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Speaker 1: Cole had a song with Jay called mister nice Watch.

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Speaker 1: I only think Cole whiz watches, like look where his

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Speaker 2: That song is really bad and I wanted a nice

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Speaker 2: watch is one of the worst records ever.

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Speaker 1: Ever, No, you can't just say ever. Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: episode of the New Rory and Mall Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I am all, I'm Rory. How you feeling good to

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Speaker 2: two episodes in a row. Identify as Rory. We'll see

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like when you identify as Rory

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Speaker 1: less just got it.

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Speaker 2: Some know and loves some episodes. I feel more adding

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Speaker 2: some episodes, I feel more Demerius. He just gets a

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Speaker 3: You never know, because you got the dog in you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna ignore that and pretend like it's just

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling cool Man? Good weekend? Or spent

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Speaker 1: time with the fam? Family is in town, so spend

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Speaker 1: time with my nephew, my sister. Yeah, that was about it.

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Speaker 2: I know your sister listens to the podcast, so you're

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Speaker 2: probably gonna lie. How long without bad circumstances, of course,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm a listen, like you got a home? Yeah, honestly, man,

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Speaker 2: As an only child, it's so and.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the only child. That's why it's really weird.

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Speaker 1: But it's like I just I don't know, I like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I just like things in this But maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. You can't say it. You don't want

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Speaker 1: And then you know life is for us is better now.

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Speaker 1: And the first thing that happens, Oh he's acting funny.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, no, I just want to be alone.

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Speaker 2: Nothing ever works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's a great documentary out right now, Rory

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Speaker 1: the second one. The most Hated Man on the Internet.

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Speaker 2: On the Internet, I feel I've always felt that I

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Speaker 2: Name Hunter more? I want to say Hunter more So,

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Speaker 2: website for revenge porn where you could upload nude videos

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Speaker 2: This dude was a super dirt bag. I was watching

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was lame. He was laying for this. But

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Speaker 2: Now you have to go make something of yourself. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: It's it's just interesting to see how far the Internet

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Speaker 2: Now, we did learn something you and I were talking

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Speaker 1: It'll keep going.

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Speaker 1: So arguably the greatest artists living, greatest entertainer living, Beyonce,

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Speaker 1: Like everything on this album it was just like a

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Speaker 2: I saw people saying this is the most complete Beyonce

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Speaker 1: For me, Yeah, this, this album for me is definitely

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Speaker 2: See demas Reaching for the mic.

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Speaker 4: Oh No, I just wanted to ask if learned how

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Speaker 2: All looks like he definitely opened up the cologne sticky ship.

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Speaker 2: It was like, yes for me, Oh.

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Speaker 1: You think I'm one of them thirty Bronx niggas. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I put the Chanel Blue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she looks like you shouldn't you? Guys? You got

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Speaker 4: Ry, Where do you rank this on Beyonce's discography?

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Speaker 2: For you, I feel like this is a hard question

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Speaker 3: It's a really good album project choose wisely.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think.

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Speaker 1: Why would you change your mind in the hour if.

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Speaker 2: It changes, you know, your rank of whole albums doesn't

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Speaker 1: This is This is probably top three. This is her

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Speaker 3: It's very easy to listen.

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Speaker 4: So she's projected to sell between two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: Just how much sales have changed and how much like

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Speaker 2: Is their standout singles on this Hell yeah? Well, and

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Speaker 2: Everything runs into each other. Nothing feels like like with

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Speaker 3: I say that the internet has been loud about Alien Superstar,

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Speaker 2: Did, I feel like, even though I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be I like that record.

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Speaker 3: I just felt like she was talking about me.

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Speaker 1: It's the truth, all right, you feel like she was

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Speaker 3: Okay, Pure Honey is my.

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Speaker 4: Listen, all right, we learned Beyonce is an album artist.

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Speaker 1: So Beyonce is is arguably the greatest artist of her generation.

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Speaker 4: As far as as far as that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Love it no, the album. Look, it's just it's it's

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Speaker 1: Is that, this is This is what you expect from Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: You don't expect anything less, always expect greatness. You always

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's just what it is. You have to

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Speaker 1: She controls whatever she wants to do. She's gonna look

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Speaker 2: you become an album artist? Because there's very few people

440
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: that have the luxury of.

441
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: Just well an what an album artist is.

442
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: People are more focused on the full project, and you

443
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: have to do less of, if any, singles to get

444
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: someone to listen to your album, so you don't have

445
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: For example, Cold put out an interlude like a week

446
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 2: before his album. That's an album artist. Kendrick didn't put

447
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: out anything, even Drake rarely puts out a lot of singles.

448
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: People are are there for the full project now, and

449
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 2: I'm saying just for populars because there are more underground

450
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: that have the luxury because they just have a Colt

451
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: fan base and can just put the album out because

452
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: everyone's sitting waiting for their every word. But getting to

453
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: do that is really hard. Well, let's because four she

454
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: was not an album artist.

455
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: No, it definitely started with Beyonce. But that's what I'm saying.

456
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Let's and she forced that onus though, Like I don't

457
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: mean force, I just mean did she change the narrative

458
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: on her own because she went from four where I

459
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: don't know that like what seven fucking singles? She put

460
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: out mad Video like it was a very single based album.

461
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Then you just do the no rollout drop and everything.

462
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean that is enough of a bomb?

463
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 2: Is that your way to kind of ease people in?

464
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: But only Beyonce can do some shit like that, especially

465
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen.

466
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 4: Well, that's why I'm asking you to clarify album artists,

467
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 4: because an artist not putting out a bunch of singles

468
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 4: and just dropping an album is very different from an

469
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: artist who actually makes a cohesive album, like, for example,

470
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 4: I don't think that Scorpion was a cohesive album, but

471
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: it was. It just dropped and it didn't have a

472
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 4: whole lot of singles on it. Like Scorpion didn't have

473
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 4: that many singles when it had two, Right.

474
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: I think they might have been post singles.

475
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 4: I don't yeah, I don't even think. Yeah, I think

476
00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 4: they came out.

477
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: I know what was God's playing on Scorn. Drake Drake

478
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: is is good for doing the You guys might be

479
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: too young, mall. Well remember the street record, which they

480
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: would put out before the actual single. Drake will do

481
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: a street record that will be the biggest record in

482
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: the world and then not put it on the album. Well,

483
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: Drake just keeps because Lucy's are singles and then they're

484
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: not on the album a lot of times.

485
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: And he keeps a feature that's in heavy rotation. That's

486
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: you know, he's on everybody. He has a verse on

487
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: all of the biggest records of the year almost.

488
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: No nice for what that was was a big single.

489
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: In my feelings, very big single.

490
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: Uh, and my feelings was post that that caught. I

491
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: don't think he knew that was going to catch.

492
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: Yo. How the fuck did we start talking about.

493
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: Drake because we were talking about artists and Rory brought

494
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: him up as an album artist. So I was asking Rory, actually,

495
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 4: and an album artist, does he make cohesive albums where

496
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: if you listen to that, you have to listen to

497
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: the album from beginning to end, like that's what That's

498
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 4: what I.

499
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: Fair to put on an album artist because I don't

500
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to make an album like that. You

501
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: have to find the balance of yes, you can listen

502
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 2: to this straight through without skips, but songs need to

503
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: think it's lived by themselves as well.

504
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: I think it's just what makes a great artist. I

505
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 1: think it's bad to talk about double albums and cohesive.

506
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: That's too far for a double album to be cohesive, man,

507
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: that's just a double fucking music. It is a lot

508
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: of music, that's just a lot of us.

509
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: But see what makes it a double album? Because he

510
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 4: told you it was a double album.

511
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: I mean twenty five tracks.

512
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: Chris Brown will released a whole it'll be one album

513
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 4: and it'll be forty tracks, and he doesn't tell you

514
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 4: it's a double album. It's just Chris Brown's album.

515
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: Well that was adjustment to streaming, and yeah, that was different. Yeah,

516
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: the Scorpion is too drastically different sounds on two different

517
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: albums put together.

518
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: And this is only Renaiss, it's only sixteen and that

519
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: shit goes by fast.

520
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 4: It goes by really fast songs either.

521
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: So this is the first, uh installation of.

522
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of three, one of three. That's crazy.

523
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: Well, she got this one right, Yeah, so's it'll be

524
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: interesting to see what she does from here with the

525
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: next two installations.

526
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 4: Do you guys think that the next two installations will

527
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 4: be of the same genre or do you think that

528
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 4: she'll switch genre?

529
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: But I think the rumor is almost confirmed at this point,

530
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: right it's R and B for the next one and

531
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: then country for the third.

532
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: I want to hear with that country album sounds like.

533
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: We already know what an R and B Beyonce album

534
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: would sound like.

535
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if that would We know what an

536
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 2: R and B pop album sounds like from Beyonce that

537
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: has R and B songs on it, but an R

538
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: and B album like.

539
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: Beyonce doesn't have any all R and B albums.

540
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah no, what I mean, we know what it would

541
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: sound like. Beyonce's R and B.

542
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: Of course, but a full, full album, like a whole

543
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: album me myself and.

544
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: I Planet, So it's pop. But she's an R and

545
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: B singer like she's she sings R and B.

546
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: I would I disagree heavily. She makes R and B music,

547
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: but Beyonce is not an R and B artist.

548
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't think she's not artist.

549
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: She makes R and B music, but she's a Beyonce

550
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: makes pop music, and I don't mean like it's pop

551
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: because she's popular. Beyonce makes pop music.

552
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Beyonce makes she makes all music. She's going to

553
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: make country music, yes, but Beyonce is rhythm and blues.

554
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: There's nothing else to talk about.

555
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: I would say Lemonade was the closest thing a Beyonce

556
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: R and B album that we've gotten.

557
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: Well either way, Uh, it's just fun to see some

558
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: artists like this when they're in this creative zone. And

559
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, three installations and we got the first one

560
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: The first one is great. Everyone seems to love it,

561
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: seems some people not really feeling it. It is what

562
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: it is. You can't please everybody. So the R and

563
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: B installation or the country installation is next. We don't know,

564
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: We don't know which order is coming. But either way, listen, man,

565
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: just got to appreciate this type of talent, this type

566
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: of artistry, and hopefully find some inspiration through it. Yeah,

567
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: and whatever that you're creating, whatever that you know, and

568
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: try to create it at a very high level.

569
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what the exact definition of an

570
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: album artist would be. I think we kind of know.

571
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: But whereas these singles aren't the main focus of the rollout,

572
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: the album is, and then you're creating a full body

573
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: of work rather than a bunch of singles you put

574
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: out to hype up whatever this release is going to be. Yeah,

575
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: and but I think album artists have to be the

576
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: single chasers in the beginning before they can be respected

577
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: as the Hey, we maybe don't even need to put

578
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: out a single or put out one single announce the project,

579
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: and we're all just sitting waiting for the full project,

580
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: not your next single. Because Beyonce, like we said with

581
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: four was very much mad singles. It's a great album too,

582
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: but she was still in that space where she had

583
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: to put out a bunch of singles. We got to

584
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: do the pre rollout video. Shit. Now she's in a

585
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: space where all right, Beyonce, just give us album. And

586
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: very rarely do artists get to that space, like I

587
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: got the Collen Ketrick there. But they had to do

588
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: swimming Pools, they had to do the Miguel record. Drake

589
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: had to do best I ever had. Like artists definitely

590
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: that are already album artists still have to play that game.

591
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: And I just can't think of very many album artists

592
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: that we will stop everything for the full project without

593
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: having to hear a single or what's been going on

594
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: in their life.

595
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: What's your greatest album of all time?

596
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: What genre?

597
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: Any genre? Just to you, what is the greatest album

598
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: of all time? For me? It's Thriller? Okay, Michael obviously right,

599
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: So Thriller. You look at the single, you know, you

600
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: look at the video video, Dan, it was a short movie.

601
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: You knew that they were they were betting it all

602
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: on this album. This was the one that they felt

603
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: like was going to change music. This was this is

604
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 1: the album that was gonna solidify Michael Jackson as the

605
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: greatest entertainer in the world, the greatest artist in the world.

606
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: To me, when you say album artists, it has to sound.

607
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: The album has to be a complete it's almost like

608
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: a almost like a score of a movie. It has

609
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: to it has to tell a story. It can't Like

610
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: a lot of times these artists now, the albums that

611
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: they make, it just sounds like a bunch of records

612
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: that they just recorded and said, Okay, this is my

613
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: next album. But it's like there's no real story. There's

614
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: no real real like It's like, it's what is the

615
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: journey of this album? What is this album supposed to

616
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: do for me? When I listen to it? If it's

617
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: just a bunch of records with some features on it

618
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: from other artists, and yeah, you no good songs, but

619
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: it's like, what is the the the overall picture? Like

620
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: what am I getting from this album?

621
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: Can you do that? Though? With having to play the

622
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: single game, because every always has to at some point

623
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: it depends only to be a popular one. Because I'm

624
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: looking at side two of Thriller and if you don't know,

625
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: like know the album just beat It to Billy Jean,

626
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: Human Nature to Pyteth those four in a row. One

627
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: could make a case like those are four singles that

628
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: are by themselves, and this is a very much single

629
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: driven album. But then if you know Thriller, you're like

630
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: a Thriller is a complete album. So I guess maybe

631
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: we're just saying that what makes an amazing artist is

632
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: that they can do the singles, but those singles become

633
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: the full project. I guess I'm trying to word correctly,

634
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: because again, unless use four Beyonce as an example, let

635
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: me pull up that track list, because it's a track

636
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: list of a bunch of singles, But I would say

637
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: it's a pretty complete album one plus one, I Care,

638
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: I Miss You, Best Thing I've Never Had, Party Rather Die, Young,

639
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: Starter with Love on Top, Countdown, End the Time, Run

640
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: the World. But with both those there's eight singles in there.

641
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: Both those albums that you just mentioned, both Mike's and Beyonce's.

642
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: Even if they didn't choose to put those songs out

643
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: as singles, they fit in the flow of the album exactly.

644
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. The album separates. I guess

645
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: the album is a complete it's a whole thing. It's

646
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: not just oh, I recorded this song, let me put

647
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: that on my next album. It goes it's a it's

648
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: a chapter in the story. It's like, okay, this is

649
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: this chapter. Now this chapter like it has to It's

650
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: like you just know when certain artists completely stopped everything

651
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: that they were doing and like life just became this project.

652
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 4: And also they created the album and then picked the singles,

653
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: because I think creating the album as a full as

654
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: a project and then yeah, and then going out and

655
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: picking and saying, Okay, this one will hit in this

656
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 4: one will hit instead of going into the studio and

657
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: saying I need a single and then let's find somewhere

658
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: to throw this in on the album.

659
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: That's what I think is the difference between Four and Beyonce.

660
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: Granted Four ended up being a extremely great, full album,

661
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: but it definitely feels like they walked in and said,

662
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: all right, girls run the world. This is single, let's

663
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: figure out the choreography like that became a thing, where

664
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: whereas Beyonce, obviously she dropped it all at one point

665
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: and a visual with every record. Nothing on there felt

666
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: like we had to have a staff meeting about what

667
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: the first second single is going to be second single,

668
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: like but again chicken and egg theory. How do you

669
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: get to that space where you're allowed the I don't

670
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what the exact word would be. The

671
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: luxury of becoming an album artist, because there could be great,

672
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: great artists that already have the talent to make a full,

673
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: complete body of work, but nobody will care. You have

674
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: to bring the attention with playing the single game in

675
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: the beginning. So is there any artists that have came

676
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: out the gate from album one to five that have

677
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: not been on any type of single time Because Cole,

678
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: we know now is the most album artists you could

679
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: ever think of and hip hop currently maybe Kendrick, but Cole.

680
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: If you remember his first career, he was chasing every

681
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: fucking single you could find. He was striking out, he

682
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: was getting number ones. It was a single game for Cole.

683
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: He was doing features, he was grabbing Miguel on every ship.

684
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: He was grabbing. He brought Bernice to West fourth. He

685
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: was trying everything Cole had.

686
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Cole had a song with Jake called mister nice Watch.

687
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: I think Cole whiz watches anymore? Like look where his

688
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: life went? He don't even look like the same person.

689
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: That song is really bad and I want to mister

690
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: nice Watch is one of the worst records ever.

691
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: Ever.

692
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: No, you can't just say ever, I didn't listen. I

693
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: don't love it either. I don't. I don't. I don't

694
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: like the record like that. But just the fact that

695
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: Jake Cole has a song called mister nice Watch and

696
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: now you look at Jake Cole today and it's like, well,

697
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: this isn't anyone to make that type of music.

698
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: This isn't going on a tangent. I think mister nice

699
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: Watch and this first Cole project was the shift. You

700
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: know how we talk about fifty verse Kanye was a

701
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: shift from like the street shit to the nerdise shit.

702
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: As far as wrap, yeah, this was for labels, the

703
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: shift in U old fucks do not understand what's going

704
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: on because they was putting Cole in with every last

705
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: hit producer you could think of, who's the other guys

706
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: that was with whiz Stargate start. It was putting him

707
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: with everyone that didn't work, and Cole and E was like, bro,

708
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: can we just make our music. We know our fan base.

709
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: I've been on tour for two years straight. I know

710
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: what my fan base wants. I know what the internet

711
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: is saying what they want. And I literally talk with

712
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: my fans and they was like, nah, dude, we need

713
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: we need that single. And then that's how you get

714
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: a mister nice watch that's Jay being out of touch.

715
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: I know we're not allowed to say things. I think

716
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: Cole's career woke Ja up as far as an exec

717
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: and how times were shifting, because you see what he

718
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: did with Drake afterwards, they did more of like a

719
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: B side, cooler record that we knew the internet would

720
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: love instead of trying to do the single Chasey shit

721
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: with your jay Z verse. Yeah, because this, mister, what

722
00:34:59,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: come on bro?

723
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: This song? I like the fact that. But just to

724
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: me and.

725
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: I don't blame Cole. I blame Jay for this.

726
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: I think at some point this this actually helped Cole

727
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: and Holve's relationship because I think Jay did a great

728
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: job of stepping out of Cole's way. He let Cole

729
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: be cold moving at the beginning, not right, but I

730
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: think after this, right this album, oh for sure, after this,

731
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: I think this was like, you know what, you got

732
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: to let him be who he is. I think it

733
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: can't try to mold him into something else.

734
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: I think it was a transition for not just Columbia

735
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: rock at that time, for all majors that oh the

736
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: traditional way of putting out music with these new kids.

737
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they're grown me now, but Cole, Sean Kendrick,

738
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: all of them was kids at the time. With these

739
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: new kids is not the traditional way of building a

740
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: fan base or putting music out. We don't need a

741
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: single chase anymore. I think this started it. And then

742
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: with streaming, I feel like we went back to the

743
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: single chasing. I feel like we got away from it

744
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: after Cole's first album. And yes, of course you had

745
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: to have a single, not saying that, but radio became

746
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: less relevant. There was ways on the internet just to

747
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: create a fan base, to go out and tour, meet

748
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: your fans, put out a project, and you'd be a

749
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: Then Beyonce put out that shit in twenty thirteen and

750
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: a lot of artists thought they were Beyonce and realized

751
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: quickly that maybe I do need to put you not

752
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: being maybe I need to announce something. But it did

753
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: kind of solidify that things have changed drastically with how

754
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: we do music rollouts. I feel streaming put us back

755
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: into a big single game.

756
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: So many of you guys do something to get this,

757
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: to get the streams up. You got something to let

758
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: the people know your work and your recording something that's happening.

759
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: Look at Atlantic's roster. Half of them. Even putting out

760
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: an album would be dumb because there's so much just

761
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: put out the record on their Spotify profile with their

762
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: monthly listeners. If you see their their what their single stream,

763
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: and then what their album stream, it's like, wait, are

764
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: these the same artists, right? Because not only that the shows,

765
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh of course, fucker will have six billion fucking streams

766
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: and can't even sell it.

767
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: Soobs right, So that's right now, I know what you mean.

768
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: Though you think I'm exaggerated, No, I know what you mean.

769
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean.

770
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: So I feel like we have actually backtracked. And I

771
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: guess that's why I wanted to have the single verse

772
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: album artist conversation, because it has gone back to a

773
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: lot of single chasy things where playlists have now become

774
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: the new radio and getting placements on certain shit. You've

775
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: got to do the single stuff because you have to

776
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: get in the algorithms. The only way to get in

777
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: the algorithms is through singles. Yeah, so it's just in

778
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: a I don't know, it's in a fucked up place

779
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: for it's different for every single artist.

780
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: So we landed on I guess you know the comparisons are.

781
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, everybody on the internet seems to we want

782
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: to compare. You know, who's the greatest entertainer of all time?

783
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: Who's the greatest artist of all time? You know, you

784
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: got to be hive saying Beyonce. You know it's not

785
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: even closed. She's the greatest entertainer ever. You know, you

786
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: can understand why to be high would feel like that.

787
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: And then you have others that are of age that

788
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: remember remember the time, what was what was Michael Earth?

789
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's listen, it's I'm one of

790
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: the huge I'm one of the biggest Michael Jackson fans. Beyonce,

791
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's fair to compare

792
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: her in Michael Jackson. I understand, Michael Jackson is the

793
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: bar that every artist shoots for, every artist aims at,

794
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: every artist is inspired by at some point or another.

795
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: But that's unfair. You can't compare Beyonce, and because you

796
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: just you just can't. Man, it was a different time. Okay,

797
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Let's let's say if Michael Jackson had social media, like

798
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: are you.

799
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: We're comparing their careers though not their talent.

800
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: Okay, but hand in hand to begin with, hand in

801
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: hand started out early in their careers very young groups

802
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: went to solo acts. They are both true, actual vocalists

803
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: that could really fucking sing. They are true fucking dancers,

804
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: choreography everything. They sell out fucking.

805
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Stadiums, entertainers at the highest level.

806
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: They are true musicians. I think it's one of the

807
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: most fair comparisons to have it in a debate. They

808
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: literally mirror each other in so many categories. Well you

809
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: could say, you could say who would be better in

810
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: each category, but they both check off boxes and categories

811
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: where I don't think you could find two other artists

812
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: that do the same thing that check each box.

813
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But but there's other boxes though. There's you know,

814
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. Obviously, Beyonce is in SPI by Mike. She's

815
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: on the record saying it. You know, we don't have

816
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: to talk about that.

817
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: That's why they mirror each other so much, is because

818
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: Beyonce picked out Michael and chose to mirror him, right,

819
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted.

820
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: You can mirror, you can mirror. I could. I tried

821
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: to mirror Michael Jordan. Guess what jumpers I got was

822
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: the sneakers. That was it, you know what I mean,

823
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: Like it just wasn't you know. But I just think

824
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: that you have to let Beyonce, just let her stand

825
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: on her own, like, don't it's not you know what

826
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I don't. I try not to get

827
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: caught up in comparison to because it's just Michael Jackson.

828
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I've never seen video

829
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: of people fainting for Beyonce, maybe it's out there. I

830
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Michael Jackson had people feigning at shows like

831
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: it's just different, Like you got the military behind you,

832
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: you can go to these different countries like Escort and

833
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: you it's just a different thing. Man. Michael was, you know,

834
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: he was larger than life. He was you know, it

835
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: was almost like that he's not even real. And I know,

836
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: and that was to me. That's one of Michael's biggest

837
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: attributes was his mysteriousness. His mystique is or his his

838
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: ability to make you feel like he's not a real person.

839
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: You don't see him. He's not accessible. You're not gonna

840
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: just bump into Mic and a club somewhere or a restaurant.

841
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: You're not going to see him like that just didn't happen.

842
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: Well, all right, that's where I'll say the sliders on

843
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 2: certain things. So yes, as one of the boxes, Mike

844
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: has did have far more popular impact on the entire

845
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: world than Beyonce did. But also to your point of

846
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: different eras, I always go back to my favorite Drake Lin,

847
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how they survive in this era. Do

848
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: we know how Michael would have fared having to be

849
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: on social media the way Beyonce has been able to

850
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: keep mystique and stay relevant with social media, because that's

851
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: a fucking skill in itself. Who else can do that?

852
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Mike?

853
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: Who could be active on socialists?

854
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: If Mike post on Instagram, that shit would break if

855
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Mike posted, if he went live on Instagram.

856
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying if they were the same age, let's say

857
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson Rest in Peace would be forty years old today,

858
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: the way Beyonce has started career in nineteen ninety eight.

859
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: So Mike at forty is that what you're saying I'm.

860
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: Just saying, we don't know how he would have had

861
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: to adjust, knowing the way he spoke about just not

862
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: fucking with people and hates this shit, how he would

863
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: have maybe not remained as fucking relevant because he was

864
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: so scared of the public. Beyonce has found a way

865
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: that I don't think any other artist period has felt

866
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: accessible and so unaccessible at the same time, because we

867
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: when you go to her tours, those all those wedding

868
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: and baby photos and like the shit they do is

869
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: the greatest shit ever. Because she keeps herself so away

870
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: from us and then so much on top of it

871
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: when it's time to put music out, we feel like

872
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: we know her. And then she also can be this

873
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: mystique or like what's Beyonce. I don't know any other

874
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: artist that does that as well. So she has a

875
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: very active Instagram like Beyonce. And again you can say

876
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: it's a team all that whatever, it still takes from

877
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: Beyonce at the end of the day. Absolutely Also it's

878
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: all if so hypothetical. I just don't know how Michael

879
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: would have handled that. I mean, Grant and we know

880
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: he went through a lot of public scrutiny, but but

881
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: we can also Mike didn't fuck with people.

882
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 4: You can also say, I would Beyonce be as big

883
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 4: as she is worldwide if it wasn't for the Internet.

884
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 4: If she lived in Michael's era, would.

885
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: She be Beyonce?

886
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: She was gonna be she Beyonce was going to be

887
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: as big as she is, regardless of the era.

888
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: To me, well, I'm saying that Beyonce started her career

889
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy and it was the same age as Mike.

890
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, just because of the times for a

891
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: black woman as a pop artist, there might have just

892
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: been a ceiling regardless, So I think that's unfair to

893
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: say Beyonce at the same time as Mike.

894
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: I mean Diana Ross, not exactly, because Janet was huge too.

895
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 4: She was popping, she was a pop artist.

896
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: Janet was huge, I mean, and I think Janet would

897
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: have done better in the Beyonce era than her.

898
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: I agree on the era. I agree on that.

899
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: I say that again, I think if we went was

900
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: in ninety eight twenty twenty two, the Beyonce era right now,

901
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: I think Janet Jackson would have fared better better in

902
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: that era than her her actual era.

903
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: Wait, Janet is a fucking icon. What are you talking about?

904
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: Of course she is, but she would have been.

905
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: Don't think jigger a bigger icon?

906
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: How much bigger you want her to be?

907
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: You want her to be Mike close close to it.

908
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: It's not that it's not brother for her.

909
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, do you think Janet who's.

910
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: Bigger Janet j Obviously Beyonce is bigger, and.

911
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying Janet could have gotten to that level in

912
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: the Beyonce Let's say Beyonce is not here in the

913
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: Beyonce era, though Janet Jackson could have very well been

914
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: that because it was a different, more progressive time for

915
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 2: a black woman to be a superstar.

916
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: When Janet was the ship that Beyonce wears now, when

917
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: Janet used to wear it was deemed a riskue like

918
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: it was. That's where she got the sex symbols title

919
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: from as far as her and Madonna, because what they

920
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: were doing back then was risky. Megan do that ship

921
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 4: on Live every five seconds now.

922
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: And it put a ceiling on how big Janet really

923
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: could have got because the risky stuff they tried to

924
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: put a lid on.

925
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: Yes, like if Beyonce's titty popped out at the super

926
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: Bowl and her performance right now, nobody would care like

927
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: people would care, but they wouldn't have cared as much

928
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 4: as they did in two thousand and two when before

929
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: YouTube was.

930
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: And that was way at the latter part of Janet's

931
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: career too. That was more of a nostalgic performance than

932
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: it was a I'm actively putting out music performance.

933
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just don't like the caption

934
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Janet could have been bigger in Beyonce's ever because Janet

935
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: was huge like in her of.

936
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: Course, doesn't mean like hand to hand to Beyonce.

937
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I, in all honesty, I think

938
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: that you know, the fact that her brother was is

939
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: the biggest star ever on the planet, it's almost like, damn,

940
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: like they're comparing her to her brother. Well, Mike is

941
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: your brother. You're supposed to be just as big as him,

942
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: and it's like nobody's going to be as big as Mike,

943
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's kind of like,

944
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: but in her, in her regard, in her, in respect

945
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: to her, she's still an icon.

946
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: But look at us, we're comparing Beyonce to mic right

947
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: now as far as like.

948
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Because she's the biggest of her generation, she's the biggest

949
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: of you know, her time, Like, so you have to

950
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: compare the biggest of their times to each other. I

951
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: get it, understand, I just don't like to do it.

952
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: I like for people to kind of just especially when

953
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: you're talking Beyonce and Mike is just to me. But

954
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: either way, Beyonce is the greatest entertainer of her time.

955
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: What we didn't even think is close.

956
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: But we're not talking about if she's the greatest entertainer

957
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: of her time. We're talking about she's the greatest entertainer

958
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: of all time or the most successful. Honestly, the conversation.

959
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: Ready to put her above Mike.

960
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 4: Let's let's let's round back to agree with you, But

961
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 4: let's round back to the original conversation, right, because I

962
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 4: feel like the original conversation is a little bit more,

963
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: a little easier to actually debate. The question was who

964
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: had a better second half of their career?

965
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: That's what we asked last time. And I'm glad we

966
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: got on that tangent though, because that was good.

967
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeah it was, but that can be compared.

968
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So who had a better second half? Right? So

969
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: where are we starting the second half from?

970
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Well, they both were in groups as kids. So I'm

971
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: counting Jackson five and Destiny's Child time. Is that fair?

972
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: That's fair?

973
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

974
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: So I wrote down Beyonce's first album, which would have

975
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: been Destney Child was nineteen ninety eight, Michael's with Jackson

976
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: five was nineteen sixty nine. Michael's last album solo two

977
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: thousand and one. Beyonce's last album obviously twenty twenty two,

978
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: So that puts Mike second half of his career. It

979
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: was thirty two divided by two sixteen. Yes, nineteen eighty

980
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 2: five would be the middle of Michael Jackson's career, right

981
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: before the middle of Beyonce is Now would be two

982
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: thousand and ten. Hold on so right, yeah, two thousand,

983
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: two thousand and ten.

984
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: So so basically the four album four and on. Okay,

985
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: So for Beyonce, Lemonade, Homecoming, The Lion King, and now Renaissance.

986
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: It's a pretty renaissance and it just came out three

987
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: days ago. We can't recount that, cant.

988
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: It's a pretty fucking crazy lineup.

989
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: It's a crazy lineup, great lineup.

990
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: We said, what eighty five? So that puts the Bad album,

991
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: which is crazy, dangerous and invincible again, I don't know

992
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: if this is.

993
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: This a fair You're not beating those three albums. Niggas

994
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: can't fucking but see, this is what I'm saying. That's

995
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: why that's not fair. You gotta leave Michael Jackson alone.

996
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: Are we talking about talent? Are we talking about who

997
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: had a better career? Talking about what you're talking about?

998
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: It goes to Michael Jackson's.

999
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: Sleep about.

1000
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm a Michael Jackson stand I'm with I don't

1001
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 4: think anybody can compare to Michael. We're asking us who

1002
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: had a better half of their career. Second, let's not

1003
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: act like the second better?

1004
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah better, because the first half is not up for

1005
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: the base at all.

1006
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not pretty say.

1007
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: Let's I'm trying to do the sliders. So, because we

1008
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: know Michael's first half his career, we don't want to

1009
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: touching that show.

1010
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 4: Let's talk about albums because Michael did not have a

1011
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: good half of his second half of his career. I know.

1012
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: That's why I'm just trying to be We just said

1013
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be an asshole and just trying to

1014
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: help me on.

1015
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: We just said the second half of his career was bad.

1016
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: The bad album.

1017
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about his albums. Your career is not

1018
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: just the albums that you put out. Plenty of people

1019
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 4: put out.

1020
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm going off desography.

1021
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: What are you talking about.

1022
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: We're going we're going on, We're going off albums.

1023
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: Oh, you're just talk about so we're just about the

1024
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: Michael went skin that shi y'all shouldn't even try to

1025
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: debate that.

1026
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: If we just talk about albums, that type of ship.

1027
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't listen to talk about I.

1028
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 4: Was talking about touring. I'm talking about public perception. I'm

1029
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: talking about everything. If you're gonna say the question who

1030
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: had the better second half of their career? If you're

1031
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: just talking about.

1032
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but listen, man, we know that. We know what

1033
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: they try to do to Mike. We know what they

1034
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: try to do. Like we listen, we got enough information.

1035
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Now the feds rage your property twice, don't find nothing

1036
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: that means it's nothing there for them to hide. Like

1037
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: it is what it is, like Mike is the greatest entertainer,

1038
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: the greatest artist to ever like it is.

1039
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: Listen, man, of course we know Bad is the bad album.

1040
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: You said, what of course we know that. But if

1041
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 2: you're doing the other like I funk with Dangerous.

1042
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: Don't get it wrong.

1043
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: Is it bad as the bad?

1044
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: We know it's the bad album, Like fucking nothing's gonna

1045
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: be bad. I'm going with the other two Dangerous. I

1046
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: can make a case.

1047
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 4: No you can't.

1048
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: What's the case before.

1049
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: Beyonce Lemonade Homecoming because now you get all the hits too.

1050
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: I love being Lion King and Renaissance. We're not doing

1051
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: so you're just saying the bad album beats all of that.

1052
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm I'll say it that seven of those albums

1053
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: you talking about. Man, this is That's what I'm saying.

1054
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: It's not fair because then it starts to sound like

1055
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: we're not giving Beyonce respect. And that's why I don't

1056
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: like doing ship like this, because because before.

1057
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: We got our mic, you said that Beyonce wins No

1058
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 4: but no, But.

1059
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: Once you start telling me what we were counting, once

1060
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: you gave me what we were doing, now I understand, like, no,

1061
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: like not at all.

1062
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: Album you said that Michaels that was trashed. I'm calling

1063
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 4: you out.

1064
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: I didn't really like the what's that last album right there?

1065
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: Invincible Skate doesn't count?

1066
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 3: That is like he wasn't even this is like post humorous.

1067
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: I think Michael, I don't think Michael counts.

1068
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: I think this is also so invincible.

1069
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: Was the last one, yes, which.

1070
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: Was kind of I was gonna say, it's kind of.

1071
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: Coming off of Bad and Dangerous, like it's it's it was,

1072
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't up to.

1073
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 3: Bad this compared to the other two albums.

1074
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: But Butterfly, I mean it got no butterflies.

1075
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: The joint wrot my World was a joint.

1076
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: It was some ship on it. We're not going to

1077
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: go joints on it. But in comparison to Bad.

1078
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: And Dangerous, that's like nothing.

1079
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying all. I feel like everything from four

1080
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: on beats Invincible. Obviously Bad beats everything. So now you've

1081
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: got to debate Dangerous verse two or three albums in there.

1082
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: I can make a case. That's all I'm saying.

1083
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: Please click on Dangerous, please so we can remind Rory.

1084
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: I know what's on Dangerous. Dangerous is amazing jam that's it.

1085
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 4: Thank you, the first song for the time, the first

1086
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: song please heal the world? Please stop? Please? Why are

1087
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: you talking to me? Bro?

1088
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: You lie?

1089
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: You you you you?

1090
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: You put up a fight many fuck y'all.

1091
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Love on top.

1092
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: Great record.

1093
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 4: This is a great great record, would be like she.

1094
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: Brought to beat them.

1095
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's just yeah, it's just time that we

1096
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: just stopped doing it and stop trying to. I know,

1097
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: that's just human nature. Michael Jackson again, it's human nature

1098
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: to just compare the degenerations in the era and the artists,

1099
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: and you know, because everybody, Mike is the bar, that's

1100
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: what everybody's aiming for. But it's just leave Michael Jackson alone,

1101
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: you know.

1102
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 2: I think I did want to bring this up during

1103
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: the Beyonce thing. I wanted to highlight and I don't

1104
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: know why I had to bring Michael into it, but

1105
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: just for content purposes, I wanted to highlight that. I

1106
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: think it's amazing that Beyonce being the superstar icon that

1107
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: she is. I think her desography is getting better with

1108
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: her age, where we usually see, for sure artists that

1109
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: I agree their desography starts on the.

1110
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: Tape a little bit.

1111
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: I think she's in the best fighting shape she's ever been,

1112
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: I think, and.

1113
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: That's what makes her That's what makes her incredible and

1114
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: why we even have this type of debate.

1115
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to do. The second half Choreiah.

1116
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: It seems like she's getting better, and.

1117
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: I think that's because she isn't. Beyonce isn't getting into

1118
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: her forties like a lot of artists do and try

1119
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: to start catching one and trying to start being the kids.

1120
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 4: She continues to create and be creative and try different

1121
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 4: things and also know herself, know her limits, know what

1122
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: her voice sounds good on, know what her audience wants

1123
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: at the same time, like you know what I'm saying. Like,

1124
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: it's just she's very self aware, and I think her

1125
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: team is also very selfish.

1126
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: She is not just self aware, she's she's in full

1127
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: control at this point, and I think that's that's the

1128
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: most important thing. When you're in full control and you're

1129
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: a creative genius and now you have the tools and

1130
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: you have the access to bring your creativity to life.

1131
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: I think this is when you get the true artists

1132
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: and you get you know, you separate, You just separate

1133
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: the artists from each other. It's like, Okay, yeah, they're

1134
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: doing that, they're doing that. Those are cool. Those are cool,

1135
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: But this is something totally different. Beyonce is something that

1136
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: just stands in a category by itself.

1137
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: Better actor Michael Beyonce.

1138
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: Oh okay, you know what I'm not.

1139
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: Did you believe them as a wolf?

1140
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: No? I didn't for one second and thriller, I was.

1141
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: Not scared beyond think it's a bad rep for being

1142
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: a bad actress too. But I don't think that that's true.

1143
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 4: I think she she's not bad.

1144
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: Because people just can't stand to see somebody that's so

1145
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: big at like in music do something different and it's like,

1146
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: no matter what her.

1147
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 4: Role is, like that, they said j can't act either.

1148
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: The only person I've actually not seen get that backlash

1149
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 4: that much is bow Wow. I think people actually like

1150
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 4: people like bow wore as.

1151
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: I didn't know where you were going with that, but

1152
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: landing on bow Wow, No, we're talking about artists like

1153
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: Beyonce Janet, and then it's like, Shad, those are my

1154
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: big three bow Wow.

1155
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: He's a good actor, legend, but I was not expecting

1156
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: his name to be thrown on the fun we're talking about.

1157
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 4: Well, at this point, we're talking about people who are

1158
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 4: in music, no matter how big they are in music,

1159
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 4: going into the acting world. People like bow Wow more.

1160
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 2: As an actor, Beyonce and Carmen hip hop opera.

1161
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: I felt like oh my fucking god, and.

1162
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: Then did her sister the same as Johnson Family vacation.

1163
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: Damn nah down.

1164
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Yo five year said he signed to Mace for five

1165
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: stacks right, No, I love fave fuck with five man.

1166
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: All jokes aside, five year. Five year Fourren had an

1167
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: interview on Million Dollars Worth a Game shout out to

1168
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: Gillian Wallow saying that he signed to Mace for five

1169
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Mace then doubled back, double up haulm He

1170
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: did an episode of Million dollars Worth of Game, and

1171
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: he broke it down and said that five Yo in

1172
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: fact got seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I don't

1173
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: know if five He's math was wrong. I don't know

1174
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: how he missed that many zeros maybe, but it just

1175
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: seems like a classic case of a kid not knowing

1176
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: the business music business and feeling like he may have

1177
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: been taking advantage of uh Mace being somebody who elect

1178
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: and feels like he was taking advantage of at bad boy.

1179
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: I was hoping that that wasn't the case. That I'm

1180
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: like damn Mace, like I've been on my platform saying that,

1181
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, I wish Mason Puff can you know square

1182
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: that away and you know, move forward because Mace was

1183
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: such an intricate part of the bad Boy legacy and

1184
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: you know all these things. So now here five yo

1185
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: say that Mace has signed him for five thousand dollars.

1186
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: It was hurtful.

1187
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I wanted to know what that meant.

1188
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: What Fabio just said I signed to Mace for five casts? Like,

1189
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: what does that mean? You signed what in return? For

1190
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: five grand I didn't see that.

1191
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: I didn't see the episode yet. I am gonna I

1192
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: am gonna check.

1193
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: It out well, Mason, because I.

1194
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: Need to hear Mace breakdown exactly. You know, he need

1195
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: I need, I need him to get into I mean,

1196
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: while we haven't here.

1197
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: I want to read it clips for circulating And I

1198
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: watched him the longer version. Didn't get a chance to

1199
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: watch the entire episode, but I watched the longer version

1200
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 2: of this specific topic. So the one time I gave

1201
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: him five thousand dollars, but I gave him seven hundred

1202
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars because I sent him up to

1203
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: do a deal to where I can control the deal,

1204
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: make the deal what it should be. Because I knew

1205
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 2: if he had the leverage, he will go in there

1206
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: and sell both of us out. Okay, what Mace is

1207
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: saying there is there was offers on the table for Fabio.

1208
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: It appears that Mace would have been the production house

1209
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: more or less, which a lot of artists signed. They

1210
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: signed up production, and then the production goes in there

1211
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: and does a joint venture deal. For example, artists would

1212
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: sign to rough Riders and rough Riders would go do

1213
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: a deal with Universal. He's saying that if Favio went

1214
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: in there, he would have no leverage to do a

1215
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: deal with the label and would end up getting fucked.

1216
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: So he said, sign with me. I'll go in there

1217
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: because I have leverage with the label and we'll get

1218
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: a better deal out of it. It's what Mas is saying.

1219
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: More or less. Then we went in the building. I

1220
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: took eight hundred and he took seven hundred. The reason

1221
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: why I went down to seven hundred I'm talking about

1222
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: seve hundred thousand is because when I gave him seven

1223
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: point fifty and I took seven fifty, he owed me fifty.

1224
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: Mace claims he put fifty thousand dollars towards fa Yo's

1225
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: career before he signed the deal to Columbia Records.

1226
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't watch it yet, but I'm gonna

1227
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: watch it because I did want some some clarification on that.

1228
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make sure that, you know, Fave

1229
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeoh wasn't in a fucked up situation with Mace, just

1230
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: because of the shit that Mace went through in the industry.

1231
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 1: I was just hoping that he wouldn't be putting another young,

1232
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, just not knowing about the business artists through

1233
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: the same situation that he went through when he was

1234
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: a young artist. I was just hoping that that this

1235
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: wasn't a case of the cycle just repeating itself. So

1236
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna check out this interview just because I

1237
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: do want to know more about it, and it's always

1238
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: good to see you know, cats like Mace sitting on

1239
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: platforms and talking anyway.

1240
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious with the you know, what the

1241
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: deal was about, if they're going to talk about this

1242
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: publicly with everything, that's what I was more curious about.

1243
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't curious before, but right now that they're going

1244
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: back and forth, there's just there's there's so much that's

1245
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: left out in what they're saying that it's not even

1246
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: fair to make an assumption of what it is or

1247
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: what that five Ma's just only have five grand in

1248
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: his pocket at the time, was like, Yo, you signed,

1249
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: hold this for a second. We'll we'll take it out

1250
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: of the budget. I don't know what any of that was.

1251
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal with Columbia is. I

1252
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: don't know what the eight that Ma Scott was for,

1253
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: or what the seven fifty was for an album budget was?

1254
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: What was the advance out of here?

1255
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's too much shit, Yeah that it's more.

1256
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: It's more to it. Like I said, I don't know

1257
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: if Mace breaks all of that down. I don't know

1258
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: if he's on a million dollars worth of game breaking

1259
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: down the entire contract. But I was just hoping that

1260
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see that, and Lobby wasn't signed for five

1261
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. That's all I was. I was. I was hoping,

1262
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: and and Mace may Bee lying, I don't know. We

1263
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: gotta wait to see what five years says in response

1264
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: to may saying what he said, we don't know. I

1265
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: just hope that Mace isn't taking advantage of a young artist.

1266
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: Well, Mace Scott on Gillian Willow and said I'm Diddy

1267
00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: two point oh.

1268
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: That was a joke. He was just joking.

1269
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: And they put that out before. This was great obviously

1270
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: social media marketing, but in context, they put that out

1271
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: before Mace said pardon the actual interview came out, so

1272
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: it did look fucking nuts. You saw five five here

1273
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: saying he signed me for five grand and then Mace, Yo,

1274
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: did you point? Did you point to point? Oh?

1275
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was I knew what that was, So I

1276
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: knew what that was.

1277
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 2: Philly News.

1278
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to start calling me marster domas soon.

1279
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I told y'all that. I asked y'all, wouldn't

1280
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: is Will Smith and Chris Rock gonna sit down when

1281
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to talk?

1282
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: What about Malster donas? No, no, no.

1283
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: And as soon as we got home the other night

1284
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 1: from recording, Will Smith put out a video. I guess

1285
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: was this apology?

1286
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: Well you knew because you were holding the camera.

1287
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: To recording a man's apology video is crazy. You're not

1288
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: talking to the talk right here. Look at me, you

1289
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: look at me, Look at me, look at me while

1290
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: you apologized to him.

1291
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: Look, no, I I've seen those videos in different circumstances

1292
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: this one.

1293
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: So yeah.

1294
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: Remember when Jim Jones, I would love you think what

1295
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: you said was conducive to You're walking around the city?

1296
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: Classic class looking the camera and apologized I was.

1297
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: Classic, So yeah. Will Smith issued an apology to Chris Rock.

1298
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: If Eddin could scroll up so I can read the

1299
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Speaker 1: top of something, okay cool. Will Smith has broken his

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: silence and openly apologize to Chris Rock, posting an emotional

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01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: video Friday in which he goes through a series of

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: questions addressing his slap of Rock. His slap of Rock,

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01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: I like that, his slap of Rock on the Oscar

1304
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: stage just minutes before he would win the Best Actor Oscar.

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01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: Smith said that he reached out to Rock but received

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: a message in return that Rock will reach out when

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01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 1: he's ready to talk.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Chris is going to talk to him

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01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 4: in public. I think that's going to be a private call.

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01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: Well you think I think they'll talk privately first, they're

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: gonna sit down publicly for sure. He don't think got

1312
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 1: to be the first time that they speak, but they're

1313
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: gonna sit down on camera for sure.

1314
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: He also said they had nothing to do with Chris

1315
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: and Jada's prior back and forth said it was from

1316
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: his own personal ship.

1317
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: Which Chris said his only personal They said, is it

1318
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 4: because of Jada? He said no, me and Chris have

1319
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 4: a history.

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01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like I said, it's it's some things that's

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01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: probably behind scenes. I've seen a lot of videos when

1322
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: it all happened, and they were saying that, you know,

1323
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: Chris Rock had a bunch of stand ups throwing shots

1324
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: at them and this, that and the third. But my

1325
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: thing is this, Chris Rock is one of the greatest

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01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: comedians ever. Got to take all these as jokes. It

1327
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: is what it is. But Will Smith obviously knows that

1328
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: that was crazy what he did that night, and this

1329
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: is I guess it's his turning point of him extending

1330
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 1: the olive branch, trying to put this behind him. So yeah,

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01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: like you said, on Chris Rock's time, I'm sure Chris

1332
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: Rock could talk to him eventually, but right now, I

1333
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: think he's still on tour with Kevin Hart. He got

1334
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: shit going on. I know, I think he has a

1335
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: solo stand up that he's doing that he's great to shoot.

1336
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know when they sit down.

1337
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: I do believe that they will, and I would love

1338
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: to see it because I'm pretty sure that they're going

1339
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of shit that's gonna make

1340
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: things clear, like, oh, okay, now we understand why he got

1341
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: his jaw tapped.

1342
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 3: You think they'll still talk despite his response.

1343
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: Chris Rock's response, what was his response?

1344
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's trying to be a fucking victim. If everybody

1345
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: claims to be a victim, then nobody will hear the

1346
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: real victims, even me getting smacked by Sugar Smith. I

1347
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: went to work the next day, I got kids.

1348
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I listen, Chris Rock was embarrassed in front

1349
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: of the world, and it's hard to as a man

1350
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: to be embarrassed like that. And then you know, people

1351
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, you should just accept this apology. Shit,

1352
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: It's like, not when I'm ready to, you know what

1353
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, it's when he's ready to. And Will

1354
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: Smith understands that either way, Will Smith was wrong. He

1355
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: knows that he accepted it.

1356
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: He moved on, and Chris Rock isn't Chris Rock isn't

1357
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: wrong for not wanting to not.

1358
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: At all at all, Not at all, not at all.

1359
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: This has to be on your time. This has to

1360
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: be when you're ready to talk.

1361
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: But the fact that that Will even has to come

1362
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 4: out and apologize to the world is insane to me.

1363
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: Well, he had well, you know what, no one thinks

1364
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: this has anything to do with the thirty million dollars

1365
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: he just signed and the Emancipation movies being pushed back

1366
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: because of all this. This has nothing to do with

1367
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: Chris rock Well. Time for an image change. Yeah, I

1368
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: have a movie that was delayed because of my directions.

1369
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: They gave me thirty million dollars. Yes, I have to

1370
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: do a fucking video. It looked like this really nice

1371
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: guy and this is yeah, of course, but it's just

1372
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: fucked up.

1373
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: But he has to talk about a publisher because what

1374
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: he did was public.

1375
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 4: He's had a squeaky clean career. This isn't a career

1376
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: fucking criminal who has always been in the media for

1377
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 4: some scallesshruck. He's had a squeaky clean career. He made

1378
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 4: one mistake and they've made him out to be Will Smith.

1379
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: He the one who did not curse in his raps

1380
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 4: or anything like. Parents just don't understand Will Smith. They

1381
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 4: have made him out to be the biggest, scariest black.

1382
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: Man it's not that he just.

1383
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 4: His colleagues. When all those people were coming out saying

1384
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 4: I was scared for my life and this is abominable.

1385
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 4: He could have killed Chris. They all did that ship.

1386
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, those people that just never had the shit slapped

1387
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: out of nobody was going to die.

1388
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 4: So many of his colleagues.

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Speaker 1: It's well, he had to come out publicly and apologize

1390
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: because what he did was public, so he had to

1391
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: do that publicly. I do agree with Rory. I do

1392
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: think that this is pr where he has to clean

1393
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: up the mess that he created. He has to try

1394
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: to put it behind him. It's a lot of money

1395
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: at stake. Even though will Smith has a lot of money,

1396
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still a lot of money to make

1397
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of money that he has lined up.

1398
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: And I thought it was a bitch move. And I

1399
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: don't know if this is the way they're trying to

1400
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: angle it, but it is kind of how it could

1401
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: be perceived. Don't ask me I'm ready to talk on

1402
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: some public platform when you know I'm on a world tour.

1403
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm not at home chilling. You know I'm doing shit.

1404
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: And now if I don't respond, now I could be

1405
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: perceived as like you sure one, like, oh, Chris Rock,

1406
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: Will Smith did this heartfelt atology and now Chris Rock

1407
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 2: is just saying he'll talk to you. No, No, he's on

1408
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: a world tour.

1409
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: Let me alone.

1410
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm working.

1411
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: No, that's the fact. But Will Smith did reach out public,

1412
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean privately.

1413
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 2: He's been on tour right.

1414
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is this was he had to

1415
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: do this because his actions were public. Was on the

1416
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: on the Oscar stage.

1417
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like he's reaching out.

1418
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: He's reached out to Chris Rock behind cameras and no,

1419
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: MIC's nothing. He's reached out.

1420
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: But he's been on tours since that incident, Like he

1421
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: went on tour the next week.

1422
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: He's just letting He just letting the public know, like, Yo,

1423
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, reached out.

1424
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: I haven't replied to less for spot dates we've done

1425
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: in LA, Like he's on a world tour.

1426
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: That's the twenty minute conversation on the phone. You've he

1427
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 4: has twenty minutes.

1428
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: No, that's gonna be longer than twenty minutes. You slapped

1429
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: me on the Oscar stage. We're gonna have to talk

1430
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: more than twenty minutes.

1431
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: My nigga and I need my five.

1432
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like and we yeah, we lined it up.

1433
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: We're catching his face. All of that is happening, and

1434
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,479
Speaker 1: then after that maybe we could we could be cool again.

1435
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: But we definitely talked.

1436
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: Will never said like, oh, he just like he's not

1437
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: mad that he doesn't want to talk to him. Will

1438
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 4: Sting is more like, Okay, I'm apologizing to your mother.

1439
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: I'm apologizing to your brother who I was cool with,

1440
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 4: which I understand because when you're friends with somebody and

1441
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 4: you slapped the shit out they sibling, it's like, I've

1442
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: had that happen to me.

1443
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if I slap a nigga, but.

1444
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: I'm not apologizing to you my mom.

1445
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I slap, if I slapped somebody in private,

1446
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going on ig apologizing to they moms. He had.

1447
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: Will Smith had to do that because he slapped Chris

1448
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Rock on one of the biggest stages in Hollywood.

1449
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: I just don't like with this press release they put

1450
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: out that Will had reached out and Chris said, no,

1451
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: I thought that was just a move because he's on tour.

1452
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 4: Well, the number one question people asked the moment this

1453
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 4: popped up, because the moment he started talking, the first

1454
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 4: thing I said, was what the fuck you ain't call

1455
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 4: his phone with this? And then he came out and

1456
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 4: said the reason why is because well he had I

1457
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 4: didn't come to his phone with this. He said he

1458
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 4: didn't want to talk because the moment he starts apologizing,

1459
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: the first thing everybody's going to say is why didn't

1460
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 4: you call his phone and say this? Why are you

1461
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 4: telling us?

1462
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: And I think that's still not there because I'm on

1463
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: a world tour.

1464
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: I just like the fact that all you know, celebrities,

1465
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: biggest Will Smith is still like cognizant in line with

1466
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: like marketing and how they got the just water sitting right.

1467
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: There for sure, you know, yeah, like you know everything is.

1468
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: Don't think that everything behind him is just by circumstance

1469
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: on this is a complete business.

1470
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: Was you was crazy? I don't even think that. I

1471
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 4: think that Will is really hard on himself because he

1472
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 4: did it publicly. And Will is a people pleaser. He

1473
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 4: said that for a long time. Is that he's a

1474
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 4: people pleaser. He doesn't like when he disappoints, like his

1475
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 4: fans or anybody. He doesn't like disappointing people. But I

1476
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 4: don't think that Will's that sorry. I think Will sorry

1477
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 4: of where he did it. But I don't think that

1478
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: Will is sorry that he did it, and I think.

1479
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go the other way. I think I

1480
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: think Will Smith he regretted. I think he's sorry that

1481
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: he did that because where he did it for his

1482
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: I think that reasons. Not for Chris No, No, but

1483
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: I think a little bit of both. I think it's

1484
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: for his own for sure. But it's Chris Rock though,

1485
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: Like you slapped Chris right, you know how corny? That

1486
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: is Chris Rock, Like so, I know, I know he

1487
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: realized he fucked up. He slipped up like there and

1488
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: that was stupid. I shouldn't did that. I do believe

1489
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: that Will Smith is truly uh sorry about that, because again,

1490
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: this is Chris Rock. This is somebody who he has

1491
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: a history with. He even said him and Tony Rock,

1492
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: Chris's brother, they were real cool, real close. So he

1493
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Rock isn't a stranger. Chris Rock and

1494
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 1: Will Smith know each other. They've known each other for years.

1495
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: They've acted together.

1496
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 4: Like so, I mean, you know, Jada was like, don't

1497
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 4: bring me up in that ship. Make sure you tell

1498
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 4: them niggas that I ain't tell you to do that

1499
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 4: stupid shit.

1500
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't. I didn't even understand why people

1501
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: felt like she did. Anyway, that was yeah, like that

1502
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: was stupid. But then either way, I can't wait for

1503
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: these two to sit down and really like bury the

1504
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: ship and put it behind them. So can not at

1505
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: the Red Table. No, God, no, please don't do that

1506
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: at the Red Table. But they should definitely sit down

1507
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: and soon whenever Chris Rock is ready and done doing

1508
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: what he's doing and put the ship behind us.

1509
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: I don't think Chris is ever gonna sit with him.

1510
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: I really don't.

1511
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. They got Drake, man, they're there. They

1512
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: got Drake. One of you, one of you, star Chases

1513
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: gave it to him. All the star Chasers was in Toronto.

1514
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: Star Chasers were definitely all of y'all.

1515
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: Was in Toronto this past weekend. You use that caravana

1516
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: Soca soca, you know, winding down the road, and then

1517
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: y'all went to the boy's crib. Somebody coughed, God, damn it,

1518
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: we're sneezed or sneezed. One of y'all got them, So

1519
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 1: now they sucked up the whole.

1520
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 2: Or fucked I mean you know much. Wait, you don't

1521
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: you think it just didn't sell out, and that's.

1522
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: Why possib see what I'm saying, don't. I don't think

1523
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: for the take take the conspiracy scull off, because whenever

1524
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: you wear the skull.

1525
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 4: That's what I'm That's what I think. I'm saying that.

1526
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 4: That's what some people are saying.

1527
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: Because of the ticket sales. Everybody was beefing about all

1528
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: of the the reunion.

1529
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: I feel like that was the one people would buy ticket.

1530
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: That would sell itself. Nicky, Drake and Wayne is gonna

1531
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: sell it.

1532
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 4: They sold out.

1533
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they were. The other event, what was it,

1534
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: the Northern Stars, the Northern that look that look that

1535
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: that was like a different venue though, right, Yeah, but

1536
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: that should look like it was sold out, that should

1537
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: look packed out. So I'm only a listen. I don't

1538
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 1: I think that if Drake is saying he has cod

1539
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm not listen. I'm not mad at the thought of

1540
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: people thinking that Drake can't sell tickets. I think it's

1541
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: just funny when people think shit like that.

1542
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 4: Well, it's not about Drake, hen we all know Drake

1543
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 4: and cel tickets.

1544
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Drake, Wayne and Nikki together for the first

1545
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: time and how long I think that that sells out.

1546
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: That's just a guess. I could be wrong. I don't

1547
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: be outside like that. I don't know what I listening to.

1548
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: Somebody told me that they like the NIMS record now

1549
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: more in the club than they do like Rowdy, Rebels, computers.

1550
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought that that was crazy. The record bing Bong

1551
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: whatever the NIMS record is.

1552
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 2: Probably Yeah, I'm sorry, Drake, Wayne and NICKI are selling

1553
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: sixteen thousand tickets.

1554
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we don't even have to talk about that.

1555
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is. I really think that,

1556
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, one of those star chasers got to him,

1557
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: and you know.

1558
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking immediately tickets and if we were going

1559
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: to go down the conspiracy thing. I don't know if

1560
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: it was an internal young money, that's where my brain went,

1561
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: if it wasn't just strictly COVID, which it probably could

1562
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: just be COVID. Yeah, but we like to do conspiracy shit,

1563
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: and this is a podcast. Internal bullshit is what I

1564
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: can see. They've definitely the three of them have had

1565
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: their ups and downs individually with each other, but.

1566
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they were good now though. No, they

1567
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: got to see in Green record, phenomenal record. Yeah, I

1568
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: figured that was to let people know that, hey, well

1569
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: good now we've talked. You know, Drake and Wayne have

1570
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: still said yo, anybody Niki is on, it's on. You know,

1571
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: they let them know they still riding for nick and

1572
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: nobody can't come at her. So you know, I thought

1573
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: that that means that, yo, listen, everything is good. But again,

1574
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: this is a podcast conspiracy theories. Okay, cool, let's do it.

1575
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: I just feel like these three have publicly shown us

1576
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: that they all separately take things very personally. Nicki takes

1577
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: things personally, Drake takes things purposely, and Wayne, in his

1578
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: own way, takes things purposely. Not the same way Drake

1579
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: and Nicki do. But we've seen Wayne just take shit

1580
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: personally and be like god fuck that. I can see

1581
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: a one tiny thing causing a rift between the three

1582
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: of them, especially if if seeing Green was more of

1583
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: a business move and they hadn't really settled shit. But

1584
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: it's in a place where we could at least do

1585
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: this record and figure it out from there.

1586
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: Where is where's Wayne's legal shit at? As far as

1587
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: crossing the border, I'm pretty sure Drake could have pulled

1588
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,440
Speaker 1: some strings across but I mean, were just having conspiracies.

1589
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: Maybe Wayne couldn't cross for whatever reason. I don't know.

1590
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: I think Wayne is good. I don't think he has

1591
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: any restrictions on travel or anything like that. But again

1592
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: that Canadian border. But but Drake got too much pull.

1593
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: He can get Wayne. It's Canada with no problem.

1594
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean, have we seen I know, seeing Green happen after?

1595
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: But do we know where Nicky was with the whole

1596
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: Drake and Meek being fucking best friends again thing?

1597
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Nicki is tripping off for

1598
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 1: Drake and and and meet being cool. I don't think.

1599
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 3: She wouldn't have agreed to have I don't think.

1600
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think she cares about that

1601
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: type of ship. I think we care more about that

1602
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 1: type of shit.

1603
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: Than well, I don't care at all.

1604
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: Well I'm not you, but I'm just saying, like the fans,

1605
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we bring that ship up

1606
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: and talk about that ship more than Nicky probably would.

1607
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know either way. You know, if Drake

1608
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: is sick, you know, hopefully you know he gets over

1609
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: it soon and test negative and can get another date.

1610
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: It's just fucked up because so many people travel to

1611
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: Canada this weekend for the Who.

1612
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 2: Knows how Wayne felt about Drake being cool with me again,

1613
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 2: because we've seen Wayne go to bat for Nicky countless

1614
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: times Hot nine sevens that don't do that shit fuck him.

1615
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: Uh when Ross was trying to put Wayne and push

1616
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: your t on the same mayback ship, he said, fuck you,

1617
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: no way, take that ship off or I'm not doing it.

1618
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: He's he's roaded for his artists before, so I could see.

1619
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I could see Wayne feeling away more

1620
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: than Nicki for the Drake and Meek shit.

1621
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: No way, man, hell nah, I mean it's fun to

1622
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: have just I'm just I'm throwing that. I'm take that

1623
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: piece of paper throw.

1624
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: Probably called COVID.

1625
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: He got COVID.

1626
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: That's what makes has been running around here like a

1627
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: star chaserself. Yeah he has cod and he sit his

1628
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: ass down.

1629
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: He has COVID. But again, chriss Drake good Well soon

1630
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: set a new date for the show, because I'm pretty

1631
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: sure everybody is excited to see that. Maybe production some

1632
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: ship wasn't ready could be that too. You know, maybe

1633
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,480
Speaker 1: we're just shooting too high with the all other conspiracies.

1634
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: Maybe just productions him bringing out I always say her

1635
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: last name wrong stuff I'm saying wrong, sorry, Nell. Yeah, shows,

1636
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: I always feel like I'm saying it like a breakfast

1637
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 2: food or something back.

1638
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's.

1639
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: That's well. Ellie Fada came out. I thought that was ill.

1640
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was probably when.

1641
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: That was one of the that we did mention as

1642
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: far as like who would be coming out. I don't

1643
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: think we None of us.

1644
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: Mentioned one of the cooler pop ups at a concert,

1645
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: I think.

1646
01:15:54,720 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: And she still looks amazing for sure, looks great. Oh man,

1647
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: you know Rory, Sometimes in life things happen and.

1648
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 2: I never thought of it that way.

1649
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's interesting.

1650
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: It's just that the fact that you know our gut,

1651
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: neo man, you just put out an album trying to celebrate,

1652
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's it's funny, how you know,

1653
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: maybe you see these things coming name of his album

1654
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: is self Explanatory. Great records on there, one of my

1655
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: favorite projects so far this year. But now this situation

1656
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: that has come to our phones in the last forty

1657
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: eight hours, is this self explanatory or not?

1658
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: I think she went through his phone and he said

1659
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: pretty self explanatory.

1660
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: Well, for those of you that do not that do

1661
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: not know, Neo and his wife Crystal are now well.

1662
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: She said that they're separated. They're no longer together after

1663
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: eight years of being together. So she went to Twitter

1664
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: or she went to Instagram to update us on their

1665
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: marriage and their relationship. It says, and this is Crystal

1666
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: Crystal Smith. She says, eight years, eight years of lives

1667
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: and deception, eight years of unknowingly sharing my life and

1668
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: husband with numerous of women who sell their bodies to

1669
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: him unprotected. Fuck damn, every last one of them.

1670
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: What was she saying every last one of them was unprotected.

1671
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: Or did they sell it? I don't know. We don't know, Crystal,

1672
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 1: she's listen. This is a this is her dialogue. I

1673
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: don't know how she's with anguish.

1674
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: She's pretty expensive escorts. I feel like it's the unprotected

1675
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: ones and they probably don't care of themselves because.

1676
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: I hope that everyone's taking care of them every last

1677
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: if they're having unprotected sex. To say I'm heartbroken and

1678
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: disgusted as an understatement, to ask me to stay and

1679
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,480
Speaker 1: accept it is absolutely insane, the mentality of a narcissist.

1680
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: I will know no longer lie to the public or

1681
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: pretend that this is something it isn't. I choose me.

1682
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: I choose my happiness and health and my respect. I

1683
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: gained three beautiful children out of this, but nothing else

1684
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: but wasted years and heartache. I asked that you all

1685
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 1: please stop sending me videos or information of him cheating,

1686
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: because what he does is no longer my conser. Who

1687
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: has the videos of Neo cheating?

1688
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 2: I'm sure a bunch of people, Oh.

1689
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: God, damn it, put the cameras down, because what he

1690
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: does is no longer my concern. I am not a victim.

1691
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to stay told with my head hell high.

1692
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: If someone can't love you the way you deserve, then

1693
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: it's up to you to love yourself with no hate

1694
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: in my heart. I wish him nothing but the best,

1695
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: and may he die and riden health.

1696
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: I was about to say say all that, then I

1697
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: wish nothing.

1698
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: It was pure venom coming from these words.

1699
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: Like I was feeling her the whole way. They're like, ya,

1700
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: I get it. That sucks.

1701
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: You don't say this publicly you.

1702
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: Probably shouldn't have to do, But then just don't say

1703
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 2: I wish him nothing but the best.

1704
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: You wish You don't wish Neo nothing but mission.

1705
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: You wish him those heartache album and page you.

1706
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: Wish him a flop of an album.

1707
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: You're happy he didn't see him the writing credits of

1708
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,480
Speaker 2: the Beyond the album.

1709
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean falls off and the Neo responded correct,

1710
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: I like by liking the post first. Well, yeah, he

1711
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: had like that, which is.

1712
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: Funny, which I guess could be fall under narcissistic.

1713
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: That's that's definitely narcissistic behavior. Uh, Neo says, for the

1714
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: sake of our children, my family and I will work

1715
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: through our challenges behind closed doors. Personal matters are not

1716
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: meant to be addressed and dissecond in public forms. I

1717
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: simply asked that you please respect me and my family's

1718
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 1: privacy at this time, which is all in quotation marks, which.

1719
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: Is also hilarious that you're asking the Internet, after you

1720
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: put this business out there, to please respect privacy.

1721
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: People know when it's going to do that, but you

1722
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: only want privacy when it's shipped that you know you

1723
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: fucked up. Of course, like, can y'all just respect my

1724
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 1: privacy at this time?

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01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 3: Nah?

1726
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: Fan, we want to know why you was in the club.

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01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: First. Matters are not meant to be addressed in discussed

1728
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 2: right yeah. Right after this tweet, he posted a video

1729
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: of one of his records, saying, don't love me so

1730
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: all right, so it was addressed in your personal matters

1731
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: were addressed in your music.

1732
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely listen, Neil, you know it's it's fucked up. Neo's

1733
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: our guy, that's family. You know, it's just fucked up

1734
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: that he has to deal with this and go through this.

1735
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, if he's cheating, it's fucked up. He

1736
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: fucked up.

1737
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 4: If you know what you said, it's fucked up that

1738
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 4: he has to go through this.

1739
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, well, his ship is being played out in public,

1740
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: like his his infidelities and all of that. It's like,

1741
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: it's fucked up that he has to go through that. Yeah,

1742
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: he if he cheated, he's wrong. He cheated. He's a

1743
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: married man. Yeah, he's wrong for that. I'm not saying

1744
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: he's not wrong. But it's fucked up that it's being

1745
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: that that we all know about it. That's the fuck

1746
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: up part, Like it.

1747
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: Is, why should the cheater be outed? That's probably a

1748
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 3: better question.

1749
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you run that. You can't be

1750
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: mad if you're outed. If you're cheating. If you're a

1751
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: married man, you have kids and you're out here cheating

1752
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: and she decides to end your public fait year. So

1753
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and your wife decides to let everybody know

1754
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: you're a Cheatah, that's part of it. You gotta do

1755
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: with it.

1756
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 2: Do you want my therapy response to that? She probably

1757
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 2: feels she's now it's had no control in her eight

1758
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: years that she was in a relationship, and now this

1759
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: statement is the first step in trying to take control

1760
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: and make a decision on her own.

1761
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 1: And not only that women women women would because she's

1762
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: embarrassed and she's hurt, she's going to try to embarrass you.

1763
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is something. Now it's her decision, and

1764
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: she probably feels like she hasn't had any decision making

1765
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: abilities within their relationship because everything was one lie. So

1766
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: this is just a state. Even if it's wrong. I

1767
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: can't say I don't understand when people get super hurt,

1768
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: they feel like this is going to make them feel better.

1769
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: We know it won't. Yeah, but the mind of someone

1770
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,520
Speaker 2: super hurt that's been lied to and they feel publicly embarrassed.

1771
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: Mind you.

1772
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: I have not paid attention to any of Neil's marriages

1773
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: or relationship ships or anything. But who knows what her

1774
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: dms look like. Maybe she feels like she was embarrassed publicly.

1775
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: I didn't even know.

1776
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because you're saying people are sending her videos

1777
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so you know, which means that

1778
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: people are like, yo, you stupid for being with him

1779
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: and this is who he's out with right now while

1780
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: you're at home and d D you know that ship.

1781
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fucked up, but you know, we know

1782
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: what happens. This isn't the first time that we've seen this.

1783
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: It's not going to be the last. You know. It's

1784
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: just again, it's just it's unfortunate because like, damn, now

1785
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: you got to live with this ship and it's just hard, man.

1786
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: Because I trusted Neo with the for Doors.

1787
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: It's a it's a very trustworthy out like when you.

1788
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: Put the for Doro on. There's just so much trust

1789
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: that you know, you should you should walk and just

1790
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:43,839
Speaker 1: carry with yourself.

1791
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 4: I don't trust nobody wear.

1792
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know what something that had right.

1793
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: A lot of tricks, a lot of tricks independent.

1794
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 4: But they've been on They've been on NIO's ass before

1795
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 4: with this whole thing because his last wife it was

1796
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 4: a big thing. He told his last wife to get

1797
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 4: her tubes tied or burned or whatever. And then when

1798
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 4: because he didn't want any more kids, you can do that,

1799
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 4: burn your yes you can, yes, you can get your

1800
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: top your tubes tied. They can be untied, or you

1801
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 4: can get them burned so that there there's no fixing

1802
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 4: that like double.

1803
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 3: Knot back, don't burn them. Yeah, yeah, that's so fine.

1804
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 4: Final final, So he yeah, he they like the sailors.

1805
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 4: Not allegedly he told his wife to do that, or

1806
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 4: I think she came out and said that he told

1807
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 4: her to do that because he didn't want the square knots.

1808
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 4: And then he went and got remarried and had kids

1809
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 4: with wife.

1810
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: Y'all the marriage, I promise you, none of us.

1811
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 4: Give cut it out.

1812
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 1: I don't I give up the marriage.

1813
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 5: Got the whole breakdown on the former wife, the current wife.

1814
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 5: We don't give Neo, you got caught cheating, God damn it.

1815
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 5: Put white people put that ship out there. Yeah, Neil,

1816
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna laugh at y'all. Love you, but I'm gonna laugh.

1817
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: Nigga, you got caught. It is what it is.

1818
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: They put their tubes in a bowl and knot didn't work.

1819
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't work. It didn't work, but yeah, it is

1820
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: what it is. Rest in peace. Bill Russell legend, one

1821
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: of the biggest, most iconic athletes of his time, not

1822
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: just for you know what he did athletically, everything he

1823
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: stood for civil rights. You know, Bill Russell was arguably

1824
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: the greatest champion ever, greatest winner ever. And Bill Russell

1825
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:33,440
Speaker 1: passed away at eighty eight, Yes, eighty eight years old, long, healthy, productive,

1826
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: even you know you've seen him at the last was

1827
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: it last playoffs? He was at a couple of games.

1828
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: I believe he was still moving and you know, still

1829
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: had his had his bearings with him and everything like that.

1830
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: So it was sad to hear about his his his passion.

1831
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: Over the weekend, you know, I was trying to find

1832
01:24:54,200 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: eleven championships to his player coach, All American Olympian.

1833
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: Got a medal with freedom.

1834
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, just you know, I think anyone's won as much

1835
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: and he just he just won. He won in the

1836
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: game of life is what he did. Bill Russell is

1837
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: one of the biggest figures in sports, if not the

1838
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: biggest figure in sports history. So rest in peace. Bill Russell.

1839
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: Prayers and candolences to his family, Prayers and condolences to Celtics,

1840
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: Celtic Nation, the Celtic organization. He is the Celtics organization.

1841
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, but he lived, he lived a productive

1842
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,799
Speaker 1: full eighty eight years.

1843
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what a life. Yeah, man, Rest in peace.

1844
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,440
Speaker 2: I think I think that's good for today.

1845
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: Tickets on sale are our tickets are available for our

1846
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: live shows. We're hitting the road, coming to a few cities,

1847
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: coming to see a few of the people. I don't

1848
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna be doing meet and greets. We'll

1849
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: be honest, this monkey pox thing is UH is ramping up,

1850
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: which we're gonna figure out.

1851
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 2: And obviously if we don't end up doing the meet

1852
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: and greets, all will be sending you know, we'll send

1853
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: your money back.

1854
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I'm just being give you a lot

1855
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: of y'all in nasty, A lot of y'all. Don't wash

1856
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: your hands, a lot of y'all don't wash your ass.

1857
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 3: Can you tell people where your guys are gonna beat uh?

1858
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: Sep September Sunday, September eighteenth, We're at Thalia Hall in Chicago.

1859
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: September twenty third, We're at Howard Theater like Howard the

1860
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: Washington d Washington, d C. October second, we're at the

1861
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: Underground in Charlotte, North Carolina. Then November fifth, we're going

1862
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: across the water. We're going to London. It's the Pond

1863
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: to the Earth at Earth Theater. November thirteenth will be

1864
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: in Atlanta at Center Stage.

1865
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: We changed that day because we are not competing with

1866
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: the one music fist, Miss Lauren Hill.

1867
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: Yeah no, we're not with a little baby.

1868
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 4: Oh that's what we changed.

1869
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we were self aware.

1870
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: We're not gonna try to sell tickets when Lauren Hills

1871
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: in town, Like, who's doing that? Nineteenth Dallas, Texas south

1872
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: Side Music Hall. Hey, November twenty of Houston, Texas, Houston Improv.

1873
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Ma's gonna be in proving that night.

1874
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: I know you are, I know, shut up. December ninth

1875
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: when Seattle, Washington, Neptune Theater, the Marriage just want to

1876
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: shake ass. December eleventh pauland Oregon the Alattin Theater. And

1877
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 1: December eighteenth, Boston, Massachusetts at the Wilbur.

1878
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 4: And you guys know we have LA and New York

1879
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 4: shows coming.

1880
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: Yes, just trying to please for l A and New York,

1881
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: LA and New York will be on the added on

1882
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: the dates as well.

1883
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 2: Was at my local right aid over the weekend, purchasing

1884
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: some things and have my headphones in and you know what,

1885
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: you can tell someone's talking to you. I'm checking out

1886
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: the guy. Where's the New York show? It's like, yeah,

1887
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: we're working on it, bro.

1888
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1889
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're working on a where's the condoms?

1890
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 3: You know? Rory?

1891
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't use so yeah, get your tickets now

1892
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: available now at new Rory in mall dot com, New

1893
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: Rory in mall dot com. That's what you want me

1894
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: to do? Man, it's guys, listen, what are your plans

1895
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: for the week. I don't even give a fuck. I'll

1896
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: do whatever. The fuck you doing whatever.

1897
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna be seeing each other, damn it, every day

1898
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: this week.

1899
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: Shooting a lot of ship uh sign up? Sign up

1900
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: to our patreon if you haven't. M h another episode

1901
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: of p r L coming this week.

1902
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:31,440
Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah man, and more and more and.

1903
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: More. Listen, man, are we done?

1904
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm sitting back hit everything.

1905
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: You satisfied.

1906
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 3: She's never satisfied.

1907
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 4: She's never I'm never satisfied. But it'll do.

1908
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, Okay bye.

1909
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Yeah, y'all have

1910
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: a good week. Be safe. We'll talk to y'all soon.

1911
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Speaker 1: Pete