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Speaker 1: Welcome it, everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts right now. A lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff going on up on Capitol Hill. We're going

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Speaker 1: to be getting into some of that with you, for sure,

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Speaker 1: given the fact that the Iran War is getting a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of attention for obvious reasons. The Tulsi Gabbard

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Speaker 1: testimony before Congress on global threats touching on things that

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Speaker 1: we will want to discuss, so we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: We have some of the aftermath of the Joe Kent

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Speaker 1: resignation speaking of national security from director of NCTC. More

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Speaker 1: updates on Iran, the Save America Act, which we have

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Speaker 1: tried to bring up as often as we can here

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Speaker 1: because we get a tremendous amount of people saying that.

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Speaker 2: We should.

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Speaker 1: Be discussing it more. So we go, okay, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it. We'll talk about it important. We want election

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Speaker 1: security too. It looks like it is on the way

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Speaker 1: to defeat my friends, so I guess we'll continue to

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Speaker 1: have this discussion. But Soune is the majority leader. The

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Speaker 1: people in his state elected him to the Senate to

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Speaker 1: represent the Republican Party, and they seem to rather the

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Speaker 1: Republicans seemed to be on a pathway here to not

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Speaker 1: passing the say back. So that is where it is.

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Speaker 1: If that changes, we'll let you know, but we'll give

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Speaker 1: you some updates on that. Something that is a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a surprise to me, and perhaps it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been, was how things were going up on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill for the Mark Wayne Mullen confirmation as DHS Secretary.

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Speaker 1: Now Clay, one thing that I think is quite clear

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Speaker 1: at this point is given what just happened at DHS,

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Speaker 1: which was leadership failure at all levels, Let's just be

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Speaker 1: honest about it. It looked buffoonish, unethical and screwed things

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Speaker 1: up in the way Minneapolis was with messaging. The Christinaham

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Speaker 1: and now she's on some advisory security committee or something

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Speaker 2: So that was.

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Speaker 1: A appropriate move by the Trump administration. This is maybe

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Speaker 1: the single most important thing. Deportations might be the number

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Speaker 1: one promise of the Trump administration for this second term.

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Speaker 1: It's happening, but it is not happening at the rate

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Speaker 1: that was promised. Let's be honest about this and there

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Speaker 1: needs to be a whole lot more going on between

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Speaker 1: now and the midterm election. With all that, I thought

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Speaker 1: that DHS secretary's confirmation would be a pretty straightforward partisan issue.

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Speaker 1: I knew Democrats were going to push Mark win Mullen

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Speaker 1: testy with Senator Rampaul, who I might add, is joining

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Speaker 1: some sense of how the Let's start with so a

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Speaker 1: little bit of background here. As you, many of you

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Speaker 1: will recall traps all of you, Ran Paul was assaulted

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Speaker 1: by a Democrat neighbor and almost beaten to death. His

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Speaker 1: It was horrible.

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Speaker 2: He got infections. He's terrible.

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Speaker 1: And Ran Paul is an older guy and he was

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Speaker 1: this comes after Ram Paul was almost shot by the

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Speaker 1: through some stuff, so let's just be fair about that.

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Speaker 1: I can understand he doesn't have a sense of humor

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Speaker 1: about this because it's not funny. And here's what he

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Speaker 1: said to Mark. He says that Mark Wayne Mullen has

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Speaker 2: This is cut too. Listen to how this exchange went.

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Speaker 3: You have never had the courage to look me in

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Speaker 3: So today you'll have your chance. Today, I'll give you

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Speaker 3: that chance to clear the record. Tell it to my face,

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Speaker 3: if that's what you believe, tell it to me today.

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Speaker 3: Tell the world why you believe I deserve to be

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Speaker 3: assaulted from behind, have six ribs broken and a damage lung.

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Speaker 3: Tell me to my face why you think I deserved it.

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Speaker 3: And while you're at it, explained to the American public

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Speaker 3: Explain to the American public how a man who has

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Speaker 1: I don't think Ram Paul's a yes vote that I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't like each other, and.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes people don't like each other, and it is theatrical

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Speaker 5: political disagreements, but personally they get along quite well. And

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Speaker 5: there's still a decent amount of that I think on

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Speaker 5: And honestly, I think that's an interesting question. Why people

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Speaker 5: My argument would be social media, which has to a

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Speaker 5: and so some people take it very seriously, even though

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Speaker 5: for others it's still a form of kabooki theater. It

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Speaker 4: But this is real.

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Speaker 5: Rand Paul and Mark Wayne Mullen don't like each other,

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Speaker 5: and usually you get as we talked about when this

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Speaker 5: we said, oh, Mark Waynemullen, he'll get confirmed relatively easily

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Speaker 5: because the United States Senate tends to take care of

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Speaker 5: a bit. Buck, I think that Ran Paul would feel

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Speaker 5: Pete hag Seth, for instance, needed the overall tie breaking

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Speaker 5: things would be different. I think Mark Wayne Mullen will

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Speaker 5: get multiple, probably Democrat votes. Certainly we know he's going

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Speaker 5: But man, I'm interested to hear from Rand Paul at

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Speaker 5: the next hour. You know his basis for this perspective.

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Speaker 5: We've had both those guys on. I'm in a spot

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Speaker 5: going on with media, argue Buck, where I tend to

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Speaker 5: That's my overall perspective here too. I like Ran Paul

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Speaker 5: And I think Mark wayn mullen came on our show

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Speaker 5: the reality.

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Speaker 1: I think that the not liking each other thing. But

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Speaker 1: we said this as well one time. I remember that

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Speaker 1: was quite clear Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswami do not

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Speaker 5: It was a different thing in the debate. There was

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Speaker 5: venom associated with both of them. It wasn't just a disagreement.

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Speaker 2: Right, it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can think about this with Democrats like

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Speaker 1: Kamala basically said to Joe Biden, you're an old white racist,

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Speaker 1: and then she became his VP like she said it

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: These guys look they have personal beef. Mark wayn Mullen

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Speaker 1: addressed Ran Paul's comments, we have to play the other

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Speaker 2: This is cut three. Listen in.

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Speaker 6: I simply addressed that I said I could understand because

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Speaker 6: of the behavior you were having that I gotta understand

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Speaker 6: why your neighbor, why the neighbor did what he did.

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Speaker 6: As far as my terms is snake in the grass, sir,

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Speaker 6: I work around this room to try to fix problems.

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Speaker 6: I've worked with many people in this room. Seems like

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Speaker 6: you fight Republicans more than you work with us. I

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Speaker 6: did address those remarks. I did explain your gimmicks by

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Speaker 6: the amendment.

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Speaker 4: You put forth.

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Speaker 6: And as far as me saying that I invote violence,

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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't think anybody should be hit by surprise.

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Speaker 4: I don't like that.

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Speaker 6: But if I do have something to say, everybody in

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Speaker 6: this room knows, I'll come straight to you. I'll say

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Speaker 2: It's not an apology. It's a an apology, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: It's I think he was making what he considered to

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Speaker 5: I don't think that Mark Wayne Mullen is actually in

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Speaker 5: favor of random acts of violence.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I think he was making a joke based on his relationship,

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Speaker 5: A little bit of a cutting joke, yes, And I

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Speaker 4: So that's where I kind of think they are.

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Speaker 5: If I always say this, if I were in the Senate,

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Speaker 5: I would vote for Mark Wayne Mullen. And I think

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Speaker 5: I would enjoy working with Rand Paul too, because I

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Speaker 5: I can see them being incredibly different individuals, right. You

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Speaker 5: And I just look my general perspective Buckin'. We talked

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Speaker 5: spend your time, right There're so to me, there are

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Speaker 5: has a bit of a different perspective on Iran than

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Speaker 5: I do, I'm not willing to like put on boxing

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Speaker 5: on that being wrong.

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Speaker 4: When there's so many people that are not even.

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Speaker 5: In good faith engaging in in arguments on the left,

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Speaker 5: does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: And I think a lot of you kind of get that.

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Speaker 5: It kind of echoes the Ronald Reagan thing, which is,

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Speaker 5: it's clearly that to be violated here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Clay and I try to have no enemies to

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Speaker 5: And that's what's going on here. I will say two things.

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Speaker 5: What questions do you want to ask to the senator?

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Speaker 5: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 4: Nothing is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And the twenty twenty eight election starts in December, my friends, Yes,

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Speaker 5: just said, hey, you know what, red blue, We're going

441
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Speaker 5: back to the historic They.

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Speaker 2: Went full Department of War on this.

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Speaker 1: I kind of liked that idea because the Democrats of

444
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Speaker 1: the comedies they should be read blue is the greatest color,

445
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and blue is what the Republican Party

446
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Speaker 1: has always stood for.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

448
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Speaker 4: When we come back. We'll give you updates on Iran.

449
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Speaker 5: We will also continue to talk about the Mark Waynemullen hearing.

450
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Speaker 5: We've got Senator Ran Paul scheduled to join us. Some

451
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Speaker 5: good news. Murder rate hit one hundred and twenty five

452
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Speaker 5: year low. I think we should continue to hammer that home.

453
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Speaker 5: DC crime murder rate has collapsed. I'll hit you with

454
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Speaker 5: some of those numbers if you want something positive. We'll

455
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Speaker 5: also jump back into a conversation we've been having, which

456
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Speaker 5: I think is very significant. Kathy Hokeel is now begging

457
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Speaker 5: rich people to move back to New York.

458
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Speaker 4: Did you see this, Buck?

459
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Speaker 5: As the overall budget is collapsing in New York State

460
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Speaker 5: and in New York City. And our good friend Joy

461
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Speaker 5: Behar says Trump is doing to Europe the same thing

462
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Speaker 5: that Adolph Hitler did to Europe. That's real, that's the view.

463
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Speaker 5: We'll have some fun with it. Thank for hanging with

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Speaker 5: us on Clay and Buck. Ohcomeack in Clay, Travis Buck

465
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Speaker 5: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us

466
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Speaker 5: across the country. We are joined now by Senator Rampaul

467
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Speaker 5: of Kentucky and Senator You've made quite a bit of

468
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Speaker 5: news earlier today and the DHS hearings of Senator Mark

469
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Speaker 5: Wayne Mullen, And I guess we just can start off

470
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Speaker 5: here with a question. I don't know that you've officially

471
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Speaker 5: said one way or the other. Based on the questions,

472
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Speaker 5: it doesn't sound like you're going to be voting for.

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Speaker 4: Him to be head of DHS.

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Speaker 5: And if is that true, and if so, why will

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Speaker 5: you be voting against him?

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Speaker 7: You know, I guess I'm concerned about anger issues someone

477
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Speaker 7: leading Ice and Bold Patrol issues that basically advocated and

478
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Speaker 7: celebrated the violence it was committed about me. I was

479
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Speaker 7: attacked from behind several years ago, six riggs broken, three

480
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Speaker 7: of them separated, completely damaged my long multiple pneumonias, had

481
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Speaker 7: part of my long remove nearly a year a year

482
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Speaker 7: and a half later, And I guess I don't think

483
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Speaker 7: that's funny. I also don't think that that's something to

484
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Speaker 7: be celebrated. And I wonder if someone thinks that that

485
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Speaker 7: is to be applauded, should they really be in charge

486
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Speaker 7: of ICE and CVP, who I think they need a

487
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Speaker 7: better role model. Also has a history of brawling. I mean,

488
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Speaker 7: he got up to them a committee hearing, threatened someone

489
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Speaker 7: who was testifying said he would jump over the table

490
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Speaker 7: and follow up interviews. He said, yeah, people just deserve

491
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Speaker 7: to me sometimes be punched in the mouth. He said, well, yeah,

492
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Speaker 7: there's a historical precedent for this. You know, we had

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Speaker 7: dueling and we've had canings, and so I asked him

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Speaker 7: that today and he said, oh, yeah, we've had duelings.

495
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Speaker 7: And I said, when you realize it was illegal one

496
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Speaker 7: hundred and seventy years ago. It's certainly illegal now, but

497
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Speaker 7: it was illegal even back then and frowned upon, and

498
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Speaker 7: people actually had to travel either to other states or

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Speaker 7: countries to do dueling because we dis approved of it

500
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Speaker 7: even one hundred and seventy years ago. But the fact

501
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Speaker 7: that he would still think that we should settle our

502
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Speaker 7: political differences through violence, I think makes him really unfit

503
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Speaker 7: to hold any kind of position like this. So I

504
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Speaker 7: will vote against.

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Speaker 2: Him, Senator Paul.

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Speaker 1: Just to be clear, because we played some of the

507
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Speaker 1: back and forth audio, Senator Mullen has never apologized for

508
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Speaker 1: what he said. Is that correct? That has never happened.

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Speaker 7: He called me in one discussion and he said, well

510
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Speaker 7: he said what he said today. I hope we get

511
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Speaker 7: aside our political differences. Well, our political differences are. You know,

512
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Speaker 7: we disagree on funding refugee welfare. I'm against giving any

513
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Speaker 7: more money for refugee welfare. I would end the programs.

514
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Speaker 7: He's for it. That's a political difference. But if I

515
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Speaker 7: say that I wish harm on his family or I

516
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Speaker 7: wish harm on him, that's not a political difference. That's

517
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Speaker 7: an advocation for violence. And Franks, I've been on the

518
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Speaker 7: receiving end of violence, and I just don't think it's

519
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Speaker 7: good for our country. And it's not a good example

520
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Speaker 7: for somebody who leads law enforcement where there's been some

521
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Speaker 7: questions about the use of force. And so he's never apologized.

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Speaker 7: He was given a chance today. I think a normal

523
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Speaker 7: person would have taken that chance and apologized and said

524
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Speaker 7: he continued to this bizarre rat that somehow, when he

525
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Speaker 7: was an House of Representatives he told this to my

526
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Speaker 7: face because he's, you know, such a macho guy. I

527
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Speaker 7: don't think I ever met the guy when he was

528
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Speaker 7: no house. I don't remember ever meeting with him, and

529
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Speaker 7: I certainly would remember if someone walked up to me

530
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Speaker 7: and told me that I deserved to be bushwhacked, you know,

531
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Speaker 7: in my yard. So no I'd never met him before

532
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Speaker 7: he got to the Senate, and he's never set it

533
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Speaker 7: to my face. But it's interesting what he took umbrage with.

534
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Speaker 7: He took umbrage with the fact that I called him

535
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Speaker 7: a liar, but he didn't never come out and say, oh, yeah,

536
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Speaker 7: you know, I was angry about this vote, and you know,

537
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Speaker 7: in retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have. You know, thought that

538
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Speaker 7: it was a great idea that this violence was committed

539
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Speaker 7: against you. But it's that it's his brawling and Senate committees,

540
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Speaker 7: it's his referring to dueling and caning. I asked him

541
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Speaker 7: if he knew Charles Sumner was. I don't think he does.

542
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Speaker 7: But Charles Sumner was caned nearly to death. He was

543
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 7: came till he was unconscious. And the reason that we're

544
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Speaker 7: that it kept going as one of Preston Book's colleagues

545
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Speaker 7: in South Carolina came over with a gun and he

546
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Speaker 7: kept the others. I always wondered, you know why the

547
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Speaker 7: Senator's not intervened. The reason they didn't intervene help him.

548
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Speaker 7: He was unconscious, bleeding from the mouth, fleeting from his ears,

549
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Speaker 7: his skull being crushed by this guy with the cane

550
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Speaker 7: and nobody helps him. But it's because another thug friend

551
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Speaker 7: of Preston Brooks was holding a gun to the senators

552
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Speaker 7: keeping them at bay. So, but he brings us up

553
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Speaker 7: as a justification. He brought it up again today. He says, well, yeah,

554
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Speaker 7: there is dueling, and I said, well, yeah, it's been

555
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Speaker 7: illegal for one hundred and seventy years, including at the time.

556
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Speaker 7: Even when they had dueling in the eighteenth early nineteenth century,

557
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Speaker 7: most time it was illegal, and most time they went

558
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Speaker 7: to some kind of venue to escape being caught doing

559
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Speaker 7: doing because it wasn't approved of by most people.

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Speaker 1: Senator Paul can I ask you, do you have any

561
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Speaker 1: sense that there are any other Republicans who have serious

562
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Speaker 1: concerns about this confirmation of the DHS secretary or is

563
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Speaker 1: it your sense that you stand alone among Republicans on.

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Speaker 7: This Probably in the committee I will be the only one,

565
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Speaker 7: you know. Frankly, I suffered for a year or two

566
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Speaker 7: with this, had part of my lung remove, so I

567
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 7: do take it kind of personally. I do think though

568
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 7: it's more of a generalized problem because I think his

569
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Speaker 7: resorting to fists and his idea that people sometimes just

570
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 7: deserve to be punched in the face. I think that

571
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Speaker 7: kind of attitude would worry me where we you know,

572
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Speaker 7: this is what we had with Bovino. When Bovino was

573
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Speaker 7: up there in Minneapolis. It was a disaster because he's

574
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Speaker 7: marching around with the bulletproof vest, brandishing his weapons and

575
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Speaker 7: showing how Tafias and everybody got this sort of macho

576
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 7: complex up there. Tom Holman, who's not a shrinking violet,

577
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 7: went to it and said if any agents misbehaved, they'll

578
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Speaker 7: be punished, and he started pulling people off the street

579
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Speaker 7: so they weren't in public confrontation every day. You really

580
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Speaker 7: haven't seen it in the news. And that's sort of

581
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Speaker 7: what good leadership would be. But I don't know what

582
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 7: kind of leadership you get from a guy who advocates

583
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Speaker 7: fighting in a you know, in the middle of the

584
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Speaker 7: Senate hearing.

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Speaker 1: Why some people why Tom Holme in the DHS secretary

586
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Speaker 1: by the way, that's a whole other Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think that's an interesting question, Senator

588
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Speaker 5: Rampaul with us right now talking about the Mark Wayne

589
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Speaker 5: Mullen hearing and his potential taking over the DHS. Many

590
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Speaker 5: people in this audience, I guarantee you Senator Paul, and

591
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Speaker 5: I'm sure you're going to hear it from the people

592
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Speaker 5: you represent in Kentucky will say Democrats are wrong on

593
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 5: so much. Why fight internally here over who the president

594
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Speaker 5: wants as DHS secretary? How would you respond to that

595
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Speaker 5: question or that criticism?

596
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Speaker 7: You know, I've supported virtually all the nominees. Christy nom

597
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 7: came forward. I did hers in record time, even though

598
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Speaker 7: Mullen I don't think, don't like, and don't think he's fit,

599
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 7: and really I think he's just a person. But I've

600
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Speaker 7: gotten this nominee done quicker than any other nominee's ever

601
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Speaker 7: gotten it. So I'm giving him fair treatment and sense

602
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Speaker 7: that he got a hearing in less than two weeks.

603
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Speaker 7: He's going to get the boat tomorrow and then all

604
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Speaker 7: likelihood will be approved. But the thing is is, you know,

605
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Speaker 7: if this if this were you, I mean, do you

606
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Speaker 7: have uh, you know it, would it be your conclusion

607
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Speaker 7: to say, well, yeah, he did say the assault, I

608
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 7: mean it was justified. I'll just kind of let that

609
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Speaker 7: go and not say anything about it. Well, I don't

610
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Speaker 7: think there are many people that would let it go.

611
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Speaker 7: I'm kind of actually surprised that more people don't see

612
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Speaker 7: the glorification of violence as a real danger to having

613
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Speaker 7: someone lead ice who really thinks resorting to fists is

614
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Speaker 7: the way we hear this real. You know, if this

615
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Speaker 7: is a badening way to do it, we used to

616
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Speaker 7: do it the right way, with dueling and gaining. And

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Speaker 7: you know, when I first read the story of Charles Summer,

618
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Speaker 7: I was horrified by it. I wasn't. I never never

619
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Speaker 7: crossed my mind that these were the good old days,

620
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Speaker 7: These were the days when men were men and they

621
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Speaker 7: you know, cross each other's skull with sticks. I don't know.

622
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Speaker 7: That never would cross my mind. But that apparently is

623
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Speaker 7: his point of view, and even when confronted with it,

624
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 7: both privately and in public, he refuses to apologize, doesn't

625
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 7: back down, and says basically, yeah, he's it's completely understandable

626
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Speaker 7: that I was attacked from behind. You know, six ribs, broken,

627
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 7: lung damage, multiple pneumonia is part of my lung removed.

628
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Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't get that. I guess I'm

629
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Speaker 7: not willing just to say, oh, let's let bygones be bygones.

630
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Speaker 7: You know we're all adults here. Well, if you want,

631
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Speaker 7: let bygones be bygones, you might start with an apology

632
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 7: for what he said.

633
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Speaker 5: What happened to your attacker? We had a couple of

634
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Speaker 5: people asking us, and Buck and I did a quick research.

635
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Speaker 4: We're live on the air. I'm sure you know.

636
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Speaker 5: Was he severely punished to what you thought he should

637
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Speaker 5: have been that level? Or what was the result of

638
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Speaker 5: that case.

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Speaker 7: Initially, they all the judges in Kentucky recused themselves, which

640
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 7: created a problem because then they have to look for

641
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Speaker 7: a judge. They found one in Detroit who came down

642
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 7: and prejudged the case and gave the guy thirty days.

643
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 7: The government appealed it and went to the sixth Circuit,

644
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Speaker 7: and this doesn't happen very often appealing a criminal ruling

645
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Speaker 7: of a judge because it was outside the sentencing parameters

646
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Speaker 7: and didn't meet the minimum. And they came back and

647
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Speaker 7: gave him another ten months, so he served about a year.

648
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Speaker 7: He lost the civil suit. He's a convicted felon, hopefully

649
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Speaker 7: as not voting anywhere in the country anymore, and hopefully

650
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 7: has received some punishment for this. But you know, it

651
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 7: was misreported from the very beginning, and everybody's oh yeah,

652
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Speaker 7: just a dispute which we had never talked to the guy.

653
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Speaker 7: I mean I talked to maybe ten or fifteen years

654
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Speaker 7: before were gone. A lot our kids used to carpool,

655
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Speaker 7: but there was no personal animus that I knew of

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Speaker 7: between the guy other than that I learned that he

657
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Speaker 7: was the hater of Donald Trump and a hater of

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Speaker 7: me politically when we looked at his online presence, But

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Speaker 7: wasn't like we'd ever had words it. Really, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Those who think it's either funny or should be justified,

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Speaker 7: I think are sick people.

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Speaker 1: Frank Clinton, Senator Ran Paul with us now and Senator

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Speaker 1: if I could, I mean, I think we've covered pretty

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Speaker 1: and pretty good detail here what happened today in your

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Speaker 1: exchange with Mark Wayne Mullen. We are in the midst

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Speaker 1: of what we have been telling everybody is a war

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Speaker 1: and thousands of people are dying, and it is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. I know there's been a little back and

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Speaker 1: forth on what we should call this, and it's you know,

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Speaker 1: there seems to be a little bit of a minimization feeling.

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Speaker 2: Around it in some quarters.

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Speaker 1: My senses, and this is I'm speaking for myself, and

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Speaker 1: Clayton can weigh in with his sense. This is just

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Speaker 1: going to end sometime in the next couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: and we're going to say mission accomplished with having destroyed

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Speaker 1: the Iranian military. What do you make of all of this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're not for it, but what's

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Speaker 1: what's the goal here as you see it? And what

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Speaker 1: are the lessons that we're learning as we go?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the sooner it's over the batter war

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Speaker 7: really isn't good for you know, us as a people,

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Speaker 7: not good for those who die, And really it needs

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Speaker 7: to be the last resort, not the first resort. I

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Speaker 7: think this war was a war of choice, and I

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Speaker 7: didn't agree with the choice. Now, whether they call it

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Speaker 7: a war or not sounds legalistic, but it's a way

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Speaker 7: of getting around the Constitution. The Constitution says that Congress

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Speaker 7: initiates war or declares war. Now, the President's Legal countil

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Speaker 7: the Office of Legal Counsel argues that you'll will tell

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Speaker 7: you when it's a war, but we have to wait

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Speaker 7: a while and we'll add up the casualties. We have

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Speaker 7: to know the duration, the extent, and the scope of

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Speaker 7: the war to tell whether it's a war or not.

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Speaker 7: And I guess the problem with that kind of argument

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Speaker 7: is that if Congress is supposed to initiate or declare war,

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Speaker 7: but you can't tell whether it's really war until a

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Speaker 7: number of dead, you know, it would be sort of

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Speaker 7: Congress coming after the fact and then declaring war after

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Speaker 7: the war's over. You know, with the Iraq War, we

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Speaker 7: declared war in advance. We didn't know how many would die,

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Speaker 7: but we ended up I think losing about forty four

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Speaker 7: hundred soldiers and maybe ten or twenty thousands significantly wounded.

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Speaker 7: But we did actually authorize it. You know, I have

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Speaker 7: some complaints with George W. Bush, but he came to Congress,

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Speaker 7: made the case, and they authorized it, and the same

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Speaker 7: thing after nine to eleven. And I would have voted

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Speaker 7: for the nine to eleven, you know, the response after

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Speaker 7: nine to eleven, because we were attacked. That's when we really,

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Speaker 7: you know, should have a war. But I don't think

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Speaker 7: we've done it in a constitutional way. I think in

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Speaker 7: the end, it's it's really this isn't the primary reason

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Speaker 7: to oppose it, but I think it's also going to

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Speaker 7: be very, very damaging for the Republican ability to hold

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Speaker 7: on to either House or Senate in the fall because

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Speaker 7: of the economic repercussions. I think oil prices go up quickly.

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Speaker 7: I think they're sticky on the way down. And as

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Speaker 7: more infrastructures damaged over there, as the people are having

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Speaker 7: more trouble getting shipped through because of insurance and danger,

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Speaker 7: I don't think that quickly resolves itself. So even if

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Speaker 7: the war ended in a week or two, I think

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Speaker 7: you could still have, you know, pricing increases that could

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Speaker 7: last well into the election.

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Speaker 5: Question for you. This is a VIP email. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to read it from one of our listeners, Matt. You

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Speaker 5: probably have heard versions of this quite a lot. Eighty

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Speaker 5: percent of all Americans support voter ID. I'll be extremely

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Speaker 5: pissed off and deflated if the Save Act fails, especially

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Speaker 5: if it fails due to GOP and fighting. I think

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Speaker 5: the country is doomed if we can't get voter ID passed.

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Speaker 5: That's a VIP email from Matt, one of our listeners.

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Speaker 5: What's going to happen with the Save Act? What should happen?

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Speaker 4: In your mind?

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Speaker 7: You know I'm for it. I'm a co sponsor of it.

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Speaker 7: Voted yesterday to get on it. We got on it

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Speaker 7: with fifty one votes. I am told my leadership there

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Speaker 7: are not fifty one votes to perpetually stay on it,

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Speaker 7: you know, the whole idea of the filibuster, but there

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Speaker 7: aren't fifty one votes to do that. I'm also told

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Speaker 7: that one of the sticking points of doing citizenship park

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Speaker 7: that you might get fifty three of us. You might

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Speaker 7: even get a Democrat or to if adjusted citizenship when

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Speaker 7: it adds in the mail balloting forbidding or discouraging mail balloting,

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Speaker 7: which I am for, I think that's really almost as

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Speaker 7: important as the citizenship part, because they can people cheat

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Speaker 7: through the mail in balloting more than any other form

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Speaker 7: of voting. But the problem is that you have these

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Speaker 7: Western states, I mean Utah has everybody gets the ballot

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Speaker 7: in the mail. They may get multiple ballots. Arizona's the

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Speaker 7: same way, and they've had Republican legislators out there, but

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Speaker 7: they haven't anything about it because frankly, Republicans out there

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Speaker 7: like mail in balloting, the same with their same with Oklahoma,

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Speaker 7: I mean not Oklahoma, Alaska. And so while I am

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Speaker 7: you know, in my state, I helped you know, get

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Speaker 7: the state legislature, encourage them to pass, and almost everybody

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Speaker 7: votes in person. It's like ninety eight percent. It's a

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Speaker 7: selony if you lie you're reasons for a need to

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Speaker 7: vote by mail. It's almost everybody votes in person. We

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Speaker 7: have paper ballots. We keep the paper ballots, and I

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Speaker 7: think they have pretty secure elections. We have, we have

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Speaker 7: IDs to be shown. So some states do it in

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Speaker 7: some now there's about five Republican states that don't so well.

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Speaker 7: I voted for the national and will continue to support

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Speaker 7: the national position. Bility we ought to have as a

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Speaker 7: party at the goal getting the five or six Republican

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Speaker 7: states that do mail in ballot and convincing them at

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Speaker 7: the state level not to do it. But I think

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Speaker 7: it's because this bill has gotten so large and they've

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Speaker 7: added things to it. You won't get any Democrats on it.

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Speaker 7: And the only way probably to pass it right now

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Speaker 7: are to convince more Republicans and some Democrats is actually

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Speaker 7: to narrow the focus to maybe just the citizenship part.

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Speaker 2: Senator Ram Paul, appreciate you making the time for us, sir,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: about New York for a second. Shall we hello to

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Speaker 1: everybody on the wr NYC fantastic heritage radio station that

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Speaker 1: really covers much of the Triborough area. Or sorry that

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Speaker 1: the Tri State area. Tryborough, Good lord, Try State. I

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Speaker 1: haven't been gone down guy.

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Speaker 5: Guy moves in Florida suddenly doesn't know anything about New

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Speaker 5: York anymore.

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Speaker 1: The try Burrows, the Three Burroughs of New York. I

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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta remember things here. I gotta keep things straight.

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Speaker 1: But w R great station, listening many of you, And

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Speaker 1: the truth is sorry, We're gonna have a little fun

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Speaker 1: at the expense of New York State governance right now.

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Speaker 2: That's just where this is going.

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Speaker 1: Because a lot of very wealthy people have become quite

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Speaker 1: annoyed with what's going on in New York.

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Speaker 2: Not just New York.

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Speaker 1: Washington State now has this millionaire's tax situation. Same thing California.

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Speaker 1: California just got so many taxes, all kinds of problems.

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Speaker 1: Kathy Hochel, who is honestly, somebody that you wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: in charge of the bake sale for the PTA, not

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Speaker 1: even the PTA. You wouldn't want her running the bake

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Speaker 1: sale to raise money, like you would not want this

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Speaker 1: woman in charge of anything of any consequence whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: She'd be burning the zucchini bread, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: And here she is.

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Speaker 1: Telling people that they need to move back to New York.

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Speaker 1: Wealthy people need to move back to New York so

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Speaker 1: they can fund welfare programs in New York.

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Speaker 2: Play eight.

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Speaker 8: There's this anxiety which is real, and we're continuing to

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Speaker 8: address the affordability crisis, which I believe she'd be the

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Speaker 8: number one priority of this legislative session. What can we

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Speaker 8: do to take off some of that pain that New

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Speaker 8: Yorkers are feeling that I hear about literally every day.

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Speaker 8: What I want to make sure we are smart about

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Speaker 8: is having a system in place where it's not just

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Speaker 8: taxing for the sake of taxing, and being conscious of

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Speaker 8: the facts that I need people who are high net

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Speaker 8: worth to support the generous social programs that we want

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Speaker 8: to have in our state. Right now, there are some

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Speaker 8: patriotic millionaires who stepped up. Okay, cut me the checks.

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Speaker 8: I mean, just if you want to be supportive, but

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Speaker 8: maybe the first step should be go down to Palm

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Speaker 8: Beach and see what you can bring back home.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's saying Florida, Florida has stolen her cash

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Speaker 1: cows and a lot of them are in poppies.

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Speaker 2: Why of them are here in Miami Beach. Let me

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Speaker 2: tell you.

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Speaker 1: I got neighbors, and they're in del Rey, and they're

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Speaker 1: in Boca Hey, a lot of places around here and Clay.

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Speaker 2: This is really I appreciate this.

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Speaker 1: She is so unsophisticated in so many ways that she's

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Speaker 1: just saying the truth here, which is New York or

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Speaker 1: former New Yorkers, please move back to New York so

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Speaker 1: you can be milked like the cows you are.

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Speaker 2: For the welfare state. That is her page.

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Speaker 5: And so we've told you this and it is going

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Speaker 5: too long. Range mean that states like Tennessee, Florida, Texas,

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Speaker 5: zero state income tax states are going to be far

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Speaker 5: more effective and well run than super high income tax

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Speaker 5: states that are losing. As you just heard Kathy Hokel say,

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Speaker 5: a lot of the base that has paid.

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Speaker 4: For all of the government to exist.

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Speaker 5: What was the data point you gave us buck that

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Speaker 5: New York I think has a little bit fewer people

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Speaker 5: now than Florida. Right, But Florida's government is half the

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Speaker 5: size of New York's. Well, Florida's budget is half the

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Speaker 5: size of New York's budget. And Florida has two to

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Speaker 5: three million more residents as a state.

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00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: Three million.

872
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: By the way, there are a lot of states that

873
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: barely have two or three million residents.

874
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 5: And as a general rule, how would you say as

875
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: a Florida resident that the Florida budget and the governance

876
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: is at running the money that they get, at basically

877
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 5: managing the taxpayer dollars.

878
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: Everything that involves the state of Florida is more efficient,

879
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: more reasonable, more sane compared to New York state level governance. Everything,

880
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: everything is easier, everything is smoother, everything makes more sense. Miami,

881
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: things get a little third world down here, but state

882
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: of Florida fantastic.

883
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: Okay, So, but building on that, you mentioned this stat

884
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: earlier and I saw it.

885
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: My aw dropped.

886
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 5: It's rare that I see a stat and I'm like,

887
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 5: oh my, I can't believe this is real. New York

888
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: is at New York City is spending more money than

889
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 5: the average.

890
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: New Yorker makes on homeless people. What is this math? Buck?

891
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: Eighty one thousand dollars a year, I believe was the

892
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 5: Uh So, all of you out there, you worked a

893
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: long time when not making eighty one thousand dollars a year. Buck,

894
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 5: I worked a long time not making eighty one thousand dollars.

895
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: Ye aspired to eighty one thousand. I was like, Oh,

896
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: my gosh, think about life at eighty k.

897
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: Yes, this is true.

898
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 5: A lot of you out there are aspiring to life

899
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 5: at eighty K.

900
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: Right.

901
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: That's a lot of money. That is what New York

902
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 5: is spending on homeless people. And you made this analogy earlier.

903
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 5: How many of you out there listening to us right

904
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 5: now in New York are busting your asses all day

905
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 5: long and you're not making eighty one K. And you're

906
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: looking around and you're saying, wait a minute, what does

907
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 5: the state doing that they're providing eighty one K a

908
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 5: year in support for homeless people.

909
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 4: This is just so flagrantly flawed.

910
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it would be better off, and this

911
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 5: would be an awful idea, But if the entire government

912
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 5: just got out of the way and they just gave

913
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 5: eighty seventy eight thousand dollars in cash. You would save

914
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 5: money if you just walked up and gave seventy eight

915
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: thousand dollars in cash to every homeless person.

916
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: I also, by the way, there's nothing there's nothing inherently

917
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: derogatory about the term homeless. Yeah, people clearly don't have homes.

918
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: This whole thing about unsheltered. Now, non housed is race,

919
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: unsheltered is the other the same thing. No, I'm sorry,

920
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: we're not doing this, Okay. The reason they're doing this

921
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: is because homeless, homelessness and homeless realities across this country.

922
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: People have learned more about this. They've started to understand

923
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: that almost all of the homeless, the truly homeless population,

924
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: almost all have either extreme substance abuse or extreme mental health,

925
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: or a combination of both issues and disorders. The stories

926
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: that you hear about a family of four kicked out

927
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: of their home, down on their luck, that can happen.

928
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: It does happen. I get it. It is rare.

929
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: And they don't stay homeless because there are programs and

930
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: there are you know this notion thankfull, I mean, but

931
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: there are things to help people get back on their feet,

932
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: and they tend to do.

933
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: So.

934
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 1: The real homelessness issue is people with severe mental health

935
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: and severe addiction issues overwhelmingly, so the stories about someone

936
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: lost their job, they're down on their luck one percent

937
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: of the unhoused or homeless population at any point in

938
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: time five percent. Maybe I think that might be too much.

939
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: It's people with those problems. Now, those are human beings

940
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: who deserve health too. I'm not saying otherwise. My point though,

941
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: is they're changing the definition truly, or they're changing the

942
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: terms we use of homeless because they don't don't want

943
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: people to think about the discussions about Like Gavin Newsom

944
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: said he's going to lower homelessness. That was the term

945
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: he was using in California over a ten year period,

946
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: it's like doubled. Yeah, So they're changing the words. So

947
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: it's like a new problem now, right, It's like, oh, well,

948
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: we're not dealing with the homelessness thing, Clay, because we

949
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: completely failed. Now we're dealing with the unhoused population. And

950
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. Eighty one thousand. This is from

951
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: the Comptroller of New York. This is you know, right

952
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: wing angry blogger dot net or something. This is from

953
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: the Controller of New York eighty one thousand dollars a

954
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: year per homeless person in New York.

955
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: Well, why are we spending I mean, think about should

956
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 2: we just give a check?

957
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Should you give a check for half of that forty

958
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: grand in cash to every homeless person one time payment?

959
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: There you go, lump sum.

960
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: You'll actually cut half of the expenditures to your point.

961
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: And you know what's a big part of this.

962
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 5: There are a lot of people who are doing nothing

963
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 5: to actually help homelessness that are being paid a lot

964
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 5: of money inside of that eighty one down where you

965
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 5: get this is the ugly true, This is the ugliness

966
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 5: of it. Okay, we're seeing this, my friends. Some people

967
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 5: are going to really start to pull these dots together.

968
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 5: I also think this is part of why Elon just

969
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: with the whole Doge thing, had kind of a like

970
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 5: a thermonuclear meltdown of there's just so much fraud and

971
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 5: so much waste and so much crap that it was

972
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 5: nobody unlike in a business where you would have as

973
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 5: somebody look at it and say, we can't run a

974
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: business like that.

975
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: We need that for our country and for our government.

976
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: I think Elon was truly just overwhelmed by the scale

977
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: of this and in his you know, his brain is

978
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: able to tackle these things at scale, and he's just like,

979
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: this is completely this monster is one hundred times larger

980
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: than I even realize. Anyway, A big part of this, notice, Clay,

981
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: the autistic like an autistic kids programs, the child daycare Somali.

982
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking, look at the autistic kids thing, and that's

983
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: in California. I think they've started looking at the spending

984
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: on these programs has gone absolutely stratospheric in recent years.

985
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: This is fraud, my friends. People are being paid a

986
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: lot of money to do nothing of public benefit, and

987
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: they're getting taxpayer dollars to do this. And you know

988
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: why the Democrats keep this going. It's a giant cash

989
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: cow for their constituents. What do you think if you

990
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: walk into some city funded homelessness program in New York,

991
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: what do you think the voting record are the people

992
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: that are getting checks from the city to run the program,

993
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: what do you think of vote? I bet it's ninety

994
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: five ninety nine percent Democrat. It's just like the public

995
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: school systems have become. Now, Clay, this is about vote harvesting,

996
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: This is about donations. This is power for the Democrat Party.

997
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: There is a homeless industrial complex now essentially of all

998
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: these NGOs and bureaucrats getting paid to not actually fix

999
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: the problem.

1000
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 5: And this is also ties in with the healthcare system

1001
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 5: being broken. There was a Wall Street Journal editorial saying

1002
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 5: ninety nine percent of one state I think it was

1003
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: Ohio of the fraud analysis, it was all fraud ninety

1004
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: nine percent. I also think, again, this goes to healthcare.

1005
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 5: Nobody knows what it costs. The government funds a ton

1006
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: of it, doesn't look at spending. There are people being

1007
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 5: paid six hundred dollars an hour to do autistic rehab

1008
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: that didn't actually have any kids with autism. I also

1009
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: think this ties in with an interesting question. We keep

1010
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: talking about how the number of kids with autism has skyrocketed.

1011
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 4: That's certainly true.

1012
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 5: How much of the autism diagnosises that we are seeing

1013
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 5: are completely made up and a function of being able

1014
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 5: to make money at four or five and six hundred

1015
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: dollars to do autism therapy.

1016
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: I mean some of these companies.

1017
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 5: You saw what happened in Minnesota, but I think the

1018
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 5: same thing is happening in California.

1019
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 4: These companies don't even.

1020
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 5: Have a physical location, they have a po box, and

1021
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 5: they're getting paid millions of dollars a year. They're not

1022
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 5: even pretending, just like you saw with the Somali daycares thing,

1023
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 5: remember Buck, it is interesting. No one has come out

1024
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 5: that I've seen and said, hey, my family lost daycare.

1025
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 5: Leave aside whether you think the government should be involved

1026
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: in Smali daycares at all. If they were actually doing

1027
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: Somemali daycare, wouldn't tons of people have come out and said,

1028
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 5: oh my goodness, the kid's daycare.

1029
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: I can't go, I.

1030
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 5: Can't go to I haven't seen anything about this. This

1031
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: was all a sham, and it's a function of government

1032
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 5: not being well run enough for people to notice where

1033
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 5: all the money is going. It's just it's infuriating for

1034
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 5: anybody out there that pays taxes.

1035
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 4: It really is.

1036
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: It's it's astonishing. And what you realize is that and

1037
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: this is a this is a pretty stark realization, but

1038
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: it's true.

1039
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: We think about fixing this.

1040
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: Not only are Democrats unwilling to fix it, they don't

1041
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: want it to be fixed. Yes, they believe that this

1042
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: is a redistribution of wealth to people who should get

1043
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: the money they want homeless administrators on the city, you know,

1044
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: getting getting their budget paid for by the city by

1045
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: the taxpayers. They want them making three four six hundred grand.

1046
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 5: About how crazy it is that New York is spending

1047
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 5: more money, more than eighty one thousand dollars a year

1048
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 5: for every homeless person.

1049
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: I mean, it should be infuriating.

1050
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: Every average household New York City, people who are working,

1051
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: people who are showing up.

1052
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: And we've all been there.

1053
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: I have showed up to jobs on mornings where I

1054
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: hated so much I thought I was gonna throw up.

1055
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I just like, I'm not making any money.

1056
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: This sucks.

1057
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: We've all been But you show up and you suck

1058
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: it up, and you do it. You do it for

1059
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: your family, You do it for you know, the people

1060
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: around you who are counting on you. Eighty grand going

1061
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: to every you know, spend for every individual homeless person.

1062
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: What are they doing? Yeah, well, where is all the money?

1063
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: Think about this, How can that be possible? Where's all

1064
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: the money going? We know what it is in the

1065
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: public school system. The public school system in New York

1066
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: pays more than most private schools cost a loss the

1067
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: country per pupil. You know where the money goes bloated

1068
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: administrators making one hundred and fifty grand to show up,

1069
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: sit at a desk, do nothing all day. There are

1070
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of them.

1071
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 5: And it's crazy how many people system don't teach, don't do,

1072
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: and don't do anything and are just administrators.

1073
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: It goes to vice principles of a district. There's a

1074
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: vice principal what.

1075
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 9: Like, you know, in case someone needs to step in

1076
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 9: for the principle, like vice principles and vice chancellors and

1077
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 9: all this stuff. We're making two three hundred grand to

1078
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 9: be working for the public school system of New York

1079
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 9: or New Jersey or any of these states. Oh and

1080
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 9: you can retire after twenty years and you get all

1081
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 9: your benefits and everything paid for.

1082
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean friends.

1083
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 1: By the way, this is also where all your city

1084
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: taxes and state taxes are going as well. And you

1085
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: know what the game is at the end of all

1086
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: this play federal bailout. It's coming. You get a Gavin

1087
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Speaker 1: Newsom administration. What do you think he's gonna leave California

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Speaker 1: high and dry with its budget deficit? Oh no more,

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Speaker 1: They'll just more.

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Speaker 5: That's a good point because thankfully most states have to

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Speaker 5: have balance budgets, but a lot of cities have ended

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Speaker 5: up going bankrupt, and again the federal government doesn't, so

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Speaker 5: of the federal government. I saw today we hit thirty

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Speaker 5: nine trillion national debt. That the number today now is

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Speaker 5: thirty nine trillion. And what percentage of that money do

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Speaker 5: you think has been well spent? Again, much we could

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Speaker 5: strip seventy five percent of all government and be better off.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think that there's zero doubt about that.

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