WEBVTT - Episode 23: How The Dragon Ball Franchise Came To Be 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:13.560 Hello, Hello, Welcome to another edition of Nerdifficent. I am 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.880 one of your hosts and I am the other host. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:22.759 I'm the first host, Danny Fernandez. That just with speaking. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.800 Today we are we're talking about if you what are 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:30.800 we talking about? Um? Today we're talking about something that 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.120 I know a lot of people have been asking for long, 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.320 franchise people want to hear it. Today we're talking about 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:44.080 Wild Arms, the set in the Western the JRPG, one 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.560 of my favorite RPG franchises. Today we are talking about 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:53.720 Tenchi Muyo, which, yeah, today we're talking about big oh um. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.840 These are all things that you're gonna be like, yeah, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.320 I do that. But when you said that, though, could 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.320 you also cover Today we are talking about The Great 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.160 Mouse Detective actually one of the not as well respected 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:09.880 but should be Disney animated films. We're talking about the 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.880 dragon Ball franchise. Yes, we're talking about the dragon Ball franchise, 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.040 the franchise that's so huge that it doesn't fit into 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.800 one episode. This episode is going to cover just the 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.360 franchise as a whole, a little bit about a curatory AMA, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.720 and then we're gonna sit down with our good friend 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.280 Kylie bear Uh and talk about just what it was 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.720 like working on that franchise. This won't go deep in 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.600 a dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, dragon Ball GT, dragon 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.320 Ball Kidgona Super. Yeah, no, those are those have to 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:48.080 be its own episodes. But this is for everyone listening 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.120 and who may have just been wondering, like, what is 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.920 this dragon Ball Z thing I keep hearing about? This hype? This? 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.960 This will give you a crash course into it, and 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.680 then one by one you'll get to go deeper. This 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.760 is the the preface. I'm not the preface. This is 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.040 dragon Ball one on one. But also if you are 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.760 a huge, massive fan, like if he and I are, 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.560 and just to give our background, if he and I 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.000 started podcasting together with a dragon Ball Z show called 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.560 krill in It because Krillan is a character from dragon 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.400 Ball from this franchise, so we had we we actually 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.640 dissected each episode already on that podcast, and then we 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.480 had a dragon Ball Super podcast called krillin It's Super, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.920 which was also live and interactive on hyper RPG. So 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.920 we have extensively covered this and we do love it 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.360 a lot, and if you're like us and love it 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.480 a lot, we want to talk about why we love it. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.079 The history of it and the present and the future 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.239 of it. But as far as deep diving into each 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.680 particular saga and character and all of that, that's going 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.480 to have to be another episode. Yeah, no, it's it's long. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:00.120 I said, it's not even just being funny. It just 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.240 really is a very deep, dense history which is gonna 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.280 be funny based on a few things we talked about today, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.760 because unbeknownst to me, just with the research, it turns 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.520 out that this is another goofy thing that seemed to 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.520 get deeper through time. It wasn't it wasn't meant to 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:25.120 be as as deep as as one is taking it now. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.880 But buckle up, we're gonna talk about a little little 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:35.800 man who was born in Nagoya, Japan, and when he 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.600 was in elementary school, all his classmates drew imitating anime 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.600 and manga as a result of not having many forms 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.440 of entertainment, and he believes that he began to advance 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.920 above everyone else when he started drawing pictures of his 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.400 friends after winning a prize at the local arts studio 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.480 for a picture of one and one Dalmatians began to 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.680 think art was fun. That it was a lot of 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:05.520 time between when he started drawing too when he thought 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:11.520 art was fun. According to this article, there are so 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.520 many blogs, articles, and videos about the man that is 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.919 a Curatoryama. Yeah. What I wanted to say, honestly before 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.080 we even got started, was that I feel that Dragon 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.480 Ball Z in particular, which in my opinion from being 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.400 in the community, is the biggest, most notorious of all 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.480 of the dragon Ball shows. I feel like z is 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.120 is one of the big although Super is getting up 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.880 there now, and I'm sure Dragonball people are going to 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.640 write me. I understand that as as well, but just 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.720 here in America because Dragon Ball Z was a thing 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.400 that was introduced onto Nami. I actually think they had 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.720 it four kids. Um what I was gonna say is 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.520 that it's so people will write me and be like, oh, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.880 because I I have Goku and Vegeta, who are two 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.479 characters that will talk about a little bit, but um, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.520 I have them tattooed on me, and people will be like, oh, 0:04:55.560 --> 0:05:01.120 that's a norm e anime, this mainstream anime, and it's like, well, 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:07.200 it's mainstream now, But a curatory Yama ended up influencing 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.360 so all of the anime and manga that you're Super into. Now, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.120 that's like Nietzs and maybe it's like newer and coming 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.040 out and you're like, oh, I love this. Probably influenced 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.640 by him in some way. Like some of the biggest 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.920 franchises that have come in the last decade or so 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.800 have been heavily even their creators have said they were 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.200 heavily influenced by a curator Yama. So I just needed 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.360 to add a little bit of respect on our man 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.560 before we continued. I mean, I feel like that's just 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.839 a part of just anime fans in general. I remember 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:45.440 when Kanye tweeted out that the creator of a Kira 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.240 was A was a genius, and someone replied to that 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.120 tweet where it's like, Kanye, please watch sword art online. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:58.000 It's a better anime. My brain almost exploded after reading that. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.039 But it's just but it's funny because it seems like 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.760 it's a anime specific thing. But I think it is 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.840 a specific to pop culture where you have your thing, 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.360 and your thing is your favorite thing, so you have 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.120 to fight that it's the best thing. That's why you 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.400 have Star Trek versus Star Wars when the real winners 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.560 actually Battlestar Galactica. Yeah, much more mature, much more Actually, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.200 it's so funny. I haven't even watched that much Battlestar Galactica, 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.200 but it's been though. It's been the one that I've 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:32.640 gravitated towards him, like this is cool cylons baby, yeah 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.839 but yeah but yeah no um a curetor. Yama actually 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.240 didn't just even though he thought art was fun, he 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.400 didn't just jump and he was one of those people 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:47.240 who just started doing animation. And that's his whole story. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.760 He actually worked at an advertising agency in Nagoya, design 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.800 and posters for three years. After quitting his previous job. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.039 Storyama entered the manga industry by submitting a work to 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.080 an amateur contest and a Jump magazine in order her 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.320 to win the prize money. That is so interesting to 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:07.360 me because these are multiple instances that we have a 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:12.960 curatory Yama winning contests with his art, and it almost 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.280 feels like that might be a part of what influences 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:21.840 the idea of Dragon ball Z, of just this constant contest, 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.800 but of strength. I think he got a job from 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.320 being that good. He's gotten, you know, he got he 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.440 won an award when he first learned how to draw 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.320 because he was that good. It's just super interesting. Even 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.000 though he won the contest when he was a kid, 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.680 he did not win this contest. Uh. And while he 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.480 did not win, Kaziko Torishima, who would later become his editor, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.720 contacted him and gave him encouragement. And then his debut 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.320 came later in eight with the story Wonder Island, which 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.480 was published in Weekly Shown and Jump, which still runs 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.040 till this day. Yeah, and so just go back on. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.360 Shown In, which we've talked about in previous episodes but 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.760 shown in manga, is essentially similar to Calm, Etcetered geared 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.880 towards young males, but um, you know us ladies like 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.200 it too. Yeah, I know they separated by shown in 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.320 and Show Jim, Show Joe. I think, yeah, Show Joe 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:19.640 and shown in. But dudes like Show Joe, I bet, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.200 Especially because it's geared towards young people. It's like, oh, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.400 what's going on over there with those shirtless men. That's 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.800 honestly why I think it's funny. Whenever people would be 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.280 like Dragon ball Z is for boys, I'm like, no, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.720 they're like shirtless, They're like buff as hell. And I'm 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:39.080 very confused. Slash aroused by this in middle school, and uh, 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.600 you know, my favorite dudes and skin tight spandex. That's 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:47.000 vegeta who will get into but yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.200 so so even though he had his debut and shown 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.400 and Jump, he didn't really rise to popularity until the 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.760 comedy series Dr Slump, which was serialized and weekly shown 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.240 and Jumped from eight to four. And it follows the 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:05.520 adventures of a perverted professor, which that that that's a 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.640 common thread. That's a common thread with Toryama. Yeah, and 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.640 his small but super strong robot. He began the series 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.960 at age twenty five while living at home with his parents, 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.280 but when the series ended in nineteen eighty four, he 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:22.280 was a manga superstar. I think he was actually a multimillionaire. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:26.640 But really, yeah, that's super crazy. Well, I mean it 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.280 was made into an animated series. I mean it was 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.760 made into anime. Yeah. Yeah. He actually ended up going 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.480 on to win award for Dr Slump it earned him 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.760 in nineteen eighty one, it earned him the Shogakukan Manga 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.160 Award for Best Shown in the Show. Joe Manga Series 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.720 of the Year, a very successful anime adaptation aired on 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.920 TV from nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty six, with 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.280 a remake series airing from seven to ninety nine, and 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.160 by two thousand and eight, the manga had sold over 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.280 thirty five million copies in Japan. This is interesting too 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.680 because this is just for all intensive purposes up until 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:09.680 you know. Dragon Ball really took off his most popular property. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.920 It is, it is his bread and butter. Yet most 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.280 people know a curatory ama from the dragon Ball series, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.480 and I think that has more so to do with 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:25.760 the import aspect, because I feel like early anime that 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.840 was being imported to the U s it was the 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.000 serious stuff. You didn't get the like comedy stuff coming 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:35.400 to the US. Uh, except for um Canuku Man. I 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.640 feel like Anukuman made it here. But that was that 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.640 I felt as far as growing up for me, that 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.679 was the closest I got to comedy anime. Uh. If 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.280 anyone grew up on some comedy anime, please let me know. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.920 I'm curious to know what you got. But yeah, I 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.560 dr slant was something I kind of slept on. I 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.240 I didn't even like. There are some people who like 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.160 find a work and then find everything else they're creator 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.360 has created and they'll find it that. I don't do 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.239 that much often, and I liked Dragon Ball Z, specifically 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.400 dragon Ball Z. I haven't even went back and watched 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.800 all of dragon Ball. Like dragon Ball Z has the 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.520 double whammy for me, it's the excitement and the nostalgia. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.400 I'm sure dragon Ball is exciting. Actually, I've watched more 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.120 dragon Ball than I realized because I always thought the 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.720 Garlic Junior saga took place in dragon Ball Z, but 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.319 it actually it was a dragon Ball saga, So who knows? 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:36.600 It's it's all the same, literally all the same, because 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.960 just jumping ahead a bit, dragon Ball Z basically was 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.360 just the later versions of dragon Ball. Yeah, but I 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.240 would argue that they're so different tonally, where dragon Ball 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.960 is much more comedic and kind of lighthearted to some extent, 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.199 whereas dragon Ball Z is much more serious. I feel 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.360 like dragon Ball honestly has kind of more adult humor 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.520 and gags than I feel like Z does, And I 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.160 didn't feel like that was the tonal shift that added 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.280 the Z. But I feel like it's not insane for 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.200 a series to switch its tone. I feel like a 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.640 lot of series nowadays. We'll start off trying to think 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.160 of a recent series that started off kind of light 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.240 and then it got dark, and you're like, what happened. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.640 I think definitely in the same boat as anime. I 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.760 think doublemn cry Baby starts off and presents a completely 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.040 different anime than we land off. When we get to 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:36.240 the finale, I'm like, oh, yeah, it got me. It 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:41.920 got me with the doo wop in Weekly Shonen Jump 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:46.640 began serializing Toriyama's Dragon Ball, which became an instant hit. Today, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.600 it has sold over one hundred and fifty six million 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:54.360 copies in Japan alone. I used to buy it here. Yeah. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.360 So it began as an adventure gag manga, but later 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.440 turned into a martial arts fighting series. Considered many to 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.240 be the most influential shown in manga. Dragon Ball was 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.960 one of the main reasons for the magazine circulation hitting 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.720 a record high of six point five three million copies. 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.960 That's just that's really cool. Like that's insane that he 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.960 just like put out this this insanely successful with Dr 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.480 Slump manga and then immediately followed up with Dragon Ball. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.440 I mean he was like on cloud not he was 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:32.120 on Nimbus. Now, Nimbus is Nimbus for everyone that doesn't know, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.640 is the cloud that Goku rides on that you have 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.760 to be pure of Hearted in order to ride um So. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.520 The series success encouraged Toriyama to continue working on it 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:46.440 from four to nine. At the series end, Toriyama said 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.079 that he asked everyone involved to let him end the manga. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.880 He was like, just let me end it. He's done 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.240 that before though. Two Yeah, like we'll later see that 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:55.720 in Dragon Ball Z. I feel like as well. But 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.760 people just love it so much, and I think he's 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.920 just I think at times he's ready to close that 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.360 chapter of his life or even in instances where he's 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.160 like killed off a character and it was like, no, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.520 this was the right thing he said, so he could 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.680 quote take some new steps in life. Yeah. No, It's 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.520 it's so interesting because this is the second thing I 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.040 love that the creator is going through this. One of 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:21.160 my top favorite bands of all time is The Gorillas, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.480 and it's a if you don't know what the Gorillas are, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.560 it's a cartoon band led by Damon Alburn and he 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:31.440 collaborates with a ton of amazing musicians to make good 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.760 music and originally started as this fake cartoon band. There 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.560 was a story behind it, and the veil was up. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.400 I didn't even know it was Damon Alburn, even though 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.040 it's they sound identical, but I wanted to believe it 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.800 the same way I won't look at any pictures of 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.000 Daft punk with their masks off. I would do any 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.200 like research into who's behind the Gorillas because I liked 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:58.400 keeping up that that mystery. But as popular as the 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.000 Gorilla's got, Damon Alburn hated it. It It was it was 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.160 kind of like his I don't want to say hated it, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.000 but he kind of grew tired of it. He wanted 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.600 to do other musical ventures. He didn't want to do, uh, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.200 the Gorillas, and he kept leaving and he kept us 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.960 hanging so many times where I remember he was like, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.400 I'm I won't do the Gorillas until I do a 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.640 Blur album, and he keeps leaving and coming back. And 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.720 the way the Gorillas are now is such a far 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.520 cry from where it started. Where now it's like very 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:30.480 obviously Damon collaborating with people. Where I feel like from 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:36.160 Gorillas to about Demon Days is when like they kept 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.200 the ruse of this cartoon band going and then there's 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:44.120 beef with the artist, so same thing here. I feel 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.600 like a curatory almost like I'm done with this. I 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.640 need to make something else, especially coming off of one 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.320 banger series to another banger series, you would imagine he's like, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.200 I want to see if I can do another being 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.840 a creative art like a creative person, you know what 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:01.600 I mean. Like also, just like if I look at 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.920 him as a creative it makes sense that he wants 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.720 to move on with the different storylines move you know, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.360 right out, certain characters move on with like it just 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.880 it makes sense that that he would want to And 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.240 we're the ones are like no, please give us Yeah. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.920 And also it makes sense to me, like the math 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:23.280 here makes sense because dr Slump comedy hit dragon Ball 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.320 starts off as a comedy, then it gets serious and 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:30.680 then everyone's on board. It's blowing up and he's like, wait, wait, 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.440 I want to do comedy. So it really does make sense. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.120 And if you notice in Super the comedy ramps up. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.120 That was one of the most important things to him. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.280 That is very true about a curatory Ama is that 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.560 he has said that the humor is one of the 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.840 most important things of his franchise, and even um Toyo Taro, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.760 who worked on Dragon Ball Super, said that that was 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.000 one of the most important things to him, was the humor. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.240 So you're exactly correct, and it's funny because that's not 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.160 exactly why some of us watch it or or when 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.120 you think of dragon Ball, definitely think of comedy, but 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:02.960 I think of dragon Ball Z that's not the first 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.359 thing would be there. But yeah, So just to wrap 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.360 up this, during that eleven year period, he produced five 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.160 hundred and nineteen chapters god that were collected into forty 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.000 two volumes. So the success of the manga led to 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:20.480 five anime adaptation, several animated movies, numerous video games, and 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:25.560 a ton of merchandise. So we should get into what 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.840 these are. What is dragon Ball? So again we said 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.119 it was created in nineteen eight four. Dragon Ball was 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.679 initially inspired by the classic Chinese novel Journey to the West. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:38.920 There's a lot of elements from Journey to the West 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.400 that are in dragon Ball. The series follows the adventures 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.919 of the protagonists son Goku from his childhood through adulthood. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.399 Mainly his childhood, i would say, is the majority of 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.359 dragon Ball, as he trains in martial arts and explores 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.560 the world in search of the seven orbs known as 0:17:55.640 --> 0:18:00.000 the Dragon Balls, which essentially, when you gather all seven 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.160 the dragon balls, a wish granting dragon named Schanron appears 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:09.600 and will grant you your wishes. Another fun connection between 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:16.119 this and the Gorillas, Oh my gosh, so much. Jamie 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.399 Auburn went on to produce Monkey Journey to the West, 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:24.280 which was a stage adaptation of that story. A lot 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.520 of the art for it, to the promo art and 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.520 stuff leading up to the Journey to the West was 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.520 done by the artists of the Gorillas, Jamie Hewlett. So 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.760 in my eyes they're in the same universe. And if 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.639 you if Jamie Hewlett doesn't jump out at you right away, 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.440 Jamie Hewlett was the artist of tank Girl. Okay, yeah, 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.840 so the art for Grillas is so good. The new 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:50.159 artists so good and uh and I love everything around 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:51.760 the Grill is the lord that used to have a 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.959 flash website. If you are you trying to hijack this 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.280 episode and make it a Gorilla's episode. Oh, this is 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.840 just my longstanding plot to prove that the dragon Ball 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.399 universe and Gorillas universe. Well, you know what, if I 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.720 will say that Goku when he looks at a full moon, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.360 because he has something called a saying, which is an 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.080 alien from a warrior race. They have tales and they 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:23.639 turn into giant apes when they look at the moon. Henceforth, therefore, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.000 in conclusion, they are gorillas. Okay, And if you would 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.679 have let him just loose for a little bit, I'm 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.679 sure you would have grabbed a guitar start singing. So 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.320 that's dragon Ball mainly. I when I'm explaining dragon Ball 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.199 to people, Goku when he's when he's younger, Goku as 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.760 a kid, I'm sure this is very triggering to dragon 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.719 Ball fit. That is not all it is. It's not 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.080 all it is. There's so much. We were introduction to Boma, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:51.440 who is a brilliant scientist and a teenager who invents 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.840 the Dragonball radar. She ends up inventing the time machine. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.359 Everyone always asked me, like, who I think the most 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.639 influential character, most important character is in this franchise, And 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.119 I say, Boma. Without Boma, you don't have the radar 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.919 to find the dragon Balls. But also, she invented the 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.840 time machine that they later used. She invented an antidote 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:20.080 that saved Goku. She tamed a wild ruly man and 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.760 made a small child who ends up saving the world. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:27.480 So moving on to dragon Ball Z Yeah. Instead of 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.399 continuing the anime as dragon Ball Toey Animation decided to 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.399 carry on with their adaptation under a new name and 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.520 asked a curatory im to come up with the title, 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.040 and he came up with dragon Ball Z specifically because 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.960 he wanted it to be his last dragon Ball that 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:49.280 he did because, like I said, Toyama did not want 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.919 to do this. No, I don't know about that. I 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.000 felt like he was done with it. He was like 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.960 he was he was done. It was like that scene. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.040 This is another reference that you may or may not get, 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.239 but it was like that's Sen and Man on the 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.600 Moon when he's trying out new material. The Man on 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.680 the Moon was about Andy Kaufman. And then he did 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.760 the show Taxi. He didn't want to do the show 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.359 Taxi because he's that weird kind of comic who's like, 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.840 I do this weird comedy. I don't do sitcoms. He 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.399 does it. He's trying to do material on stage and 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.760 they keep asking him to do this character from Taxi, 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:25.119 and I feel like that's Howtoryama had to have felt 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.840 with people asking Dragon Balls and he's like, I got 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.280 these new drawings. I've been at this point. I've been 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.359 working on these dope games, dragon Quests don't y'all want 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.240 a dragon quest and I mean, no, give less dragon 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.520 Ball Z. Yeah, well, I don't know. I feel like 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.719 he still wanted to at least carry he loves that 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:46.120 man loves Goku, like really, at least from the interviews 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:47.880 and stuff that I read. I can't speak for him, 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.720 but I can tell he he don't have the same 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.120 love for Vegeta. Okay, he doesn't have the same love 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.359 for Vegeta. He definitely loves Goku, and I think he 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.040 did actually want to carry on his legacy. And so 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.199 dragon Ball Z follows Goku now as an adult and 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.400 he is now a dad. It picks up five years 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:06.199 after dragon Ball left off. It premiered in Japan on 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:10.800 April nine, nine, taking over dragon Ball slot, and ran 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.919 for two hundred and nine one episodes. I want to 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.359 tell you guys something when when Because I went on 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.200 Machinima's show to teach them about dragon Ball and they 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.560 just asked me, like my top three favorite episodes and 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:25.959 the like, you can't give those to them. You have 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.680 to they have to watch the whole thing in order 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.080 to understand. I'm like, no, no, no no, no, honey, none 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:31.800 of my friends are gonna sit down and watch two 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.520 nine one episodes of something. If I'm just trying to 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.640 introduce it to them, like it's it's a bit much 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.000 to ask when they also are watching Game of Thrones 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.240 and all of Marvel, Netflix and the c w d 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.720 C shows and like, you know and and uh my 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.800 Hero Academian and you know. So anyways, One punch Man 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.680 Attack on Titans. So I just want to say, asking 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.680 someone to watch two episodes, which Iffy and I tried 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.720 to do for our Dragon Ball Z are krilling it man. 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:00.640 By the time we got dynamic with was a whole 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.960 saga where they were traveling to Planet Namic, which took 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.920 up many episodes. It was a bit much. I will 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.320 mention that every anime that you listed is an easier 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.959 watch than to try and watch all the dragon ball 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:16.520 Z like Attack on Titans only going on his third season. 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:21.560 One punch Man only has one season, Hero three. You 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.680 can you can watch all of those. Do you love 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:27.199 my shown in theme? I don't know why. I just 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.920 gravitate towards that. I mean, because it's great. I was 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.880 also like, it's so funny. I really like One punch Man. 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:38.320 I enjoy it, But you do have to go and watch, 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.879 like my hero dragon Ball Z all the animals to 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:48.120 really really appreciate one punch man. Yeah, because it's making 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.719 fun of them. Yeah, because my buddy watched it and 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:54.000 he's able to enjoy it without seeing any anime. But 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.520 he's like, I'm sure there's jokes I'm missing, and I 0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:00.440 was like, like, my favorite one is when Gino is 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.960 telling his life story and side Tom is like, shut up, 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.320 Like because it is true and anime every character has 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.960 to tell you their life story when you meet them, 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:15.560 and that was funny on the nose joke. Yeah. So 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.200 Dragon Ball Z follows the adventures of adult Goku along 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:23.120 with his companions and as he defends the Earth against villains, 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:27.720 just like Dragon Ball and moving on to Dragon Ball GT. 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.720 I mean, you don't wanna dabble in the introduction of 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:34.000 your boy vegeta. I feel like, when you're real quick, 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.840 I understand, I understand why you might want to focus 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:43.320 on Goku has the greatest charnector arc here, but it's 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:47.080 the arguably more character development and Goku because Goku doesn't 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:50.359 need it. Why fix what ain't broken. You can't relate 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.560 to someone that's pure of hard than doesn't make sense. 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.880 Superman and Goku. I relate to both of them. He does, 0:24:56.640 --> 0:25:00.639 you are a very naughty person. I followed you on Twitter. 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:05.560 There's no way you'd be able to stand on nimbus. Yeah, 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.440 he can't. That's very confusing to me as a man 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.160 who has made two children. He can see he's still 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:14.359 pure of heart because doing doing the deed, because he 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:22.320 had no idea. Goku, in case we haven't clarified, is 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.520 not the brightest bulb, but he's like your little brother 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.080 that's dumb, and you love him because he has a 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:33.239 big heart and just just a little more clear for 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.280 anyone who maybe has never seen Dragon ball Z, the 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.520 whole kind of story of Goku is he is so 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.840 the same race is a race of aliens who conquer planets, 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.280 and when he gets to Earth, he bumps his head 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.200 forgets his memory, and it seems like it does a 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.480 little more than make him forget his memory. He's a 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:57.520 little he's he's kind of like the doofy strong character 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.159 that you've come to see in a lot of me. 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.359 Like almost in a sense, said Tomas, like because I 0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:06.040 Toma is caring about the cell. But when he has 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.800 to kick someone's but he kicks it in gear and 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.320 I think that's a very fine example of the type 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.680 of character that Goku is. And even if you haven't 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.000 seen Dragon Ball Z, but you've watched anime, you've seen 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.840 that character before. Vegeta is almost the complete opposite. He 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.760 is a very driven. He has a very which is 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.720 funny because I imagine a character like ready for the discussion, 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.320 but hear me out. I feel like Narto shares a 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.000 lot more traits then Vegeta, even though you see a 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.159 lot of Vegeta traits in Sousc, I feel like the 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:43.960 the kind of desire to get stronger for a goal 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.000 is something you don't see in Goku. I feel like 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.560 Goku wants to get stronger for fun, and that kind 0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.879 of driven for a goal is that you see in 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.760 a character like not at the is kind of more 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.360 of a Vegeta thing. And then you go full Vegeta 0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.200 with south Gate, which is like I need to be 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:06.760 better than you, um, which is Vegeta's drive one percent 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:12.240 Batman Goku Superman, So they have that dynamic Vegeta Tony 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:16.639 Stark Goku Captain America. Yeah, wholesome. So if he I 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.960 do think that we need to get into dragon Ball GT, 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.120 dragon Ball Kai, dragon Ball No, No, it's dragon Ball 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.439 GT isn't on my list. I only have a dragon 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.320 Ball KAI. So I guess we'll skip dragon Ball GT. Well, 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.359 you know the thing you need to know about dragon 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:35.560 Ball GT is that alright, let I can just give 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.600 you the first sentences on our research and then should 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.720 tell you everything you need to know. Unlike the first 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.160 two anime series, it is not based on the Cura 0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:47.399 Toyama's original Dragon Ball manga, being created by Toya Animation 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.720 as a sequel to the series, or as Toriyama called it, 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.720 a grand side story of the original Dragon Ball Toriyama 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.600 designed the main cast, the spaceship used in the show, 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.760 the design of the three plan it's, and came up 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.720 with the title and logo. In addition to this, Toryama 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.679 also oversaw production of the series, just as he had 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.400 for the dragon Ball and dragon Ball Z anime. Five 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.440 years after the end of the dragon Ball Z anime, 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:16.080 ten years in the Funnimation, dub Doku is turned back 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.560 into a child by the Black Star dragon Balls used 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.720 by Pelf and is forced to travel across the universe 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.160 to retrieve them, along with his granddaughter Pan and Trunks. 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.440 The trio go through various adventures in their journey to 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.399 find the black Star dragon Ball until they encountered Baby, 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:36.560 the evil artificial toughl who intends to destroy the saying race, 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.400 there's a lot more dragon Ball than that. You got Ka, 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.040 you got Super And we'll touch on that a little 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:46.520 bit with a friend, Collie Bear. Right after these messages, 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:58.680 welcome back to our introduction to the dragon Ball franchise, 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.000 and we are going to talk about dragon Ball Kai. 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.920 Dragon Ball Kai was actually pretty popular. It's something that 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.200 I feel like it's a It's a shortened remastered version 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.400 of dragon Ball Z. And when my friends asked me 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.840 how to get into dragon Ball Z, I normally point 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.160 them to Kai. I actually, truthfully, very honestly point them 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.600 to the movies. So the movies are typically about an hour. 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.480 They stand alone from the series, and I think that's 0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.520 a much easier way if you're trying to give people 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.840 kind of like a quick glimpse into the series, is 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.480 to introduce them to a movie as opposed to the 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.080 entire series. But if they are wanting to go down 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.760 that road, I normally tell them about Kai. So In 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.600 February two thou nine, dragon Ball Z celebrated its twentieth 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:46.440 anniversary and uh they rebrought so Toy Animation announced that 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.960 it would broadcast a re edited and remastered version under 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.560 the name Dragon Ball Kai. So the footage would be 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.720 re edited to follow the manga more closely, eliminating scenes 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.360 and episodes which were not featured in the original manga, 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.640 result teen in a more faithful adaptation as well as 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.760 a faster moving and more focused story. So people that 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:10.120 don't know, Dragon Ball Z is notorious for having filler episodes. 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.959 Their episodes where nothing really happens, and I personally love 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.680 them because I feel like it's a slice of life 0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.880 into the characters. And the reason why is because they 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.440 were making the show quicker than they were making the manga, 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.680 so they had run out at that point and so 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.960 they had to do filler episodes while they were waiting 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.720 for the manga to be released. Yeah, this isn't unique 0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.280 to dragon Ball Z either. This is something that has 0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.480 happened and not though and a lot of shows, which 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.160 is why the anime is usually run a lot longer 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.440 than the manga's because they have to feel they have 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:48.480 to fill the time between the story with filler episodes, 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.560 which is why you get an episode of dragon Ball Z. 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:56.479 We're Goku in Piccolo. Piccolo is a green the Machian 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.200 alien from the planet Namic and I go to the 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:00.880 d m V. They go to the d m V 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.680 and they learned how to drive even though they can fly. 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:07.320 But you know, it's a great episode, great outfits, highly recommended, 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.720 probably one of the most popular filler episodes. I agree. 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:17.560 Dragon Ball Z KAI reduced the episode count to one nine. Yeah, 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.880 that's from two. Remember we said dragon Ball Z originally 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.760 has two episode. So they cut all a lot of 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.080 stuff out and just kind of got to the meat 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.400 and it's at one and fifty nine. They also damaged 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:35.240 frames were removed and they yeah, they made it prettier. 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.680 They had a lot of Actually, the remastered the Vegeta 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:43.640 and Goku fight is beautiful, one of my favorites. Then 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:49.840 we were blessed, truly, We're truly blessed because on April 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:56.400 fift Toey Animation announced that Dragon Ball Super, the first 0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:01.040 all new dragon Ball television series to be released in 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.320 eighteen years. Oh we waited. That's a full grown adult, yes, 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.160 and a debuted on July five and ran as a 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:12.160 weekly series at nine am on Fuji TV on Sundays 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:18.120 until it's series finale on March this year. It was 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:23.280 after one hundred and thirty one episodes. When you're a 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.800 dragon Ball fan, you are committed. Okay, you are committed. 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.480 How many episodes does Friends have? I don't know, Seinfeld, 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:36.400 but we're looking at each of these, each of these series. 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.160 We're talking dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, g T. If 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.840 you're into that, Ky, if you're into that too, and Super, 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.000 I mean you're a committed fan to watch all of this. 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.320 So so the story is set in the years after 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:54.120 Majin Boo, which was a character which was a villain 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.400 and the dragon Ball Z series, and the Earth has 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:01.720 once again become peaceful so cured. Toyama is credited obviously 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.440 as the original creator as well for the original story 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.240 and character design concepts. Dragon Ball Super follows the adventures 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:13.479 again of Goku and his friends, but this time Goku 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.080 encounters beings far more powerful and attains the power of 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.960 a god. So he defends the Earth against the powerful 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.840 destructive deities and travels to other universes, this time to 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:28.080 face more powerful opponents as well. As nearly unstoppable foes 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.560 while learning his newly discovered powers under the Gods of 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.280 the Universe. Yeah, it was just the next place it 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.760 could go, That's what you're saying. So, what's what's more 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.920 powerful than like the levels of super saying we've seen 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.800 before and it obviously was super saying. This reminds me 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.040 of Marvel and d C because I feel like they 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.680 start at the this, you know, the street level, which 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.640 is like your your Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Peter Parker, 0:33:55.280 --> 0:34:00.120 and then move on to the the like I feel like, 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:08.200 what I like to global scale than space then universe Marvel, 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:15.400 which is interesting because cosmic Marvel and Avengers only intermingling 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.440 with big events like Infinity War. But I felt like 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.720 the way it was presented to us in movie forms, 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.360 you would assume that Avengers were bigger than Guardians of 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:30.040 the Galaxy depending on who you talk to, I feel 0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:32.120 like super comic book nerves are like, no, I've always 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.439 known that they're the same, but I feel like you're 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.360 average Watcher was like, oh no, the Adventures of the 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.840 Big Dogs and the Guardians are joined them, but it's like, no, 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.480 the Guardians of the Galaxy are the Avengers of Space, 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.919 and I, you know, hopefully we really get to feel 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.200 that in the next one. I feel like there's it's 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.480 just the way the story is told and how and 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.680 who we've had time to gravitate towards and love, and 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.880 you know, we've only gotten Peter Quill normally. Also, I 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:04.400 think it's because but you don't have like you're Captain 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.719 America or Stark, Like Peter Quill's kind of a goofball. See, 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.279 it's hard to kind of take him seriously as a leader, 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.839 but I do Iffy. Yeah, before we bring in Kyle, 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.439 I just wanted to touch on the animation process, Yes, 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.000 please do for how this whole thing works moving from 0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.920 manga to anime. So, when dragon Ball first began airing 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.719 on Fuji TV, digital animation did not exist and the 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.960 majority of the franchise was animated in the traditional fashion 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.359 on celluloid sheets. And in recent years, the dragon Ball 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.960 franchise has entered the digital race with numerous features, theatrical 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.640 films and in dragon Ball Super coming out. Um they 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.799 also have a new movie coming out this next year. 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.160 And what I was gonna say is they're working so 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.080 quickly and they have a little bit of a turnover 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.400 as far as animation, where there's a little bit of 0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.120 argument in the dragon Ball community, as far as the 0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.160 animation of some of the dragon Ball Super episodes aren't 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:07.240 always on point. Maybe we can include on our Twitter 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.000 Instagram some examples of that so you can see what 0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:13.000 we mean. It doesn't bother me as much. I feel 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.960 like they're trying to get this content out as quickly 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.680 as possible. But I understand, especially when you look at 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.759 some other anime that has been afforded the ability to 0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.440 really work on, Like our friend Lashawn Thomas. His the 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.960 anime that he's working on is Whof. That's his one thing. 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.040 Like how a Curatorama just wants it to be funny, 0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:36.040 Lashawn just wants things to look beautiful. He's obsessed with 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:39.319 the animation of It makes sense that that's not tory 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:44.879 AMA's first priority. We're gonna take another break and we're 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.919 gonna come back with our friend calibert to talk about 0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.279 some of the character to like my folio sat or impression. Yeah. 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.520 I was like, right, you know, that's just wrong with it, 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:09.200 and we're going back. I am iffy way the way 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.759 one of your hosts nerdificent. I'm Danny Fernandez. I felt 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.840 like I was cutting you off there you were, but 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.680 I'll let it. I'll let it slide this time. But yes, 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.279 we're sitting here a good friend of ours, probably one 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.400 of our favorite friends, who don't tell our other friends, 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:32.600 none other illustrious, the man with the golden voice. That's 0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.480 that's what they call him in the streets. You may 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.879 not know this. He's the man with the Golden voice, 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.160 the man of a thousand voices. Man. I don't know 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:44.400 if that's correct, but we're gonna round up. Um it is. 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.560 Voice actor Kylie Bart. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.480 having me. Thank you. Next time, I'm dragon Balls. I'm 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.759 that guy. Yeah you are. You are the voice of 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:59.600 many people's childhoods and adulthoods Um you'll I mean Kyle's 0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:04.440 nixt oxtensive voice acting as well as anime voice acting, 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:08.360 but specifically dragon Ball related the voice of adult Gohan, 0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.239 who had a huge crush on So technically, I guess 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.960 I had a crush on your voice as a as 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:19.000 a teenage girl, a teenage Danny also the narrator. That's 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.879 that you just did that? Man, you ruined so many 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:26.360 people's weeks. He's the most powerful dragon Ball character because 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.680 he is God. He decides when stuff goes down and 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.399 stuff stops because of a commercial break or whatever. You know. Yeah, yeah, 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:38.200 also ox King ox King. Yeah, So so to go 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.239 back because I just skipped over that Gohan is the 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:45.960 son of Goku. Um ox King is Gohan's grandfather. Kind 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.239 of incestuous. They're like, yeah, your just voice. If you 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:53.120 got Goku, you would have gotten the full chain. Yeah, 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.560 and then Bar Duck, who's Goku's dad, you could have 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:56.880 been him too, And then you could have just been 0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.479 the whole and go to him. Now. My my first 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.759 gig voiceover was was on the Bardoc Special and I 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:08.120 was like Horned Guy number one or something like this 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.080 dude with big horns that his gang takes on Bar. 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.239 Of course they get their butt handed to him, but 0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.120 I was like, this is a special moment. Man, I'm 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:20.839 on a show that I'm already a fan of. And wait, 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.560 so you were already a fan? What was your first 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.879 introduction to dragon Ball? Then five? I want to say, 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:32.200 the now defunct and America magazine had a cover story 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.480 on dragon Ball and I read it and I thought, Wow, 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.560 this is fascinating. This is this is different than like 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.360 Charlie Brown or The Simpsons, where everyone goes on for 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.600 years and years and stays the same age. This one 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.360 actually goes in someone like a linear pattern, you know, 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.320 a little Goku. He grows up, he gets married, he 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.320 has kids, and you see the kids grow up and 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.480 then they have kids. It's like, all right, this is cool. 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.120 It's like that part grounded a little more in reality, 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.280 making a little more relatable. It's not just oh anime, 0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:02.520 you know, you know, I go without listening out the 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.880 bankers because you know, we are talking about Dragon ball Z. 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.400 But like Dany said, you have a thousand voice. You 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.680 are you uh fighter Yeah, and we're talking about One 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.560 punch Man earlier and you were Atomic Samurai Summura. It's 0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:19.239 so funny because I've heard your voice so many times 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.000 and not realize it because I just jammed through One 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:26.000 punch Man recently and nice, I just assumed that I'm 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.040 hearing you at this point. Yeah. Well, the Twunami block 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.960 on Saturday nights on Cartoon Network, it is like the 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:36.400 Kylie Bear cameo because I was cocking on JoJo's Bizarre 0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:40.279 Adventure start as Crusaders. I'm Kiba still on on Narutosha 0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.080 Putin and um, of course that's wrapping up soon. But 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:48.319 um yeah, yeah, I'm on Hunter Hunter and as moral see, 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.360 if he calls it hunter hunter, we've been wrong this 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.040 whole time. Oh man, no, no, these Look we've had 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.279 some voice actors that call it Hunter x Hunter, but 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.960 I mean there are hunter hunter x Hunter, but I 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.680 mean they're not on it. But like right, we've had 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.120 people rights, but we gotta go with what Kyle says. Yeah, 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.879 well yeah, because it's directed by Tony Oliver, he calls 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.080 it hunter Hunter. Yeah, because I mistakenly going in there, 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.279 It's like, so, what tell me about this Hunter x Hunter. 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.600 It's like no, no, no, it's not like a shipping thing. 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:20.239 It's like a Hunter x Hunter. Like not quite. That's 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:25.680 settled if in the Nerdificent Encyclopedia. Yeah, see another another 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.960 another thing we should settle right now. It is Reu 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:33.560 not Ryu. Yeah, conferred that learned that the first time 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.840 I met you, and now I dropped. I dropped that 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.880 fact at parties. I mean you know, I dabbled in 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.600 the f GC, so I kind of already knew. Okay, mom, 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.360 almost you've already. I've been training, you know for the 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:48.040 past uh thirty years uh, and soon I'll be able 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:49.839 to step up to the plate. Go all the way 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.800 at EVO. I'm coming for you. I'm coming for xnic Fox. 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.600 You're ready coming for your face. I know that's were 0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.239 you following that at all? No? No, and yeah, not 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:04.960 at all. You're like, I'm DVZ out. Yeah, I'm good. See, 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.719 I'm casual gamer, so I button mash. Those guys would 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.360 call me in ten seconds. I love Dragon Ball Fighters. 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.160 I think it's an excellent fighting game, and that's found 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.480 a good fandom following, even for people not fans of 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.960 dragon Ball you know, it's like it's just an excellent, 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.440 well built, well constructed fighting game for people of all 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.440 different skill level. Yeah. Yeah, if you're not a big 0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.719 game or you can still play Dragon Ball Fighters. I 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.040 know because I did. I actually we were in like 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:34.680 a tournament or something. I mean it was like a 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.560 casual one that was happening at this bar. But I 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.279 beat the first person I played against. I did you 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.800 do it by stamming and hitting square? Yeah, that's what 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.920 I do. Yeah, I did pretty good. I think I 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.239 put No. I like messed around a little bit. But 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.080 people mistakenly think that I'm a gamer and I'm not. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.239 I can only be into so many things, people, I 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.120 can only be into so many things. You are also 0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:01.200 Professor Oak for Pokemon for for New York minute, because 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.640 that show is recorded in New York. But for the 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:08.440 case of Pokemon Origins, that four episode anime series, uh, 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.320 they did for whatever reason, cast it in l A. 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.440 So um. I took that role for that for that 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:18.480 very brief run there. So I know that that funimation 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.600 is based out of and they're the ones that dubbed 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.880 dragon Ball Z and they're based out of Dallas or 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.399 Flower Mound. So do you do all of your recording here? 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.440 I do now. When I was doing Kai, you know, 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.759 over the past decade or so, I would have to 0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.200 fly into town or if I happen to be there. Yeah. Yeah. 0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.720 But now technology has gotten really good with source connect 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.560 and and and and be directed over Skype, and these 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.560 these apps all talk to each other so they can 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.400 direct in real time and make sure everything sinks up 0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.319 with the lip flap and all that stuff. So I'm 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.719 able to stay here. I mean, yes, it costs them 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:51.920 extra money because they got to rent the studio out 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.480 and all that. But but I get to drive, you know, 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.640 just across town, as opposed to taking a whole day 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:02.440 flying out, you know, for hundreds of dollars, losing all 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:08.000 the money you made because anime pay is crop. It's true. Yeah, 0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.839 But so you were saying that you were a fan 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.400 of the series before you got on board. So did 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:17.320 did you feel like that made it easier for you 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.120 to jump in and do these boys because you're like, 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.320 I know what this is. Oh yeah, yeah. When I 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.160 when I first went in for the auditions, it was 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.400 an open call back in the summer of two thousand. 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:30.160 I get there and the receptionist says, Okay was living 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.440 in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah, I grew up in Dallas at 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.560 a radio job. I was on Radio Disney. It was 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.360 a DJ and Radio Disney. So it was Kara Edwards 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.359 who's Fidel and got in. By the way, we were 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.759 on the air as like a team show. You know. Wow, 0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:43.600 so you've known her for a long time. Yeah, we 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.080 go way back, okay cool? Yeah, yeah yeah, And once 0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.840 we we we got that voice acting bug and everything, 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.279 and we got in with Funimation started on Z and 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:57.399 you know, there's the ball was rolling. It's just crazy. Yeah, 0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.680 so it let's go on. The first role for them 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.800 that you booked or were you go on? Go On 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.759 was the first thing I tried out for because I 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:06.680 picked it out of the notebook. They said, just just 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.359 pick whoever you want to read for. I opened it up. 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.920 It was Gohan. I knew who that was, Like, I'm 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.080 reading for that one. Everybody else I hadn't seen up 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.600 to that point. I only seen the first two sagas 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.760 here and there. You know, the Canadian dub, the Ocean 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:25.240 dub isn't with you know, Scott McNeil as Um Piccolo 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.800 and Brian Drummond as Vegeta is like and you know 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.800 four or five different Gokus, Peter Colombus, Ian Corlette, Kirby 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.839 Murrow and so on. It wasn't even Sean Shimmeley yet. 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.640 Um so yeah, yeah, I fell in love with that stuff. 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.239 I was watching Pioneer put Out, like the Dead Zone 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.360 movie and all that stuff. So I was watching this. 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.520 It's like, this is so cool. I have Yeah, I know, 0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.520 go around the Apartment just next time on Dragon Balls. 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.719 Fast forward five years, I'm working on the freaking show 0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.480 and I was just like stoked fanboy dream times too. 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.839 You know, I wanted to get into voice acting for animation. Done, 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.520 and then I wanted to be on the DJ. I'll 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.719 be a DJ on the radio. Done. And then I 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.120 get on a show that I'm a fan of. Done. 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.719 Oh yes, So did this open the door for the 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:15.120 rest of yours? I think so because of the momentum 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.400 of dragon Ball in the first incarnation of two No. 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.600 I mean those big nineties early two thousand's when kids 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:24.279 would come home every day and watch that stuff. I 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.560 got to to roll in them. As they stopped airing 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.560 the Canadian dub and then starting with the trunk saga, 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.320 went to the Texas cast, and then that went forward 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.040 and then I was riding that way. Man. It was 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.399 like and then you just have no idea that you're 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.160 affecting a future generation. Yeah, that's what that was gonna be. 0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.759 My follow up question, What do you feel the point 0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.160 was when you realize, like, oh, this is bigger than 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.840 I thought it was. Well, it was just by the 0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:56.600 sheer amount of interest and enthusiasm on a global scale. 0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:59.920 I was. I was getting invites to convention still do luck. 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.480 I'm so blessed that I get to travel the world 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.719 and talk about something I'm passionate about and something that 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.880 means a lot to the fans. And um, you know, 0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.320 while I'm not a therapist or I'm not a doctor, 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.400 I'm not curing things. I like to think that entertainment 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:18.080 is therapy. And you know, I'm one small piece of 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.480 the pie. With all the creators, writers, producers, editors, mixers, 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.880 you know, all the talent involved behind the scenes, all 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:26.919 the people on the network level that get that show 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:30.640 out there and everything working from partners in America partners 0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:35.120 in Japan. Now dealing with this beheamoth of of fandom 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.160 thanks to social media and awareness and streaming and all 0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:42.320 that stuff. So yeah, yeah, it was unreal to to 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:46.280 ride that that wave. Remember when Suncoast Motion Picture Company, 0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:49.920 Remember that it had an anime section and a Dragon 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:55.040 Ball Z section. Gosh, yeah, the biggest anime definitely the 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:59.480 biggest anime arguably Onto Nami. But honestly, I mean, I 0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.400 think the only thing that rivals it as far as 0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:05.560 being mainstream here would be Pokemon. Yes, yeah, totally. But 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:10.040 now it's just its own just beast, and that's all 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:13.160 you can really call it. So you so you started 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:17.839 off as was the first one, the bar Dock. Yeah, yeah, 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.520 I started off a bit part voices because they hadn't 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.000 quite gotten to that episode that story arc with with 0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.720 the Orange Star High and Go Hunt in high School 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.640 and everything. They hadn't quite gotten there yet, but they 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.920 wanted to get the casting done in advance, and they 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.480 knew they were taking a gamble cut you off. You 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.840 already had it, but you were just waiting for it 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:38.840 to catch up kind of because they said, we wanted 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.759 to make sure because this is your first time, and 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.759 you know, there's there are people that are very established 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.800 actors that come in here and the beeps and matching 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.160 the lip flap throws them off. Yeah, because I don't 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.040 think people, I mean, you are not just voice acting 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.280 where you have to match something the animation that's already 0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.600 been done, because it's already been done in Japan. It's 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.400 already in Japanese. So you're not only that, but the 0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.320 writers are having to work so that the words are matching, 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.359 like you said, the lip flaps and stuff. And see, 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.879 nowadays it's a whole different ball game than that those 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.600 early days where censorship was king and Japan just wanted 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:16.719 to get the shows on the air and reach the 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:21.239 widest audience as possible, and that means children and the compromises. 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.640 The FCC steps in and tells you, oh, you see 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:28.400 that cigarette, turn it into a lollipop. Villain has a lollipop. 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.160 So it wasn't until I finally we got two redubbing 0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.520 Dragon ball Z in the uncut form, and I couldn't 0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.360 believe how bloody and violent that show is, Like this 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.239 is not a kid show. Oh yeah, no, not at all. 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.600 It was, but it was such a wild ride. So 0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.800 so you said, like the mouth flap thing was was 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.279 kind of daunting for a few voice actors. Is that 0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:52.920 still Is that still a thing where you kind of 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.600 have to deal with the beeps? Or have have there 0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:59.760 been technological advancements that made a little There are different methods. 0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:01.719 The one that I work with the most, and I 0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:03.320 think a lot of the l a talent pool that 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:06.319 deal with with anime and video games, like the cut 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.239 scene stuff, you know, not the dialogue per se, but 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.360 the cut scene stuff where there's at least rudimentary like 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.400 animatics or something where you're trying to match timing of 0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:19.200 something that's still done. That that's pretty par for the course. Now, 0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:22.520 I've also worked at studios where you have the dialogue 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.200 coming across the screen like you're playing Dance Dance Revolution 0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:27.560 and you have to say the word when it hits 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:33.000 the red line. Yeah, there's different proprietary versions of that, 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:36.400 and I dig that version. I think that's cool. I 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.680 have a question because you've voiced so many people, and 0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:40.640 I feel like this is taboo to ask, but like, 0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.640 do you have a favorite favorite? Is the next one, 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:46.200 the next thing that's coming, Because when you're a freelance 0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:48.799 contract laber, you don't know where your next meal, Yeah, 0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:51.719 your bill is going to be paid, And it's like, hey, 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.759 you're basically hired and fired all the time. Because if 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:56.320 I come in and I'm a bit part voice and 0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:58.839 I'm in one episode of one show, that's it. I'm 0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:03.240 done until hopefully I get called back and I auditioned 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:06.320 for the next show or story arc or whatever, and 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.040 if I get something bigger than yeah, there's a few 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:11.480 more hours. Here's some crumbs, and then video games pay 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.480 way better. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, then what are some 0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:16.680 of your at least I would say with you voicing 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.960 gohan Um, what were some of your favorite like arcs 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.520 of his or like sagas that you got to voice 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.520 or remember having the most fun getting to do totally. 0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:30.120 You know, from it sounds selfish and totally egotistical, but 0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.120 saying great, say man, because it was all about Gohan. 0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.120 It was about his dorky side, which I totally am 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:39.759 in tune with, and as much hate as I've seen 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.560 from fandom saying that was terrible, it was like, no, 0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:48.320 I loved it his most Gohan this Yeah, yeah, because 0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:50.960 you already know he's a badass. Okay, it's like, well, 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.480 what else does he bring to the table. He's naive 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:57.160 like his dad, but he's really nerdy. He's super super 0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:01.000 duper nerdy. Yeah, and I love playing that aspect of him. 0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.359 But of course, you know when you play the big, strong, 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.960 muscle guy who could just bring it and all that 0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:09.960 and be a killer team member, absolutely so much fun. 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:13.400 So then if you were just moving from doing radio 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:16.879 to now doing voice acting, Dragon Ball specifically like Dragon 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:20.120 moll Z has so many powering up scenes, how did 0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.879 you like work up to being able to do that? Well, 0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.920 you first get constipated and then you know, it's like, 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.719 I think that would make Sean Schimmel mad. When fans 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:32.520 would say, like, you sound constipated, It's like, well, how 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.640 are you supposed to sound when you're exerting? You know, 0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.000 like I try to do it and like the just 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:42.760 the um stress it puts on your throat, like unless 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:46.160 you're properly trained. Well, you know, it was kind of 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:50.840 our boot camp for now. You know, as is widespread 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.600 and mainstream as video game recording, especially for l A 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:57.920 talent is and how much RPG first person shooters and 0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.120 fighters and all that require a lot of screen me 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.040 and you're getting people in the talent pool going, I'm 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.600 not used to this, and it's like, oh, I got this, man, 0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:08.319 I've been doing this for years, like I've been born 0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.880 for this. I know. That's been funny. I think the 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:15.920 funniest thing the few times I've done VR work is 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.520 just when it's like all right, effort noises and you're 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:24.280 like and if you're doing on a on a game, 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.760 it's it's like structured a little different because the footage 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.279 is usually not there. You're just doing three takes in 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.920 a row of the linear script, just your lines. You 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.400 have no context. You're you're depending on your director or 0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:37.000 the client to tell you what the hell are you 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:41.319 talking to or responding to, or or like okay, three 0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:45.920 open mouth punches, three closed mouth now major damage, you know, 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:48.319 you know, and they save all that for the end 0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:51.800 the dialogue, this whisper stuff, the narration, all that's done first, 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.800 and then they blow your vocal cords out at the 0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:58.680 end of the session. Yeah, so you know, just to 0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:02.800 just for all those aspiring v o v a s 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.840 listening that are at the edge of their seat where like, 0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.680 asked something I want to hear. Uh. Something I find 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:12.399 whenever I get VO auditions that I've been like, wow, 0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:16.279 you guys got it rough is sometimes you'll get auditions 0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.800 where you just get wines without context, where it's just 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:22.160 like this, this is what they're saying, and you're like, 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:26.000 I'm supposed to act, but you're giving me no context. 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.400 What do you feel helps with that type of stuff? 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:32.000 I think if the client is and this is up 0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.200 to the client, I mean, if they have the foresight 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:37.640 to give you at least a basic short and I 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.759 do mean short summary. It's like, tell me what I 0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.280 absolutely need to know. I don't need a three page 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.440 exposition showing the holy world building universe that you have 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.640 at all the sub genres, like no, no, for the 0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:49.680 sake of this audition, what do I need to know 0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:53.360 about my character? Preferably a picture of him, an age range, 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.440 some sort of vocal quality, maybe an MP three or 0:54:56.520 --> 0:55:00.040 YouTube reference to It's like we kind of think I 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.279 like Christian Bale and it'll have a link and I'll 0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.040 listen to his delivery in that and it's like okay, 0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:06.320 so they want something like Christian Bale, but not just 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.719 like Christian Bale, so that it becomes that juggling act 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.080 where you want to give them something that stands out 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.720 and we'll hopefully nail the gig. I know that's always 0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.200 the dice role of like standing out or hitting it. Yes, 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:22.080 So I don't know who watches Rick and Morty in here, 0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.600 but white women all got invited in that episode where 0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.400 all those they were trying to find those like fake people, 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.279 like like they had the imaginary people. And then there 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:34.800 was the character Tinkles and he did the song like 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.319 some are in Tinkles fens at the end, group text 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:40.760 the whole anyone who know that I'm the only one anyway, 0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:44.360 They sent it to everyone on my improv group and 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:48.239 it said little John DMX type, and they sent the 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.319 track to do it to everyone else of my group, 0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:54.759 who are smart people the foresight to do it to 0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:57.800 the tempo of the song. But I'm like, nah, I 0:55:57.920 --> 0:56:00.480 know what DMX sounds like. I was so focused on 0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:06.160 sounding like DMX and so it literally was summarinty cools friends. Still, 0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.120 it was so slow, and like after we submitted it, 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:14.560 we all listened to each other's and everyone laughed. They're like, 0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:17.919 if you what are you doing? I was like, well, 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:21.960 it's soon to do Little Jaws. Sometimes thinking outside the 0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.480 box is that lucky move. Some people will land gigs 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.800 because they slate the beginning of the audition, which is 0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:30.799 their name and the role they're doing. It's like, kyle 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.040 A there, do eat this voice. You know. It's like 0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.960 and that will might catch the director's here and they 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:39.920 will hit stop because they're so sick of hearing auditions 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.560 of the same dialogue in and out, and it's like, oh, 0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:44.480 here's someone who did something a little bit different, and 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.399 maybe they improvised a line here and there. They could 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:49.320 have got the context completely wrong, but hey, they're not 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.920 gonna panalyze me because they didn't tell me, you know, 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:53.839 they're just gonna hear a delivery and they're either gonna 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:57.080 like it or they're gonna say next. Never take it personal, 0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:01.280 have a thick skin and um worts yourself from that audition. 0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.600 Do the best you can and wait for the next 0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:07.160 one to come along. Lather Rinse repeats, Oh man, that 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.480 bonus if you land the gig. Oh, I know right 0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:12.440 that that's for you. V O people that you got. 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.200 You had your section. Now we're gonna talk about anime again. 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.520 I want to know what was going through your mind, 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:23.960 because okay, so you do Dragon Ball Z, you do 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:28.160 Kai Kai Is in the books, you're like all right, 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.640 Like you were saying you're done with the job, You're like, 0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.200 all right, gonna do the next thing. And then they 0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:37.440 announced Dragon Ball Super. What's going through your head? That 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:39.920 blew my mind? Because we had the two movies right, 0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:44.600 the Battle of Gods in Resurrection F and those did 0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:48.440 gangbusters at box office in Japan and here they were 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:52.200 released here and then in theaters here in the States. 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:55.160 Oh yeah, and they had premiere with the Japanese voice 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:59.600 actors and the English and that it was just unreal. 0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.640 They they sold out screenings. They had to add more screenings. 0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.080 It's not like they made film prints like they normally do. 0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.720 There was just a digital thing. But it was nationwide, 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:10.600 it was worldwide for for a lot of countries, and 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:12.960 it did so well. So I thought, Okay, this is 0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:16.200 the future. The movies are probably easier to make and 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:18.320 they make more money. They're more probably. Yeah, so you 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:20.480 thought they were just going to stick with movies absolutely, 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.480 because it's set in you know, this, this this continuity 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:27.600 that kind of red Coons t t out of existence, 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.800 which a lot of people are fine with, especially Gohan's 0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:34.560 getting you know, nerved at the end of the Boos saga. 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:39.320 But and then Super comes along. It's like, oh my god, Wow. 0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.160 And then Super the movie, which is coming out what 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.160 in December and Japan January in English And No, I 0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:50.080 have no idea of gohans in it or not. I don't. Yeah, 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:54.440 I feel like it would honestly be a disservice. But 0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:57.600 I feel like if we're talking about your character of Gohan, 0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.919 I mean there's a lot of debate about him because 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:03.560 I feel like he, for people that don't know, ended 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:07.960 up being arguably the strongest character in Dragon ball Z. 0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:10.400 By the end of the cell saga, which is a 0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:14.440 villain that they defeated. Um but so Goku has always 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:18.080 been historically the strongest, and then Gohan, his son ended 0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:20.280 up kind of taking that mantle and everyone thought, oh, 0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.520 you're the new Goku. And then he ended up not 0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:24.560 he ended up, you know, which is fine, Like he 0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:28.800 just he ended up being more into academics. He got married, 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:32.840 he kind of settled down, and I don't know, I'm 0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:34.480 sure people come up to you all the time and 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:37.840 it's like I don't control that, you know, but like 0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:41.760 I'm I'm I'm just I'm interested to hear like your 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:45.360 take on his development or how you feel about getting 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:49.600 about playing this, you know, softer Gohan. I guess I 0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:54.480 think it's important to show depth in character and evolution 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:56.920 and growth, you know, don't just keep him stifled and 0:59:57.080 --> 1:00:00.680 just label or stereotype him as he's only this, he 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.880 can't grow. It's like, no, that's not fair. Let's show 1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:07.960 that he can be a responsible, good husband, good loving, 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:12.640 nurturing father, unlike his own who was not that. Again, 1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:16.640 if he did, you hear that because more of a dad. 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:20.960 I mean, let's be honest, can't parent if the world 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:24.919 is destroyed? I respect that. I do respect that he's 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:28.120 saving the world. He can't change diapers. I get that. 1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:31.520 I RESPECTA seems to do it pretty well. Well good, Well, 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.760 that's why Vegina is always in second place. And I 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:36.120 don't know, sometimes I feel like you're pulling in first. 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:40.440 He's coming through. He's given Goku his power. We could 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:44.480 but Vegeta and Boma. How did that even happen? He 1:00:44.560 --> 1:00:48.600 seems so unpassion Kyle, that is passion. Okay, that is 1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:52.320 too fine. I can't swear that it's too very fine. 1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:56.240 People who were sexually frustrated? Was that a one night 1:00:56.360 --> 1:01:00.640 stand that just erupted into something? I don't know? You know? 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.920 He yeah, we're what are we? Pg? I can't say 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:06.400 all the things I want to say, but I do 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:08.880 want to say that that is the result of two 1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:14.880 people in the summer heat. Uh, it's always like summer. 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.440 Whenever they're training. It's like she's in like a bikini 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:20.600 or whatever, like chilling at her compound, and he's like 1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:27.240 sweaty as hell. I'm sorry fan fiction. Um, you know 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:30.800 he's out there training. You know he's wearing lug boots, 1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:33.680 you know the ones that master flex war And then 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:37.160 to the hyperbolic time chamber and they all brow out together. 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.280 So so I mean super has been taking place the 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:43.960 last couple of years, so you've gotten to reprise Gohan 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:45.640 the last couple of years. And a time when it 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:47.800 kind of just was like he was done, you know, 1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:51.640 I thought, Yeah, I thought, if anything, he'll be minimally involved. 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:54.920 He's still not like majorly involved, but he had a 1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:58.800 bigger part that I thought he would. Yeah, well how 1:01:58.840 --> 1:02:01.960 does that? Like? How is that? And now rejoining the 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:05.160 concircuit with all of a sudden's all of these dragon 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:08.680 Ball fans coming back. I'll tell you it's killer because 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:12.200 this past year we had a lot of us were 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:16.360 invited to the Dallas area for the first Kameha con comicon. 1:02:16.480 --> 1:02:18.600 I don't know how you pronounce that, call me home, 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:22.560 but this is the first all Dragonball themed convention, and 1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:26.000 we had Japanese actors, we had Canadian actors and English 1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:30.200 actors and creators and directors and producers. All they're signing 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:35.320 autographs all weekend and panels and discussions and merch and 1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:39.240 artist ali just just the quality which is like blow 1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:42.840 you away, and it's like, man, the first year event 1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:46.760 and almost everyone was not from Dallas. They came from 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:51.000 other countries, other states, and they said, as soon as 1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:53.600 those those tickets went on sale, like almost a year ago, 1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:56.000 I ordered them. That's like I have to be there 1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:58.920 for this. This is historical and all of us who 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:01.360 work on the show, we're just blown away. And so 1:03:01.520 --> 1:03:03.880 yeah that that that's coming back. And then a lot 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:05.800 of us are on the con circuit anyway, so we 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:08.440 bring that to the comic cons and the anime cons 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:12.480 and yeah, it's just a juggernaut. It's not going anywhere. 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:16.480 It seems like it's never slow. It's only I remember 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:19.160 for the final episode of Dragon Ball Super, I think 1:03:19.240 --> 1:03:22.080 they showed because they showed it outside in Mexico and 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:24.480 they were like a hundred and eighty thousand people that 1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:27.160 showed up to watch the final episode. That's just in 1:03:27.280 --> 1:03:31.160 that particular area. Yeah, like think of everyone worldwide that 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:34.560 was watching the final episode. Yeah, like this this this 1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:38.360 kame con is inviting the Mexican voice of Goku. Yes, 1:03:38.680 --> 1:03:43.840 that's yes. I will say that is so big just 1:03:44.160 --> 1:03:47.240 alone when we were doing krill in it. How many 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:50.600 of our friends are Latin X friends that grew up 1:03:50.760 --> 1:03:55.240 watching the Spanish dubs to see that they're getting there 1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:59.360 just do as well. It's super exciting for me. Yeah, totally, totally, 1:03:59.440 --> 1:04:02.800 and it's like it's it's equal representation. You're getting, Oh, hey, 1:04:02.880 --> 1:04:05.080 I watched the ocean depth, Well, then you might want 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:07.760 to go talk to those gentlemen over there, and then 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:10.480 over here is the Texas people, and oh you want 1:04:10.480 --> 1:04:13.120 to meet Japanese vegeta. We're getting that really long, long 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:17.200 and we'll see what we can do. I am actually 1:04:17.520 --> 1:04:21.720 a co host of comicn this this year. Yeah, I'm 1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:26.600 co hosting it. Yeah, dude, I'm pretty sure that you are. 1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:31.200 But I don't control I don't control all of that. Um. Yeah, 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:33.800 I was announced last year. I believe it was Geeked 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:35.440 Geeked on one on one was a host, and now 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:40.280 I am co hosting it with him. So um, everybody, 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:49.360 brace yourselves. Yeah, continue this combo there. I guess. Well. No, 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:51.360 I wanted to say, just because we were talking about 1:04:51.440 --> 1:04:53.840 dubs really quickly, is that I don't want to get 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:55.600 into the subs for stubs debate. What I do want 1:04:55.640 --> 1:04:58.919 to say is my quick onet like two sentence rant, 1:04:59.400 --> 1:05:02.080 is that I think it's so beautiful that dragon moll 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:04.680 z can be dubbed in so many different languages, like 1:05:04.800 --> 1:05:07.240 it's in Portuguese, it's in Spanish, Yes, it's in English 1:05:07.280 --> 1:05:10.560 and Chinese and Japanese and so German. Yeah. I never 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:13.000 quite understood that argument of like, no, it has to 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:16.120 be like this one. The owners don't want it to be. 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:17.960 They want it to be dubbed in so many different 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:20.160 languages so they can capitalize on all these markets and 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:22.960 share their creation with so many markets. But also that 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:25.560 means that a little kid in Brazil gets too, gets 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:28.280 to watch it in their native tongue and and and 1:05:28.760 --> 1:05:30.520 and grow up with it that way. I think that's 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:33.160 so special, and I think that's really cool. It's a 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:36.920 very positive thing. I know, as if I were a 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:42.520 creator creating a franchise of that magnitude, I would want 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:45.480 it to reach as why an audience as possible around 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:48.000 the globe. And I'm not going to sit here and say, well, 1:05:48.040 --> 1:05:50.120 this is what we intended because this is the native 1:05:50.200 --> 1:05:54.000 language that it's in, So anything else's in our films 1:05:54.040 --> 1:05:56.680 get our films get dubbed into other American films and 1:05:56.720 --> 1:05:58.920 television get dubbed into other My brother, one of his 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.280 favorite things is a lot of Netflix. The animated shows 1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:03.960 on Netflix, you have the option of watching it in Spanish, 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:06.200 and that's how he's trying to teach my knee Spanish. 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:10.560 So yeah, and I think that's really cool. Um. Yeah, 1:06:10.600 --> 1:06:13.080 and the live action dub thing is is is a 1:06:13.160 --> 1:06:15.840 different beast. It's like because of the subtleties of the 1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:18.680 way the mouth moves in different languages, it's hard to 1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:21.880 sync up one language with another, like like it one 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:24.520 ends with a consonant, but his mouth is obviously doing 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:26.960 a vowel, like oh, it's like how do you make 1:06:27.000 --> 1:06:29.240 it fit and stay faithful? So it's like it's a 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:31.520 little give and take. It's easier with anime because the 1:06:31.560 --> 1:06:35.720 mouth is not as it's not like three D animation. Yeah, yeah, 1:06:36.440 --> 1:06:39.560 so yeah, it's it's fun times. Yeah, I know it's 1:06:39.600 --> 1:06:42.720 an exciting time for anime and it's an exciting time 1:06:42.800 --> 1:06:46.320 for DVZ fans truly. But the whole dragon Ball tour 1:06:46.600 --> 1:06:49.040 going across America now too. I have nothing to do 1:06:49.160 --> 1:06:52.160 with that, but maybe some of the actors might. I 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:56.040 don't know. But yeah, with Fighters and the Legends game 1:06:56.120 --> 1:07:03.760 on mobile and it's coming on switch. Yeah, it's taken over. Actually, 1:07:04.080 --> 1:07:06.880 we talked about this with our Comic Con episode, but 1:07:07.160 --> 1:07:11.280 the Hall H panel for dragon Ball Super for the 1:07:11.360 --> 1:07:14.920 new movie was like sold out. It was packed. Well 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:17.040 that's crazy because normally those are the ones like where 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:19.880 they show the Marvel trailers or the d C trailers, 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:23.040 And the fact that our anime that you know, not 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:27.520 everyone takes us seriously was completely packed for Comic Con 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:29.960 and had taken over. I remember, Um, I always saw 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:32.840 you post a picture. Were you you were there this year? Right? Okay, 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:34.800 well I saw that you had I think shared a 1:07:34.880 --> 1:07:37.480 picture because Gohan was on one of the elevators at 1:07:37.520 --> 1:07:40.800 the Marriott, and like, this is so cool, like to 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:45.720 see this interactive space with with UH, with these characters 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:48.120 just kind of taking over San Diego to me that 1:07:48.360 --> 1:07:51.200 it's blown up so much. And and I know you've 1:07:51.240 --> 1:07:53.479 been going to UH to comic Con for a while 1:07:53.560 --> 1:07:55.360 and I started going when I was like eleven. I think, 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:58.720 actually you probably signed something of mine as Gohan, I 1:07:58.840 --> 1:08:00.800 was like a pimple e team major getting you to 1:08:00.880 --> 1:08:04.040 sign something. Um, but I did. I had a huge 1:08:04.080 --> 1:08:08.960 crush on go On. Well that's fantastic, yeah, okay, oh 1:08:09.160 --> 1:08:11.600 I think it is time do you take this plane 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:14.960 down for a landing? Is there anything you want to 1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:17.120 plug Kyle there and let people know where to catch 1:08:17.160 --> 1:08:21.599 you where you're gonna be sure, Captain, we'd no. Yeah. 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:24.559 So I'm at Kyle Abert on Twitter, at Kyle aber 1:08:24.640 --> 1:08:27.240 on Instagram. I'm so happy that Instagram as of today 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:32.200 has just opened up applications to be verified. So I'm 1:08:32.240 --> 1:08:35.280 already verified on Twitter, but Instagram eludes me. But now 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:37.760 it's they made it public, so it's wait to get 1:08:37.760 --> 1:08:46.439 that Facebook. Do you get the Facebook right? Social media moment? Yeah, 1:08:46.439 --> 1:08:49.200 because strangely there are people out there wanting to imitate 1:08:49.360 --> 1:08:51.920 us on social media. It's like, I'm sure advantage is 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:58.040 there to do that? What is me? I'm Kyle Herbert. 1:08:58.880 --> 1:09:02.639 You know that's not right. Yeah, you're not pronouncing it right. 1:09:02.800 --> 1:09:05.439 H G B E R T does Louisiana French. So 1:09:05.600 --> 1:09:08.040 look me up on Twitter. That's where I am most active. 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:11.360 On Facebook, dot com slash Kylie beer v O and 1:09:11.640 --> 1:09:14.320 uh yeah, tune into Tunami. You know you're gonna hear 1:09:14.360 --> 1:09:19.800 me a lot show almost every show. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:22.439 Does anyone in your family, like, I mean, was it 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:24.000 a thing where you would like send your family, like, hey, 1:09:24.040 --> 1:09:25.560 I'm gonna be on this and now it's just like no, 1:09:25.960 --> 1:09:29.920 please stop everything. The first time I taped it when 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:33.320 it came on you remember VCRs. Yeah, I taped the 1:09:33.439 --> 1:09:35.800 first thing to run on TV. The bar Dock was 1:09:35.840 --> 1:09:37.640 the first thing that came out for release that I 1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:41.080 could buy in the store. But Cartoon Network aired some 1:09:41.240 --> 1:09:43.360 of the bit part stuff and then I showed my 1:09:43.520 --> 1:09:47.160 dad and he tuned out after about ten seconds. That's nice, son, 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:50.679 We are proud of you. Though it's like, all right, thanks. 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:53.160 I know it's not your cup of tea, but I'm 1:09:53.280 --> 1:09:55.639 I'm living my dream and it's like, well, we're happy 1:09:55.720 --> 1:09:58.799 for you, sons. So my parents rock. They're super supportive, 1:09:59.200 --> 1:10:03.240 cool love it. I am at MS Danny Fernandez, M 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:04.920 S D A and I F E R N A 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:07.240 and D easy and uh yeah, Like I was saying, 1:10:07.280 --> 1:10:10.439 if you're a dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, dragon Ball 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:15.439 super fan, I will be hosting Comicon, which it's in April. 1:10:15.600 --> 1:10:17.400 It's in April, so you've got time to get tickets, 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:20.080 but I would get them now. I think Texas. Yeah, 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:22.800 I think it ended up being sold out last year. Yeah, 1:10:22.960 --> 1:10:24.920 it was packed at least the V I p stuff 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:27.920 was it was packed, it was backed to hell. I 1:10:28.040 --> 1:10:30.400 was excited. You'd think the Beatles were playing. I mean 1:10:30.439 --> 1:10:33.240 I pulled up there from the from the hotel and 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:39.280 it's like, oh my god, screaming going on here, screaming fans. Yes, yeah, 1:10:39.439 --> 1:10:41.360 I mean people grew up with you guys, and now 1:10:41.560 --> 1:10:43.960 are introducing their kids, and they're growing up with it. 1:10:44.120 --> 1:10:47.680 It's actually kind of insane that you and a lot 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:50.759 of the other Texas that originated in Texas voice actors 1:10:50.840 --> 1:10:55.599 have been able to voice these characters for like two decades. Yeah. Yeah, 1:10:55.680 --> 1:10:58.320 and now we're speaking to like current gen people like 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:00.200 you know, I've worked on Attack on Ty in some 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.240 of the newer shows, and maybe kids today maybe that's 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:06.719 their first exposure. But then they start following voice actors 1:11:06.760 --> 1:11:08.720 and finding out that they were oh, let me check 1:11:08.760 --> 1:11:11.840 out these older shows, or they'll watch abridged, which is 1:11:11.920 --> 1:11:14.120 like free advertising. You know. It's I was like, hey, 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:17.200 these are funny jokes. Let's see what the original show 1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:20.599 actually says in these scenes. It's like, all right, we're 1:11:20.640 --> 1:11:24.240 gaining fans. That's great. Yeah, well, and you know me, um, 1:11:24.320 --> 1:11:26.720 if you wide away on Twitter and Instagram, if d 1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:30.200 s on Twitch. Thanks for coming through, y'all on the 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:34.400 twenty nine. That weekend, I'll be in DC doing Improblem 1:11:34.439 --> 1:11:36.640 with White Women's make sure you come through and if 1:11:36.680 --> 1:11:41.880 you're in the l A area. September another, another edition 1:11:41.920 --> 1:11:44.840 of Your Token Friend will be Alive and Direct on 1:11:44.960 --> 1:11:48.640 the UCB Sunset Stage. More info of that could be 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:53.120 found on those social media accounts that I just mentioned. 1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:57.120 Now you might be asking yourself, will will if you 1:11:57.160 --> 1:11:59.400 and Danny be able to cover the parts of TVZ 1:11:59.560 --> 1:12:02.240 that I like? Will they go do a deep diving 1:12:02.360 --> 1:12:04.640 dragon Ball? Will they do the deep dive on Z? 1:12:05.160 --> 1:12:09.120 How much? What about the video games like um Boudakai? 1:12:09.479 --> 1:12:12.760 What about the video games like bud find out next 1:12:12.840 --> 1:12:16.360 time on a future episode of Nerdive Sin. Yeah, don't worry, 1:12:16.439 --> 1:12:19.280 we got you. We got you. This is the one 1:12:19.360 --> 1:12:21.839 series I know the most about that I have tattooed 1:12:21.880 --> 1:12:24.479 on my body, So we will definitely be covering this. 1:12:24.640 --> 1:12:26.439 Somebody actually asked us a good question that I want 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:28.080 to address, and they're like, why don't you when you 1:12:28.160 --> 1:12:30.559 tackle a topic, why don't you do two or three 1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:32.680 more episodes on that topic? You know, like we did 1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:34.920 Twilight Zone. I'm like, oh, we'll deep dive into it later, 1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:36.920 and they're like, why didn't you do two or three 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:39.280 more episodes on twilight Zone. Well, the thing is is 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:42.519 that not everyone likes it, and so we want to 1:12:42.560 --> 1:12:46.000 give like a fun introduction to these Some of them 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:48.960 require additional episodes, some of them don't, but like, we 1:12:49.040 --> 1:12:51.880 don't want to do a month's worth of episodes because 1:12:51.920 --> 1:12:53.360 this comes out once a week. We don't want to 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:56.680 do like two or three weeks on twilight Zone. If like, 1:12:56.960 --> 1:12:59.200 you know, a core part of our fan base is like, yeah, 1:12:59.240 --> 1:13:02.640 we're good, We're good. Um, we could. And the thing 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:05.680 is that if he and I could absolutely just do 1:13:05.800 --> 1:13:08.519 the things that we personally are obsessed with, but we 1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:11.720 really want to learn about other fandoms that you know, 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:14.320 we might not be as well versed in, and and 1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:17.360 then also sprinkling ones that we are very well versed in. 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:20.960 And so it's kind of just our style. Um, we're 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:24.680 entertainers first, I feel like, well we're nerds first, entertainers, 1:13:25.600 --> 1:13:28.400 and then um, all of the all of the deep 1:13:28.479 --> 1:13:30.960 dive stuff. The short version of that is it's more 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:33.120 interesting if we bounce it around, and it's not the 1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:36.120 same thing over and over, especially if someone could be like, 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:38.720 I'm gonna sit this one out and sit the next 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:40.400 week out, in the next week out. So we like 1:13:40.560 --> 1:13:42.559 to we like to change it up. But don't worry, 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:44.680 Dragon Ball fans, we are going to come back. We're 1:13:44.680 --> 1:13:49.000 going to dive into the legacy of Goku. This was 1:13:49.160 --> 1:13:56.200 just an intro. Yes, yes, stay nerdy, nerdy, stay nerdy, 1:13:56.479 --> 1:13:57.479 Stay nerdy.