WEBVTT - Episode 46: Your Questions Answered 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:01.240 The guys from Ping. 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:03.880 They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.600 kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.520 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.280 Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds podcast. I'm Shane Bacon. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.279 That is Marty Jerts, and we don't have a guest today. Marty, 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:17.000 you know what that means. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.920 We get to deep dive on some technical stuff. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:21.880 We got some q and a's. We sent a thing 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:23.480 out on social media and said, you know, if you 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.520 have questions for us about equipment or some of the 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.960 stuff we talked about on the podcast, answer, We'll do 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:29.800 it again in a few months, So keep an eye 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.800 out on socials for that. The first question that was 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.000 on Facebook from Brian I liked because I think you 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.479 and I are now in this camp together. 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:38.839 It says, I. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.200 Don't know if it was talking about you, Marty. Play 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.800 two drivers, Please descript, Please describe the differences in the drivers. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.919 We now play two drivers in our bag and I've 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.760 been doing it now for a couple of months. I'll 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.880 let you start on terms of the differences in your drivers. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.200 Yeah, no, it's pretty fun. I mean one is to 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.720 maximize distance for the most part. So it's forty five 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.800 and three quarters inches, and that's my gamer like you know, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.280 full max sen driver. And then I was looking at 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.320 data Shane. I think we talked about on the pod 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.119 which which showed that for players who hit the ball 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.720 three hundred yards or further, you hit your three wood 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:18.039 off the tee on average about ninety percent of the time. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.120 And for my own personal courses I played back home 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.240 in Arizona, it's even a little bit higher, like ninety 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:23.480 five percent of the time I hit off the t 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.160 So I built a twelve degree G four to thirty max. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:28.960 Put it in the is your first one? 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:30.240 Is your first one a ten k? 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.720 It's ten k your gamer's a ten ten K ten 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.880 point five in the big minus keeps the face a 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.560 little bit open, built to maximize distance. Then you know, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.759 we're kind of calling this the Thriver three wood driver 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.600 like that. So twelve degree max in the flat dot 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.200 position tour two point zero blacks seventy five x yeah, 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.840 forty three inches, OK. And I just it's not built 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.080 to maximize distance. It's because I hit it off the 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:58.680 t I t at really low and just kind of 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.960 chip it down there in It's kind of like an 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.440 anti anxiety club for me. We built yours pretty similar. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.160 Almost the exact same. I mean, I was gonna say 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:07.600 forty three. It's twelve degrees. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:08.240 I love it. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.560 It's funny with the club I play in Connecticut. The 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.280 first part part five you play, you kind of send 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.839 it over the trees and if you have to get 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.400 one to be able to go for in two because 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.320 there's water short of the green. First time I had 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.919 this second driver that would you call it the Thriver Drivers. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:24.880 The first time I had the Thriver in the bag, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.160 I hit a good one over the trees, but it's 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.240 a downhill lie, so the balls kind of sitting sitting 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:30.520 kind of. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.079 Above your feet. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.120 You're kind of below it. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:32.560 Yep. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.639 And I pulled the twelve degree out. I was like, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.000 let's just see, let's see if I can hit this shot, 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:38.480 which is tough. And I hit a good shot and 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:39.880 hit it one of the green side bunkers and got 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.560 it up and down for Birdie, And I told myself, 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.480 if you can hit it here, you could kind of 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.600 hit it anywhere. And it's a it's such a great club. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.000 You can tee it lowep and kind of squeeze it 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.680 out there. I've also heard it that I can hit it. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.840 I can tee it a little higher and it promotes 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.639 my draw absolutely, which I don't love hitting, so it's 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.040 an easier club for me to draw. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.640 Yes, totally. So yeah, you can use it. It just 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.480 has a lot of diversity to it. I think the 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.520 fun thing for the listener to tease out from this 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.400 is that your priority in your bag should be built 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.240 based on how you know how far you hit it. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.160 This is one of those really cool insights from big data, 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.000 because without big data, we couldn't have answered this question. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.079 And so I think it's something it's not for. It's 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.960 not if you don't drive the ball let's say two 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.280 seventy or further, it's probably not the right thing to 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.160 consider because you need to hit your three wood off 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.119 the ground a lot, whether it's a long part three 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.400 second shine to part four, second shine to part five. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.000 But the longer you hit it, the less you should 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.160 prioritize three with off the ground because part fives I'm 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.120 hitting you know, three iron in four long irons in 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.120 things of that nature and I have a lot of 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.800 T balls. I need to hit that like two seventy five, 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:51.000 two eighty where my a big driver, the dispersion is 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.160 going to be a lot tighter than playing the three 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:54.119 wood in that scenario. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.520 I heard players of the Masters that were putting in 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.680 a second drive around because again some of the whole 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.600 squeeze in at three fifty three twenty. So you're seeing 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.920 even tour guys do this as well. I think this 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.040 is gonna be the next thing you think about. The 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.640 iteration through the bag. Seven wood was hot a couple 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.120 of years ago, and I know a lot of players 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.200 are still playing at the driving iron was really hot 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.480 a few years ago. It feels like the thriver, if 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:15.760 you will is thing. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.760 Yeah, definitely out here on tour. It's kind of like, uh, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.080 you know you can you can swap it out like Augusta. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.120 There's literally probably no three wood shots, right, you know, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:25.600 like a two if you get it down there, you're 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:26.880 gonna hit an iron or something. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.600 Kind of the only spot ten t but maybe you can. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.320 That's the one where you can take the thriver and 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.160 you get a little draw spin on you. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.279 You need to like, you need to really like get 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.040 that dialed in to your repertoire. 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:38.960 Okay, there you go. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.680 That's the two drivers, and again just something to play with. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.600 I mean, I love the added loft. If I'm not 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.640 driving a grade, I'll use it off the tee, even 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.920 on holes I typically go with the gamers. So yeah, 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.120 it's versatile and I love that. Cameron on X we. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.240 Call it ex or Twitter. Yeah, it X former do it. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.240 Cameron said, how does ping help people identify what swingweight 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.000 is best for them? 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.080 That's a great question. I mean it's very fun at 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.120 ping because all of our clubs have, you know, either 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.800 CTP weights or CG shifters. We do custom weighting, so 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.320 we have the ability that allows us to accommodate different 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.719 shafts and lengths, but it also helps us fit for 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.880 the right swingwaight. So a good general rule of thumb 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.040 is a heavier swingweight is going to for the right 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.960 handed golfer promote a more open face to path or 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.159 a little right bias right. So let's say in a driver, 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.640 you got the CG shifter that can move the left 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.200 right a lot like it will change it like ten yards. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.680 But if you go a couple swingweight points heavier, that 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:41.279 can bias your left right dispersion, say three or four 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.320 yards more to the right, or a good way to 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.520 think about is eliminate the left side a little bit, 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.440 so it's gonna change your face to path. You can 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.880 use to change that. Now you want to be a 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.840 little bit careful going too far. You don't want to 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.520 go like super light swingweight or super heavy because the 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.120 other impact it has it changes your face to path. Well, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.640 it also changes your low point consistency. So if you 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.400 get a little too light in the irons, it can 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.560 help you turn it over, but you might be a 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.440 little erratic in finding the ground. You might thin one, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.120 you might fat one, things of that nature. So there's 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.880 a little iterative process there. And say irons where your 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.720 your low point control is more important than a driver. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:25.120 A driver of optimizing the swing weight to produce a 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.760 very consistent low point, right, very consistent low point. And 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.440 then we can use that a little bit to eliminate 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.920 a pull or a fade and kind of dial that in. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.560 But swing weight should be used is a lever not 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.400 as big as say the lying goal or the CG shifter. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.680 It's important to keep that in mind, so you don't 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.440 want to use swing weight as the first thing to 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.159 go to to tweak your left right dispersion. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.560 Are you are you married to a swing weight? So 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.560 like if you're like, what are you do? You know 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:51.040 what you are? 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.800 Yeah, my irons are D three. I'm playing them a 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.520 little bit heavier now, partly because I want to eliminate 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.320 that left miss with some technique changes in my driver's 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.440 D six, which is also pretty So if you switched 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.320 irons or you transition to another set irons with that change, yes, okay, yeah, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.760 so it would Now if I go hit irons that 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.280 are D one or D two, now I will pull them, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.840 even with the same specs, same line goal, same shaft, 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.200 I'll pull them, and I'll be a little erratic in 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.600 my low point. Interesting, Yeah, so it won't find the 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.680 centerness of contact a little bit. But you know, I 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.040 think the big thing with swing weight is is don't 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.960 go too far, like a couple points here and there. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:30.400 It's not one of those things you want to go 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.960 erratically heavy or erratically light in some of that nature. Now, 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.600 the other way to use swing weight in a driver 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.120 is there's an optimal headweight, okay, and swing weight is 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.800 the you know, the swing weight is kind of the 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.880 proxy for that which maximizes distance for an individual golfer. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:47.880 So that's something else to play with. Some of our 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.480 fitters out there have these swingweight kits and they can 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.360 go play around with and try a driver at D 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.480 three and D five. Again, it's a lever to kind 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.720 of fine tune your left right, but be careful with 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.200 it with low point control on your irons. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.080 You know, I was thinking about the driver in terms 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.000 of this because you know, you and I talk a 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.640 lot about fitting and getting fit for the right club, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.680 and you think about loft being an option, you think 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.520 about shaft, you think about length in terms of the driver. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.280 I know you talk a lot about that in swing 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.880 weight as well as swingweight down the list in terms 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.440 of things people should be thinking about when they're trying 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:20.520 to tweak their gamer. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.840 Yeah, it is, it is. I think a good way is, like, 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.680 let's say somebody's between you put the CG shifter on 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.560 the driver in the draw and you're overdrawing it, or 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.120 you have that little miss to the left. You put 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.840 it back in the in the neutral and it's kind 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.800 of a little right bias. Well, what's your option? You 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.120 can play around with the sleeve to kind of dial 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.600 that in, Or you can play around with the swingweight 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.120 and just bias the swing weight a little bit and 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.760 it's totally fine. Let's say you get fit with a 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.920 driver our stocks D three and you're like, oh, I 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.480 just want to barely eliminate that left miss. Just order 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.480 the driver at D four. It's one of those things 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.880 you can just use to kind of hedge a miss tendency. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:55.439 Interesting. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.439 See, I mean there's just so many options, it's crazy. 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.600 Thomas said, can you go through the different settings on 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.760 the driver loft sleeve and their effects on ball flight? 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.000 So US amters can use that to our advantage. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.720 Oh I love that question. So yeah, trajectory tuning sleeve. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.960 We have eight positions the drivers out in the in 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.120 the stores, and in most settings they're going to come 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.200 in our default position, which has a dot to it. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.520 We call it the dot position. And then we have 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.560 a small minus in a big minus, and then or 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.040 a small minus in a big minus, a small plus 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.440 in a big plus. Those the small plus is going 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.120 to add one degree of loft. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.640 And by the way, just so people that are listening, 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.920 when you unscrew the driver and you take it off 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.880 it tells you this on the sleeve. Yes, so outside 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.160 of just the dots and the pluses the minuses, it'll 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.079 actually tell you once you take it off what it's 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:44.120 actually doing lostwise. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.400 Yes, and we did that on purpose, so you can see. Okay, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.760 this is how much the loft is changing. So we 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.400 have five marked positions. Then we actually have three. It's 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.760 kind of like going to in and out. You know 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.199 the secret menu get animal style pain. Yeah, you get 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.200 the secret menus. So we have three secret menu options 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.520 we'll talk about. But we have a a small minus 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.600 and a big minus, and that changed the loft by 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.000 one degree and one point five. Now this is important 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.880 because you can use loft to change your launch and spin. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.560 So if you go down, for every one degree you 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.520 change your driver loft, you will tweak your launch by 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.400 about zero point six degrees. Okay, so it's not one 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.440 to one, it's about six tenths and you change your 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.200 spin by about two hundred and fifty RPMs. So this 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.120 is a really good way. Let's say in the old days, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:27.800 before the sleeve, you'd either have to go from a 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.439 nine to ten point five, right, your optimal could be 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.839 right in between and you're stuck. Now it's a way 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.040 to get super dialed with your launch conditions to unlock distance. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.520 So or you can use the big plus and the 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.560 big minus position. Those change the the loft by plus 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.560 or minus one point five degrees. Now if you go 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.480 to the secret menu option shamee those. We have a 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:54.080 flat dot position and that changes the sleeve from the 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.320 more upright position and it goes we have a one 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.840 point five degrees of tilt, but you use flip at 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.600 all all the way around and you go three degrees flat. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.920 So we have a flat dot position. This is like 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.760 what I play my Thriver and I think we build 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.000 years also, and that'll make the That'll make the driver 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.560 three degrees flatter, which can slightly open the face. It 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.160 can change centeredness of contact for a player look a 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.600 little bit different if you're playing a longer length. This 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.760 is a great option. We've had some players do that 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.040 on tour. They're playing at forty six inch drivers go 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.360 in the flat dot position. So it's a great option 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.640 to kind of tune your centeredness of contact and tweak 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.920 your left right bias to go in those flatter positions. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.840 So we have a flat dot. Then we have a 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.839 secret menu, small minus, secret menu big minus, which are 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:42.480 one degree stronger and weaker, also about two and a half, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.720 about two degrees flatter. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.480 Is there like a chart online or anything people could 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.360 dive into that tell you all this stuff? 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:48.720 Yeah? 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.520 Absolutely. On our website you can see all the positions, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.959 and then our fitters out there in ping Co Pilot 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.199 we have all kinds of charts which show all the 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.200 different positions. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.160 Well, by the way, well, we'll tweet that out when 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:00.640 the episode comes out of well, so you have an 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.920 idea that all right, So we're moving from X to Instagram. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.160 Most comments on Instagram not worthy of putting on the podcast. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.520 These are the good ones that we pulled. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.360 By the way, this says approach to blended iron sets, 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.160 where to consider the transition point and how to mix 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.000 precision and distance models. So basically, when you're blending the 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.800 iron set, when do you go from blueprint beyond or 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.680 when do you kind of mix the blueprints? 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:26.480 Like how do you do that? 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.320 Yeah? I think a good way to think about our 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.920 iron models is you have they we have the models 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.440 that you the player bring the distance to the table. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.480 This is I two thirty blueprint s blueprint t right right, 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.320 And then we have some great, really cool tools to 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.920 be able to figure out where you blend those because 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:46.760 two thirty goes higher Blueprint T, Blueprint S goes kind 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.959 of medium height, Blueprint T goes a little bit lower. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.160 So we have some great tools in ping co Pilot 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.280 which can set, which can look at your land angle, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.720 and we have some really cool algorithms in there that 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.240 are kind of vetted by how our tour players lend 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.240 their sets. Okay, and it says, okay, let's look at 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.560 the land angle, and when the land angle starts to 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.960 get a little shallow for that player's clubhead speed, let's 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.720 bump them up with an iron model, you know, with 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.920 their If they're in Blueprint T, we'll go to blueprint S. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.880 If they're in blueprint S, we'll go to I two thirty. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.160 That's a great way to blend our precision irons. But 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.200 then we have distance irons, and a good one to 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.079 blend over there is like our I five thirty right, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.600 that's where the clubhead is built more like a metal wood. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.600 The face flex is more you're gonna get more ball speed, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.679 more distance out of it. I think a good way 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.520 is where you're iron your your gapping starts to bunch. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.920 And again we have some great predictive algorithms in Pink 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.360 Copilot which can help determine when where that happens exactly. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.679 But let's say you're a player. You you get your 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.800 set and you you start to hit your five iron 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.559 and your six iron or your four iron and your 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.319 five iron too close together from a carry distance standpoint, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.720 that's where it's time to start looking at a set 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.760 that infuses more distance, whether that's I five thirty G 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.079 four to thirty G seven thirty. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.520 Didn't saw hit the Goala not too long ago. He 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.839 had two three irons in the bag or two four 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.480 irons in the back right, But they were just different 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.720 sets absolutely, So they obviously fluid flew different they they 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.200 they had different trajectory stuff like that. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.280 Yeah, and I personally do that. I play an I 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.240 five thirty four iron that is stronger lofted. Obviously we 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.320 have a different loft configure. It's just built more like 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.440 a crossover with our with our two or two point 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.200 zero shaft in it, and I play it. Then I 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.400 play an Eye or a Blueprint S four iron. Okay, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.160 so I play two four irons, but my I five thirty. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.480 It's I mean, this may sound crazy. It's my two 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.960 fifty club. I fly at two foot okay, yeah, but 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.400 my my blueprint SS I fly to thirty two thirty 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:35.040 two at stock. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.000 How many players, I mean, I know you don't know 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.840 the exact number, but how many tour players now do 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.800 you feel like play blended iron sets? Do you think 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.160 it's sixty seventy percent? 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.040 Yeah, I think in our in our blueprints, I think 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.280 you know, Austin Ekro is a good example there, blueprint 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.640 T all the way down through the fore iron. They 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.720 switched to blueprint S three iron. So and then we 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.480 have other players that switch in the six seven iron. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.560 You know this. I played the blueprint, uh, and the 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.920 pitching wedge only I like that waller pitching wedge. I 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.000 like the turf interaction a little knifeier, right, And that's 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.200 where I like, Especially in Arizona, it's kind of firm 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.560 conditions in the springtime, so you can you have some players, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.600 I mean, I'm on one end, I split it barely, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.400 you know, one one club over there. Uh, And then 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:18.960 you have others that are splitting it like at the 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.120 three iron, and then some split at six and seven 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.640 so blueprint in I two thirty they we built those 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:25.400 two be blended. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.160 Yeah, I mean that's what I have. I have the 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.520 I two thirty four iron and then have blueprint ass 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:30.640 you know the rest of the way. So I mean 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.600 I'm I'm in that category for sure. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.360 Yeah. And we and we we can figure the lofts 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.080 so they're the same amongst all those sets. So you 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.200 get trajectory differences built based on the face structure design. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.200 And then our blueprint t's are also by standard, they're 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.560 a little bit shorter length, which is more PGA two 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.200 or average in terms of the lengths, and that gives 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:50.560 a little lower trajectory as well. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.160 So you've got two drivers, three sets of irons in 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.080 your bag, is that right? 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.000 Yes, three sets of ice. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.480 I mean like I would love, I would love to 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.520 talk to a random Paddy to get your bag at 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.720 a club and they're going four iron going on here. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.320 So I mean, just real quick, just to kind of 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.640 answer the question, you feel like the transition points are 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.080 either at the three and four or a lot of 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.600 the time around that six or seven iron. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.440 Yeah, uh yes, I mean, well it's it's highly varied. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.440 It's highly varied on the PGA tour between Blueprint S, 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:25.320 Blueprint T and and I two thirty. But I think 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.400 to answer the question that that came in is when 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.800 when when do you transition to a uh maybe from 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.440 a to a forgiveness set. And our forgiveness sets are 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.760 generally those that are also going to infuse more distance, 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.360 and it's going to be where you're you're you start 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.720 to eat that bunching, where you start to get that bunching, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.720 but you don't want to transition to a high lofted 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.960 fairy wood or hybrid. Again, I'm going to defer to 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.960 Pink co Pilot because we have this great tool called 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.600 the gapping app in there. Go ask your fitter to 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.720 put you on it, and that can help you decode 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.040