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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear,

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Speaker 1: American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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Speaker 1: to be as rugged as the place as we explore.

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Speaker 2: Brent haven't told you about my raccoon woes.

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Speaker 3: No, So.

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Speaker 2: You guys know I have two very large dogs, ye

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Speaker 2: great danes. Great Danes that eat ate a lot of

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Speaker 2: dog food. And I keep the dog food on my

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Speaker 2: back deck and I have it in a big tub

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Speaker 2: because I buy it one hundred pounds at a time

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Speaker 2: and it lasts like three weeks. I go through about

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Speaker 2: one hundred punds of dog food in about three three

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Speaker 2: and a half weeks. But I've the dog food lid

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Speaker 2: was off a few times. A couple months ago. It

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Speaker 2: was off a few times, and I'm like, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: And then I put two and two together that the

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Speaker 2: raccoons have figured out how to open up my dog

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Speaker 2: food tub. Yes, so I got a rack. So I

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Speaker 2: knew I had a raccoon because this raccoon was leaving

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Speaker 2: me a little deposit on the back deck every night too.

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Speaker 2: So so finally I got around a bar on a

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Speaker 2: live trap from a friend of ours to try to

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Speaker 2: help with things. I bought a new dog food tub

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Speaker 2: that has locking handles on the end. So I put

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Speaker 2: the live trap out, put a little bowl of dog

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Speaker 2: food in there on the you know the little deal

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Speaker 2: that that on the spring of the trap. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I my dogs. I hear them wrestling in the night

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Speaker 2: because I sleep in our room, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh man. And I had put a ring camera out

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Speaker 2: on the back porch and I was. I popped it

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Speaker 2: up and I see a pair of eyes. I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 2: I got that raccoon. And I go outside and lo

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Speaker 2: and behold, your great dane was in the trap. Lo

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Speaker 2: and behold, I got two raccoons in one trap. And

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Speaker 2: so I uh, I was like, I.

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Speaker 1: Tried, you was shopping to come in here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. They look pretty young. So that was on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: When I went out there to to to check the trap.

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Speaker 2: Those sorry suckers had flipped the handles down on the

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Speaker 2: dog food ben and they were getting in there and

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Speaker 2: getting dog food out of there first, and so I

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Speaker 2: caught him. I was like, yes, my all my problems

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Speaker 2: are solved. And till that was on Wednesday night. Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: the dog food bind is open and there's raccoon tracks

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Speaker 2: in the water bowl. I was like, are you moaning me?

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Speaker 1: There's more?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I put the trap out again last night,

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Speaker 2: and at five o'clock this morning, I hear like it

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Speaker 2: sounded like somebody's knocking on my door, like they needed

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Speaker 2: a stupor, and I'm like, what's going on? And then

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Speaker 2: I realized I got a raccoon, and I got that

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Speaker 2: other raccoon, and I got knocked on your door, knocked

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Speaker 2: on the door. So I go out to the back

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Speaker 2: Two raccoons in the track, two fruits, and not only that,

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Speaker 2: two more raccoons on the deck. Six six raccoons, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know there might be a hole, like they

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Speaker 2: may have moved in next door and I didn't know. Yes,

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Speaker 2: six raccoons, that's crazy, but catching them at.

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Speaker 1: A time, that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a dog grint.

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Speaker 2: Well, I asked Clay, I said, you need you need.

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Speaker 1: I'm coon dog poor right now?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Did y'all notice on the podcast this week Clay's chair squeaking.

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Speaker 4: People talk about it all the time. I literally gets.

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Speaker 1: On the Grease podcast. Really I need to oil this

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Speaker 1: baby up. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render mile My.

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Speaker 1: What a monumentous day we have. We have two, We

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Speaker 1: have a return get.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say reports of his death have

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Speaker 2: been largely exactly.

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Speaker 1: We have back back at the Meter South Global Headquarters.

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Speaker 3: We have Gary.

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Speaker 1: Believer nucom back back from back.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you with ions.

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Speaker 5: Good to be here. I can walk without pain now. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: man will be dangerous.

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Speaker 4: She's been spritten up and down.

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Speaker 3: A whirl out scouting for deer.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: And now I'm we'll quit hunt and start playing golf.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's tragedy, isn't it. Well, it's good to

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Speaker 5: have you back. Yes, thank you. Good to have you back.

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Speaker 5: And this is long time coming, Brent. Why don't you

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Speaker 5: introduce our guests.

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Speaker 3: To my left.

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Speaker 6: To my left is my lovely wife, Alexis Reeves, fresh

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Speaker 6: fresh from the Bozeman, Montana head North headquarters.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so good to finally be here.

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Speaker 2: You had to put yourself on someone else's podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Alexis, Alexis was on the meat Eater podcast

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Speaker 1: and uh.

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Speaker 2: And never heard of it.

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Speaker 1: She had through meat Eater before she could be allowed

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Speaker 7: That's what I've been missing all these years.

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Speaker 1: Alexis. It's great to have you. You are clearly the

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Speaker 1: best thing going on with Brent. Absolutely, and then to

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Speaker 1: my to my left, the best thing going on with me,

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Speaker 1: mister newcam And then Josh Langbridge filmmaker, Josh, Yeah, did

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Speaker 1: you did you get a chance to read that Brendia book?

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I've started on it.

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Speaker 1: Have you really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 2: Ye good, It's very interesting. It's not what I expected.

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Speaker 1: Way, we we have a lot to do on this

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Speaker 1: podcast today. First of all, I would like to to

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Speaker 1: present the reeves with some new Coom Farm apple butter. Josh, you, Christine,

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Speaker 1: that is some good apple butter. And I've already given

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Speaker 1: Juju and Dad.

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Speaker 2: That's good color.

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Speaker 1: We've had a bumper crop by apples. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: so we made apple butter, which apple butter is pretty

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Speaker 1: much cooked down apples brown sugar and butter, no butter,

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Speaker 1: no butter and uh and uh uh cinnamon and some

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Speaker 1: vanilla and a few other secret ingredients. We got a

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Speaker 1: whole whole ingredients.

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Speaker 7: But it looks very good.

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Speaker 1: It's good. It's good apple butter. You know, you can

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Speaker 1: use apple butter in a lot of different ways. I've learned.

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Speaker 1: I've been using it like a side dish, kind of

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Speaker 1: like on Thanksgiving, like cranberry sauce. Like if you're eating

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Speaker 1: meat or eggs or whatever, you can just have a

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Speaker 1: big dollar of apple butter and just use it. And

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Speaker 1: it's fantastic, fantastic. I got to introduce this. I got

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Speaker 1: permission too. This is ad around the first of September,

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Speaker 1: Phelps Game Calls is going to come out with what

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Speaker 1: they're calling the clay newcomb Achorn grunt bleat. This is

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Speaker 1: a revolutionary deer call. It is a two and one

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Speaker 1: grunt bleat, which I didn't realize. I was with Jason

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Speaker 1: Phelps in Mexico and I we were just talking about

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Speaker 1: deer calls and Phelps has a deer bleat and they

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Speaker 1: two in one call. I don't want to carry two calls.

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Speaker 1: And I love a dough bleat. I've called up so

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Speaker 1: many deer with a dough bleed, especially before the rut.

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Speaker 1: During the rut, all you hear about in deer hunting

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Speaker 1: about grunt calls. Well, I said, man, I want to

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Speaker 1: inhale exhale grunt call, and he was like, well, they

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Speaker 1: don't make any there's there isn't one. And they came

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Speaker 1: up with an incredible design. And this call is about

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Speaker 1: probably three it's probably longer than that. I was going

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Speaker 1: got a it's got a uh, it's got a a

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Speaker 1: good grunt that you can't top out. You can do

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Speaker 3: Or you can do it.

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Speaker 1: You can it doesn't peg out. A lot of cheaper

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Speaker 1: grunt calls will peg out. Blow it as hard as

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Speaker 1: you can blow it. It won't peg out. But from the

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Speaker 1: same side you can inhale a very supple dobe blue. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Can it around and blow?

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Speaker 1: Well, So that's the thing. So if when you're hunting

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Speaker 1: So anyway, anyway, and yeah, yeah, I was flipping it back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all couldn't see that. Okay, So there's not a call

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Speaker 1: like this. So in theory, you could inhale to get

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Speaker 1: But what I like about the call this is, you know,

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Speaker 1: the can calls are so good, the little primos can calls,

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Speaker 1: I mean they really are. I wanted a call that

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Speaker 1: on these. But but this is the Akron grunner. This

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Speaker 1: is the deer huntunter's grunner. Spell it too, Acron a

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Speaker 1: the country say, and uh, this is made of genuine

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Speaker 3: That's a great call.

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Speaker 1: It really is, man and uh, it's even man. I

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Speaker 1: didn't ask them to do this, they did it.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's got my signature on it. They're making really hundred

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Speaker 1: of these, making only five hundred of them. It is

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Speaker 1: called the it's called the acorn grunner, the acorn grunt

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Speaker 1: and bleat. And it's beautiful, little green uh, little little

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Speaker 1: I mean that tree right there fed deer.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it'll go quick man. Yeah, lanyard too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can get that phelps in early September.

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Speaker 1: This is a big getting big and uh you need

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Speaker 1: a dough bleat is you can call in a pretty

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Speaker 1: high percent, judas in the early season, bleeping at him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, every time I've been looking for something just like that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, good, good, excellent, excellent, Brent. I have I

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Speaker 1: have a couple of questions for you. So I was

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Speaker 1: listening to this Country Life, Yeah, just today, and uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a story you telling there about punching your dad

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Speaker 1: in the stomach.

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Speaker 3: Well he was asleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was going through your mind.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, and I even told talked about it

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Speaker 6: in there, but it was like, I mean, I can

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Speaker 6: TV because I can't believe I would do it. I

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Speaker 6: We'd been fishing that morning. We've been fishing that morning

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Speaker 7: I don't know how long have y'all been about it.

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Speaker 4: What we told Steve twelve.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. No, I would have killed him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: She said, you idiot, Josh, can you play us that song?

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Speaker 3: I know of it.

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Speaker 3: That's got to be the longest hostage case in history.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you what it's it's been terrible, but

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Speaker 1: Good cup, bad cup.

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Speaker 8: But if you can never say it too much and

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Speaker 4: And she had lyesol, she had wind ACKs, she had

441
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Speaker 4: like gloves. I don't know what she thought had happened.

442
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: She was ready.

443
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: She thought maybe a cat had eaten someone. I don't

444
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: like cats.

445
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: We don't know what happened to the cat.

446
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: For twenty probably twenty two years, and we've been very

447
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: good friends. But I came very close to ruining our

448
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: friendship one time by shoving a kitten in her face.

449
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: And it was not not her thing.

450
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: Let's just say no, yeah, it's not like a thing

451
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: in my head that I'm choosing. I think Clay believes

452
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: this is a choice that I have made. I don't

453
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: know why. Here he's asked me before something bad happened

454
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 4: to me with a cat. If that happened, that's her

455
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: pressed deep.

456
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: I think it's been fed.

457
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: You think it's been fad.

458
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: I think it's I think I think even the more

459
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: we talk about the book, bigger it gets okay.

460
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 6: Well, just able to just rest assured when they wake up.

461
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 6: They got a cat in the house. They wake up

462
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 6: in the morning and Fluffy is laying on your chest

463
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 6: and you think, oh, this this cat loves me so much.

464
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 6: He's checking to see if you're breathing because he's fixing

465
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Speaker 6: your nose.

466
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Speaker 4: I think I know that I need you to tell

467
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: me that. When you said that, I was like, that's

468
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: exactly what I'm afraid of. I know the potential that

469
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: this cat has exactly it's gonna kill me.

470
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: Ultimate predator.

471
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: Well, we're on the third Mississippi River episode.

472
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Speaker 2: We were we supposed to listen to so that before

473
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: we came here.

474
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you were, Yes, you were.

475
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: I wait outside, you get a group.

476
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: You know what, I thought this episode was really good.

477
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: You you like, she wasn't expected.

478
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I kind of felt like it was it

479
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: was it was a little it was like too much,

480
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: just a little too much information. He Clay Lexus is like, yeah,

481
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: you won't get it.

482
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 4: That's fine. I got one on. He kind of preps

483
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: like he'll come out after he finishes a podcast, and

484
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 4: I always know what he thinks about it, and that

485
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: that shapes how I hear it. So when I listened

486
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: to it, I was kind of expecting this to be

487
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 4: like over the top, but I thought it was really good.

488
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: I found it super interesting.

489
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: It was all like I never put anything in the

490
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: Bear Grease that I don't think is essential, Like it's

491
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: it's got to be essential. There's no filler, Like I

492
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: don't have to make a podcast an hour long. I

493
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: can make it thirty minutes. I can get whatever. So

494
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: everything that was said I felt like was essential for

495
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: the story. It was just there was just there was

496
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Speaker 1: a lot.

497
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: There was nothing redundant in Yeah.

498
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: I think that when you when you're doing a podcast

499
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: like the Mississippi. I mean, like, for example, I thought,

500
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: as I listened to it, I thought, oh, he's about

501
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 4: to talk about blues music. Like I thought that was

502
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: a direction when when he when you started playing that, yeah,

503
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: and and then you didn't go that direction. And I

504
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 4: think that and we've kind of talked about this whole

505
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: whole You said it at the beginning. It's hard to know.

506
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: There's so much people need to know, and it's hard.

507
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: To know what kind of have to pick a direction.

508
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you'll come back to something or not.

509
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: What I the reason I feel like knowing who Ellett,

510
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: Humphreys and ads are those three guys, And not that

511
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: everybody in the world needs to remember it, but when

512
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: you see the depth of work and human investment and

513
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: engineering and thought and everything that went into taming that river,

514
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: it just makes you respect it because I mean, we

515
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: just drive over it and just think that this river

516
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: just it's just here. It's just not that big a deal.

517
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, this was one of the greatest feats

518
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: of human engineering on planet Earth was taming this river.

519
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: And these guys and their story is so fascinating because

520
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: there's these two guys that are being paid by the

521
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: government to give reports on the river and.

522
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: They hate each other.

523
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: They hate each other, and there's this ego rivalry and

524
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: they both agree on the same thing that there needs

525
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: to be levees and outlets, and yet because one of

526
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: them wants to be different than the other, he says

527
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: Leve's Only will work even though his research said that

528
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: it wouldn't. They adopt that policy for like fifty years

529
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: in the corp of Engineers, and then Levee's Only fails

530
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: and causes the greatest natural disaster, greatest financial natural disaster

531
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Speaker 1: in American history. It's just kind of wild when you

532
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: see the human nature how it's played. And you know,

533
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: man and rivers have always been have always been linked

534
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: in rivers. Any kind of obstacle, a natural obstacle brings

535
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: out the kind of the showcase of human possibility. Good guys,

536
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: bad guys, cheaters, those that have integrity, heroes, villains. You know,

537
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: it's like anything can happen. But so, yeah, what, Brent,

538
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: what stood out to you in this one? Anything stand out?

539
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: A couple of things. One of them do you.

540
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: Like when they ate that horse?

541
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: Oh, they're great.

542
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite parts the VAKA when

543
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: that horse drowned along with Juan Velasquez.

544
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 6: I know that they hit the bank down there in Florida,

545
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 6: But where did that happen at that?

546
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: So the first inland journey into what is now America

547
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: from Europeans was down kind of in south central Florida.

548
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: So you don't know. I'm asking what river? Do you know?

549
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: Did they know it was dy?

550
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in there. I don't know what. Okay, offhand,

551
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't.

552
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 6: But that, I mean, that wasn't what I was talking about.

553
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 6: I just I thought about that when it happened, when

554
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 6: I when I heard it. But the bureaucracy and both

555
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 6: of us having I'm not going to steal a Lexus

556
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 6: thunder here, but knowing something doesn't work and going on

557
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 6: with it anyway, Yeah, and putting money behind it and

558
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 6: sweat equity and people in there and it and it

559
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 6: fell miserably, Yeah, and catastrophic to I mean, forget the farms,

560
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 6: think about all the people. You know, I mentioned on

561
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 6: I think render number two about my grandfather going over there.

562
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Speaker 6: Are we ready to get into that part? Sure, he

563
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 6: talked about that. He was he would have been about fourteen,

564
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 6: or he would have been fourteen when they went over there.

565
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 6: He was born nineteen thirteen, fourteen when they went where

566
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Speaker 6: when he when they went over there to help with

567
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 6: the flood.

568
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, tell us we don't know.

569
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

570
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 6: My grandfather was born in nineteen thirteen and when the

571
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 6: flood happened in twenty seven. He lived in southeast Tarkans

572
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 6: where I grew up, and they were taking box car

573
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 6: loads of folks and truck loads of folks over there

574
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 6: to help not only with rebuilding, but for recovery. And

575
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: he said they did a lot of that, recovering bodies

576
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 6: and stuff over there, and some folks they never found.

577
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 6: And he said, as a young man, he said it

578
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 6: was absolutely horrible.

579
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: He said it was.

580
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Speaker 6: He said it was like heout even he had never

581
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 6: he said, I'd never seen anything like that. He didn't

582
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 6: fight in World War Two, but he said he would

583
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 6: have to imagine that that's what it was like for

584
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 6: those folks seeing that.

585
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: He said, it was just absolutely horrible.

586
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 6: Just whole families, some whole family's gone, yeah, you know,

587
00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 6: and people walking around trying to find loved ones and neighbors.

588
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 6: And yeah, he said, there was absolutely it was just

589
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 6: like a clean slate of mud.

590
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Nothing there. Man.

591
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: I've always had a pretty strong philosophy about not living

592
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: near big rivers during the times we live in I mean,

593
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: for real, like I don't want to live near a

594
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: big river. I think it's I think you in alexis

595
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: risky risky. I don't want to live near an ocean.

596
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Who in the world gave you an idea that that

597
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: ocean wasn't going to jump out of those banks and

598
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: come swallow you, your house, your family.

599
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: And your mule every September.

600
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the end of time's not a good time to

601
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: be living on the coasts.

602
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 6: Well, the end of times path, you ain't gonna be

603
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 6: safe right up here in northwest Arkansas.

604
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: Good point, Good point.

605
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: True, alexis, what do you think?

606
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 8: Well, we were talking about this on the way up here,

607
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 8: and in all honesty, I have no idea about it,

608
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 8: and about this what you had never heard of it?

609
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 8: And I guess what I've decided. And as I'm listening,

610
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 8: I'm thinking, why why do I not know about this?

611
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 8: Was obviously a big deal, And I guess it's because

612
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 8: it wasn't raised here I lived in Texas, that that

613
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 8: in no way affected anywhere right where we would where

614
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 8: would we'd be learning about it?

615
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, well.

616
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: It's not surprising to me that people wouldn't know about it.

617
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: I would not have known about the flood of nineteen

618
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: twenty seven if it hadn't been for John Barry's book honestly.

619
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean, so I don't know that that's that well.

620
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 6: My arising they wasn't taught in school where I grew up.

621
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 6: But my only key to it was my grandpa talking

622
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: about it.

623
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 8: And my grandparents they are they lived in the Delta

624
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 8: Are so I'm sure they did know about it, and

625
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 8: my parents were raised in Arkansas, so they probably did.

626
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 8: We just just was never talked about it, and so

627
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 8: we were talking about it or listening to it today, like, wow,

628
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 8: I've really met st.

629
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 7: Out on something.

630
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 8: I have no idea about this part of history, and

631
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 8: so I learned something. I did learn something from your podcast.

632
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, all of it.

633
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: I learned all of it and everything you know about

634
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: it today. So yet, Alexis, you work in we won't

635
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: say your specific job, but you work inside of systems

636
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: where you're in bureaucratic structures. Would you say that something

637
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: like that could happen today.

638
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 8: Absolutely, it happens every day. It's just not with a river.

639
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 8: I mean, they are continuously making decisions knowing.

640
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 7: It's really not going to work. But we do it anyway.

641
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 7: We do it all the time.

642
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 8: And so but it was interesting listening to your you know,

643
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 8: that was way back then nineteen twenty seven, they were

644
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 8: making those bad choices.

645
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you think, well.

646
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 8: In nineteen twenty seven, twenty twenty three, why are we

647
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 8: still doing that. We haven't learned anything during that time that, hey,

648
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 8: maybe we should have Our instinct was correct, we should

649
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 8: really think about before we do something.

650
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 7: So that was very interesting. We did talk about that.

651
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 6: And just to clarify once she said we, she didn't

652
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 6: mean the place where she works, the bureaucracy.

653
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I actually read a psychological study and listen

654
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 4: to this this whole podcast that really talked about the

655
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: difficulty of back and out of a bad decision. So

656
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: it's not just like political structures. It's everywhere, absolutely that,

657
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: even even in business where profit is king, it's very

658
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: difficult to step back. If you've attached yourself to an

659
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: initiative and you know it's going down and it's not

660
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: going to work, it's very difficult psychologically. You actually have

661
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 4: to train yourself to step away from bad decisions because

662
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 4: you kind of attach yourself to an initiative. So in

663
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: this case is a little different because this guy was

664
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: like actually created.

665
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was one of the first He was one

666
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: of the first leaders of the Corps of Engineers. I

667
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: will also say just in defense. I mean, the whole

668
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: podcast was kind of about this, this struggle with knowing

669
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: the right answer. But something else happening is that it

670
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: is easy for us and it was easy for them

671
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty seven to look back like seventy years

672
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: prior and you know, point have fault. So it actually

673
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: worked for a long time, relatively well. There were there

674
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: were there were floods and different things, but not a

675
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: flood to this scale.

676
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 6: And so my brother and I fought a duck camp

677
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 6: inside the Arkansas River levee. And at that point when

678
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 6: the time and we got the loan and we bought it,

679
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 6: there hadn't been a flood in there of any degree

680
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: in one hundred years. And after we bought it, we

681
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 6: owned it twenty something years, and it got in there

682
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 6: seven or eight times. Oh really really in that span.

683
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: Yeah wow. So we're sitting there thinking, well, we got

684
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 6: this flood insurance and all it's doing is getting a

685
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 6: little check, and then we got to put it all

686
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 6: and cleaning all this stuff back there.

687
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: You can't flood it just NonStop. After not flooding for

688
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: that arad flood years yes, yeah. Well, and that's the

689
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: thing about these rivers is that you're always working against

690
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: a giant that's unbeatable and unpredictable. So there had never

691
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: been a flood and recorded history that big. You know.

692
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: And and what we haven't said yet on the podcast,

693
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: and we're not really going to get into it was

694
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven there was a flood that was bigger

695
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: than in nineteen twenty seven.

696
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: You're not going to get into that.

697
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's you know, I mean, who wants to

698
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: hear a good news story. Nobody, not the Burgers podcast listeners.

699
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: They want to hear about disaster. No, No, I'm joking.

700
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm joking. The flood of twenty eleven it worked. I

701
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: mean the corp of Engineers that it was the it

702
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: was the flood of the biggest flood and recorded history

703
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: on this continent in twenty eleven. It was the levels

704
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: were higher than nineteen twenty seven, and it worked. They

705
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: have floodway.

706
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 2: I have great appreciation for the Corve of Engineers.

707
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh there. You know, when I did this, I didn't

708
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: want it to sound like I was throwing the core

709
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: under the bus. I mean, it's just an interesting story. Yeah,

710
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: but I mean they have what they've done with the

711
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: river is incredible and it worked so and.

712
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: It's a engineers.

713
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: I read a whole book about the flood of twenty

714
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: eleven and what they did during that time. They saw

715
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: what was happening. It was this perfect storm. It was high,

716
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: high snow melt in the Rockies, big rains in the

717
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: Ohio River Valley. I mean, it's not just like raining

718
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: in Southeast Arkansas and Memphis that makes it flood. It's

719
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: all these factors way up in the drainage basin. And

720
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: so they what they had to do, who was in

721
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: multiple places blow up the levee at at floodways. So

722
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: there's places where they have dynamite embedded in the levee,

723
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: buried in the levee and they light it. Yeah, ready

724
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: to blow the levee up. And so it diverts the

725
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: water in a strategic place that goes in floods, these

726
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: huge areas that are primarily agricultural areas. And if you

727
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: live in a floodway like you know it. You're like, hey,

728
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: you can build a house here. This is a federal floodway.

729
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: That's the way I understand it. And you just kind

730
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: of bank on your house may flood, or you build

731
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: your house up like these deer camps are built up

732
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: on stilts. And there's a lot of floodways all down

733
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: the Mississippi from basically Memphis down to Louisiana. There's some

734
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: wild stuff like that. And the Atchafalaya River wise off

735
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: of the Mississippi and Louisiana. And they think if it

736
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: hadn't been for the corp of Engineers keeping the Mississippi

737
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: in the Mississippi, the whole Mississippi River would have naturally

738
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: turned into the Atchafalayah Basin and basically the Mississippi River

739
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: would have cut down through Louisiana and just like destroyed

740
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: the place. But they but they continually monitored that section

741
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: of the river and do a lot of thuff. Anyway,

742
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: we're not we're going to get into some of that,

743
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: but pretty wild, dad. What'd you think what stood out

744
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: to you in this one?

745
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 3: Well?

746
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: How little I knew about it. I mean I've crossed

747
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: the Mississippi River like most everybody, not hundreds, but tens

748
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 5: of times, and you know, you just cross it and

749
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 5: look at it and go, what a nice body of water? Yeah,

750
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: and then you find out how complicated, how powerful, and

751
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: you just go, wow, this is probably, you know, one

752
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 5: of the uh the most powerful batel sources of the world.

753
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 5: I mean it's just you know, you take water and

754
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 5: it's it's pretty powerful.

755
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I.

756
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: Love Mark Twain's thoughts. You know how he described the river.

757
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: I love that song from Old Charlie. I can sing

758
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: that one when you read the lyrics, you know, and

759
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 5: he had it, he had it tagged so and the

760
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 5: human nature of Humphreys.

761
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: And Elliott Elliott, Elliott Elliott. You know those guys.

762
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: You know, they're geniuses, that they're the top of the heap,

763
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: they're the best there are, but they're still humans, man.

764
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: I mean they're gonna lie, cheat and still occasionally. But

765
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: it all worked except you know, maybe maybe the.

766
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: Flood was a little bad.

767
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, uh, anyway, I got I really enjoyed it.

768
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: It was more it's like you said, it was almost

769
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: more than I could handle.

770
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be honest with my doctor.

771
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 5: Buddy told me that if you have major surgery, your

772
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 5: brain doesn't work quite right. And he just had major

773
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: surgery and we were talking. He couldn't think of a

774
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 5: simple part that we were trying to he said, that's

775
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: an example of what I'm talking about. So my brain's

776
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 5: not working real well, but it worked well enough to

777
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: realize that I was way over my head with this thing.

778
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean I had to listen to it two three times. Well,

779
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: see that. To me, that's a success inside of this

780
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: because the reason I was interested in the Mississippi River

781
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: two years ago was because of how I realized. I

782
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: knew nothing about it, but I knew that it was

783
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: important to America. I knew that rivers are fascinating, it's

784
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: important to deer camp. According to you, how's that, well,

785
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: you said, you guys bear gries, that gives you something

786
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: to talk about. Yes, well, it just shows you how

787
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: well complex things are all around us, that we have

788
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: no idea what went into it. You just and that

789
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: to me makes the world a deeper, more robust, a

790
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: place where you can be curious and learn and understand things.

791
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, the river is absolutely fascinating, and as it

792
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: is as dynamic of a natural feature as we have

793
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: in this country, Like if you think about the Rocky

794
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Mountains and you think about going to Montana, going to Yellowstone,

795
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: going to all these places where there's this grandiose, like

796
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: big majesty that you look at and go wow. The

797
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Mississippi River is the same when you look at impact,

798
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: but you might drive over and say, man, it's just

799
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: a big mudhole. You know, it has a different kind

800
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: of beauty.

801
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: But it has a mule float down it occasionally too. Yeah.

802
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: That was crazy.

803
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

804
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, you think about that river.

805
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 5: I mean, it runs straight through the country, and as

806
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 5: the country developed, it came to that river.

807
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: And just stopped.

808
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then these guys started going, look, we can

809
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: make iron, but that won't build a We're gonna get

810
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 5: across this thing.

811
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: So it created a totally new product. And steel.

812
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: I mean when you can read about steel, and I

813
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 5: mean it was a big deal.

814
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: You know for this guy, I forget his name. It

815
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: was ADS that was challenging Carnegie. Yeah, Carnegie. They were

816
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: making steel. Carnegie was a gazillionaire, but it wasn't good

817
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: steal Well, it was the best the market. It was

818
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: the best that they ever had. But AIDS came in

819
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: and basically raised the whole standard by testing every single

820
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: piece of steel, and then they were able to you know,

821
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: that changed the whole steel market you know, you.

822
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: Know a book I read and I think it might

823
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: have been Lewis and Clark. I can't remember. But this

824
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 5: guy that it was a little different from this story.

825
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: But the guy that designed this bridge, he he had

826
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 5: to he had to create a product that would work.

827
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: So he builds the bridge across the river, and no

828
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 5: one would cross it, and he kept trying to figure

829
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 5: out how I'm I gonna get these people across it.

830
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 5: So he had a big press conference, had newspapers out.

831
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: He had an elephant, and of course people knew that

832
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 5: an elephant won't do anything dangerous, and he had to

833
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 5: across the bridge. And then all of a sudden, here

834
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: they go else. I don't know how true that.

835
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Was, Okay, Bridges and animals. We were we were riding

836
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: mules uh Saturday in the Ozarks, and we came up

837
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: on We're riding down kind of a county road and

838
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: came upon a big, brand new concrete bridge that was

839
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: really high, and I was riding banjo and a guy,

840
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: a good mule man, was riding with me and he said, Clay,

841
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: is that mule yours ever cross the bridge? And I said, well,

842
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh, I guess not. I don't think

843
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: he has. And he said, he was like better you know,

844
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: if you want to go around it, you can. You

845
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: better watch him. It's really high because what happens when

846
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: you walk across a concrete bridge is that just sounds

847
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: clipping across there. It sounds funny, it's hollow, there's it's

848
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: just this unique thing. And so he I was I

849
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: was a little bit worried about across the bridge, but

850
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: Banjo went right across it.

851
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 3: Way to go, buddy.

852
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Really, just like your elephant, that.

853
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 4: All things come together. James b Eads was the guy

854
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: that he's talking about.

855
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in the podcast.

856
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: I know, that's what I'm saying.

857
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: He was the one that made the elephant. Yeah, no way,

858
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: what's his name?

859
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: The Eads Bridge is a three arts Still Trust bridge.

860
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: It Aids from the Aids is the one that had

861
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: the elephant. Okay, okay, I asked John. For some reason,

862
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: I thought his name was Scott.

863
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: But I'm sure you're sure.

864
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: The one with the elephant.

865
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: Listen, I mean, I'm I'm on the Saint Louis Bank

866
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 4: website in the mid eighteen hundreds.

867
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: That's it.

868
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: That's all.

869
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: James Buchanan Aids had a learned distress of riverboats and

870
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: deep determination, a necessary combination to construct the unbuildable bridge.

871
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: That was That was the highlight for me.

872
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, come on, it's like eighteen Missouri Elephant? How

873
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: did you get the elephant?

874
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: I've I've always had a fascination with craftsmen and structures,

875
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: and and listening to that part of the podcast was

876
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: just fascinating to me thinking about this guy. I had

877
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: actually never heard of him before, and the way that

878
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: John Barry was talking about his his intellectual prowess and

879
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: and and genius. I found it surprising that he's not

880
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: a more common name.

881
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: Well, he's you know, I think it just goes back

882
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: so deep, and there's only so much that, you know,

883
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: a person can kind of file away in their brain.

884
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: But he he's up there with the great engineers and

885
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: inventors of America.

886
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 6: Well, the dude told his self calculus, and I couldn't

887
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 6: have somebody that knew calculus, couldn't teach me calculus.

888
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: I just have great appreciation for structures that stand the

889
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: test of time.

890
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: Can you believe that bridge is still fascinating?

891
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

892
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 2: And hat tip to mister.

893
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: Aids well, and I thought it was interesting that in

894
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: Mark Twain's book Life on the Mississippi, he directly addressed

895
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: AIDS and tried to cut him down at the knees,

896
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: Like you think about writing a book and you're a

897
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: best selling author, and you are not just an author

898
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: like you would be today. Today. You're an author and

899
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: there's you're you know, there's also Netflix, and there's social media,

900
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: and there's all these different avenues to get media into

901
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: your brain. Back then, books, newspapers, it wasn't even radio.

902
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: And so Mark Twain is like the I don't know

903
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: the biggest guy on the in the in America, and

904
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: he calls out Aids in his book as a as

905
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: a guy that thinks he knows it all but doesn't.

906
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: And so Twain called it. He was like, you can't

907
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: control this river. You're never going to be able to

908
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: control it. And I felt like it was important to

909
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: put the Mark Twain stuff in there.

910
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: You can't talk about the mississipb.

911
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: Obviously, there's a lot of people that have read Mark

912
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: Twain to maybe this is a surprise to you, Josh,

913
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: I have not. I haven't read Mark Twain.

914
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: Really required reading.

915
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 4: For kids too.

916
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and where I came from. They never made me

917
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: read Mark Twain.

918
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: That's surprising.

919
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but I felt like reading those sections.

920
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: They were they were so witty, and you see Mark

921
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: Twain he was so enamored with riverboat pilots and how

922
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: they had to navigate, which was pretty wild. And then

923
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: his uh my favorite part was when he talked about

924
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: how science back in the day. He was ridiculing the

925
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: most modern science, basically saying that scientists change their minds

926
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: all the time and use inaccurate things to get the

927
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: spiel I made about science.

928
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: That's a pretty good it was a good spell.

929
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's not that, you know, there's one extreme of

930
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: not trusting science where you're a flat earth and you

931
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: just don't think science even matters. I'm not there at all.

932
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of science. Much of much of

933
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: some part of science is kind of making the best

934
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: speculations of what we can for the future based upon

935
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: what we know or think happened in the past. And

936
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's one thing that's that is certain

937
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: in science is that it really does constantly change. Yeah,

938
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: it's constantly and that's okay. That means it's working, and

939
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: that we're progressing anyway.

940
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: So it's kind of funny when people say you've got

941
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: to you've got to you know, you've got to trust science,

942
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: and they kind of be little people who who question

943
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: some aspects of things that are coming out. You know,

944
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 4: it's okay to question that stuff. But it's also when

945
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: people treat the scientists as if like they're not credible,

946
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: or they're not they're not intelligent, or they've got some

947
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: sinister motive. That's also wrong because that's just part of science,

948
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 4: that's part of discovery. Is you gotta you gotta run

949
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 4: some tests. And all you're saying with science is in

950
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 4: this test, this is what it looks like. Yeah, that's

951
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 4: really all you're saying. Yeah, and you could you can

952
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 4: generalize that out in other ways, but in every you know,

953
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: you put a lot of those little rocks together, you

954
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: get a little mountain.

955
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, but what I'm always saying on Bear Greece

956
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: is that there there are some parts of the human

957
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: existence and life on this planet that will never be

958
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: measured by science, that are more real than gravity.

959
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

960
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: I could if I if you get a tattoo for

961
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: Bear grease, write that word for word. Have someone look

962
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: it over grammatically to make sure it makes sense. But

963
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: that's the truth. Like the trend of the intelligent is

964
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 1: to be like the only thing that's on planet Earth

965
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: is what can be measured, seen, tasted, and touched. What

966
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to say is that that is new.

967
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: Humans for a long time have known that there is

968
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: a spiritual dynamic to this place. Mister Earle knows it.

969
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: There's a spiritual dynamic and there's a natural dynamic, both

970
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: very real, both very relevant to human existence. I mean

971
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: like love science, yeah, also love the things that will

972
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: never be tracked by science, like asking a pinball machine

973
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: to make bread. How'd you like that?

974
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: Brand?

975
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: Bam bam bam. It sounds like something out of this

976
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: country life.

977
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: I could just see Clay sitting in here in his

978
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: office and thinking, what's the most obscure that I could

979
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: think of?

980
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: Right now?

981
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: That one just came. I didn't even think about it.

982
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: It just it just sometimes they just righted themselves.

983
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes they right themselves. Yes, yes, testosterone. Uh any comments

984
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: on the testosterone part. We're getting some eye rolls. Raising

985
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: his hand.

986
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 6: When I started playing that, when I started playing it

987
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 6: on the way up here, I said, now, you know,

988
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 6: it's not going to be a test.

989
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't think sometimes there used to be.

990
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 6: But but the day ain't over, obviously, I said, But

991
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 6: just think about something there that that that made sense

992
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 6: to you, or that or maybe it didn't make sense

993
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 6: to you. That just something that you grasped onto. And

994
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 6: and he's because he's going to ask you what what

995
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 6: you got out of it about it or what stood

996
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 6: out to you. She's like, okay, we started playing, and

997
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 6: I started playing it, and when it got to the

998
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 6: part about the underwear, she's like, can I comment on that?

999
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, Christy.

1000
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: Christy asked me. She goes, is that true? And I said,

1001
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. She's like, she's like, is he talking

1002
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: about boxer briefs? And I was like, it's like, well,

1003
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: I guess. She's like, is it the same with whitey tities?

1004
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: I said, I don't.

1005
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: Know that tight man's under obviously be whitey tight.

1006
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1007
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: No, for it's legitimately with my.

1008
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 6: In my podcast, I talked about me and my dad's

1009
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 6: tripping down to our boxers, you know, so to take

1010
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 6: a nap in the heat. M anything you want to

1011
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 6: say about boxers or.

1012
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 7: I agree with you.

1013
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 8: Can I say, Can I say something else that I

1014
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 8: learned or that I like?

1015
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 7: Could we we talked about this too.

1016
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 8: Is the political part of it always dings for me

1017
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 8: when I'm listening to something because I love it.

1018
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 7: I mean, that's my life, you know. I liked I

1019
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 7: like all that kind of stuff.

1020
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 8: And the Hoover, Yeah, that was so fascinating to me.

1021
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 8: I had no idea about because you never hear about

1022
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 8: him as a president. I'm a big president person. I

1023
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 8: love that history. I love to learn about it.

1024
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1025
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 7: I knew about the voting, you know, because Lincoln.

1026
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 8: You know, all of that made sense because of what

1027
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 8: I've learned, But I did not know that he was

1028
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 8: such a big part of that and he had you know,

1029
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 8: deceived and you know, all of that makes sense.

1030
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 7: But I didn't know any of that. So that was

1031
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 7: very interesting.

1032
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: Well that's a good That's a good thing to talk about.

1033
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: Is the is the things that that flood influenced in America.

1034
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: And what is one thing John Barry said is that

1035
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: it got Herbert Hoover like a president and he was

1036
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: a hero of the flood. Right, There was a lot

1037
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: of good things that he did. He was a genius,

1038
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: as John Barry said. But then yeah, and men, it's

1039
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: so interesting that it changed the African Americans from the

1040
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: from the Republican to the Democratic Party. I had no

1041
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: idea the point when it happened, which is interesting.

1042
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 8: I just didn't know, like it was neat. That was

1043
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 8: neat to learn about that part of history.

1044
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know about, mister. Any of those five things

1045
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: stand out to you, the five things ways four things.

1046
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 4: Well, I did like that. I appreciated your spiel on

1047
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: on Mark Twain and science and I we've already covered that.

1048
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: I thought. I did not realize that they kept the

1049
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 4: Black family's hostage. Yeah, that was total news to me.

1050
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 4: I knew about the Great Migration that that. I mean,

1051
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 4: there's a lot of like that's a really big part

1052
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 4: of history. But what's interesting is that I've actually taught

1053
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 4: about the Great Migration, but you always teach about it

1054
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 4: in the sense of where they went to and where

1055
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 4: people moved to and kind of what was pushing on

1056
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: there when you think about it in terms of Jim

1057
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 4: Crow laws and in Hospital South. But boy, that was

1058
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: a whole different that was a whole different level. I

1059
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 4: didn't know any of that that was news to me,

1060
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 4: So I thought that was I thought that was interesting.

1061
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 4: I agree with the lexus. I thought the Hoover thing

1062
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: was interesting. Probably my favorite part of the whole thing

1063
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: was when you were talking about Mark Twain. I enjoyed

1064
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: hearing his his readings. I hadn't heard those, but I

1065
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 4: thought the part about spirituality was interesting. And yeah, Clay

1066
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 4: like to talk about testosterone a lot these days. When

1067
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: I listened to it, I was like, good grief, we

1068
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 4: just had this conversation, just like over coffee this morning,

1069
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: and so, yeah, that's it. I didn't know that I

1070
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: was getting teed up to hear it on the podcast.

1071
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: I told you they and John Bray's book, it talks

1072
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: a lot about what happened on those Levy refugee camps,

1073
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: the murders, the incredible you know, there there were, there

1074
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: were There was a time when they when they said

1075
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: that a mule was worth more than a person on

1076
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: that levee, and uh, there was a yeah, it got

1077
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: really wild for a long time, and that river was

1078
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: up for a long time, and those people were on

1079
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: the levees, and yeah, they wouldn't let the black people leave.

1080
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: They would let the white people leave, and it all

1081
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: went back to that thing of to Will and Leroy Percy,

1082
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: those guys who you know, it's like there's good and

1083
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: there's bad.

1084
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was kind of crazy because they were so well, it's.

1085
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: Kind of like you know, it got down to uh,

1086
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: as they say in the in the cattle industry, down

1087
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: to nut cutting time, and they Leroy kind of showed

1088
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: his hand about really where he was at.

1089
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: It's why motivation. Motivation matters because like you could, you

1090
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: could see just this one section from from was It podcast,

1091
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 4: the number two right talked about you, Okay, well these

1092
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: are decent people, but then you you listen to part three,

1093
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: it's like, well they did some good things because they

1094
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Speaker 4: were motivated by this, and therefore the motivation is what

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Speaker 4: actually matters the most because here I wouldn't use the

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Speaker 4: terms that they just used. I mean, here we go,

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Speaker 4: but it really showed their motivation and that actually because

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Speaker 4: that's their motivation that influenced their actions in a different way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it. I mean, it's the thing about the Percys,

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Speaker 1: those that they declared their they never tried to hide

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Speaker 1: why they they were like, we're going to build an empire,

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Speaker 1: we need labor. We need to empower these people so

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00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: they'll stay here. And then but then when they wanted

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00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: to leave, that's when the percys were like, Hey, these

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: guys need to stay here for the for the for

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Speaker 1: the farms, for everything that's going on. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's an interesting, interesting, interesting story. We've got

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Speaker 1: one more Missisippi River podcast, and it's gonna be totally different.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be deep and heavy and old. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fish and turtles and and there's a little

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Speaker 1: near inside of it. It's got what there's one near

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Speaker 1: death experience. Get ready, get ready, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that I thought was interesting too,

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Speaker 4: when they were talking about the year before the flood

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Speaker 4: and everybody was like, hey, if it rains anymore, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be in trouble. I was listening to that

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Speaker 4: the day I listened to these people talk about our

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Speaker 4: heat this year. Yeah, and they're all like, it can't

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Speaker 4: get much harder than this. It's we're gonna be in trouble.

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Speaker 4: And I just thought it was kind of interesting, like

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Speaker 4: this major natural disaster and crisis that hit America and

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Speaker 4: they're kind of having similar conversations right now, and I

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Speaker 4: just thought, what would it have been like to have

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Speaker 4: read that in the paper. You know, these guys are

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Speaker 4: worried about the water, and it would probably be exactly

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Speaker 4: like I feel right now hearing about it in a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm about the heat man, we really put you

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Speaker 1: in a bind here?

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Speaker 3: Did you really put me in a bye?

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Speaker 5: You're not even aware of There's a game camera right

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 1: It's been up for years, no problem, it doesn't work well, Alexis.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the podcast, you know,

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01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, after seven years of not being on here

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01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: and beg mm hmm, yep, it was worth it. It's time.

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Speaker 1: It was time.

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Speaker 7: It's worth it, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Dad, good to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Than you.

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Speaker 1: I hope everybody has a great life.