WEBVTT - Episode 17: Tony Finau 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from paying. They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.120 much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:05.800 hit any shot. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.520 I kind of want we're gonna be able to tell 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:09.560 some fun stories about what goes on here to help 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:10.640 golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.040 Welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Bacon. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:15.840 That is Marty Jerts, and we are in the Ping 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:16.480 Tour truck. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.960 Marty. Tony Fena is joining us. How about that? 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:19.959 Welcome up? 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:21.160 Thank you guys, Thanks for having me. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:21.800 Tony. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:23.400 I want to get into a lot of stuff with 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.000 you because I'm very interested in your life and I 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.440 feel like I've heard Adjason stories about the Tony Finow experience, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.640 but I don't know if I've ever really like solidified 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.479 how it all went down. You turned pro at seventeen, yes, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.720 and you, I mean you turned pro because you had 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.599 this opportunity to make a lot of money in Vegas. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.600 Were you playing competitive golf? Like, how did that whole 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:43.280 thing go down? 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:43.640 Yeah? 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.360 I mean I was playing competitive golf, but I wasn't 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.920 playing professional golf. You know, I was playing junior golf. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:53.000 I was seventeen years old. Basically, what happened was I 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.240 had an opportunity to play in this ultimate game they 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.440 called it, which was like a high stakes game. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:58.960 How'd you get in? How'd you get invited? 0:00:59.040 --> 0:00:59.200 Yeah? 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.000 I got invited by someone in Utah reached out to 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.280 my dad. My brother and I were I would say 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.400 popular golf figures and just in Utah, being standout golfers 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.680 in Utah. But you know, someone had reached out and 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.880 said that they would fund us playing in that tournament. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.240 You know, I think it was like fifty thousand dollars, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.240 so just to get in, and he was interested in funding. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.040 Both my brother and I had to play in the tournament. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.119 And if you get to the final twelve guys, then 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.480 you have to make a choice at that time if 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.760 you wanted to win the two million dollars which is 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.120 at the end of the tunnel, if you won the 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:31.520 whole thing. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:34.679 So my dad pitched it to my brother and I. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.280 I didn't know how I felt about it, but my 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:40.920 dad was like, well, we're gonna do it, so so yeah, exactly. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.319 So we entered the tournament and lo and behold, I 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.120 was one of the final twelve guys. I won my 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.080 first two matches pretty convincingly, and so then I was 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.360 I had a one to twelfth chance, if you will, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.840 to win two million dollars, which at that time, this 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.000 is in two thousand and seven. You know, we're playing 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.880 for two million dollars now, but this is I mean 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.240 almost talking twenty years ago. I mean the season was winning, yeah, exactly, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.559 you know, so obviously a lot of money. I didn't 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.799 come from money. And so basically when we were faced 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.200 with that choice, I had already verbally committed to play 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.480 at BYU, played college golf at BYU, so my dreams 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.440 and everything were to play golf. But I knew I 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.480 wasn't ready to play professional golf, you know, I wanted to. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.120 But anyways, we had a meeting with my parents, you know, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.519 my seven siblings and myself, and because this is a 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.880 big choice, you know, a lot of my family sacrificed 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.760 a lot for me, and my parents definitely, but they 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.000 basically were like, what do you want to do? And 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.560 I was like, well, I'm going to college, you know, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.040 and that's how I feel about it. And again my 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.160 parents were like, yeah, nice, trive, but you're not You're 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:40.680 actually gonna turn pro and you're gonna try and win 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:41.400 two million dollars. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.480 So that's that's pretty much how it happened. And I 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:44.440 ended up playing in the event. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.200 And the cool thing about that was, I, you know, 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.520 I made friends with some guys that are still on tour. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.959 Scott Percy won. I played in a group with Kevin Strulman. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.640 Spencer Levine was also in the field of the final twelve. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.400 I'm missing somebody else that's a prominent figure out here. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.720 But anyways, I made some friends there. But after that 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.080 I was on my way, you know, And it's been 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.440 a heck of a journey being seventeen years old playing 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.919 for you know, yeah, playing for two million dollars is 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.240 one thing, and then my life, you know, I had 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.440 to mature fast as a seventeen year old. But that's how, 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.120 that's how, that's the story of me turning pro. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.240 When when you were when you get to twelve and 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.960 you're having these as a seventeen year old, you're having 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.239 these like pretty intense conversation with your family. I could 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.000 only imagine what was the level of pressure you were feeling, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.720 knowing that if I can go on and win this thing, 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.000 it's going to change my entire family's life forever. I mean, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.560 I'm assuming that had to have weighed heavy on the shoulder. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.800 Yeah, no doubt, Yeah, no doubt. You know, I think 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.600 there's definitely some pressure there. I look back now, and 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.560 but it's all grooved me to be the person and 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.800 player that I am today. You know, again, coming from 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.360 very little as far as financial status, that was an 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.480 opportunity to to kind of take our family out of 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.080 the out of the hole and move forward in life. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:04.080 But all those experience, of all those experiences early in 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:08.360 my career just molded me into maturing and being the 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:09.440 person and player that I am. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:10.640 Today, Tony. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.000 What else was there between that event and getting to 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.560 the tour that that we didn't see on Netflix? 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:15.880 Yeah? 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.440 Because I don't know about you, Shane. I love watching 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.440 yeah your story on Netflix. What else was in there? Man? 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.120 I know we played in some of the same mini 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.280 tours for a while, senior name around Arizona Golf, a 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.840 lot of Monday qualifiers, the Big break. What was kind 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.440 of what else was between there on that journey? 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:30.719 Yeah? 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.479 I mean all of that, you know, but basically six 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.839 years of mini tour life and mini tour golf, you know, 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.919 and and in those six years, I got married and 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.039 had two kids in that in that timeframe. So a 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.000 lot happened in my personal life, a lot happened in 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.400 my professional life. You know, I was trying to every 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.719 year I went to qualifying school and field. You know, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.680 I went through qualifying school six years in a row 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.960 and never got through second stage. You know, I would 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.360 get through first and not get through second. I wouldn't 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:56.719 even get through first one of the years I would 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.200 get through first again not get through second. So yeah, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.160 but you know, in twenty thirteen, I finally got through 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.359 qualifying school and and I'm asked all the time, like, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.320 what's your greatest accomplishment in golf? You know, I get 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:10.760 the ass all that all the time now having won 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.200 you know, PGA Tour events and done some pretty cool things. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.000 And I would say, in twenty thirteen, getting past second stage, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.120 I knew that there was light at the end of 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.280 the tunnel because I was like, now I'm going to 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.640 have a chance to actually do something with my career, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.880 you know, like playing miniature golf is not a glamorous 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.800 like PGA tour life. You know, it's like sleeping in 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:31.080 your car. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:31.919 Man. You guys have heard it. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.120 And I've done all of it, right, staying at super 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.200 suspect hotels, sometimes just staying like I played Canadian Tour 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.000 in twenty thirteen before you know, Fall came around and 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.040 played Q school and I had some friends. I mean 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.880 we would stay three, four of us in one room, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.479 you know of you know Fort Knox one year, you know, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.240 me and my buddy stayed in our car, right, So 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.440 all of those stories are in those six years are 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:54.960 what I went through, you know, and I was doing 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.560 that with a wife and two kids, so you know, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.440 obviously the pressure at that time was pretty extreme. But 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.120 you know, before I married my wife, I basically told her, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.919 I was like, look like, I'm riding this thing to 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.960 the will's fall off. Funny, there ain't nothing there ain't 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:10.760 nothing else that I know. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:11.080 How to do. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:12.880 This is my craft. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:13.960 This is it right here. 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.719 So if I'm the one that you want to be with, 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.680 just know that, you know, this is the this is 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.200 what we're doing. So I obviously I have an amazing wife, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.240 and you guys saw that on Netflix Full Swing. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.200 You know, she's unbelievable. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.200 So she's been super supportive and I wouldn't have been 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.839 able to do it without her, you know, just the 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.000 support that she's had back at home taking care of 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.520 the kids while I'm trying to pursue my career. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.839 But that's what those six years were like. You know, it's. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.159 Extremely hard, and I look back now and it's like, again, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.000 that's what made me. You know, like I've gone through 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.400 a lot on the PGA tour and I feel like 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.479 I've proved myself, continued to prove myself. But the hardest 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.960 times of my career were to get here. Yeah, you know, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.800 it wasn't to learn how to win. It wasn't all 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.400 these other stuff, because this is different type of pressure 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.520 that we're dealing with. To me, that was like real 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.440 life pressure. I've got kids to take take care of. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.320 I got a wife to take care of. So it's 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.000 a whole different type of pressure that I'm dealing with 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.599 now than I was during those six years of just 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:08.680 trying to be somebody. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.520 Yeah, Tony, where was that second stage? 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:12.000 What court? 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.280 And how close were you that year? 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:13.600 Yeah? 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:18.400 That plantation Preserve is in Fort Lauderdale. Oh yeah, I 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.520 can't forget my wife. Yeah, my wife reminds me that 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.120 all the time, Like I forget everything. It's like, well, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.720 you always remember your golf stuff. It's true, but yeah, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.760 Plantation Preserve. I was in by a couple of shots 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.760 going to the final round, and I knew, you know, 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.360 I end up shooting sixty nine in the final round, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.400 and I ended up getting in I think by whatever 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.520 it was five. You know, I was comfortably I was 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.280 company into me. I might have got in by even 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.000 more than that, but I was comfortably in. So it 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.680 was a great It was a great feeling finally to 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.200 be able to break through after just heartache and disappointment 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.520 of not feeling like, you know, I was living up 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.320 to the level that I should be playing playing to. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.400 But it also just tells you how hard it is 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.400 to make it to the PGA Tour. I think there's 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:04.240 a lot of great players that just haven't taken advantage 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.760 of the opportunity and that unfortunately aren't playing the PGA 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.840 tool But they're amazing golfers. Yeah, but you know, you 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.160 have I think a small window of opportunity got to 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.160 jump through, and luckily for me, I was able to 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.239 do it finally help my seventh try Tony. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.120 When you when you go back to those years, those 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.280 six seven years you're playing Gayway Tour and you know, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.120 you get married, you have kids, You're you're telling your 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.360 wife like, this is what I'm doing. Were there are 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:27.960 moments and I can imagine there were probably a lot 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.320 of moments where you were doubting is this what I'm 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.640 going to do for a living? Did you have a 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.280 close call where you said, Okay, at the end of 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.959 twenty eleven or twenty ten, if it doesn't, if I 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.600 don't make enough money, or if I don't get through this, 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.360 maybe I will try to pursue something else. Was there 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.040 ever a moment where you were thinking that or was 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.360 it always I can improve, I can get better? And 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.280 when where was that moment where you saw that sign like, 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.880 oh okay, I'm close. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.320 Yeah, that's a great question. You know, I think I 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.840 can't say that I ever consider doing anything else. Okay, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.400 I can say for certain again, you know, I I 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.360 from the time I was eight years old pretty much on, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.200 I wanted to be a professional golfer, and I and 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.040 my whole life was wrapped around this idea that I 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.600 would and belief that I could do it, and the 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.080 work ethic was there to back it up. So I 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.240 still had enough results in junior golf. I feel like 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.920 and in the professional game. You know, I was still 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.720 winning many two events to tell myself that I could 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:28.040 do it. So I think it was still more when 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.760 not if, you know, in those situations. And so luckily 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.120 for me, I think I was just stubborn enough. The 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.160 way I see it, I was just stubborn enough to 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.440 think that I was going to be a great player 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.320 in this game, you know, and whether people were telling 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.480 me that or not. And obviously when you're seventeen years 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.679 old like me in Utah. First of all, Utah is 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:45.839 not a place that you're going to say one of 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:47.400 the best players of the world is going to come 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.080 out of this, right right, yeah, right's that's the first thing. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.320 And the second thing is not a seven especially not 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:53.200 a seventeen year old. 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:53.880 You know. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.480 We've heard some of the stories of kids that I've 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.520 turned pro too young, But to me, it was like 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.360 it was more that I had the stubbornness and belief 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.000 that I could do it, you know, and that was 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.600 more important to me than what anybody else could tell 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.439 me at that time. So I honestly can say there 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.160 wasn't too much doubt. It was most of it. It 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.880 was hard, but there was nothing else I would rather 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.520 do than pursue this golf thing and try and make 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.599 it and trying to be the best golf player that 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.520 I could be. So again, I was fortunate that I 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.199 have a wife that supports me and through those trials, 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.800 and we're on this side of it now and we 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.120 have a whole different set of trials. But that part 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.439 of the life was something that's pretty crazy. And I 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.839 would say, to answer your the other part of your question, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.240 I think you know, in twenty eighteen, it's hard for 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.720 me to get away from this. Anytime you talk about 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.040 my ankle, everybody's like, I feel like I came on 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:51.240 the scene mostly because of my ankle. But in twenty 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:55.000 eighteen my first Masters. I watched my first Masters in 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.800 nineteen ninety seven, and I finally qualified for my first 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.800 Masters in two thousand and seven. Seventeen twenty years later, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:02.959 I'm finally playing in the Masters of a tournament that 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.000 I had watched my whole life, couldn't wait to play 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.440 in it. On the eve of that it happens to 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.679 my ankle. I end up finishing in the top ten, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.440 and so I think like my whole mindset shifted to, like, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.120 if I could do that in a major championship on 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.360 a bad wheel and just have the fortitude to finish 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.760 and play that well. Like that was like a turning 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.880 point in my career. I had already won on the tour, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.520 had some nice results and stuff, but I think that 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.160 truly changed. And then I got picked to play on 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.360 the Ryder Cup team that year. I had a winning 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.920 record in the Ryder Cup overseas, Like there were just 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.560 things that stacked up, I think to allow me to 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.600 believe that I could take my game continue to progress. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.560 So I would say that that was like a true 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:45.600 turning point in my life. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.760 When people if you don't play well on a Sunday 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.160 at a major, or let's say you struggle at a 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.400 Ryder Cup or a big event, right and you hear 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.320 critics or people that talk about golf like us say 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.120 maybe the pressure got to them. Do you laugh at that? 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.920 Considering the amount of pressure you had felt as you 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.760 built up to this point, knowing that you know you're 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.400 supporting a family, and ye're supporting your family and your 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.800 parents at times like I can only imagine the level 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.120 of pressure you felt in twenty eleven. In twenty ten, 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.200 when nobody knew who Tony Finaw was it probably? You know, 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.120 it can only matter. It overshadows everything we're. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.400 Feel hundred percent. Life is all about perspective and the 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.800 perspective that I have. You know, most people have a 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.400 perspective of you from a bird's eye view, you know, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.199 when they come down to the ground and actually understand 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.439 what the journey that you've actually been through and been on, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.640 then it's not really about what people are saying up here, 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.760 you know, It's just mostly about for me, how do 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.920 I get better and move forward again? 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:39.679 That that's it. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.560 I go back to that stubbornness and that belief. I 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.240 have to be stubborn enough to just think that I 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.000 can do great things, you know, whether it's going to 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.280 happen or not. I think there is that level of 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:53.079 stubbornness and belief. But yeah, you know, critics are part 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.000 of sports, right, there's no way around it. And we 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.600 live in an era, social media era that is crazy. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.959 Everybody has an opinion about you. But that's what I 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.079 signed up for. I wanted to be under the spotlight. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.000 I wanted lights on me. I wanted people to see 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.480 my game. I want people to watch me, and if 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.680 people aren't criticizing what I'm doing, then I'm not doing 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:20.480 really anything right. So I understand that, and you know, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.560 it just comes with the territory, you know. And I 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.360 think some people look at it a negative thing. To me, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.520 it's all positive because it's like I'm doing something with 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.600 my life. You know, I didn't come from a lot. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.079 A lot of times I look at myself, I shouldn't 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.640 really be here right like, there's so many obstacles I 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.520 had to will come just to be in this place 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.520 right now. So there's not a lot that can be 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.000 said about me to me that will really rattle me, 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.720 just because of what I've been through. And another big 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.520 part of that also is my dad. My dad was 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.280 my biggest critic. He was my coach for the first, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.360 you know, a dozen years of my of my career 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.600 and of my life. And there's not a lot that 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.040 he hasn't said to me that somebody else can't say 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.280 that'll that'll make me feel a certain way about myself. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.520 So he pushed me to a level to get to 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.400 get me to where I am. And and so you know, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.320 you tried, you try to stay bulletproof through it all 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.680 as much as you can. We're only human. You know, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.000 I'm gonna hear things that I don't want to hear 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.880 about myself. I'm sure I'm gonna hear things people tell 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.640 me of things that I can and can't do. But 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.600 it's part of It's part of this experience that I'm 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.000 having through through the journey, and it all just is 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.920 part of the part of the process of being better 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:31.880 and becoming better. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.920 Tony, do you ever do you ever get burnt out? Like, 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.320 oh man played a lot of golf, or things aren't 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.440 going my game, good game, I need to take some 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.600 time off. To me on the outside looking in, it 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.680 looks like you're kind of like John Rahm, like after 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.080 he won the Master's like I'll be chipping and putting 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.160 tomorrow afternoon. And when your kid when you went in Mexico, 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.840 we saw that video you out caddying with your kids. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.720 After that, I mean, are you just is it just 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.800 golf junkie or do you ever get burnt out and 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.880 need to take a little breather? No. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.720 I love playing golf. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.000 I enjoy playing it, and now that my son plays, 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.400 it's hard for me to not be on a golf course, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.760 you know. And and I'll even say to myself. You know, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.280 I'm not going to play this fall, you know, and 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.360 then you know my wife, and my wife is just 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.440 like rolling her like here we go again, right. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:13.720 You know. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.240 I enjoy playing. I enjoy the competition. I enjoy the 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.960 juices and what it brings out of me. And so 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.560 just for that purpose, and I fell in love with 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.640 this game playing in the evening with my dad and 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.240 my brother with nobody else around. So I just I 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.240 think I truly respect the game for what it is, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.880 you know, and the challenge that it is, and the 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.479 beauty that it presents at every turn, and the tragedies 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.200 that it's you know, presents. I truly enjoy the game. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.720 I can't say I'm like a swing junkie, you know. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.480 I'm studying golf swings and I know that much about 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.840 the history of the game. But I truly love playing golf, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.680 you know, like I enjoy it. I'll take some time 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.640 off when I feel like I do need to, and 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.600 sometimes it's more of a mental, mental thing than physical. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:15:58.800 You know. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.720 It's not like I'm tired physically. It's like I could 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.840 use a few days off, you know, just to reset 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.160 my mind. Because when you do it for a living. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.560 It's a whole different there's a whole different vibe that 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.080 comes with it, you know, and if you don't have 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.760 the same perspective that you've had since you were a 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.960 kid of just trying to enjoy it. So sometimes you 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.520 just have to take a few days off and recognize 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:20.920 the blessing that it is to be playing the game, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.760 and then you get right back after it. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.160 You talk about playing golf with your brother and with 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.560 your dad growing up, and you say you love the 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.440 game playing golf, I mean, you play competitive golf. You 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.880 got fans out there, some say normal stuff, some say 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.360 not so normal stuff. You have to deal with all 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.800 of that. Is your happiness on the golf course now, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.920 playing with your son, is that when you're you know, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.160 ten out of ten in terms of loving the game. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:41.960 Yeah, no doubt. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.960 You know, my happiness of being with my family, no question, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.280 no matter what we're doing. But being on a golf 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.000 course with my son is the greatest time. I think 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.400 that's the coolest thing that he loves what I love authentically, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.120 you know, like he's been around the game since he 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:54.520 was a right baby. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.320 That's great. Pictures of him sitting on the range with 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.200 me while I'm hitting in the mini tour events, right. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.000 I mean, whether we're in Chicago, driving through Illinois, you know, 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.200 a lot of these mini tours were playing, he would 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.880 just be sitting right next to the golf balls while 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.560 I'm grinding away. But he's been around the game his 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.560 whole life, so he just organically. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:12.920 I think all of our. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.280 Our first heroes are our fathers if they're around. I 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.040 was the same way, and so my oldest son is 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.080 the same way. He grew up watching me do this golfing, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:25.160 and so organically he's now loves the game. He plays 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.000 in tournaments and it's some of the greatest moments of 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.360 my life just being out there playing with him. And 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.800 it's almost like deja vuf I was with my dad 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.919 and now you know, it's it's kind of like a 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:37.840 full circle moment. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.960 It's it's weird, by the way, I just want to 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.680 say this, being a parent when you still feel young 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.960 and then you have moments where you're like, I'm doing this, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.080 you recognize me, you know, and sometimes you're like, I'm 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.520 not supposed to be this sole Like this kid's looking 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:53.800 at me. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:54.800 You know. It's just so. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.919 Strange that it does actually happen like that, That happens 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:57.400 quick to. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.800 Are you more nervous if let's say you got a 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.359 foot to win a tournament, or you're you're spectating your 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.760 kid he's got a twelve footter to win the tournament. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.320 Yeah, I'm a lot more nervous watching than I am playing. Yeah, 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.640 you have you have more control over when you're playing. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.959 You don't have any control when you're watching. So I 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:14.879 definitely felt that. I get asked that quite a bit 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.480 when I'm out watching and and people ask me that, 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.600 And there's no question, I'm way more nervous watching my 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:21.560 son than I am playing. 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.440 Tony your fifty second on the PGA Tour this year. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.280 And driving distance, we all know your golf swinging. We 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.280 all know it's pretty short. It's been built for efficiency. 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.520 If you wanted to be number one and driving distance 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:32.720 on the PGA Tour, could you be? 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.879 Yeah, I could be number one if I wanted to 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.159 be My accuracy. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.400 With that swing like its accuracy. 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.199 Yeah, my accuracy would go down quite a bit. But 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.080 if I if I only had the goal of being 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.239 number one and driving distance ID one hundred percent could be. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.320 But I'm more interested in scoring and and playing within 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.920 myself than I am uh in driving, you know, driving 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:52.400 the golf ball. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:53.960 I'll let it. I'll let it go every now. 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.199 And again, But most of the time my swing is 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.920 just more about efficiency than it is about power. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.199 When did that switch? When did you realize that you 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.639 needed to be more efficient with the golf swing. I mean, 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.879 you're a big guy, you're a strong guy, you're tall, 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.680 you can obviously get it way out, You've got long arms. Yeah, 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.400 but I mean the golf swing a lot like gen Ram, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:13.800 who I know, you play a decent amount of golf with. 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.600 There is efficiency built in back golf swing way more 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.480 than everything else you'd want to maybe chase. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.359 Yeah, no question. I found it out right after my 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.480 first year on the PGA Tour. I got away with 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.240 hitting it offline on the corn Ferry Tour and playing 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:28.240 out of the right. You could play out of the 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.400 rough on the corn for right. I learned real fast 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:31.840 you can't play out of the rough and compete at 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:33.280 a high level on the PGA Tour. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:34.199 That was the difference. 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.000 Yeah, you know, you actually sometimes had to hack out 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:41.000 and you can't hit the green right. So after the 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.120 first year I could have been dead last in driving accuracy. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:45.919 I think I was either first or second in distance 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.360 and almost dead last in accuracy. So my coach board 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.639 Summers and I attacked that, and he was. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:52.240 Straight up with me. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.440 He said, look, if you don't learn how to drive 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.320 the ball straight or tony, you're just not going to 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.000 be a great player. You know you can't. You can 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.720 only play so well from where you're playing from. You're 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.800 playing as good as you can from the places you're 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.600 playing from. And I and I grew up scrambling, you know, 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:07.240 That's that was a good thing about hitting it offline, 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:08.639 as I always hit off lines since I was a kid. 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.440 I hit it far, but I hit it everywhere. So 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.720 I learned how to scramble. But I needed to hit 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:15.200 it in the fairway to compete at a high level. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.040 So that's that's why. And it wasn't intentional that I 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.000 short in my back swing. It was just I started 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.919 to hit a little low fade the second year, the 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.800 third year, and I ended up learning like, oh, I 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.440 think I still hit it far enough and I don't 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.800 have to worry about smashing it every hole, right, So 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.000 my mindset started to change throughout the seasons on the 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.199 PGA tour and that's pretty much it. And now it's 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.240 brought me to today where I just try to continue 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.120 to learn and groove, groove my my action. 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.080 Marty, I know you're obsessed with like the golf swing 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.919 and diving into golf. I know you're an athlete in 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.159 your sports fan as well. When you want. When I 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:54.159 watched Tony hit drives, it feels like Lebron level. You know, 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.320 Lebron jumps near he's gonna lay it up and then 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.000 he you know, finishes around the rim or like Judge, Yeah, 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.840 Judge kind of makes It's a pretty good swing at 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:01.920 a ball and all of a sudden it's in the 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.920 upper deck totally. Just that like flick motion that Tony has. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:06.840 The golf ball doesn't feel like it's going to go 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:11.560 through twenty yet it's still obviously, I mean, it's still 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:12.440 plenty far. 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:13.400 For PG standards. 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:15.199 It was fun a couple of years ago. You were 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.080 having fun in the Utah cranking some up, you know, carrying. 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.040 Some about four hundred right, Yeah, that's right. 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:20.760 It's still in there. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:21.680 Yeah, still there. 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.720 But it's a good example of there's that you know 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.359 to to to play the type of golf which is 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.560 your goal and you and Boyd worked on there's a 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.399 sweet spot there, like you only need to hit it 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.919 far enough and then it's about managing it and you 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.359 guys really you know travel that journey really well. One 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.320 of the things Tony you know from your stats, I 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.480 don't even know if you know this or not, is 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.960 that you are the best player in terms of like 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:48.400 proximity of the whole strokes game from the rough right. So, uh, 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.200 you know you talked about growing, you know, kind of 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.760 scrambling and scoring. What do you think gives you that 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.280 advantage long arms? You think it's like your your swing plane, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.639 your speed. Do you think you read the lies? Well? 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:00.960 Yeah, I would say it's the last one. 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.919 I read the last well, I think, yeah, I know, 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.080 I have not know exactly, but I have I have 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:08.760 a good understanding. I think how the golf is going 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.879 to come out just by looking at the lie and 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:11.600 getting over it. 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:13.600 So I didn't know that stat. 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.840 I can't say it's super surprising though, again but mostly 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.720 just because I grew up not hitting it straight, So 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:21.560 I think I had to learn how to hit it 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.400 out of rough. Not that it was pja too rough, 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:24.640 but I did learn how to hit out of long 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.479 grass and how to escape hit under trees and and 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:28.960 work the ball and stuff like that. And I had 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.199 to because I didn't hit it very straight. So but 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:32.840 it's worked out to my advantage because now that I 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.919 hit it straighter, I'm never concerned when I hit it 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.920 offline because I know how to recover. I've been doing 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.359 that since I was a kid, right, So learning how 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.320 to score, I would say, is the greatest skill in 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:48.880 golf is is scoring. You know, having the ability to score. 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:50.359 You know, a great swing is one thing, and a 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.080 great putting stroke and all those things, but the ability 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.480 to score is what the game is all about. You know, 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.040 can you score when you're not playing well? And if 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.359 you can, then you know, that's that's a good thing. 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:02.760 And I would say for the most part, I just 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:07.320 learned how to score because of. 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:07.360 How I grew up playing the game. 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.080 I just learned how to smash it and find it 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:11.760 and try and get it as close as I can, 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.480 or never really any technical thoughts or anything. And now 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:16.119 that I'm starting to learn and trying and starting to 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.879 groove it, I'm starting to become a more complete player. 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.119 And that's the great thing. I would say about golf 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:26.440 in general, this is such a long journey of becoming 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.400 a great player. You know, you can be your best 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.760 in your twenties. Yeah, you can be your best in 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.359 your thirties. And guys have already shown us Stuart Sink, 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.200 Lucas Glover, you can VJ Sing, you can be your 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:41.399 best in your forties. So you don't know where on 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.400 that thirty year path you're going to be your greatest. 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.920 So to me, it's like, just try to keep grooving 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.200 and keep getting better at what I'm good at, and 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:55.000 then hopefully my peaks are really good. And to me, 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:56.880 I feel like I've you know, I hit a peak 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.200 last year where I won like four times in a year, 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.600 and I think I'm starting to find my groove At 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.600 this age in my career. I've learned a lot about 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.880 myself and about my game, and and I think that 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.600 my peak is in front of me more so than 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:14.960 I feel like some of the greats of our game 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:16.119 it's behind them, you know. 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.640 I think for me it's actually forward. Because of the. 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.199 Journey that I've been on and all of the you know, 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.680 heartaches of just getting to the tour, I feel like 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:27.119 my best golf is in front of me. 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.680 You mentioned Boyd. I mean, you worked with them for 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.520 a long time as your swing coach, but he feels 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.760 like way more than a swing coach. What is that 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.440 relationship like, not just with Boyd, but with the entire 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:37.560 Summersed family. 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.680 Yeah, it kind of took me by storm. I hired 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:44.440 Boyd and he was just, you know, just barely Yeah, 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:48.000 well he was. He was barely even coaching for like 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:52.440 a year and then. But we've become great friends. He's 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.000 one of my closest friends. We basically call each other 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.200 family now. And I've kind of taken his kids under 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.960 my wing. We played a lot of rounds together with 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.880 Preston and Grace and camp great kids, and they've done 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.280 the same thing with my son in return, which is 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.880 kind of a cool thing. But to see their success, 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.679 and Boyd's been a great coach, He's been a great mentor. 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.280 I've I've never really had a short game guy. I 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.160 don't have one guy for different parts of my game. 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:17.960 It's just Boyd. 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:22.359 Yeah, And that's worked for me. You know, for other guys, 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.240 you know, they'd like other things. And that's again things 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.720 that I've just learned being out here. Everybody does it different. 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:31.600 Everybody thinks different, everybody feels different. They some guys need 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.200 the guy to do all the things, and I felt 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.960 like I've felt like throughout my career. You know, Boyd's 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.120 been enough and he's done a great job of just 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.240 just again on my journey. You know, this is is 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.440 not a like a sprint. You know, golf is such 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:49.119 a marathon that you know, sometimes people can look at 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:50.879 a certain player and say, how come this guy is 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.960 not as good as this guy? Or you know, and 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.879 as they say, comparison is like the biggest thief of joy. 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.679 So it's easy to compare yourself to other guys, but 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.520 it's not really that. It's like, I think I'm better 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.879 today and this year than I was last year. And 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.320 so that's actually what you're trying to do is just 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:11.560 be better than yourself and keep chasing that instead of 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.959 chasing like other stuff. So I think, but Boy's been 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:15.800 a great addition to that. 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.520 Yeah, Tony, when we talk about Boyd and you and 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.920 your relationship with him, you know a lot of our 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.480 fitters out there talk about, well, you know, how do 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.960 you marry fitting and coaching together. It's like one of 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.159 the biggest questions should I fit the player for this 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.359 swing they have today or the swing we want him 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.560 to have. I think a few examples from you is 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.720 you've changed, like, for example, your lyingle and your irons 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.600 by close to two degrees over a couple of years. 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.640 Here it is Boyd coming in saying, hey, let's change 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.160 your irons and change your swing at the same time. 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.879 Like what comes first? You tweak your irons, you tweaking 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.840 your swing both? What's that? 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:50.480 Yeah? 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:56.000 So Boyd's been great in teaching me this equipment always 0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.480 comes first. And what that means is, let's make sure 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.080 that it's not the equipment. The equipment's performing before we 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.600 make changes, you know. So like if I'm hitting a 0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:11.440 ball consistently with too much spin, is it the shaft? 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.760 Is it the Let's make sure that we're dialed in 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.600 on that first. It's always equipment, you know. And so 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.800 that's why it's so important to be with a equipment 0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.840 company that is the best, you know, like, and you 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.960 truly believe in their product and the team that you're 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.760 working with to where you tell them what you're feeling 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:31.880 and they can come and say, oh, well, we got 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.679 these options. This is what we think and work with them, right, 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.640 And that's where ping has been amazing for me. I've 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.520 been with you guys since twenty seventeen, and it's like 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.520 a family vibe. You know, I'm very comfortable being open 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.680 with you guys. Hey, my driving, My driver's spinning right now. 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.560 You know, just a couple of weeks ago, I had 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.560 this conversation with Ko. You know, I was like a 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.760 little bit spinning. I may not be swinging as hard 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.600 as I was a couple of years ago when we 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.240 had this shaft, So maybe I can try another a 0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:58.040 couple other shafts. 0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:58.240 Right. 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:02.840 So equipment is like at the very top, and that's 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.160 that's where board has taught me a lot, because I 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.040 again just coming from not a lot, and I think 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.240 whatever there was I played when I was a kid, 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.800 it was like I was playing five different irons from 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.240 different companies. I mean it was like whatever balls I 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.280 found in the trees. Right, it was like against and yeah, 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.439 out of that right, like a totally mixed bag. Like 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.040 sometimes you know, I never had the same clubs, but 0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.760 I've had to change my mindset into Okay, let's make 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.359 sure the equipment fits the style I like to play, 0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.520 and then it is about you. Yeah, but equipment, equipment 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:36.919 is like at the very top when it comes to 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:37.639 like fitting stuff. 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:38.120 Yeaheah. 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.400 I think a few fun examples. One number one, you're 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.120 the best player out here out of the rough. Maybe 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.680 that's new news you and use our blueprint iron and 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.360 irons very small hill to tell yes, And that's something 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.960 we always talked about when we're designing is hey, because 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.120 we're playing Arizona golf, not a lot of rough, it's 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.280 hard for us to relate to. Then you get out 0:28:54.280 --> 0:29:01.200 here the Shanees playing how import and that is right? 0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.600 I mean you're a great example of that. And then 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.680 working on your langle and then even with your putter, 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.080 right you and Boid have worked a lot on your 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.200 setup and we even designed a special feature in iping 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.000 for you that has that that moves the bubble level 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.160 you know, which is really funny. So it's been it's 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.120 been that relationship of the fitting set up. How important? 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.840 What's that p L d uh and we designed and 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.440 you helped design the answer two D and working with 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.880 Tony on that. So what has that process been? Like? 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:31.840 Tony's been great. 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.360 When I switched to the PLD, I got yeah A 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.360 lot of times you don't get a meeta results, but 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.320 I did get a meta results. Within the first couple 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.760 of months I had won again after a long drought, 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.520 and then I've been on a nice little run. But uh, 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.440 I've been very open with Tony on how I how 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.640 I feel with the putter, and he's been able to 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.720 mold and shape the putter to exactly how I want it, 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.120 which is uh, which is invaluable. You know, when you're 0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:01.960 playing for the amount of money, the legacy, the you know, 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.080 there's so much on the line for us each week. 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.320 Each week we have an opportunity to change our life, 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.120 and that starts from these little things. 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:11.240 You know, how do I get better? 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.480 And and so having a team again like Tony and 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.320 ping around every week to. 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.520 Help me groove it is like super cool. 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.440 But to be able to like have the model fit 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.360 my putting stroke, I think is extremely important. 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.800 That two D stands for deep, Like it's a deep answer. 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:28.720 That's what you were looking for. 0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.840 I'm saying I wanted a little thicker soul than just 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.000 the regular answer, and that's exactly what I have in mind. 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.560 Now, what are some features on there? You've You've used 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.920 Tony on the to help you with set up right. 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.040 Yeah, I think one of the most important things in 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.080 putting is being set up to it the same way. 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:48.920 So to help me with face am I actually put 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.000 an arrow right underneath on the bottom of the heel, 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.440 and I want the arrow to be facing around the 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.040 middle of my stance, you know, And so that's why 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.360 I know the face is square. If the arrow is 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.240 facing to my left foot or to my right foot, 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.520 I know where the face is. And so I think 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.920 face aim, especially on short puts, is extremely important. So 0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.800 we added a line there, and then I also have 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.640 a line right over the top of the shaft. So 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.560 my tennency is my hands to get a little too low. 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.320 I like them low, but there is a you know, 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.120 for me, there's still as sich thing as that's too low, 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.000 and if I see too much of the white, then 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:20.360 I know my hands are starting to get too low. 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:21.880 So there are just a couple of things there that 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.120 we've added to help me with my setup. 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.240 Yeah, you talked about your relationship with Ping. You came 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.440 out on tour, you were a Nike Golf guy. Nike 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.680 Golf goes away, so now you're a free agent. How 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.760 did your relationship kick off with Ping. 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.040 Yeah, so I never hit a pink club in my life. Okay, 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:43.440 this is twenty seven, this is twenty seventeen. I take 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.920 that back. I had the I had the old one Ping, 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.840 I two one iron, and I had that and I 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.560 used to go driver driver straight to one iron. So 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.720 I did have experience with it, and it was an 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:56.680 amazing experience with this thing. I still I can't believe 0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:57.320 I don't have that. 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.040 Still, Can I ask you how far you carry the 0:31:59.080 --> 0:31:59.800 old school one iron? 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.720 Back in the day, I was finding like three hundred yards? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:05.800 oh yeah, there's when I was a kid, there was 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.680 no holding back. It was you know, we all hit 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.600 the high Slinger. You know, it was no problem three 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.360 hundred yards. But so that was the one club I've 0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.640 ever hit of Ping. But outside of that, I never, 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.400 you know, never used Ping. So I was going through 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.520 all the different club manufacturers. I had them send me, 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.040 send me clubs. I wanted to try everything, just to 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.920 clear my conscious, to know that I truly have tried everything, 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.920 and then I get to pick what I think is 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.080 going to be best for me. I went to Scott, 0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:34.000 I went to Phoenix, went to headquarters at Ping, and 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.120 it was just a bucket list. I don't think we're 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.520 a listing where I just wanted to knock Ping off 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.640 the list, just so I know my conscious that I 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.920 tried Ping and I can get rid of them. As 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.440 soon as I start hitting these Eyeblades, like it was 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:47.680 like this light went off of my head. 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.080 I was like, are you serious? These things? Are these clubs? 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:50.680 Are that good? 0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.120 So then I hit the you know, Then I hit 0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.320 the woods. Then I hit the driver, and I was like, 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:56.480 all right, this is unbelievable. 0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:58.760 I didn't drive. I knew. 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.320 I knew right there, I said, I'm playing Ping, So 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.000 I had them. I played Eyeblades for the rest of 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.200 seventeen and then and then the rest of eighteen, and 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.600 at the end of eighteen is when they came out 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.680 with the blueprints and I put the blueprints straight in 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.680 and I've been playing the same set of blueprints since 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.400 twenty eighteen. So it was It's quite a cool story 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.160 that way, where I truly did try almost every club manufacturer, 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.280 and for me, Ping was the best. 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:25.480 Yeah, Tony, I don't even know if you know this, 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.160 but you also helped kicked off this idea where anyone 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.640 who gets fit at Ping now marries their golf ball 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.200 to their driver because remember the G four and er 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.520 Max driver. Yeah, you hit that thing awesome. 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:35.760 Yeah I did. 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.080 But I remember that story where it was spinning a 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.080 little too much and instead of changing the driver because 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:43.680 you didn't want to take loft off it, that's when 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.040 you started playing that left out ball. 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:45.640 That's right. 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.480 So we actually kind of used that as inspiration. I 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.600 started personally used the left up ball because it's the 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.240 same same thing, but we use that as inspiration. Now 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.600 everybody marries ball and club together, you know, thanks to you. 0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.560 I love that so good. Happy got good help. 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.280 Maybe as maybe asked for a bonus, he asked for 0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.720 like a slight contract bonus. Hey guys, if you guys 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:06.880 just a little bit more, you talk about your best 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.560 years or ahead of you, Tony, what's left? Like, what 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.480 do you do you write down goals every year? Do 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.640 you have that in mind? Or you just go out 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:14.960 and try to play because you feel like such a 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.960 cerebral guy, like you're just going out there and trying 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:18.240 to have some fun and play some good golf. 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:22.359 Yeah, and that's a I think that's the crazy thing. 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:22.640 You know. 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.960 Sometimes the misconception of either the nice guy or whatever 0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.839 the case. But I I don't think anybody at any 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:35.319 level is great or successful without without a bit of 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.120 a dog, without being a dog, but without without having 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:42.640 a plan, you know, and without executing it, without having 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.399 the work ethic, all those all the things that come 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.160 with being great at something. So I could see how 0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:48.840 I come off that way. But one hundred percent, you know, 0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.680 I make I make goals every year and and this year, 0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.880 you know, my my goal moving forward in my career 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.080 is to win major championships. 0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:57.600 You know. 0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.799 And that's where I feel like I'm at in the 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.719 pros of my career. And of course, you want to 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.120 set yourself up every week to win. I want to 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.160 win many more times on the PGA Tour, but major 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:14.560 championships are what the great players win, and to put 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.799 myself in that category, I need to win some. So 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:19.800 I don't want to win one. I don't want to 0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.040 win two. I want to win a few of them. 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:26.799 So my biggest thing is Number one, stay healthy. I 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.799 think I've been fortunate in my career up to this point. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.319 I'm about to start my tenth season. I haven't had 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.800 any major injuries, so I think that that's extremely important 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:35.520 for me for the next dozen years of my career. 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:37.960 I think if that's the case, I'm going to have 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.479 a chance to win some major championships. So my health, 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.960 I would say, is at the very top. And if 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:44.960 if I'm healthy, I think for the next dozen years, 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.600 then then I moved to the golf portion of it 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.799 and make sure that no stone is unturned when it 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.640 comes to my game and trying to continue to progress, 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.319 continue to improve, and and and knock off some major 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.359 championships in my in my career. 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.000 What do you do? What do you do from investment side, 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:06.080 on your time, investment on your fitness side to make 0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:07.959 sure you stay injury for you? And how does BOYD 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.560 weave into that or swing mechanics and things of that nature. 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:14.920 Yeah, well boy doesn't doesn't help me a lot with 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:18.040 with nutrition or with working out or anything. 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:18.239 You know. 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.719 I've got a trainer that I use, Stuart Love. I've 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.279 been with him for seven years nice, so he's He's 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.120 been a huge help as far as that department goes. 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.919 With the lifestyle that I have on the road, it's 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.080 a lot easier for me to work out, honestly than 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.080 than when I'm at home because I'm with my kids 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.960 a lot. Yeah, you know, we're together all the time. 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.399 When I'm home, I have to sprinkle it in before 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.839 they wake up late at night, you know. So it's 0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.360 it's just it's just making sure I get it in 0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.919 when I can, you know. And it's but it's it's 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:49.759 the most important thing that you have, you know, our 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.359 is our health. So I know that that's the case 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.400 for me, and I try to stay on top of it. 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.480 My diet has gotten better, i would say, every year 0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.239 and every season of my career, just because you know, 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.560 you don't want that old age to slow you down, 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:03.279 you know, And. 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.200 So I've tried to eat better. I've tried different types. 0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.880 Of diets to see how my body reacts to it, 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:11.160 and again just trying to figure out all of that. 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.719 But I've worked hard to stay in shape, and you 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:16.759 have to at this level to be to be any good. 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.000 What's your current diet thought right now? Where are we 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:20.760 at right now, Tony? 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.480 Yeah, So I was on the carnivore diet for six weeks. 0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.040 I just stopped that a couple of weeks ago. 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:29.359 So that's just that's just meat and vegetables, No it's 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.560 just meat, just meat. 0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.680 Yeah, so real quick, what is the breakfast? Like, what's bread? Yeah? 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:38.080 So I would eat I only had two mills sixteen 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.120 so so breakfast, I'd eat a sixteen ounce rabbi, three 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.799 strips of bacon, and either like a chicken. 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:48.000 Thigh or like two or three eggs. This awesome. 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.080 And then I would only beef jerky throughout my like 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.720 while I while I practice, and then at night I'd 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.799 have like maybe some lamb chops and like a couple 0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.480 of strips of bacon. Yeah, and then true carnival. There's 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.040 like levels to this, and I don't want to get 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.240 too far, too deep into it. Two carnivores only eat beef, 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.360 which is from the cow, and they'll eat nose to 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:13.279 tail meaning everything. I'm not extreme like that. I like, 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.520 I thought it was hard enough just to eat meat, 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.200 you know, So I I'm fine with, you know, adding pork, 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.560 and I ate lamb, and I ate chicken and fish, 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.799 you know. So I was kind of the next level 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.920 down from the extreme carnivores. But I thought there was 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:27.920 a lot of great things to it. 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:28.200 You know. 0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.200 I lost twelve pounds, but it mostly you cut out 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:36.600 carbs and vegetables and and sugars, you know, And. 0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.520 So I thought that. I thought it was great. 0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.359 I took what I liked from it, and I'm now 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.560 into a different phase where, you know, I like fruits 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.279 way too much to just totally get. 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.160 Rid of them. I think it's the great the greatest 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.439 source of sugar that you could have. So I've had. 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.359 I'm now added fruit and some vegetables back into my 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.680 back into my diet. But it was a it was 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:57.520 a good diet while it lasted. I thought it had 0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:58.240 some great benefits. 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.000 Is it easy for you to stay disciplined with that stuff? 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.439 Are you good about that? Yeah? 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.120 I am pretty disciplined when it comes to that because 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.439 I want to, I truly want to understand if it's 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.480 working for me or yeah, I want to see what's 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.839 really happening to my body. If I'm not disciplined enough, 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.800 I'm not really going to understand if it's actually working. 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.759 So for six straight, for four straight weeks, I was 0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.000 hardcore carnivore. For the two weeks after that, I added 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.200 fruit because I felt I actually felt like I had 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.719 to like my I think my sugar level was my 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.279 glucose And this is again I was in the middle 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.799 of the season, like I probably shouldn't be trying this 0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.239 stuff like that and being that disciplined. 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:33.759 But there's never really a good time to to. 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.640 Try if you guys haven't had an off season, like, yeah, 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.920 twenty five years exactly, so good news to take some 0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:39.719 time off this ball. 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.120 It's one of the fun things I've loved Tony about 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.040 having you and other players on is how much you 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.359 guys do experiment, Like, you know, it's like self experimentation, 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.480 whether it's on diet, routine, swinging, training aids. 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:51.799 You name it. 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:52.880 You know, you got to take a little bit of 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:54.120 risk once a while, experiment. 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.600 I would say guys aren't scared to change. I think 0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.560 they truly know. Again, they're stubborn enough to know how 0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.919 good they are and great at what they do, and 0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.759 and if they think something is going to be better 0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:07.319 for them, then they're not. 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:08.960 They're not scared to try it, Tony. 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.640 How's a sneaker collection? Is it? 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.160 Yeah? It's pretty Is it extensive? 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.480 It's pretty good. It's not that extensive. I do have 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.800 a pretty nice Jordan collection, but it's mostly aj One's 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:25.040 high tops and low tops. Okay, some fives, some elevens 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.280 because I only collect the ones. 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:28.200 I'm actually going to wear. 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.279 Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm not like a Jordan guy 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.799 where it's like I have the one through thirteen and 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.120 you know all the different color waves. I actually get 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.640 the shoes I wear right right, So yeah, but it's 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.759 pretty solid, you know, thanks to Nike and Jordan. I 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.279 you know, I get the get shoes for free. 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:44.240 So it's kind of nice. 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.919 Tony, you're the man. We appreciate you taking some time. 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.000 Keep crushing it. Fun to watch, fun to listen to 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.600 your chat about it too. I mean, what are a 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.000 unique journey. It's been uh, it's been fun to watch. 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.120 I'm you know what, I'm excited to see too. I'm 0:40:56.120 --> 0:41:01.439 excited to see Preston playing golf and raw. It's gonna 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.320 look like when he turns professional. Very different journey. 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.120 But we appreciate the time so much. Thanks, thanks for 0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.799 having me. Thanks m HM