WEBVTT - Ep. 465: Render - Mules, Bears, and the Civil War 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.120 My name is Clay Nucomb and this is a production 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.480 of the Bear Grease podcast called the Bear Grease Render 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:24.120 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.720 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast. Brought to you 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.400 by to Covi's Boots. I'm a cowboy boot man and 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.080 I've been wearing to Covis for years for the most 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.000 comfortable boot I've ever put on. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:43.320 Good boots for good times. The world wouldn't know it. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:48.639 But we are starting about fifty minutes late, okay, and 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.600 we have some very distinguished guests today, so I owe 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:58.720 them my deepest apologies. This is a complicated story, Michael, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:01.560 and so our guest day sitting in the Covi's hot 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.840 seat today is Kyle Carroll here from Missouri. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.680 Yes, Kyle is uh. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.280 It's hard to describe what you are. You're a former 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.480 former game warden. Yes, you're an artist. Yes, you're a hunter. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.959 You're just a friend of the podcast for a. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.839 Long time, just a renaissance man. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.679 Yes, yes, I have. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.319 I have listened to every podcast from the beginning. I 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:26.640 went back to the other day and made sure and 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.199 I had missed one of Lake's Turkey during the Turkey series, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:31.840 so yeah. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.560 You listened to him all yes, And and he's here 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.560 today because we are going to be talking about the 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:38.160 Civil War. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.200 So this bear grease shrender. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.360 And if you're new to the podcast, we make documentary 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.120 style episodes. We're doing a Civil War series, documentary style stuff. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.160 But the render is when we just sit around and 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.160 talk about it. And and Kyle has I think he's 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.600 got a he'll have a unique perspective on the Civil 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.840 War and knows quite a bit about it. And uh, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.840 sitting next to him them in the Takova's roller chair 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.480 is Michael Roseman. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.160 Yeah, I'm back from being fired. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:13.040 Are our our my friend from the Delta of Arkansas. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.440 And how I know Michael is I met Michael through 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.920 Britt Reeves And Michael is a coon hunting son of 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:20.280 a gun. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.760 If there was a if there was a. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.400 Bumper sticker that I can make and put on Michael's truck, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.360 That's what I would say, coon hunting son of a gun. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:33.920 You go and uh, a walker hunting walker dog, coon 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.239 hunting son of a gun. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.080 No other way to be that's. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.800 Right, You're you're not wrong. But Michael is the is 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.320 the owner of sunspot Lights. He owns his own company 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:52.400 and they build Sunspot coon lights and McCrae Arkansas and uh, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.120 it's an incredible company he and his family run and 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.800 they make the best coon lights in the world. I 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.360 mean there's some other good coon like company there are 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.959 great But anyway, we're gonna get into the light. Okay, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.760 but just hold that for a minute. We also have 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.840 Barr John Newcomb straight out of Alaska. You bet got 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.239 got home from Alaska last week, still dripping wet from 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.359 salt water from killing the bear in the. 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.799 Got back last night. Yes. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.400 And then we have doctor mister newkeom can't wait to 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.680 hear what you think about Robert E. Lee and Abraham 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.560 Lincoln Back to our story, back to our story, and 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:39.240 Josh Landbridge spillmaker Josh Lanbridge story least Nope, nope, don't. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.560 I don't introduce myself and I don't Josh me and 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.240 you the same. We're like, we're just we're just here 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.720 and that that's okay. So Kyle pulls up to the 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.520 house to the office and he goes, I saw some 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:57.640 mules back in town with lead ropes, and uh, and 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.720 I proceed to go, oh my, I bet their mind 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:07.960 and it's a convoluted story because and the theme of 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:13.160 this story is change often brings great things, but also 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:18.679 brings difficulty. Okay, think about that for a minute. Everyone, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:19.360 just stop. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.320 You can even pause your listening devices now if you 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:23.159 need to. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.520 That's a pretty profound perspective on some mules getting loose. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:27.279 Change. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.400 Change can be wonderful, but it also brings much difficulty, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.919 potentially danger and catastrophe as well. So I sold my 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.960 easy mule, Kyle, my best mule that I trained, that 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.280 I've had for all these years, that I swore I 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:49.680 was going to keep forever. I sold her, and it 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.719 was a decision that came with much. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.120 Thought, and I I there's a lot of reasons why 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.920 I did it, and I could tell you those reasons 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.080 if you're interested, but I won't for now because I 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.960 sold the mule last week and I've already got a 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.200 new mule that I bought from Evan Felker of the 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.920 Turnpike Tributors, named Laurie. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.880 Okay, you may have seen it. She's two years old, 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.320 really nice young mule that we're training. But because I 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.520 don't have a real good riding mule, I borrowed a 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.760 mule from a friend of mine in Newton County, a 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:30.320 sixteen hand beautiful mule named Hawk. And anyway, the change 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.880 is that there were two new mules on the place 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.640 and I had them out, and I was grazing them 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.440 on big lead ropes, and I purposely tied the two 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.000 new mules loose. I wanted them to get loose because 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.719 I actually didn't know how they would respond. You just 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.800 tie up a horse or a mule to a big, 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.200 long lead rope, they might get tangled up in it 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.720 and throw a fit and hurt themselves. So I knew, 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.400 slow Trap, we've got three mules. This is a long story, guys. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.440 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, you can just and drama. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.880 And slow Trap was was tied up good because I 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.120 know that when he The good thing about a mule, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.920 if they get in a bind, they often don't struggle 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.320 like a like a horse will sometimes kill itself if 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.240 it gets if in a real big bind like with 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.720 a rope. A mule rarely does that. But I didn't 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.480 know what these two new ones. Had them tied loosely. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.440 I tell I have to go into town. I tell 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.320 Bear John, hey, keep an eye on those mules. Next 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.080 thing I know I come back and Kyle's telling me 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:32.960 there's mules in town. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.080 I'm not I'm not trying to put I'm not trying 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:38.120 to point any fingers. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.640 What you left out was that I was also in 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.520 town doing stuff, and you said, are the mules? 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:44.880 Okay? 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.719 I checked, mules are all there. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:47.400 Okay. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.520 I go into town fired the mules are gone. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.080 Fair enough, This is. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.160 A good story. Did he tell you to keep an 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.800 eye on the mules or did he say are the mules? 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:57.120 Okay? 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.520 I can't remember. Let me pull the text. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.280 I said keep an eye on the mules. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:07.120 Let's see, this is one of my these two y'all. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.040 I show up and nobody's here, and the mules are fine. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:13.440 You saw the three meals. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.000 All three meals are here when I got here. 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.960 Oh wow, you check on the mules. They're all tied. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:20.440 Mules. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:21.360 Good question, Mark. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:26.200 Yes, very different, Clay, very different the way you think 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:27.120 you communicated. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.640 I'm worried that the bear gets blamed for a few 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.200 things because several years ago Clay was down hunting and 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.320 got a call that the mules were out. Okay, the 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:49.880 first time this happened, and you got the blame. Doesn't 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:51.560 ever close the gate was what I heard. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.040 Man, the problem with the mules getting out if when 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.080 when Clay first got mules. You know, we've got four kids, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.920 and once you don't close the gate, you usually learn 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.840 that lesson, Like you don't close the gate once and 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.960 you've learned that lesson. But we have four kids. They 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.120 each had to learn the lesson. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.440 Yeah, and it was. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.320 And when our mules get out, they go straight to town. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.320 They go out my driveway and turn right and go 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.080 back into the country. But they could turn left, they 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.080 could go straight to town, and so they always go 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.760 straight to town. So the mules were in somebody's backyard in 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.760 the subdivision. They came and found me and they were like, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.760 your mules are in my backyard. They were real nice, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.640 wonderful people went there. The whole neighborhood's there, the whole neighborhood. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.960 The whole neighborhood is out with their kids petting the mules. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:43.640 And then I'm in Misty's car because my truck is 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.600 somewhere else at this very moment, and Bear comes knows 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.880 where we're at. Bear comes riding up through town on 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.560 the mules and leads one of the mules. He's on 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.600 slow trap and then I lead the other mule in 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.000 the Honda CRV hybrid. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.000 Yeah, that's why it took so long. I got a 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:04.760 little bit of video. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:05.960 I got a little bit. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.640 I'm sorry we had to tell that story, but I this. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.720 I literally ran in and now see these guys that 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.160 have invited here that we have come a long ways 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.400 and we're starting late. So my deepest apologies on behalf 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.120 of bear. I would like to apologize to you guys. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.000 I almost told them to pack up and go home, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:25.120 just like. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:30.240 Call it, call it no, no, no, no, Michael. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:32.600 What do you have have? 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:33.040 Lights? 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.960 Man? This is incredible. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.720 I have a spotlight that we build that I gave 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:39.240 to Josh. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.480 How nice that is. That's an incredible light. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.559 Yes, yes, it is slick man. I'm keeping this in my. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.600 T tell me like so, it's rechargeable. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.560 Rechargeable with the USB C has this rubber grip handle. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.079 It's really bright, throws a tight beam, throws a long way. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.520 We built it for hunters to shoot with. You know, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.680 they'll line it up along side of their gun because 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.720 it's hard to shoot with, you know, turning the light 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.320 sideways on your head. But most people have bought them 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.800 for a truck light and if you get in a fight. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.720 You can kind of use it as brass knuckles. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.280 Yeah, we have this one for Clay. It's a cotton mouth. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.640 It's the light we're building right now. 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:19.160 Cool, awesome. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.920 And now I'm saying this maybe for no good reason. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.400 I bought this for Michael. He did, yes, And because 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.040 I want I mean, I didn't want him to. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.640 Give it too mad I gave that. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:31.680 That's right, that's right. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.079 And I say that only because I wanted to support 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:39.880 Michael and his business. So how what percentage of lights 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.760 are made not in America? And and and I don't know. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:49.959 I don't want to get into your business. Yes, a lot. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.280 Most of the coon hunting lights are made here. Okay, Uh, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.880 stuff you buy on Amazon that they call coon hut lights, 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.199 those are all built overseas. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.400 So describe to me your business because some of the 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.720 components of this are coming from overseas. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.240 Batteries, reflectors, that kind of thing. I can't find any here. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.400 And when you do find like a battery, you can 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.679 buy batteries here, but they're getting them from overseas anyway, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.920 they just mark them up, We design them, build them here. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.240 Everything we can get from here, and the head housing 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.800 most of those components from that thing come from local 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.840 electronics stuff stuff in Texas. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.960 Really, so you I mean you built this light like, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:24.600 so we. 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.280 Get them the heads machined. You know, all the machine 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.600 parts are done. We buy different products from different places, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.559 like the optics and the switches and the knobs, and 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:36.679 it's completely built in shop. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:42.000 Right, So you probably technically couldn't put like made in 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.960 America on it because. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.240 You could, well, I mean, then that's something to be 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.439 it is. What do you think I could? 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.560 I could put made America in there, but I kind 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.280 of I know that that works for some people, but 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.440 I kind of see it as a marketing gimmick. Really 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.240 good deal. Yeah, I just don't do it. I could, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.920 it could be put on there. I just don't, Okay. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:07.160 I respect them. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.160 Maybe weird, and I understand that it's weird, but I 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:11.920 see it all over the place, and when I see it, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.360 I'm like, you know, I know that a lot of 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.280 your stuff doesn't come from America, and you're putting it 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:17.880 on there, and I just don't want to get into it. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.559 I got you, I got you. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.480 I mean the point of me being interested in that 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.280 is that I think a lot. I think you could 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.040 go on to Amazon and probably order some big, high 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.760 powered lumin light that absolutely they. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.600 Also are bad about copying our products, not just mine, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.400 but other people that build them here. They'll order them, 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.320 get them over there, build usually not not quite that 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.240 but real close to it, and then they'll sell it 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:45.840 on Amazon. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:46.439 Yeah. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.200 But I mean you and your family are building these 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:49.240 lights in the cry and. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.320 There's four of us that work in the shop and 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.400 two of us that do piece work in everybody's family. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.320 And listen, I have I've turned Steve Vanella onto these, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.440 I've turned a lot of the mediator guys onto onto 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.240 these sunspot lights. And this is what I've always said 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.480 is that coon hunters have the market on lights. 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.120 I mean you can get you can. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:16.640 Buy some giant light that recharges and has some big 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:23.920 giant beam, but this light has is rechargeable, like hundreds 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.680 and hundreds of times you can recharge this light. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.199 And they also have all of our products carry a 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:30.079 lifetime warranty. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:31.800 Tell me what that means. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.720 So everything on there except for the hat because it's 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.080 a wear item, they wear out quick and the charger 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.679 are covered for a damage warranty. We don't any kind 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.839 of damage on there doesn't get covered, but. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.720 Like if you drive over it or something that's. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.320 To be honest with you, we cover it most time anyway. Yeah, 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:51.760 we've gotten a lot of stuff in there. It's tour 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.080 to pieces that we just fix. Is less of a 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.920 hassle for me to just fix it and send it 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.520 on then a call you and get a credit card 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.600 number and go through the whole process. Yeah. So we 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.360 cover everything, including the battery for a lifetime of that light. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.679 And what this light has if you're not familiar with 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.560 the coon light, it has a red light which uh 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.240 if you it's got a toggle switch on the on 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:15.720 the head a red light which in a for a 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.400 non coon I think there's a big market for people 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.960 having these that aren't coon hunt. I carry a sun 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.800 spotlight with me everywhere I go in the world. The 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.440 reason that I have bought this one for Michael is 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.000 because I gave mine to one of the guys in 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.960 Nunavut on the ice. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.400 Well, you took it with you, Oh, I. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.240 Sleep with it by my head, not not with a 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.360 hat on. I'll take it off so you can. You 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:44.080 can take it off. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.520 Well, i'd have to it'll come off, but it's tight. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.200 We don't want them coming off on accident. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:54.080 Yeah, I carry that with me, bohunting. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.080 It literally is almost always at the bottom of our stairs, 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:57.760 so you can just grab it. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:58.120 Yeah. 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.600 Yeah, so you can put it on a hat you 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.320 don't have, do you. A lot of times the hard 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.760 hat throws people off that aren't coon hunters. They're like, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.680 what do you mean a hard hat? That's just a 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.080 stylistic choice. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.360 Well, and it holds, it's helped support it. And I've 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.280 been hitting the head with limbs before, right, Yes, to 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.120 get a coon and falls out on you. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.240 So don't You don't have to have a headline. So 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.240 this is not I mean, it kind of is a 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:25.080 sales pitch for Michael, but I'm not that's I'm not 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.200 interested in. I mean, your friend. I just I just 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:34.480 believe in these things and carry them all over everywhere 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.200 I go. Bear Bear does too. Oh yeah, and uh 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.560 but they have different What I was gonna say was 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.680 they have the high power, which is an incredibly bright 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:49.160 it is light Michael on the lowest walking lights has 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:50.240 four different settings. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.320 How long will that burns? 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.480 The low so there is a main beam double walk 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.360 on a double red. Each light has two positions on it, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.520 all of them on low burn for one hundred hours. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.040 So if I just left that and if it were 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.400 darkened here, that lowest power is bright. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.360 Yeah, it's bright enough to walk in the woods with. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.800 Oh it' it's just not at I mean light you 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.760 can get so used high it would light up this room. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:17.400 It's a big light. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.000 If I left that on and came back burn for days, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:22.840 four days later, it would still be on. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.160 It'll dim, it'll dim as it goes, but it'll still 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:26.520 be light. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:26.800 Yeah. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.000 Yeah, so it Yeah, they're just incredible lights. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.080 So on high you get about five and a half 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.240 to six on the main beam, and the red and 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:40.360 the walk light both get around fourteen hours on high. Yeah. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.920 Yeah, Well I've kind of gone on and on about 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:48.760 this light too light, but I love them. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.760 So yeah, that's called the cotton Mouth. Yeah, Kyle, what 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:54.800 have you been up to? You've been painting any Oh? 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.040 Not as much as I should have. My bit. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.040 I had a show in April, and once I get 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.440 past that kind of going Turkey Hinton mode and you 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.399 kind of kind of get back into paint mode. And 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.320 so I've started a piece, but I'm not really. Yeah, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.639 it's maybe I don't know, eighteen by a little bit 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.840 bigger piece. It's a scene of the South Fork up 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.960 southwest of Cody, big kind of a mountain scene when 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.840 it's it's a in shadow and then there's a place 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.080 in a corner that's just catching sunlight and there's gonna 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.280 be some natives there on horseback just looking out. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.240 Over the So what inspired you? Just the scene? Just 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:32.080 when I was up there. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.320 I went up specifically a year before last to shoot 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.639 some reference stuff and so just you can you know, 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.120 sometimes it's just your imagination. Sometimes it's something you read, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.120 a history reference or something like that. But on this one, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.560 it's just cool, cool scene you know you've seen, you've 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:50.960 like we were talking about the Alaska stuff. You could 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.920 imagine Eskimos or whatever right there on that other natives, 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.320 you know. So that's that's all it is on that one. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.520 But that's I did. I did drop a painting off 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.159 in Carthage at a gallery on the way down today, 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:04.119 so I made double. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:05.840 Yeah. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.680 So there's a gallery if you're ever in Karthi's a 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.120 nice gallery. Uh, they have a Civil War museum there. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.720 So have you ever done a Civil War painting. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.679 I've done some drawings. I'm trying to think if I've 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.080 done a painting. If I if I did it, it was 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.240 a small piece, like individual type stuff. I have a 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.200 little bit of reference. I worked on a Civil War 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.000 piece film one time, and so I've got a little 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:30.679 bit of reference, you know. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.639 But I've just it's just not really my air and 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.280 to paint. It's so. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.000 It's kind of like being a doing a podcast on 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:44.400 beekeeping or trimming mule hoofs or civil war. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:45.600 You're gonna get. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.919 Some flak on any of those extly. There's a lot 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.000 of experts, That's what I'm saying. So so I just 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:51.760 I haven't done it. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:52.840 More portraits. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:57.680 I've done some portraits of like Jackson and uh, I 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.560 don't know, yah portraits. 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:06.840 Yeah, yeah, okay, so excellent. Bear you just got back 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.719 from Alaska. Do you want to give us like a 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.880 one minute, one minute rundown? Yeah, just like what you did. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:13.399 Well. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.080 The plan, the mission for going up there was to 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.040 do was to kill a bear with a self bow 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.560 from the water from the ocean in a wet suit, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.399 like you did a couple of years ago. To to 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.240 make it true, we went up there. Jannics Pitelis and 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.000 I went up there to make it true. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:33.720 Wow, who told you that. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.600 It's a climbing thing, like you gotta you gotta send 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.440 it twice else. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:41.960 Yeah, phrases that we've never heard of. 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.440 Yeah, so if you just do it once, it's like, well, 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:45.359 is it a fluke or not? 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:45.800 Yeah? 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:48.119 Yeah, yeah, so was. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:51.080 Oh wow. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.280 Yeah. So anyway, we were going up there to to 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.880