Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome to
Speaker 2: another episode of Short and Sweet.
Speaker 1: We have another episode about parenting, just the trials and
Speaker 1: tri relations, the things that come with it and how
Speaker 1: it all shakes down.
Speaker 2: This all spurred a little bit because I sent a
Speaker 2: link to Jessica and I couldn't believe this. The US
Speaker 2: Surgeon General had issued an advisory on parents' mental health,
Speaker 2: and to sum it all up, this is what they said.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I took them as long.
Speaker 2: According to the advisory, at this forty eight percent of
Speaker 2: parents say most days their stress is completely overwhelming. Compared
Speaker 2: to twenty six of other adults without kids. Forty eight
Speaker 2: percent of parents say they're stressed most days is completely overwhelming.
Speaker 2: It's that to me, when I honestly read that, I
Speaker 2: thought that was horrifying.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, I think, yeah, because I think it's
Speaker 1: the overwhelming part. It's it's that being overwhelmed is not
Speaker 1: good for anybody. Right, you're under it. You don't have
Speaker 1: a chance to come a prairie. You're not You're you're
Speaker 1: completely submerged in whatever you know it is, and in
Speaker 1: this case, it's stress, and it's stress specifically about parenting.
Speaker 1: It's stress about your kids. Do you were your parents
Speaker 1: stressed when you were growing up? Do you remember that?
Speaker 3: So stressed? Extremely stressful.
Speaker 2: But one thing that they're talking about in this article
Speaker 2: is not only like financial difficulties. Those are conversations that
Speaker 2: I heard my parents having as I was growing up,
Speaker 2: But now there's also the social media issues with kids,
Speaker 2: which we've we've i mean, we've talked about this before,
Speaker 2: but that statistic just sounded insane. And what they're saying
Speaker 2: is is that parents tend to focus on their kids'
Speaker 2: health and well being. But there's also this sense of
Speaker 2: shame and guilt sometimes around being a struggling parent. So
Speaker 2: parents aren't typically talking about how much they're struggling, right.
Speaker 1: Because it's meant to look like it's a big deal.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it all.
Speaker 1: Well, because yeah, there's this like movie like quality to
Speaker 1: parenting things that happen on social media, and you're thinking like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, if someone's making, you know, a movie
Speaker 1: that's actually compelling about how to pack lunch, then I'm
Speaker 1: getting this wrong because I'm about to die. Well, I
Speaker 1: pack this second lunch, not packing any more lunches. I
Speaker 1: don't want to pack one more lunch. That's just that's
Speaker 1: an imagined conversation. That's not a conversation I've hashed with myself.
Speaker 2: It's really funny that we are having this conversation because
Speaker 2: this weekend there was a point where Hayden said something
Speaker 2: It bugged the crap out of me, and I was
Speaker 2: so lost in the moment. I had my instinct, my
Speaker 2: my own instinct on how I should deal with it right,
Speaker 2: but all it's crazy, And I actually talked about this
Speaker 2: in therapy. All of these voices in my head from
Speaker 2: all the social media doctors were like, you can't say that,
Speaker 2: that's projecting, or you can't say this because it's this,
Speaker 2: and you can't. So I think, what when I told
Speaker 2: Natt I was I said, I just need five minutes
Speaker 2: to like step away and gather my own thoughts. I
Speaker 2: think as parents now, what we get that was not
Speaker 2: happening before is so many cooks in the kitchen. Everyone
Speaker 2: has an opinion on how we should parent, and it's
Speaker 2: not just coming from like our parents anymore. It's coming
Speaker 2: from all the experts that you can find in two
Speaker 2: seconds on your phone. You're not even looking for advice,
Speaker 2: and suddenly you're scrolling and it's like, this is why
Speaker 2: you shouldn't feed them this or talk to them this way,
Speaker 2: or mention this thing. And so I'm to the point
Speaker 2: where I'm overly advised. Yeah that I'm that there are
Speaker 2: days where I lose my own instinct on what like
Speaker 2: we I do know how this is my kid. I
Speaker 2: do know in this moment what I should be saying
Speaker 2: and doing, But there's an over analyzing of our parenting
Speaker 2: now that was not happening.
Speaker 1: No, I agree, I agree, And there's you know, there's
Speaker 1: someone and and And it's funny because I actually, as
Speaker 1: someone who goes online and has benefited so greatly from
Speaker 1: some of the people you're talking about, I've learned so
Speaker 1: much from you know, a Berne Brown or a doctor
Speaker 1: Becky or and not necessarily maybe with my own instance
Speaker 1: or they haven't been describing exactly what's going on for me,
Speaker 1: but it's been them naming the challenge and then you know,
Speaker 1: a strategy or a way to think about it. And
Speaker 1: I felt so helped by that. At the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's another voice in your head, which sort of makes
Speaker 1: me think that whenever things get overwhelming, right, which is
Speaker 1: I think what we're talking about in that forty eight percent,
Speaker 1: that that forty eight percent feel that their stress is
Speaker 1: completely overwhelming. Whenever I feel overwhelmed. You hear me say
Speaker 1: this a lot. I love to hit the reset button,
Speaker 1: and or I do like to take that five minute
Speaker 1: time out, and or I do like to check in
Speaker 1: with myself and get real, real simple, where's it come from?
Speaker 1: That might tell me why I do it? And then
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do about it? And what's my
Speaker 1: next best step? And one of the things I saw
Speaker 1: this somewhere where someone said, you know, what's your best
Speaker 1: shot at being honest? Just telling the truth. Yea, So
Speaker 1: if in your moment as a parent, you're just telling
Speaker 1: the truth. I mean, I do think that kids can handle.
Speaker 1: They're so resilient, and you know, they're half you, and
Speaker 1: they're half you know your partner's genetics in a lot
Speaker 1: of cases, right, so they they will be compassionate towards
Speaker 1: your perspective and your opinion, and they will understand it
Speaker 1: on some level because they are partly you and I
Speaker 1: think that sometimes when I feel stressed and overwhelmed, I
Speaker 1: really too have to like go like, oka, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get really simple, and you know, one of my kids
Speaker 1: just said something super annoying and either I need that
Speaker 1: five minutes or in that moment I can say and
Speaker 1: I have that was really annoying, Like I felt, I
Speaker 1: experienced that is really annoying. Yeah, And I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: they're a little bit older in this case, but like
Speaker 1: they can say why or what do you mean or whatever?
Speaker 1: And I think that when I tell the truth, I'm
Speaker 1: always happier with the outcome.
Speaker 2: I do think that there's a little too much there's
Speaker 2: a little too much educating parents on social media on
Speaker 2: every element of parenting. I think we can find out.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like if you sleep train your kid,
Speaker 2: there's a reason why that's going to be traumatizing later on.
Speaker 2: Now you're feeling guilty about sleep training, right, And if
Speaker 2: you don't sleep training them and they're in your bed,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a reason that that's terrible, and now
Speaker 2: you're not helping them in this way, right. So I
Speaker 2: just feel like a lot of times as a parent
Speaker 2: will be we're being fed so much information, some of
Speaker 2: its contradictory, and you're and you're losing sight a little
Speaker 2: sometimes of being like, wait, this is my household, these
Speaker 2: are my kids. What do I feel like is best
Speaker 2: for my particular child? Because by the way, what's good
Speaker 2: for Hayden isn't good for Lucas. I'm going to communicate differently,
Speaker 2: and and I think that that's on top of financial
Speaker 2: stress and all the other things that are happening in
Speaker 2: the world right now. I mean I and I did
Speaker 2: live in a household that had, you know, financial stressful
Speaker 2: situations growing up, and the doors were open for those
Speaker 2: conversations and sometimes I wish they were closed, and it
Speaker 2: was overwhelming as a kid. But how I guess I
Speaker 2: guess my question for us and I don't know the
Speaker 2: answer to this, but how do how do we as
Speaker 2: parents feel less stressed? How can it be a smaller
Speaker 2: percentage of that or not feeling this every day? Is
Speaker 2: it having converse? I do think it really helps to
Speaker 2: have conversations with other parents and be really honest because
Speaker 2: when I'm like Hayden's do or Lucas is doing this,
Speaker 2: and I'm just I don't know how to handle or
Speaker 2: I'm feeling so stressed out in this moment, and then
Speaker 2: another parent says, oh my god, my kid's doing the
Speaker 2: same thing, or I've been through this too. It helps
Speaker 2: so much for sure.
Speaker 1: I Mean, the number one way to feel less stressed
Speaker 1: and understand your para sympathetic system and everything else is
Speaker 1: to not be alone. Like even just like saying this
Speaker 1: is by this was on an episode of Grades and
Speaker 1: not to me that when you're super stressed, to stimulate
Speaker 1: your parasympathetic nervous.
Speaker 3: System, Well, what is it? What do you do?
Speaker 1: You hug them? That having your whole body hugged creates
Speaker 1: a response within your parent sympathetic Okay, that calms you.
Speaker 1: And so just the fact that you're not alone changes
Speaker 1: your neurobiology.
Speaker 2: Are you saying hug If somebody hugs you, you hug them.
Speaker 2: Is it like a self like wrapping your arms around yourself?
Speaker 3: How did we do it on the show. I'm so
Speaker 3: interested when we talked about this.
Speaker 1: We had a character who came on the show and
Speaker 1: she was this is going back into the like, I
Speaker 1: think I was a guest star.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 1: I think she was on the spectrum and she was
Speaker 1: a doctor and she was having a flip out and
Speaker 1: they were like hugger and Sandra had to hugger and
Speaker 1: she was like, what are you talking about? Why am
Speaker 1: I hugging this doctor? She had to hugger in order
Speaker 1: to calm her system down. But to get to my
Speaker 1: point about this, I think that when we are feeling overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: it helps a lot to know that we're not alone.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's physically whether or not it's your partner
Speaker 1: or your friend, but truly like stimulating their nervous system,
Speaker 1: their parasympathetic responses by hugging them. And I think that
Speaker 1: when you're not in the same space as someone talking
Speaker 1: about it, I think that you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of understanding what your own particular brand of decompression or releases, right, Like,
Speaker 1: what is that? I mean? I don't know. It's sometimes
Speaker 1: I've heard people I don't meditate, but I know so
Speaker 1: many people who have whose lives have been changed by meditation,
Speaker 1: having moments of peace, going for a walk, having these,
Speaker 1: you know, open conversations with your partner. And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to hide it, not trying to act like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've got it all figured out, but saying I'm struggling
Speaker 1: and allowing yourself to get help.
Speaker 2: I think that piece is so important, Jess. I think
Speaker 2: that piece is so important being able to I don't
Speaker 2: think we need to be acting like we have.
Speaker 3: It all together, No at all.
Speaker 1: Those people are annoying by the way.
Speaker 3: Those people don't have it all together.
Speaker 1: Now, No, they don't. Nobody does. I mean some people
Speaker 1: have together better, I get. I mean, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: there's the spectrum of everything, but nobody has it completely together.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: All we do is watch TVs and film about how
Speaker 1: you think one thing, and that it's completely different, not
Speaker 1: the surface. No, here's the other thing that needs to happen.
Speaker 1: And it's not going to happen by us talking about it.
Speaker 1: But maybe it will end up happening because we talk
Speaker 1: about it here and then other people talk about it
Speaker 1: somewhere else, and then we start to actually demand that
Speaker 1: it happened. Is that in our country we do not
Speaker 1: demand or ask for extended family leave, paid family leave.
Speaker 1: We have a healthcare system that's really struggling and doesn't
Speaker 1: allow for all the things that might help parenting be
Speaker 1: a little bit less stressful. I mean, people are parents,
Speaker 1: you know, the parents are stressing. These forty eight percent
Speaker 1: are saying that they're overwhelmed because of the demands on
Speaker 1: their time, sometimes their children health, sometimes they're children's safety,
Speaker 1: they're feeling the parents are feeling alone and lonely because
Speaker 1: they don't have community because all they're doing is working
Speaker 1: and then going home to their kids. And then you
Speaker 1: added the piece where it's technology and social media, where
Speaker 1: it's like it used to be that you'd worry about
Speaker 1: leaving your kids at the playground because you know there
Speaker 1: might be a threat. They're a physical threat, but now
Speaker 1: the threat is everywhere because of technology. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's in this tiny little phone, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: the like the world, like it's Pandora's box. There's a
Speaker 1: million things that can hurt them, and you can't unring
Speaker 1: a bell. And once you see something, you've seen something,
Speaker 1: and so you're also really I think, I mean I
Speaker 1: am particularly, I definitely know that I have been stressed
Speaker 1: that there's something that I'm not gatekeeping, something that I'm
Speaker 1: not doing well, that that my kids have too much
Speaker 1: screen time, or they're going to have access or they're
Speaker 1: going to find something that's going to make them different.
Speaker 1: Because we've all heard the stories of the kids that
Speaker 1: are made different again. I mean, I'm amping myself up
Speaker 1: here right now.
Speaker 3: But it's the stress.
Speaker 1: It is it's the stress, it's the you know, once
Speaker 1: you get into the world of having teenagers, there's if
Speaker 1: you go looking for them, there's enough stories of just
Speaker 1: you know, kids that were just completely unwitting and online
Speaker 1: and thinking that they were you know, ordering some anti
Speaker 1: anxiety medication and the next thing you know, it's fentanyl. Right,
Speaker 1: And we're living in a really really scary time and
Speaker 1: I don't think it gets less scary. I think we
Speaker 1: get more able to deal with it. But right now
Speaker 1: we're having we're living in a moment of crisis, which
Speaker 1: is why I think that the you know, US Surgeon
Speaker 1: General has is speaking to this because we need help
Speaker 1: and we need to be talking about it, and we
Speaker 1: need to figure out how to help each other, and
Speaker 1: we need to figure out how to ask for help
Speaker 1: with it on the regulatory basis, with our government and
Speaker 1: our communities. I particularly again you can laugh at me
Speaker 1: and my you know, in the middle of the field
Speaker 1: with my horse, but actually, when you know, when we
Speaker 1: go to school, we have a pretty small community, and
Speaker 1: I'm really grateful for that. Like there's there's people around
Speaker 1: every corner. Like you know, if your kid, you know,
Speaker 1: went to a soccer game and acted like an asshole,
Speaker 1: or was you know, hanging out with the wrong situation,
Speaker 1: or you know doing something that was you know something.
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's community. It's community, community, community, So
Speaker 1: wherever that is. If you live in a big city
Speaker 1: and it's in your smaller community, or if it's in
Speaker 1: your small town, who knows.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because one of these statistics in here also
Speaker 2: says that three out of four parents are worried about
Speaker 2: their kid having anxiety depression and a lot of this
Speaker 2: comes from social media.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: There's this new sort of thing called pledge. Wait until
Speaker 2: eighth Wait until the eighth, Yeah, wait until the eighth.
Speaker 2: And it's basically a pledge that you can make as
Speaker 2: a parent, and you can send it to other parents,
Speaker 2: you can get a group together, and it's basically that
Speaker 2: your kid, you know, it can your kid can get
Speaker 2: a phone that can make calls and texts and stuff,
Speaker 2: but they don't have access to social media until they're
Speaker 2: in eighth grade.
Speaker 1: The aim is to let their neurobiology catch up a
Speaker 1: little bit more. Yes, like be able to understand not
Speaker 1: as much sort of like the immediate responses to the
Speaker 1: liking or the hitting that that dopamine hit that they
Speaker 1: get from, you know, having access to the entire world
Speaker 1: Wide Web, which again seems just absolutely preposterous, right, which
Speaker 1: I imagine would be if you weren't thinking that they
Speaker 1: had the world in their pocket, you might be a
Speaker 1: little bit less stressed, right, Yeah, I think that, And
Speaker 1: I think that that might be a way if people
Speaker 1: are listening and wondering, like God, the whole phone thing,
Speaker 1: and I have kids growing up, maybe there's a way
Speaker 1: to get other parents together to have this conversation. And
Speaker 1: so it's a whole You can look it up and
Speaker 1: you can pass it out to other parents, and you
Speaker 1: can sign it, or maybe you create something of your
Speaker 1: own that.
Speaker 2: Feels right for you in your community. But I think
Speaker 2: there's safety and numbers in this situation. And yet it
Speaker 2: actually did make me feel I signed it. Hayden's gonna have,
Speaker 2: you know, a landline until she's twenty five, But no,
Speaker 2: I think it's I think that those things all help
Speaker 2: each other. That you know, group of moms got together
Speaker 2: and discussed all that and sent it out, and I
Speaker 2: was totally on board.
Speaker 1: And that other thing that really helps in terms of
Speaker 1: like in terms of the stress is every if you
Speaker 1: do have a kid that has a smartphone, every smartphone
Speaker 1: has screen time limits and you can you can control
Speaker 1: you know when they can be on, when they can
Speaker 1: be off when.
Speaker 2: What does that mean though? What does that look like
Speaker 2: if you set a limit on a phone. I'm so
Speaker 2: curious right now does a phone shut off? Like they
Speaker 2: can't use the Internet after a certain amount of time? Ayeah?
Speaker 3: Interesting?
Speaker 1: In every smartphone there is a screen time limits part
Speaker 1: of it, and you can you can set time limits
Speaker 1: on every app that's on the phone. So if you
Speaker 1: if a kid has Pinterest or Snapchat, they can they
Speaker 1: can use their maybe they you can use their phone
Speaker 1: all day long, but they can only use Snapchat for
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and then it literally just shuts it off
Speaker 1: and the screen time limit has gone off. And they
Speaker 1: can ask you for more time, or they can ask
Speaker 1: the administrator the parent for more time, but it's done.
Speaker 1: It's closed off.
Speaker 3: Could they go into their own phone and change it
Speaker 3: or no? It's something that you Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I do find that it reduces stress in order
Speaker 1: to again, if we're going off of the fact that
Speaker 1: neither one of us, nor should anyone want to see
Speaker 1: forty eight percent of parents expressing feeling overwhelmed by stress.
Speaker 1: There are ways in which you can help yourself. Taking
Speaker 1: care of yourself is a very, very very key part
Speaker 1: of managing stress. Being in connection with other parents and
Speaker 1: other caregivers in your own family if they're helping you
Speaker 1: out with your family. Definitely making sure that you are
Speaker 1: supported by your insurance and that you have access to
Speaker 1: mental health care, and then understanding that you're not alone.
Speaker 1: That mental health challenges affect everyone. Some of them are
Speaker 1: more diagnosed, some of them are just feelings. None of
Speaker 1: them are any less valid. So if you are feeling
Speaker 1: like you need help, then please please ask for it.
Speaker 1: I actually feel like this is such a huge topic
Speaker 1: and it can be really overwhelming, and that can make
Speaker 1: me feel sad or depressed or even more worried or
Speaker 1: a little anxious. And so what I like to do
Speaker 1: when I'm feeling all those things is laugh. How about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Always, so I want to go to our friend Kelly.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's end on Kelly.
Speaker 1: Let's end on Kelly, because a little laugh at the
Speaker 1: end of all the things that can go wrong while
Speaker 1: parenting might be welcome. Kelly wrote in and said, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to say it. I hate PTA, I hate
Speaker 1: team moms, I hate parental get together I hate all
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: Now that I got that off my chest, how do
Speaker 3: I get over the guilt of this.
Speaker 2: I'm just not that type of parent. It gives me
Speaker 2: anxiety and stresses me out.
Speaker 1: I don't have time to be at all these places
Speaker 1: and pretend I enjoy the mom get togethers.
Speaker 2: I feel this pressure that I need to be infested
Speaker 2: in all aspects of being a parent together. Now, Hell,
Speaker 2: this is hard because I you know, I do have
Speaker 2: a group of moms I absolutely adore at my school,
Speaker 2: and they would make the PTA meetings really fun. But
Speaker 2: that's because they're my vibe and that I'm just lucky.
Speaker 2: I have also been in situations where I've been with
Speaker 2: moms that are not my vibe, and those things grind
Speaker 2: on me. And so I think it's okay. I think
Speaker 2: it's I don't think this isn't high school. You don't
Speaker 2: have to find a click. The clicks are annoying anyway.
Speaker 2: I think if you're not vibing with the moms, it's
Speaker 2: totally fine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Again, I'm a parent of four, so I'm at a
Speaker 1: lot of these things. A lot of the times I
Speaker 1: would rid yourself. Top note of that guilt. Do you
Speaker 1: not feel guilty about this? We already have enough on
Speaker 1: our plate. You don't need to add feeling guilty about
Speaker 1: any of this. If you enjoy it, great, if it's
Speaker 1: your jam, great If you don't, great, Like, it's all fine.
Speaker 1: Your children are all all gonna be who they are,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, I would say, like, if
Speaker 1: you really hate it, make yourself do something else right,
Speaker 1: like a drop off, identify one other person that looks
Speaker 1: like your jam, and be like, hey, you want to
Speaker 1: grab a drink, you want to grab a coffee, you
Speaker 1: want to do you want to have a plate? Eate,
Speaker 1: like something right? Like I wouldn't side stuff it all
Speaker 1: together because I think there's a lot of nourishment in that.
Speaker 1: But if you're not into the forced, forced fun, no
Speaker 1: can I say I I had. I don't think it
Speaker 1: affects your kid. I mean, maybe some people will disagree
Speaker 1: with me, but I grew up with a mom that
Speaker 1: was never at any PTA meeting. There was no she
Speaker 1: didn't have time. There was not time. She wasn't like
Speaker 1: making the cookies. She wasn't friends with the moms. I
Speaker 1: think she probably hated all the moms. She was not
Speaker 1: friends with anybody. She couldn't pick anyone out of a lineup.
Speaker 3: That was my mom.
Speaker 2: I had the best social life. It didn't affect me
Speaker 2: at all. I didn't care. It was totally fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when they're younger. It came only because
Speaker 1: it happened to me once where I just wasn't on
Speaker 1: top of it, and I think I had just another
Speaker 1: baby and another baby and another baby, and so I
Speaker 1: wasn't on I wasn't on my front foot about playdates,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Luke's best friend got a
Speaker 1: new best friend, and I was like, well, how did
Speaker 1: that happen? And it was evidently playdates scheduling place.
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe when they're when they're more little, but still,
Speaker 2: you know what, they have siblings.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure that your kiddos have siblings. Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, Josie.
Speaker 1: I gotta get her out of the house. She's much
Speaker 1: rather stay at home. Yeah, we're fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, long story short, I get it, and
Speaker 2: it doesn't it really doesn't matter, and don't feel guilty
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: No, And also, guess what, We're all in it. We're
Speaker 1: all in it. So phone a friend and let's let
Speaker 1: let's let's actually make a conscious choice to change this.
Speaker 1: Let's stop being so stressed.
Speaker 3: Let's just let that.
Speaker 1: Let's let that go, let that shit go. That's hard,
Speaker 1: I know, but you see how I'm trying to just
Speaker 1: turn that though.
Speaker 2: I yeah, no, but I think the intention is right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: life is hard to begin with, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we got to shake some of the shit off that
Speaker 2: we can. Yeah, anyway, this will, this will be a
Speaker 2: conversation that will never stop because we're always all in
Speaker 2: the thick of it.
Speaker 1: No, And you know what, I actually really do want
Speaker 1: to know. And I don't know if this will if
Speaker 1: this sounds interesting to anyone. I'm just floating it out there.
Speaker 1: I know we have a lot of listeners that are
Speaker 1: in their teenage years. I would love to hear from
Speaker 1: you about your parents and how your parents can better
Speaker 1: manage their stress or their worry. I hear a lot
Speaker 1: from teenagers like you're worried about things that are never
Speaker 1: going to happen. And I remember being a teenager and
Speaker 1: being like, that's never going to happen, and then it
Speaker 1: does and you're like, oh, I guess it could. But
Speaker 1: I would love to hear from you all, so please
Speaker 1: please teenagers way and on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would love to hear from anybody. You know,
Speaker 2: we didn't grow up with social media, we didn't have smartphones. Well,
Speaker 2: jess my in high school, right, so I want to know,
Speaker 2: you know, if you're in your twenties, even like looking back,
Speaker 2: or if you're a teen, what age do you think
Speaker 2: kids should have phones. I'm curious, would you go back
Speaker 2: in time and say, like, God, I wish I kind
Speaker 2: of had been made to wait until X age. I'm
Speaker 2: very curious about people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're out there giving their truth all right,
Speaker 1: a delight as always, even through the hard stuff.
Speaker 2: And we will call this the end of the episode.