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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong

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Speaker 1: and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Eddy.

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Speaker 2: We didn't lose our country, our independence and freedom.

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Speaker 1: We have it. Now we speak in the capitol.

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Speaker 2: Russia is not winning. This is very important, and everybody's

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Speaker 2: asking how long we can hold the line.

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Speaker 1: And how long we can stay.

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Speaker 2: And how long can you.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not about it.

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Speaker 2: We wanted put In to stop this war yesterday. And

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Speaker 2: when we speak about how to stop him, first of

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Speaker 2: all to give Ukraine security guarantees.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the voice of President Zelensky of Ukraine's still alive

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Speaker 1: four years later. It was four years ago today the

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Speaker 1: war started, and there was a decent chance and a

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Speaker 1: fair belief that he would not live through the opening

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Speaker 1: couple of days. Since he decided to stay. He went

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Speaker 1: on to say this.

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Speaker 2: And really we each day we do all we can.

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Speaker 2: I speak with all the partners, I try to negotiate.

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Speaker 2: I'm asking different parts in different contents.

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Speaker 1: Helped me to stop Putting.

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Speaker 2: But if we will give him all he wants, we

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Speaker 2: will lose everything, our houses, our lives, our families ever since,

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Speaker 2: because all of us people will have to run away

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Speaker 2: from the country or be Russians.

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Speaker 1: So we've talked a lot about the war over the

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Speaker 1: last four years. Russia is currently losing thirty five thousand

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Speaker 1: men a month, which is just a stunning number historically

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Speaker 1: throughout the history of war. It's a stunning number.

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Speaker 3: And they've also gutted their economy and remade it as

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Speaker 3: an arms plant in a way that is I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about this. If I was part of the Voice

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Speaker 3: of America or the CIA or something, I would be

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Speaker 3: blanketing Russia and Russians with the message that Putin has

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Speaker 3: murdered the future because economically, how do you make the transition?

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Speaker 3: They're poisoned for foreign investment at this point. Putin is

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Speaker 3: I would say, betting everything on this war. But betting everything,

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Speaker 3: what what next? What happens after you win it?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the whole thing. It's just your birth rates

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Speaker 1: are tragically low too. It's a weird vanity thing where

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Speaker 1: it's important to him that Ukraine's part of Russia, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't do the Russian people any good to take

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Speaker 1: half of Ukraine. They're not going to get anything out

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Speaker 1: of it. No, it's really.

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Speaker 3: Setting fire to yourself to make a point or something,

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Speaker 3: or he's become a megalomaniac. It's it is a strange

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Speaker 3: chapter in world history and bloody obviously too well.

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Speaker 1: On the other end of the strange chapter is that

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Speaker 1: Europe allowed a psychopath with the biggest nuclear arsenal on

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Speaker 1: earth to invade a country and they're like, eh, sure,

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Speaker 1: hope the United States does something about this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what screeching about how important it is that the

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Speaker 3: United States do something about this?

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Speaker 1: Right? And then endlessen. This is one thing I just

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Speaker 1: do not understand Ian Bremmer, on who we have on

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Speaker 1: the show a lot the whole We've damaged relations with

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Speaker 1: Europe and our allies, and well they don't seem to

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Speaker 1: give a crap about their own damn backyard. I just

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Speaker 1: don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, Yeah, yeah, Bojo took it boot to the Europeans.

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Speaker 3: Boris Johnson wrote a great editorial saying, all this big talk,

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Speaker 3: what the hell are you doing? Well about some boots

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Speaker 3: on the ground, how about some long range missiles? Why

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Speaker 3: are you the only ones afraid of escalation? Poutin ought

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Speaker 3: to be afraid of escalation?

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Speaker 1: Well, in the end, let's talk about us not being

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Speaker 1: a reliable partner anymore, as opposed to who the reliable

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Speaker 1: French or the reliable Brits or the reliable Germans. Who

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Speaker 1: are the reliable partners out there that were I don't

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand why there's not more pressure on

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Speaker 1: Europe to do something AnyWho. The State of the Union

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Speaker 1: address is tonight. You know it'll be interesting, is if

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Speaker 1: Trump he brings up that war at all. It certainly

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Speaker 1: got mentioned quite a bit the first several State of

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Speaker 1: the Union addresses after the war started with Biden shouting

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Speaker 1: constantly We're with you to the end, while doing practically

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Speaker 1: nothing to help them anyway. State of the Union Address tonight,

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Speaker 1: it's it's I hate it. I think it's dumb. It out.

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Speaker 1: It outlived its usefulness a long long time ago. It's

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Speaker 1: just a political It's a pseudo event. Now it's created

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Speaker 1: for the media, and then the media reports on it

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Speaker 1: like it needs to happen, because then they have something

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Speaker 1: to talk about. That's what a pseudo event is, and

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Speaker 1: so both sides try to get their maximum out of it. Democrats,

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Speaker 1: for instance, are inviting accusers of Jeffrey Epstein. Several of

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Speaker 1: them will be in the crowd, A couple of names

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Speaker 1: that maybe you know if you follow in the store.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, they didn't care about Jeffrey Epstein till

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Speaker 3: it became a club to hit Trump with.

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Speaker 1: No the Jeffrey Epstein story has been around for a

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Speaker 1: long time. The files has been around for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have any of these people in the crowd

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Speaker 3: Close friend to New York Democrats in particular Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just ridiculous. Anyway, Several of the accusers of Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Epstein will be there to spotlight accountability in victor's victim's rights.

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Speaker 1: One of the things, though, is when the out of

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Speaker 1: power party brings their guests in, the president doesn't point

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Speaker 1: them out. The president has you know, it's the president's speech,

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Speaker 1: so he gets to bring his own guests and say,

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Speaker 1: standing right up, there is and I'll get to that

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Speaker 1: list in a second and really draw attention to it.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats have on their side though, that the mainstream

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Speaker 1: media will do it for you. And there you see

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Speaker 1: in the crowd victims of Jeffrey Epstein invited by the

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Speaker 1: Democrats to make the point that so they you know,

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Speaker 1: they got a mouthpiece the mainstream media. I do like

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Speaker 1: this one. Claire Lai, daughter of imprisoned Hong Kong publisher

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Lai, is going to be on the guest list.

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Speaker 1: He wrote an open letter to Eileen Goo by the way,

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Speaker 1: Oh really, I didn't hear about saying, hey, maybe you

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Speaker 1: could bring this up to your Chinese overlords. Got some

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Speaker 1: astronauts that are going to be there.

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Speaker 3: Eileen Goo by the way, the American who skis for

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Speaker 3: the Chinese, who, when asked about the enslavement and the

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Speaker 3: genocide of the Wigers, said that's not really my business.

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Speaker 1: Astronauts from NASA's upcoming lunar mission, which we're going to

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Speaker 1: fifty years, or fly around, go back to our moon,

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Speaker 1: our moon, reclaiming our moon. They're the guest of house

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Speaker 1: speaker Mike Johnson Sports figures. The US men's Olympic hockey

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Speaker 1: team will be there. Women's hockey team was invited, but

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Speaker 1: farmer that's going to be there. First, Lady is invited.

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Speaker 3: So here's well, even if they're not interesting, they're interesting

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Speaker 3: to me. It shows, you know, directionally or what gestures

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Speaker 1: The ones that Trump's invited, that's going to be get

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Speaker 1: a lot of attention. The parents of Sarah Bestrom, a

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Speaker 1: twenty year old National Guard soldier killed in DC by

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Speaker 1: an Afghan man led into the country during Biden's botch

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Speaker 1: to withdrawal from Afghanistan. Oh boy, so he's got that.

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Speaker 1: And then seven year old Ms Coleman, who was left

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Speaker 1: with life altering injuries after she was caught in a

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Speaker 1: multi car collision caused by an illegal immigrant here in California,

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Speaker 1: Gaven Newsom was governor and was behind the wheel of

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Speaker 1: a semi truck. Is Trump going to like, is that

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Speaker 1: just a guess that will be there? Or is Trump

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Speaker 1: going to point that out and like a really drive

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Speaker 1: home the point of the open borders. The second one,

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Speaker 1: the second one, Yeah, wow, Angel Moms, et cetera. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know he's going to be playing the greatest hits

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Speaker 1: for his own crowd. I just saw up there sixty

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Speaker 1: six percent of Republicans want him to talk primarily about

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Speaker 1: the economy. He's going to hit on how good the

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Speaker 1: though most people feel like it's not. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna do immigration because that, you know, what

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Speaker 1: got him elected, the economy and immigration. So he's gonna

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Speaker 1: hammer that over and over, and I'm sure he'll tout

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Speaker 1: the amazing numbers at the border. He did say yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a very long speech. What's very

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Speaker 1: long in Trump world because he's given some long speeches,

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Speaker 1: the Dell Stroll length.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Castro the Dictator famously with Jabberan for six hours

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Speaker 3: peeing quietly down your leg, thinking when's he stopping?

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Speaker 1: Why does Trump who understands entertainment, you know, he's got

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Speaker 1: such a sense of entertainment, But when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the speeches, he talks way past the point that people

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Speaker 1: want to hear anymore. Why do you think that is undisciplined,

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Speaker 1: self indulgent. That's the negative take on it. I was

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Speaker 1: at the UH convention. When he his nomination speech, and

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Speaker 3: I stood there for because I had to, I had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was insanely long. He lost everybody. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's going to be again tonight, probably, Yeah, with those

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Speaker 1: at what point in the speech you're going to do that, Senator, all.

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Speaker 1: Or was it last year that they brought the ping

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Speaker 1: pong paddles with some sort of verbiage on them that

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Speaker 3: Chat app and a crazy old man shouting at Cloud's

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Speaker 3: al Green shook his cane and got dragged out.

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Speaker 3: The odds would suggest, or the trend line suggests it's

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Speaker 1: It started with you lie when Barack was president dyeing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but nobody had ever yelled at the president while they

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Speaker 1: it started there and breaking down of norms or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and it's just kept going from there. Nancy tearing up

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Speaker 1: the speech behind Trump when it was over, oh boy,

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Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, Michael, I'm almost afraid to us suggest this.

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Speaker 4: But because of social media and TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the speaker nor right in front of him,

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Speaker 4: Do you think they'll do some sort of TikTok stunt,

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Speaker 3: So coming up, America's history is told through board games

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Speaker 3: until economist No, that's not terribly interesting. From the nineteen

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Speaker 3: hundreds through nineteen thirties, financial games gained favor. The game's finance,

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Speaker 3: inflation and others thrived during the Great Depression as a

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Speaker 3: fantasy of the American dream far out of reach for

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Speaker 3: most homes. Back to ms Maggie, she published Bargain Day

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Speaker 3: in nineteen thirty seven, a game in which players moved

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Speaker 3: through a store, making purchases by trying to save the

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Speaker 3: most The player of shops most thriftily wins.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I wish my wife would play this game. Hey,

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Speaker 1: maybe see if you can find an old copy of

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Speaker 1: my great nineteen sixties old man started joke there, Michael

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Speaker 1: Hey honey, here's an old timey game. Let's play it

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Speaker 1: all my fun. Wish my wife would play that game.

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Speaker 1: Tell the other women you can't tell them anything. Then

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Speaker 1: you got.

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Speaker 3: After World War two, Cold War anxiety gave birth to

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Speaker 3: strategy games like Risk.

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Speaker 1: You'd capture the territories across the world. It's stunning that

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Speaker 1: Monopoly ever caught on and became as why as popular

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Speaker 1: lack of alternatives. I mean, I'd never had the slightest

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Speaker 1: bit of enjoyment playing Monopoly, and never finished a game

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Speaker 1: once in my.

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Speaker 3: Life, but I've played it a lot of times. Other

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Speaker 3: than talking to the friends you're playing with. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: then the rivalry of it.

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Speaker 1: No, the game itself brought no joy.

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Speaker 3: Interestingly, Candyland, Yeah, perhaps the simplest game ever invented by

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Speaker 3: any human being, was designed in nineteen forty eight to

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Speaker 3: brighten the spirits of children in hospital wars.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I played a lot of candy Land. I

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Speaker 1: played candy Land in the hospital. Was it good? You know?

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Speaker 1: Frankly that was about up to my intellectual level.

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Speaker 3: Candy Land. I enjoyed playing that with the kids, very relaxing.

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Speaker 3: And then the act of playing games reinforced wholesome suburban

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Speaker 3: family values. Consider the nineteen sixty five game Mystery Date,

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Speaker 3: in which girls try to land a dreamy date and

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Speaker 3: avoid the sloppily dressed dud.

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Speaker 1: Oh you don't want to end up with the dud?

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Speaker 1: Right right? And let's see.

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Speaker 3: The game was developed by Marvin Glass and associates, the

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Speaker 3: Chicago toy design firm, whose other hits included Simon Rockham

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Speaker 3: Sockem Robots, which I wanted at age five more than

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Speaker 3: I wanted my next breath.

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Speaker 1: They also invented operation and mouse Trap Rockham Sockem Robots.

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Speaker 1: I knew people that had it, but I never owned it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the nineteen sixty six Twister became a

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Speaker 3: phenomenon and challenged sexual norms. Tell you what as a

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Speaker 3: teenager playing Twister with the other fellas and girls, Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: A great deal. You get somebody the opposite sex play

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Speaker 1: and there's a good change. Your groins are going to

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Speaker 1: end up against each other. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that was really delicate and artful. Well said, It's

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Speaker 3: like I'm working with Shakespeare. Holy crap, that I wish

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Speaker 3: we had a penalty box.

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Speaker 1: Is conduct two minutes, san help and I got to

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Speaker 1: put my left foot on a yellow dot. So how's

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Speaker 1: your father? Wow? Wow.

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Speaker 3: Today, even with the rise of video games, board games

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Speaker 3: in the US are more than holding their own thanks

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Speaker 3: to Kickstarter interestingly enough, the crowdfunding platform, lower cost of production,

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Speaker 3: and online communities. Players can enjoy hits like Settlers of Katan,

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Speaker 3: Wingspan Exploding Kittens, Ticket to Ride, which is a railroad

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Speaker 3: game interestingly and also some other different ones. My kids

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Speaker 3: in their generation are crazy into the game, the card games,

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Speaker 3: and the board games and the character playing games.

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Speaker 1: Board games are really all about the hanging around with

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Speaker 1: your friends or family. That's what is I mean. We

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Speaker 1: always do lots of UNO at our big cousin Christmas

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Speaker 1: family get together, and it's not about the freaking game obviously.

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Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, yeah, Well you hope to ruin humiliation,

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Speaker 3: suicide and puncture wounds or whatever else was on that list.

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Speaker 1: That one is pretty funny. Severe you lost an eye,

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Speaker 1: got to go back three spaces. I only had one

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Speaker 1: eye left. This as fun kids, but prior to you know,

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Speaker 1: pick the date, there literally was nothing else to do.

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Speaker 1: Cold winter night, it's dark. Now it's five o'clock. What

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Speaker 1: are you going to do? For the rest of the

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Speaker 1: evening with no radio, no TV, no maybe no.

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Speaker 3: Books, right right, play a little Landlord's game.

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Speaker 1: To warn your kids.

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Speaker 3: About the dangers of concentrated wealth. Have you learned your lesson?

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Speaker 1: Children? Now go to bed. That was fun. We'll finished

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Speaker 1: strong next time. I'm like you, I'm no better than you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a nine to sixty SAT guy. So we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about that for a couple of days and trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out like the debt to actually do any damage.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom sitting in front of a black audience with

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Speaker 1: a black interviewer and saying, Hey, I'm just like you.

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Speaker 1: I got a terrible grade on my SAT so I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm as dumb as black people? Is that

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Speaker 1: what the message was? And Joe was saying, now I'm

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Speaker 1: stretching it. Maybe. Cornell West I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: know who he is, but he has got a million

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Speaker 1: followers on Twitter. He's a big deal in democratic woke politics.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Rose used to have him on all the time.

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Speaker 1: Is like the voice of reason for Black America and

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. He's a Harvard PhD. He's one

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Speaker 1: of those people. Cornell West uh in an interview yesterday

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Speaker 1: said this, brother Newsom could have taken a humanist approach.

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Speaker 1: He could have said, I'm just like you. I was

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Speaker 1: born of a woman, all face, lost pain and death,

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Speaker 1: just like everyone else. But instead, when he thinks of

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Speaker 1: black people, he brings up low sat scores. That mindset

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Speaker 1: sits at the core of white supremacy, the belief that

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Speaker 1: black people are less beautiful, less mora l less intelligent.

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Speaker 1: Don't play with us like that. So at least for

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Speaker 1: one of your leaders of that sort of woke view

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Speaker 1: of the world, prominent black thinker, they took it the

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Speaker 1: way I said it, like, oh you have I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: there in front of a hem, just as dumb as

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Speaker 1: black people. Yeah. Yeah, What I was saying is I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's what he meant.

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Speaker 3: But this is a great sign, as I think I said,

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Speaker 3: of what happens when you get a guy who's been

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Speaker 3: on the actual field to play in an advertse he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the chops for an adversarial political run. He

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Speaker 3: says stuff as dumb as what he just said and

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Speaker 3: came off the way you and Cornell West said he

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Speaker 3: came off.

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Speaker 1: I agree, that's what it sounded like. I mean, like you,

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Speaker 1: me and Cornell West. That's a phrase I never thought

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Speaker 1: i'd be part of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what next Maka Brazinski seen on Jay Armstrong's arm.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was a heck of a thing to say.

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Speaker 1: I imagine he'd like to have it back, just slightly

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Speaker 1: differently worded. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then the absolutely priceless exchange with Dana Bash that

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Speaker 3: we played last hour, which I can't wait too.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to hear that again? Or do we

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Speaker 1: have time? Do we have time? Michael? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we have time? Do we how much time we got?

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Speaker 1: We gotta start right now. Final things for you tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and uh. Also, Stay of the Union is tonight, and

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Speaker 1: there's almost certainly going to be some high jinks along

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Speaker 1: with ninety minutes of I'm not going to listen to

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Speaker 1: it speech. Final thoughts, we thought strong Eddy, you'll get

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Speaker 1: I really like that. That's really good. Here's your host

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Speaker 1: for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 1: Final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up today.

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Speaker 1: There is Michael Angelo in the control room. Michael, what's

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Speaker 1: your final thought?

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Speaker 4: You know I've been thinking about it. Jack might be

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Speaker 3: Katie Green are esteemed to use? Woman as a final thought, Katie,

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Speaker 3: that board game segment reminded me of the meme the

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Speaker 3: only acceptable gateway for a game of Monopoly to an

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Speaker 1: Overturned and Monopoly money everywhere. I agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the dangers concentrated wealth right there.

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Speaker 1: That's Ryan Jack. A final thought for us. Thank you

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