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Speaker 1: June twenty, first edition of the program. We have no

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Speaker 1: information in recent weeks about the horrific mass murder of

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Speaker 1: children by a deranged gunman in Uvalde Texas, and I

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Speaker 1: watched this morning live as the Texas Senate Committee to

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Speaker 1: Protect All Texans went through the latest information, the step

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Speaker 1: by step of what the law enforcement response to this

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Speaker 1: now more than ever I am, I am beyond a

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Speaker 1: was unacceptable. There were major errors made. I understand they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people who say, no one's perfect,

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Speaker 1: it's Monday morning quarterback, okay, But there's also that that's

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Speaker 1: expecting them to be superheroes are to be perfect. But

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Speaker 1: there is a level at which we could all agree

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Speaker 1: that catastrophic failure needs criticism, right. I mean, anybody who

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Speaker 1: serious errors in judgment, and somehow the entire facility burned down,

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Speaker 1: many many children were killed. That was a horrific law

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Speaker 1: Three minutes after the subject under the West Building, there

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Speaker 1: And I get it. And I respect our door kickers,

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Speaker 1: Nobody did anything. Nobody did anything. You know, you could say, oh,

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Speaker 1: But more on that another day. Thanks Hanging shields High