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Speaker 2: Our conference championship reaction is presented by Uber eats. Game

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Speaker 2: them all the time. It's official, Kansas City will have

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to face the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, it

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Speaker 2: was interesting watching Philadelphia win. And we'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in thirty minutes. But watching Philadelphia win, I kept thinking

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Speaker 2: during that game, how is Buffalo gonna stop Philadelphia's offense?

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Speaker 2: They just do not match up. And I kept thinking

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Speaker 2: during that I thought Kansas City will match up fine,

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Speaker 2: They'll make enough stops to give Mahomes a chance to

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Speaker 2: win Mahomes much much. You know, it's a coaching and

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Speaker 2: quarterback matchup for Kansas City against Philadelphia. I'll take Kansas

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Speaker 2: City in that one. But as I watched that game,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh boy, Buffalo's going to have their hands full,

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Speaker 2: so let's start. I want to start kind of backwards.

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Speaker 2: So Buffalo all year I thought was a really diverse offense.

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Speaker 2: They got away from relying totally on Josh Allen. I

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Speaker 2: think they're running backs. They're not Detroit, but they're really good.

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Speaker 2: I like their tight ends. I think they're receivers. You

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Speaker 2: have no star Amari Cooper is not what he was,

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Speaker 2: but it's kind of again a diverse group, a slot guy,

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Speaker 2: a big athlete, the veteran, the rookie, and then they

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Speaker 2: go one for five on tush pushes. Now, Bill's fans

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Speaker 2: will say we went two for five, but when they

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Speaker 2: were trying those, I kept thinking, John, guys, you have

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Speaker 2: great backs, second to Detroit in my opinion in the league.

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Speaker 2: You have two excellent backs. You have tight ends. You're

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Speaker 2: not now going to revert back to four year ago

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Speaker 2: Buffalo where Josh Allen on every fourth down. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you knew exactly what they were doing. And Kansas City conversely,

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Speaker 2: though they use Mahomes, I never know what the hell

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Speaker 2: So my first take was, Okay, you're reverted back to

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo that can never beat Kansas City. You got tight,

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Speaker 2: you got conservative, and situationally, you got very predictable, and

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Speaker 2: it drove me nuts. Your take on that, as we start, well.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the Eagles push push that the Bills use.

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Speaker 3: I think when you watch the Eagles do it, I

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Speaker 3: hate the play because it's so automatic. Yeah, but when

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Speaker 3: they run the play, you can't see Jalen Hurts. He

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Speaker 3: disappears when the Bills run it. What did Nance say

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Speaker 3: on the first time they ran at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the game that spags and defenders told him yesterday that

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Speaker 3: Josh likes to go left. Not only does he like

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Speaker 3: to go left, he goes hi. Yeah, obviously he did

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Speaker 3: the one Drew Brees jump over. But even when he's

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Speaker 3: not going to jump over, he goes hi. Guy six six,

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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty pounds, But he does not do

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Speaker 3: the Jalen Hurts under No, they clearly scouted that. And

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Speaker 3: let's face it, Kansas City's defensive line on the short

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Speaker 3: yardage plays. You know the story of this Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: let's just call it what it is. They're the Bulls

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Speaker 3: right now, White. Yeah, they play in these games. They're

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Speaker 3: gonna win them. Yeah. Their defense has always in these

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Speaker 3: big games against the Niners, against the Eagles, all their

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Speaker 3: big AFC Championship wins, their defense comes through. And tonight

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Speaker 3: fourth and five, the touch pushes and the two point

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Speaker 3: plays were fantastic. Fourth and five with one of the

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Speaker 3: great talents we've ever seen in Josh Allen. Spags brings

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Speaker 3: that corner blitz and even Romo's like you would not

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Speaker 3: have expected. He just lined over the corner and the

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Speaker 3: guy was in the backfield like that, and that turned

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Speaker 3: out to be the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the biggest play of the season for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen was reduced to a semi hail Mary. That's

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Speaker 2: what their season was reduced to. So it's coaching Spags.

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Speaker 3: Well, think about think about this colin. They knew he'd

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Speaker 3: want to go right. He's not gonna scramble throw across

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Speaker 3: the corner lineup. The corner just looks like he's playing

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Speaker 3: normal defense and in a split second he's already in

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Speaker 3: the backfield. You could argue that you know the tight

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Speaker 3: ens or to caught the ball, but still it's a

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Speaker 2: I really watching this tonight, there's an MJ Tiger Woods feel.

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Speaker 2: They all wore red mahomes on, Mahomes on Sunday, Tiger

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Speaker 2: do they elevate to another gear, Let's face it, mahomes

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Speaker 2: in these big games against Buffalo. It's just different. He

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Speaker 2: runs more aggressively, he runs more often, he is much

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Speaker 2: more focused. I mean, listen, there's regular season Mahomes, there's

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Speaker 2: playoff Mahomes, then there's Mahomes in Super Bowls and getting

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowls. He absolutely elevates Josh Allen, I thought

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Speaker 2: on the first drive was nervous. Tony Romo called him out.

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Speaker 2: He went Kansas City's first drive. Mahomes was on fire,

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Speaker 2: completely on fire. But this is where's Jordan would play

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Speaker 2: these games, and Michael had bad games. Michael lost to

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Speaker 2: the Expansion Raptors. If I recall like twice, you know,

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Speaker 2: only got that, Michael, like in May and June. That's

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Speaker 2: the only time you got or it was a big

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Speaker 2: TV game on a Sunday prime time on like NBC.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes from the very first drive, he was different. He

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Speaker 2: was never anxious, never rattled, totally focused, more aggressive than

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Speaker 2: he usually is. And I thought John the first drive

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Speaker 2: of the game for Buffalo was aimless. The first drive

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Speaker 2: for Kansas City looked like, we know exactly where their

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Speaker 2: weakness is and so remember they deferred it, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So Kansas City at home seven to nothing lead after

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Speaker 2: open the second half. Right there, with a seven to

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Speaker 2: nothing lead at home, getting the second half kickoff, your

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Speaker 2: chances of winning are over sixty percent. Not that that

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Speaker 2: the game was gonna flaw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he could have thrown Josh Allen on

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Speaker 3: that first drive, two interceptions in the first three plays. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I will say this for him though, as the game

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Speaker 3: went on, he really real settled down and looked like,

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the greatest players on the planet,

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Speaker 3: and obviously gave his team a chance to win. But

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Speaker 3: I actually thought the game could have been over at

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Speaker 3: the end of half when he was twenty one to

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Speaker 3: up not getting the two points, but they got six points.

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Speaker 3: I thought they had to get a field goal. They

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Speaker 3: ended up getting six points that kept them alive. But

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Speaker 3: you know, speaking of the Bulls, if memory serves me correct,

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Speaker 3: weren't they struggling to win Game seven in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals. And you know, remember then Scottie Pippens's back

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Speaker 3: was bad. That's what this kind of felt like. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they were down twenty two to twenty one in the second.

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Speaker 1: Half, and I wrote down, maybe the Chiefs just ran

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Speaker 1: out of magic, and then they didn't because the Bills fumbled,

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Speaker 1: there is no way the Kansaty Chiefs with a seven

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Speaker 3: Because then the Bills even scored and tied the game.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter because then they flipped it where

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Speaker 3: they're always gonna get the ball after they tie the

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Speaker 2: John, I always say this when a game is over,

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Speaker 2: Losing teams, unless it's a blowout, always blame the rests.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's why I can't watch games with fans.

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Speaker 2: So if I would have told you, as a Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills fan, you're gonna fail on multiple two point conversions.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get super conservative in the second half. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna fumble four times, albeit you recover all of them,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna have a horrible opening drive. Kansas City's

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Speaker 2: opening drive is going to be razor sharp. Does it

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Speaker 2: sound like you would win? I mean, just say it

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Speaker 2: out loud. Failed two point conversions one for five on

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Speaker 2: the Josh Allen push push, could not make big stops

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Speaker 2: on mahomes in the last several and on the last drive.

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Speaker 2: What does it sound like like this was a game.

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Speaker 3: You could use the turnable battle as well. You fumble,

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Speaker 3: they don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just cut to the chase. Buffalo had some

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Speaker 2: dark magic work in their way. They fumbled either four

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Speaker 2: that they recovered that is the most fortuitous bounce Buffalo

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Speaker 2: could ever get. By the way, I had the Bills

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Speaker 2: winning this one. I was kind of rooting for the

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Speaker 2: Bills to win. I wanted to see a new Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: But when I watched Philadelphia, my take that whole game

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Speaker 2: was Buffalo is it? They do not match up with phildelp.

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Speaker 2: They are not going to be able to stop Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: And I do feel like Kansas City will have a shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And listen, Josh had to do the Drew Brees

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Speaker 3: on that fourth and one because he realized, I can't

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Speaker 3: And you know the reason Drew Brees does that. He

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Speaker 3: shows you why you can't do that. And listen, I

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Speaker 3: think what really shined through tonight. And listen the Bills.

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Speaker 3: These teams beside that Burrow team, when you play the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: the teams crumble. I mean last year the Ravens just

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Speaker 3: an embarrassing loss. What happened to the Houston Texans a

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Speaker 3: week ago that the Bills. Listen, they keep running into

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Speaker 3: this team, but they do play him better. You know,

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Speaker 3: the Niners and the Eagles have played them well in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. But of all the AFC teams, mainly

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Speaker 3: Lamar and the Ravens, like they've played this team really well.

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Speaker 3: They've had a chance to win. But the difference is

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Speaker 3: I mean, how good Like you said that opening drive,

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Speaker 3: It's like, did Andy have a month to prepare.

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Speaker 1: For this game?

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Speaker 3: Is crazy as facts down the stretch. How many times

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Speaker 3: do his blitzes work perfectly? How dial does he have

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Speaker 3: this group? I mean every time he gets Chris Jones

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Speaker 3: in the right spot. How well is defensive backs play? Listen.

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Speaker 3: I love this game because I thought it kind of

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Speaker 3: just was a throwback game. The violence, the effort, I mean,

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Speaker 3: even that one touchdown play by Cook when he reaches

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Speaker 3: the ball over.

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Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I thought this game was, I mean, game of the year,

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Speaker 3: just in terms of what was on the line. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, I mean, listen, desperately want to do this.

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Speaker 3: The Bill's effort was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Total yards three sixty eight Kansas City three seventy four,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo passing yards identical rushing yards close. They both averaged

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Speaker 2: at least five point five yards of play. One had

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Speaker 2: twenty eight first downs, Kansas City Buffalo had twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Both solid on third down, though Kansas City better. Both

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Speaker 2: effective on fourth down. Both about the same number of plays,

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Speaker 2: Both allowed two sacks, Both had two punts. Both had one.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo had six penalties, Kansas City had five. Both had

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Speaker 2: the ball thirty minutes. I mean, you looked up and

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Speaker 2: down they it was an even match. This is what

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Speaker 2: we expected. I predicted twenty eight to twenty seven Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: but it but failed two point conversions. Very Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: If you wouldn't have if you weren't an NFL fan,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's you know, I think there's a

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Speaker 3: And listen, I learned my lesson. I bet against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: This was more of a bet. I just thought it

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Speaker 3: It's not the end of the world. This team, this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think coaching quarterback, Kansas City has

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Speaker 2: Roseman's drafting, is you know, GMS, we don't pay a

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Speaker 2: lot a lot of attention. Outside of moneyball, we don't

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Speaker 2: pay attention. I mean, the Dodgers just go buy the

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Speaker 2: best players. Right. We don't talk about Andrew Friedman, even

432
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Speaker 2: though he's excellent. It's mostly there. In baseball, we talk

433
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Speaker 2: about how much money can Steve Cohen spend. In the NBA,

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Speaker 2: once you draft a star, the GM's just trying to

435
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Speaker 2: find rotational guys around the star. In the NFL, there

436
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Speaker 2: is a gap in quality of general managers, and to me,

437
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Speaker 2: not just because their teams are good. I think Howie

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Speaker 2: Roseman's won. I think Brett Veach is two depending on

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Speaker 2: the draft. And I don't think I love Andy Reid,

440
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Speaker 2: but in Philadelphia he didn't have this kind of talent.

441
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Speaker 2: I mean it took Brett a couple of years to

442
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Speaker 2: get this receiving core. Right. Remember that's the hardest position

443
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Speaker 2: to draft in the first round. It has the most

444
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Speaker 2: misses in the last twenty years. But I think they're

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Speaker 2: buttoned up now going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing when I got to Philadelphia I learned

447
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Speaker 3: is O line D line comes first. And in my

448
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Speaker 3: four years of drafts when I first got there, Brandon

449
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Speaker 3: Graham was our first round pick. My second year, Danny Watkins,

450
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Speaker 3: he was a flop, But who was offensive lineman? First

451
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Speaker 3: round pick? Fletcher Cox's first round pick, Lane Johnson first

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Speaker 3: round pick. You know, was not saying you can't draft

453
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Speaker 3: other positions, but that's where you win in this league

454
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Speaker 3: is on the fronts, and I mean that's been a

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Speaker 3: separating factor for the Eagles. Think about this too. It's

456
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Speaker 3: not like Andy doesn't love skill guys. He once traded

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Speaker 3: for Terrell Owens, he drafted to Shawn Jackson, he loved

458
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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. But they had a tough decision a couple

459
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Speaker 3: of years back when it came to Tyreek Hill. What

460
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Speaker 3: did they do? They traded him so they could go

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Speaker 3: all in on Chris Jones. They chose one of the

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Speaker 3: two guys, and they not only chose the right guy,

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Speaker 3: then they parlayed that in the McDuffie and Karlovskis. You know,

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Speaker 3: I mean Bill Belichick could have drafted Karloski's he traded

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Speaker 3: out so Andy Reid could trade up.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: So you had Karlovskis to go with Chris Jones, to

468
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Speaker 3: go with a great coordinator, to go with a fantastic secondary.

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Speaker 3: And the one thing the Chiefs en listened it starts

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Speaker 3: with Kelsey and Mahomes. But they just have a lot

471
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Speaker 3: of high level, high football IQ tough guys. It's not

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Speaker 3: actually this sexy like there's not a bunch of Jerry

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Speaker 3: Rice's and Ray Lewis's. I mean, it's not the sexiest

474
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Speaker 3: like NFL films, all time great sound bites. It's just

475
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Speaker 3: kind of old school, boring, high level cats who you know,

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Speaker 3: the one thing and listen, I know a lot of

477
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Speaker 3: people in that organization were not a place where you

478
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Speaker 3: get to sit in the training room on Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Our guys practice. Obviously, if you're legitimately injured, you don't

480
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Speaker 3: have to practice, but this is not like we co

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Speaker 3: through once the season. Listen, there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: players you're like, yeah, here, this guy doesn't practice much

483
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Speaker 3: during the week, and as it in years, that shit

484
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Speaker 3: doesn't fly there. And their star got Travis Kelsey's like

485
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Speaker 3: the hardest practicing guy on the team. In fairness, Tyreek

486
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Speaker 3: always was for them too, but it just got so

487
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Speaker 3: expensive and they really value that and I'd say it

488
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Speaker 3: shows well and I think Belichick did too, and they

489
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Speaker 3: had twenty years of kicking everyone's ass.

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Speaker 2: Show me the warm Weather or Dome team dynasty. If

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Speaker 2: you look at Pro football New England, cold, private, covert, intense,

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Speaker 2: physical Philadelphia, intense, emotional physical Kansas City. You start looking,

493
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Speaker 2: go find me the great dynasties in warm weather. Years

494
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Speaker 2: ago I talked to a guy about this. He said,

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Speaker 2: be careful when you live in a port city like

496
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Speaker 2: a Miami or New Orleans. The players you draft you

497
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Speaker 2: get real silly, really finesse really quick. Guys want to

498
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Speaker 2: go out, The girls are pretty, their restaurants everywhere, the

499
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Speaker 2: outdoor scene. You go to the NFL, the one sport

500
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Speaker 2: in our country that is physicality based as football, it

501
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Speaker 2: is not a coincidence that. I mean, listen, I'm saying

502
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Speaker 2: this with respect to Buffalo and Baltimore. They're ass kicking towns.

503
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Speaker 2: Like people work hard, they shovel their snow for the players.

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Speaker 2: If football is a physical game, I mean last two

505
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Speaker 2: national champions, Ohio State and Michigan pushed people all over

506
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Speaker 2: the field for years. The SEC Bam and George's offenses

507
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: were hit and miss. Their defenses were intimidating and violent,

508
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Speaker 2: and there is something to be said about the physical nature.

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Speaker 2: I mean that we have now a Kansas City and

510
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Speaker 2: a New England dynasty, two New England dynasties and a

511
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Speaker 2: Kansas City dynasty. In the last twenty four years, and

512
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Speaker 2: both are known as intense. Coaches practice hard play, hurt

513
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Speaker 2: front office, and coaches control the environment. And I will

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Speaker 2: say this again, I think Kansas City matches up with

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia much much better than Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Do you totally agree. I think there's the one thing

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Speaker 3: with Philadelphia is they can overwhelm you with talent. But

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Speaker 3: I think you know most teams in Buffalo, you even

519
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: felt early in this game, you just go, I don't

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Speaker 3: think Buffalo's big enough on defense. They overachieve on defense.

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Speaker 3: And I give McDermott like they are. They are guys

522
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Speaker 3: flying around like DeMar Hamlin. Great story, kind of average

523
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Speaker 3: player ideally or not. He's a backup, not starting him. Look,

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Speaker 3: I mean one of their better players who's coming off

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Speaker 3: a concussion protocol gets an immediate concussion. This is a

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Speaker 3: game where you can feel like there might be some

527
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Speaker 3: concussions in this game. And that's how the Eagles play too.

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Speaker 3: Look at the Eagles. Their center has a bad back,

529
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Speaker 3: can't play. They bump a guy over, he gets injured,

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Speaker 3: and then he can't play and the other guy that's

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Speaker 3: injured comes back. In the culture in these two organizations

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Speaker 3: did you notice in Philly that when they won the game,

533
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Lurie's up on the thing with Terry Bradshaw going

534
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: we got one more, we got one more. They're not

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Speaker 3: like celebrating the moment. You could say and listen and

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Speaker 3: it comes. And that always felt that through Howie, there's

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Speaker 3: an intensity in that organization. You probably don't see that

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Speaker 3: as much with the Kansas two Chiefs, but I mean,

539
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Speaker 3: when the season starts, they got one goal, win the championship,

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Speaker 3: nothing else matters. So I just think you have two teams.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Eagles aren't a dynasty by any means,

542
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Speaker 3: but this is their third super Bowl since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: This's our second three years. I mean, they with a

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Speaker 3: lot of these same core players. They've added a couple

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Speaker 3: of young guys, but if you look at their Super

546
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Speaker 3: Bowl two years ago, the majority of the guys are

547
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Speaker 3: on this team besides three or four guys. So I

548
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: just think there's there's just such a physicality with these

549
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Speaker 3: two teams, and that's where they overwhelm you. Now, the

550
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Speaker 3: Eagles have this element of the running back and bust

551
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Speaker 3: sixty seventy yard runs. The Chiefs don't, but they don't

552
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Speaker 3: give up those type plays, So I think it'll be

553
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Speaker 3: much harder for Sakuon. Yeah, it feels like he's had

554
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Speaker 3: a sixty yard run in every other game he's played

555
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Speaker 3: this season. I think that will be a little more difficult.

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Speaker 3: But like their speed, the Chiefs aren't really a speed

557
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Speaker 3: team anymore. So you get inside a dome a little

558
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Speaker 3: faster track. That does benefit Philly, but in who, I

559
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Speaker 3: just don't see who's betting against Andy Reid and the

560
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Speaker 3: Chiefs at this moment. After witnessing what we just witnessed.

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Speaker 2: It's time to take a look at this weekend's tastiest

562
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Speaker 2: matchup in this week's Sunday Night food Ball, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Uber Eats. All right, let's pivot to the

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Speaker 2: Eagles fifty five the Commander's twenty three. So I mean, listen,

565
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Speaker 2: I think I bet the Eagle. This was my favorite

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Speaker 2: bet the last two weeks have been the Eagles. I

567
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Speaker 2: like the Eagles, I like the over, so I hit

568
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Speaker 2: on that. And my take is, I think we just

569
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Speaker 2: have to be Washington. Today was a better story than

570
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Speaker 2: a team is that they were missing their best D lineman,

571
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Speaker 2: their best O lineman, Jaden Daniels is a remarkable player.

572
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Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, I mean, this kid, now what finally has help.

573
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Speaker 2: But I couldn't help but watch that game and is

574
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Speaker 2: the game war on? It felt like you were watching

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Speaker 2: a major league team and a team like Washington just

576
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: didn't have the players. And you know, I think, you know,

577
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Speaker 2: it would be one thing to say, hey, Washington had

578
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: a great effort, but I thought they I mean, they

579
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Speaker 2: had their fumbles, they had multiple turnovers. They reminded me

580
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Speaker 2: a little of the Houston Texans. They just aren't quite

581
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Speaker 2: there yet. They need another draft. They have a lot

582
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Speaker 2: of cap space, they need about four free agents, three

583
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: to four starters in the draft, and then that game's

584
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: gonna look different. But I just felt you were I

585
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: just felt physically, Philly is so big. I mean, AJ

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Speaker 2: Brown is a tight end on Washington. They're so big,

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Speaker 2: They're so physical. And Washington has two great players McLaurin

588
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Speaker 2: and Jade Daniels, several good players, and two of their

589
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Speaker 2: good players were out the old linement and paying the

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Speaker 2: d linement.

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Speaker 3: Well. I heard a stat that the turnover discrepancy of

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Speaker 3: teams that had won in the playoffs and teams they

593
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Speaker 3: had lost in the playoffs coming into this weekend was

594
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Speaker 3: twenty one to three. So if you told me to

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Speaker 3: start the game that Washington was gonna have a bunch

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Speaker 3: of turnovers and fumbles and the Eagles were not, I

597
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: would say they have no chance because it's pretty evident

598
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Speaker 3: how good Jayden Daniels is, Like in texting people to Philly,

599
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: they think he's like a thirty year old all pro.

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Speaker 3: That's what they were preparing for. Those are the words

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Speaker 3: coming out of Fangio. That's how they approached the game

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00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: plan week But when I looked at the matchup, there

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Speaker 3: might be under two players for Washington that start for

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia two players Terry McLaurin and I'm not counting Jayden

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Speaker 3: and Daniels. So you just the talent discrepancy, like the Bills.

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00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: Chiefs got more players that would start for the Bills,

607
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: but the Bills still have a lot of high level guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it might be forty five, fifty five or forty sixty.

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Speaker 3: We're talking like ninety five to five that in that game.

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Speaker 3: And as that game went and they started fumbling, it's

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Speaker 3: just like you you can't do this on the road.

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Speaker 3: So like Honestly, I think they're two years away from

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Speaker 3: being even remotely close to a team like Philly, And honestly,

614
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Speaker 3: like when the Lions are healthy and some of these

615
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: other teams, I mean, they have such a head start.

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Speaker 3: This was just to make the playoffs and be a

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00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: one and done would have been the most incredible story

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Speaker 3: we've ever seen. I think it's crazy. And the game

619
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Speaker 3: really got away from Washington toward the end of the

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Speaker 3: third early in the fourth quarter. I think Jayden Daniels

621
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Speaker 3: a remarkable player. I think he's one of the best

622
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Speaker 3: players I've ever seen, given the circumstances of the team

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Speaker 3: he's playing with and his.

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Speaker 2: Remember remember when Andrew Luck got the Colts to the

625
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Speaker 2: AFC Championship, I think against New England and they got

626
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Speaker 2: the shit kicked out of the ball, and you were like,

627
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Speaker 2: this is That's what I felt like. I like, oh

628
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Speaker 2: my god, this quarter Now I think it was in

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Speaker 2: Luck's third fourth.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't third because because he went to the playoffs

631
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Speaker 3: his first three years and he got farther each year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and it was so I felt the same way.

633
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, boy, this young quarterback is really good, but

634
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Speaker 2: this roster has no business being in the AFC Championship Washington.

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00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Washington's roster is not as good. It's not as good

636
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: as Green Bays, it's not as good as the Rams.

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00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: It's not as good overall as the Sea Hawks, the Lions,

638
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: so Minnesota. So it's a great story. You know, I

639
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: wrote down a lot of different things during this game,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's it's weird when it comes to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, I feel like he's faster than Walter Peyton

642
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: and maybe not as strong as Peyton. He's definitely not

643
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: as clever or shifty as Barry Sanders, but he's clever

644
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: and shifty. But he really is. He really is an

645
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: ald timer. I mean, first of all, you get you

646
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: get high end speed, you get it quickly. Because of

647
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: his size. You know, he's got that sort of a

648
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: shorter size, so he's hard to see behind the Eagles

649
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: O line. So he kind of bursts out of the

650
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: cloud or the fog. He can run you over, he

651
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: can make you miss. I always think whenever you see

652
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: a great player, I remember this. I remember this.

653
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Speaker 3: In golf.

654
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: You can see a guy like Brooks cap You're like, yeah,

655
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: he's just bigger and stronger than people, or Tiger in

656
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: his prime. But a lot of times you'll watch a

657
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: pro athlete like Larry Fitzgerald and you're like, he's fast,

658
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: but he's he's not that fast. I mean he's big,

659
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: but he's not is he that big? And then you're

660
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: just like, Larry Fitzgerald is always open and hung onto everything.

661
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: And you just watch certain athletes and you're like, man,

662
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: they make it look so it has to be a

663
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: combination of like intelligence, instinct, workout, work ethic. It's a combination.

664
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Speaker 2: Sequon is one of those guys where when you watch him,

665
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: it just it looks easy, like he just makes great

666
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: players look so bad with one step. That and that

667
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: to me has always been the difference between very good

668
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: and great to like, oh that's all time stuff. Is

669
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: that Like Reggie White would just bat good offensive lineman

670
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Speaker 2: out of the way, like literally with his off arm

671
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: would bat them away, And you're like, Okay, that's just

672
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: different than everybody else. I Saquon to me is the

673
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: top five to six running back I've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of positions if

676
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: you're drafted like he was, and it's polarizing when you

677
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: take a running back number two overall because so much

678
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: out of your control. His old line sucked. They had

679
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: never had a passing game. So if you have no

680
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: passing game and you have no offensive line, you could

681
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: be Barry Sanders. With Walter Bayton, it's going to be

682
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: a struggle. I grew up on Barry Sanders. They had

683
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: Herman More, they had an explosive passing game. Yeah, obviously

684
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 3: he was a special player. But I wrote down three

685
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: guys because I think there's a chance, if he stays healthy,

686
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Speaker 3: he could have this second kind of lease on life

687
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 3: in the NFL and become like a Hall of Fame guy. Now,

688
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, and Marshall Falk were all guys

689
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Speaker 3: that like after their third or fourth year, Curtis Martin

690
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 3: went to the Jets, Bettis went to the Steelers, and

691
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: Marshall Falk went to the Rams. Curtis Martin was really

692
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: good on the Patriots, and Marshall Falk was really good

693
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: on the ramps right, and Jerome Bettis was solid. Now,

694
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: I don't put Jerome Bettis quite on those two guys level,

695
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: but like Saquon, I would say most people described his

696
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: careers like, eh, that was kind of underwhelming. It just

697
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: wasn't going well. It wasn't his fault. Yeah, because you're

698
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: watching him on this team. How about the way that

699
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: game opened. They went like twenty five plays Washington on

700
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Speaker 3: that first drive, they got like seventeen fourth downs and

701
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Speaker 3: they ended up kicking a field goal. And I saw

702
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Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz tweet this out. He's like, God that it

703
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: reminds me a lot of Notre Dame. If that's what

704
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Speaker 3: you have to do to start a game and only

705
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: get three points, it's gonna be a long game. The

706
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: Eagles go one play, he does like a three sixty

707
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: bounces off another guy cuts it back for sixty five

708
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: seventy yards. You're like, uh, this does not feel It

709
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 3: was insane that at one point in time this game

710
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: was fourteen to twelve, because after that drive and then

711
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: another early drive, you're like, this thing could get out

712
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: of hand, and Washington, and this where Dan deserves credit,

713
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: Jayden deserves credit, kept it kind of. I mean twenty

714
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Speaker 3: seven to fifteen at half time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it probably.

716
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Speaker 3: Should have been like forty to seven at half time,

717
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: but Washington fought and then the wheels came off. But

718
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 3: when you have and this is where when Jalen's healthy

719
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Speaker 3: and they have a running threat with the quarterback and

720
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Speaker 3: the running back, what are you really gonna do? I mean, Colin,

721
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Speaker 3: they ran for seven touchdowns today, ran for seven touchdowns

722
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Speaker 3: and the two of them combined. I mean, what's take one?

723
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Speaker 3: Ad he had two and Jalen had three. I mean,

724
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Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? Eagles will never lose a

725
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Speaker 3: game if they're getting that type of production in the

726
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Speaker 3: running game.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, because theirs. That was this week's Sunday Night

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Speaker 2: Kansas City is favored by one and a half points.

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Speaker 2: That would have been close to my guests, like, I

741
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: like Kansas City. I like Kansas City in the Super Bowl.

742
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Speaker 2: I think they match up really well with Philadelphia. And again,

743
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Speaker 2: you know it's here's the thing. We have our questions

744
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: about Nick Sirianni, but we love the roster. What do

745
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: we do with Sean McDermott, What do we do with them?

746
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't tell me when you watch the

747
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: first drives of the game today. One team looked prepared,

748
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: one looked aimless. You can't tell me. In these these

749
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: fourth down, high leverage situations, you thought McDermott was the

750
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: better coach than Andy Reid. If you're Buffalo. As we

751
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: move back to that game, what do you do with McDermott.

752
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: He's clear, he's like Mike McCarthy, but a defensive version.

753
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: You know he's capable, you know he's above average, he's

754
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: B plus. But when you watch that game today, if

755
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: you just think about fourth downs, high leverage moments, situational football,

756
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: opening drive, it was Kansas City, Kansas City Kansas City Again.

757
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo had two three huge plays in the game,

758
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: but I mean Kansas City had about eleven different players

759
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: touching it in big spots. I don't what do you

760
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: do with McDermott, be cause Sirianni getting to a Super

761
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: Bowl survives. McDermott survives, I'm sure as well. But nobody

762
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: this morning. Once the emotions come back down. What once

763
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: the emotions flatten out in Buffalo, it feels like you

764
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: got kind of out coached again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think you just go to church

766
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Speaker 3: and pray someone else takes out the Chiefs in a

767
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: playoffs so you don't have to play them, because I

768
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: think you could beat anybody else. I think, who else

769
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: are you going to hire? You know, you're the only

770
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: team that plays him close in the AFC. It was

771
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Speaker 3: seventeen to ten last year in the AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: But that game wasn't close. You know. The Bills, I

773
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Speaker 3: hear you. I mean they they feel like they should

774
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: win these games. But look at Sirianni. He has two

775
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: coordinators that may combine eight nine million dollars. He has

776
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Speaker 3: the best. He has like the theo Epstein of GMS,

777
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: who just load his roster. I watched the Bills team,

778
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Speaker 3: I don't even see that much talent on the field beside,

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Speaker 3: you know, relative to some of the other two teams. Hell,

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Speaker 3: I didn't even think they were a talent as the

781
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Speaker 3: Ravens last week? Did you actually very impressed? A lot

782
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Speaker 3: of people thought had the Jets were the betting favorite

783
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Speaker 3: to win the East a week before the season started.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Bills were. I mean, I love I

785
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Speaker 2: think he's I think he's.

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Speaker 3: Pretty damn good, you know. So it was his fault

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Speaker 3: that Joe Brady on that. On the last drive, the

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Speaker 3: first play of the last drive, with whatever, three minutes

789
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Speaker 3: to go, Joe Brady calls a toss play and it

790
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: gets stuffed for like a minus a couple of yards.

791
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: Like what do you guys? Put it to job his hand?

792
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: Why you run the ball with three minutes down a

793
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: field goal? But they get you know, so, you know,

794
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: when you're a defensive head coach, you are a little

795
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: beholden to your coordinator. Now, I think the old school

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00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: Sean was yelling on the headset, run the ball, do

797
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: this they're going for constantly on fourth down. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's much closer to Dan Quinn or Dan Campbell. Is

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Speaker 3: he not as in terms of aggression on these fourth

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00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: and shorts which three four years ago before they had

801
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: the scars they do now. I don't think he's doing that,

802
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: like he's on the aggressive side now as they give

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Speaker 3: the thumbs up to his offense. Is he not?

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Speaker 2: No? I think I think Sean is, and I think

805
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: he's more than capable. I really feel he's Mike McCarthy.

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00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: And I said I would have hired Mike McCarthy for

807
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: three jobs. McDermott would be out of work for fifteen minutes.

808
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Speaker 2: But I do feel like you get you know, it

809
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Speaker 2: reminds me what.

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Speaker 3: Are your options right now? That's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like Doug Collins with MJ. MJ loved Doug

812
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Collins because his answer was always just give MJ the

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Speaker 2: ball and let him score. And then they went to

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Speaker 2: Philip Jackson and phil Jackson said, no, we're not going

815
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Speaker 2: to do that. You have to trust your teammates. And

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00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a little Sean McDermott. Sean McDermott

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00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: is a little Doug Collins where it's like you just

818
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: let Josh Josh is the guy and it's like, no,

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Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is the tush push doesn't

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Speaker 2: work with a six seven quarterback. It's not going to

821
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Speaker 2: work against Kansas City's D line. It's just not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: And when it does, he can get hurt, he can fumble.

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Speaker 2: I mean, by the way he almost lateraled last week.

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Speaker 2: If you recall, remember against the Ravens, Josh wanted to

825
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: lateral once. He did it again in this game where

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Speaker 2: where he's he's getting rambunctious, he's getting worked up, he's

827
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Speaker 2: trying to make a play. It's like, God, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I feel bad for Buffalo fans. I thought

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Speaker 2: this was the year. But you know, it's sometimes it's

830
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Speaker 2: just as simple as why would you bet against Malmes.

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Speaker 2: I didn't bet against Kansas City because I didn't think

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Speaker 2: they were capable, But I thought Buffalo, this was the

833
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: best version of Buffalo. And then in the second half

834
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Speaker 2: they clammed up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's look at Andy Reid on a fourth and

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Speaker 3: one early in that game. They had Mahonemes basically scrambled

837
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Speaker 3: to the right, and Mahomes isn't as fast as Josh Allen.

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00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: How often in huge games this year, did they know

839
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Speaker 3: Jayden's closer to You know, Josh Allen used Jayden to

840
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: get on the edges. They know you're running it up

841
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Speaker 3: the middle. If Jim Nance knows that, So Spags and

842
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: Andy kind of wink wink told him over a sandwich

843
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: in the conference room after a player too, you should

844
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: realize this isn't going to work and pivot. So if

845
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Speaker 3: anyone wants to be critical on the tush push plays

846
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: that they worked last week, they were not working this week.

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Speaker 2: Pivot.

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Speaker 3: You have one of the greatest athletes pound for it.

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Speaker 3: You have like the modern you have this generation's version

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Speaker 3: of Cam Newton. So get him on the He's fast enough,

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Speaker 3: he's been doing his whole career to get on the

852
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: edges of the tackle. But they just they were obsessed

853
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: with running it and his move and they knew it

854
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: was just to go right over the left guard and

855
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: they clearly emphasized pinching that area and he goes high.

856
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 3: So it's like the Washington thing. It sucks to lose, right,

857
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: they got there, But how what an incredible accomplishment for

858
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: the organization. Think about Josh Harris's owned the Sixers for

859
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 3: almost fifteen years. They've never made it to a conference championship.

860
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: He's owned this team one year and they're in the

861
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: conference championship for the first time since nineteen ninety one

862
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: with a team that I mean, they don't even have

863
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: a top just guy for guy fifteen roster in the NFL.

864
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 3: You know, they have a special quarterback and a good coach.

865
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: But I think when you look at the Bills, you know,

866
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people did think the Bills

867
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: were going to step back this year. Now. I thought

868
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: they were gonna make the playoffs. I didn't know how

869
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: good they were going to be. They were right there

870
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: total toe. I mean, they were up twenty two to

871
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: twenty one in the fourth quarter against the Chiefs. I

872
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: think that's where it hurts. You have now had the

873
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: Chiefs in Kansas City on the ropes multiple times and

874
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: you can't get it done. But I think this goes

875
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: back to the Michael Jordan thing. That was true with

876
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan. People had him on the ropes. People had

877
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods on the ropes and they just couldn't close.

878
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: At least, if you are going to have this version

879
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: of anyone on the ropes, it's these guys. No one

880
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: can beat them if they win the Super Bowl, if

881
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: they win three straight, I mean, we've never seen that.

882
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: When we're never seeing that again, all these guys could

883
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: just retire because I mean, who's ever matching that?

884
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the again, you know, Buffalo is gonna blame the officials.

885
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: We got a first down. It's like once, once the

886
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: emotion dies down, you're going to look back at all

887
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: the two point conversions missed and the tush pushes and

888
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: you're opening drive and you couldn't you couldn't make stops

889
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: Kansas City on their last drive. And uh, you know,

890
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I think, listen, we got one football game left, Kansas

891
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: City favored by a point and a half over Philadelphia,

892
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: and I like Kansas City high scoring, getting There'll be

893
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: some points, but again, I will take the best quarterback

894
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: probably ever, and the best coach in my opinion, probably

895
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: ever in a big game with two weeks to prepare.

896
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: And I said I felt going into the game this weekend,

897
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: going into it, the AFC champ would win the Super Bowl.

898
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: But while I was watching the Eagles, I thought Philadelphia

899
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: would bury Buffalo. Buffalo would have no answers for that offense.

900
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Jesus Washington's defense played their ass off for six weeks

901
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,920
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906
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908
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910
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,359
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911
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: This was.

912
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty remarkable, So let's talk about it. Let's give

913
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: this ten minutes so it has to be the most

914
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: embarrassing moment. The Eagles have now been to eight NFC

915
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: championships in four Super Bowls since the Cowboys have been

916
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: to one conference championship, so Philadelphia is separated as franchise.

917
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: But the Cowboys announced Brian Schottenheimer as the head coach

918
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: on a Friday night news dump, late late, late Friday night.

919
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: Now it makes me believe that either Jerry Jones was

920
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: caught completely flat footed by Mike McCarthy choosing to leave,

921
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: or it's some sort of plan to get the number

922
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: one pick next year, because Schottenheimer is a nice guy,

923
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 2: but he is a bounce around the league, never really

924
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 2: like getting opportunities at the highest level. Jag Seattle can't

925
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: really maintain jobs. I said this the other day. Their

926
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: lack of urgency on Dak's contract crushed them, and their

927
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: lack of urgency on hiring a coach. It's hard to explain.

928
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it.

929
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear. You know Jerry Well, the

930
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: news dumps very telling, right. Jerry runs his franchise for

931
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: the last definitely the last fifteen twenty years like a

932
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: television show. He literally was just on one of the more

933
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: popular ones in the country. You can't tell me. I mean,

934
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: if Jerry liked the hire, he would have put this

935
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: thing out in the middle of the night on Sunday

936
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: or first thing Monday morning, so everyone talked about him

937
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: all week Friday night ten o'clock, not Friday night ten

938
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: o'clock Eastern. I mean this was late after the country

939
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: might have been asleep. I think he thought, listen, they

940
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: knew coming into the season that Mike McCarthy was on,

941
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: his contract was ending, so we all knew that. We

942
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: assumed Mike McCarthy was fired. And then Black Monday came

943
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: and Mike was not fired. We're like, well, clearly and

944
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: people have been talking, maybe they're just going to keep them.

945
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: Jerry thought it could just give him some fake two

946
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: year contract, like Mike, where the hell are you gonna go?

947
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: And pretty clear Mike might have misplaced his hand a

948
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: little too, because I think he thought he could get

949
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: the Bears job. Yeah, but I think Mike realized kind

950
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: of maybe halfway or toward the end of that week,

951
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: as he wanted Jason Witten on his staff, Jerry was

952
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: just gonna kind of bend him over, like, hey, Jerry,

953
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 3: I've made a lot of money in the last fifteen years, buddy,

954
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: I don't need you, and I'm not just going to

955
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: acquiesce to everything you want and basically told him to

956
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: kick Rocks. And I think Jerry thought the whole time

957
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: he could essentially give him like a two year contract.

958
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: You know, think about this, Jerry just hired Brian Schottenheimer.

959
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: Jerry's kind of cheap, Like that's one thing that's pretty

960
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: telling Jerry's not these Ben Johnson, Mike Rabel making twelve thirteen, fourteen.

961
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy was making seven million dollars right now. Granted

962
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: he was hired five years ago, but he was on

963
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: a seven year million dollars. That's one of the lower

964
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: paid coaches in the league. Would you guess Brian Schottenheimer

965
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: is making more than seven million dollars. There's a decent

966
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: chance that Brian Schottenheimer's the lowest paid coach in the NFL.

967
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: I think he is.

968
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: We know what Ben Johnson makes, we know Pete Carroll

969
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: ain't make it seven, and we know Bileam Cohen just

970
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: got twelve or thirteen million dollars. So Jerry's a little cheap.

971
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: He misplayed his hand. And you'd been saying this, and

972
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: I've always defended Jerry a little bit. He is really

973
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: in his Al Davis phase now, like they are. That

974
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: was sometimes you fire a coach whatever it's time, but

975
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: go through that week and then eventually break up with

976
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy and end up a week later with Brian Schottenheimer.

977
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 3: And once upon a time Brian Schottenheim, remember when he

978
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: was Rex Ryan's OC and they were with Mark Sanchez.

979
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: He was like thirty seven, thirty eight years old. He

980
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: was viewed as a head coach. That was fifteen years ago.

981
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 3: Was the last time Brian Schottenheimer had a head coaching interview?

982
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: Has he had one in a decade? Now? That's not

983
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 3: the end all be all, But why would you fire

984
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, who has accomplished suff and then hire his

985
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator who's not some valued candidate. It doesn't make

986
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: any sense.

987
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: He didn't even call plays. Yeah, McCarthy, you know it's

988
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: not It's not below Jerry to actually make calls dissuading

989
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: people from hiring Mike McCarthy because Mike McCarthy suddenly was

990
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: a hot candidate. Now he's not even getting interviewed, and

991
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: he's clearly the best candidate on the market. I mean,

992
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: the Saints, what are the Saints going to do? He'd

993
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: obviously the best candidate is I think, you know, and

994
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: I've said this, if Lebron didn't go to the Lakers,

995
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers are the Cowboys. They're just certain them. I mean,

996
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: Lebron is literally saved the franchise. They were Kobe's last

997
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: five years. I think they're the worst win lost percentage

998
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: in the league. It could be wrong, but it was.

999
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: It was really bad. So it's just, you know, it's

1000
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: just one of those things where it's not a coincidence

1001
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: when people like Andy Reid are successful all the time.

1002
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: It's not a coincidence when certain gms have good draft

1003
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: classes over and over and over. And I think the

1004
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys the last couple of draft classes have been

1005
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: a weak. I mean they've missed on their their first

1006
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean they hit on Ceedee Lamb and Micah, but

1007
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: their last two first round picks have been weak. They

1008
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: work by Dak Prescott again, They're just they have really

1009
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: fallen to me, John and I don't take any pleasure

1010
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 2: in saying this. They've become a little like Cleveland. They're

1011
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: a little like the Jets. They're not as chaotic, but

1012
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: they're they're really a second tier franchise. Like they're they're

1013
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: they're not even they're there are not remotely close to

1014
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: a top five NFC roster. Forget AFC, they're not. They're

1015
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: they could they could be the eighth, the ninth best

1016
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: roster in the NFC.

1017
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: Now, well, think about this, you just hit on they

1018
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: haven't been in the Conference Championship game since what ninety six?

1019
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: The Eagles just since that foal So Foles and then

1020
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: the last two Jalen have not only been to three,

1021
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: they won them. I mean the last two they played

1022
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: Minnesota with Foles, they blew them out. Jalen against the

1023
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: Niners they knocked out Purty, blew them out, and tonight

1024
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: they scored fifty five points. So they've been to three

1025
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: super Bowls in the last what eight years? Seven years?

1026
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 3: So you are in a different stratosphere than them. And

1027
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: then Washing sells the team. They get a real coach,

1028
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: a superstar quarterback, and a real GM and they're gonna

1029
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 3: start lapping you. If I'm a cowboy fan, thank god

1030
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: the Giants have their own issues or we would. It's

1031
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: that Friday night for a guy that knows just I mean,

1032
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: one thing he's great about is getting people to talk

1033
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 3: about his team. I mean, it's why he talks twice

1034
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: a week. No other owner says a peep column. None

1035
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: of them talk at all. It's not like they don't

1036
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: have Biggie. They realize, what's the point. Why am I

1037
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: going to say a word? Most gms? You notice how

1038
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 3: many gms come on your television show throughout the year,

1039
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: sparingly here and there. But they let the coach and

1040
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: the players talk during the season, right, it's not their time.

1041
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: Jerry talks twice a week, sometimes three times. And I

1042
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: don't blame anyone from talking to him because he gives

1043
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: you incredible quotes. But that's not a healthy way to operate.

1044
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: It's just not And I thought that it was overblown

1045
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: a little bit when remember when the story came out,

1046
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 3: Dak said, they have fans walking around the facility, but

1047
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: once you start losing, you start going. Well, where Jerry's

1048
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: priorities right now? It's like, does he just want to

1049
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: save some money here with Brian Schottenheim or did he

1050
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: get into a situation that he never thought he'd be

1051
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: in and then didn't know who to talk to. Of course,

1052
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: Dion wasn't that interested. He's Dean, doesn't answer to anyone

1053
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: in Colorado. Jerry tell him everything to do. That's the

1054
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: other thing. You go work with the Cowboys, like you

1055
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 3: listen Woody Johnson, theseuys bug you with dumb ideas. Jerry's

1056
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: literally telling you like who to play when to play him,

1057
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: you know, like football, Like he thinks he's al Davis

1058
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: lost his mind. But at one point in time, al

1059
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: Davis really new football? Like does Jerry really know? Like

1060
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 3: is Jerry watching tape? Give me no chance. I don't

1061
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: even blame him, But I also wouldn't be an owner

1062
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: if I'm not watching tape telling you what to do.

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00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Well, the Kansas City Chiefs have won seventeen straight one

1064
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: possession games NFL record. They will be favored over Philadelphia.

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00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: You think he wins this game, Andy, I guess he

1066
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 3: just immediately on the Lombard Pardi Walsh Belichick.

1067
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: You know what, John, I think I've told you this before. John,

1068
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: if the NFL had addressed CCE ten years earlier and

1069
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: change the rules ten years earlier, Belichick would have two

1070
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: fewer Super Bowls. Andy would have one or two more,

1071
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: and potentially and we would be viewing we would be

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00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 2: viewing Andy Reid as the best coach of all time.

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00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, here's some things. Andy's one of those guys

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00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: that has aged well. And I really consider this a thing.

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00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: How do you age Belichick has not aged well? You know,

1076
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: kind of grumpy, domineering coach. Mike Dickett in age well.

1077
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: Bobby Knight didn't age well. Tony Larusa didn't age well.

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00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's not aging particularly well. Kind of this my way,

1079
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: domineering rigidity. Who tends to age well? Are people that

1080
00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: are willing to elevate others, be others, mentors give as well.

1081
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: Let's get Andy Reid ages really well. Bill Walsh, by

1082
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: the way, you know, on his coaching tree, and I

1083
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: think there are certain coaches out there that are givers

1084
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: and mentors. And I think I think Andy's ability to

1085
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: win with multiple quarterbacks is something Belichick could never do.

1086
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: And Belichick did in age well. Like there's two eras

1087
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 2: of football. Andy won in both. Bill dominated one and

1088
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: got fire in the other. And so I look at

1089
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: Andy Reid as he didn't have the early success, but

1090
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: he didn't have Tom Brady. He was dealing with Michael Vick,

1091
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: and he was dealing with Donovan McNabb and you know,

1092
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: he was dealing with B and C quarterbacks. Bill couldn't

1093
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: win with anybody. He had one year with Matt Castle, like,

1094
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: he just struggled with everybody. So and when Bill made

1095
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: that move to make Matt Patricia an offensive coordinator, it

1096
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: was like whoa, whoa, He's really toned after what's happened

1097
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: on the league League. Yeah, I was just like, wow, Bill,

1098
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 2: You've It's like it's like the stories you hear about

1099
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: Tony LaRussa with the White Sox. It's like just it's

1100
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: the game's passed him or Bill or Bobby Night at

1101
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: the end, you know it just the game had passed

1102
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: him by the one and done culture. Bobby couldn't put

1103
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: his arms around it. You know, Rest in peace for Bobby.

1104
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: But I think Andy's the best go back if you're

1105
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: a Bill's fan when this game's on the NFL network,

1106
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: and watch the first drive of Buffalo and watch the

1107
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: first drive of Kansas City. It was a coaching mismatch.

1108
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what Buffalo was trying to do is

1109
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: if they did not practice. Kansas City is like attacking

1110
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: the middle of the field. And then on the final drive,

1111
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: look at what Spags reduced Buffalo to. You saw great

1112
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: offensive coaching to start it, brilliant defensive coaching to end it.

1113
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: And that's the difference. That to me, was the difference

1114
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: in the guy. I thought it was a real for

1115
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City's coaching.

1116
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reiterate everything you said. Just it's crazy. I

1117
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: can't I just Buffalo had that lead. I think anytime.

1118
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Speaker 3: This is the second time now they've had them on

1119
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: the road with a lead in the fourth quarter. I know.

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Speaker 3: Listen and I know a lot of forty nine er

1121
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: people in my life. The forty nine ers have had

1122
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: the lead twice on Andy Reid's That's part of this

1123
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: era too. They are coming back in all their games.

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: They are down in the second half. They are not

1125
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: blowing every very Patriot like that way. Like a lot

1126
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: of the Patriot games were back and forth and time. Yeah,

1127
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: they won with situational football.

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Speaker 2: Big changes today.

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Speaker 3: So it's like to be down twenty two to twenty

1130
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: one and then all of a sudden, five minutes later

1131
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: they have a seven point lead and you're like, eh,

1132
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: they're winning this thing. What happened that one?

1133
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: Listen, you and I I remember I lived in Connecticut.

1134
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: I heard the same stuff. It's the officials, they get breaks.

1135
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: My take was always a balls the coaching sport be

1136
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Brady in these big spots. There's so much

1137
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: about football, John, you and I and the fans don't

1138
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: see at the line of scrimmage, and these just circumstantial moments.

1139
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: Brady and Mahomes are the two best I've ever seen.

1140
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: Manning's up there, but they're just better than everybody else

1141
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: in those Why.

1142
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: They don't throw picks and they don't fumble in these

1143
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: big moments. When's the last time the Chiefs turned the

1144
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: ball over? It feels like it's been years.

1145
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: Well, they had Yeah, they had one fumble today near

1146
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: the defensive line. I remember, and by the way, Mahomes

1147
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: had it and Ed Oliver stole it from him.

1148
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, good points. Mahmes fumbled.

1149
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo again. Sho reiterate Buffalo either fumbled four or

1150
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: five times, recovered all of them.

1151
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Speaker 3: That's unheard of.

1152
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: That's dark magic shit, all right. Three and Ounces podcast

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Speaker 2: Former NFL scout John middlecoff as always great seeing.

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Speaker 3: You, see you go

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Speaker 1: The volume