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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harris, Lauren Zima coming to you from almost the

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Speaker 1: home office. Well we are in Austin, Texas, but not

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Speaker 1: the home office today we are this is kind of

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Speaker 1: an away game here in.

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Speaker 2: Austin, here in the Deer Media studios with our new

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Speaker 2: friends Lauren and Michael of Skinny Confidential Fame, the Him

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Speaker 2: and Her show authors, owners of Deer Media.

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Speaker 3: Just absolutely.

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Speaker 1: They also have they set up a lemonade stand just

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Speaker 1: down the STU. You get some on the way into

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Speaker 1: their valley parking. Now, is there is there a section

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Speaker 1: of the commerce you guys have not gotten into.

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Speaker 4: You you should have bought the building and gone a valet.

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Speaker 4: Where is the lemonade gre We.

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Speaker 5: Were saying, we have not yet got into the only

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Speaker 5: fans world. But that's our that's our maybe part.

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Speaker 3: If I'm looking at waits.

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Speaker 1: Feet, Oh you have good feet.

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Speaker 6: You can do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just do some footwork.

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Speaker 2: We say this all the time. I'm like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's always only fans. Why is only hands the backup plan?

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Speaker 1: It really is everyone's backup plan.

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Speaker 6: Now, maybe it should be the main plan.

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Speaker 1: Right when you consider what some of these women are

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Speaker 1: raking in. It's like, holy count.

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Speaker 7: It's wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not all just sexual, like they're like

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Speaker 4: some people just want to see Larza Pippen's feet.

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Speaker 1: I saw someone the other day that they're like one

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Speaker 1: customer alone had spent like six figures on this woman's site,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's just it was amazing.

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Speaker 7: You, Lauren.

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Speaker 4: You should go on and use your voice and like

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Speaker 4: put people to sleep while they meditate.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, that's so nice.

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Speaker 2: And that feels like a nice benign OnlyFans, like an

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Speaker 2: ASMR OnlyFans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of many things I think is sexy about

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Speaker 1: Lauren Zima's her voice. I love Wow, I told you

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Speaker 1: you can you can put and it's not a bad

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Speaker 1: thing when I say you could put me to sleep

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Speaker 1: at night when she just speaks.

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Speaker 4: That's a nice compliment coming from him too, because I

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Speaker 4: feel like he's heard every voice on the planet.

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Speaker 1: It's true as I'm glad, well, I've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of vocal fry over the last twenty years, tape at night,

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Speaker 1: which is what I want for her because her voice

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Speaker 1: at night is like a screeching eagle.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you guys, I need to ask you about

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Speaker 2: the mouth tape. At first, I just want to say

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Speaker 2: we're so excited to be doing this because you too

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Speaker 2: live here in Austin.

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Speaker 3: We live here in Austin.

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like we should have met before

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Speaker 2: this point, but I'm glad it's happening.

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Speaker 1: So what we're doing today is we're gonna do a

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Speaker 1: little house swap. Basically, we're gonna do a little podcast swap.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Laura and Michael, and then

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Speaker 1: I will be on their Dear Media podcast as well,

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Speaker 1: Skinny Confidential. So I'm looking forward to being grilled. But

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Speaker 1: right now we're up in the DJ.

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Speaker 3: Booth and we have a lot to talk to you

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Speaker 3: guys about.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask about your love story because our

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Speaker 2: show is all about relationships and you have a very

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Speaker 2: different love story than we do. I want to ask

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Speaker 2: about parenting, about working together because we all do that.

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Speaker 2: But first I want to ask about mouth tape.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because let's get right to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get right to it, Lauren, I mean, our producer

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Speaker 2: Kendall DMed me. She's like, if you're please, don't please

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Speaker 2: ask about the mouth tape.

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Speaker 4: I needed to do it. I have a secret stash

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Speaker 4: because it's sold out and I won't give you some

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Speaker 4: mouth tape to try it to.

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Speaker 3: So you've become known for my mouth tape. You now

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Speaker 3: have your own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you give a brief cliffs notes on what

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Speaker 2: it does and why it's so important.

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Speaker 4: So I was introduced to mouth tape from Andrew Huberman. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, Oh, like he's okay. I say that,

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Speaker 4: Everyone's like, oh okay. He he told me about mouth tape,

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Speaker 4: and then Claire Greaves, who's another influencer, told me. And

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Speaker 4: then we had this incredible dentist on who was like

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Speaker 4: telling us all the benefits. And they all said that

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Speaker 4: it's so good for breath, because you get bad breath

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Speaker 4: if your mouth is hanging open at night. They said,

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Speaker 4: it's amazing for cavities. They said, it's amazing to breathe

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Speaker 4: through your nose for your nervous system. And so I

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Speaker 4: much energy I was waking up with. And then I

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Speaker 4: started researching it. And there's this book from the nineteen

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Speaker 4: twenties called Shut your Mouth, Save your Life. There's another

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Speaker 4: book called Jaws that's from the nineteen eighties. It's all

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Speaker 4: about the importance of breathing through your nose. And then

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Speaker 4: there's a book that you, guys, I'm sure everyone's read

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Speaker 4: this book or seen it in Breath by James Nestor,

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Speaker 4: and we need to be breathing through our notes. So

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Speaker 4: I just kept doing it every single night, and I

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Speaker 4: started to like find that not only was I having

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Speaker 4: all these health benefits, but there was.

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Speaker 7: A beauty angle.

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Speaker 4: I My jaw was strengthened because it was supported all night.

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Speaker 7: So I noticed like the muscles in my face.

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Speaker 4: Getting like it was bizarre, and I started to think

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Speaker 4: about it, and it is so true. Where you put

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Speaker 4: your tongue all night. If your mouth is hanging open,

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Speaker 4: your gravity, you're looking older and older and older as like,

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Speaker 4: as you keep doing it.

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Speaker 7: Gravity and you're supporting your tongue all night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what we learned talking to so many of the

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Speaker 5: experts that have con our show is many people have

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Speaker 5: tongue posture issue, which is why at night some people

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Speaker 5: you know, you can many probably think about this. You

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Speaker 5: kind of create that slack jaw look, and a lot

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Speaker 5: of people are going and getting chin implants or nose jobs,

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Speaker 5: but really it's proper tongue posture and making sure that

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Speaker 5: your jaw is in the right place when you're sleeping. Also,

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Speaker 5: from to Lawrence's point, from an energy perspective, if you're

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Speaker 5: sleeping that way, you're not going to sleep as efficiently.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you, Lauren, though, just by looking at

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Speaker 4: your face, I can tell your nose breather right, you

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Speaker 4: breathe through your nose.

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Speaker 2: I mean I try to, but I don't know about it.

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Speaker 7: And it's weird.

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Speaker 4: Your nervous system like relaxes into it. It's comfortable.

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Speaker 7: I know, it's sounds szarre.

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Speaker 1: Did it take you a while to get used to it?

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Speaker 1: Because I think the idea for some people of cutting off.

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Speaker 3: Am I going to suffocate myself?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean you're not tying each other up. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do that too, which is to.

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Speaker 6: Well, think about it this way.

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Speaker 5: We can all picture a dog breathing in their mouth

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Speaker 5: and like in humans, I mean that from an energy

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Speaker 5: perspective is not good.

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Speaker 6: But you humans are designed.

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Speaker 5: To breathe through our nose, and even from an immune function,

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Speaker 5: standpoint where our noses are designed to filter germs and

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Speaker 5: all sorts of stuff out of our system, or at

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Speaker 5: least protect us from those things coming in. And when

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Speaker 5: you're breathing through your mouth all the time, one it's

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Speaker 5: it's not as efficient from an airway passage, but two

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Speaker 5: like you're you're in fiting more disease and virus into

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Speaker 5: your system. Where if you learn to breathe, if you

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Speaker 5: look at young kids when they're born, they breathe through

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Speaker 5: their nose. We just forget how to do that as adults.

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Speaker 7: But yes, it can be. I can understand how.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit daunting at first, but once you

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Speaker 4: do it for a month, you'll I called room service

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Speaker 4: because I forgot my mouth tape and I was like,

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Speaker 4: can you bring me masking tape? Like I can't sleep

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Speaker 3: So you're some.

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Speaker 1: Duct tape, some wires, some handcuffs and do you guys

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Speaker 1: at call and some lime like what?

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Speaker 2: So your body adjusts, You just breathe your nose. But

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Speaker 2: here's my relationship question part of it. What happens when

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Speaker 2: you two are lying next to each.

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Speaker 7: Other, and it's amazing you do what I.

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Speaker 3: Want to do to him? Which is like he's half asleep.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, baby, baby, do you ever think like,

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Speaker 2: can you make it for a second?

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Speaker 3: Do you ever think are we so? Has this been

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Speaker 3: good for your relationships?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: What about that that last question you get at the

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Speaker 1: end of the night of are we really in love?

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Speaker 7: Do you really love me? You can just shake your head.

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Speaker 5: We did a joke party video when we launched the

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Speaker 5: mouth tip, when she launched the mouth tape, and it

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Speaker 5: was like basically this, yeah, shutting you up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he talks more than me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually it's the kind of opposite with us. Actually, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: she's the opposite he is. He's talking about quick books

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Speaker 4: at eleven. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, the show is

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Speaker 4: over the Broadway, curtains are closed.

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Speaker 7: My personality is turned off.

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Speaker 1: I say, I run out of words. I've run out

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Speaker 1: She's just starting.

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Speaker 7: There's a mouth tape on. There's an excuse.

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Speaker 5: I love this, to be honest, though not much has

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Speaker 5: changed because she never responded. Even without the mouth tape,

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Speaker 5: I would just, you know, just kind of rapid fire

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Speaker 6: Sometimes I just need to hear myself talk, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: You wo So now we know there's one in every relationship.

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Speaker 3: Mikel and I are.

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Speaker 5: On the same page in the same relationship. I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, we'll talk about that later, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: So you guys live here in Austin now, as do we.

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Speaker 1: We just figured out we're about the same amount of time.

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Speaker 1: Last two years, about twenty twenty or so, pandemic hit.

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Speaker 1: Many people were getting the f out of California. Is

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Speaker 1: that kind of what hit you guys?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know, we had our first child in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: And I should start by saying Lorren and I were

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Speaker 5: born and raised in California, in San Diego, and we've

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Speaker 5: spent a lot of time in LA and obviously seen

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Speaker 5: and a lot of our family's still there. I think

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Speaker 5: for us, as many others, when the quality of life

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Speaker 5: the things that you had access to, whether it be

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Speaker 5: like the outdoors, yeah, like the outdoors, shut the outdoors, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and then when you realize in a minute, yes, I'm

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Speaker 5: in a massive city. And for us, the realization was

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Speaker 5: also like we were not in the best shape. We

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Speaker 5: bone in terms of work, we were drinking more alcohol.

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Speaker 5: I mean, LA's a social city, you guys know, and

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Speaker 5: the reason why we haven't met is there's like blinders

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Speaker 5: on health, wellness, take care of our children, stay focused,

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Speaker 2: You know, timing is so important, but it's like we

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Speaker 5: That's why I draw the good because about half the

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Speaker 7: Know that a lot of parents are doing anal. I

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Speaker 7: My mindset is like you rally, like it's my husband,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's creepy or sexy.

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Speaker 5: If you want to know, we got some pushback on

444
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Speaker 5: the show. If you want to know one of the

445
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,359
Speaker 5: keys in the marriage. I think like when either of

446
00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,440
Speaker 5: us want sex, we both like we want to make

447
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,640
Speaker 5: sure that we're getting each other sex right.

448
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Speaker 6: Like.

449
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Speaker 5: Sex is a big part of any healthy relationship in

450
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Speaker 5: our opinion, and we talk about this a lot. So

451
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,760
Speaker 5: many people put so much focus on their business or

452
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,240
Speaker 5: their parenting or what they're doing for their health. Very

453
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Speaker 5: few people actually approach sex in the same way and

454
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Speaker 5: say I'm gonna actually approach this the same way I

455
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Speaker 5: approach the other ears in my life. And people need intimacy.

456
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Speaker 5: I mean, like if what I would say is like

457
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Speaker 5: if we're not intimate with each other. Why aren't we

458
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Speaker 5: just roommates and friends?

459
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Speaker 2: Like right, It's also amazing how when you have sex,

460
00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,160
Speaker 2: like doesn't everything just kind of feel better right away?

461
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Speaker 4: Connect It's like he's so much less irritable. And I'm like, oh,

462
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,560
Speaker 4: I should have done this three days ago.

463
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Speaker 7: It's so annoying. It just takes it all away.

464
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Speaker 3: I'm really glad you brought up the skincare thing.

465
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Speaker 2: Well, there's this movement now, like on TikTok, it's like

466
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Speaker 2: the stay at home girlfriend thing where now there's this

467
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Speaker 2: movement towards women going back to being traditional wives, Like

468
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Speaker 2: we're circling back, let's be stay at home you know

469
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Speaker 2: all that again. And one thing like is this thing

470
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Speaker 2: of there was I was reading about this woman. She's

471
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Speaker 2: very like, no, I wait till my husband goes to sleep,

472
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Speaker 2: and then I get up and like do all of

473
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Speaker 2: my skincare, and then I wake up before him in

474
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Speaker 2: the morning and I put all my makeup on, like

475
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Speaker 2: it's very nineteen fifties again.

476
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Speaker 3: Oh, And I'm just that is so much effort.

477
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Speaker 7: It's a lot of work.

478
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of weird to do that anyway, But

479
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Speaker 1: it's just because you have a different life than I do.

480
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like for your job, you probably have to wake

481
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Speaker 7: up really early.

482
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Speaker 1: Do either of you know? I get up, she'll sleep

483
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Speaker 1: in a little bit. I get up early. She likes

484
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Speaker 1: to stay up late. I'm not a stay up late guy.

485
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Speaker 4: Okay for the.

486
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Speaker 1: Most part, I mean more night.

487
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Speaker 3: Al he's more early.

488
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Speaker 1: A lot of times I'll go to sleep, she will

489
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Speaker 1: get up and lives a whole.

490
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Speaker 2: Different But I'm not putting I tell you something that

491
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Speaker 2: is so healthy for your relationship because I also think

492
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Speaker 2: and you guys would know, you especially would know better

493
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Speaker 2: than I would.

494
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Speaker 7: But you need space in your marriage.

495
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Speaker 4: Like if you can't give the person space and you're suffocating,

496
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Speaker 4: it's too much. Like I think that's nice that you

497
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Speaker 4: have your mornings and you have your nights.

498
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Speaker 7: It's healthy.

499
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Speaker 1: Well, it's one of the things I was early on.

500
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Speaker 1: You were much better at that than me and brought

501
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Speaker 1: that into our relationship early on. Of Like I have

502
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Speaker 1: my girlfriends I have, I want to have my time

503
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Speaker 1: with them. You know, all of your stuff doesn't need

504
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: to become my stuff all the time. Like I love Golfer. Example,

505
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Speaker 1: She's like, I'm not going to love golf. I don't

506
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Speaker 1: need to love golf. I don't care. That's your thing,

507
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Speaker 1: and I support that and I love that for you.

508
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Speaker 7: Cool.

509
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Speaker 1: So we've always been good about that. If you gut y'all. Still,

510
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Speaker 1: as parents with young kids, are you able to maintain

511
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Speaker 1: your independence like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think something that works the best in our marriage

514
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 7: is we're codependent. I will say that. But within the

515
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 7: codependency is independency. Does that make sense?

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Like a perfect example is we're in these offices and

518
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Speaker 5: a lot of people look at Laura and I and

519
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 5: they see the show and they think we're working together,

520
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 5: and we do things together all the time. We each

521
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 5: run completely separate companies with separate teams and in separate roles.

522
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Speaker 5: The show is something we decided to do together to

523
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Speaker 5: have something to work on together. And of course we're

524
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Speaker 5: in a marriage and so as a household, we're trying

525
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Speaker 5: to figure out what is best for ourselves and family

526
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Speaker 5: and the companies are involved with. But like the office

527
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Speaker 5: we're sitting in today, I ran off and did my

528
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Speaker 5: own thing with our old team, and she goes off

529
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Speaker 5: and does her thing, and so we have our own independence.

530
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Speaker 5: And then I think the way it works in our

531
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Speaker 5: marriage is we come back and we have stuff to

532
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Speaker 5: talk about and share with each other that is from

533
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Speaker 5: our completely separate lives, which is the stuff.

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Speaker 4: I also think that you require a very specific finesse,

535
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 4: meaning like I can tell when I need to take

536
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Speaker 4: my foot off his neck, like I can tell when

537
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 4: like oh, you can tell tell. I can tell when

538
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Speaker 4: you need to go upstairs and like write in your

539
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Speaker 4: journal or read like I can tell and like get

540
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Speaker 4: out of my hair, go upstairs, go take a sauna.

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Speaker 7: I know when he needs to take a like get well.

542
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Speaker 5: I would classify all three of you and just meeting

543
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Speaker 5: all three learning, but I would classify all three of

544
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Speaker 5: you as like you are comfortable as entertainers and being

545
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Speaker 5: out there and extra.

546
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Speaker 6: Rights.

547
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Speaker 5: I'm somebody that I need to be alone with my

548
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Speaker 5: thoughts and away from people a lot of the time,

549
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Speaker 5: and I always feel like I'm walking hypocritsm. The's like

550
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Speaker 5: part of me is like I'm doing the show and like, hey,

551
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Speaker 5: listen to me. But the other part is I need

552
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 5: to get away, even from her, and I'll go upstairs

553
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Speaker 5: and just sit and read books for hours and hours

554
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Speaker 5: and like write and be interest space.

555
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Speaker 7: It's very cerebral.

556
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Speaker 5: But I if I don't get that time, then I'm

557
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Speaker 5: just I'm not I'm not the best because I just

558
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Speaker 5: I feel like I need to be in my own

559
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Speaker 5: space and alone.

560
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Speaker 7: It like when he starts ruminating, I'm like, nope, out.

561
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Speaker 5: Part of my dream is, hey, we just won a

562
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Speaker 5: huge award show for a great show. And the other

563
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Speaker 5: part of my dream is can I move to the

564
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Speaker 5: middle of a mountainside and see nobody ever again?

565
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I so understand this, though I feel well.

566
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Speaker 2: I think what's interesting about, like when we're all of

567
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Speaker 2: us being in this business now, is how rapidly it's

568
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Speaker 2: all changed. Right, Like I say this all the time,

569
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Speaker 2: But I studied journalism in college. By the time I graduated,

570
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Speaker 2: the Internet was changing everything. And then a couple years

571
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Speaker 2: later social media really changed everything. And then like you know,

572
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Speaker 2: and everybody had a phone in their hands.

573
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Speaker 3: So it's just all changed so much.

574
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Speaker 2: And I like grapple a lot with on the one time,

575
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Speaker 2: On the one hand, I love entertaining people and like

576
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Speaker 2: making people laugh and making people happy. But on the

577
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Speaker 2: other hand, I never really like as a kid, I

578
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: didn't dream of sharing my whole life with everybody. And

579
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Speaker 2: what's really interesting is the thing that I used to

580
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Speaker 2: have to like interview people about on red.

581
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: Carpets, which is their personal life.

582
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Speaker 2: The actors and actors, that's what they hated talking about

583
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: the most. They're like, please don't ask me about my divorce.

584
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the project. But now it's

585
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 2: like this actual part of the job.

586
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Speaker 3: Like, do you guys ever because you share so much?

587
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Speaker 3: Do you, especially you being the way you are Michael,

588
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Speaker 3: But you're an overshare grapple with how much you're going

589
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: to share and debate that it's weird.

590
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Speaker 4: I am an oversharer, but I also love privacy, which

591
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 4: is the Gemini, So I get what both of you

592
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Speaker 4: guys are saying.

593
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Speaker 7: I love having.

594
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Speaker 4: Privacy, Like when I'm off and I'm with my kids,

595
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Speaker 4: I'm off and I think that I don't always want

596
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Speaker 4: to be on, so I do grapple with that. I

597
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: think that you have to have buckets, Like I know

598
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Speaker 4: when I'm putting my hat on to like perform, and

599
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: then I know when I'm putting my hat on to

600
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Speaker 4: like just be a mom and just have like a normal,

601
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Speaker 4: easy private life.

602
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Speaker 7: I appreciate that.

603
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Speaker 4: One thing I like about Austin is you know, I'll

604
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 4: go outside looking like like the ugliest thing you've ever

605
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: seen to take a walk in the morning. But it's

606
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: like so nice here because it's just like there's there's

607
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 4: a there's a an energy that people just don't really care.

608
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 4: In la It's like it's a little more like you

609
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 4: have to like be buttoned.

610
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 7: Up to go outside. I kind of just like that.

611
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 7: It's not really about the way you look here, what

612
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 7: you're wearing. It's there's something that's like refreshing about.

613
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Speaker 5: I however, won't go out without a full get up.

614
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 5: I'm like stick back, ready to go.

615
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually true.

616
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Speaker 6: I'm like she's got her rat jacket on. You know.

617
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Speaker 4: No.

618
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Speaker 5: But you know, I think one thing for Lauren and

619
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Speaker 5: I with our show is we started it with a

620
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Speaker 5: different approach, which is we don't come from I guess,

621
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Speaker 5: quote unquote traditional entertainment. It's when we started the show,

622
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Speaker 5: it was really like a share all be or like

623
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Speaker 5: it was a different time.

624
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Speaker 2: Right.

625
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Speaker 5: It's two thousand and sixteen when we started, and I

626
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Speaker 5: think what we realized is like if we just weren't

627
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Speaker 5: always the way we are, we could not continue to

628
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Speaker 5: carry it on. Because it would be a hard thing

629
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Speaker 5: for us to cure.

630
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Speaker 6: Does that make sense. We didn't have scriptwriters, we didn't

631
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 6: have a producers, and we didn't have a team. It

632
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 6: was just us.

633
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Speaker 5: And so my perspective is, if you're not willing to

634
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: share it, like everything, then you might as well not

635
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 5: do it at all. And there's certain things we're private

636
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Speaker 5: with which I'll be like, we're not sharing where our kids.

637
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Speaker 4: Are, or I'm not also like putting my kids first

638
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: steps or.

639
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 6: Like, but I'm not. I'm personally not every.

640
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 7: Day like I'll show like here and there, I'm real specific.

641
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Speaker 5: Yes, what I'm saying is I'm not precious about what

642
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 5: people know about certain like I don't want to like

643
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 5: go and post my home address everywhere when my kids

644
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 5: go to school. But other than that, like I'm kind

645
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: of an open book.

646
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Speaker 1: Do you see? Lauren and I were having this debate.

647
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Speaker 1: We always debate, Well, one of us is in the shower.

648
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Speaker 1: We're always talking in the bathroom. Our best talks.

649
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Speaker 3: Well, you're right, I just we do. We have our

650
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: best talks in the bathroom.

651
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Speaker 1: That's where we need to start podcasting.

652
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Speaker 7: You guys should podcast from the bathroom.

653
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Speaker 1: You know. But Lauren brought this question up, and I'm

654
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Speaker 1: going to pose it to you. I do you see

655
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Speaker 1: a time, Lauren that this goes away? You know, it's

656
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: definitely evolved where influencers and people making a living And

657
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: I've watched this on The Bachelor, where it was there

658
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: was nothing, it was naivete and there was no bounce

659
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: for being on the show. Then all of a sudden

660
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of getting some hype and

661
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: doing some endorsement stuff. Then there were flat out influencers,

662
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Speaker 1: which is what you know, and these people made a

663
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Speaker 1: living off of it, which is kind of where we

664
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Speaker 1: are now. But do you see it changing? And is

665
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Speaker 1: this going to end at some.

666
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Speaker 2: Point like well people retire from being on social media?

667
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Speaker 2: Do you think or are we all going to like

668
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: this is forever and we're in our eighties and we're

669
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Speaker 2: like now we're in the retirement house together.

670
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Speaker 4: I think influencers are going to be there's going to

671
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Speaker 4: be them more and more and more, and it's not

672
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Speaker 4: going to be as exclusive as it was. Yes, I

673
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Speaker 4: think it's going to be like not a member. Andy

674
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Speaker 4: Warhol said, like everyone's going to have their fifteen minutes

675
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Speaker 4: of fame, Like I think everyone will have their fifteen

676
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: minutes of fame. As far as what to do, in

677
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Speaker 4: my opinion, to be strategic, I am evolved evolving and

678
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: evolved into an entrepreneur, into building a I'm not. I

679
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: don't want to post pictures of myself in the mirror

680
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: at fifty years old and listen, by the way, if

681
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: you do, that's great. I want to build a business

682
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: and a company, and I think you just have to.

683
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: You have to be thoughtful about what you want. If

684
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Speaker 4: you want to be taking pictures at fifty, I do.

685
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: I think there will be people taking pictures at fifty.

686
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: For me, I definitely want to have a pivot and

687
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: an evolution of where the brand isn't Lauren Bostic, it's

688
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: the brand standing on its own. It just depends what

689
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: you want.

690
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Speaker 6: I think.

691
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Speaker 5: I think putting an entertainment quote unquote executive hat on,

692
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 5: we would have to be rather naive to think that

693
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 5: this would just last forever, right like we're I think

694
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 5: we're we're looking at it as we're grateful for as

695
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 5: long as people find us entertaining or educate whatever they

696
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 5: find us. But we all know stars from the eighties

697
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 5: that you just never hear from again, it's very rare

698
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 5: to see people last deck decade.

699
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Speaker 2: I think it's very easy, easier than ever to get famous.

700
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: People sometimes don't process how hard it is to stay famous.

701
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 7: That's what you know how hard it is because you've

702
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 7: done it.

703
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: It's not because I'm in my fifties.

704
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Speaker 7: You don't want to take me your selfie.

705
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Speaker 6: So I bet no, I do not want to take

706
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Speaker 6: me what I see too.

707
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Speaker 5: And I always caution I guess the younger people we

708
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 5: work with on this platform, when you have these viral

709
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: moments and you kind of go from out of nowhere

710
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you're a young kid or

711
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: even in just a young anyone, and you think you're

712
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: gonna it's going to be that forever. I always think

713
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: the slow, steady, stable growth is because it's hard to maintain.

714
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: And you you know, you see these stories when going viral.

715
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: In the next moment, a year goes by and you

716
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 5: don't hear any business.

717
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I have these talks all the time. I

718
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: mean I feel like when the Bacheler and Batcherettes came

719
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Speaker 1: on and I tried to help them because I they

720
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: they were drinking from a fire hydrant. They were shot

721
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Speaker 1: out of a cannon. But as anything goes, when you're

722
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: shot out of a cannon, you fall. Eventually, that too

723
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Speaker 1: shall pass. You're not going to stay on this arc.

724
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Speaker 1: And they're just they get to this level of you know,

725
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: flying first class and you're on red carpets and all

726
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're on Jimmy Kimme Alive, and it's

727
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: all so intoxicating, and.

728
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Speaker 6: People are so full of shit.

729
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: They will you know, you're great, You're great. We love you,

730
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: we love you, and you think, oh my gosh, I'm great.

731
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm great. People really love me. I'm not saying they

732
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: don't like you, but they're not going to care in

733
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Speaker 1: six months. And you have to know that this has

734
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: a shelf life, and you know, you're like fish left out.

735
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: In three days, you're gonna smell just as bad as

736
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Speaker 1: everybody else. And so there will be the next flavor,

737
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Speaker 1: the next flavor. There's an elementary story.

738
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Speaker 2: People are using you, you know, people in the business

739
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: are using you, like fans are using you. People watching

740
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: you are using you for their entertainment moment. Yeah. I

741
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: think everybody I interviewed who came off the show was like, well, yeah,

742
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: what's up next for me is like, I'm going to

743
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: get my own show.

744
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Speaker 3: I have a lot in the works of like getting

745
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Speaker 3: my own show, and no.

746
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Speaker 7: One ever got that.

747
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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, is anyone ever got

748
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: one person?

749
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 6: Well?

750
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: People, people have this weird idea that they're interesting and

751
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: people aren't interesting. They're not. There were so many people

752
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: that came off the show and like, yeah, I think

753
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm probably do a reality show where they just follow

754
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: us around like a day in our life. I'm like,

755
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: but I actually think the idea, the arrogance that you

756
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: think you are that interesting that well, someone just follows

757
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: you around in your actual life and people will care.

758
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Speaker 4: It's like, really, the only people I can think of

759
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: that that's worked for is the Kardashians.

760
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Speaker 7: But there's ten of them.

761
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Speaker 1: Well, and that's not even true for the Kardashians, and

762
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Speaker 1: I really respect the Kardashians, but that's not true. If

763
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: you really followed the Kardashians around in their real life,

764
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: you would be asleep in three minutes. If you didn't

765
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Speaker 1: have a team of producers setting up restaurants, setting up storyline,

766
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: setting up drama, setting up conversations. The idea like Duck

767
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Dynasty could that was the most produced show probably in

768
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Speaker 1: the history of television.

769
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Speaker 7: Because you just have been behind the scenes.

770
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Speaker 1: You just know, Yeah, and I knew. I know people

771
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Speaker 1: that worked on these shows. I know people that work

772
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: in the Kardashians. I know people that work on Duck Dynasty.

773
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Speaker 1: I know people that work on Survivor and American Idols.

774
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: It's hard work, it's really hard work. I mean our show,

775
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: the Bacher and Bacheoretta. You know what we were genius

776
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: at were producing the fish bowl environment, which is okay,

777
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: the four of us are on a date in this room,

778
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: and this room is set up, there's lights, there's cameras.

779
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: It's not a mistake. The four of us are on

780
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: this date. Michael and I hate each other, and you

781
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: know you and Lauren both have a crush on Michael.

782
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: There's a reason we're all here together. And now we'll

783
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: see what happens. That's the reality. But everything about this

784
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: was set up.

785
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 7: But there was there was an element of reality to it.

786
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, and you have to have good characters.

787
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: The Kardashians are very good at what they do. They're

788
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: brilliant women, and so they know how to once they're

789
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: in a conversation how to manifest that great content and

790
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: drama and push each other and needle each other. It's

791
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: great stuff. They're really good, they're talented.

792
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: What social media has actually done, though, is made is

793
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: given people the opportunity because then you can be interesting

794
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: for like fifteen or thirty seconds, like totally.

795
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 7: Well.

796
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 6: The way I look at it is.

797
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 5: Like for what Louren and I do, maybe who knows,

798
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: maybe there was a chance, but there was no Like

799
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: what social media did podcast it is it democratize people

800
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: to be able if they put in the hard work

801
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: for a long yeah, they could be able to sustain.

802
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: And you know, we have been doing our show for

803
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: a long time, like I mentioned, And you'll hear things

804
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: now like somebody say, oh wow, I can't believe like

805
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: scarlet your hands on the show. I'm like, yeah, that's

806
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 5: episode six hundred and fifty.

807
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 6: Body, Yeah, you know what I mean. It's not episode

808
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 6: one through five hundred. It took a long time.

809
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: And what I tell I guess creators are people that

810
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: are going to engage in these mediums now, is you

811
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 5: have to like if you're just seeking fame for the

812
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 5: for the sake of fame, like what is the goal, Like,

813
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: what's the intention?

814
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 6: What are you building? What are you gonna have to show?

815
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: It's not a business plan, Yeah exactly.

816
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's it's you have to you have to

817
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 5: build something with the attention that you it's your next book,

818
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: you know, Garnishing attention is great. But what I always

819
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: find to be the most tragic is you see somebody

820
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: and they got a load of attention and they didn't

821
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 5: do anything with that attention. They built no asset, they

822
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 5: put no money away, they didn't you know, whatever it is,

823
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: and then it goes away, And like that to me

824
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 5: is a tragedy.

825
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: Well, I know it's true for me, and I'm gonna

826
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: guess it's true for the three of you. None, none

827
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: of us got into this to be famous. Yeah, no

828
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: one thought, you know, it'd be great because if I

829
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: walked down the street and someone recognized.

830
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 7: So what did you want to be when you were

831
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 7: a little boy? Like looking a fireman? Okay? Then how

832
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 7: did you get in? How did you get into.

833
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Doing what you were doing?

834
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: His mom does tell a story of he wanted to

835
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: be a sportscaster, and his mom tells a story of

836
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: like his brother would be running around and he'd be

837
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: like narrating his brother running around the house.

838
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: And then you did that.

839
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: He got into sports broadcasting and like local news and

840
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: then for while, I'm really telling your story here, and

841
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: then on a horse racing network, and then he got

842
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: the audition for the Bachelor, and it was a total pivot.

843
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was. I was a good soccer player,

844
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: and I played sports and college, played soccer in college,

845
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: and but I always it was funny. Even when I

846
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: was younger, like junior high and all that, I didn't

847
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: want to be in the Talent Show. I wanted to

848
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: host it. So like High and Dallas, Texas, where I went,

849
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: I was the MC of the Talent Show. And I

850
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: because my thought was if you have an act, you're

851
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: on for like three minutes. If I'm the MC, I

852
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: get to be on all night and I get to

853
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: be funny every between every act. And I thought that

854
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: would be more stage time and more of my personality.

855
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: And because I couldn't sing or dance, and so that's

856
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: I always loved hosting. It's always been my jam.

857
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: That's smart, That is very true. You're on for three

858
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: minutes if you're the talent. I think that with what

859
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: what you're saying about the Bachelor and Bachelorette we talk

860
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: about all the time on our show, was like, it

861
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: is like an astronaut syndrome.

862
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 7: It's like we talk about this all the time.

863
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: It's like astronauts go to the moon and then they

864
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 4: come back down and they get depressed.

865
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 5: Well, like a creator goes viral and then it doesn't

866
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: happen every time after that.

867
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Speaker 4: You're like, well, are you supposed to go if you've

868
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 4: gone at the moon, what are you supposed to do?

869
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: You're supposed to wake up and walk down the street

870
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: and go to the It's just like everything kind of I.

871
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 5: Think when you put as much time as you guys,

872
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: haven't you know, I guess in some ways we have

873
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 5: like I appreciate the result way more than maybe somebody

874
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: who has gone viral overnight, like to you know, when

875
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 5: Laura and I started our show, we were in our

876
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 5: kitchen with It's still it's an episode one. If you

877
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: go it's it's atrocious. But I look at that and

878
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, that kind of like thing that started

879
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: eight years ago has now bequ these things.

880
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 6: But it wasn't.

881
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 5: It wasn't a fast like overnight thing, and so I'm appreciative,

882
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 5: and I think because of that, I'm more cautious in

883
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: how we engage with all of this.

884
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: I would say it took a long time to become

885
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: an overnight sensation.

886
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you were, you were probably the best tool

887
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 4: that all of the people on the Bachelor and Bachelorette

888
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: could have gone to, because you've seen.

889
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: It, many of them did.

890
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 7: Okay, if I was on that show, I.

891
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: Would like I definitely helped many of them negotiate contracts,

892
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: work on, you know, because I knew the show was

893
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: not great because and it's this is nothing against the

894
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: show or the network whatever. That's not their job. ABC

895
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: is not like, well, let me make sure Lauren is

896
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: taking care of after the show and make sure she

897
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: has all the skills and you know things she needs

898
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: to take her next step in life. That's not their job.

899
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Their job is to move on to next season and

900
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: worry about another show, et cetera. And so I just

901
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: knew these people were now walking on a tightrope without

902
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: a net. So I tried to be there for him

903
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: obviously overcaretaker. I'll talk to my therapist about this, but

904
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: you know I would we already have I would, you know,

905
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: deal with you know, Ben Higgins or whoever. And they

906
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: would call me and be like, hey, I've been offered this,

907
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: I've been offered this, and so I would try to

908
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: help them navigate this crazy world that they were entering into.

909
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: And did some not listen to you?

910
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: A lot? Yeah, some because a lot of them feel

911
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: like they got so famous so quick. Again they know better,

912
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: you know. It's like, honestly, it'll be like your kids.

913
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: They know better, right, you know, when you're eight years old,

914
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: you got it all figured out. You're just so you

915
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: watch them trip on every hurdle you got over. I've

916
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: made all these mistakes you're about to make.

917
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 7: And you've seen it all the agents.

918
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 5: A lot of the agents are going to not like

919
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 5: me for this. But this industry in particular has a

920
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: lot of transactional people in the space. And what I

921
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 5: mean trans that doesn't mean like an agent's job is

922
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: to go and secure a deal that they then commission

923
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 5: on for their agency. And there are some phenomenal agents

924
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 5: I should say, that have their clients' long term issures

925
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 5: at heart, but there are also some agents that sometimes

926
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: take a transactional fee over something that is not in

927
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 5: the best interest of their client's long term success. And

928
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: I think that this space, particularly, you're a new talent

929
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden there's blood in the water,

930
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: and you get these guys that like, ooh, this is

931
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 5: a quick payday, I'm going to go and get X,

932
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 5: and it sounds like maybe you've been making no money

933
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 5: or you haven't had any opportunity, and then you take

934
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 5: this thing and you don't realize the ramification that it's

935
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 5: going to cause.

936
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: Remember Trista, the first wedding we ever did, Tristan Ryan. Yeah,

937
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: I think, and you know, remember everyone talking about a

938
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: million dollar contract and oh my god, they're so rich.

939
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: And I remember Trista. She got an agent and a

940
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: manager and so they were taking like thirty five percent.

941
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: So she's doing this wedding and you pay taxes on

942
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: fifty percent and then thirty five percent, like they took

943
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: home peanuts for that wedding.

944
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: I've never had an agent, It's never, And my advice

945
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 2: to people is always, I don't think you need an agent.

946
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 3: I really don't think.

947
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 7: You have had an agent for anything that you've done.

948
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 7: That's incredible.

949
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: Thank you well, I mean I got some of it

950
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: was I got lucky in like right place, right time

951
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: and also working hard. But then from there I was

952
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: just like I met with a couple people and I

953
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: could tell like kind of like what you're saying, Michael.

954
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 2: I mean this one guy, he's like, yeah, I really

955
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: want to represent you, And I said, cool, like what

956
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: do you like that I've done?

957
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: And with that one question he couldn't answer anything, and

958
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: he's like, well, like you're on entertainment.

959
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: Tonight, Yeah, like if you what interviewed? Like, is what

960
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: anything that you've seen? And it falls apart really quickly,

961
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: and I think that that job is more unimportant than

962
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: it's ever been. But something that's always a tell to

963
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: me is that when people get big enough, a lot

964
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: of them don't have agents anymore. Like Angelina Julie doesn't

965
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: have an agent anymore, Broll Pitt doesn't, Bill Murray doesn't

966
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: like why lawyer Yeah why when they're able to do

967
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: they say goodbye to that person.

968
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: And I agree with you.

969
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Some people have like great long term relationships, but those

970
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: few connections are making this look like it's so much

971
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: better than it is.

972
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: I've had good I've said bad. I've had great agents,

973
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: had terrible agents there's yeah.

974
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 5: What I guess the point I'm making is especially for

975
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 5: new people in entertainment, when you don't know the good

976
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 5: from the bad, and you have everybody in your ear

977
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: saying do this, do that, and you don't have the

978
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 5: experience of what to say yes. Or I'll even give

979
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 5: you an example, maybe you sign on for a big

980
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: deal with a big brand that is going to alienate

981
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 5: you from all sorts of other brands in those categories

982
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 5: in the future. Like these are just things that I

983
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 5: think it's dangerous to go fast. For Lauren and I,

984
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 5: it's been such a slow build sure that we've got

985
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 5: like there was there was nobody, no agents beating down

986
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: the doors in the first few years, and so we've

987
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: got to see and out to your point at this point,

988
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 5: like I can't ever imagine, you know, hiring an agent

989
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 5: or a manager for myself.

990
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to ask you guys about was

991
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: you first started dating in sixth grade?

992
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: Is that your story?

993
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 7: We met in sixth grade? Okay, we met literally on

994
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 7: the playground.

995
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: And then you like, did you didn't date that? When

996
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 3: did you start dating?

997
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 7: We dated dated if you want to call it that.

998
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: When did you first make out.

999
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 7: We first made out probably six months into meeting.

1000
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 6: She gave me the tennis courts when I was thirteen

1001
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 6: years old.

1002
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: Before you had any hair on your peaches.

1003
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, before you had any hair.

1004
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Probably good effort.

1005
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 7: That probably thank you. That was we were different story.

1006
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: We started super hot and heavy for whatever reason.

1007
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 6: And I'm not I don't know what it was. It

1008
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: was just this thing.

1009
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: Like a like a you say sex is important in

1010
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: your relationship, but for.

1011
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 5: Me, it was honestly love at first sight. I thought

1012
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 5: I looked at her, she was fully developed. I was

1013
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: dating some other little sixth grader. I was like, bye,

1014
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: and I went after her. I just always chased her

1015
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 5: always after that, and you know, we went off our

1016
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: separate ways. She broke my heart going into high school.

1017
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 5: She went off with the older guys, and then we

1018
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: went to separate colleges and we had our fun and

1019
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 5: then came back and I just.

1020
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: Know after college, he was like, he was very persistent,

1021
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: and I was just like, you know what, I'll give

1022
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: it a try, and it was like it was just

1023
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: a match again. And it was the same connection that

1024
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: we had when we were little.

1025
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were.

1026
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: My dad caught us in the closet in seventh grade, thought, yeah,

1027
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 4: touch about it.

1028
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 7: At our wedding, we just were we really really know

1029
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 7: each other.

1030
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: And you know what, when you cut you in the

1031
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: closet in the act of.

1032
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 7: My shirt was off.

1033
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: How are you still alive today?

1034
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 6: I didn't know.

1035
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 7: I mean too, can you imagine now that you have

1036
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 7: a daughter?

1037
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 5: No, But what I say to him now is like, hey,

1038
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 5: two grandkids later and it worked out, and I don't

1039
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 5: I mean at the time he was a saint for

1040
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: not killing me. He threw me in his car. We

1041
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 5: went down to the local mall and he threw me

1042
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: out of the car, still getting dressed. And this was

1043
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: the pager days, in the payphone.

1044
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: Days, I would have had a long drive and a

1045
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: long talk, like he took me down to the room.

1046
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: I called my father because her parents were in an uproar,

1047
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 5: as you can imagine, and I called my father and

1048
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 5: I told him this whole story about how I just

1049
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: got caught and I.

1050
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Was feeling up his daughter, Yeah, I said, got in

1051
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: a second base. I was about it.

1052
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: I called my dad and I said what should I do?

1053
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 5: And I was waiting for that fatherly advice, and all

1054
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: I heard on the other side was bellowing laughter.

1055
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny when you're the dad the other boys,

1056
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: and it was about double standards. It's my daughter. I'm

1057
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's a yellowstone. I'm taking you to the

1058
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: train station.

1059
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 5: I pray every day that CARMA's not real because I

1060
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 5: have a daughter now. But no, I mean, I don't

1061
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 5: know what it what it is or what it was

1062
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: or and they you know, people talk about connections, and

1063
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: I try not to be so cheesy, but we I

1064
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: always knew and then sent then we like, since we

1065
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: got back together, we have never been apart.

1066
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: I think what I'm like noticing about you two sitting

1067
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: here is you really know each other really well. And

1068
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: I was curious how long you'd you know, if you'd

1069
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: like known each other all that time, or you took

1070
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: your kind of breaks from each other. But I think

1071
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: one thing I'm learning even I mean, we've only been

1072
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: married five months, but we've been together five years. But

1073
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: something I've learned in the past couple of months is

1074
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: that I still have a lot to learn about him,

1075
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: which sort of shook me a little bit, Like I

1076
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: feel I know him so well and so intimately, but

1077
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: then you kind of realize, Oh, there's this thing I

1078
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: didn't there's this layer.

1079
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff about you know.

1080
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 7: Do you feel that way one hundred percent?

1081
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: I think a really nice thing in marriage is I

1082
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 4: love discovering new things even to this day about him,

1083
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: Like I'll discover like, huh, like there's a book that

1084
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: he wants me to read about his he's a fourth

1085
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: Japanese about his Japanese heritage, and I'll start learning more

1086
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: about like Japanese and I'll be like, he does that.

1087
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 5: Well, my grandmother was a Japanese woman, and I was like,

1088
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 5: you should understand the culture.

1089
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: You have to be interested in your partner. You have

1090
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 4: to be engaging, you have to be interesting. You have

1091
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 4: to I always, like every single time and I don't

1092
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: even know if you know this, when we go on

1093
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: a date, it's like I bring some kind of information

1094
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 4: to talk about, Like I never wanted to like fall flat,

1095
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 4: and I never want to rest on my laurels as.

1096
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 7: A wife, like you always have to keep the momentum.

1097
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Good way putting it. If you're not finding out new stuff,

1098
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Speaker 1: then you're not doing it right. So instead of maybe

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Speaker 1: anxiety ridden of like oh my gosh, I don't know

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Speaker 1: this person. It's like, I'm excited, I'm still diving into Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: I've changed my At first, it did freak me out

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Speaker 2: a little bit, and then I thought, I think it

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Speaker 2: also freaked me out because honestly, because he's so much

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00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: older than me, I was like, Oh, I'm marrying this dude.

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Speaker 3: He's fifty.

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Speaker 2: He's got it, like he's totally knows himself, knows himself

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Speaker 2: inside and out, like we're dialed in. And then I

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00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh, still dude. But then I I thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is great. You know we're gonna like and we're

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00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: both going to keep changing too, And so that was

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Speaker 2: that was something that it sounds really simple, but I

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00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: really I was happy to learn, Oh it's it's not

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00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: all set and it's not all figured out.

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Speaker 3: But that's also a little challenging sometimes too.

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00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, it keeps it fun.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, it's it's probably nice to be

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Speaker 4: married to a fifty year old because they are wise

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Speaker 4: or no offense, you are a wise thirty six year old.

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Speaker 4: You are, but it probably does take a lot of

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Speaker 4: dynamic out when they're older than you.

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Speaker 7: I can imagine because.

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Speaker 1: There are more our fights are different.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your fight's different. Your fight's different than when you

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Speaker 4: were thirty five years old. Oh sure, It's like all

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00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 4: you have to do is say yes, dear.

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00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 7: Well yes.

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Speaker 1: It's so easy to take my ego and my whatever

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Speaker 1: out of it because I know, I know what's important now.

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Speaker 1: So before we let you guys go, we got to

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Speaker 1: wrap this up because we're in your house and we're

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Speaker 1: going to switch places here in a second. You guys

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Speaker 1: just had John Stamos on You did who had the

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00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: bigger crush on him? And if you had the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: which one of you would have had sex with?

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 1: For sure?

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Speaker 6: Answer too quick.

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00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: He's that stunningly handsome.

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Speaker 4: John Stamos was my crush growing up, and it was

1141
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 4: loking wild to see my husband next to him because

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, I married my crush.

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00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 7: Because there's kind of a similarity. It's like the hair.

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00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: I see that, the if I if I squint my

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00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: eyes just enough, I'll take it.

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00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: Put them both in a leather jacket. I'm telling you,

1147
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: there's a there's a I have a type.

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Speaker 7: Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: So did you scream his name out? Later that night?

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Speaker 6: It was me?

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00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 7: I think Michael screamed his name. You know, he's a

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00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 7: beautiful man.

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Speaker 5: We what I would say about him is he obviously

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Speaker 5: is known for stunningly good looks and all of that,

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00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 5: but like we've we've interviewed a ton of people, talk

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00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: about great sense of humor, down to earth. He came

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00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 5: into the office, was kind to every single person that

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00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 5: works in that office, said thank you.

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Speaker 7: You don't you know, you don't always get stayed. You

1160
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 7: don't always get.

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00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: That stayed for hours after to make sure everybody got

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Speaker 5: a picture like nice and you know, you know, being

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00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 5: in entertainment, like it's not always the case. And not

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00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: only that, he's phenomenal on a mic, and we just

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00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: we just riffed and had so much fun.

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00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 7: This book is also really really good. I could not

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Speaker 7: put it down.

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Speaker 2: I've interviewed him several times. He's a sweetheart of a

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Speaker 2: man and.

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Speaker 7: Like magical hum Well he.

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Speaker 2: Was like, I mean, I guess I had a crush

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00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: on Uncle Jesse, but when I first started interviewing him,

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Speaker 2: he'd like just gotten married and had his child, you know,

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00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: and oh my gosh, that man was just so like

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00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: so different from you. You guys are probably similar in

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00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: age and he didn't have a child until much later

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Speaker 2: in life. And to watch someone be so happy to

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00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: become a parent, it's kind of like what you were

1179
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: talking about earlier with fame, but he'd like waited and

1180
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: like worked his way to like finding the right and

1181
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: get it, and it was sort of it really was

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00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: powerful to witness someone's dream coming trip.

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00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 5: Doing the interviews that we do, maybe you guys will

1185
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: relate this. A lot of people that I have reached

1186
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 5: his level of fame and success. They come on these

1187
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 5: platforms circling back to what we talked about earlier, and

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00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 5: it's like, let's have this curated, edited conversation. Feed me

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00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 5: the questions which we're not interested to.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 5: We didn't get one edit one down. He's like, ask

1192
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 5: me whatever you want. I'll talk about whatever. I can

1193
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 5: be open, and I just think that, like my I mean,

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00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 5: there's a lot of compliens, but he really walks the

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00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 5: walk and it's humble and it's not even the stuff

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00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: it was on camera. It was the stuff that we

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00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 5: witnessed off camera. Oh okay, yeah, is that I mean?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it was. It was a great interview.

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Speaker 3: Well, you ended with John Stamos. That's a great place.

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Speaker 1: That's why I want to end it sex with John Stamos.

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00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: We all like, we all want to make love to

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Speaker 1: John Stamos. Just let's be honest.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Laura and Michael, thank you for opening your home.

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00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 7: Thank you having us here, Dear media, thank you for

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00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 7: having us on, for coming.

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Speaker 1: On Skinny Confidential, the podcast, the books, what else, mouth,

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Speaker 1: the water, the mouth tape, the but don't.

1209
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: Plug this water at all.

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00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all got to get your own water.

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Speaker 7: We got to get our own water. That's a great idea.

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00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 7: Drink like a what did you what was the book

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Speaker 7: called fame?

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Speaker 4: Is it on a business plan? I think you're a

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00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 4: person to write it. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: I could say, yeah, think about it. Thank you guys

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Speaker 2: for being on, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever,

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Speaker 1: us five stars. I'll talk to you next time.