WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Fabulous Friday 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.879 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:18.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Nick shot 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.880 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.600 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:37.240 and Nicky Spagnola. Ready, Mick, are you ready? Mick? Are 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:42.519 you ready? Mick? That was funny today? You might need 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:47.840 to let me explain explain that they would have to. Um. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.040 So I got to the press conference room way ahead 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.199 of time, well not way, but at least two or 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.680 three minutes, and I said, oh, I forgot my mask. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.120 So I was going to run back to my desk, 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.920 and I figured I would run into McCarthy coming right, 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.360 so I would know how much time I had. Well, 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.040 as soon as I got past rich Dalrymple's office, they 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.640 were coming out and he said hi, and I said Hi. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:16.520 In delay, I gotta get my mask. And so by 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.600 time I ran and got it and got back, he 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.759 was on the he was on the podium waiting. He 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.560 waited on and came through the door. He says, you're ready, Mick, 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.080 And I said, yeah, go ahead. That'd be glad. Tom 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.640 Landy wasn't there. You would have gotten fine big time. No, 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.680 if it was Tom, I would have stopped and forgot 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.560 the mask. I just said, screw the mask, right, I 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.440 mean they were they were counted to the second. If 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.840 you if the second hand hit twelve, and if your 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.320 back foot was still over the boundary, but your back 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.200 you weren't all the way in. You weren't all the 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.240 way in. But if you showed up with that your 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.520 mask on, then you would have had been him had 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:04.760 a problem still with r. So so he he either way. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.560 When I when I came by, and I went around 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.960 the back door to get in right the glass door, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.520 and when I when I went past the regular door 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.600 to get in, I heard it closed. So he was 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:24.400 only up there for before. You weren't that special lucky? 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.960 Clarence was late yesterday that he got on to Clarence 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.679 they're talking about Clarence was on time and that and 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.440 that was like, well, that's no different, right, that's nothing different. Yeah, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.400 he's been pretty good about guys walking in late. Huh, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.400 how much do you think the media can afford as 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.720 far as fines go, Well, you have to go on salary, right, Uh, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.600 that's whatever the percentage is. So five Wait, for press 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.600 conferences and during interviews, he lets his phone ring with 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.720 the coach. McCarthy. Huh, so we're right, so right, I 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.480 almost kept fining that getting added up right now? The 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.200 good thing he likes me. You know, we we've been 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.640 pretty dependable around here, haven't Yeah. I don't think anyone's 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:10.560 been started, do you know previous engagement? Thank you? But 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.320 we are punctual. Yeah, we have been. I think I 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.880 was later when I was doing zoom from home. Yes, 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.680 I'm not being all of a sudden, I'm all the time, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:25.720 all the time. Who yeah, but we would see we 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.120 would see this perplexed face on on the zoo on 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.800 the zoom and no volume. Look, I don't know what 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.440 I gotta do now a day. So would you say 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.160 we're off to a two and one start this season? 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.560 I think we're off to three and o start, two 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.680 and one season for the Cowboys, No for us, for 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.960 the Cowboys, all right, all right, no doubt. So we 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:54.200 are like the Carolina Panthers, that's right, coming in. Yeah, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:58.960 our competition has been staff what the Carolinas, especially you 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:03.080 guys driving try to get here. That's exactly right, all right, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.800 So Mickey, give us an update on what you know 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.160 coming out of that Mike McCarthy press conference, and there's 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.280 nobody on the practice field today. No, today's the regeneration 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.320 day or whatever he calls it, mock day. So yeah, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:21.520 he remembers switched the schedule. Instead of Friday being the 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.200 last practice and Saturday the walkthrough, today's the walkthrough and 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:29.039 they actually practice on Saturday to try to keep the 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.160 team's attention and get in a groove of getting ready 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.320 to play instead of having, gosh, you would have twenty 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:41.120 four about thirty six hours away, which is from the 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.760 way NFL teams have done it forever, except he quit 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.279 doing it, right, I think he said twenty fifteen. And 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.279 there's been some other teams that have taken that approach 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.200 as well, and everybody copies off of each other, right, Well, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.880 whoever wins the Super Bowl, that's what you do. Well, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.479 that's when Green Bay back in the day winning Puper Bowls, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.800 NFL championships anyway, And so Lombardi was the one that 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.560 started the whole training camp thing, if I'm not mistaken, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:12.400 and that's something that has continued because he was winning championships. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.479 So if they're going to do it, then everybody else 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.120 is going to do it. So that's how that's the 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.880 history of the torture of training cat, I'm sure. And 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.080 in the seventies when the Cowboys were going to Super Bowls, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.240 they probably looked at everything Tom did. Well. Tom got 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.560 it from from from Vince right when the Cowboys started 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.680 using computers, that's right, and everybody else everybody is. It 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.120 took them a while though to get up to date 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.120 with the computers though, and then the Internet was born 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.880 because of the Cowboys, That's right. You go from carting 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:47.120 around the thick computerized playbook and with the computer paper, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.839 now it's just an And with the Internet you could 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:56.719 google Everson Walls and I don't really want to Google 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.320 or check Twitter to see what happened at Mike McCarthy's press. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.800 So have you here today, and also to get me 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.760 up to speed on the injury report and the fact 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.920 that now you alluded to the fact yesterday that Randy 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.160 Gregory was not on the practice field, and then an 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.440 injury report came out and all of a sudden, after 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.359 you had indicated it was like a veteran's day for 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.960 Randy and it was. And then on the injury report, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.400 there's Randy Gregory's name, it says knee by it, and 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:30.160 then today it said fully expected to go. Okay, all right, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.880 so I gave you information ahead of what you got 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.440 from the head coach. They had to explain why he 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.440 wasn't at practice though well everybody knew. Report. Yeah, they 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.800 had to say have in veterans. They had to arrest 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.440 show that he was gone, right, and so yeah, but 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.360 that's what you tell him Veterans Day. That's what I called. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.720 And I think I was pretty right the way he 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.760 walked off laughing. Right, it wasn't like he was limping 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.880 or had a brace on or he was fine. Then 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.599 he didn't play this full allotment of snaps on Monday 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.560 night eight or so, right, so he's good to go. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:13.160 As Mike said, we're just being smart, which means trying 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.000 to get the guy to the game, not waste the 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.680 game on a Thursday practice. So and then nothing else 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.600 has changed. Everybody else that missed missed, and nobody got 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.800 any better, and nobody got any better or worse on 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.240 COVID nineteen. So I'd imagine those two guys and I 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.920 and Neil are going to miss again. How long has 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.960 it been for Neil? Now? Well, it was last week, right, okay? 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.640 Yet not quite yeah, okay, I think it was Wednesday 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:48.240 maybe something like that, okay, And I was Friday, right 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.480 last week, so okay, and that's kind of been the 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.720 standard ten days. Yes, yep though. All right, So as 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.000 we dive into this matchup and Pollard was back from 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:05.400 his personal okay reasons, okay, as we dive into the 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:10.600 Carolina Panthers to what's going on? Is he is he? Okay? 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:14.000 Oh yeah, he's fine. He was back bad to go. Okay, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:20.320 he's being the intrepid reporter over. I told you by 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.600 Parcel's story, right, was his first year with the Cowboys, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:29.200 and the training camp was in San Antonio, and uh, 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.439 he would only he would only speak to the media 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.920 between practices, after the morning practice, after the afternoon practices, 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.920 he would just walk off and no one challenged him 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:44.040 on it. Right. Well, one day I was walking to 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.640 the practice. I was a little bit late getting there, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.439 and Larry Allen was writing stuff. No, I had stuff 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.240 to do, let me tell you, okay. Uh, And Larry 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.400 Allen was right. It was in the locker room when 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.480 I went by, and they were already on the field 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.839 and I was like, oh, something's up, and so, uh, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.200 he didn't he didn't practice. And so when Bill was 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.240 walking off, I kind of sided up over there and 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.840 I was the only one and I said, Bill, Larry 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:15.120 didn't Larry didn't practice anything going on there, and he 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.679 just kept walking with his head down like I didn't exist. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:25.880 He doesn't really walk. Yeah, yeah, And so I said, uh, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.760 were you bothered that Larry wasn't practicing? And he looked 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.800 at me and he said, you're not supposed to effing 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.040 be talking to me after this practice, and he stormed 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.760 off right, and I said, well, I guess I got 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.280 my answer. He was bothered about Larry not practicing. Right. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:45.200 So the next day, UM, he's he's coming into the 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.559 interview room and where I would sit it was against 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.520 the wall, and he had to walk past me. The 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.680 aisle was goes right past me, right, and he comes back, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.880 comes by and he kind of snares and looks at 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.800 me and he goes, oh, there's the nose. And I said, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.880 you're talking about the nose. I thought he was getting personal, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.800 you know, And he goes, yeah, you're always nosing and 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.960 everybody else's business. And I said, Bill, that's what they 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.079 paid me to do. And after that we never had 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.600 a cross word again. Dude, you gotta have thick scan 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.080 around to stand up. I have thick scan. So yeah, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.920 but so no loves it. Yeah, a lot of times 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:27.800 he wasn't serious. He was checking ing, Like that time 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.600 he walked up to the guy that had the ribb 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.840 injury and the guy said, yeah, yeah, coach, I'm good. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.760 And then at lunch, just before the guy went into 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.040 the line, Bill comes from behind and slaps him in 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.600 the ribs and guys like that. He goes, yeah, you're 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:45.440 all right, he said, ah, just checking. Did you like 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.880 playing for him? I love it. It was the best 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.559 time I had besides the winning. And you know, I 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.920 didn't get too much of it. You know, you can 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.920 tell some of the guys right that while we're there, 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.840 they got too much of it. I was just there 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.840 enough for that pretty much magical moment where everything kind 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.320 of came into play. So yeah, it was easy to 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.440 like that. Those were great four years covering him. I 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.280 loved it, I mean as entertaining, almost as maybe even 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.200 more than Jimmy, because Jimmy was all I mean, he 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.920 was serious, but Bill had a way of deflecting the 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.079 news by telling stories, right, and everybody would listen to 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.959 the story and it's like, oh man, any great, I said, yeah, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.840 but he didn't give us anything. Okay, So how would 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:32.240 you rank and we're getting to the Carolina Panthers, yes, okay, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.960 entertainment value, the head coaches you have covered, Okay, how 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:41.319 would you rank them? One through four? I think Bill 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.079 told better stories than anybody else. Okay, I think so? 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.480 Was he number one? I would think so from a 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:52.160 storytelling standpoint. Number two would have been Jimmy and he 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.080 was entertaining just because he was Jimmy, right, and he 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.199 wasn't trying to be entertaining. He was just being Jimmy. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.240 It was helped along that his team successful too. He 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.240 was It wasn't much fun to nine and coming from that, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.160 I mean, and being one in fifteen and then I'm 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:16.160 waiting here. Number three he was number three, So three, 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.600 I know who I've got. And now NFC East Coats. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.000 I have an NFC East Coat and this one, this 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:27.800 one would have been totally um by happenstance would have 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.160 been Switzer because you never knew what I was gonna 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.680 come out of that mouth ranks or if he was 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.960 gonna walk if he was gonna walk through and we're 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.400 just at the airport and here's yeah, that's and that's 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.120 the whole that's the whole question. That it's from an 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:47.000 entertainment value, how would you rank them? Yeah, okay, Buddy Ryan, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.960 Well well we're talking. I was just talking cowboy cotchs. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.600 But yeah, yeah, but Buddy Ryan, but he helped the 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:57.079 Cowboys be entertainment and helped Jimmy. Jimmy, I don't think 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.320 he ever got under Tom skin. Did he no time 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.920 to ignore him? You know, he's just a DC even 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.839 the time. I think the only time Tom got a 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:13.320 got upset was that eighty seventh season when Randall Cunningham 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.600 went to Neil and then threw a touchdown pass after 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.040 he knelt once and he was rubbing it in his 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.440 face because they ran the end around in the strike game, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.040 so he was going to get back at him. I 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.240 think Tom might have been a little perturbed, But I 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.600 think I think as far as Cowboys coaches, in whatever 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.960 order you want to put him in parcels, Jimmy and 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.320 Switzer were the most entertained. And then to me, because 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.240 we used to get walk offs with Jason Garrett. Yeah, 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.880 the times where the cameras weren't rolling. It was really 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.760 good stuff. And I always wished people could see that 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.200 part of him they only saw, or maybe he would 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.959 camera or maybe bring some of that stuff to his 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.080 He purposely did not write I know, and Tom, but 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.040 there would have been a different person. You know what 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.760 we didn't get around time that much. We got the 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:06.000 press I know, we got the press conference on Tuesday, right, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.200 there was no after practice every day, and then Friday, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.880 when he walked off from practice, we got to walk 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.560 with him and that was it. And and then if 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.160 you needed something you had to call Barbara, Barbara Anderson, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.000 and she would get Tom on the phone and you 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.760 would get your one question. You'd ask it and then 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.760 he'd he'd end the conversation. No, he would end the 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:33.440 conversation by going okay, and no, coach, I got more right, No, No, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:39.320 you I know you don't done. You appreciated and so 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:44.200 uh myself as a CUB reporter in Lubbock, Texas going 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.920 to training camp and covering the Cowboys. I mean you 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.760 can imagine what it was like, you know, fresh out 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.000 of college and your interview in Tom Landry now and 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:57.360 he would do. And for any TV station, a thousand oaks, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.000 you come up to him after practice, after his weightliftings 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.520 and whatever, you could get a one on one with him. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.480 You know. Well, back in the day, guys us all 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.560 saying the same signed the same football. We all signed 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.600 the same footballs. Everyone quarterback didn't matter. And in training 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.880 camp with no Tommy Bolmo's got to have his own 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:18.720 special packet. No Danny White, even Troyman, those guys, they 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.320 all signed the same football. But in training camp with 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:26.680 training camp with Tom, remember the cafeteria and we got 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.440 to sit kind of in the back behind where the 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:34.000 coaches were on one long table, and if you were brave, 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.240 you could go up there and you know, okay, and 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.960 that they would answer something. But other than that, you 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.240 would walk off practice field talking to Tom. There was 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:47.560 no sit down whatsoever, and he was always very accommodating. 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:52.200 And then Jimmy started the same thing walking eighty nine 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.520 walking and we would interview him walking. And I'll never 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.960 forget the time when they they they in the supplement 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.360 old draft, they got Steve Walsh, Yes, and Steve Walsh 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.880 Willer number four. Well, Mike Saxon had number four, and 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.880 somebody asked Saxon about, you know, would you give the 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.120 new quarterback number four? And he goes, yeah, for a price. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.400 And so somebody asked Jimmy about that he and he 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.880 I'll clean it up. He said, yeah, Well he better 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.160 worry about his own job making the team, not his number. 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.840 So that obviously Jimmy has something that gainst kickers. And 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.200 this was after the second practice, so now it's it's 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.480 like five, so it's seven or eight o'clock. Back home, 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.120 we're on deadline, and it's like, oh, I guess I 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.560 gotta go back and write a new story that Mike 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:48.200 Saxon's in trouble. I'm trying to remember. So with Saxon, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.200 how how long did he stick around? He kicked in 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.320 the Super Bowl? Okay, all right, I couldn't remember because 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.160 you remember the block punt. Okay, the start off Super 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.000 Bowl twenty seven one thing on coaches and we go 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.040 to break and then I want to come back with 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.840 this Cowboys defense and pressuring the quarterback. Okay, because your 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.520 mention of Randall Cunningham brought back a flashback to me, 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.840 and we'll get to that in a second. But one 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.240 other thing on coaches when I was in college, and 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.760 we talked about a legend like Tom Landry, okay, and 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.840 me being nervous interviewing him first time. Whatever. When I 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.159 was in college, I did I worked for the campus 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.479 radio station, did play by play of OU football. OU 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.879 played at Faroe Field in Columbia, Missouri. Or I remember 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.240 this because he's got his Missoo shirt on, and in 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:42.320 the press box was Bud Wilkinson. And I summoned up 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:47.400 the courage to go interview at my little tape recorder 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.840 and interviewed Bud Wilkinson. Was he was always known to 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.560 be nice as nice as can be, but he was 0:17:55.040 --> 0:18:01.720 Bud Wilkinson. And here was the reason I was you fan, okay, yeah, 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.520 and I was so nervous. I still have a copy 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.480 of that cassette tape and it pains me to listen 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.200 to that because my voice is crack. Oh it's so yeah. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.960 White hair then right, oh yeah, it was so bad anyway, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.119 So that that just had a flashback to that. But 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:25.000 we flashback to Cowboys Eagles Randall Cunningham and how Monday 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.280 Night reminded me of that. When we come back on 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.000 mix shots, Honey, big news. Gary. Are you okay? Oh? 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.480 I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.600 want the latest smartphone, But the best deals are only 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.680 for new customers. So to get a new customer deal, 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.840 I changed my name to Jackie Flash. Okay, But the 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.280 best smartphone deals at AT and T are for everyone, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.200 new and existing customers. That's huge. And guess who's getting 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.639 the deal? Is it Jackie Flash, Jackie Flash. 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I didn't think a 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:19.720 master degree in writing journalism. My daughter is an Oklahoma 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:24.439 Sooner going for her master really online. I didn't realize 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.960 she was that smart. Could make sure that. I'll tell 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:36.640 her you sake after after her mother. That's right, all right, 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.560 And I'm saying that because of the OU part of that, 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:45.560 of course, thank you book, Thank you all right? Smart 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.720 too a little bit, all right? Um, Switzer wasn't smart 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:54.000 enough to recruit you, though, Nah, nah, nobody saw me. 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.440 That's not Switcher's fault. I just had one year high 0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:01.399 school football, all right. Um. Seemed like Texas would they 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.000 got herkey. I certainly wanted to. You look at Herky's 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.679 high school career. Look at mine, give me a break. 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:12.399 That's like, come on, It's like, that's like Obama versus 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:17.119 how about how about how about Herkey's forty times you compare, 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:22.280 I think I was four tenths of a second behind, 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:28.800 about four two, about four seven. That's crazy, huh, Not crazy, dude? 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.639 All right? So I got one because the guys asked 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:36.679 me this morning to compare Everson Walls to Trayvon Dicks, 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.240 and my answer was, I think Trayvon might be a 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.000 little faster. Faster, maybe Walls was, but they caught the 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:49.000 ball about the same and had some great anticipation. Anticipation 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.960 he's got. And one of the things that Trayvon said 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.600 is and you said it, uh, he said? And I 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:59.840 got good guys around me, And I mentioned that six 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:06.439 six to eleven two tall Jones standing in front of 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.000 them all the time, Harvard Martin coming around there like 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.080 a two two trainer. That was good stuff there, all right. 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.719 So you set me up well then, okay, because and 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:16.639 I guess it was because Jimmy Johnson was in the 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.960 house the other day and then Cowboys playing the Eagles. 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:25.560 It reminded me one of the best Cowboys games and 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.280 we talked about a little bit the other day. The 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.320 ninety two season when they lost to the Eagles in 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.800 a Monday night game thirty one seven earlier in the season. 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.480 Month later, came back to Texas Stadium, Cowboys won handily, 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.720 and then in the Divisional playoff round of the playoffs 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.880 that Cowboys played the Eagles again, and it was one 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.400 of this set the tone for that Super Bowl run. 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.200 And it was the way the defense played on that 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.439 day with Randall Cunningham at quarterback for the Eagles, and 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.880 there was just something about Monday night and Jimmy being 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:56.960 in the house and Jalen Hurts on the other side 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.200 and the way this defense was playing. I had a 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.520 flashback to that game. Well, if you recall when Randall 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.359 was coming off the field in that game, he had 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:10.760 the same look that Jayleen exactly. It was just hopelessness, 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.000 you know. And I was like, Man, I remember thinking 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:17.160