WEBVTT - VIva Las Vagus Nerve

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Anxiety Bites podcast, and I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jen Kirkman. While I'm doing another episode of Anxiety Bites,

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Jen Kirkman. Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas nerve. Now, I've heard this term, and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in my billions of years working on my anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>that no one really ever mentioned it to me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you don't need to know what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty fascinating to know that we have this

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<v Speaker 1>nerve that send signals to almost every part of our body.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are ways to stimulate this nerve that don't

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<v Speaker 1>involve touching it directly. It's not like a muscle that

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<v Speaker 1>you would get a massage on, but that when this

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<v Speaker 1>nerve is sort of poop, doubt, it disrupts the signals

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<v Speaker 1>it's trying to send to certain parts of our body

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<v Speaker 1>for digestion or for you know, thinking. Clearly, it covers

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things, and so I guess it's just

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<v Speaker 1>more knowledge so that when you think about doing a

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<v Speaker 1>relaxation exercise or doing a meditation, you might think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to do that. I feel okay mentally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a good mood. And it's like wessage just

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<v Speaker 1>about your mood. You know, you want to stimulate your

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<v Speaker 1>vaguas nerve so that things are running a okay in

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<v Speaker 1>your body. And it's not something that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>like obsess over and worry about. Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't stimulate my veguas nerve today, But it's just something

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<v Speaker 1>to be aware of that it kind of contributes to

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<v Speaker 1>the overall And so there's so much that this nerve

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<v Speaker 1>does that I actually have two episodes coming out about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I'm talking to Dr Novaz Habib about more physical

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of the vegas nerve, and he has a book

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<v Speaker 1>titled Activate your Vagus Nerve. Unleash your body natural ability

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<v Speaker 1>to heal, gut sensitivities, inflammation, brain fog, anxiety, autoimmunity, depression.

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<v Speaker 1>And then next week's episode, I'll be talking to someone about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, healing emotional trauma and what emotional trauma does

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<v Speaker 1>to the vagus nerves. So at the end of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>before I get to the takeaways, I will read to

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<v Speaker 1>you from Dr Habib's book about some of the exercises

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do, whether it's daily or ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are better to do. Just weakly to help activate the

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<v Speaker 1>vagus nerves. I will give you all of them. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get the rest in his book, but just to

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<v Speaker 1>give you an idea. So I'm just going to get

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<v Speaker 1>right to this episode because this is all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>newer to me. So let's just let the expert talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and I don't need to keep babbling about

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<v Speaker 1>the vagus nerve. But yeah, I mean this is almost like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a like the cliff note. It's a version

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<v Speaker 1>of what the vagus nerve does. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot about it, you're probably going to sit

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<v Speaker 1>there and be like, oh my god, there's so much more,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like I know, I know. Um So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>my guest today, Dr Novas Habb is an author. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also the founder of Health Upgraded, a functional medicine and

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<v Speaker 1>health optimization clinic in Toronto, Canada. He works with high

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<v Speaker 1>performing professionals, athletes, and entrepreneurs to dig a little deeper

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<v Speaker 1>and find the answers to what's holding back their health again.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also the author of Activate Your Vegas Nerve and

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<v Speaker 1>all uh. All links will be in the show notes

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<v Speaker 1>right here where you can get the book and find

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<v Speaker 1>out more about dr have and for now, let's find

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<v Speaker 1>out more about the Vegas nerve. Well, the vagus nerve,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone listening it's not spelled like las Vegas v

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<v Speaker 1>A g U S. Sure they know because they're reading along.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had heard of the vagus nerve, and throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, smart people I've talked to have casually mentioned it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kept thinking, I have to do a Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>nerve episode. And when I read your book, Activate your

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<v Speaker 1>Vagus Nerve, unleash your body's natural ability to heal, I

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<v Speaker 1>was blown away by everything that our vagus nerve. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if controls is the right word, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will say casually controls or has a hand in. And

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<v Speaker 1>so let's just start real basic. What is the vagus

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<v Speaker 1>nerve and what are the main things in the body

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<v Speaker 1>it controls? Yeah, the book, the book goes into a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more depth, but we can definitely cover the basics

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<v Speaker 1>here and so, um, we we have lots of nerves

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<v Speaker 1>in our body. And the reason I talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>one is because it's a special nerve. It it really

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<v Speaker 1>does a lot more than people realize. It connects to

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<v Speaker 1>so many different places. That's in fact why they named it.

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<v Speaker 1>The vagus nerve came from the root word of vague

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<v Speaker 1>or like I guess it means wandering, meaning that it

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<v Speaker 1>goes to so many different places. So it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>twelve pairs of cranial nerves that comes out of the

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<v Speaker 1>brain stem, which is that little projection just below the

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<v Speaker 1>brain as we know it where if you've ever watched

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<v Speaker 1>Um the Water Boy, he talks about the medulla oblong dada.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly where the vegas nerve actually comes out. Where

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<v Speaker 1>it comes out. It comes out one on each side.

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<v Speaker 1>There's four roots and then they come out and they

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<v Speaker 1>connect and then they actually blend together. The right side

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<v Speaker 1>and the left side blend together, and it has different

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<v Speaker 1>branches that go to a bunch of different areas. Like

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<v Speaker 1>all of the other twelve cranial nerves, primarily they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit areas in the head and face area, so

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<v Speaker 1>things like I control and facial muscles are controlled through

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<v Speaker 1>the cranial nerves. But the vagus nerve does a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, so it does have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of control in and around the head and neck. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually sends a branch to the ear for skin sensation.

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<v Speaker 1>It sends a couple of branches to the throat, to

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<v Speaker 1>the pharynx, and to the larynx. Those are the muscles

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<v Speaker 1>at the back of the throat that allow the airway

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<v Speaker 1>to remain open, and the laryngeal muscles, so it helps

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<v Speaker 1>to pull and push the the vocal cards. So that

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, is what gives us pitch and tone in

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<v Speaker 1>our voice. So the reason that can go really really

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<v Speaker 1>low or really really high with my voice is because

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<v Speaker 1>I have tone or tonally within my vagus nerve sending

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<v Speaker 1>signals through there to stretch the muscles and pull the

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<v Speaker 1>vocal chords accordingly. But then it continues down and it

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<v Speaker 1>actually courses in the neck right beside the carotid artery

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<v Speaker 1>in the jugular vein, and what makes things I always

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you don't want to hit those exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually funny enough. It's inside the same sheet that's

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<v Speaker 1>inside the same tissue as those two blood vessels. So

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<v Speaker 1>those are the blood vessels that supply blood to the

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<v Speaker 1>brain and take blood away from the brain. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it just goes to show how important this nerve truly is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it gets severed or if anything within that sheath

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<v Speaker 1>gets severed, the function of our body is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be severely limited. And so as it goes down, it

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<v Speaker 1>then enters into the thorax, into the chest area, where

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<v Speaker 1>it innervates the heart to control heart rate and do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of other stuff. It goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>lungs to monitor the breath rate. Doesn't control it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't monitor it, and that's really important. And it

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<v Speaker 1>talks about inflammation, supports the inflammation response within all of

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<v Speaker 1>these organs as well. But it doesn't stop there, continues

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<v Speaker 1>on down with the esophagus and goes through the diaphragm

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<v Speaker 1>into our abdomen, into our belly, where it then innervates

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<v Speaker 1>essentially every single organ within the entire belly. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>other nerve in the body that does anything like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to innervate the spleen, the kidneys, the liver, stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>small intestine, large intestine, you name it. Every organ has

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of connection to the vegus nerve. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what really stuck out to me about the topic about

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<v Speaker 1>this nerve. It's always stuck out to me. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>chiropractor by profession, and so like nerve a system, brain

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<v Speaker 1>function has always been a huge piece of my my

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<v Speaker 1>journey and understanding health, and so this one always stuck

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<v Speaker 1>out as a really important piece of the puzzle, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why I wanted to share once I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more about what it does, that it needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be told to people because there's such an important

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<v Speaker 1>controlling mechanism here and you were using a word is

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<v Speaker 1>it innervate? Is that what you were saying? It means

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<v Speaker 1>supplyect right, So it means connect to and send signals to.

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<v Speaker 1>More from I do want to talk about this concept

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<v Speaker 1>that you do mention in the book that the vagus

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<v Speaker 1>nerve has a function in which is gut health. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we even get to that, I just have a

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<v Speaker 1>really silly question why. I mean, this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>philosophical question, but why why have this one nerve do

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<v Speaker 1>so much? Isn't that dangerous? And shouldn't it delegate to

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<v Speaker 1>other nerves? Is it? Or is there an advantage to

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<v Speaker 1>having one nerve do so much? It's a really great question. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>If I knew the full answer to that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it would be on par with whatever ultimate being there

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<v Speaker 1>is out there. I don't have a full answer to that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we do know that the parasympathetic nervous system, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what that rest digest recovery system is signaled

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<v Speaker 1>through the vegas nerve. And yeah, it is a single

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<v Speaker 1>point of failure potentially right and certain indices. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it was built out with the intention of

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<v Speaker 1>ever having been injured, uh severely right, um And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's it's encased in a very important sheet.

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<v Speaker 1>It connects left and right. It has a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of backup plans. Essentially it can go up

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<v Speaker 1>through either side and connect to the same area and

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<v Speaker 1>send signals accordingly. Um So, so there is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a backup plan built into it, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>it's more of a therm stat type of function than

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<v Speaker 1>it is a signaling out from the brain function. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not as worries some if anything does happen

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<v Speaker 1>that said trauma and injury to the nerve would creative

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<v Speaker 1>does create significant challenges to a lot of people. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to address this because the words gut health and

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<v Speaker 1>mind body connection and inflammation are very popular in our culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people take those terms and

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<v Speaker 1>run with it in ways that I think are damaging.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's demystify these things, because your book goes so

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<v Speaker 1>well into explaining and honestly, it's like taking a college

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<v Speaker 1>course in you know, biology, but you say in this

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<v Speaker 1>bum to read your book to you. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>most likely low grade stressors that you may not be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of is the bacteria living in and around you.

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<v Speaker 1>The population of bacteria living in your gut and on

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<v Speaker 1>your skin has a significant effect on us, and if

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<v Speaker 1>that population is optimally balanced, it can be a major

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<v Speaker 1>stressor on your body. So so let's start there. What

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? What is gut health? How does

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<v Speaker 1>it relate to being a stress around the body, which

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<v Speaker 1>I assume would come up in the form of stress, anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>even pain. Yeah. Absolutely. Um. The best way to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of simplify this and understand it within context is that

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<v Speaker 1>we have between forty and sixty trillion human cells in

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<v Speaker 1>our body, and these forty six trillion human cells can't

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<v Speaker 1>function on their own in the environment that we are in.

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<v Speaker 1>They require support from some external ah cells and organisms,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are things that we generally can't see, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are the bacteria, parasites, viruses, east horns that are

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<v Speaker 1>all around us. With the majority of these other organisms.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a sim biotic relationship, meaning that we work

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<v Speaker 1>really well with them, and they work really well with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Our body provides them with nutrients that they need, they

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<v Speaker 1>assimilate and provide us nutrients that we need, and over

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<v Speaker 1>the millennia of our revolution, we have evolved to have

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<v Speaker 1>this very positive relationship with the vast majority of these

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<v Speaker 1>microbiome supporting a microbiome producing populations. So I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>have between fourty and sixty trillion human cells in our body.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in our large intestine alone, we have over a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred trillion bacteria HM. So that population is really quite important.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it sounds a little hokey when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about gut help when we talk about microbiome, but

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<v Speaker 1>the scientists finally starting to catch up and it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>starting to identify exactly where these challenges can come from

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<v Speaker 1>and what this disbiosis meaning imbalance within the gut can

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<v Speaker 1>lead to. Okay, I having instituted testing in my own practice,

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<v Speaker 1>so I actually help people identify where the challenges are

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. Adam microbiome level using stool testing, using DNA

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<v Speaker 1>based stool testing to identify exactly what types of bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>are around. Yeah, you know, I talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast about the concept of chemical imbalance when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to treating anxiety depression with medication. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>no test, you know, and something like this we hear

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<v Speaker 1>gut health. I'm glad to hear that there is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a way to find out what's in there, what's imbalanced. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is what what I kind of practice in

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<v Speaker 1>my own life and my own journey. I found functional

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<v Speaker 1>medicine which really helped me to support my own health.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to way to enter fifty pounds, high blood pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>borderline diabetes in my twenties and just was dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>significant health challenges. Energy was always low, and when I

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<v Speaker 1>was introduced to this it was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>shock to my system. I was going through chiropractic college.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I knew everything about health. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to share this with so many people, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't implementing it myself. And then when functional medicine came around,

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<v Speaker 1>it really helped open my eyes too beyond what we

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<v Speaker 1>tend to kind of see in the conventional system. And

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<v Speaker 1>the testing was key to this. When we understand biochemically

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<v Speaker 1>what's truly going on within our body when we have UH,

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<v Speaker 1>the step by step process is shown to us based

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<v Speaker 1>on the actual testing that we see through gut testing,

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<v Speaker 1>through urinary organic acid testing, through hormone testing. These can

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<v Speaker 1>help us to really pick out the specific areas where

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<v Speaker 1>we as an individual or having issues. And then this

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<v Speaker 1>is where we can kind of marry new world scientific

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<v Speaker 1>insights and tools that we have through testing with old

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<v Speaker 1>world wisdom that's been there through traditional Chinese medicine, ire

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<v Speaker 1>vetic medicine, Mediterranean medicine, and has truly slowly transformed into

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this natural alternative care type of idea. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's not truly alternative, it's something that's been there

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<v Speaker 1>for much longer than the conventional system that we're in. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an alternative to the newer thing we made up

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<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. So, I've worked with many people that are

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with mental health struggles, a lot of people with

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<v Speaker 1>autoimmune conditions, a lot of people with these underlying root causes.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we identify what that root causes, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>often about the time I can identify that microbiome imbalance,

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<v Speaker 1>that disbiosis that's going on within the gut, that's affecting

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<v Speaker 1>the gut health, and so we actually have scientific like

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<v Speaker 1>proof of why the problem is occurring, why we're leading

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<v Speaker 1>down this path of inflammatory reactions within the gut that's

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<v Speaker 1>leading elsewhere. We also, just as a side note, seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of our immune cells by volume are located in

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<v Speaker 1>the lining of the gut, and so this is where

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<v Speaker 1>inflammation will often come up. We have this protective mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>because we know that not all good things are in

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<v Speaker 1>the gut. It's not all good bacteria, um parasites, worms,

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<v Speaker 1>candid to all these things do pop up, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we need to protect ourselves from it. And if we're

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<v Speaker 1>not providing the right tools for the immune system to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to handle those threats, that's where the problems

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<v Speaker 1>tend to occur. Um That comes down to diet, that

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to breathing, That comes down to vagus nerve activity,

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<v Speaker 1>because the vagus nervous supplying information to that area, to

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<v Speaker 1>the gut lining, to the inflammatory cells that in fact

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<v Speaker 1>controls an entire system called the coolinergic anti inflammatory system

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<v Speaker 1>literally is controlled through the vagus nerve. If that signaling

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<v Speaker 1>isn't present, then we can't put the brakes on an

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<v Speaker 1>accelerator basically, So what I like to say is our

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<v Speaker 1>our bodies aren't like a car, and the accelerator is

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<v Speaker 1>like the sympathetic nervous system where we go in to

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<v Speaker 1>fight or flight. We're in go mode. But when we

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<v Speaker 1>get to a red lighter, when we get to a

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<v Speaker 1>yellow light, we need to slow down. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to shut off or decrease the speed by

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<v Speaker 1>which we're going. If we can't do that, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cause major issues. Right we're going to go through a

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<v Speaker 1>red light, We're gonna hurt somebody potentially. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>brakes are the parasympathetic nervous system. The vaguest nerve is

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<v Speaker 1>the brakes to the entire system. We'll be right back, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the vagus nerve monitors what's going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>gut and and again at the end of the episode

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<v Speaker 1>will get more solution based. But so there's a world

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<v Speaker 1>where not just through diet, which I know does affect

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<v Speaker 1>the vaguest nerve, but certain exercises we can do, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's acupuncture or massage or changing our sleep that can

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<v Speaker 1>change how the vagus nerve monitors the gut and somehow

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<v Speaker 1>help heal or am I kind of relating that in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that's not correct. Oftentimes, what exacerbates the issues

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<v Speaker 1>that we are experiencing is the fact that the vegas

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<v Speaker 1>nerve is under too much pressure. So when we if

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<v Speaker 1>we go back to the brakes a little bit, as

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<v Speaker 1>a very simple example, brake pads wear out the same

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<v Speaker 1>way the vegas nerve can get overworked. If we're constantly

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<v Speaker 1>providing inflammatory um challenges to the body, the brakes are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wear out. The vegas nerve can't handle a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of constant chronic inflammatory issues that are constantly coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>and so slowly and surely the vegas tone is going

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<v Speaker 1>to decrease. The ability for our vegas nerve to send

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<v Speaker 1>these signals on a regular basis is going to come down.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what we need to do is to do

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<v Speaker 1>the exercises, do the tools, and provide the vagus nerve

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<v Speaker 1>and opportunity to do the work that it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>do without providing more chronic inflammatory reactions on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what they do. Um when when we

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<v Speaker 1>do the deep breathing exercise, when we do the meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>when we do the the good gut health cleanses and

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<v Speaker 1>the detoxes, if that's the plan that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go down. Um, what we're essentially doing is we're decreasing

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<v Speaker 1>the inflammatory triggers and we're giving the body a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to heal itself. The body truly does know how to

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<v Speaker 1>heal itself, but we have to give it the right environment,

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<v Speaker 1>the right tools, the right inputs to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. And so that's where the exercises will help

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<v Speaker 1>to provide that initial step. And for some people we

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<v Speaker 1>might need to go a step further where we actually

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<v Speaker 1>change the microbiome using probiotics, where we actually address specific,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially genetic, some somewhat functional imbalances with certain supplements or

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<v Speaker 1>certain ingredients that need to be included within their diet.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where we can work on the optimization side

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<v Speaker 1>of things, where we can actually help the body to

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<v Speaker 1>function at a slightly better level. It's almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>bio hacking type of idea, but in a very clinical

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<v Speaker 1>and very test based sense, so we know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to accomplish. And that's why the vast majority

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<v Speaker 1>of people that work with a properly trained functional medicine

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<v Speaker 1>practitioner somebody that understands the function of the body really well,

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<v Speaker 1>often have really good results. When I think about inflammation,

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<v Speaker 1>I often say, if I'm feeling off, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to allow us to put it. I might say,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's inflammation somewhere. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about, but it's just become a new word

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. And what exactly is inflammation? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume something is literally inflamed or uh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>so how does it happen? How do we bring it down?

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<v Speaker 1>And kind of demystified this other buzzword I hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot totally. So inflammation is our body's response to trauma

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<v Speaker 1>and stress within different ways. And there's there's four different

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<v Speaker 1>types of stressors that can trigger inflammatory responses. Emotional stress

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<v Speaker 1>is one. We can have this brain inflammation that pops

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<v Speaker 1>up that leads to brain fogginess and ability to think clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>memory challenges. And this can happen because we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>relationship stress or financial stress on a day to day basis, kids, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And really rough nite with my kids last night, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can um. So, emotional stress is one, Psychological stress

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<v Speaker 1>is another one. And you may say, well, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between emotional and psychological. Psychological is more kind of

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<v Speaker 1>past related. What are the challenges that we experienced potentially

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<v Speaker 1>as a child, potentially as we were growing up that

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<v Speaker 1>created the scratches on the lens through which we see

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Right, So I only see the world in

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<v Speaker 1>this way because I was affected in a negative way

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. Right, What are those emotional attachments that

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<v Speaker 1>we have that have created that that scuff on the lens? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so a little bit different. We always want to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the timeline when we're looking at a certain case,

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<v Speaker 1>when somebody's experienced potentially trauma or something they were younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have physical stress. These are the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we think of when we think of inflammation. More commonly,

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking about car accident and we've hurt ourselves whiplash, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we have to send all of these cells

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<v Speaker 1>to this area to help repair the damage. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what inflammation is. Initially in the acute sense, inflammation is

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<v Speaker 1>sending these cells to an area that's damage to help

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<v Speaker 1>support repair of it. Inflammation is a good thing in

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<v Speaker 1>an acute scenario. When that inflammation can't be controlled is

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<v Speaker 1>when it becomes a bad thing. And so the physical

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<v Speaker 1>sense is like, let's think of a bruise on our arm.

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<v Speaker 1>We get this big swelling, we get that inflammatory warm response.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because the blood flow is going to that area

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<v Speaker 1>to help to repair that damage. So that's a really

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<v Speaker 1>simple way to think about it. But physical uh, stress

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<v Speaker 1>will create that. And then the last one is biochemical stress,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is generally the stuff that we don't see

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<v Speaker 1>until it's maybe a little bit late. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>food sensitivities can come in for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are dealing with specific sensitivities too. For some people,

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<v Speaker 1>gluten for some people, dairy for some people, um, nightshade,

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>vegetables can do it, for some people, meat can do it. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>different people have different triggers that can create this biochemical response,

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<v Speaker 1>So for some people it's a food based thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of other people. We have to add

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<v Speaker 1>it to this entire realm of toxic ingredients that are

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<v Speaker 1>around us, right, the pesticides that are sprayed on our foods,

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<v Speaker 1>the inorganic laundry detergent that we use, or the chemicals

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<v Speaker 1>that are on receipt paper when we get our receipt

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<v Speaker 1>from Costco or from wherever we're shopping. As we walk out,

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<v Speaker 1>we're holding this receipt paper which is sending bisphenol a

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<v Speaker 1>b p A into our bloodstream. The longer you hold that,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the more you're gonna absorb. So do

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<v Speaker 1>your best to just toss your receipt onto the carpeople

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you can. Yes, the CBS receipts are

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<v Speaker 1>killing us, that's exactly right. So we want to be

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<v Speaker 1>really careful about this toxic burden because that excess toxin

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<v Speaker 1>load that our body then has to handle will only

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<v Speaker 1>add to the inflammatory response that our body is going

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<v Speaker 1>to create. We have a lot that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with. Our liver is detoxifying constantly, and if our

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<v Speaker 1>body doesn't have the capacity to handle it, then as

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<v Speaker 1>a toxic burden goes up, that biochemical stress increases, our

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<v Speaker 1>inflammatory response gets hindered more and more. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>response is what's mediated through the vagus nerve. How do

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<v Speaker 1>we help to limit how much inflammation is occurring. Inflammation

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<v Speaker 1>is good, like I said, in an acute scenario, it

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<v Speaker 1>helps to repair tissue. It sends the cells to the

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<v Speaker 1>area that are going to help repair the white blood

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<v Speaker 1>cells the fibroblasts. They don't need to get into the specifics,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna send the specific cells to that area

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<v Speaker 1>through the blood to repair damage. If that does not

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<v Speaker 1>get controlled, then our immune response and our inflammatory response

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<v Speaker 1>is uncontrolled, and that's where the problem will occur when

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<v Speaker 1>we have chronic inflammation. Chronic uncontrolled inflammation is essentially we're

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<v Speaker 1>stepping on the accelerator and not allowing the brakes to

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<v Speaker 1>do their job, not allowing the brakes to slow it

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<v Speaker 1>down and to limit inflammation. The way inflammation occurs within

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<v Speaker 1>the body is a traumatic incident of some sort occurs,

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<v Speaker 1>we send cells to the area. There's a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>chemical reactions. Don't need to get into the specifics, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to send more and more cells to the

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<v Speaker 1>area to repair. If it happens in certain areas like joints,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get things like rheumatoid ar thornies. If it

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<v Speaker 1>happens in the thyroid, we're gonna get hashimotos there. If

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<v Speaker 1>it happens in the brain, we could get things like

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<v Speaker 1>MS or brain fog or significant challenges that occur long term.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to control the inflammation, and that signal is

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<v Speaker 1>sent through the vagus nerve via that col allergic anti

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<v Speaker 1>inflammatory system which is mediated there, so where the vaggest

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<v Speaker 1>nerves the brakes to help control what that inflammation is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do. So if I a person who is

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that maybe I have some inflammation in my body,

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<v Speaker 1>I am feeling whatever that feels like because of the

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<v Speaker 1>vagus nerve. Is that correct it. When the vagus nerve

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<v Speaker 1>identifies that there are inflammatory signals around our body, it

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<v Speaker 1>can signal upwards via signals that go from the body

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<v Speaker 1>to the brain through the vagus nerve. Yes, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same as like when you feel somebody touching

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>your hand. Those are going through scaltal nerves that those

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>are the nerves that go via our spinal cord. So

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>there's different nerves that will have different functions. We can't

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>truly feel through our vagus nerve. It's not feeling from

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like a sense perspective. It's more of autonomic monitoring. So

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>think of it more like the thermostatic of our of

0:26:54.040 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>our body. Anxiety bites will be right back after a

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>quick little message from one of our sponsors. You mentioned

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that acute inflammation is part of how the body heals

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and a really good example of something on your arms swelling.

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>We're going to have a little lump there for a while.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>But when something is chronically inflamed, that's when it's moved

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>into a disordered area. And that is again another through

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>line that happens throughout this podcast. Is the same for anxiety.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, we need our acute moments of anxiety so

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that we don't get hit by a car or we

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>know to respond to something, and then it's disordered when

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>we feel that way all of the time. If I'm

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>experiencing brain fogged because of inflammation in my brain, is

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>my brain literally swollen. I'll give you an example. My

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>dad um ten years ago. He's fine now, thank god,

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 1>but fell down, hit his head and had a subdural

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>hematomy and his brain a swelling. Because I'm not telling

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you this, but you know, to the listeners and correct

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. But the there was blood starting

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>to pool and his brain was swelling and moving away

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>from it so you know, to protect itself. And then

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 1>of course that caused him not to be able to speak.

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>He was making no sense. He had to have a

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>surgery to drain the blood. Now obviously that's not what

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>my brain is doing when I'm having brain fog, But

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>is it not to a small extent that's exactly right,

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 1>to a very very small extent, not to the point

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>where it's actually going to trigger a pressure increase within

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the cranial cavity like it does in the case of

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>your father's with subderal hematoma. So with an acute physical

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>trauma where you hit your head, whether it's a traumatic

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>brain injury of some sort, whether it's a whiplash style

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>or concussion style injury, those are physical reasons for inflammation

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to occur within the brain, uh in and around the brain,

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>And subderal means just below in the ninjis, so it's

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in the casing around the brain. When that happens, when

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>there's bone that's kind of blocking it, then we actually

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>have this swelling that's physically pushing on the brain. Right.

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>So this is like it's going to affect a specific area. Say,

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>for example, in your dad's case, it was affecting his

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>speech area, as inability to speak came from physically having

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>pressure on that area. When it comes to something like

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a biochemical respond to biochemical inflammation, we're looking at just

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>activation of some of the cells within the brain and

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the nervous system itself, and these are called glial cells

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and astro sites. These cells make up they're they're called

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>glial cells because they were initially thought to be the glue,

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but they're really the immune cells within the brain. And

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>so what they do is they are the ones that

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>are constantly making sure that there isn't any damage occurring

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>within the brain. They're proning nerve endings, They're making sure

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that the nerves are are functioning at the best possible leve.

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>But when they become hyperactivated because we're under some sort

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>of stress, some sort of inflammatory response, usually within our gut,

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and we can get into that, it's going to trigger

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>it's going to trigger the glial cells to do too much,

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.479
<v Speaker 1>and so they will actually shut down more neurons than

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>they need to, and that actually slows processing speed within

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>our brain. Oh that is so well explained. Okay, So

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>we've got these little glial cells and they're doing their

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>thing and they're making everything nice. So I'm experiencing stress

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>brain fog, and now it's saying, oh boy, she she

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>can't handle all this. Let me shut down some neurons.

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's like the last thing I need. And so

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.959
<v Speaker 1>now I'm having trouble maybe with memory or I'm just

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>feeling a little bit unable to perform my tasks or

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>my job at the level I'm used to brain fog,

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and that is coming from some kind of stress either

0:30:55.680 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>in my body or emotional stress exactly right all together.

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>So now tell me about that connection with the gut. Yeah,

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>so this is the best part where we actually get

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>into that gut brain access gut brain connection. When we

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>are a fetus, we develop out if things called so mights. Okay,

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>so we've got literally these chunks of cells that are

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>stem cells that progenerate into different types of tissues, and

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the same so might that develops into our blood brain barrier,

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>literally the brain barrier that controls what blood can send

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>into the brain and what can come out, also develops

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing in the gut, and that is

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the gut lining that essentially is what protecting our body,

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>our human cells from what's living within the tube of

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>our intestines and our stomach and etcetera. And so the

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>lining of the gut and the lining of the blood

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>brain barrier come from the same things, meaning that if

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>we have some sort of reaction to microbiome imbalance. We

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>have some sort of food sensitivity that causes a leakiness

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>with the our gut, a breakdown of that lining within

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the gut. It will eventually create a breakdown of the

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>lining within the brain, and so that leads to inflammation

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>that can get into the brain, creating that glial cell activation,

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>creating brain fog, creating those challenges internally at a very

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>low microscopic level, but it does occur, and this is

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>something that's been proven time and time again in the science.

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>More recently then, I think, is serotonin produced in a

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>large intestine as well. Right of the serotonin within our

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>body is located within the gut and the gut lining.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So generally with the medication side of things, you're looking

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>at an SSRI I a selective serotonin a re uptake inhibitor,

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>meaning that the serotonin that gets released into the synapse

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>where the actual occurrence of these narrow transmitters occurs, where

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the chemical reaction is that the serotonin is sent out

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>into the synapse and the post synaptic membrane essentially where

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the signal is sent to. What we're trying to do

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>is keep more of the serotonin in the synapse. We're

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>not trying to reuptake or bring that serotonin back into

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the neural and so the inhibitors will create a state

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of more serotonin present within the synapse, within that gap area.

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes it's occurring because in certain cases there's a genetic

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>predisposition to not being able to produce serotonin, and in

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>some cases it's because you have a methylation issue that

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not able to break that serotonin down effectively. And

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>so there is a very common, very very real connection

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>between taking anti anxiety, anti depressive medications and the effect

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that it than has in the gut, because it's affecting

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that ninety four percent of serotonin located within the gut.

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Lining and talk to me about IBS and the vagat

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>nerve and mental health, because I always feel like a

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>few people have mentioned on this show that they themselves

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>had ibas and it was a direct line with panic attacks.

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>And and again, this is one of those things where

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>we're not saying it's in your head, you don't have IBS,

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and we're not saying, oh, it's your fault, you have it.

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 1>You need to you know, um meditate twice a day

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>and it'll go away. But but what is the connection there?

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>There is a middle point there for sure, and so

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that is linked to that serotonin that's located in the gut.

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Lining Just from from kind of a personal thing, I

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>really dislike the diagnosis irritable bowel syndr ome. Literally they're

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>telling you that your bowel is irritable, and you're the

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>one that told them that your bottler is are irritable.

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Whether it's conservation diarrhea, some sort of trigger um, so

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>they're just turning words to say that it's something called

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>IBS that said what's causing that? Right? Like? Why why

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>is there an imbalance? And that comes down to two

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>different things. Either you're not getting great signaling from your

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>brain through your vegas nerve to those intestines where they

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>can actually then go and do their job. Or second,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a microbiome inbalance that's triggering it. And so no

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>meditation twice a day is not going to solve it, right,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to affect it that well. We need

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to be able to identify why is it a combination

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of those two and in what state and what sense

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>is it a combination of those two. That's where the

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>testing really comes in handy. So when we have dysbiosis,

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 1>when we have a bacterial in balance, what's essentially happening

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>is that relationship between our bacteria and our human cells

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>is not as symbiotic as we want it to be,

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and that creates leakiness, and that creates those micro inflammation

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>things in that se of immune cells located in the

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>gut lining, the vagus nerve is going to signal to

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the intestines to keep food moving along peristalsis. And if

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't have that signal occurring, then we have stagnation.

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>We have things that either slow it down or speed

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>it up way too much, and that can lead to

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>diarrhea or constipation, and in some cases both either you're

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>completely on one side or you're completely on the other,

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.919
<v Speaker 1>or you flip back and forth, and so it's it's

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 1>generally a vagus nerve signal that not strong because you're

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>under it some sort of excessive stress that's burnt down

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the brakes and there's some sort of biochemical imbalance that's occurring.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's a chicken in the eggs scenario. It can

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 1>be vagus nerve only, it can be dis biosis only

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>by the when it's combined, that's when we really get

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>this diagnosis of IBS. And then because it's so heavily

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>linked to the serotonin levels and so heavily linked to

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>neurotransmitters and the entire nervous system, there's a heavy linked

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>between anxiety, depression and got health issues like IBS. So

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense because the vegas nerve has so many

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>things to monitor. If it's busy monitoring my suritable bowels,

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>as you say, it's not really what it is, but

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>which I appreciate it. I totally get that. Um I

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>hate the way some things are named. It makes me

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>crazy if I'm doing things, and we'll get to it

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to activate my vagus nerve if I am meditating and

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>do breathing. One thing that's helping is that it's decreasing

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>some of the stress on the vagus nerves, so that

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>in a way philosophically, it should be helping two distress

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that vagus nerves that has those worn outbreaks so that

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it can do its jobs. But we still have to

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>attend to the actual body part that it's affecting. But

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>if you are only attending to your IBS and you're

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>stressing about it, you know, maybe give yourself a little

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of a leg up by trying to reduce the

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>stress around your chronic illness. That's exactly right. It's counterintuitive

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to be stressed out about something while trying to fix it. Again,

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I think with the casual way that people throw around

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>things like mind body connection, I think when people are

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in that really sensitive state of stress around something physical,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it really sounds like someone is saying it's all in

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>your head, or the only way to solve it is

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in your head. And and so I'm glad we just

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>broke it down. So a couple other things in your

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>book that we're very interesting to me was the vegas

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>nerve and its effect on heart rate, breathing, vocal cords

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>even but there was one I just want to clear

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>this one up because you talk about someone having a

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>dysfunctional heart rate and someone who may faint, and you

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>say that you know, at that point the autonomic system

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>is unable to regulate the heart and blood vessels. Could

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>be genetic, could be some kind of outside trauma, like

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, a pregnancy or something. But so there are

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>there people that they don't just have what we have,

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>which is occasionally the vagus nerve has some worn down

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>brake pads, but they have a chronic thing that is

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>vegas nerves specific. Yeah, I wouldn't go as Yeah, I

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>think when you get into something like vasil vagel sync

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>could be where there's ing, where there's actual like pots.

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>For example, when you get up from a standing or

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>from a laying position into a standing position and you

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>have an immediate hypotension, meaning your blood pressure drops significantly.

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Because it's monitored through the vegas nerves, the vagus nerve

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>can't signal that information up. Then often people will have

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>balance issues, falling, fainting, etcetera. Um, I think it's just

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that's when there's actual physical breakdown of the vegas

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>nerve function. So it's a the brakes are borne down

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>even further but in a different area, so it's more

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 1>heart focused, more lung focused, rather than it being gut focused.

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And so those people may and again it may be

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>genetic like there's nothing they can't do about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't No, I would say that there is absolutely something

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<v Speaker 1>they can do about it, but sometimes the therapy needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bit more aggressive. It's probably the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to put that. Whether it's like a a stib

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>other type of therapy. Whether there's something else from like

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.479
<v Speaker 1>a functional neurological perspective that can be addressed to help

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild the brake pads in the other areas, we we

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<v Speaker 1>can go and do that. Genetically, there are some predisposition,

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<v Speaker 1>but genetics never pulls the trigger. Genetics only loads the gun, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I hear it way too often that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my family had this, so I'm going to have it.

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I have family history of this, so I'm yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>might be at a higher risk. Genetics really only plays

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<v Speaker 1>about a thirty role in the production of an issue

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<v Speaker 1>in the next generation. It's it's that's something that's been

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<v Speaker 1>proven over and over again. Now, but um, about of

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>what you are actually experiencing is because of your environment

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<v Speaker 1>and because of the stressors and how you respond to

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<v Speaker 1>those stressors emotional, psychological, biochemical, and physical. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I would say would probably be the best way to explain,

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like how to distinguish between genetics and environment is if

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what genetics are saying, then you can make

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<v Speaker 1>your environment do what it needs to do to support it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll continue the interview on the flip side of a

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<v Speaker 1>quick message from our sponsors. Lastly, Okay, so you talk

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>about in your book breathing incorrectly, which again is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to hear this out there in the anxiety world.

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 1>We want a quicker fix. But most of us can

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>be just breathing incorrectly, not even in a moment of panic,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>just the way we exist every minute of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm assuming we're hyperventilating ourselves by taking short, quick breaths,

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<v Speaker 1>is that is that what you mean by breathing incorrectly

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<v Speaker 1>in your to some extent, Yeah, exactly. If you watch

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>a newborn baby breathe, just have them laid down. Like

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>next time you're around somebody with a young baby, just

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>watch what they're doing when they're laying down, especially, watch

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>what the breathing pattern is. Check to see if their

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>lungs are expanding at their chest level or if it's

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>their belly that's going up and down. I guarantee you

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you will see it. It's their belly. Their belly is

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>rising and falling ever so slightly enough. But that's a

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 1>sign that we should be breathing in that pattern. Now

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of people breathe incorrectly often times that's something that we've

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>learned to do. Okay, So I see it in my kids.

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I have a five year old daughter, I have a

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>one year old daughter. I get anxious because of it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot myself, but I see, even with my five

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>year old that her breathing patterns have shifted into becoming

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot more chest based when we breathe with just

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>our chest muscles. And so i'll act. For example, I'll

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>get her to take a deep breath when she's getting

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>stressed out, when she gets riled up, she's at a

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>theme park or doesn't want to eat the food. She

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>gets into this hyper mentality state and she's just using

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>her upper back muscles for her accessory breathing muscles around

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.879
<v Speaker 1>her lungs, and she's sucking in her belly when she's

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to take in that deep breath. It's exactly paradoxical

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<v Speaker 1>to what we should be doing. If you watch the baby, right,

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the baby in their non stressed state is going to

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>be breathing with their belly. When we get into this

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 1>paradoxical breathing where we're actually sucking our diaphragm up, and

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>that's creating um, not a great vacuum. By which we

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>then can suck in air. It's a not allowing the

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>diaphragm to do the job that it needs to do.

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>The diaphragm is the primary breathing muscle, and so we

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>need to be breathing through a diaphragm first, no question

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 1>about it. That's the biggest thing that most people, both

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>within the anxiety world and well outside the anxiety of world,

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I should I assure you vast majority of breathing incorrectly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not you, it's what we've been taught. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>taught that big bellies are bad. We've been taught that

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<v Speaker 1>the when we're stressed, we have to kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>into the state. And it's a subconscious thing. It's not

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>something that we've been aware of. And so what we

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 1>need to do is retrain ourselves to get into the

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>state that Okay, we're in an anxious state. Close your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes for a second, and I'm sure you've heard this

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a billion times, but take a deep breath? Right? What

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:16.839
<v Speaker 1>does that mean when you say take a deep breath?

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Often times we're gonna go and we're gonna take that

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 1>deep breath in our chest and we're not doing it correctly.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>We need to breathe with our belly. So simple exercise

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:27.479
<v Speaker 1>for everybody to do. If you put your one hand

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>on your chest, one hand on your belly, and I

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>ask you to take a deep breath, but I want

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you to keep an eye on is which hand is

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<v Speaker 1>moving when you take that deep breath in, And the

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<v Speaker 1>answer should always be the hand that's on your belly.

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<v Speaker 1>It should expand as you breathe in, and it should

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<v Speaker 1>retract and go back in as you breathe out. What

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<v Speaker 1>that means is you're using your diet fram and so

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<v Speaker 1>if you can think of it this way. Even with

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>my five year old, I do this, so it tends

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<v Speaker 1>to work most of the time. I tell her we

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<v Speaker 1>have two balloons. We have a balloon in our chest

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a balloon in our belly. And when

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>she's stressed out, I asked her and I put my

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>hands on her belly. I get her to lie down.

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>If it can sure go with it, and I'll say,

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I want you to blow up this balloon over here,

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and I have to touch it so that she feels

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I wanted to come. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>she takes that deep breath in the first few times

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a chest breath, and I say no,

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<v Speaker 1>over here, we need to do it on your belly.

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And so we eventually, after three or four or five breaths,

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<v Speaker 1>will see all of a sudden, the breath is shifting

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>into the belly and we're expending that balloon. So I

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.399
<v Speaker 1>want everybody as a very simple visualization, as a really

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>easy tool. We don't want to inflate this balloon. We

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 1>want to inflate the balloon below. What it's going to

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>do is it's going to create a vacuum within our

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<v Speaker 1>diaphragm and we're actually gonna inflate the lungs. Further. What

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that's going to do is when the diaphragm is going

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<v Speaker 1>up and down the way it should be, that is

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<v Speaker 1>actually creating this signal in the vagus nerve. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>physically prodding the vagus nerve to say, we are in

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<v Speaker 1>a calm state, and now you can turn on Now

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<v Speaker 1>you can do your rest digestive recover work. You can

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.919
<v Speaker 1>turn on the digestive system again, you can turn on

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the anti inflammatory system again. The breath truly is the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this. What we want to do is allow

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<v Speaker 1>us to shift into this parasympathetic belly breathing state and

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<v Speaker 1>train our bodies to be able to do so. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the breathing pattern is going to positively affect

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<v Speaker 1>your vagus nerve activation in which state you're in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the first ten years of my anxiety recovery, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>told me to take deep breaths, and most people did

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<v Speaker 1>not explain to me how to do it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>finally learned. But for me, uh, that created an extra

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 1>anxiety for me in that I didn't trust it. You know,

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 1>you get obsessed with feeling the air in your lungs

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<v Speaker 1>almost and think the only way to do it is

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. I just did go and I lift

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<v Speaker 1>up my shoulders, and it took a while for me

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to transition from not being so obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with feeling that completion um which you still can get

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>from diaforgmatic breathing. But I would have to calm down

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>first some other way, and then I would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do diaphorgumatic breathing because I was. I don't know,

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I just trained myself wrong for for so many years.

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<v Speaker 1>What I love about your book and I'll leave everyone

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.439
<v Speaker 1>with this to get it on their own. So few

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>books do this. They'll say, oh, do this exercise you

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<v Speaker 1>really spell it out at the end chapter. Here, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got weekly practices for activating the vegas nerve. You tell

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 1>people how many times a week they should do it.

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Monthly practices, and you know when you talk about social

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<v Speaker 1>interactions one to two times weekly, listening to music, meditation,

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and mindfulness practice three to seven times weekly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are things that you can incorporate into what you're

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>already doing, you know, right before you go to bed

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And now that we know how

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>much the vagus nerve controls and all the stress that

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it has, I'm hoping that people understand how important it

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>is to do these things, not just when we're feeling stressed,

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was my point exactly. Yeah, it's something that needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be practiced and and built out as like a day

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>to day practice. So even if you go back one page,

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<v Speaker 1>there's even the daily practices there as well, which talks

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<v Speaker 1>about gargling and humming and gag reflex activation if you

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 1>want to go that far, Like there's there's quite a

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 1>few things that we can do that we can simply

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>tie to, like brushing our teeth, for example, when brush

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>your teeth, then gargle. Here's a great like thirty second

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>add onto what you're already doing. If we can piggyback

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these newer habits onto older habits, make

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>it an easy thing that it becomes a practice that

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>we can do on a regular basis. And this is

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 1>where the compound effect really truly comes into play within

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>our body. If we can be consistent and regular with

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>these things, you can create really positive changes. All right,

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>And as almost I have some exercises for you, dr

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<v Speaker 1>have you when I were talking a little bit off

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike after rerecorded, and he said that something he's training

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<v Speaker 1>himself to do is to turn the shower on extremely

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>cold at the end of the shower. And you know

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>how if you do that, you normally tense up, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he's relaxing and doing you know, calm breathing exercises

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>during that, because bursts of cold like that and staying

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:32.839
<v Speaker 1>calm through it are really good for the vegas nerve.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wish I could do that. I can't believe,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Usually there's nothing I within reason won't try,

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's within reason, but I can't bring

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>myself to do it, but that's something you could try

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>if you aren't terrified of things that are freezing on

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>your skin. There are some daily practices you can do

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to activate the vegas nerve that you might be doing already.

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 1>But gargling. Um. You can gargle twice a day when

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>you brush your teeth in the morning and at night. Humming.

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.919
<v Speaker 1>You can hum on your daily commute to bookend your day.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice humming deep in your throat and your day with

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<v Speaker 1>a cold shower. Start with um, you know, just thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it becomes easier, increase the time by thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds to sixty seconds every three days, until maybe even

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>your entire shower is taken under cold water. Something you

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>can do daily is practice three to five minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>deep breathing in a quiet space before each meal. This

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<v Speaker 1>will help you calm down and improve your digestion. Sunlight exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>Go out and expose your skin to the sun within

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes of sunrise in the middle of the day

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<v Speaker 1>and within thirty minutes of sunset for at least a

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.720
<v Speaker 1>minimum of five minutes. And you can put a pillow

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>between your knees to keep you firmly sleeping on your

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>side each night. Those are daily practices that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do to activate the vagus nerve, and if you have

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>time during the week, yoga pilates are light exercise, any

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of abbit of movement. Sweating is important. Social interaction,

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe don't sweat um and then go meet your friends,

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>take one of those cold showers in between. Make a

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>point to meet with friends or family in person at

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>least once a week. Laugh as much as you can.

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Listen to music at least a few times a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Do grocery shopping, do cleaning one to two times weekly,

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and a meditation and mindfulness practice five to ten minutes

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a day at least three times a week and monthly.

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<v Speaker 1>Check into massage therapy, chiropractic care, acupuncture treatment are all

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>great for stimulating the vegas nerve. So let's get into

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the specific takeaways from this episode. So the Vegas nerve

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 1>v A g U S connect to so many different places.

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<v Speaker 1>It was named Vegas as it comes from the root

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>word vague, meaning wandering. The Vegas nerve comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Medulla Oblanca. It has different branches that go to

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different areas. Like all of the other

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>twelve cranial nerves. They hit areas in the head and

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<v Speaker 1>the face. It sends a bunch to the ear for

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<v Speaker 1>skin sensation. It sends branches to the throat, the parynx

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<v Speaker 1>and the larynx. Those are the muscles at the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the throat that allow the airway to remain open.

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<v Speaker 1>It helps to push and pull the vocal cord, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the vagus nerve is what gives us the pitch

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<v Speaker 1>and the tone in our voice. The nerve continues down

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<v Speaker 1>and choruses in the neck beside the carotid artery and

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<v Speaker 1>the jugular vein. It also innervates the heart to control

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<v Speaker 1>the heart rate. It goes to the lungs to monitor

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<v Speaker 1>the breath rate. It supports the inflammation response in all

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<v Speaker 1>of these organs, and it continues on down with the

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<v Speaker 1>esophagus and through the diaphragm into our abdomen, and it

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<v Speaker 1>innervates essentially every single organ in the entire stomach, the spleen,

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<v Speaker 1>the kidneys that liver, the small intestine, in the large intestine,

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<v Speaker 1>and innervate means to supply an organ or a body

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<v Speaker 1>part with nerves. There is no other nerve even the

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<v Speaker 1>body that does anything like the vagus nerve. The vegas

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<v Speaker 1>nerve is very important. If it gets severed, the function

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<v Speaker 1>of our body is going to be severely limited. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not worrisome if anything happens to the nerve, but trauma

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<v Speaker 1>or injury to it would create significant challenges to people.

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<v Speaker 1>The parasympathetic nervous system, which is our rest and digest

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<v Speaker 1>is signaled through the vegas nerve. The vegas nerve can

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<v Speaker 1>be thought of as having more of a thermostat type

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<v Speaker 1>function than a signaling out from the brain function. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Dr Habib's book, quote, one of the most likely

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<v Speaker 1>low grade stressors that you may not be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>is the bacteria lining um and living in and around you.

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<v Speaker 1>The population of bacteria living in your gut and on

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<v Speaker 1>your skin has a significant effect on us, and if

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<v Speaker 1>that population isn't optimally balanced, it can be a major

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<v Speaker 1>stressor on your body. End quote. The science of gut

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<v Speaker 1>health is that if there is um I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>mess up this word again, microbiome imbalance dys biosis is

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<v Speaker 1>going on within the gut and that effects gut health

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<v Speaker 1>and causes an inflammatory reaction which can affect autoimmune conditions

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<v Speaker 1>and mental health. Not all bacteria and parasites in our

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<v Speaker 1>gut are good, and we need to protect ourselves from

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<v Speaker 1>it and give our immune system the right tools to

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<v Speaker 1>handle the threats. And that comes down to diet and

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<v Speaker 1>even breathing. And that's due to the vagus nerve activity

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<v Speaker 1>because the vagus nerve is supplying information to the gut,

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<v Speaker 1>lining the inflammatory cells that control an anti inflammatory system,

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<v Speaker 1>and the gut is controlled through the vagus nerve. What

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<v Speaker 1>can exacerbate issues is that the vagus nerve is under

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<v Speaker 1>too much pressure. In the same way that our car

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<v Speaker 1>brake pads wear out, the vagus nerve can get overworked.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're constantly providing inflammatory challenges to the body, the

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<v Speaker 1>brakes are going to wear out. The vagus nerve can't

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<v Speaker 1>handle a ton of constant chronic lammatory issues that are

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<v Speaker 1>constantly coming up, and over time, the tone is going

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<v Speaker 1>to decrease. The ability for the nerve to send signals

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis is going to lessen. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to do the exercises that provide the vaguest nerve and

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do the work that it needs to do

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<v Speaker 1>without providing more chronic inflammatory reactions on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>When we do deep breathing or meditation or gut health detoxes,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing is decreasing the inflammatory triggers and giving

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<v Speaker 1>the body a chance to heal itself. Inflammation is our

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<v Speaker 1>body's response to trauma and stress in different ways. There

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<v Speaker 1>are four different types of stressors that can trigger inflammatory responses.

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<v Speaker 1>Emotional stress that can lead to brain fog and inability

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<v Speaker 1>to think clearly and memory challenges. Psychological stress different than

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<v Speaker 1>emotional stress because psychological is related more to the past,

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges we experienced as children that color the way

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<v Speaker 1>we see the world today. Physical stress. This could be

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<v Speaker 1>something literal like a car accident cause whip flash, but

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<v Speaker 1>basically acute inflammatory is necessary, but it means that cells

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<v Speaker 1>are being repaired, but any extra inflammatory action is going

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<v Speaker 1>to cause physical stress. Biochemical stress. This can be food sensitivities,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're allergic to gluten or dairy, or pesticides that

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<v Speaker 1>are sprayed on foods and organic laundry detergent, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people don't breathe correctly. If you observe a newborn

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<v Speaker 1>baby breathing, their belly is rising and falling naturally. Adults

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<v Speaker 1>breathing correctly, and they use their upper back muscles and

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<v Speaker 1>accessory breathing muscles, which causes a hyperventilated state. The diaphragm

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<v Speaker 1>is the primary breathing muscle and so we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be breathing through our diaphragm first. That's it. That's all

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