WEBVTT - Tech News: Is TikTok's Clock Running Down in the US?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio and how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>are you? So before I talk about the news for Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>March seven, twenty twenty three, I want to give y'all

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. So make sure you tune in tomorrow to

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<v Speaker 1>get that special episode, and I'll be back on the

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<v Speaker 1>following Thursday. But now let's get to the news for today.

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<v Speaker 1>And first up, for a change, I really just have

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<v Speaker 1>one story explicitly about AI today, and it's about Microsoft's

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<v Speaker 1>incorporation of AI. This one was developed by open Ai

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<v Speaker 1>and it has to do with Microsoft's products for enterprises

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<v Speaker 1>for businesses. All right, So, first off, Microsoft had previously

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<v Speaker 1>invested a billion dollars in open ai and more recently,

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<v Speaker 1>the two organizations I've entered into a type of partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>Though details are scarce as to the extent of that partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>some folks estimate that the agreement has Microsoft investing ten

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars with open AI over the next several years. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Microsoft has unveiled how it is integrating AI

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<v Speaker 1>into suits like power Platform, which is a platform with

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<v Speaker 1>tools for developers that kind of stuff, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>Dynamics three sixty five, which is used for enterprise resource planning. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, these aren't not consumer facing products. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't happen to work in these fields, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>never really encounter them. They are meant to be tools

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<v Speaker 1>that businesses can use to optimize processes and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>the idea is that the AI will assist companies and

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<v Speaker 1>employees to do jobs, particularly those that are highly repetitive.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, Microsoft's pitch is that this AI augments

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<v Speaker 1>what you're already doing, and thus the name they picked

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<v Speaker 1>copilot really makes sense. These tools are not intended to

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<v Speaker 1>replace decision makers. Instead, it's supposed to make their jobs

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<v Speaker 1>easier and less repetitive. And side note my own personal

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<v Speaker 1>opinion is. I think Tesla could probably take notes on

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<v Speaker 1>how Microsoft's naming approach went this way, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Copilot is a much more responsible naming convention than say,

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<v Speaker 1>full self driving, when the actual technology is not full

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<v Speaker 1>self drive. Anyway, that being said, I haven't personally had

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<v Speaker 1>any experience using Copilot. It's really for stuff that's outside

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<v Speaker 1>my job duties, so I can't actually comment on the

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<v Speaker 1>quality of the tools performance, but supposed to do things

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<v Speaker 1>like help marketing departments identify new customers. For example, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you've got a product or a service. Then you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing pretty well, but you're leaving money on the table

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<v Speaker 1>because you haven't identified people who would be really good customers.

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<v Speaker 1>You you never reached out to them because you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>aware of them or whatever. This tool is meant to

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<v Speaker 1>help people identify those potential customers and then craft communications

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<v Speaker 1>that are likely to resonate with them. That sort of thing. Further,

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<v Speaker 1>when building, say a message to potential customers, Copilot will

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<v Speaker 1>clearly label all the pieces of that communication that had

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<v Speaker 1>been crafted by AI, which will give real human beings

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<v Speaker 1>in whatever organization we're talking about a chance to review

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<v Speaker 1>these communications to make sure that everything's accurate and appropriate,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it doesn't end up just being a

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<v Speaker 1>message that says that, you know, robots should kill all

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<v Speaker 1>humans or something. Last week, I talked about how there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bill in the US House of Representatives that could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially call for the ban of TikTok. Well, the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the other branch of the US Congress, plans

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<v Speaker 1>to unveil a similar bill today. In both cases, the

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<v Speaker 1>aim really does go beyond TikTok. I mean, obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>app is a big reason for these proposals in both cases,

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<v Speaker 1>but in neither case is it exclusively the target. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate version is said to give the President of

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<v Speaker 1>the US the authority to restrict technology from foreign countries

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<v Speaker 1>if it's reasonable to suspect that those companies might be

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<v Speaker 1>using the tech to compromise the US's national security. And y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>this does get super tricky. I talked last week about

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<v Speaker 1>how the ACLU claims that banning TikTok would amount to

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<v Speaker 1>violating the First Amendment, which is the right to free speech,

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<v Speaker 1>and I honestly don't know about that one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. There's no doubt that as technology gets more advanced,

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<v Speaker 1>and starts to lean heavier on stuff like cloud computing

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<v Speaker 1>and has the potential to serve as a data gathering system.

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<v Speaker 1>We should be concerned, In fact, we should already be

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about this, because it's already happening all around us,

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<v Speaker 1>whether we're talking about companies that are foreign or domestic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is happening. That's what's going on with Meta,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what's going on with Google. Pretty much any big

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<v Speaker 1>tech company is doing this. But here, obviously, the concern

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<v Speaker 1>is tech companies that are ultimately located outside the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>From a national security perspective, I can understand that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a fear that foreign companies could potentially pose a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already seen similar movements the US against foreign companies. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the US banned telecom companies from using tech

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<v Speaker 1>from the Chinese company Huawei out of concern that that

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<v Speaker 1>could be used as a massive surveillance system. So Huawei

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<v Speaker 1>makes all sorts of networking equipment, among other things, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fear was that if telecom companies were integrating Huawei

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<v Speaker 1>systems within their infrastructure, that it could turn the telecommunications

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<v Speaker 1>industry in the United States into a giant espionage service

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<v Speaker 1>for the Chinese government. That was the fear. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we in the United States would much rather the NSA

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<v Speaker 1>do all the spying on communications within our country. Now

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<v Speaker 1>keep an American anyway. I haven't seen the proposed bill

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<v Speaker 1>yet because it wasn't released while I was writing this.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time you hear it, it may have already

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<v Speaker 1>been released. I will say that according to reports, it

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<v Speaker 1>does have bipartisan support, and we've seen other parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, like the EU, to a stronger stance against

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<v Speaker 1>letting information flow out of a region to foreign countries

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<v Speaker 1>without restriction. Right. The EU guards citizen data very carefully

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<v Speaker 1>and is quick to jump on companies that don't follow

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<v Speaker 1>the regulations within the EU, and I have long said

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States kind of fell behind on this.

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<v Speaker 1>So in some ways, I think this is correcting a

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<v Speaker 1>problem that has been around for ages. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at China, it actually takes this whole

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<v Speaker 1>concept to an extreme right. It doesn't just limit what

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<v Speaker 1>goes out, it limits what comes in. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>limits what citizens are able to access. And see you

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<v Speaker 1>can't even access lots of different Western based tools within China.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's clearly a spectrum here between letting everything go

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<v Speaker 1>flow in and flow out, everyone access everything and let

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<v Speaker 1>everything access us, and then the extreme of China, where

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<v Speaker 1>you take really authoritative control over what can be seen

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<v Speaker 1>and accessed. And I don't think either extreme is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to find someplace in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>where things work out properly. And I honestly don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where this Senate bill is going to fall along that spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had chance to read it yet, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure i'll talk about this later on this week once

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<v Speaker 1>we have more information, and I definitely want to see

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<v Speaker 1>moves that will protect citizens without escalating into an issue

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<v Speaker 1>where the United States just becomes even more isolationist and

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<v Speaker 1>insular than we already are. Okay, do you remember Cambridge

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<v Speaker 1>Analytica and that scandal, So essentially a political marketing company

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<v Speaker 1>was using data that had been collected by an app developer,

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<v Speaker 1>a Facebook app developer who had crafted a survey app

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<v Speaker 1>for Facebook. Now, back in the days when this app

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<v Speaker 1>was created, Facebook's API was not particularly careful about the

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of information and app could gather, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>possible to design an app to scoop up all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of data even if that information had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with whatever the app was doing. In the Cambridge Analytica case,

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<v Speaker 1>this included getting a look at folks who hadn't even

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<v Speaker 1>used the app themselves. And here's how it would work.

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<v Speaker 1>Person A decides that they want to install this app

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<v Speaker 1>and take the survey, partly because it's a paid survey,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have an incentive, a monetary incentive to participate.

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<v Speaker 1>So they install the app on Facebook and they take

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<v Speaker 1>the survey. Now, persons B through Z, who happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be friends with person A, they don't download the app.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't install the app and take the survey. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the app gets access to person A's views as if

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<v Speaker 1>it were person a. So in other words, it can

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<v Speaker 1>actually look at all the profiles of all the friends

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<v Speaker 1>that person A has as if it were person A.

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<v Speaker 1>So it can collect all this information on persons B

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<v Speaker 1>through Z, even though none of them consented to have

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<v Speaker 1>their data shared. They didn't have a say in this. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now Australia, nearly a decade after all this happened, is

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a case about this. The High Court is going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear a case that claims that as many as

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred thousand people in Australia had their data harvested

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to just fifty three people using the quids. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, fifty three people use this app and in

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<v Speaker 1>the process, around three hundred thousand people have their information

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<v Speaker 1>exposed and gathered by the app developer. And further, the

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<v Speaker 1>case claims that Facebook should be held accountable for allowing

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<v Speaker 1>this data harvest to happen. Now, since this incident that

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<v Speaker 1>happened nearly a decade ago, Facebook has subsequently beefed up

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<v Speaker 1>its restrictions. Further, the company is challenging the validity of

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<v Speaker 1>the case brought against it because at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the incident, Facebook says it didn't have any commercial business

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<v Speaker 1>set up in Australia, no staff, no offices, no real

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<v Speaker 1>means of generating revenue within the country, nothing, and that

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<v Speaker 1>as such, the law that concerns this whole case, the

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<v Speaker 1>law that Facebook has been alleged to have broken, would

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<v Speaker 1>not apply because it has a prerequisite that the company

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<v Speaker 1>that carried out that broke the law rather carried out

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<v Speaker 1>business within Australia. So Facebook is saying, we didn't carry

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<v Speaker 1>out business in Australia, we didn't have any offices here,

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<v Speaker 1>we offered our platform here, but we weren't generating revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no business being done. Now, there have been

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<v Speaker 1>lower courts that have disagreed with that conclusion, but Facebook's

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<v Speaker 1>pushing it as part of their defense. Now, if it

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<v Speaker 1>loses the case, the company faces a two point two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars fine, which for Facebook that's not that much.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if the High Court ultimately rejects Facebook's arguments

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<v Speaker 1>and finds the company guilty, Facebook is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be taking a massive hit when it's compared to its

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<v Speaker 1>overall revenue. And speaking of Facebook slash Meta, numerous outlets

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<v Speaker 1>like Bloomberg have reported that more layoffs are imminent at

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<v Speaker 1>the company. So if you remember Meta downsized by thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>percent late last year and actual numbers of employees, that's

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<v Speaker 1>around eleven thousand people who lost their jobs. According to Bloomberg,

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<v Speaker 1>that initial round of layoffs was really related to a

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<v Speaker 1>reorganization effort, which largely included cutting entire teams and also

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<v Speaker 1>managerial levels. The idea being that they wanted to flatten

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<v Speaker 1>out the hierarchy, so they didn't want to have as

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<v Speaker 1>many vertical levels between entry level employees and top brass.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was like a middle management clearinghouse kind of situation. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg says that the upcoming layoffs will be more about

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<v Speaker 1>financial results than a reorganization, So it's possible we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>departments that are not heavily associated with revenue affected the most.

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<v Speaker 1>But time will tell a lot of people think that

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to unfold within the week or early

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<v Speaker 1>next week, so we'll just have to keep an eye out.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we've got more news to cover, but first

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. We're back. UDN reports that

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<v Speaker 1>Intel has finalized its design of two nanometer and one

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<v Speaker 1>point eight nanimeter fabrication processes. Remember a nanometer is a

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<v Speaker 1>billion of a meter. However, when you hear these numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>it does not actually mean that Intel is about to

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<v Speaker 1>churn out chips that have components that measure two nanometers

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<v Speaker 1>or one point eight nanometers in size. It's actually just

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<v Speaker 1>a naming convention at this point. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers actually did refer to the size of the

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<v Speaker 1>individual components on a chip, but we abandoned that several

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<v Speaker 1>generations back. We kept the naming convention, which is odd

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a naming convention where the numbers keep going down,

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<v Speaker 1>but those numbers don't actually refer to the size of

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<v Speaker 1>anything on the chip anymore. Also, I should mention that

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<v Speaker 1>these processes have been designed but not actually built out.

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, Intel has come out up with

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<v Speaker 1>the approach they're going to take, but they haven't actually

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<v Speaker 1>created the manufacturing process itself. So we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get chips right away that have these new features on them.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're wondering why we don't go smaller anymore, really,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes down to it, I mean, some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>does get shrunk from generation to generation, but not as

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<v Speaker 1>much as what the Naming Convention would have you think.

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<v Speaker 1>And the big reason for that comes down to quantum physics.

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<v Speaker 1>If you make components small enough, then quantum mechanics come

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<v Speaker 1>into play and electrons will decide to do whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>heck they want to do instead of following these careful

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<v Speaker 1>pathways you built for them with your transistors and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's being a little flippant, but it's also true anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Intel is introducing a lot of stuff all at once

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<v Speaker 1>with the one point eight nanimeter fabrication process, also known

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<v Speaker 1>as the eighteen A process. The A stands for Angstrom

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you have to go down from the

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<v Speaker 1>nanoscale to the Angstrom scale. Intel has a new transistor

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<v Speaker 1>design with this eighteen A approach. It is shrinking some

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<v Speaker 1>components so some things are getting smaller, and also has

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<v Speaker 1>added backside power delivery. And as Tom's Hardware point out,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of stuff that has been incorporated into

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<v Speaker 1>this new design. It's a bold and potentially risky approach.

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<v Speaker 1>So typically what Intel does is follow a pretty standard

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<v Speaker 1>tick talk pattern, which means it comes up with a

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<v Speaker 1>new design for chip architecture, and then it builds a

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<v Speaker 1>chip based on that design. Then in the next generation

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<v Speaker 1>it optimizes that design, and then after optimizing the previous design,

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<v Speaker 1>Intel goes and makes another new design. So it goes

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<v Speaker 1>talk tick talk, So new architecture optimization, new architecture optimization.

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<v Speaker 1>Once upon a time, the architecture really did refer more

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<v Speaker 1>to shrinking things down, Like you would design an architecture

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next generation you would shrink it down.

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<v Speaker 1>The next generation you would build a new architecture based

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<v Speaker 1>on that new size you had reached, then you would

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<v Speaker 1>shrink it down. That kind of thing. We're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that at this point anyway, we're not likely to

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<v Speaker 1>see any chips based off this new process for at

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<v Speaker 1>least a year. Intel hopes to have it in place

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<v Speaker 1>by early twenty twenty four. Earlier on in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about how Huawei has come under suspicion by

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<v Speaker 1>the US government, which then pushed telecom companies to ditch

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<v Speaker 1>Huawei equipment in their networks. Well, in another Huawei related story,

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<v Speaker 1>the company recently participated as an exhibitor at the Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>World Congress event in Spain, and visitors to Huawei's booth

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<v Speaker 1>were given personal security badges. They had to wear them

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<v Speaker 1>while they were in the booth, and they were meant

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<v Speaker 1>to hand the badges back when they were ready to

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<v Speaker 1>leave the booth. Only some folks forgot to hand the

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<v Speaker 1>badges back and they ultimately walked off with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>then some of them just left their badges lying around,

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course people got a little curious and

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<v Speaker 1>they took the badge which was on a lanyard, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those extending lanyards where you got the little plastic

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<v Speaker 1>clip that has the spool in site it so you

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<v Speaker 1>can extend and retract your badge. Well, someone found out

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<v Speaker 1>that inside that plastic clip, there was a tiny circuit board,

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<v Speaker 1>like they popped the clip open, and besides the spool

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<v Speaker 1>for the lanyard there was a chip, And so folks

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<v Speaker 1>started to speculate what this circuitry could be. Was Whahwei

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<v Speaker 1>trying to track people? So the company said, essentially yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because those badges were meant to track where people were

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<v Speaker 1>going within the booth and how much time they were

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<v Speaker 1>spending at specific parts of the booth, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This in turn would inform Huawei about what people were

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<v Speaker 1>most interested in. Folks were expected to hand over the

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<v Speaker 1>badges after the end of their visit, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like Huawei was trying to bug someone and track all

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<v Speaker 1>their movements throughout all of Mobile World Congress. They were

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<v Speaker 1>just really, according to what they're saying, interested in what

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<v Speaker 1>people were doing when they were actually visiting Huawei's booth.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's concerned that individual badges could be connected to

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<v Speaker 1>specific people, like if they were personalized. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they were personalized because the report I read it

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<v Speaker 1>and go into detail, but if they were, then there's

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<v Speaker 1>some concern about that data being linked to a specific individual.

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<v Speaker 1>But huawehas said that they're following their privacy policy, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to protect that information. That that's not really what

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<v Speaker 1>they're really focused on. They're looking at what parts of

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<v Speaker 1>their booth design were effective and what wasn't. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>get the feeling this is a story that's more innocent

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<v Speaker 1>than malicious. I didn't see anything to indicate that the

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<v Speaker 1>circuitry could really do anything sinister. It looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a passive RFID and Bluetooth system, so something that when

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<v Speaker 1>it passes within range of an emitter can reflect back

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<v Speaker 1>a response which just gives the system information of where

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<v Speaker 1>someone is and how long they are there. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like it was capable of doing more than that

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<v Speaker 1>to me, but that was at a casual glance based

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<v Speaker 1>upon some photographs, and I just think that this one

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<v Speaker 1>is probably not that big of a deal. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Huawei is pretty much telling the truth here. However,

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<v Speaker 1>it does really illustrate how Huawei has a reputation associated

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Whether that reputation is fair or not is

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<v Speaker 1>up for debate, but I think it shows that there's

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of cloud of suspicion that's associated with the company.

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<v Speaker 1>In a new segment that I'd like to call y'all

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<v Speaker 1>got to read this. I want to give a shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Wired. Wired published a piece that's titled Inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Suspicion Machine, and it's about governments using systems that

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<v Speaker 1>reduce people to data points for the purposes of making

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<v Speaker 1>really important decisions regarding those people. It opens talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a welfare system in Europe and how such an algorithmic

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<v Speaker 1>approach can be used by administrators of these systems to

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<v Speaker 1>determine who is taking advantage of the system. As Wired

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<v Speaker 1>points out, they said, it's not like it's being used

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<v Speaker 1>to determine how much welfare a person requires, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>how likely is it that this person is abusing the system,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's taking an accusatory stance out of the gate. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this reminds me a lot about a story we covered

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<v Speaker 1>recently about how a lot of HR leaders expect that

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<v Speaker 1>they will at least partly be relying on AI and

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<v Speaker 1>algorithms when it comes to making layoff decisions. So to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you kind of have to reduce people into

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<v Speaker 1>a collection of data points so that an algorithmic system

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<v Speaker 1>can actually make decisions, and compare this set of numbers

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<v Speaker 1>against this set of numbers. But there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of dangers with this approach, including bias potentially leading to

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<v Speaker 1>specific populations of people being disproportionately targeted and affected by

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of decisions. Now, the piece on Wired is extensive,

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<v Speaker 1>it is thorough, it is a great read. So I

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<v Speaker 1>recommend go check out the piece again. It's on Wired.

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<v Speaker 1>It's titled Inside the Suspicion Machine. Also, just for the

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<v Speaker 1>interest of full disclosure, I do not know any of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who contributed to that article. I do not

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<v Speaker 1>have any connection with Wired other than being a subscriber.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just my recommendation as someone who reads a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about tech. You know, in the early days of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>when everyone was scrambling to find ways to work in

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<v Speaker 1>a suddenly decentralized remote approach, conference tools like Zoom really

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<v Speaker 1>took off, followed closely by people determined to disrupt work

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<v Speaker 1>being done through these tools. Well, we haven't emerged from

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<v Speaker 1>the disruption stage yet because recently a meeting that was

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<v Speaker 1>being held by the US Federal Reserve had to be

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<v Speaker 1>canceled in process due to a stream hijacker who blasted

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<v Speaker 1>pornographic content to the attendees of the Zoom meeting, which

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<v Speaker 1>was like a couple hundred people. I think now you

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<v Speaker 1>might remember there were similar stories from just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago about people who found that they could

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<v Speaker 1>access corporate meetings that failed to protect their links, and

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<v Speaker 1>also that didn't use any kind of password protection. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a rapid adoption throughout the industry of things like

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<v Speaker 1>protected links and passwords after that kind of happened because

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<v Speaker 1>it was easy to do. It was pretty easy to

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<v Speaker 1>find links that were being shared publicly, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>intended to be public meetings, and then people would just

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<v Speaker 1>crash them. So this is kind of similar to that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Federal Reserves Brent Jarks issued an apology for the

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<v Speaker 1>incident and committed to finding out how the hijack happened

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<v Speaker 1>and how to prevent it from happening again. Okay, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple more news stories, but before I get

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<v Speaker 1>to those, let's take another quick break. We're back. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Engadget has a piece about Honda's newest robot, which, unlike

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<v Speaker 1>the Tesla Optimus robot, and unlike Honda's own retired Asimo robot,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't humanoid. It's not built to look like a human.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have legs and arms, no, Instead, Honda's robot

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<v Speaker 1>is actually the third generation of its autonomous work vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>or a w V design, So it's a type of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of self guided electric wagon. It's meant to carry

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<v Speaker 1>payloads and has a large enough surface flat surface that

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<v Speaker 1>can carry two pallets worth of payload, and it can

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<v Speaker 1>support up to two thousand pounds per go. It has

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<v Speaker 1>a top speed of around ten miles per hour. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually fairly darned zippy for something like this, and it

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly can go for twenty eight miles before needing a recharge.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's under a full load. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be less time under a full load. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is not the first automous work vehicle, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually the third generation, and Honda says it is

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<v Speaker 1>capable of working either by remote control, so you could

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<v Speaker 1>have someone actually steering this remotely, or it can operate

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<v Speaker 1>completely autonomously. Honda anticipates that the AWV will have utility

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<v Speaker 1>in environments like warehouses and construction sites and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. That it's designed to also be able to

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<v Speaker 1>travel over rough terrain, so a construction site would be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So Honda now is looking to form strategic partnerships with

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<v Speaker 1>construction companies to kind of test the AWV in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world, Like, let's actually put this thing on real

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<v Speaker 1>construction sites and see if it ends up being a

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<v Speaker 1>useful tool. I think that this is actually a great

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<v Speaker 1>example of a robot the engineer build to perform a

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<v Speaker 1>specific function with a form that supports that function. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this earlier when we chatted about the Optimus

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<v Speaker 1>robot a few episodes ago. Where building a humanoid robot

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<v Speaker 1>is cool, like it's neat to see humanoid robots, no

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>doubt about it. They are fascinating, they are incredibly complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>It's impressive work, but it's not always or not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>the best tool for the job. Sometimes it's better to

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<v Speaker 1>design a robot that is engineered to tackle a specific

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<v Speaker 1>task as efficiently as possible, which may not have anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the human form, and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>great results. If you try to create a humanoid robot

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<v Speaker 1>that can do anything, often it doesn't do anything very well,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it can do lots of different stuff, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily performing at the top level. Whereas if you

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<v Speaker 1>build specific purpose built robots to do a small group

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<v Speaker 1>of tasks, you can get much better results. Typically, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just at that stage, like humanoid robots are really complicated

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<v Speaker 1>and difficult to pull off. So I think Honda's approach

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<v Speaker 1>makes way more sense than companies like Tesla that are

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<v Speaker 1>pushing this humanoid approach, at least in the near term.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe in the future we'll get to a point where

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<v Speaker 1>building a humanoid robot that's really good at everything will

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<v Speaker 1>be a relatively trivial task. But right now, just making

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<v Speaker 1>them walk or be able to open a door and

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<v Speaker 1>walk through without falling over is harder than it sounds. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Japan's H three rocket didn't do so well this week

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<v Speaker 1>in its first test flight. So this is a new

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<v Speaker 1>launch vehicle that Japan's government has developed to put payloads

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<v Speaker 1>into orbit. Competitions getting really tight when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>putting satellites up into space. So during its first launch,

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<v Speaker 1>the second stage of the vehicle failed to ignite, so

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<v Speaker 1>the administrators of Japan's space program gave the order to

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle for it to self destruct. The vehicle did

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<v Speaker 1>self destruct. It came crashing down the ocean off the

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<v Speaker 1>coast of the Philippines, and Japan says there are no

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<v Speaker 1>reports of any injuries or damage caused by the wreckage

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<v Speaker 1>falling to Earth. But what it was meant to do

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<v Speaker 1>was to put a satellite called the Advanced Land Observing

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<v Speaker 1>Satellite three into orbit, and this satellite's purpose was to

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<v Speaker 1>monitor conditions on the ground to help the government coordinate

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<v Speaker 1>efforts in the wake of a disaster. And it also

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<v Speaker 1>carried some other tools for the defense ministry that would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to detect ballistic missile launches. And that makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense because if you know about Japan

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<v Speaker 1>and North Korea, you know that North Korea will occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>hold test launches and fire missiles into the Sea of Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>So having a system that detects those sorts of things

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<v Speaker 1>totally makes sense. But all of that obviously was lost

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<v Speaker 1>because the vehicle failed to attain orbit and had to

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<v Speaker 1>be put into self destruct mode. Numerous administrators in Japan's

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<v Speaker 1>space agency have expressed regret over the failure and apologies

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<v Speaker 1>for the failed launch. There are even questions about how

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<v Speaker 1>this might affect the government's space industry moving forward, which

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds incredible to me because, I mean, obviously any

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<v Speaker 1>failure is regrettable. Right, you don't want to ever see

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<v Speaker 1>a failure, but technology does fail, and we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>rocket science. There's a reason you say, well, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>rocket science because rocket science is hard. It is really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think this also is tough because it follows

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<v Speaker 1>on Japan's previous launch vehicle, the H two A, which

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<v Speaker 1>had a reputation for being extremely reliable, had a successful

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<v Speaker 1>launch eight of around ninety seven point eight percent. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you're following that track record and your first launch

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gate is a failure, I could see

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<v Speaker 1>how this could be a real black mark on the

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<v Speaker 1>program as a whole. So I'm not sure where Japan's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go based on this failure, but yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would cover that. And that's it for the News today, Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all I got to get one. Okay, okay, Sorry kind

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