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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Straight firefam, It's made Jason McIntyre Straight Fire for Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: January thirty. First, the end of the month is here, February.

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Speaker 2: It's a leap year. I'm sure you all remember this

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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty, which was also a leap year. Also

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Speaker 2: had the Niners battling the Chiefs in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and also it was an election year and it had

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Speaker 2: Biden versus Trump. Yes, all of it reappening again in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. It's almost as if we get a

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Speaker 2: do over, just that being the Niners have a chance.

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Speaker 2: I will say this to you guys. We've had Adam

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Speaker 2: Churnoff on the podcast from Right Angle Sports. Right Angle

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Speaker 2: Sports on Tuesday morning gave out San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers money line in the Super Bowl one twenty five

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Speaker 2: went up to minus one thirty three and the side

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Speaker 2: went up from I guess one or one and a

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Speaker 2: half to forty nine ers minus two. Now, listen, just

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Speaker 2: because they gave it out doesn't mean it's gonna hit. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: they did have a very good season. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: rooting Niners and we'll do plenty more NFL in the

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Speaker 2: next two weeks. I want to do the Ben Johnson

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Speaker 2: thing before I get to Lebron. Obviously, this story about

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Speaker 2: should the Lakers trade Lebron? What do you do with Lebron?

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Speaker 2: A little overblown, but it's worth a discussion, Rob and

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Speaker 2: I'll chop it up, but I feel it. First, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to weigh in on this Ben Johnson staying in Detroit,

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Speaker 2: which is just a massive, enormous win for all my

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Speaker 2: Lions fans. I was thinking about opening the pod with

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Speaker 2: this Taylor Swift controversy. It just feels weird. But then well,

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Speaker 2: my wife is like, are you seeing these Taylor Swift comments?

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Speaker 2: And I was like no, And then you start like

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Speaker 2: actively looking and you see a bunch of just gobbly

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Speaker 2: go from a bunch of idiots, which is par for

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Speaker 2: the course on social media. I didn't see any of

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Speaker 2: it on ig It's really on Twitter, which is a

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Speaker 2: pathetic place. Elon Musk's domain. I know there's Elon Musk fans. Sorry, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's a It's a shithole, that's what it is. I

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Speaker 2: don't really like it. I'm only there for work. I

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Speaker 2: cannot wait to make enough money so that I don't

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Speaker 2: have to spend my time on there. It really I

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Speaker 2: feel dumber usually when I have to go on there.

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Speaker 2: It has some value during games if you miss stuff.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people clip off stuff that's interesting during

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Speaker 2: the games. I didn't see the CJ. Gardner Johnson waving

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Speaker 2: goodbye in real time to the Niners fans when it

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Speaker 2: was twenty one to seven, and of course that made

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Speaker 2: the rounds on Twitter. I wouldn't have seen it otherwise.

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Speaker 2: So there is some value during games. But outside of games,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, just a wasteland at any rate. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to get into the Tailor Swift stuff like

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Speaker 2: I just there's really no reason to hate or dislike

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Speaker 2: her or think the NFL is shoving her down our throats.

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Speaker 2: It's nonsense. You know, everybody's putting this out. An NFL

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Speaker 2: telecast is three hours long. Taylor Swift has shown on

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Speaker 2: screen for what like maybe forty five seconds through the

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Speaker 2: whole game, maybe a minute. It's a three hour telecast.

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Speaker 2: Guys like settle down. Obviously it's a great story tight

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Speaker 2: end most famous women in the world. I think what

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Speaker 2: this is is it's and this sucks. They're trying to

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Speaker 2: make it a political topic in that as Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: is pushing, Oh, Travis Kelsey got the jab and he's

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Speaker 2: stunting for Pfizer and blah blah blah, and now Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift likes Biden and all. I just I can't get

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Speaker 2: too worked up about it. Guys, Listen, life is too

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Speaker 2: short for me to get ticked off about people on

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Speaker 2: the internet angry that the NFL is showing Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: at the Chiefs Ravens game. Like, my life is too

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Speaker 2: the internet. Think the people who are going off on

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Speaker 2: social media about this, I'm just of the opinion they

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Speaker 2: really don't have a life. Like if you wake up

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Speaker 2: angry and your first thought is I've got to go

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Speaker 2: fire off this tweet about Taylor Swift, so I've got

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Speaker 2: I've got a good one, It's like you just got

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Speaker 2: to check the priorities.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, do you want to spend your life angry just

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Speaker 2: arguing with people on the internet, Like, just go enjoy it,

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Speaker 2: have fun. You want to laugh about Taylor Swift, go

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Speaker 2: for it. And I'm not telling you what to do.

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Speaker 2: I just it just feels a little silly to get

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Speaker 2: super worked up. Now. The Ben Johnson thing, I think

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson had made it sound like the Commanders was

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Speaker 2: zoom interviews. So once the Lions were eliminated, Washington was

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Speaker 2: flying to go meet Ben Johnson. Mid flight. Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 2: it's revealed on social media by Tom Pelasarro of NFL

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Speaker 2: Network that Ben Johnson's staying in Detroit. That's how Washington

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Speaker 2: allegedly found out. Ben Johnson apparently did not even call

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Speaker 2: him very awkward. And then within like an hour you

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Speaker 2: start seeing the usual stuff from NFL reporters. Well, Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson did not interview well over zoom. Well, it's possible

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Speaker 2: his focus wasn't on interviewing for a job in Washington.

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Speaker 2: And then you hear, well, his demands, his contract demands

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Speaker 2: were insane, and you know, for a guy who's never

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Speaker 2: been a head coach. It's just a bridge too far. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's possible. Yet despite the contract demands, Washington was still

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Speaker 2: flying to see him. Interesting. It is just so weird

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Speaker 2: how the smear campaigns work. Let's be real. Ben Johnson

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Speaker 2: amazing play caller. Everybody knows that. And as we've talked

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Speaker 2: about here, NFL is just saying about play call you've

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Speaker 2: got to build a culture. That's hard. There's no playbook

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Speaker 2: for building a culture, right, and do we know if

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson could do that? Who knows. Nobody has any clue.

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Speaker 2: You don't really know if you can build a culture

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Speaker 2: you know, Mike McDaniel was one of the guys in

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Speaker 2: to instill a similar culture, and it flopped miserably well.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel goes to Miami and Boom gets in the

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Speaker 2: the next year Boom nearly wins the division, gets in

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Speaker 2: Does Miami have a culture? I don't know. If anything,

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Speaker 2: you probably gotta mock it as soft and you know,

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Speaker 2: built for the regular season, but not the playoffs. You

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Speaker 2: know that, you know you could mock them as that's

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Speaker 2: their culture. But nevertheless they got two playoffs. Trip. You

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Speaker 2: know what, since Sanchez led the Jets to the AFC

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Speaker 2: you know, back in twenty eleven. I think, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: thanks to Dan Campbell, and obviously they've got an amazing

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go to Washington new ownership. I think, why,

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Speaker 2: You can make turn that into Drake may or Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: But I'm stunned he did not take the job. I

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Speaker 2: don't think Seattle's as good of a spot, and you

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Speaker 2: gotta wonder. Still very little on the Mike Vrabel front.

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Speaker 2: My buddy, who's a big Washington Commanders fan, he thinks

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Speaker 2: they should go after McDonald. I think that's no brainer.

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Speaker 2: don't want that. McDonald's defense shut down the Niners shut

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Speaker 2: you know what, it was actually the playoff. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: it was a playoff game against Slowik in the text

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Speaker 2: three times. And let's be real against Kansas City, after

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Speaker 2: those first two drives by Mahomes, I mean, Chiefs did nothing.

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Speaker 2: you know, given the can't miss label, the next Mahomes

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Speaker 2: the pressure is there. There's no pressure really on Drake May.

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Speaker 2: Jadon Daniels. But you told me you get McDonald, we'll

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Speaker 2: see what play callers are available. McDonald coming from Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: Johnson for making what is a tough decision. He's staying

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Speaker 2: in Detroit. And now I know Lions fans are geeked.

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Speaker 2: I looked up the schedule. We talked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot tougher being a first play schedule and

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Speaker 2: some of the opponents. I think they play eight of

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Speaker 2: their seventeen games or against playoff teams from this year.

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Speaker 2: And the good news is only two true outdoor games

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Speaker 2: good news for the Detroit Lions. I do think there's regression,

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Speaker 2: and I gotta be honest, I don't know that I

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Speaker 2: as we've seen for many, many years, when you're hot,

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Speaker 2: And we've seen a lot of coaches stick around just

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Speaker 2: And I'll just say the obvious. Lebron does not like

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Speaker 2: seems like Lebron has on regarding Darvin Haam and it's

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Speaker 2: like Gabe Vinson's been hurt, a lot of guys have

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Speaker 2: it's like where's the consists, see, and then it's like

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Speaker 2: the Lakers do not, under any circumstances want to get

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Speaker 2: for everybody, everybody that they want to trade for anyone

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Speaker 2: You might as well have to toss it an extra

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Speaker 2: first round pick. That's just how it is, and that

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Speaker 2: kind of how it is. Like just Dejanta Murray stuff, like,

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Speaker 2: read the article. I think it's gonna get some play.

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Speaker 2: As you know, mister Lakers fan, I need your takeaway.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The whole situation is not as

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Speaker 1: Because the Lakers this season with a mostly healthy on

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Speaker 1: you're not, And so then you go to the opposite

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Speaker 1: end the now, Kevin O'Connor didn't actually say the Lakers

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have anything that I would like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Wiggins, Draymond Clay whatever. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: And you go down the list and it's like, you're

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Speaker 1: you're you're not doing anything. If you make a move,

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Speaker 1: that's on the outskirts. You trade Russell, you trade Reue whatever,

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Speaker 1: you're probably not good enough. And then if you go

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Speaker 1: full nuclear and you trade Lebron James, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, Rob, is it possible

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Speaker 2: There is sort of you know, the Patrick Mahomes parallel,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, well, now you gotta go to the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: who're the number one team in offense, number one defense,

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Speaker 1: February yet, so everybody that's excited about Minnesota and and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City And again, I was pumping up Okay see

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Speaker 1: before the season started. So I'm gonna take a small

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Speaker 1: victory lap.

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Speaker 2: On that one.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Shay Gella, Alexander MVP dark Horse. But

429
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Speaker 1: the issue is is the Clippers are surging, Phoenix is

430
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Speaker 1: suddenly getting healthy, Denver is always lurking. They're probably not

431
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Speaker 1: going to push for the number one or number two seed,

432
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Speaker 1: but wherever they land, you're gonna feel like they have

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Speaker 1: the best path to the NBA Championship. So let's say

434
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Speaker 1: the Lakers stand pat they become a playing team again,

435
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: they sneak in again as a seven eight seed, but

436
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Speaker 1: instead of getting Minnesota or Oklahoma City in the first round,

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Speaker 1: you get the Clippers, you get Phoenix, you don't, you

438
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Speaker 1: get Denver, you know what I mean. So you're in

439
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: this weird predicament where I don't know what you can do.

440
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Speaker 1: And there's another question I wanted to run by you

441
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Speaker 1: because it's something that I think has been kind of

442
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Speaker 1: weighing on me as a Laker fan for the better

443
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Speaker 1: part of a year. Now. Is now koc didn't say

444
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Speaker 1: this in his column, but people who have shared have

445
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of shared this sentiment. Is well, if you're not

446
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Speaker 1: going to give Lebron the pieces to win a championship,

447
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: then you owe it to him to trade him, or

448
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: you owe it to him to push all in so

449
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Speaker 1: that you can make a run at the championship. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think Theakers, oh Lebron a damn thing, um

451
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: like I believe that his hands are just as dirty

452
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Speaker 1: for the things that have gone wrong when Lakerland the

453
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Speaker 1: last four or five years as anybody in that front office.

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Speaker 2: You articulated this, there's no way you can automatically trade

455
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Speaker 2: him where he's gonna win a title. I don't think

456
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: it works like that, because we don't know. You have

457
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: to like reshape the roster around him. I think the

458
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: real question is Lebron can't commit anywhere until he sees

459
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Speaker 2: what happens with the Sun. And it's not like Brownie's

460
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: lighting the world on fire at usc like he's he's

461
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: showing out sometimes, but he's up and down like any

462
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: teenager would be. I think ultimately this comes down to

463
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Speaker 2: the draft, and the Lakers will have a decision to make.

464
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Speaker 2: Do we draft Brownie or does somebody else get him

465
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Speaker 2: right now? I guess there's the off chance that nobody

466
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Speaker 2: takes him and he's an undrafted free agent. Then the

467
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Speaker 2: Lakers just take him in and it's great. But I

468
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Speaker 2: don't know. Is there a world where Detroit says, hey,

469
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Speaker 2: we would love Lebron. We're the worst team in the league.

470
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Speaker 2: We'll take the Lebron on a Bronni Show and they

471
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: just decided to take Broddi at the end of the

472
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Speaker 2: first round or with one of their seventy five picks

473
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Speaker 2: they have. I don't know, Rob is Lebron gonna go

474
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Speaker 2: to Detroit or is then he gonna hold a vendetta

475
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Speaker 2: against the Lakers. He's gonna play wherever his son goes.

476
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: I mean Ken Grophy Junior, didn't he play in several

477
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Speaker 2: places after Seattle? I want to say he was in Cleveland,

478
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: he was in Cincinnati, Cincinnati, That's what it was. Okay, Like,

479
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna go wherever your son goes. So this first

480
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Speaker 2: of all, the idea of trading Lebron it's not happening, right,

481
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Speaker 2: we can agree that's they're not trading him.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna happen. Zero percent, zero percent chance that's happened.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting is you sometimes you know, when somebody tells

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Speaker 2: you something, it's maybe what they're leaving out as opposed

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Speaker 2: to what they're actually telling you. Uh, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: guess I'd have to look over the story again. But

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Speaker 2: how many times did you see the name Zach Levine

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Speaker 2: in that article?

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Speaker 1: Rob?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Maybe two or three exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Dejanta Murray's all over it, which is you know,

493
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Speaker 2: the obvious one, and there's Kelly Olennock gets prominent mentions

494
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Speaker 2: and other names. You're it's like Jeremy Grant, really Zach,

495
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Speaker 2: Like I think Jeremy Gray would be a great fit.

496
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Speaker 2: Is he putting them over the top? I doubt it,

497
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Speaker 2: But I just found it a little interesting that Zach

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Speaker 2: Levine is mysteriously absent from this now. I know that

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Speaker 2: there was a report that Detroit was maybe interested in

500
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Speaker 2: him because they're that desperate and they don't want to, like,

501
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 2: you know, have the worst record and set some NFL

502
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Speaker 2: at NBA futility mark. But I just wonder if Levine listen.

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Speaker 2: I know, Rob, you don't like Levine as much as

504
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Speaker 2: I do. Nobody does. But if you can give me

505
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Speaker 2: Levine without partying with Austin Reeves, I'm just telling you now,

506
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Speaker 2: I think that is the one guy that helps them

507
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Speaker 2: make the jump to light speed. And I know that

508
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: sounds crazy because people are like, oh, he's hurt all

509
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Speaker 2: the time. He's not. He's just not at alpha. You

510
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: don't need him to be at alpha. You've got Lebron.

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Speaker 2: Like one of the things in this article, Rob that

512
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Speaker 2: that was interesting is the Lakers offense has been an emic.

513
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Speaker 2: What are they fifteenth in offense? Like that's not characteristically now.

514
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Speaker 1: They're they're fifteenth in defense, They're in the twenty Is

515
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: the twenties in offense.

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00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the offense is a Nemick and that's with

517
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: a healthy Lebron and ad what does Zach Lavine bring

518
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: you offense? And we know this is an offensive league

519
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: that you could be as good of a defensive team

520
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: as you want, and you ain't winning. You need offense

521
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: in this league right now to be dominant. And I

522
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: don't know, here's my other reason, if you're the Lakers,

523
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: that I would go after Lavigne. Rob, I'm not wishing

524
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: this on anybody. Let's just say Yokic goes down season

525
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 2: ending injury. Okay, who's the favors in the West? Sons,

526
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: what are they all? Gas? No breaks? Clippers. I guess

527
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: they've got good defensive wings, but they don't have a

528
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: big to hang with Anthony Davis. And then it's like,

529
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: you know, the Kings who have a lot of question marks, Timberwolves,

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00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: the Thunder, like if you can just hang around, hang around,

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Speaker 2: just like last year. Remember they go up against Memphis

532
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Speaker 2: in the first round, John Morant's hurt boom, Lakers dominate

533
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: like it worked out great. Then they beat the Warriors

534
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: in the second. I don't even know if the words

535
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 2: are gonna make the playoffs. I don't know, Rabbi, does

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00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: Levine excite you yet?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big Zach Levine fan because he's

538
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: a UCLA guy, and I remember when he was coming

539
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: out of the draft that I thought he was somebody

540
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: that because everybody wanted the next Kobe and Zach Lavine.

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Speaker 1: Even in college, you could see that he could fly

542
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: through the air like few guys in the NBA history could,

543
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: and he had a nice little jump shot, which is

544
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: all translated to the NBA. His problem, though, is twofold

545
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Speaker 1: number one. The contract is ginormous, So if he is

546
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: not the guy, and he very well could be, but

547
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: if he's not, you're in an even worse situation than

548
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: you were with Russell Westbrook. Because he just signed that

549
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: contract extension. He's getting upwards of fifty million dollars a

550
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: season for the foreseeable future, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: by the time that contract is deeper into it, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be worth that kind of money.

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Speaker 2: That's number one.

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Speaker 1: Number two, and probably the biggest reason why he wasn't

555
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Speaker 1: mentioned very much in the KOC article is that he's

556
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: been hurt this season. Like he just got back he

557
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: was hurt for a while, came back, and then went

558
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: back on the shelf again about a week and a

559
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: half later, and I believe he's still on the chef.

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Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be sidelined through the trade deadline.

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00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: Conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: So if you're the Lakers, can you okay, okay, go ahead?

563
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: Conspiracy theory. I want to hear this.

564
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 2: The Bulls are going nowhere fast? Is zach Lavine powering

565
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: down so he can get to the Lakers so he

566
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Speaker 2: doesn't suffer another injury. Bulls, by the way, twenty two

567
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: and twenty five, they've shown well without him. You know,

568
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: if you want to trade somebody all of a sudden,

569
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Speaker 2: you don't play them so you can ship them now.

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00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they faked his injury. And we've

571
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Speaker 2: got like the embiid situation where he's ducking the nuggets.

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00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: You know, I just I don't know. I still Plus,

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Speaker 2: I think Levine moves who moves the meter for you?

574
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Speaker 2: More Levine or de Jean dea Marie with the Lakers? Oh,

575
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: zach Lavine, Levine or Jeremy Grant.

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Speaker 1: Probably zach Lavine.

577
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the guy they need.

578
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but his contract means you have to give up

579
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Speaker 1: at least two of your like high priced guys just

580
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: to get.

581
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Speaker 2: Him, like Russell on a pick because Syonara fellas o wow.

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Speaker 1: No respect for the Japanese Jordan. I thought that was

583
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Speaker 1: your guys?

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Speaker 2: Do I do really like him? I like saying his

585
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: name as well. I forgot. By the way, if you're

586
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 2: looking for a sleep or should something happen to the Nuggets,

587
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: I like Luca and and Kyrie, I am curious. The

588
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: NBA trade deadline is a week well eight days away.

589
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: It usually is all hype and excitement and then nothing

590
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: really ever happens. Where do you fall this year? Because

591
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: it seems like more teams are kind of in the mix.

592
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: For instance, the Knicks are surging in the East, they've

593
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: won seven in a row. They Heat are fading in

594
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: the East, they've lost seven in a row. We saw

595
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: the Calves make usplash move for Siakam and they're inching forward.

596
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: They could crack the top four. I mean, by the way,

597
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers have the same record as the Phoenix,

598
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: and Halliburton's been out what two weeks down three weeks? Like,

599
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: I gotta give it to the Pacers, man. They are

600
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: fun and they're by the way, they're all offense, and

601
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: they got to the end season finals. So I'm just

602
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: telling Rob, you and I are on the same agreement here.

603
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: Offense is what wins in the NBA, and I don't

604
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: think there's a better offensive player out there than Zachlvine

605
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: that's available.

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00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Probably not. Yeah, I think you're right. And as far

607
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: as the trade deadline goes, I think ultimately because at

608
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: this point there's much more buyers than sellers. And so

609
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: what I believe is going to happen is that three

610
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: headed monster in the Eastern Conference that's all jockeying for.

611
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Like the ten seed, which is the Hawks, who the

612
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Lakers played last night, the Brooklyn Nets, who inexplicably destroyed

613
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: the Lakers in crypto about a week and a half ago,

614
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: and the Charlotte Hornets all have players that have some

615
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: kind of value around the league. And if any of

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Speaker 1: those three are all three of them, decide, you know what,

617
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: we don't care about making the play in We're not

618
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: going anywhere anyways. We're gonna start selling off our wings

619
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: like Finney Smith and Royce O'Neill. We're start selling off

620
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: to Jontay Murray, Bgdonovision in Atlanta. We're gonna sell off

621
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Miles Bridges and Gordon Hayward or whatever. Those guys I

622
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: think all control the trade deadline. If one of them

623
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: becomes sellers, then suddenly you're gonna see some of these

624
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: contending tight teams try to swoop in and make a deal.

625
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: If they all decide they'd rather try to make the

626
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: play in, it's gonna be a very underwhelming trade deadline.

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's starting to feel feel like that, a little

628
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: bit underwhelming. I am excited to get back into talking

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Speaker 2: about the NBA. As you know, this podcast has obviously

630
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: been heavy, heavy, heavy NFL and NFL is not going anywhere.

631
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: The off season is gonna be total fire. But yeah,

632
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: it's this idea. It's just it's a smart job by

633
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: the Ringer and Kevin O'Connor. Should the Lakers trade lebron

634
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: And you get to the end of the article and

635
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: you're like, they're not trading that kind of anywhere. By

636
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Speaker 2: the way, Rob, how much of Bronny have you seen?

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Speaker 2: I've seen a little bit of him enough to have

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Speaker 2: an NBA comp like, like, I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: disrespectful and call him like Patrick Beverly because that instantly

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Speaker 2: is like, oh, Patrick Beverly's an asshole, but like who

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Speaker 2: like player wise? No, Patrick Beverly scored like thirty seven

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Speaker 2: a game in high school. Yeah, he could get buckets.

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Speaker 2: He's just not in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Not a score. No, I think that you're right on track,

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, again, he's so early in

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Speaker 1: his development. I think he could be an als Caruso type.

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Speaker 1: I like that the size, you know, is a tweener

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Speaker 1: type of guard. But he can defend really well. That's

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Speaker 1: one thing he does. He's not a on the ball

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Speaker 1: type point guard that everybody's looking for these days. He's

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Speaker 1: more of the connecting piece. Like I think that his

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Speaker 1: high end, as you know, this is a weird comp

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Speaker 1: because he's hurt right now and he's been hurt for

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Speaker 1: a while. Is Lonzo Ball. Lonzo Ball was never the

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Speaker 1: Derreck Rose john Wall type point guard, high pick and roll,

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Speaker 1: let me score twenty, gets you ten assist. He was

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Speaker 1: always I'm gonna keep the ball moving, I'm gonna defend

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Speaker 1: at a high level. And then you look up, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's got eleven points, nine rebounds and twelve assists, Like

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Speaker 1: he's one of those guys who's just a very good

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Speaker 1: basketball player and his game is going to translate to

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Speaker 1: better talent around him. He might not be a superstar,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna be a high level kind of role player.

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Speaker 2: In the NBA, Bronni's listed at six to four. Rob

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Speaker 2: the other name that pops up is like a Josh

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Speaker 2: Green in Dallas. Get Bronni in the weight room, get

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Speaker 2: him some creatine, and he's kind of rocked up, and

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Speaker 2: he's that like come off the bench energy defense guy.

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Speaker 2: And then you know what, at some games, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be playing so well and in rhythm that he's on

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Speaker 2: the court at the end of the game in a

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Speaker 2: close game. I could totally see that being Bronni. Now,

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Speaker 2: other games, he's not gonna play much, kind of like

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Speaker 2: a Josh Green. He's just got to be a sniper

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Speaker 2: from three. That was fun, Rob. I like NBA. It's

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Speaker 2: it's good. We can chop it up anytime. All right,

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow on straight Fire. Talk to you then,