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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfields, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: This is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff

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Speaker 2: where flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,

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Speaker 2: Kirk Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 3: Huh day, We are back with another episode of Hanging

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Speaker 3: with the Boys. With the live look at the Tostitos

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Speaker 3: it is currently forty four degrees. A little cloudy sky

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Speaker 3: highest today will get up to fifty four degrees. I

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Speaker 3: need a little sun to come back out. We don't

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Speaker 3: have no sun in the forecast. You know, these gloomy days,

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Speaker 3: they be down a little bit. It feels gloomy outside.

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Speaker 3: It feels gloomy in the cow Boys facilities. This is

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Speaker 3: Kurt Daniels. He is Nate Newton. In the back is

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Speaker 3: Chris being keeping us up and live. I am Jesse Holly.

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Speaker 3: Together we make Hanging with the Boys the sports talk

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Speaker 4: I'm through brop as been up through gloomy at all.

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Speaker 3: Our segment, our show is always brought to you by

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Speaker 3: Wingstop what flavor gets his?

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Speaker 4: You know, wings, I ain't seen it? We wait where yet? Cook?

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Speaker 4: Where you at? Dak?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Fellas?

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Speaker 5: How's your mentals?

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Speaker 4: Howd you dentals in place? Brood to see you? I mean,

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Speaker 4: we gotta round ourselves up, me and you, Chris, I know,

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Speaker 4: I know, Shannon, we gotta you know, we gotta gather ourselves.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Chris, be what's going on

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Speaker 5: back there? Man? How your mentals and dentals?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 6: We're doing Man, We're just craking out podcasts once a day.

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Speaker 6: It's like a freight train that just goes and goes

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Speaker 6: in there wall.

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Speaker 3: That must be cool for you because you don't have

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Speaker 3: as much work throughout the day.

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Speaker 6: I went down to the training table yesterday and the

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Speaker 6: ladies like, would you like it to go or you're

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Speaker 6: gonna need to hear, And for the first time in

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Speaker 6: about a year, I said, all you need to hear.

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Speaker 4: What you said?

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Speaker 3: You went down to the to the training to the

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Speaker 3: training room. I thought you was the training tables, though

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Speaker 3: I know I thought you were saying, you go down

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Speaker 3: to get in the workouts that you have some time.

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Speaker 6: See if someone was on time today, they probably could

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Speaker 6: have got breakfast.

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Speaker 5: No, I would have got break I'm still fasted.

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Speaker 3: I'm still a couple of shakes down there for they

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Speaker 3: probably do all right. Man, a lot to get into.

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Speaker 3: We got some family affair situation. Where do the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: go next? What the future looks like for the Dallas Cowboys?

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Speaker 4: How can this.

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Speaker 3: Team improve in twenty twenty four flash five? But I

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Speaker 3: don't think we talked about this ship. I think while

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Speaker 3: we were away, the Cowboys came to a decision and

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Speaker 3: they said, old.

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Speaker 5: Freaking Mike's coming back back.

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Speaker 3: Said Micha McCarthy, you're gonna come back for the final

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Speaker 3: year of your contract. We go, as the young people say,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna run this thing back. We're gonna spend the

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Speaker 3: block and run this thing back one more time.

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Speaker 5: So here's what I want to know. Both of you.

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Speaker 5: Give me a pro and a con of bringing.

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy back as your head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: A pro and a con. I'm gonna start with Kurt first.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a minute to think I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: I got to pros a pro and the con well,

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Speaker 7: you keep that continuity, continuous whatever.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, he is a writer, by the way.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a speaker, though, write it out.

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Speaker 4: I'm okay.

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Speaker 8: But they keep you know, they're building the Texas Coast

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Speaker 8: offense and they kind of keep that offensive side of

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Speaker 8: you know. So hopefully that's a good thing, especially with

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Speaker 3: That if you don't feel like there's a con and

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Speaker 3: you don't have to say a comedy.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I mean the con is well, it's

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Speaker 8: just you know, you're he's selling the fan base on

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Speaker 8: a one year you know, he's got one year left,

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Speaker 8: and you know you've got to think that, you know,

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Speaker 8: looking at it right now, the odds of him returning is,

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Speaker 8: just won't face what's what's ahead. So you know it's

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Speaker 8: better to boy, rip off the band aid and start

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Speaker 4: So I'm with you, may another year for him and

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Speaker 4: Dak to build. So when they get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: they can have a better situation, you know, so he'll

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Speaker 4: you know, we won't have to worry about a slow

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Speaker 4: start next year because Dak will understand this offense. Things

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Speaker 4: will roll and things will click, you know, so as

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Speaker 4: long as we do some minor adjustments. But you'll probably

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Speaker 4: get to that. And my con is this right here,

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Speaker 4: will the players truly respond? This is? This is what

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Speaker 4: bothers me is. We did a pregame show and we

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Speaker 4: had Stephen Jones and I think we spoke on this.

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Speaker 4: We had him here and we were sitting right next

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Speaker 4: to him and he said, the players said, we love

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Speaker 4: Mike in the way he prepares us. This is the CEO.

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Speaker 4: You heard the coach saying, Hey, this is not about me,

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Speaker 4: this is about the players. The players are relatively silent

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Speaker 4: the whole week. We're getting prepared for green Bay, no

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Speaker 4: mistake about it. We're getting prepared for green Bay. So

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Speaker 4: with all of that, are they and listening to Mic?

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Speaker 4: That is my coun And maybe it's a pro, maybe

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Speaker 4: it's gun. Are they really gonna understand? You don't? It

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Speaker 4: don't matter next year? And Jesse, I'll be rap me

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Speaker 4: on me. You'll be on the same train. You'll be

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Speaker 4: the komboost pushing it. We don't want to hear your

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Speaker 4: that's my space.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think we're all kind of in the same circle

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Speaker 3: And if you moved away from him, you were essentially

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Speaker 3: same message, right, like like your message is the same

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Speaker 3: And I know people are going to say that because Mike.

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Speaker 3: One of his messages was that we have a championship program,

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Speaker 3: we just haven't supplied the championships yet. People didn't like that,

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Speaker 3: But I do think there is something to be said

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Speaker 3: the rest of everything else that's on there.

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Speaker 5: I think the con is for me is when you

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Speaker 3: Guy on a one year deal, like do you get

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Speaker 3: and things don't start off you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 5: Now where's my attention? Am I am? I looking over

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Speaker 3: It's on college I like, I'm mighty jump into like

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Speaker 5: Because that's the that's the issue with.

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Speaker 3: Being an assistant You're always tied and your job security

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Speaker 5: So when they go most of the time, you go.

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Speaker 3: So in the off season and as we're preparing for

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Speaker 3: all of this is where are the focus of the people?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Where is everyone's focus at?

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Speaker 3: And I think that can be a con because now

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Speaker 3: you know what, coach, you only got a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: Basically you're sitting on one year deal. So what you're saying,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be here. Do I have to listen to you?

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Speaker 8: I wondered about that if as players, you know, they

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Speaker 4: It is? But not every coach, these guys when you

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Speaker 4: this is what I feel you you cannot, as the Joneses,

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Speaker 4: So I feel like it's right here. These guys over here,

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Speaker 4: thing is, will the players eighty eight digs Michael like, man,

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Speaker 4: come on, man, yeah, yeah, what you're gonna do? Right?

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Speaker 4: You know you got one year, bro, what you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: Like Jimmy told up one time, like I made shine

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Speaker 4: and sign my contract to y'all if y'all sign y'all.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be away after a whole lot of y'all.

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Speaker 4: You know. So I'm with you. But I don't think

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Speaker 4: because I would not want to walk into a situation

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Speaker 4: pull into this place, you you can't guarantee all them wins.

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Speaker 4: That ain't gonna work no more. MacArthur and did three

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Speaker 4: twelve and fives. You're gonna have to offer these fans

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Speaker 4: and mister Jones them the great market that they are,

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Speaker 4: knowing that we can't sell. We guarantee you twelve and

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Speaker 4: that anyway. That's what the fans are believe or not.

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Speaker 4: We can get that anyway. They want two things. The

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Speaker 4: No pretty difficult difficult.

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Speaker 3: It's a difficult schedule next year, right, and if trend continues,

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Speaker 5: Whether that be home allway.

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Speaker 3: So when you look at that, you think, boy, if

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about the thing and getting a little rocky

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Speaker 3: Do players start now, because that's what happened with Wade

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Speaker 4: The elevator kind of was burning up and down going

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Speaker 3: When we come back, a little bit of family drama,

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Speaker 3: On this Wednesday hump Day edition, we continue to break

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Speaker 3: As the World turned you talk about a soap opera,

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Speaker 4: My grandmother's the world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as the World turns that my grandmother and my

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Speaker 4: To watch.

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Speaker 4: All my children, his.

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Speaker 5: Name was Jesse.

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Speaker 3: He was a tall, dark and handsome brother, and my

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Speaker 5: Him and named me Jesse after him.

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Speaker 3: But as the drama continues, I was named after a

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Speaker 5: City Lambs. His mother had a litany of Facebook post

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Speaker 14: Looked at it, uh and went on and I'm paraphrasing here,

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Speaker 3: There's people out there, uh huh, go to Houston. There

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Speaker 3: We're gonna win a ring and if you ain't really

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Speaker 5: And he's saying, if.

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Speaker 3: It was up to me, if it was my choice,

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Speaker 3: Y'all don't deserve him. He's better than this d D

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Speaker 3: are kind of trying to sabotage my brother, playing him

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Speaker 5: You know, plass.

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Speaker 3: He needs to be playing to get the money that

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Speaker 3: have you played in this league and been around this

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Speaker 3: that was watching this thing. Now, you didn't grow up

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Speaker 4: You know what? And I'm being brutally honest. I can

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Speaker 3: Respect, because were always gonna respect people's relatives, especially.

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Speaker 4: The momk Yes, brother, I love my mom and she

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Speaker 4: And man, Cede Lamb. He know me. I call CD

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Speaker 4: sometimes I got a little contact and see CD. Please,

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Speaker 4: brothers out there, Dak, we don't need it. Man. This

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Speaker 4: is a very delicate twelve and five team. It's delicate

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Speaker 4: right now. All of you will receive your money. I

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Speaker 7: No, no, no.

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Speaker 4: The reason the reason I'm doing that because we have

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Speaker 4: I know what I said, and I'm writing what I'm saying. Uh,

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Speaker 4: calm down. We're all a little tender right now. Just

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Speaker 4: that's why I'm saying, protect your, protect you and yours.

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Speaker 4: But now if you don't care, that's yeah, we'll we'll.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's what generates our show, just stype content.

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Speaker 8: I guess the underlying question, the assumption that everybody has

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Speaker 3: Whether it's true or not. Because of the close proximity,

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Speaker 5: And then the same thing with Micah.

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Speaker 3: And then Micah, you know, to his credit, and I

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Speaker 5: Basically, the post said, Terrence is terrence. I'm Micah.

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Speaker 3: What he says does not it is not what I

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Speaker 3: which is hard, Which is very hard because I said

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Speaker 3: this on my podcast. I said, three players that are

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Speaker 3: now because I have to say to you CD, I

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Speaker 3: to you Micah. I know you didn't say it, but Michah,

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Speaker 5: So now, now.

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Speaker 3: Micah now has to go in there and ask questions

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Speaker 8: How about other teammates?

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Speaker 5: No, what I'm saying, I can guarantee you.

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Speaker 3: There are private group chats and other singular text messages

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Speaker 3: so and so said? You see what so and so said?

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Speaker 3: And again what ends up happening is losers forms and

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Speaker 11: Y'all.

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Speaker 3: Remember I kept saying, I'm like, eh, body language is

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Speaker 3: forth comments subiminately through the media, and then after a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks it was like, oh yeah, we finally

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Speaker 3: talked he and Dak and we worked it out, and

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Speaker 3: then they went on a tear But then after the

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Speaker 3: last game, the Green Bay game, kind of saw that

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Speaker 3: body language come and show his ugly head again. So, now,

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Speaker 3: how is that conversation between quarterback and star receiver. At

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Speaker 3: some point in time, they're going to have to get

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Speaker 3: together for or a throwing session, right, So I said this,

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Speaker 3: I said, as far as family members, we shouldn't we

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Speaker 3: shouldn't know your name in this capacity.

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Speaker 5: That's for sure, right, not with this kind of.

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Speaker 3: We should know you like we we shouldn't know your

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Speaker 3: name in this capacity. We should know you. Oh that

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Speaker 3: CD mom, Oh yeah, that's that's that brother. That's that's

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Speaker 3: so and so, but your name you should not be

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Speaker 3: on our show. You should not be in the mouths

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Speaker 3: of people in the media. And unless we're doing a

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Speaker 3: special story about you, or you know, you did something

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Speaker 3: that was so remarkable, we should not be talking about you.

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Speaker 3: Your name should not be in the mouths of people

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Speaker 3: in the media today.

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Speaker 5: But yet here it is.

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Speaker 3: And this is this also goes to and this I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying this is unique to any organization, but this

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Speaker 3: now goes back to that point where when it comes

463
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Speaker 3: to the Cowboys, it's always something, it's always something. It's

464
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Speaker 3: never just about football. It's never just about football. And

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Speaker 3: I said that there was a there was a historic

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Speaker 3: interview I think in the nineties. It was Minister Lewis

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Speaker 3: Farrakhan and report of Mike Wallace, and I said, the

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Speaker 3: best thing, because I'm trying to be respectful, the best

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Speaker 3: thing that I take from that from that particular quote

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Speaker 5: I think you should keep quiet. That's how I feel

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Speaker 5: about the family members.

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Speaker 3: He said, I think you should keep quiet, And that's

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Speaker 3: how I feel I feel family members, brothers, mothers, wives, siblings.

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Speaker 3: I think you especially on matters of organizational and team member.

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Speaker 3: You could be a fan and say, oh, what a

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Speaker 3: horrible call, Oh that was a bad play all we

479
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Speaker 3: have to do.

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Speaker 5: I'm fine with that. But when you start.

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Speaker 3: Singling out the people who sign the checks and the

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Speaker 3: teammates that these players have to deal with on a

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Speaker 3: regular basis.

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Speaker 5: I think you should keep one man. That's where it

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Speaker 5: can get. That's what we're gonna make it worse. It's

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Speaker 5: only gonna make it worse. Chris, do we have time

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Speaker 5: for another segment? Or we end in here?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 4: You can go, we can go.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick break and let's come

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Speaker 3: back and then we'll we'll we'll end this thing and

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys.

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Speaker 3: As we get into our third and final segment of

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Speaker 5: For join us.

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Speaker 3: We always appreciate you being here on this kind of

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Speaker 3: dreary hump day. I hope that we bring a little

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Speaker 3: bit of joy and excitement.

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Speaker 4: Probably bring in family matters.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know what, I think I think our

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Speaker 3: listeners relate to that. Maybe not on a magnitude where

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Speaker 3: your family's tweets and Facebook posts get put on national media.

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Speaker 3: But we got some family members that we we we

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Speaker 3: we we are well versed shown. We got people from

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Speaker 3: all over, from the real Grand Valley to the West coast,

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Speaker 3: to Iowa to Idahoa, New to Kuwait. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: we got we got, we got our boy in France.

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Speaker 5: Family drama happens everywhere.

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Speaker 3: There's somebody somewhere who's like, Mama, why you go and

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Speaker 3: tell Auntie so and so and so and so.

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Speaker 5: I told you don't tell nobody or that somebody.

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Speaker 3: Said, dad, man, why you gonna tell Grandpa that?

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Speaker 5: So it's family drama all the way around. This is

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Speaker 5: a part of the thing.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we just can't have it and the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys spectrum.

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Speaker 5: All right, So now that we are.

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Speaker 3: Well until the off feasing for the Cowboys, thought we

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Speaker 3: were we thought that this would be the week we

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Speaker 3: should be previewing the.

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Speaker 5: Game right now. We should be.

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Speaker 4: Podcast preview some game this weekend. They won't.

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Speaker 5: They just won't.

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Speaker 3: But today we're bringing down somebody's offense and somebody.

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Speaker 4: But going forward, we would be going to the Boom

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Speaker 4: Bock Boys. If we did our job, we'll be rocking

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Speaker 4: against them Boom bock Boys. This week lost, but hey here,

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Speaker 4: no one if we'd have got that fun.

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Speaker 3: You know, one of the things I'm always fortunate and

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Speaker 3: grateful for is the people that we have on this.

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Speaker 5: Show, and and and Nate.

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Speaker 3: This next topic kind of really lends to your expertise

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Speaker 3: because you lived it, you are you were an integral

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Speaker 3: part of it. And I think one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: things that the fan band fan base gets so upset

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Speaker 3: about today is it's always referenced back right, Jerry Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Johnson got elected to the to the Cowboy Ring of

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Speaker 3: Honor this year, and we can we can't ever stop

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Speaker 3: talking about but the nineties, but the nineties, but the nineties,

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Speaker 3: And you know, even Dak Prescott in a losing press

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Speaker 3: conference he talked about, you know, championship is the standard,

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Speaker 3: and I don't like it was the standard. You know,

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Speaker 3: you ain't cut from that cloth. You guys aren't cut

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Speaker 3: from that championship cloth. Mike McCarthy and his and his uh,

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Speaker 3: press are talked about we have championship, we have a

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Speaker 3: championship organization, championship program, but we just haven't brought the

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Speaker 3: championships yet. So there's this there's this constant trying to

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Speaker 3: to to to scale this ladder of championship legacy and prestige.

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Speaker 3: Are the Cowboys because you're the championship prestige that they're

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Speaker 3: trying to chase. You're the ghost that has consistently haunted

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys for thirty years, like you're the.

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Speaker 4: Boogeyman, like they like them cowboys before us, Drewdien hunted us. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: my first three or four years, they haunted us bad. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Will the Cowboys ever? That's a story topic right there

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Speaker 3: right there. That's just to write that.

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Speaker 4: Down call the Lomas Brown. But let me say this

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Speaker 4: right quick. We go ahead on finishing, but write that

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Speaker 4: down the stories.

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Speaker 3: For you right there, the chasing of the ghost, the Boogeyman,

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Speaker 3: your team, I'm gonna tell you, your team are the boogeymen,

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Speaker 3: like you're the ghost that they keep chasing. Are the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys ever going to be able to live up to

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Speaker 3: that level of greatness?

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Speaker 5: And should they even try.

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Speaker 4: To the thing that I press people is I listened

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Speaker 4: to Lomus Brown of the Detroit Lions, the radio voice

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Speaker 4: of the Detroit Lions, and the stories he told for

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Speaker 4: the last thirty years that was the last time they

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Speaker 4: was in the NFC Championship game, and the stories he

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Speaker 4: was telling, and I'm like, I think I would like

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Speaker 4: these stories here or what we talking about? Can they

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Speaker 4: live up because it's still fresh enough. It hurts these

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Speaker 4: players and it hurts our fans. But listen to lomers

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Speaker 4: Brown on the other side of that. I listened to

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Speaker 4: him on the NFL radio and it was so bad

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Speaker 4: almost turned it off, you know, because they had nothing

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Speaker 4: to even live up to for thirty years. Now we're

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Speaker 4: in that thirty year cycle too. But these cowboys don't

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Speaker 4: even know Michael Parsons. When I walked to Michael Parson, Hey,

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Speaker 4: how you doing, they knew, oh yeah, And I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, I played Da da da. These kids don't

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Speaker 4: know our fans know our fans lived. These kids don't

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Speaker 4: even care. They want to get something on their on now.

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Speaker 4: The reason this thing is even like that is because

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Speaker 4: no coaches came in and wanted to start over. They

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Speaker 4: continue the mantra Hey the Cowboys, the the the the

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Speaker 4: the history, the patritry. Me, Jesse, I want to start over.

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Speaker 4: I really do. Because until you start over and earn

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Speaker 4: the right, you get what you get, you're gonna get

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Speaker 4: beat over the head. You're gonna get compared to guys

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Speaker 4: that you came hold of, and I will take it

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Speaker 4: how you want. You came hold of candle too. Some

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Speaker 4: of these guys over there can't hold a candle talk

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Speaker 4: that talk to what we accomplished in the nineties. What

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Speaker 4: good is a twelve and five season and you didn't

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Speaker 4: can even get the NFC Championship game. It don't add up,

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Speaker 4: it don't it don't Who cares? The bottom line is

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Speaker 4: this right here? Start over? Uh, Jason Arrett. You have

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Speaker 4: some good intentions when you say every year I try

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Speaker 4: to start to teach you guys how to tie their

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Speaker 4: shoes and then little Jo on my pant Yeah, all

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Speaker 4: that John Wood and stuff. The bottom line is you

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Speaker 4: got your players thinking of something They ain't you know

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Speaker 4: what was what seize everything? What was the carpe omnia?

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Speaker 4: And I ain't trying to be funny, but what were

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Speaker 4: you trying to seize? I never said anything because I

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Speaker 4: was not gonna take away from the momentum that this

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Speaker 4: team was trying to build. But I will ask you

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Speaker 4: now that the season is over, what was the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: trying to seize the ghost? Yes, the ghost, that's that's it.

656
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 8: From a fan perspective, Kurt like, Yeah, I mean I

657
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 8: wonder if there is it even possible to start with.

658
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 8: I mean, we hear this all the time about this.

659
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 8: We're a different team. We weren't around then. Those ghosts

660
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 8: don't lay on you know, they don't hold us because

661
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 8: we're all new. We're doing our own thing. But I mean,

662
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 8: every you walk down these halls, every day, you're reminded,

663
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 8: you walk turn on the radio, you're reminded. Everything run

664
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 8: into your minded. I don't see how they can avoid it.

665
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 8: I mean that, I'm sure some guys handled it better

666
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 8: than others.

667
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: Well, we walked through that same gallery just about when

668
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: we was we saw you know. Yeah, the thing is,

669
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: how about a matra of less less builds day by day.

670
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 4: Let's find some perfect Greek word that means that, you know,

671
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: by the end of the year, this is where we

672
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: want to be. You first of all, you got to

673
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 4: get the right players. You got to have enough dog

674
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: that don't care where they play at, what's the situation,

675
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: what's the weather, and you gotta go play. Every game

676
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: can't depend on every big game, can't depend on the coach,

677
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: even though he's a great part of it. Every big

678
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: game can't be about the coach.

679
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: And your best players can't show empty in those in

680
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: those big games.

681
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: That's the other side of it.

682
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: Though, and that's why the goals is gonna stay there. Yeah.

683
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 8: Are the players feeling the pressure or are they feeling

684
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 8: the entitlement where they.

685
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: They they're entitled that part of it, and Jesse you

686
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 4: may think different today. This is this is this is

687
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: what even a free agent, that last free agent signed,

688
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: the last free agent rookie that signed to a contract

689
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys after the draft, as soon as you

690
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: see him, his chest's gonna be this big mm hmm.

691
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 4: That that just comes with the star. That comes with

692
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: the star. But now how you earn that and continue

693
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: to earn that is a different thing. The first thing

694
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: y'all heard me say when we started talking about dron Bland,

695
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 4: I said, y'all, wow, I hope we don't get to him,

696
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: meaning us the media, those ghosts. I hope he continue

697
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: to work on his technique. I hope he become a

698
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 4: better jam player. I hope you become a better technician

699
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: and he can make plays and he can do that.

700
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: But get day in day out that every day. That's

701
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: gonna get you past when a player is greater than

702
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: you your technique, knowing way to help it. Well, time

703
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: went on when we see yeah.

704
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: It goes to get you, bro, I think there is

705
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 5: a level of entitlement.

706
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it comes, man, I do.

707
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 5: I do think it's almost it is. It is the aura.

708
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 5: It is the.

709
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: It is the bubble that Jerry Jones built, right like

710
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: he has built this bubble and when you step into

711
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: it because of the America's team. And I've said it

712
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 3: on this show and I there's nobody who is more

713
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: honest about what they were as an NFL football player

714
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: than me.

715
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 5: And I've said it on a countless number of times.

716
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: Who the hell was I to go off and make

717
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: forty forty five fifty thousand dollars in the off season

718
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: because everybody wanted to be a part of something.

719
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: Yes, sir.

720
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: Still to this day, there are some times what I

721
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: lead in with if I need to get something across

722
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: somebody deaf phone call returned. I lead in with Hey,

723
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: how you doing this is? This is Jesse Holly, former

724
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: Dallas Capital Wide receiver. Focus returned gets returned, Text gets

725
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: return email gets returned.

726
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: Even if nothing come of it, it gets return It

727
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 4: gets returned.

728
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Yes, right, I get endoors because of that. And so

729
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: there has been this aura that has been developed and

730
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: grown off of the backs and the shoulders of.

731
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: And then Yes, but I think the distinct.

732
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: Difference is and and Nate, you were I'm gonna give

733
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: you your pack on the back for this because you have

734
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: been on this for the longest. You said it on

735
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 3: our show, you said it on my podcast. The mental

736
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: toughness of the players of those times were far greater

737
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: than it is of the players of these times. Because

738
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: we've heard all about the Michael Irvin escapades. Yes, but

739
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: we've also heard about Mike was the first one in

740
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: the building. We also heard that Mike was the last

741
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: one to leave. So when your best players are giving

742
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: and putting in their absolute best effort, and that is

743
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: the standard, right when you talked about every single day

744
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: I went up against Charss Haley, Leon led I had

745
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: Dion on the other side going against Michael Irvin, and

746
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: there was never a letup.

747
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 5: There was never take it easy, prom take it easy.

748
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: Eight eight them tired today, you know what I mean?

749
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: There was never.

750
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: There was never when you had when you had Ken

751
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: Norton or Kenny Kenny Ganton and EMT Smith.

752
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: No, we listen as we go line. Now we ain't

753
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: taking it easy.

754
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to knock your head off because you'renna

755
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: try to knock my head off. But it's that iron

756
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: that sharpens iron. And I do think on this, you know,

757
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: when you look at when you look at Michael Parsons

758
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: and and I think he's a young talented player, I

759
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: do think he's still mature. I do think there's a

760
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: level of selfishness to him. But he's your og, like

761
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 3: he's the og of this defense. He's one of the

762
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: ogs of this football team. I'm almost willing to bet

763
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 3: any amount of money. He's not the guy staying after

764
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: on the we're out here and practice over. I never

765
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: see him out here after practice. I never see him

766
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: out there after practice working with Tyron Smith or working

767
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: with you know, the linebackers of the guys up front

768
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: get I never see it.

769
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: Never.

770
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: I highly doubt that they're staying after practice and getting

771
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: in more film reps. That's what the good teams do.

772
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: The good teams and the good players do that. That's

773
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: what those guys did. And so as long as you,

774
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: as long as you don't have football players, your best

775
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: football players not giving up and sacrificing even more for

776
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: the team, not for self, for the team, you will

777
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: consistently be haunted by the ghost of ninety Super Bowl

778
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 3: winning past.

779
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: The thing that we have to, the thing that I

780
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: keep telling myselves, like you know, great segment when you

781
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 4: was talking about the moms.

782
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 11: And.

783
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: Because certain things I can't grasp. I cannot grasps my

784
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: mother doing that. I cannot grasp my brother doing that.

785
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: You know I.

786
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: I me neither.

787
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: It's like, what are you? What are you saying? What

788
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: are you? What are you doing? This is my livelihood.

789
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: These are my brothers over here. What are you? What

790
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 4: are you doing? Mom?

791
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 3: My brother today? You know I haven't played in ten years.

792
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: My brother today still wouldn't do that. Neither one of

793
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: my brothers. Like my brother still only puts out positive

794
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: tweets about the Cowboys, and I'm not even sure if

795
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: he's all in as a.

796
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: Cowboy fan, right, like yeah, But the.

797
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: Fact that the matter is, He's like, well, my brother

798
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: still works for the My brother still the part of

799
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: that organization.

800
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 5: The thing that I'm not I'm not gonna mess out

801
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 5: up for him.

802
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: The thing that gets you is, uh, when has the Cowboys? What? Okay,

803
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: this is what I'm trying to say, CD gonna get paid, correct,

804
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: Michael barn injury gonna get paid? What is driving you

805
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: to say these ignorant things? What is driving you? Okay?

806
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: You say you want to win a super Bowl? It's

807
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 4: thirty two teams out there with thirty two different thousands moms.

808
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: They all want to win super Bowls. Uh. We shouldn't

809
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: be attacking our teammates. What we should be doing is

810
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: is going to our sons, our brothers, our cousins and saying, hey, man,

811
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 4: what you're doing to make sure you know and come

812
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: from that. I ain't gonna say yeah when my son is

813
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: doing this, I don't know what the rest of them doing,

814
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: but this is what you know. It's called Bill Belichick

815
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: because you did that to be that would have been

816
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: real nice and you wouldn't have heard about it. You

817
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: wouldn't heard about what he what he did. It's just

818
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: let me tell y'all something. Don't make it a out

819
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: that because I know one man and his family loved

820
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 4: some dak don't make it about that. That's that. Y'all

821
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 4: may not agree with me, but I got fifty nine

822
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: million reasons why we don't make it by that. That's

823
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: that's all.

824
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: I'm the same, all right, man, that's it for us today.

825
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: You don't want you want to.

826
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: Talk about the let's get let's give your playoff predictions

827
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 3: for this weekend.

828
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: Uh uh no, I never gonna get the Cowboys. I'm

829
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 4: NFC all the way, an NFC, a nfcn' I don't

830
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 4: care who went in the NFC because I hate all

831
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: of them. Yeah, I mean to me.

832
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 5: It's gonna become I said, Niners, Ravens, But but but

833
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 5: but what. Never underestimate the heart of a champion.

834
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: As bad as the roster has been this year for

835
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs, they found themselves in the championship game.

836
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 5: And as long as you got fifteen under center, he

837
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 5: gives you a chance.

838
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: He never know as that dog dot lamar, well, I'm

839
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 4: rooting for him. But boy, you can't test my homes man.

840
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 4: He come down a quarterback or quarterback, you.

841
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: Lose you if you're match to UMIs Patrick Mahoe.

842
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm still going to say because I want

843
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: I want this a lot for for for Lamar, I

844
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: wanted to get the Super Bowl. So I'm still going

845
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: to say Baltimore Niners and we'll get a rematch of

846
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: that slug fest.

847
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: They won't stag.

848
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 5: It was a muggy. Yeah, it was a muggy.

849
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 8: If the forty nine ers play like they did last

850
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 8: week and Debo is not in there, Lions could give

851
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 8: him a game.

852
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, I think.

853
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: I think Kyle is preparing both game plans because they

854
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: went to that game with a game plan for Debo

855
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: and then he goes out kind of throws your game

856
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: plan off a little bit. He's a force multiplier like

857
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: he changes things. So I think there will be two

858
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: game plans.

859
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: They pass and they've been giving up a lot on

860
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 4: the passing there and the defense, and I mean the

861
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions get this, ain't one team you want to

862
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: get that up on. Shanahan can make it happen. You know,

863
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: I got I got respectful bullies and you got two bullies.

864
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out who's the biggest bullet. But coach

865
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: I don't think Coach Campbell can wait and see what's

866
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 4: gonna happen with that running game. He's gonna have to

867
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 4: try to force it on them, you know. They when

868
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: you can line up, man, when you can line up

869
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: as a man and say you ain't running that ball,

870
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: you allowed of them say you boy, I got setting

871
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: the one over here.

872
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 5: We running this ball.

873
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 4: You know what, when you can hang your hat on something,

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Speaker 4: come on, man, what can the cowboys hang that? That's

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Speaker 4: our show.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, man, We missed you.

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Speaker 5: Brother, he'll be about I think he was hungover from Mexico.

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Speaker 4: Say he tried to tell you know, I called him

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Speaker 4: to man, my job kept change and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: you kept hanging over. He still yeah, Chris.

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Speaker 3: Will appreciate you with just in your life plans and

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Speaker 3: putting at least you have breakfast.

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Speaker 5: You said out have breakfast.

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Speaker 4: This man I had, boy had well, I will get.

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Speaker 5: My juice in a minute. Thank you all for listen.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you so much, and we'll be back next

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Speaker 3: week ten o'clock and nothing changes. Ten o'clock on hump

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Speaker 3: Day we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh, he the man, I'm going to break that news.

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Speaker 5: Well it's not breaking. They said, there's striking.

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Speaker 4: Distance, the man striking. This is two weeks.

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Speaker 5: This is going to the to the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: So where's Dad? Where's Dan? Queen? On that show? Vack

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Speaker 4: you with the Cowboy, glad to have you. Come on

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Speaker 4: back on Dan, come on back. Chris, get us a linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Tho we need to line see Holley man, this is

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Speaker 3: hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 5: See you guys next week.

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Speaker 4: We are come on.

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