. Y'all here, y'all here,

525
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: we catch your face baby, Hey, so far, I let

526
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: you get out of here though, Sam, you already gave

527
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: me my hotline that I need. Shit Far, I let

528
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Speaker 1: you get about it here. Who the best second day

529
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: you ever seen? Ever seen? Yeah, you're here about I

530
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: know you're here about a lot. You're here a lot

531
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: about a certain group out there in Denver. Sound just asked,

532
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: I want to know your opinion what I'm saying. Hey,

533
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: from day one, I've been here, man, and obviously just

534
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: having a chance to watch you guys at that that

535
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: point in time, man, when when you guys were playing

536
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: that at a high level plan that that group was together,

537
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: and from day one is they can y'all be the

538
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: no flies on too? I said? And I tell them,

539
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, if we do half of what they did,

540
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: it'll be a great year for us. Like yeah, I'm looking,

541
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: I'm just like we need a few more pieces for

542
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: that because they were trunk tight, Like t ain't need

543
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: that nigga got to come out the gate. And I'm like,

544
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm like they were trunk tight, man. And then like

545
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: this year, roll around, we add a couple on pizza.

546
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, you can't. You can't tap, you can't.

547
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: You can't just throw that name around because though what

548
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: them dudes did that ship was special. Man, you can't.

549
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: You can't be like, no Flies appreciate Like I'm like, man,

550
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: that because that that that'll never be duplicated what they did.

551
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: Like for one, you got to create your own laying

552
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: your own name, but like you can't those dudes, man,

553
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: them do what they did like that was some special

554
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: football and you'll probably never see that again. Nobody will

555
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: ever duplicate that. It's like the leasion of Boom and

556
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: what they were doing that that that that point in time,

557
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: and I'm white, man, that was a different group. Man.

558
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: They'll dude did some special stuff on that field. So

559
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: it's just like, all right, we we got to create

560
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: our own name, our own lane, but we got to

561
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: go do it first, and y'all got a good ass

562
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: group to do it. Though, you know what I'm saying,

563
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: and our agreement, but we can't go into the season

564
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: like shit, we're gonna be the note Flies on two

565
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: points no, and we get out and get hit And

566
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm like man, come on, nah, No, you can't start

567
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: talking about it until like right now, we're just a dB. Yeah.

568
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 1: The expectations man, Yeah, we definitely want all that. We

569
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: want to go out. We want to be a confident group.

570
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: But we gotta go put that. We gotta go put

571
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: it on tape, man, and then we can put it

572
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: on tape. Weak weak man. I think we got a

573
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: chance to do some special stuff. But for me, that's

574
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: what that's what it's about for me, just going out

575
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: there on a consistent basis and and and you know,

576
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: improving ourselves. All right. I know y'all go on ball

577
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: because I just see the guy y'all got man full

578
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: of you. Uh uh justin man with them three right

579
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: there them If them like the y'all baller, baller what

580
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, then we got my dog Derby and a

581
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: young boy they like wild card Derby could come out

582
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: and had some picks this year, you know what I'm saying.

583
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: We see how you ball or certain you can come

584
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: out and has something like y'all the wild cards. Bro.

585
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: If if if one of them come out and go

586
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: crazy and one just stripping, man, y'all gonna be like

587
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: top three secondaries in the league out the gate. Y'all

588
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna be top ten, y'all the top five secondary for

589
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: the show. And y'all got that that ship coming off

590
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: the edge. That don't do number help. So I'm looking

591
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: forward to watching y'all boys. Man, I already know y'all

592
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: in that scheme. That scheme cold to man me and

593
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Chris loved a scheme. Yes, but uh, she'ld be a

594
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: good Yeah. Man, I'm excited. Man, you gotta come out

595
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: of hand. You gotta come out hand. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

596
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't got no job or nothing. Man, I gotta

597
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: come check y'all boys out in prison. Man, let y'all

598
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: get you. You already know you already know. I gotta

599
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: come houle that John Man, my favorite boss ever. You

600
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, when you come, man, I

601
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: need him what what what? What team? I might as

602
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 1: well get you a Broncos won while I'm out there,

603
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: we can go in the back. You know I got access.

604
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: I go back getting printed up for you. Man. I

605
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: need them three heads. I need him through heads, say

606
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: no more, say no more. So I'm I'm gonna get

607
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: with you when I come out there for show. Bro,

608
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: i'm gonna I'm gonna be here. You already know I

609
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: appreciate your brother. I don't doubt man. I appreciate you man.

610
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me