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Speaker 2: This is Leading Off Live. It's the Joey p Joe

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Speaker 2: Look at us here we are back again. Shout out

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Speaker 2: What a wacky wild season it has been in Major

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Speaker 1: We talk about the wild card race, our best bets

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Speaker 2: Just warms my heart so good. Our best calls are

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Speaker 2: My youth were those Bash brother teams that were dominant. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: One thing I hate, by the way, asking is Sacramento

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Speaker 2: How did you guys do in your leagues? Well, in

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Speaker 1: To want to keep him, but I want to keep him.

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Speaker 1: I got like Frank, Wonder Franco. Yeah, no, you don't

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Speaker 2: No, wonder Frank, I mean Wonder Franco. Well, I meant,

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Speaker 2: I tried to.

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Speaker 2: Who I mean, I can't even No, No, Tampa in

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Speaker 2: Caminaro. Junior Caminaro is what we were waiting for all year.

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Speaker 1: Well guess what two months? The outcome is still the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like I was heavily invested in Keeper my

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, Showeyotani, I think that was I mean,

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Speaker 2: Another guy that never gets enough credit. Dude, that's another

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Speaker 1: Me right, I think it might be the most underrated

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Speaker 1: I thought the power might be more of a question

429
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Speaker 1: with Ellie with the batting average, so like, you know,

430
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Speaker 1: the whole like ONEO Ellie stuff. I always thought it

431
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Speaker 1: was heavily stolen bases in Ellie, but I thought the

432
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Speaker 1: power would go in Onell Cruz and lo and behold,

433
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Speaker 1: Ellie is a more prolific power hitter. Because even though

434
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Speaker 1: Onell Cruiz but and this is the shock, I still

435
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 1: can't get over ONEO Cruz. If you would have told

436
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: me preseason he's gonna hit close to two seventy, I'm

437
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna tell you he's hitting thirty five homers. So that's

438
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 1: the shock that, like Ellie became a better hitter. I'm sorry,

439
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: oneel became a better hitter, but then the power just

440
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Speaker 1: didn't really develop where Elliott just all came together. Ellie's

441
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Speaker 1: a superstar.

442
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 2: He is a superstar. He got caught seiling sixteen times.

443
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: And I think we'll take back considering how aggressive and

444
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: a three forty two OBP Like that's the thing to me, Like,

445
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, that's what you worry about all the strikeouts

446
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 2: with other other cruise. But he certainly got there. Amazing.

447
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: Also to see more than twenty players with thirty or

448
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 2: more stolen bases, that is fun batting average leaders. Look,

449
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 2: it's been Bobby Witt for a while. Good to see

450
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: Vlad Guerrero have a rebound two because my goodness, what

451
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: a miserable first half for him finishing the year though,

452
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 2: thirty one oh two, three twenty five. What are your

453
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: thoughts on Vladdie here going forward into twenty twenty four?

454
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Speaker 2: Did we finally put that aside? Are we feeling good

455
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Speaker 2: about him? Yeah?

456
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: I thinks I mean he was on the early I

457
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Speaker 1: know we cut them off in like late June or July.

458
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 1: But you know, Joey and I were grinding putting out

459
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Speaker 1: weekly waiver and trade videos, and Vlad was on that list.

460
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: And he was one of the most obvious one at

461
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: the very beginning because he had this beautiful barrage of

462
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: underlying great stats where he wasn't getting the ball in

463
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: the air and guess what, it was a launch angle thing.

464
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: And then he cured it and he started getting the

465
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 1: ball in the air. When you barrel and you hit

466
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: the ball really hard and you're making good contact, good

467
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 1: things will happen. So you know, not to get too taudy,

468
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: because there's plenty of things. As many things that are right,

469
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: there's probably double that are wrong. That's just the nature

470
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Speaker 1: of baseball. That's one that was just a smash and

471
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Speaker 1: it ended up working out, and his value will be

472
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Speaker 1: back up next year. The funny thing is is it

473
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Speaker 1: won't be around like it's always been, Like what about

474
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Speaker 1: Vlad or Alonzo. It's like Vlad's in his own tier now,

475
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: like Olsen and Alonso are going to be fighting for

476
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Speaker 1: that equity of bad average and homers. Now, Vlad is

477
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Speaker 1: in that elite first base territory.

478
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Speaker 2: You were one hundred percent right. Your biggest fade of

479
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Speaker 2: the year going was Luis Aries only four home runs.

480
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: I don't care if you get three twelve forty five

481
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: RBI four home runs. Stick it where the sun don't shine,

482
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: like I'm not interested in that. Let's get to some

483
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: of the pitchers and some of the performances too. Chris

484
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: Sale leaving the league in era at two three eight,

485
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: Scula two three nine, Zach Willer pillar to post has

486
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: been fantastic. We said that showed to Ibanaga was the

487
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: guy to invest in over Yamamoto, and I feel really

488
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Speaker 2: good about that, like sorry, like he got hurt. We

489
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: talked about the frame being a problem, and Imanaga is

490
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: fifteen to three with a two nine one era. Framber

491
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: Valdez and again one of the steadier guys in baseball.

492
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: Another sub three era from him. Cormyn Burns very good,

493
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: great at times, not as great at others. Michael King

494
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, another guy that we

495
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: were super in on. Seth Lugo and Michael King. Those

496
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Speaker 2: were I think our collective two guys, especially me with

497
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Speaker 2: Seth you.

498
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Speaker 1: Or Seth Lugo, I was I was one of the

499
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Speaker 1: highest and the we were on Michael King.

500
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Speaker 2: We were both on King. I think we were very

501
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Speaker 2: aggressive ranking him. I know in the Black Book it

502
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Speaker 2: was Lugo and King. For me, that were my two, Like, look,

503
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: these are the breakout guys, both guys around three eras.

504
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: Both guys I mean Michael King two hundred strikeouts this year.

505
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: Lugo won seventy eight one h nine whip for Lugo

506
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: this year, a three ERA. Those were guys like Cole

507
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: Reagan's was in that grouping two and he finished just

508
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: a tick. I think below those guys more strikeouts, but

509
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: era a little higher in terms of where we're at.

510
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: Biggest surprises Jack Flaherty and Sean ma and Ia, I

511
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Speaker 2: think there's no doubt about that. Like two guys that

512
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Speaker 2: I don't think any of us thought could possibly put

513
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: up a full season of productivity, and both of them

514
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: absolutely did.

515
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was late to the game for Flaerty, but

516
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Speaker 1: I turned. I'd also say back to the Imanaga thing

517
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Speaker 1: real quick. I think I would. I would classify myself

518
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Speaker 1: maybe more in the wrong because I got I got

519
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Speaker 1: into this space where I was just like, hey, listen,

520
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: we need to sell I Managa because he's a two.

521
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: He was becoming a two pitch pitcher, heavy splitter in

522
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Speaker 1: a hitter friendly environment, and I think what is so

523
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: amazing about him is he overcame that and you started

524
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: seeing more of that pitch mix, and he didn't get

525
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Speaker 1: blown up into the summer months. So I would say, like,

526
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Speaker 1: like that was in the that was a mid season wrong.

527
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: Flairty was a mid season wrong kind of on my

528
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Speaker 1: part where Michael King was a big, big hit for me.

529
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Speaker 1: But I would also point out I think maybe the

530
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Speaker 1: most amazing thing finishing up the pitching stuff is that

531
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Speaker 1: there are just absolutely two unanimous sy Young winners. And

532
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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure I fully recall that all the time,

533
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Speaker 1: like Bke Barnett, like Tree Scouble and Chris Sailor are

534
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna win this in droves, and they're both incredible. I

535
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Speaker 1: think someone even put in the chat like it looks

536
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Speaker 1: like they're gonna win like triple crowns as far as

537
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Speaker 1: like pitching cadeah A Rico did it, triple crowns as

538
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Speaker 1: far as pitching go. They're so dominant it's not even funny.

539
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Speaker 1: And that's what's so interesting to have at the tippy

540
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Speaker 1: top of the board as far as pitching goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking back at the year, that was too. We

542
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: always have to talk about things we were right on,

543
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: things were wrong on Seth Lugo again for me, Jackson Merrill,

544
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: for the Welsh, like nobody was talking about Jackson Merril

545
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: the way Welsh was nobody And to see the season

546
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: he had and to that point too, I was probably

547
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: the most pro Padre person of anyone. And then all

548
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: the injuries happened and Ta Teas got hurt and all

549
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: these things and people were off the Padres. Well, guess what,

550
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: Padres won more than ninety games. I told you they

551
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Speaker 2: were gonna be a problem, and I think in the

552
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: playoffs they might be a problem too. Like that's a

553
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: team to really be concerned with because if they get hot,

554
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: they have a lot of talent and they have pitching.

555
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: That's a dangerous combination if those guys get hot in

556
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So the Phillies better be worried, the Dodgers

557
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 2: better be worried about the Padres, and I think collectively,

558
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: Jaron Duran, I think our biggest win hit for average,

559
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: hit for power. He was being drafted so late Welsh,

560
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Speaker 2: and that was a guy that you and I were

561
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: holding hands on fighting over in mock drafts, and that

562
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: turned out to be one hundred percent correct.

563
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I think we did the like our favorite

564
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Speaker 1: our must have guys I think was a video kid

565
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Speaker 1: and Duran was on there for me. Yeah, for sure.

566
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Speaker 1: I think Merrill ended up working out really well, Duran

567
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: ended up working out really well. And then I think,

568
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Speaker 1: like an inverse of it, I think it's pretty safe

569
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Speaker 1: to say, even though it's so weird, but like Carrol

570
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: was a pretty bad miss, Like Carol screwed me in

571
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: leagues because it was so bad in the beginning and

572
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: it worked its way back up funny enough, but I

573
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Speaker 1: don't it's definitely not something that you can't I would ignore.

574
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: Like Carrol was a bad, bad play for the first

575
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Speaker 1: half of the year. Luckily he did fix that. But yeah,

576
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Speaker 1: as good as like Duran and Merrill were, it's funny

577
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: that they're all like outfielders, like those were all kind

578
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: of like the thing we were really able to hone

579
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Speaker 1: in on. But yeah, rookies in general too, Rookies were

580
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Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of a miss to start,

581
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Speaker 1: but then at the end of the day, like even

582
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: though Wyatt Langford could have been a miss. He's put

583
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Speaker 1: up a pretty dang good season like fifteen to twenty

584
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: Jackson Curio is a twenty twenty season that has been

585
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Speaker 1: a huge win. And then maybe camon Aro ever getting

586
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Speaker 1: the call up that didn't really.

587
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: Work out and the rookie luckies, No it did not

588
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: cam and Aro by the way.

589
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Speaker 1: Caminaro Junior.

590
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't know kemm and Arrow Junior Caminaro. So there

591
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: you have it. Also, looking ahead to the future, as

592
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Speaker 2: we like to do here, we will be Welsh and I.

593
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: We be working on the Black Book, as we talked about,

594
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: so that'll be out there on Amazon. Usually mid December

595
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: is when that releases before Christmas, so it's the holiday

596
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: present for everybody out there. So that'll be up so

597
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: you can get ahead of your best ball drafts and

598
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: just have some kind of baseball stuff. But also early

599
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four first round, Welsh put this together, which

600
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: is super fun. Otani going first, Judge, Bobby Wit three,

601
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: Josey Ramirez for love all this, Gunner Henderson five, Ellie

602
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: de la Cruz six, Jan Soto seven, A Kunya eight.

603
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: I think Acuni will be ready right big basically at

604
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Speaker 2: the start of the season. I wonder if that knee

605
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: was bothering him earlier in the year two and that's

606
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Speaker 2: why the performance was down Welsh, do you suspect that

607
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: might be the case as well? Before I think stopped

608
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: for him literally, yeah, yeah, I think so, Yeah, I

609
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: kind of get that feeling as well. Then after that,

610
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: Mookie bets Corbyn Carrol then Scooble and schemes. Hard to

611
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: argue with that. I don't like pictures in the first round,

612
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: you know that, But if you're gonna put two pictures

613
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: in the first round, that's certainly a way to go.

614
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: So who are the guys that just kind of missed

615
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: that first round? Just kind of blasting through the guys

616
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: like Vlad Guerrero obviously won, Marcelo Zuna who had a

617
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: great season thirty nine home runs, one hundred rbi. Looking

618
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: back up there, Alvarez just missing as well. Could tell

619
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: Marte to another great season for him thirty five bombs

620
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: to ninety four. That's a guy that just missed this

621
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Speaker 2: first round. How about Lindor too. Lindor was another one

622
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: of these guys too. I kept talking about all off season,

623
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: why are we suppressing the value of a thirty thirty guy,

624
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: Well guess what thirty thirty basically thirty one home runs,

625
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 2: twenty seven steals, a pretty great season from Lindor. Who

626
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: else stands out to you as guys that are just

627
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: around that first round conversation? And obviously Bryce Harper, I

628
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: don't know if you want to put Corey Seger in

629
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: that conversation too, potentially, or even Manny Machado another thirty

630
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: one hundred season for him with some steals.

631
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Speaker 1: So something we did on in this league for a

632
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: couple episodes was we were taking a look at what

633
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: the talent for a round is. And it wasn't about

634
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: filling out. It was like who's worthy of first round?

635
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: Who is in that tier that's first round? Who's the

636
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: second round? Da da da da do that? So the

637
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: reason I mentioned this is Otani Judge. And by the way,

638
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: if you want to move the order, like you could

639
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: definitely argue Ellie over Gunner, Henderson and stuff, but I

640
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: went Otani Judge, Wit Jose Amiraz, Gunner, Ellie Soto, Akunya Betts.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop there. That's nine. That's a tier. That's a

642
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Speaker 1: tier of type of players. Now maybe there's tiers within

643
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: those tiers, like having Otani judge, you know, that might

644
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: be uniquely itself, having then Wit or Josier Amiraz is itself.

645
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: But my point is is like I don't think those

646
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: guys are really crazy debatable, But then those bottom three

647
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I put in there. It is debatable. Corbyn Carroll hit

648
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: two thirty two. He might not belong in there. I

649
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: put him in there because he's a twenty thirty guy,

650
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: had the fifth most runs in baseball and he's stunk

651
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: with average and that will fix. And then you put

652
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: in elite pitchers. But the goofy thing is is I

653
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: put Skeens in over Sale, and Sale wasn't in there,

654
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: So I put Terry Skuble and Paul Skeens in. Oh,

655
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: those bottom three of the arguments. So who are the

656
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: guys that you could throw in Chris Sale if you're

657
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: in a fifteen team roto again, Scooball and Sales seasons

658
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: were so dominant at a level that's unheard of. You

659
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: can justify. And I don't like high pitching as well,

660
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: but pitching was so high end dominant that it might

661
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: be this might be a year that it's worth paying

662
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: for one of those top three pitchers, because there's so

663
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: much better than the rest. You mentioned Francisco Lindor. If

664
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Speaker 1: someone wanted to say, I want Lindor over Carrol, I

665
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Speaker 1: think that absolutely works. I think Colio Rodriguez is one

666
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: of those people might be getting kind of sick of it,

667
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: but it's still twenty twenty. If he gets some more support,

668
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: he's one of the most talented players in baseball. I

669
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: think Trey Turner too. Trey Turner missed some time. If

670
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: he had played a full season, you would have saw

671
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: some big, big stats with stolen bases that are out there.

672
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Speaker 2: And then you mentioned it if Royce Lewis played a

673
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Speaker 2: full season.

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Speaker 1: Two Yeah, if Royce played a full season and the

675
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Speaker 1: power was there, maybe.

676
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: Back Centurio for you know, a whole good half two

677
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Speaker 2: haves of baseball.

678
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, guys out there, how I'd done

679
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: this as a fifteen team Roto. I think it would

680
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: have just been easier. I just put Sale, put Lindor,

681
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: put Julio, call it a day. There's your fifteen. I

682
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: think that, for the most part, is what the twenty

683
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: twenty five first round is going to look like. But

684
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the best thing is right here on the channel, we're

685
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna be breaking down early mock rookies for next year,

686
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: what the first round looks like, targets, all that stuff

687
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: way before we've ever done before, and we'll start digging

688
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: into that early stuff. But I'd be curious if anybody

689
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: you know out there you can put it in the

690
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: YouTube comments below, is there someone that so dramatically needs

691
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: to be in over another guy, because I will tell

692
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: you schemes dramatically well, but like Carol at two thirty two,

693
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a homer. I'll totally listen

694
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: to knocking him out. And also, like Skeens as a rookie,

695
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Speaker 1: I think even though it was one of the most

696
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Speaker 1: dominant pitching performances from rookie ever, it's still kind of

697
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: a question for a young guy to be drafted that OUI.

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00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: It's still kind of mid So I understand Carol there, Lindor,

699
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: I think is the one you have the best argument.

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00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Duran and Meryl we left off there as well, like

701
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: those guys up these huge seasons.

702
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: Well they got to do it. They got to, you know,

703
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: to be a first round pick. That's why it was

704
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: really it was lofty to put Carrol after one year

705
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: top five, and it was something that I struggled with,

706
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: Like I like video game numbers. It were, but like again,

707
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 2: you do it more than once. You have my attention

708
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: as like a better investment. Speaking of investments, our best

709
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: investments of the year Showy Altani for me at four

710
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: to one MVP. The only problem was I put it

711
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: with everything else that got destroyed. I put it with

712
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: a Kodia, I put it with Strider, I put it

713
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: with all these other things, and I lit money on fire.

714
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: This is the first year that I would say in

715
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: the futures market, I was not profitable after three straight

716
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: years of just absolutely crushing it. So unfortunates as circumstances

717
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: injuries really hurt me there. But I think I've learned

718
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: a lot ready to get back for twenty twenty five,

719
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: and I think the approach of twenty twenty five is

720
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: going to be much more individualized. We were putting a

721
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: lot of fun things together and the more variance you had, Unfortunately,

722
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: even if you had just one other player, it could

723
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: really crush a lot of the bets you have. Welsh,

724
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Speaker 2: what was the best and the worst of betting for you?

725
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you too. Actually, I think like the

726
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: rookie market's going to be really fascinating last year or

727
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: next year. I would say the best bet could be

728
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: that I have and I have this awesome card that's

729
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: inscribed by said player that you're going to get to

730
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: see soon. But I don't know if it's ever gonna matter.

731
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Speaker 1: My best bet would be Jackson Merrill. I bet him

732
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: preseason plus seventeen hundred for Rookie of the Year. He

733
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: has been the favorite for the last month. The odds

734
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: have now moved in favor for Paul Skeins because just

735
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: the ridiculous season. But Merril is plus one ten. But

736
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Speaker 1: the best bet I did on Betting Pros. You and

737
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: I did a show on Betting Pros of the best

738
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: bets for future market, and I said on the show,

739
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: my favorite bet of the year was Elie de la

740
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: Cruz to lead the league in stolen bases at plus

741
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: six hundred. I did bet that. I obviously cashing that

742
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: and this, and you know I don't.

743
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: He'll be the heavy favorite next year, like probably two

744
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: or three.

745
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: It'll be like a minus money. It'll be probably minus.

746
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: It'll be minus no. Because baseball is such a long season,

747
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: and there's other guys that are in the forties. I

748
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: think it'll be. If I was setting it, I would

749
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: sit at it like plus two ten.

750
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say I don't do as much future market

751
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: betting as you do. This is my biggest most profitable year.

752
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: And if Marilyn's Rookie of the Year, it's not even close.

753
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: I already cash like my diamondbacks over.

754
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: When time bad, you're good. If you're bad, I'm good.

755
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: That's the balance the Yin and the Yank carry has

756
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: been leading off the success of the program. Is that

757
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: so well? Uh? You know that was kind of a

758
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: look into the future, a look back at this year.

759
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: A tremendous year of growth for our channel here and

760
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: our podcast. So again, thank you to everybody for hanging

761
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: out with us. Sorry I have to go away in

762
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: August and September, but.

763
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, yeah, like it didn't.

764
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 2: We have a great team here, and it's a great

765
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: team between Mayor Wonky Penguin, uh, the two of us,

766
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: a Rico Casey, Bubba Cross and someoneus. We have great

767
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: guests come on this year too.

768
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Bogman was here for someone based on Bodmin was here.

769
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: You know, helping out as well. So we're a team

770
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: here over at Fantasy Bros MLB and Welsh Any final

771
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: thoughts here before we close out the year. Obviously two

772
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: with the sixty home runs, it's looking like South African

773
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: G is gonna win this. Yeah, so Lad Guerrero Junior,

774
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: that is gonna go to him.

775
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: I did reach out, and I think there was something

776
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: in the calculation so they couldn't get a graphic to us.

777
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: I will say the winner will definitely be announced in

778
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: the Discord fantasypros dot Com slash chat. But going in

779
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: to Monday, South African G had a four home run lead,

780
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: which would get him if he finishes this out. Here's

781
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: the crazy thing. I just want to throw this out.

782
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: What if Monday and they do a double head?

783
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: What if that?

784
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I guess double headers are weird for the contest, but like,

785
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: what if it came down to something like that, don't.

786
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: Oh double headers? I was gonna say the contest double headers,

787
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: let's not bring that up.

788
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know what it would happen.

789
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: Another good question from Michael, or let's end this like

790
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: World Series predictions. Look, I'm sticking with what I had

791
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: in the beginning. I had Astros Phillies. They'll stick with

792
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: Astros Phillies. If it's Baltimore Phillies, I have that as

793
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: an investment as well, so I'll be happy to see that.

794
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 2: It'll get me back probably over to at least push

795
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: for the year if I get those two big wagers.

796
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: But I'm not going off the Phillies. I do think

797
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: the Padres are very dangerous though, like there's a partony

798
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: that wants to kind of hedge on them. But that's

799
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: where my head's at. I'm still going Phillies again. Home

800
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: field advantage is something that doesn't exist in baseball anymore,

801
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: and that place has it, and that place is Was

802
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: it a concert last night in Philadelphia? There were Phillies

803
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: shirts everywhere. This town is rabid for the Phillies. Still

804
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: your thoughts and predictions here for the World Series to

805
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: finish things out here for baseball?

806
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my predition was Yankees Phillies the whole time,

807
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stick with the Yankees. They've been dominant,

808
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: they have like the best just combo. I mean, They're

809
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: bullpen have been a little bit amp, but like Luke

810
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: Weavers really stepped up their rotation. I think Luis Heel

811
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: stepping up into the playoffs would be huge, and their

812
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: offense is obviously just like ridiculous. So I love the Yankees.

813
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, though, I'm with you on the Padres.

814
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: I think the Padres are a menace. They are throwing

815
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: out Michael King cease, They've got Musk Grove back, Darvish

816
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: is back, and they have one of the best bullpens.

817
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Off of the trade deadline. I would not be shocked

818
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: if the Padres start kind of jumping out there and

819
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: getting some crazy momentum and they end up moving in.

820
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: So Padres Yankees World series would not shock me. But

821
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: I'll stick with my original one. And by the way,

822
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: I've always had gray hair. Jacob's saying, when did Welsh

823
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: have gray hair? I've always had this little like it's

824
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of a rose. Yeah, I wear a hat a lot,

825
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: but also it is kind of like my rogue streak,

826
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: where I have like a little bit of a white.

827
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: But I think this season gave me some great hair too.

828
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

829
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: Man, What can I say?

830
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: There you go, there, you go. Well, look, man, it's

831
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: been a great season. I'm so proud of this channel,

832
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: the work we've done, and people said nobody would watch

833
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: baseball stuff, Well, guess what they're wrong. You all did

834
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: all season long. So shout out to all of you,

835
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: and again we're not going anywhere. It's going to be

836
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 2: more fun stuff too. Welsh's breakdown of that rookie class

837
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: is still on the channel. If you miss that, go

838
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: back and watch it. It'll help you with all of

839
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: your upcoming dynasty drafts and new stuff coming up here

840
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 2: to the rookie drafts going through and your startup dynasty leagues.

841
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: Two and again. We'll be back doing probably more than

842
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: we did last year considering how successful the channel has been,

843
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: and we want to make it the number one fantasy

844
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: baseball channel, and we're not far off from making that happen.

845
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: So get in with us, hang out with us again.

846
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: Fantastic season. That'll do it for us, But the story

847
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: of the game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey

848
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: p Enjoy the playoffs everybody, and we can't wait to

849
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: see you again in the twenty twenty five season. Later, everybody,

850
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Baseball podcast.

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