Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Welcome to another edition of Nerdifficent. I am
Speaker 1: one of your hosts and I am the other host.
Speaker 1: I'm the first host, Danny Fernandez. That just with speaking.
Speaker 1: Today we are we're talking about if you what are
Speaker 1: we talking about? Um? Today we're talking about something that
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have been asking for long,
Speaker 1: franchise people want to hear it. Today we're talking about
Speaker 1: Wild Arms, the set in the Western the JRPG, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite RPG franchises. Today we are talking about
Speaker 1: Tenchi Muyo, which, yeah, today we're talking about big oh um.
Speaker 1: These are all things that you're gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do that. But when you said that, though, could
Speaker 1: you also cover Today we are talking about The Great
Speaker 1: Mouse Detective actually one of the not as well respected
Speaker 1: but should be Disney animated films. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: dragon Ball franchise. Yes, we're talking about the dragon Ball franchise,
Speaker 1: the franchise that's so huge that it doesn't fit into
Speaker 1: one episode. This episode is going to cover just the
Speaker 1: franchise as a whole, a little bit about a curatory AMA,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna sit down with our good friend
Speaker 1: Kylie bear Uh and talk about just what it was
Speaker 1: like working on that franchise. This won't go deep in
Speaker 1: a dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, dragon Ball GT, dragon
Speaker 1: Ball Kidgona Super. Yeah, no, those are those have to
Speaker 1: be its own episodes. But this is for everyone listening
Speaker 1: and who may have just been wondering, like, what is
Speaker 1: this dragon Ball Z thing I keep hearing about? This hype? This?
Speaker 1: This will give you a crash course into it, and
Speaker 1: then one by one you'll get to go deeper. This
Speaker 1: is the the preface. I'm not the preface. This is
Speaker 1: dragon Ball one on one. But also if you are
Speaker 1: a huge, massive fan, like if he and I are,
Speaker 1: and just to give our background, if he and I
Speaker 1: started podcasting together with a dragon Ball Z show called
Speaker 1: krill in It because Krillan is a character from dragon
Speaker 1: Ball from this franchise, so we had we we actually
Speaker 1: dissected each episode already on that podcast, and then we
Speaker 1: had a dragon Ball Super podcast called krillin It's Super,
Speaker 1: which was also live and interactive on hyper RPG. So
Speaker 1: we have extensively covered this and we do love it
Speaker 1: a lot, and if you're like us and love it
Speaker 1: a lot, we want to talk about why we love it.
Speaker 1: The history of it and the present and the future
Speaker 1: of it. But as far as deep diving into each
Speaker 1: particular saga and character and all of that, that's going
Speaker 1: to have to be another episode. Yeah, no, it's it's long.
Speaker 1: I said, it's not even just being funny. It just
Speaker 1: really is a very deep, dense history which is gonna
Speaker 1: be funny based on a few things we talked about today,
Speaker 1: because unbeknownst to me, just with the research, it turns
Speaker 1: out that this is another goofy thing that seemed to
Speaker 1: get deeper through time. It wasn't it wasn't meant to
Speaker 1: be as as deep as as one is taking it now.
Speaker 1: But buckle up, we're gonna talk about a little little
Speaker 1: man who was born in Nagoya, Japan, and when he
Speaker 1: was in elementary school, all his classmates drew imitating anime
Speaker 1: and manga as a result of not having many forms
Speaker 1: of entertainment, and he believes that he began to advance
Speaker 1: above everyone else when he started drawing pictures of his
Speaker 1: friends after winning a prize at the local arts studio
Speaker 1: for a picture of one and one Dalmatians began to
Speaker 1: think art was fun. That it was a lot of
Speaker 1: time between when he started drawing too when he thought
Speaker 1: art was fun. According to this article, there are so
Speaker 1: many blogs, articles, and videos about the man that is
Speaker 1: a Curatoryama. Yeah. What I wanted to say, honestly before
Speaker 1: we even got started, was that I feel that Dragon
Speaker 1: Ball Z in particular, which in my opinion from being
Speaker 1: in the community, is the biggest, most notorious of all
Speaker 1: of the dragon Ball shows. I feel like z is
Speaker 1: is one of the big although Super is getting up
Speaker 1: there now, and I'm sure Dragonball people are going to
Speaker 1: write me. I understand that as as well, but just
Speaker 1: here in America because Dragon Ball Z was a thing
Speaker 1: that was introduced onto Nami. I actually think they had
Speaker 1: it four kids. Um what I was gonna say is
Speaker 1: that it's so people will write me and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: because I I have Goku and Vegeta, who are two
Speaker 1: characters that will talk about a little bit, but um,
Speaker 1: I have them tattooed on me, and people will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a norm e anime, this mainstream anime, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: it's mainstream now, But a curatory Yama ended up influencing
Speaker 1: so all of the anime and manga that you're Super into. Now,
Speaker 1: that's like Nietzs and maybe it's like newer and coming
Speaker 1: out and you're like, oh, I love this. Probably influenced
Speaker 1: by him in some way. Like some of the biggest
Speaker 1: franchises that have come in the last decade or so
Speaker 1: have been heavily even their creators have said they were
Speaker 1: heavily influenced by a curator Yama. So I just needed
Speaker 1: to add a little bit of respect on our man
Speaker 1: before we continued. I mean, I feel like that's just
Speaker 1: a part of just anime fans in general. I remember
Speaker 1: when Kanye tweeted out that the creator of a Kira
Speaker 1: was A was a genius, and someone replied to that
Speaker 1: tweet where it's like, Kanye, please watch sword art online.
Speaker 1: It's a better anime. My brain almost exploded after reading that.
Speaker 1: But it's just but it's funny because it seems like
Speaker 1: it's a anime specific thing. But I think it is
Speaker 1: a specific to pop culture where you have your thing,
Speaker 1: and your thing is your favorite thing, so you have
Speaker 1: to fight that it's the best thing. That's why you
Speaker 1: have Star Trek versus Star Wars when the real winners
Speaker 1: actually Battlestar Galactica. Yeah, much more mature, much more Actually,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I haven't even watched that much Battlestar Galactica,
Speaker 1: but it's been though. It's been the one that I've
Speaker 1: gravitated towards him, like this is cool cylons baby, yeah
Speaker 1: but yeah but yeah no um a curetor. Yama actually
Speaker 1: didn't just even though he thought art was fun, he
Speaker 1: didn't just jump and he was one of those people
Speaker 1: who just started doing animation. And that's his whole story.
Speaker 1: He actually worked at an advertising agency in Nagoya, design
Speaker 1: and posters for three years. After quitting his previous job.
Speaker 1: Storyama entered the manga industry by submitting a work to
Speaker 1: an amateur contest and a Jump magazine in order her
Speaker 1: to win the prize money. That is so interesting to
Speaker 1: me because these are multiple instances that we have a
Speaker 1: curatory Yama winning contests with his art, and it almost
Speaker 1: feels like that might be a part of what influences
Speaker 1: the idea of Dragon ball Z, of just this constant contest,
Speaker 1: but of strength. I think he got a job from
Speaker 1: being that good. He's gotten, you know, he got he
Speaker 1: won an award when he first learned how to draw
Speaker 1: because he was that good. It's just super interesting. Even
Speaker 1: though he won the contest when he was a kid,
Speaker 1: he did not win this contest. Uh. And while he
Speaker 1: did not win, Kaziko Torishima, who would later become his editor,
Speaker 1: contacted him and gave him encouragement. And then his debut
Speaker 1: came later in eight with the story Wonder Island, which
Speaker 1: was published in Weekly Shown and Jump, which still runs
Speaker 1: till this day. Yeah, and so just go back on.
Speaker 1: Shown In, which we've talked about in previous episodes but
Speaker 1: shown in manga, is essentially similar to Calm, Etcetered geared
Speaker 1: towards young males, but um, you know us ladies like
Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, I know they separated by shown in
Speaker 1: and Show Jim, Show Joe. I think, yeah, Show Joe
Speaker 1: and shown in. But dudes like Show Joe, I bet,
Speaker 1: Especially because it's geared towards young people. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's going on over there with those shirtless men. That's
Speaker 1: honestly why I think it's funny. Whenever people would be
Speaker 1: like Dragon ball Z is for boys, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: they're like shirtless, They're like buff as hell. And I'm
Speaker 1: very confused. Slash aroused by this in middle school, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, my favorite dudes and skin tight spandex. That's
Speaker 1: vegeta who will get into but yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah
Speaker 1: so so even though he had his debut and shown
Speaker 1: and Jump, he didn't really rise to popularity until the
Speaker 1: comedy series Dr Slump, which was serialized and weekly shown
Speaker 1: and Jumped from eight to four. And it follows the
Speaker 1: adventures of a perverted professor, which that that that's a
Speaker 1: common thread. That's a common thread with Toryama. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: his small but super strong robot. He began the series
Speaker 1: at age twenty five while living at home with his parents,
Speaker 1: but when the series ended in nineteen eighty four, he
Speaker 1: was a manga superstar. I think he was actually a multimillionaire.
Speaker 1: But really, yeah, that's super crazy. Well, I mean it
Speaker 1: was made into an animated series. I mean it was
Speaker 1: made into anime. Yeah. Yeah. He actually ended up going
Speaker 1: on to win award for Dr Slump it earned him
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty one, it earned him the Shogakukan Manga
Speaker 1: Award for Best Shown in the Show. Joe Manga Series
Speaker 1: of the Year, a very successful anime adaptation aired on
Speaker 1: TV from nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty six, with
Speaker 1: a remake series airing from seven to ninety nine, and
Speaker 1: by two thousand and eight, the manga had sold over
Speaker 1: thirty five million copies in Japan. This is interesting too
Speaker 1: because this is just for all intensive purposes up until
Speaker 1: you know. Dragon Ball really took off his most popular property.
Speaker 1: It is, it is his bread and butter. Yet most
Speaker 1: people know a curatory ama from the dragon Ball series,
Speaker 1: and I think that has more so to do with
Speaker 1: the import aspect, because I feel like early anime that
Speaker 1: was being imported to the U s it was the
Speaker 1: serious stuff. You didn't get the like comedy stuff coming
Speaker 1: to the US. Uh, except for um Canuku Man. I
Speaker 1: feel like Anukuman made it here. But that was that
Speaker 1: I felt as far as growing up for me, that
Speaker 1: was the closest I got to comedy anime. Uh. If
Speaker 1: anyone grew up on some comedy anime, please let me know.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know what you got. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: dr slant was something I kind of slept on. I
Speaker 1: I didn't even like. There are some people who like
Speaker 1: find a work and then find everything else they're creator
Speaker 1: has created and they'll find it that. I don't do
Speaker 1: that much often, and I liked Dragon Ball Z, specifically
Speaker 1: dragon Ball Z. I haven't even went back and watched
Speaker 1: all of dragon Ball. Like dragon Ball Z has the
Speaker 1: double whammy for me, it's the excitement and the nostalgia.
Speaker 1: I'm sure dragon Ball is exciting. Actually, I've watched more
Speaker 1: dragon Ball than I realized because I always thought the
Speaker 1: Garlic Junior saga took place in dragon Ball Z, but
Speaker 1: it actually it was a dragon Ball saga, So who knows?
Speaker 1: It's it's all the same, literally all the same, because
Speaker 1: just jumping ahead a bit, dragon Ball Z basically was
Speaker 1: just the later versions of dragon Ball. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: would argue that they're so different tonally, where dragon Ball
Speaker 1: is much more comedic and kind of lighthearted to some extent,
Speaker 1: whereas dragon Ball Z is much more serious. I feel
Speaker 1: like dragon Ball honestly has kind of more adult humor
Speaker 1: and gags than I feel like Z does, And I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that was the tonal shift that added
Speaker 1: the Z. But I feel like it's not insane for
Speaker 1: a series to switch its tone. I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of series nowadays. We'll start off trying to think
Speaker 1: of a recent series that started off kind of light
Speaker 1: and then it got dark, and you're like, what happened.
Speaker 1: I think definitely in the same boat as anime. I
Speaker 1: think doublemn cry Baby starts off and presents a completely
Speaker 1: different anime than we land off. When we get to
Speaker 1: the finale, I'm like, oh, yeah, it got me. It
Speaker 1: got me with the doo wop in Weekly Shonen Jump
Speaker 1: began serializing Toriyama's Dragon Ball, which became an instant hit. Today,
Speaker 1: it has sold over one hundred and fifty six million
Speaker 1: copies in Japan alone. I used to buy it here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it began as an adventure gag manga, but later
Speaker 1: turned into a martial arts fighting series. Considered many to
Speaker 1: be the most influential shown in manga. Dragon Ball was
Speaker 1: one of the main reasons for the magazine circulation hitting
Speaker 1: a record high of six point five three million copies.
Speaker 1: That's just that's really cool. Like that's insane that he
Speaker 1: just like put out this this insanely successful with Dr
Speaker 1: Slump manga and then immediately followed up with Dragon Ball.
Speaker 1: I mean he was like on cloud not he was
Speaker 1: on Nimbus. Now, Nimbus is Nimbus for everyone that doesn't know,
Speaker 1: is the cloud that Goku rides on that you have
Speaker 1: to be pure of Hearted in order to ride um So.
Speaker 1: The series success encouraged Toriyama to continue working on it
Speaker 1: from four to nine. At the series end, Toriyama said
Speaker 1: that he asked everyone involved to let him end the manga.
Speaker 1: He was like, just let me end it. He's done
Speaker 1: that before though. Two Yeah, like we'll later see that
Speaker 1: in Dragon Ball Z. I feel like as well. But
Speaker 1: people just love it so much, and I think he's
Speaker 1: just I think at times he's ready to close that
Speaker 1: chapter of his life or even in instances where he's
Speaker 1: like killed off a character and it was like, no,
Speaker 1: this was the right thing he said, so he could
Speaker 1: quote take some new steps in life. Yeah. No, It's
Speaker 1: it's so interesting because this is the second thing I
Speaker 1: love that the creator is going through this. One of
Speaker 1: my top favorite bands of all time is The Gorillas,
Speaker 1: and it's a if you don't know what the Gorillas are,
Speaker 1: it's a cartoon band led by Damon Alburn and he
Speaker 1: collaborates with a ton of amazing musicians to make good
Speaker 1: music and originally started as this fake cartoon band. There
Speaker 1: was a story behind it, and the veil was up.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was Damon Alburn, even though
Speaker 1: it's they sound identical, but I wanted to believe it
Speaker 1: the same way I won't look at any pictures of
Speaker 1: Daft punk with their masks off. I would do any
Speaker 1: like research into who's behind the Gorillas because I liked
Speaker 1: keeping up that that mystery. But as popular as the
Speaker 1: Gorilla's got, Damon Alburn hated it. It It was it was
Speaker 1: kind of like his I don't want to say hated it,
Speaker 1: but he kind of grew tired of it. He wanted
Speaker 1: to do other musical ventures. He didn't want to do, uh,
Speaker 1: the Gorillas, and he kept leaving and he kept us
Speaker 1: hanging so many times where I remember he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm I won't do the Gorillas until I do a
Speaker 1: Blur album, and he keeps leaving and coming back. And
Speaker 1: the way the Gorillas are now is such a far
Speaker 1: cry from where it started. Where now it's like very
Speaker 1: obviously Damon collaborating with people. Where I feel like from
Speaker 1: Gorillas to about Demon Days is when like they kept
Speaker 1: the ruse of this cartoon band going and then there's
Speaker 1: beef with the artist, so same thing here. I feel
Speaker 1: like a curatory almost like I'm done with this. I
Speaker 1: need to make something else, especially coming off of one
Speaker 1: banger series to another banger series, you would imagine he's like,
Speaker 1: I want to see if I can do another being
Speaker 1: a creative art like a creative person, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like also, just like if I look at
Speaker 1: him as a creative it makes sense that he wants
Speaker 1: to move on with the different storylines move you know,
Speaker 1: right out, certain characters move on with like it just
Speaker 1: it makes sense that that he would want to And
Speaker 1: we're the ones are like no, please give us Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also it makes sense to me, like the math
Speaker 1: here makes sense because dr Slump comedy hit dragon Ball
Speaker 1: starts off as a comedy, then it gets serious and
Speaker 1: then everyone's on board. It's blowing up and he's like, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I want to do comedy. So it really does make sense.
Speaker 1: And if you notice in Super the comedy ramps up.
Speaker 1: That was one of the most important things to him.
Speaker 1: That is very true about a curatory Ama is that
Speaker 1: he has said that the humor is one of the
Speaker 1: most important things of his franchise, and even um Toyo Taro,
Speaker 1: who worked on Dragon Ball Super, said that that was
Speaker 1: one of the most important things to him, was the humor.
Speaker 1: So you're exactly correct, and it's funny because that's not
Speaker 1: exactly why some of us watch it or or when
Speaker 1: you think of dragon Ball, definitely think of comedy, but
Speaker 1: I think of dragon Ball Z that's not the first
Speaker 1: thing would be there. But yeah, So just to wrap
Speaker 1: up this, during that eleven year period, he produced five
Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen chapters god that were collected into forty
Speaker 1: two volumes. So the success of the manga led to
Speaker 1: five anime adaptation, several animated movies, numerous video games, and
Speaker 1: a ton of merchandise. So we should get into what
Speaker 1: these are. What is dragon Ball? So again we said
Speaker 1: it was created in nineteen eight four. Dragon Ball was
Speaker 1: initially inspired by the classic Chinese novel Journey to the West.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of elements from Journey to the West
Speaker 1: that are in dragon Ball. The series follows the adventures
Speaker 1: of the protagonists son Goku from his childhood through adulthood.
Speaker 1: Mainly his childhood, i would say, is the majority of
Speaker 1: dragon Ball, as he trains in martial arts and explores
Speaker 1: the world in search of the seven orbs known as
Speaker 1: the Dragon Balls, which essentially, when you gather all seven
Speaker 1: the dragon balls, a wish granting dragon named Schanron appears
Speaker 1: and will grant you your wishes. Another fun connection between
Speaker 1: this and the Gorillas, Oh my gosh, so much. Jamie
Speaker 1: Auburn went on to produce Monkey Journey to the West,
Speaker 1: which was a stage adaptation of that story. A lot
Speaker 1: of the art for it, to the promo art and
Speaker 1: stuff leading up to the Journey to the West was
Speaker 1: done by the artists of the Gorillas, Jamie Hewlett. So
Speaker 1: in my eyes they're in the same universe. And if
Speaker 1: you if Jamie Hewlett doesn't jump out at you right away,
Speaker 1: Jamie Hewlett was the artist of tank Girl. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so the art for Grillas is so good. The new
Speaker 1: artists so good and uh and I love everything around
Speaker 1: the Grill is the lord that used to have a
Speaker 1: flash website. If you are you trying to hijack this
Speaker 1: episode and make it a Gorilla's episode. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: just my longstanding plot to prove that the dragon Ball
Speaker 1: universe and Gorillas universe. Well, you know what, if I
Speaker 1: will say that Goku when he looks at a full moon,
Speaker 1: because he has something called a saying, which is an
Speaker 1: alien from a warrior race. They have tales and they
Speaker 1: turn into giant apes when they look at the moon. Henceforth, therefore,
Speaker 1: in conclusion, they are gorillas. Okay, And if you would
Speaker 1: have let him just loose for a little bit, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you would have grabbed a guitar start singing. So
Speaker 1: that's dragon Ball mainly. I when I'm explaining dragon Ball
Speaker 1: to people, Goku when he's when he's younger, Goku as
Speaker 1: a kid, I'm sure this is very triggering to dragon
Speaker 1: Ball fit. That is not all it is. It's not
Speaker 1: all it is. There's so much. We were introduction to Boma,
Speaker 1: who is a brilliant scientist and a teenager who invents
Speaker 1: the Dragonball radar. She ends up inventing the time machine.
Speaker 1: Everyone always asked me, like, who I think the most
Speaker 1: influential character, most important character is in this franchise, And
Speaker 1: I say, Boma. Without Boma, you don't have the radar
Speaker 1: to find the dragon Balls. But also, she invented the
Speaker 1: time machine that they later used. She invented an antidote
Speaker 1: that saved Goku. She tamed a wild ruly man and
Speaker 1: made a small child who ends up saving the world.
Speaker 1: So moving on to dragon Ball Z Yeah. Instead of
Speaker 1: continuing the anime as dragon Ball Toey Animation decided to
Speaker 1: carry on with their adaptation under a new name and
Speaker 1: asked a curatory im to come up with the title,
Speaker 1: and he came up with dragon Ball Z specifically because
Speaker 1: he wanted it to be his last dragon Ball that
Speaker 1: he did because, like I said, Toyama did not want
Speaker 1: to do this. No, I don't know about that. I
Speaker 1: felt like he was done with it. He was like
Speaker 1: he was he was done. It was like that scene.
Speaker 1: This is another reference that you may or may not get,
Speaker 1: but it was like that's Sen and Man on the
Speaker 1: Moon when he's trying out new material. The Man on
Speaker 1: the Moon was about Andy Kaufman. And then he did
Speaker 1: the show Taxi. He didn't want to do the show
Speaker 1: Taxi because he's that weird kind of comic who's like,
Speaker 1: I do this weird comedy. I don't do sitcoms. He
Speaker 1: does it. He's trying to do material on stage and
Speaker 1: they keep asking him to do this character from Taxi,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's Howtoryama had to have felt
Speaker 1: with people asking Dragon Balls and he's like, I got
Speaker 1: these new drawings. I've been at this point. I've been
Speaker 1: working on these dope games, dragon Quests don't y'all want
Speaker 1: a dragon quest and I mean, no, give less dragon
Speaker 1: Ball Z. Yeah, well, I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: he still wanted to at least carry he loves that
Speaker 1: man loves Goku, like really, at least from the interviews
Speaker 1: and stuff that I read. I can't speak for him,
Speaker 1: but I can tell he he don't have the same
Speaker 1: love for Vegeta. Okay, he doesn't have the same love
Speaker 1: for Vegeta. He definitely loves Goku, and I think he
Speaker 1: did actually want to carry on his legacy. And so
Speaker 1: dragon Ball Z follows Goku now as an adult and
Speaker 1: he is now a dad. It picks up five years
Speaker 1: after dragon Ball left off. It premiered in Japan on
Speaker 1: April nine, nine, taking over dragon Ball slot, and ran
Speaker 1: for two hundred and nine one episodes. I want to
Speaker 1: tell you guys something when when Because I went on
Speaker 1: Machinima's show to teach them about dragon Ball and they
Speaker 1: just asked me, like my top three favorite episodes and
Speaker 1: the like, you can't give those to them. You have
Speaker 1: to they have to watch the whole thing in order
Speaker 1: to understand. I'm like, no, no, no no, no, honey, none
Speaker 1: of my friends are gonna sit down and watch two
Speaker 1: nine one episodes of something. If I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: introduce it to them, like it's it's a bit much
Speaker 1: to ask when they also are watching Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: and all of Marvel, Netflix and the c w d
Speaker 1: C shows and like, you know and and uh my
Speaker 1: Hero Academian and you know. So anyways, One punch Man
Speaker 1: Attack on Titans. So I just want to say, asking
Speaker 1: someone to watch two episodes, which Iffy and I tried
Speaker 1: to do for our Dragon Ball Z are krilling it man.
Speaker 1: By the time we got dynamic with was a whole
Speaker 1: saga where they were traveling to Planet Namic, which took
Speaker 1: up many episodes. It was a bit much. I will
Speaker 1: mention that every anime that you listed is an easier
Speaker 1: watch than to try and watch all the dragon ball
Speaker 1: Z like Attack on Titans only going on his third season.
Speaker 1: One punch Man only has one season, Hero three. You
Speaker 1: can you can watch all of those. Do you love
Speaker 1: my shown in theme? I don't know why. I just
Speaker 1: gravitate towards that. I mean, because it's great. I was
Speaker 1: also like, it's so funny. I really like One punch Man.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it, But you do have to go and watch,
Speaker 1: like my hero dragon Ball Z all the animals to
Speaker 1: really really appreciate one punch man. Yeah, because it's making
Speaker 1: fun of them. Yeah, because my buddy watched it and
Speaker 1: he's able to enjoy it without seeing any anime. But
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm sure there's jokes I'm missing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, like, my favorite one is when Gino is
Speaker 1: telling his life story and side Tom is like, shut up,
Speaker 1: Like because it is true and anime every character has
Speaker 1: to tell you their life story when you meet them,
Speaker 1: and that was funny on the nose joke. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Dragon Ball Z follows the adventures of adult Goku along
Speaker 1: with his companions and as he defends the Earth against villains,
Speaker 1: just like Dragon Ball and moving on to Dragon Ball GT.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't wanna dabble in the introduction of
Speaker 1: your boy vegeta. I feel like, when you're real quick,
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand why you might want to focus
Speaker 1: on Goku has the greatest charnector arc here, but it's
Speaker 1: the arguably more character development and Goku because Goku doesn't
Speaker 1: need it. Why fix what ain't broken. You can't relate
Speaker 1: to someone that's pure of hard than doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Superman and Goku. I relate to both of them. He does,
Speaker 1: you are a very naughty person. I followed you on Twitter.
Speaker 1: There's no way you'd be able to stand on nimbus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can't. That's very confusing to me as a man
Speaker 1: who has made two children. He can see he's still
Speaker 1: pure of heart because doing doing the deed, because he
Speaker 1: had no idea. Goku, in case we haven't clarified, is
Speaker 1: not the brightest bulb, but he's like your little brother
Speaker 1: that's dumb, and you love him because he has a
Speaker 1: big heart and just just a little more clear for
Speaker 1: anyone who maybe has never seen Dragon ball Z, the
Speaker 1: whole kind of story of Goku is he is so
Speaker 1: the same race is a race of aliens who conquer planets,
Speaker 1: and when he gets to Earth, he bumps his head
Speaker 1: forgets his memory, and it seems like it does a
Speaker 1: little more than make him forget his memory. He's a
Speaker 1: little he's he's kind of like the doofy strong character
Speaker 1: that you've come to see in a lot of me.
Speaker 1: Like almost in a sense, said Tomas, like because I
Speaker 1: Toma is caring about the cell. But when he has
Speaker 1: to kick someone's but he kicks it in gear and
Speaker 1: I think that's a very fine example of the type
Speaker 1: of character that Goku is. And even if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen Dragon Ball Z, but you've watched anime, you've seen
Speaker 1: that character before. Vegeta is almost the complete opposite. He
Speaker 1: is a very driven. He has a very which is
Speaker 1: funny because I imagine a character like ready for the discussion,
Speaker 1: but hear me out. I feel like Narto shares a
Speaker 1: lot more traits then Vegeta, even though you see a
Speaker 1: lot of Vegeta traits in Sousc, I feel like the
Speaker 1: the kind of desire to get stronger for a goal
Speaker 1: is something you don't see in Goku. I feel like
Speaker 1: Goku wants to get stronger for fun, and that kind
Speaker 1: of driven for a goal is that you see in
Speaker 1: a character like not at the is kind of more
Speaker 1: of a Vegeta thing. And then you go full Vegeta
Speaker 1: with south Gate, which is like I need to be
Speaker 1: better than you, um, which is Vegeta's drive one percent
Speaker 1: Batman Goku Superman, So they have that dynamic Vegeta Tony
Speaker 1: Stark Goku Captain America. Yeah, wholesome. So if he I
Speaker 1: do think that we need to get into dragon Ball GT,
Speaker 1: dragon Ball Kai, dragon Ball No, No, it's dragon Ball
Speaker 1: GT isn't on my list. I only have a dragon
Speaker 1: Ball KAI. So I guess we'll skip dragon Ball GT. Well,
Speaker 1: you know the thing you need to know about dragon
Speaker 1: Ball GT is that alright, let I can just give
Speaker 1: you the first sentences on our research and then should
Speaker 1: tell you everything you need to know. Unlike the first
Speaker 1: two anime series, it is not based on the Cura
Speaker 1: Toyama's original Dragon Ball manga, being created by Toya Animation
Speaker 1: as a sequel to the series, or as Toriyama called it,
Speaker 1: a grand side story of the original Dragon Ball Toriyama
Speaker 1: designed the main cast, the spaceship used in the show,
Speaker 1: the design of the three plan it's, and came up
Speaker 1: with the title and logo. In addition to this, Toryama
Speaker 1: also oversaw production of the series, just as he had
Speaker 1: for the dragon Ball and dragon Ball Z anime. Five
Speaker 1: years after the end of the dragon Ball Z anime,
Speaker 1: ten years in the Funnimation, dub Doku is turned back
Speaker 1: into a child by the Black Star dragon Balls used
Speaker 1: by Pelf and is forced to travel across the universe
Speaker 1: to retrieve them, along with his granddaughter Pan and Trunks.
Speaker 1: The trio go through various adventures in their journey to
Speaker 1: find the black Star dragon Ball until they encountered Baby,
Speaker 1: the evil artificial toughl who intends to destroy the saying race,
Speaker 1: there's a lot more dragon Ball than that. You got Ka,
Speaker 1: you got Super And we'll touch on that a little
Speaker 1: bit with a friend, Collie Bear. Right after these messages,
Speaker 1: welcome back to our introduction to the dragon Ball franchise,
Speaker 1: and we are going to talk about dragon Ball Kai.
Speaker 1: Dragon Ball Kai was actually pretty popular. It's something that
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a It's a shortened remastered version
Speaker 1: of dragon Ball Z. And when my friends asked me
Speaker 1: how to get into dragon Ball Z, I normally point
Speaker 1: them to Kai. I actually, truthfully, very honestly point them
Speaker 1: to the movies. So the movies are typically about an hour.
Speaker 1: They stand alone from the series, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a much easier way if you're trying to give people
Speaker 1: kind of like a quick glimpse into the series, is
Speaker 1: to introduce them to a movie as opposed to the
Speaker 1: entire series. But if they are wanting to go down
Speaker 1: that road, I normally tell them about Kai. So In
Speaker 1: February two thou nine, dragon Ball Z celebrated its twentieth
Speaker 1: anniversary and uh they rebrought so Toy Animation announced that
Speaker 1: it would broadcast a re edited and remastered version under
Speaker 1: the name Dragon Ball Kai. So the footage would be
Speaker 1: re edited to follow the manga more closely, eliminating scenes
Speaker 1: and episodes which were not featured in the original manga,
Speaker 1: result teen in a more faithful adaptation as well as
Speaker 1: a faster moving and more focused story. So people that
Speaker 1: don't know, Dragon Ball Z is notorious for having filler episodes.
Speaker 1: Their episodes where nothing really happens, and I personally love
Speaker 1: them because I feel like it's a slice of life
Speaker 1: into the characters. And the reason why is because they
Speaker 1: were making the show quicker than they were making the manga,
Speaker 1: so they had run out at that point and so
Speaker 1: they had to do filler episodes while they were waiting
Speaker 1: for the manga to be released. Yeah, this isn't unique
Speaker 1: to dragon Ball Z either. This is something that has
Speaker 1: happened and not though and a lot of shows, which
Speaker 1: is why the anime is usually run a lot longer
Speaker 1: than the manga's because they have to feel they have
Speaker 1: to fill the time between the story with filler episodes,
Speaker 1: which is why you get an episode of dragon Ball Z.
Speaker 1: We're Goku in Piccolo. Piccolo is a green the Machian
Speaker 1: alien from the planet Namic and I go to the
Speaker 1: d m V. They go to the d m V
Speaker 1: and they learned how to drive even though they can fly.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a great episode, great outfits, highly recommended,
Speaker 1: probably one of the most popular filler episodes. I agree.
Speaker 1: Dragon Ball Z KAI reduced the episode count to one nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's from two. Remember we said dragon Ball Z originally
Speaker 1: has two episode. So they cut all a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff out and just kind of got to the meat
Speaker 1: and it's at one and fifty nine. They also damaged
Speaker 1: frames were removed and they yeah, they made it prettier.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of Actually, the remastered the Vegeta
Speaker 1: and Goku fight is beautiful, one of my favorites. Then
Speaker 1: we were blessed, truly, We're truly blessed because on April
Speaker 1: fift Toey Animation announced that Dragon Ball Super, the first
Speaker 1: all new dragon Ball television series to be released in
Speaker 1: eighteen years. Oh we waited. That's a full grown adult, yes,
Speaker 1: and a debuted on July five and ran as a
Speaker 1: weekly series at nine am on Fuji TV on Sundays
Speaker 1: until it's series finale on March this year. It was
Speaker 1: after one hundred and thirty one episodes. When you're a
Speaker 1: dragon Ball fan, you are committed. Okay, you are committed.
Speaker 1: How many episodes does Friends have? I don't know, Seinfeld,
Speaker 1: but we're looking at each of these, each of these series.
Speaker 1: We're talking dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, g T. If
Speaker 1: you're into that, Ky, if you're into that too, and Super,
Speaker 1: I mean you're a committed fan to watch all of this.
Speaker 1: So so the story is set in the years after
Speaker 1: Majin Boo, which was a character which was a villain
Speaker 1: and the dragon Ball Z series, and the Earth has
Speaker 1: once again become peaceful so cured. Toyama is credited obviously
Speaker 1: as the original creator as well for the original story
Speaker 1: and character design concepts. Dragon Ball Super follows the adventures
Speaker 1: again of Goku and his friends, but this time Goku
Speaker 1: encounters beings far more powerful and attains the power of
Speaker 1: a god. So he defends the Earth against the powerful
Speaker 1: destructive deities and travels to other universes, this time to
Speaker 1: face more powerful opponents as well. As nearly unstoppable foes
Speaker 1: while learning his newly discovered powers under the Gods of
Speaker 1: the Universe. Yeah, it was just the next place it
Speaker 1: could go, That's what you're saying. So, what's what's more
Speaker 1: powerful than like the levels of super saying we've seen
Speaker 1: before and it obviously was super saying. This reminds me
Speaker 1: of Marvel and d C because I feel like they
Speaker 1: start at the this, you know, the street level, which
Speaker 1: is like your your Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Peter Parker,
Speaker 1: and then move on to the the like I feel like,
Speaker 1: what I like to global scale than space then universe Marvel,
Speaker 1: which is interesting because cosmic Marvel and Avengers only intermingling
Speaker 1: with big events like Infinity War. But I felt like
Speaker 1: the way it was presented to us in movie forms,
Speaker 1: you would assume that Avengers were bigger than Guardians of
Speaker 1: the Galaxy depending on who you talk to, I feel
Speaker 1: like super comic book nerves are like, no, I've always
Speaker 1: known that they're the same, but I feel like you're
Speaker 1: average Watcher was like, oh no, the Adventures of the
Speaker 1: Big Dogs and the Guardians are joined them, but it's like, no,
Speaker 1: the Guardians of the Galaxy are the Avengers of Space,
Speaker 1: and I, you know, hopefully we really get to feel
Speaker 1: that in the next one. I feel like there's it's
Speaker 1: just the way the story is told and how and
Speaker 1: who we've had time to gravitate towards and love, and
Speaker 1: you know, we've only gotten Peter Quill normally. Also, I
Speaker 1: think it's because but you don't have like you're Captain
Speaker 1: America or Stark, Like Peter Quill's kind of a goofball. See,
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of take him seriously as a leader,
Speaker 1: but I do Iffy. Yeah, before we bring in Kyle,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to touch on the animation process, Yes,
Speaker 1: please do for how this whole thing works moving from
Speaker 1: manga to anime. So, when dragon Ball first began airing
Speaker 1: on Fuji TV, digital animation did not exist and the
Speaker 1: majority of the franchise was animated in the traditional fashion
Speaker 1: on celluloid sheets. And in recent years, the dragon Ball
Speaker 1: franchise has entered the digital race with numerous features, theatrical
Speaker 1: films and in dragon Ball Super coming out. Um they
Speaker 1: also have a new movie coming out this next year.
Speaker 1: And what I was gonna say is they're working so
Speaker 1: quickly and they have a little bit of a turnover
Speaker 1: as far as animation, where there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: argument in the dragon Ball community, as far as the
Speaker 1: animation of some of the dragon Ball Super episodes aren't
Speaker 1: always on point. Maybe we can include on our Twitter
Speaker 1: Instagram some examples of that so you can see what
Speaker 1: we mean. It doesn't bother me as much. I feel
Speaker 1: like they're trying to get this content out as quickly
Speaker 1: as possible. But I understand, especially when you look at
Speaker 1: some other anime that has been afforded the ability to
Speaker 1: really work on, Like our friend Lashawn Thomas. His the
Speaker 1: anime that he's working on is Whof. That's his one thing.
Speaker 1: Like how a Curatorama just wants it to be funny,
Speaker 1: Lashawn just wants things to look beautiful. He's obsessed with
Speaker 1: the animation of It makes sense that that's not tory
Speaker 1: AMA's first priority. We're gonna take another break and we're
Speaker 1: gonna come back with our friend calibert to talk about
Speaker 1: some of the character to like my folio sat or impression. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, right, you know, that's just wrong with it,
Speaker 1: and we're going back. I am iffy way the way
Speaker 1: one of your hosts nerdificent. I'm Danny Fernandez. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was cutting you off there you were, but
Speaker 1: I'll let it. I'll let it slide this time. But yes,
Speaker 1: we're sitting here a good friend of ours, probably one
Speaker 1: of our favorite friends, who don't tell our other friends,
Speaker 1: none other illustrious, the man with the golden voice. That's
Speaker 1: that's what they call him in the streets. You may
Speaker 1: not know this. He's the man with the Golden voice,
Speaker 1: the man of a thousand voices. Man. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's correct, but we're gonna round up. Um it is.
Speaker 1: Voice actor Kylie Bart. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. Thank you. Next time, I'm dragon Balls. I'm
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah you are. You are the voice of
Speaker 1: many people's childhoods and adulthoods Um you'll I mean Kyle's
Speaker 1: nixt oxtensive voice acting as well as anime voice acting,
Speaker 1: but specifically dragon Ball related the voice of adult Gohan,
Speaker 1: who had a huge crush on So technically, I guess
Speaker 1: I had a crush on your voice as a as
Speaker 1: a teenage girl, a teenage Danny also the narrator. That's
Speaker 1: that you just did that? Man, you ruined so many
Speaker 1: people's weeks. He's the most powerful dragon Ball character because
Speaker 1: he is God. He decides when stuff goes down and
Speaker 1: stuff stops because of a commercial break or whatever. You know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: also ox King ox King. Yeah, So so to go
Speaker 1: back because I just skipped over that Gohan is the
Speaker 1: son of Goku. Um ox King is Gohan's grandfather. Kind
Speaker 1: of incestuous. They're like, yeah, your just voice. If you
Speaker 1: got Goku, you would have gotten the full chain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Bar Duck, who's Goku's dad, you could have
Speaker 1: been him too, And then you could have just been
Speaker 1: the whole and go to him. Now. My my first
Speaker 1: gig voiceover was was on the Bardoc Special and I
Speaker 1: was like Horned Guy number one or something like this
Speaker 1: dude with big horns that his gang takes on Bar.
Speaker 1: Of course they get their butt handed to him, but
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a special moment. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: on a show that I'm already a fan of. And wait,
Speaker 1: so you were already a fan? What was your first
Speaker 1: introduction to dragon Ball? Then five? I want to say,
Speaker 1: the now defunct and America magazine had a cover story
Speaker 1: on dragon Ball and I read it and I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is fascinating. This is this is different than like
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown or The Simpsons, where everyone goes on for
Speaker 1: years and years and stays the same age. This one
Speaker 1: actually goes in someone like a linear pattern, you know,
Speaker 1: a little Goku. He grows up, he gets married, he
Speaker 1: has kids, and you see the kids grow up and
Speaker 1: then they have kids. It's like, all right, this is cool.
Speaker 1: It's like that part grounded a little more in reality,
Speaker 1: making a little more relatable. It's not just oh anime,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I go without listening out the
Speaker 1: bankers because you know, we are talking about Dragon ball Z.
Speaker 1: But like Dany said, you have a thousand voice. You
Speaker 1: are you uh fighter Yeah, and we're talking about One
Speaker 1: punch Man earlier and you were Atomic Samurai Summura. It's
Speaker 1: so funny because I've heard your voice so many times
Speaker 1: and not realize it because I just jammed through One
Speaker 1: punch Man recently and nice, I just assumed that I'm
Speaker 1: hearing you at this point. Yeah. Well, the Twunami block
Speaker 1: on Saturday nights on Cartoon Network, it is like the
Speaker 1: Kylie Bear cameo because I was cocking on JoJo's Bizarre
Speaker 1: Adventure start as Crusaders. I'm Kiba still on on Narutosha
Speaker 1: Putin and um, of course that's wrapping up soon. But
Speaker 1: um yeah, yeah, I'm on Hunter Hunter and as moral see,
Speaker 1: if he calls it hunter hunter, we've been wrong this
Speaker 1: whole time. Oh man, no, no, these Look we've had
Speaker 1: some voice actors that call it Hunter x Hunter, but
Speaker 1: I mean there are hunter hunter x Hunter, but I
Speaker 1: mean they're not on it. But like right, we've had
Speaker 1: people rights, but we gotta go with what Kyle says. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, because it's directed by Tony Oliver, he calls
Speaker 1: it hunter Hunter. Yeah, because I mistakenly going in there,
Speaker 1: It's like, so, what tell me about this Hunter x Hunter.
Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no, it's not like a shipping thing.
Speaker 1: It's like a Hunter x Hunter. Like not quite. That's
Speaker 1: settled if in the Nerdificent Encyclopedia. Yeah, see another another
Speaker 1: another thing we should settle right now. It is Reu
Speaker 1: not Ryu. Yeah, conferred that learned that the first time
Speaker 1: I met you, and now I dropped. I dropped that
Speaker 1: fact at parties. I mean you know, I dabbled in
Speaker 1: the f GC, so I kind of already knew. Okay, mom,
Speaker 1: almost you've already. I've been training, you know for the
Speaker 1: past uh thirty years uh, and soon I'll be able
Speaker 1: to step up to the plate. Go all the way
Speaker 1: at EVO. I'm coming for you. I'm coming for xnic Fox.
Speaker 1: You're ready coming for your face. I know that's were
Speaker 1: you following that at all? No? No, and yeah, not
Speaker 1: at all. You're like, I'm DVZ out. Yeah, I'm good. See,
Speaker 1: I'm casual gamer, so I button mash. Those guys would
Speaker 1: call me in ten seconds. I love Dragon Ball Fighters.
Speaker 1: I think it's an excellent fighting game, and that's found
Speaker 1: a good fandom following, even for people not fans of
Speaker 1: dragon Ball you know, it's like it's just an excellent,
Speaker 1: well built, well constructed fighting game for people of all
Speaker 1: different skill level. Yeah. Yeah, if you're not a big
Speaker 1: game or you can still play Dragon Ball Fighters. I
Speaker 1: know because I did. I actually we were in like
Speaker 1: a tournament or something. I mean it was like a
Speaker 1: casual one that was happening at this bar. But I
Speaker 1: beat the first person I played against. I did you
Speaker 1: do it by stamming and hitting square? Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I did pretty good. I think I
Speaker 1: put No. I like messed around a little bit. But
Speaker 1: people mistakenly think that I'm a gamer and I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can only be into so many things, people, I
Speaker 1: can only be into so many things. You are also
Speaker 1: Professor Oak for Pokemon for for New York minute, because
Speaker 1: that show is recorded in New York. But for the
Speaker 1: case of Pokemon Origins, that four episode anime series, uh,
Speaker 1: they did for whatever reason, cast it in l A.
Speaker 1: So um. I took that role for that for that
Speaker 1: very brief run there. So I know that that funimation
Speaker 1: is based out of and they're the ones that dubbed
Speaker 1: dragon Ball Z and they're based out of Dallas or
Speaker 1: Flower Mound. So do you do all of your recording here?
Speaker 1: I do now. When I was doing Kai, you know,
Speaker 1: over the past decade or so, I would have to
Speaker 1: fly into town or if I happen to be there. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But now technology has gotten really good with source connect
Speaker 1: and and and and be directed over Skype, and these
Speaker 1: these apps all talk to each other so they can
Speaker 1: direct in real time and make sure everything sinks up
Speaker 1: with the lip flap and all that stuff. So I'm
Speaker 1: able to stay here. I mean, yes, it costs them
Speaker 1: extra money because they got to rent the studio out
Speaker 1: and all that. But but I get to drive, you know,
Speaker 1: just across town, as opposed to taking a whole day
Speaker 1: flying out, you know, for hundreds of dollars, losing all
Speaker 1: the money you made because anime pay is crop. It's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But so you were saying that you were a fan
Speaker 1: of the series before you got on board. So did
Speaker 1: did you feel like that made it easier for you
Speaker 1: to jump in and do these boys because you're like,
Speaker 1: I know what this is. Oh yeah, yeah. When I
Speaker 1: when I first went in for the auditions, it was
Speaker 1: an open call back in the summer of two thousand.
Speaker 1: I get there and the receptionist says, Okay was living
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah, I grew up in Dallas at
Speaker 1: a radio job. I was on Radio Disney. It was
Speaker 1: a DJ and Radio Disney. So it was Kara Edwards
Speaker 1: who's Fidel and got in. By the way, we were
Speaker 1: on the air as like a team show. You know. Wow,
Speaker 1: so you've known her for a long time. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: go way back, okay cool? Yeah, yeah yeah, And once
Speaker 1: we we we got that voice acting bug and everything,
Speaker 1: and we got in with Funimation started on Z and
Speaker 1: you know, there's the ball was rolling. It's just crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it let's go on. The first role for them
Speaker 1: that you booked or were you go on? Go On
Speaker 1: was the first thing I tried out for because I
Speaker 1: picked it out of the notebook. They said, just just
Speaker 1: pick whoever you want to read for. I opened it up.
Speaker 1: It was Gohan. I knew who that was, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: reading for that one. Everybody else I hadn't seen up
Speaker 1: to that point. I only seen the first two sagas
Speaker 1: here and there. You know, the Canadian dub, the Ocean
Speaker 1: dub isn't with you know, Scott McNeil as Um Piccolo
Speaker 1: and Brian Drummond as Vegeta is like and you know
Speaker 1: four or five different Gokus, Peter Colombus, Ian Corlette, Kirby
Speaker 1: Murrow and so on. It wasn't even Sean Shimmeley yet.
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, yeah, I fell in love with that stuff.
Speaker 1: I was watching Pioneer put Out, like the Dead Zone
Speaker 1: movie and all that stuff. So I was watching this.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is so cool. I have Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: go around the Apartment just next time on Dragon Balls.
Speaker 1: Fast forward five years, I'm working on the freaking show
Speaker 1: and I was just like stoked fanboy dream times too.
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to get into voice acting for animation. Done,
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to be on the DJ. I'll
Speaker 1: be a DJ on the radio. Done. And then I
Speaker 1: get on a show that I'm a fan of. Done.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, So did this open the door for the
Speaker 1: rest of yours? I think so because of the momentum
Speaker 1: of dragon Ball in the first incarnation of two No.
Speaker 1: I mean those big nineties early two thousand's when kids
Speaker 1: would come home every day and watch that stuff. I
Speaker 1: got to to roll in them. As they stopped airing
Speaker 1: the Canadian dub and then starting with the trunk saga,
Speaker 1: went to the Texas cast, and then that went forward
Speaker 1: and then I was riding that way. Man. It was
Speaker 1: like and then you just have no idea that you're
Speaker 1: affecting a future generation. Yeah, that's what that was gonna be.
Speaker 1: My follow up question, What do you feel the point
Speaker 1: was when you realize, like, oh, this is bigger than
Speaker 1: I thought it was. Well, it was just by the
Speaker 1: sheer amount of interest and enthusiasm on a global scale.
Speaker 1: I was. I was getting invites to convention still do luck.
Speaker 1: I'm so blessed that I get to travel the world
Speaker 1: and talk about something I'm passionate about and something that
Speaker 1: means a lot to the fans. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: while I'm not a therapist or I'm not a doctor,
Speaker 1: I'm not curing things. I like to think that entertainment
Speaker 1: is therapy. And you know, I'm one small piece of
Speaker 1: the pie. With all the creators, writers, producers, editors, mixers,
Speaker 1: you know, all the talent involved behind the scenes, all
Speaker 1: the people on the network level that get that show
Speaker 1: out there and everything working from partners in America partners
Speaker 1: in Japan. Now dealing with this beheamoth of of fandom
Speaker 1: thanks to social media and awareness and streaming and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So yeah, yeah, it was unreal to to
Speaker 1: ride that that wave. Remember when Suncoast Motion Picture Company,
Speaker 1: Remember that it had an anime section and a Dragon
Speaker 1: Ball Z section. Gosh, yeah, the biggest anime definitely the
Speaker 1: biggest anime arguably Onto Nami. But honestly, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the only thing that rivals it as far as
Speaker 1: being mainstream here would be Pokemon. Yes, yeah, totally. But
Speaker 1: now it's just its own just beast, and that's all
Speaker 1: you can really call it. So you so you started
Speaker 1: off as was the first one, the bar Dock. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I started off a bit part voices because they hadn't
Speaker 1: quite gotten to that episode that story arc with with
Speaker 1: the Orange Star High and Go Hunt in high School
Speaker 1: and everything. They hadn't quite gotten there yet, but they
Speaker 1: wanted to get the casting done in advance, and they
Speaker 1: knew they were taking a gamble cut you off. You
Speaker 1: already had it, but you were just waiting for it
Speaker 1: to catch up kind of because they said, we wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure because this is your first time, and
Speaker 1: you know, there's there are people that are very established
Speaker 1: actors that come in here and the beeps and matching
Speaker 1: the lip flap throws them off. Yeah, because I don't
Speaker 1: think people, I mean, you are not just voice acting
Speaker 1: where you have to match something the animation that's already
Speaker 1: been done, because it's already been done in Japan. It's
Speaker 1: already in Japanese. So you're not only that, but the
Speaker 1: writers are having to work so that the words are matching,
Speaker 1: like you said, the lip flaps and stuff. And see,
Speaker 1: nowadays it's a whole different ball game than that those
Speaker 1: early days where censorship was king and Japan just wanted
Speaker 1: to get the shows on the air and reach the
Speaker 1: widest audience as possible, and that means children and the compromises.
Speaker 1: The FCC steps in and tells you, oh, you see
Speaker 1: that cigarette, turn it into a lollipop. Villain has a lollipop.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't until I finally we got two redubbing
Speaker 1: Dragon ball Z in the uncut form, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe how bloody and violent that show is, Like this
Speaker 1: is not a kid show. Oh yeah, no, not at all.
Speaker 1: It was, but it was such a wild ride. So
Speaker 1: so you said, like the mouth flap thing was was
Speaker 1: kind of daunting for a few voice actors. Is that
Speaker 1: still Is that still a thing where you kind of
Speaker 1: have to deal with the beeps? Or have have there
Speaker 1: been technological advancements that made a little There are different methods.
Speaker 1: The one that I work with the most, and I
Speaker 1: think a lot of the l a talent pool that
Speaker 1: deal with with anime and video games, like the cut
Speaker 1: scene stuff, you know, not the dialogue per se, but
Speaker 1: the cut scene stuff where there's at least rudimentary like
Speaker 1: animatics or something where you're trying to match timing of
Speaker 1: something that's still done. That that's pretty par for the course. Now,
Speaker 1: I've also worked at studios where you have the dialogue
Speaker 1: coming across the screen like you're playing Dance Dance Revolution
Speaker 1: and you have to say the word when it hits
Speaker 1: the red line. Yeah, there's different proprietary versions of that,
Speaker 1: and I dig that version. I think that's cool. I
Speaker 1: have a question because you've voiced so many people, and
Speaker 1: I feel like this is taboo to ask, but like,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite favorite? Is the next one,
Speaker 1: the next thing that's coming, Because when you're a freelance
Speaker 1: contract laber, you don't know where your next meal, Yeah,
Speaker 1: your bill is going to be paid, And it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're basically hired and fired all the time. Because if
Speaker 1: I come in and I'm a bit part voice and
Speaker 1: I'm in one episode of one show, that's it. I'm
Speaker 1: done until hopefully I get called back and I auditioned
Speaker 1: for the next show or story arc or whatever, and
Speaker 1: if I get something bigger than yeah, there's a few
Speaker 1: more hours. Here's some crumbs, and then video games pay
Speaker 1: way better. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, then what are some
Speaker 1: of your at least I would say with you voicing
Speaker 1: gohan Um, what were some of your favorite like arcs
Speaker 1: of his or like sagas that you got to voice
Speaker 1: or remember having the most fun getting to do totally.
Speaker 1: You know, from it sounds selfish and totally egotistical, but
Speaker 1: saying great, say man, because it was all about Gohan.
Speaker 1: It was about his dorky side, which I totally am
Speaker 1: in tune with, and as much hate as I've seen
Speaker 1: from fandom saying that was terrible, it was like, no,
Speaker 1: I loved it his most Gohan this Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you already know he's a badass. Okay, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what else does he bring to the table. He's naive
Speaker 1: like his dad, but he's really nerdy. He's super super
Speaker 1: duper nerdy. Yeah, and I love playing that aspect of him.
Speaker 1: But of course, you know when you play the big, strong,
Speaker 1: muscle guy who could just bring it and all that
Speaker 1: and be a killer team member, absolutely so much fun.
Speaker 1: So then if you were just moving from doing radio
Speaker 1: to now doing voice acting, Dragon Ball specifically like Dragon
Speaker 1: moll Z has so many powering up scenes, how did
Speaker 1: you like work up to being able to do that? Well,
Speaker 1: you first get constipated and then you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: I think that would make Sean Schimmel mad. When fans
Speaker 1: would say, like, you sound constipated, It's like, well, how
Speaker 1: are you supposed to sound when you're exerting? You know,
Speaker 1: like I try to do it and like the just
Speaker 1: the um stress it puts on your throat, like unless
Speaker 1: you're properly trained. Well, you know, it was kind of
Speaker 1: our boot camp for now. You know, as is widespread
Speaker 1: and mainstream as video game recording, especially for l A
Speaker 1: talent is and how much RPG first person shooters and
Speaker 1: fighters and all that require a lot of screen me
Speaker 1: and you're getting people in the talent pool going, I'm
Speaker 1: not used to this, and it's like, oh, I got this, man,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for years, like I've been born
Speaker 1: for this. I know. That's been funny. I think the
Speaker 1: funniest thing the few times I've done VR work is
Speaker 1: just when it's like all right, effort noises and you're
Speaker 1: like and if you're doing on a on a game,
Speaker 1: it's it's like structured a little different because the footage
Speaker 1: is usually not there. You're just doing three takes in
Speaker 1: a row of the linear script, just your lines. You
Speaker 1: have no context. You're you're depending on your director or
Speaker 1: the client to tell you what the hell are you
Speaker 1: talking to or responding to, or or like okay, three
Speaker 1: open mouth punches, three closed mouth now major damage, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and they save all that for the end
Speaker 1: the dialogue, this whisper stuff, the narration, all that's done first,
Speaker 1: and then they blow your vocal cords out at the
Speaker 1: end of the session. Yeah, so you know, just to
Speaker 1: just for all those aspiring v o v a s
Speaker 1: listening that are at the edge of their seat where like,
Speaker 1: asked something I want to hear. Uh. Something I find
Speaker 1: whenever I get VO auditions that I've been like, wow,
Speaker 1: you guys got it rough is sometimes you'll get auditions
Speaker 1: where you just get wines without context, where it's just
Speaker 1: like this, this is what they're saying, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to act, but you're giving me no context.
Speaker 1: What do you feel helps with that type of stuff?
Speaker 1: I think if the client is and this is up
Speaker 1: to the client, I mean, if they have the foresight
Speaker 1: to give you at least a basic short and I
Speaker 1: do mean short summary. It's like, tell me what I
Speaker 1: absolutely need to know. I don't need a three page
Speaker 1: exposition showing the holy world building universe that you have
Speaker 1: at all the sub genres, like no, no, for the
Speaker 1: sake of this audition, what do I need to know
Speaker 1: about my character? Preferably a picture of him, an age range,
Speaker 1: some sort of vocal quality, maybe an MP three or
Speaker 1: YouTube reference to It's like we kind of think I
Speaker 1: like Christian Bale and it'll have a link and I'll
Speaker 1: listen to his delivery in that and it's like okay,
Speaker 1: so they want something like Christian Bale, but not just
Speaker 1: like Christian Bale, so that it becomes that juggling act
Speaker 1: where you want to give them something that stands out
Speaker 1: and we'll hopefully nail the gig. I know that's always
Speaker 1: the dice role of like standing out or hitting it. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I don't know who watches Rick and Morty in here,
Speaker 1: but white women all got invited in that episode where
Speaker 1: all those they were trying to find those like fake people,
Speaker 1: like like they had the imaginary people. And then there
Speaker 1: was the character Tinkles and he did the song like
Speaker 1: some are in Tinkles fens at the end, group text
Speaker 1: the whole anyone who know that I'm the only one anyway,
Speaker 1: They sent it to everyone on my improv group and
Speaker 1: it said little John DMX type, and they sent the
Speaker 1: track to do it to everyone else of my group,
Speaker 1: who are smart people the foresight to do it to
Speaker 1: the tempo of the song. But I'm like, nah, I
Speaker 1: know what DMX sounds like. I was so focused on
Speaker 1: sounding like DMX and so it literally was summarinty cools friends. Still,
Speaker 1: it was so slow, and like after we submitted it,
Speaker 1: we all listened to each other's and everyone laughed. They're like,
Speaker 1: if you what are you doing? I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's soon to do Little Jaws. Sometimes thinking outside the
Speaker 1: box is that lucky move. Some people will land gigs
Speaker 1: because they slate the beginning of the audition, which is
Speaker 1: their name and the role they're doing. It's like, kyle
Speaker 1: A there, do eat this voice. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: and that will might catch the director's here and they
Speaker 1: will hit stop because they're so sick of hearing auditions
Speaker 1: of the same dialogue in and out, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's someone who did something a little bit different, and
Speaker 1: maybe they improvised a line here and there. They could
Speaker 1: have got the context completely wrong, but hey, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna panalyze me because they didn't tell me, you know,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna hear a delivery and they're either gonna
Speaker 1: like it or they're gonna say next. Never take it personal,
Speaker 1: have a thick skin and um worts yourself from that audition.
Speaker 1: Do the best you can and wait for the next
Speaker 1: one to come along. Lather Rinse repeats, Oh man, that
Speaker 1: bonus if you land the gig. Oh, I know right
Speaker 1: that that's for you. V O people that you got.
Speaker 1: You had your section. Now we're gonna talk about anime again.
Speaker 1: I want to know what was going through your mind,
Speaker 1: because okay, so you do Dragon Ball Z, you do
Speaker 1: Kai Kai Is in the books, you're like all right,
Speaker 1: Like you were saying you're done with the job, You're like,
Speaker 1: all right, gonna do the next thing. And then they
Speaker 1: announced Dragon Ball Super. What's going through your head? That
Speaker 1: blew my mind? Because we had the two movies right,
Speaker 1: the Battle of Gods in Resurrection F and those did
Speaker 1: gangbusters at box office in Japan and here they were
Speaker 1: released here and then in theaters here in the States.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they had premiere with the Japanese voice
Speaker 1: actors and the English and that it was just unreal.
Speaker 1: They they sold out screenings. They had to add more screenings.
Speaker 1: It's not like they made film prints like they normally do.
Speaker 1: There was just a digital thing. But it was nationwide,
Speaker 1: it was worldwide for for a lot of countries, and
Speaker 1: it did so well. So I thought, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the future. The movies are probably easier to make and
Speaker 1: they make more money. They're more probably. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: thought they were just going to stick with movies absolutely,
Speaker 1: because it's set in you know, this, this this continuity
Speaker 1: that kind of red Coons t t out of existence,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people are fine with, especially Gohan's
Speaker 1: getting you know, nerved at the end of the Boos saga.
Speaker 1: But and then Super comes along. It's like, oh my god, Wow.
Speaker 1: And then Super the movie, which is coming out what
Speaker 1: in December and Japan January in English And No, I
Speaker 1: have no idea of gohans in it or not. I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it would honestly be a disservice. But
Speaker 1: I feel like if we're talking about your character of Gohan,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of debate about him because
Speaker 1: I feel like he, for people that don't know, ended
Speaker 1: up being arguably the strongest character in Dragon ball Z.
Speaker 1: By the end of the cell saga, which is a
Speaker 1: villain that they defeated. Um but so Goku has always
Speaker 1: been historically the strongest, and then Gohan, his son ended
Speaker 1: up kind of taking that mantle and everyone thought, oh,
Speaker 1: you're the new Goku. And then he ended up not
Speaker 1: he ended up, you know, which is fine, Like he
Speaker 1: just he ended up being more into academics. He got married,
Speaker 1: he kind of settled down, and I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure people come up to you all the time and
Speaker 1: it's like I don't control that, you know, but like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm just I'm interested to hear like your
Speaker 1: take on his development or how you feel about getting
Speaker 1: about playing this, you know, softer Gohan. I guess I
Speaker 1: think it's important to show depth in character and evolution
Speaker 1: and growth, you know, don't just keep him stifled and
Speaker 1: just label or stereotype him as he's only this, he
Speaker 1: can't grow. It's like, no, that's not fair. Let's show
Speaker 1: that he can be a responsible, good husband, good loving,
Speaker 1: nurturing father, unlike his own who was not that. Again,
Speaker 1: if he did, you hear that because more of a dad.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, can't parent if the world
Speaker 1: is destroyed? I respect that. I do respect that he's
Speaker 1: saving the world. He can't change diapers. I get that.
Speaker 1: I RESPECTA seems to do it pretty well. Well good, Well,
Speaker 1: that's why Vegina is always in second place. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, sometimes I feel like you're pulling in first.
Speaker 1: He's coming through. He's given Goku his power. We could
Speaker 1: but Vegeta and Boma. How did that even happen? He
Speaker 1: seems so unpassion Kyle, that is passion. Okay, that is
Speaker 1: too fine. I can't swear that it's too very fine.
Speaker 1: People who were sexually frustrated? Was that a one night
Speaker 1: stand that just erupted into something? I don't know? You know?
Speaker 1: He yeah, we're what are we? Pg? I can't say
Speaker 1: all the things I want to say, but I do
Speaker 1: want to say that that is the result of two
Speaker 1: people in the summer heat. Uh, it's always like summer.
Speaker 1: Whenever they're training. It's like she's in like a bikini
Speaker 1: or whatever, like chilling at her compound, and he's like
Speaker 1: sweaty as hell. I'm sorry fan fiction. Um, you know
Speaker 1: he's out there training. You know he's wearing lug boots,
Speaker 1: you know the ones that master flex war And then
Speaker 1: to the hyperbolic time chamber and they all brow out together.
Speaker 1: So so I mean super has been taking place the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, so you've gotten to reprise Gohan
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And a time when it
Speaker 1: kind of just was like he was done, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, I thought, if anything, he'll be minimally involved.
Speaker 1: He's still not like majorly involved, but he had a
Speaker 1: bigger part that I thought he would. Yeah, well how
Speaker 1: does that? Like? How is that? And now rejoining the
Speaker 1: concircuit with all of a sudden's all of these dragon
Speaker 1: Ball fans coming back. I'll tell you it's killer because
Speaker 1: this past year we had a lot of us were
Speaker 1: invited to the Dallas area for the first Kameha con comicon.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you pronounce that, call me home,
Speaker 1: but this is the first all Dragonball themed convention, and
Speaker 1: we had Japanese actors, we had Canadian actors and English
Speaker 1: actors and creators and directors and producers. All they're signing
Speaker 1: autographs all weekend and panels and discussions and merch and
Speaker 1: artist ali just just the quality which is like blow
Speaker 1: you away, and it's like, man, the first year event
Speaker 1: and almost everyone was not from Dallas. They came from
Speaker 1: other countries, other states, and they said, as soon as
Speaker 1: those those tickets went on sale, like almost a year ago,
Speaker 1: I ordered them. That's like I have to be there
Speaker 1: for this. This is historical and all of us who
Speaker 1: work on the show, we're just blown away. And so
Speaker 1: yeah that that that's coming back. And then a lot
Speaker 1: of us are on the con circuit anyway, so we
Speaker 1: bring that to the comic cons and the anime cons
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just a juggernaut. It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's never slow. It's only I remember
Speaker 1: for the final episode of Dragon Ball Super, I think
Speaker 1: they showed because they showed it outside in Mexico and
Speaker 1: they were like a hundred and eighty thousand people that
Speaker 1: showed up to watch the final episode. That's just in
Speaker 1: that particular area. Yeah, like think of everyone worldwide that
Speaker 1: was watching the final episode. Yeah, like this this this
Speaker 1: kame con is inviting the Mexican voice of Goku. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's yes. I will say that is so big just
Speaker 1: alone when we were doing krill in it. How many
Speaker 1: of our friends are Latin X friends that grew up
Speaker 1: watching the Spanish dubs to see that they're getting there
Speaker 1: just do as well. It's super exciting for me. Yeah, totally, totally,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's it's equal representation. You're getting, Oh, hey,
Speaker 1: I watched the ocean depth, Well, then you might want
Speaker 1: to go talk to those gentlemen over there, and then
Speaker 1: over here is the Texas people, and oh you want
Speaker 1: to meet Japanese vegeta. We're getting that really long, long
Speaker 1: and we'll see what we can do. I am actually
Speaker 1: a co host of comicn this this year. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: co hosting it. Yeah, dude, I'm pretty sure that you are.
Speaker 1: But I don't control I don't control all of that. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was announced last year. I believe it was Geeked
Speaker 1: Geeked on one on one was a host, and now
Speaker 1: I am co hosting it with him. So um, everybody,
Speaker 1: brace yourselves. Yeah, continue this combo there. I guess. Well. No,
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, just because we were talking about
Speaker 1: dubs really quickly, is that I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into the subs for stubs debate. What I do want
Speaker 1: to say is my quick onet like two sentence rant,
Speaker 1: is that I think it's so beautiful that dragon moll
Speaker 1: z can be dubbed in so many different languages, like
Speaker 1: it's in Portuguese, it's in Spanish, Yes, it's in English
Speaker 1: and Chinese and Japanese and so German. Yeah. I never
Speaker 1: quite understood that argument of like, no, it has to
Speaker 1: be like this one. The owners don't want it to be.
Speaker 1: They want it to be dubbed in so many different
Speaker 1: languages so they can capitalize on all these markets and
Speaker 1: share their creation with so many markets. But also that
Speaker 1: means that a little kid in Brazil gets too, gets
Speaker 1: to watch it in their native tongue and and and
Speaker 1: and grow up with it that way. I think that's
Speaker 1: so special, and I think that's really cool. It's a
Speaker 1: very positive thing. I know, as if I were a
Speaker 1: creator creating a franchise of that magnitude, I would want
Speaker 1: it to reach as why an audience as possible around
Speaker 1: the globe. And I'm not going to sit here and say, well,
Speaker 1: this is what we intended because this is the native
Speaker 1: language that it's in, So anything else's in our films
Speaker 1: get our films get dubbed into other American films and
Speaker 1: television get dubbed into other My brother, one of his
Speaker 1: favorite things is a lot of Netflix. The animated shows
Speaker 1: on Netflix, you have the option of watching it in Spanish,
Speaker 1: and that's how he's trying to teach my knee Spanish.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think that's really cool. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the live action dub thing is is is a
Speaker 1: different beast. It's like because of the subtleties of the
Speaker 1: way the mouth moves in different languages, it's hard to
Speaker 1: sync up one language with another, like like it one
Speaker 1: ends with a consonant, but his mouth is obviously doing
Speaker 1: a vowel, like oh, it's like how do you make
Speaker 1: it fit and stay faithful? So it's like it's a
Speaker 1: little give and take. It's easier with anime because the
Speaker 1: mouth is not as it's not like three D animation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's fun times. Yeah, I know it's
Speaker 1: an exciting time for anime and it's an exciting time
Speaker 1: for DVZ fans truly. But the whole dragon Ball tour
Speaker 1: going across America now too. I have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that, but maybe some of the actors might. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But yeah, with Fighters and the Legends game
Speaker 1: on mobile and it's coming on switch. Yeah, it's taken over. Actually,
Speaker 1: we talked about this with our Comic Con episode, but
Speaker 1: the Hall H panel for dragon Ball Super for the
Speaker 1: new movie was like sold out. It was packed. Well
Speaker 1: that's crazy because normally those are the ones like where
Speaker 1: they show the Marvel trailers or the d C trailers,
Speaker 1: And the fact that our anime that you know, not
Speaker 1: everyone takes us seriously was completely packed for Comic Con
Speaker 1: and had taken over. I remember, Um, I always saw
Speaker 1: you post a picture. Were you you were there this year? Right? Okay,
Speaker 1: well I saw that you had I think shared a
Speaker 1: picture because Gohan was on one of the elevators at
Speaker 1: the Marriott, and like, this is so cool, like to
Speaker 1: see this interactive space with with UH, with these characters
Speaker 1: just kind of taking over San Diego to me that
Speaker 1: it's blown up so much. And and I know you've
Speaker 1: been going to UH to comic Con for a while
Speaker 1: and I started going when I was like eleven. I think,
Speaker 1: actually you probably signed something of mine as Gohan, I
Speaker 1: was like a pimple e team major getting you to
Speaker 1: sign something. Um, but I did. I had a huge
Speaker 1: crush on go On. Well that's fantastic, yeah, okay, oh
Speaker 1: I think it is time do you take this plane
Speaker 1: down for a landing? Is there anything you want to
Speaker 1: plug Kyle there and let people know where to catch
Speaker 1: you where you're gonna be sure, Captain, we'd no. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm at Kyle Abert on Twitter, at Kyle aber
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm so happy that Instagram as of today
Speaker 1: has just opened up applications to be verified. So I'm
Speaker 1: already verified on Twitter, but Instagram eludes me. But now
Speaker 1: it's they made it public, so it's wait to get
Speaker 1: that Facebook. Do you get the Facebook right? Social media moment? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because strangely there are people out there wanting to imitate
Speaker 1: us on social media. It's like, I'm sure advantage is
Speaker 1: there to do that? What is me? I'm Kyle Herbert.
Speaker 1: You know that's not right. Yeah, you're not pronouncing it right.
Speaker 1: H G B E R T does Louisiana French. So
Speaker 1: look me up on Twitter. That's where I am most active.
Speaker 1: On Facebook, dot com slash Kylie beer v O and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, tune into Tunami. You know you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: me a lot show almost every show. Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Does anyone in your family, like, I mean, was it
Speaker 1: a thing where you would like send your family, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on this and now it's just like no,
Speaker 1: please stop everything. The first time I taped it when
Speaker 1: it came on you remember VCRs. Yeah, I taped the
Speaker 1: first thing to run on TV. The bar Dock was
Speaker 1: the first thing that came out for release that I
Speaker 1: could buy in the store. But Cartoon Network aired some
Speaker 1: of the bit part stuff and then I showed my
Speaker 1: dad and he tuned out after about ten seconds. That's nice, son,
Speaker 1: We are proud of you. Though it's like, all right, thanks.
Speaker 1: I know it's not your cup of tea, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm living my dream and it's like, well, we're happy
Speaker 1: for you, sons. So my parents rock. They're super supportive,
Speaker 1: cool love it. I am at MS Danny Fernandez, M
Speaker 1: S D A and I F E R N A
Speaker 1: and D easy and uh yeah, Like I was saying,
Speaker 1: if you're a dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, dragon Ball
Speaker 1: super fan, I will be hosting Comicon, which it's in April.
Speaker 1: It's in April, so you've got time to get tickets,
Speaker 1: but I would get them now. I think Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it ended up being sold out last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was packed at least the V I p stuff
Speaker 1: was it was packed, it was backed to hell. I
Speaker 1: was excited. You'd think the Beatles were playing. I mean
Speaker 1: I pulled up there from the from the hotel and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, screaming going on here, screaming fans. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean people grew up with you guys, and now
Speaker 1: are introducing their kids, and they're growing up with it.
Speaker 1: It's actually kind of insane that you and a lot
Speaker 1: of the other Texas that originated in Texas voice actors
Speaker 1: have been able to voice these characters for like two decades. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now we're speaking to like current gen people like
Speaker 1: you know, I've worked on Attack on Ty in some
Speaker 1: of the newer shows, and maybe kids today maybe that's
Speaker 1: their first exposure. But then they start following voice actors
Speaker 1: and finding out that they were oh, let me check
Speaker 1: out these older shows, or they'll watch abridged, which is
Speaker 1: like free advertising. You know. It's I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: these are funny jokes. Let's see what the original show
Speaker 1: actually says in these scenes. It's like, all right, we're
Speaker 1: gaining fans. That's great. Yeah, well, and you know me, um,
Speaker 1: if you wide away on Twitter and Instagram, if d
Speaker 1: s on Twitch. Thanks for coming through, y'all on the
Speaker 1: twenty nine. That weekend, I'll be in DC doing Improblem
Speaker 1: with White Women's make sure you come through and if
Speaker 1: you're in the l A area. September another, another edition
Speaker 1: of Your Token Friend will be Alive and Direct on
Speaker 1: the UCB Sunset Stage. More info of that could be
Speaker 1: found on those social media accounts that I just mentioned.
Speaker 1: Now you might be asking yourself, will will if you
Speaker 1: and Danny be able to cover the parts of TVZ
Speaker 1: that I like? Will they go do a deep diving
Speaker 1: dragon Ball? Will they do the deep dive on Z?
Speaker 1: How much? What about the video games like um Boudakai?
Speaker 1: What about the video games like bud find out next
Speaker 1: time on a future episode of Nerdive Sin. Yeah, don't worry,
Speaker 1: we got you. We got you. This is the one
Speaker 1: series I know the most about that I have tattooed
Speaker 1: on my body, So we will definitely be covering this.
Speaker 1: Somebody actually asked us a good question that I want
Speaker 1: to address, and they're like, why don't you when you
Speaker 1: tackle a topic, why don't you do two or three
Speaker 1: more episodes on that topic? You know, like we did
Speaker 1: Twilight Zone. I'm like, oh, we'll deep dive into it later,
Speaker 1: and they're like, why didn't you do two or three
Speaker 1: more episodes on twilight Zone. Well, the thing is is
Speaker 1: that not everyone likes it, and so we want to
Speaker 1: give like a fun introduction to these Some of them
Speaker 1: require additional episodes, some of them don't, but like, we
Speaker 1: don't want to do a month's worth of episodes because
Speaker 1: this comes out once a week. We don't want to
Speaker 1: do like two or three weeks on twilight Zone. If like,
Speaker 1: you know, a core part of our fan base is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're good, We're good. Um, we could. And the thing
Speaker 1: is that if he and I could absolutely just do
Speaker 1: the things that we personally are obsessed with, but we
Speaker 1: really want to learn about other fandoms that you know,
Speaker 1: we might not be as well versed in, and and
Speaker 1: then also sprinkling ones that we are very well versed in.
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of just our style. Um, we're
Speaker 1: entertainers first, I feel like, well we're nerds first, entertainers,
Speaker 1: and then um, all of the all of the deep
Speaker 1: dive stuff. The short version of that is it's more
Speaker 1: interesting if we bounce it around, and it's not the
Speaker 1: same thing over and over, especially if someone could be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit this one out and sit the next
Speaker 1: week out, in the next week out. So we like
Speaker 1: to we like to change it up. But don't worry,
Speaker 1: Dragon Ball fans, we are going to come back. We're
Speaker 1: going to dive into the legacy of Goku. This was
Speaker 1: just an intro. Yes, yes, stay nerdy, nerdy, stay nerdy,
Speaker 1: Stay nerdy.