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Speaker 1: Course last call as well. We'll do that and real quick,

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Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to Wes Whiteside,

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Speaker 1: who's in the studio with us. Who and you know

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Speaker 1: this Kelvin as you know me. I have long standing

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Speaker 1: relationships with people and friendships and all this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I've known West since he was in high school.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, West, were you sixteen? How were you

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Speaker 2: when we met? When you were you a sophomore? So

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Speaker 2: like sixteen years old?

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Speaker 1: And I've seen this guy grow and mature and he's married.

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Speaker 1: I was at his wedding and he's uh A recruited

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Speaker 1: for Syracuse University and all that. Very proud of him.

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Speaker 1: And he's in town here in LA doing some stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to give him a shout out

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Speaker 1: and all of his Syracuse people.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to West. Cool brother over here on my

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Speaker 4: left Avendale High right. Yeah, and he's another Michigan brother,

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Speaker 4: so he's cool with me. Side note, you my friend,

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Speaker 4: Rob gotta relax. Okay, Oh you about what? Then everywhere

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Speaker 4: I go, somehow somebody's connected to you. I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 4: what's up? What's up? Let me get to let me

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Speaker 4: get to number six, let me get to Yo. Man,

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Speaker 4: your voice kind of are you Devin watching? Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you must see what you watch Spectro News. But well no,

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Speaker 4: I listened to our couple. You know, Rob was my guy.

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Speaker 4: Used to be there. Hey, what's up. How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Check the hotel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know Rob reason

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Speaker 4: I'm working here. Because what it was was in eighty

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Speaker 4: then he said, you gotta relax, bro bum Kevin Bacon

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Speaker 4: his six degrees of Rod Parker, you take it easy.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 4: I thought, you know, I know a lot of it.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was connected, knew everybody. My god, Well,

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Speaker 1: Believe it when you when you talk about that and

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Speaker 2: I got one other Grant Henderson, you know, Grant Henderson

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Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is he interned as well, like

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Speaker 1: number three and Calvin, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Let's go here. Where we're going is SNFL.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomess the new haircut.

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes doing a media tour. Ye couple new hair

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Speaker 2: All we gotta do is say that Nick Wrong is

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Speaker 4: He'll come on.

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Speaker 5: I mean Nick Right, he might, but yes, he's been

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Speaker 5: One of the things that came up was the idea

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Speaker 4: eighteen games. And if you get to eighteen games, Robs,

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Speaker 4: both of you, Rob Park and Rob g well you

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Speaker 4: know what eighteen turns into twenty. And here's my thought

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Speaker 4: you're locked in. I only get these X amount of games.

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Speaker 4: From a player standpoint, every game matters, I'm locked in.

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Speaker 4: So now I gotta start to consider, Man, we are

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Speaker 4: the NFL. I know all money is good money and

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Speaker 4: great is we don't get to see you all the

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Speaker 4: time and don't come to me players or league. If

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Speaker 4: because adding all these games only makes it long and elongate.

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Speaker 4: It's the season and more opportunities for a guy gets

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Speaker 4: you might have to start considering will NFL players start

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Speaker 4: to load and load management. I'm not talking about last

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Speaker 4: game of the season. I sit down, we already got

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Speaker 4: the division sewed up. I'm talking about week eight, week twelve,

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Speaker 4: because I'm starting to think long term. I gotta think

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Speaker 4: for eighteen games, r twenty games, and I think that

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Speaker 4: to consider because clearly not thinking about players safety, that

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Speaker 2: Here's my issue is that players, especially Patrick Mahome, shouldn't

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Speaker 2: the Players Association, one voice, one voice, not putting this

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Speaker 2: let me tell you how it'll work. Let me, you

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Speaker 2: gotta have this, you gotta do this.

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Speaker 4: That gives a creeding You can't tell me that owners

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Speaker 4: and people going like, did you hear Patrick? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So he's not gonna come out of if you

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Speaker 1: have the best of the best coming out against it,

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Speaker 1: saying no, but a.

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Speaker 4: Singular voice the union and we've talked about this. You

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Speaker 4: beat me where I was about to bring up again, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's very simple.

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Speaker 1: No, like one voice from the union and and the

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Speaker 1: way that they change all of this and stop. I

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Speaker 1: do not understand. I wish I would have two minutes

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Speaker 1: the Players Association. I would say, you guys want to

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Speaker 1: do right by the players. Forget about that stupid deal

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Speaker 1: you guys signed so you could smoke weed and practice less.

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Speaker 1: That's what they' that's what they hang out right, smoke

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Speaker 2: I said. I would go into the owners.

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Speaker 1: Here's the CBA, the Major League Baseball players have with

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Speaker 1: the baseball owners. We want exactly what they have, exactly

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Speaker 1: what they have here it is. And if you don't

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Speaker 1: Or you do it before the super Bowl when everything's

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Speaker 1: or situation set up, we will not play the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: How did the baseball players get leverage? They stop the world, Citty,

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Speaker 4: they stop the world. But Rob, you and I have

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Speaker 4: talked about this. Everything you said makes sense. You and

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Speaker 4: I both agree. We say this at least once every

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Speaker 4: month because something comes up where we have to have

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Speaker 4: this conversation. The issue is that sounds good, but that

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Speaker 4: four string defensive back who's only making it.

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Speaker 1: It can't be about it can't be about him. It's

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Speaker 1: gotta be singular about everybody. And this is what you

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Speaker 1: got to.

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Speaker 4: Do. That is what I'm saying. We have to vote.

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Speaker 4: And when we all start to vote, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: you're check hitting different No, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: But here here's but here's the difference. I hear you.

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Speaker 1: The reason the players have solidarity in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: is because the young player you're talking about, you're not

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Speaker 1: worried about paying your bills. The union has a Ward chess, Calvin,

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Speaker 1: how much money do you need for your bills?

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Speaker 2: Hold on? How much do you need?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 1: It is when you get when we finished with this lockout, strike, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and they give us our money back, you take that money,

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Speaker 1: you put it back in the war chest. The reason

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Speaker 1: that the players union gets beat like a drama. Then

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Speaker 1: they know that they don't have a war chest. They

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Speaker 1: know that people can't miss two paychecks or one paycheck.

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Speaker 1: You have no leverage. But you have no leverage if

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Speaker 1: you have no war chess.

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Speaker 4: Your honor. I object. Here's why it sounds. First of all,

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Speaker 4: again I agree, but here's the thing. A. I have

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Speaker 4: way more players in MLB, way more. No, No, it's not

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Speaker 4: do so. So. Patrick Mahomes, one of the voices of

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Speaker 8: Yeah, But hey, guys, I think one of the huge

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Speaker 2: Three home we has three home runs.

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Speaker 4: And I'm saying he tell many people who everybody ain't

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Speaker 5: we got him.

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Speaker 4: We got him this time. We got him?

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Speaker 2: What did I say?

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Speaker 4: The best part is, Rogie, There's been about three times

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Speaker 4: he said this, but Rob said this, Now that that

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Speaker 2: Kelvin Washington sat there and let it happen.

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Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. He didn't push back. I didn't push back.

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Speaker 1: That's surprised that Spectrum hadn't said you sure you want

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, thank god, they love me. They love some

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Speaker 4: double dangle, they though for sure. All right, we got

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Shapp on the other side. That'll be really cool.

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Speaker 4: Get to talk to him right now.

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Speaker 4: The Covil Robin Kelvin On a Fucky Flashback Friday, we

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Speaker 4: have the privilege talk to Jeremy Shapp right now, host

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Speaker 4: of V sixty and the sports reporters on ESPN. Jeremy,

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Speaker 4: how you doing, man, Jeremy.

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Speaker 7: I'm good. How's it going, guys?

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Speaker 4: Going well?

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Speaker 2: Doing great? Doing great? Great to have you on.

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Speaker 4: No, not appreciate, not a problem, looking forward to having

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Speaker 4: this conversation. Uh So, Yeah, just tell us a little

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Speaker 4: bit more about this project. You have South Paul the

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Speaker 4: life and legacy of Jim Abbott. We want to hear

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Speaker 4: a little bit more about that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, very excited.

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Speaker 7: So, you know, we've been working on this for a

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Speaker 7: long time. It's it's the Jim Abbit story. It uses

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Speaker 7: the no hitter that he pitched on September fourth, nineteen

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Speaker 7: ninety three, when he was the Yankees against Cleveland has

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Speaker 7: really kind of the spine of the story, and you know,

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Speaker 7: cuts flashes back and forth from the game to his

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Speaker 7: life story. But it's about more than his life story.

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Speaker 7: It's about more than his rise to prominence, and it's

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Speaker 7: about more than the no hitter. It is largely as

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Speaker 7: well about his impact, markable influence on the world and

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Speaker 7: especially on people who had situations like his.

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Speaker 4: You know, we call it.

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Speaker 7: The limb different community. Now, that wasn't a term that

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Speaker 7: we used when Jim Habbott was playing in the nineteen

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Speaker 7: age in the nineteen nineties, But a lot of the

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Speaker 7: story is about the kids who had situations like his

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Speaker 7: that he inspired, the way he helped their parents, their grandparents,

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Speaker 7: people who needed hope, who needed inspiration, and the remark

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Speaker 7: impact he's had in the world because it's his willingness

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Speaker 7: to make contact, reach out to and serve as a

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Speaker 7: role mod.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you brought that up real quick because

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Speaker 4: you may not know this. I'm a morning news anchor

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Speaker 4: here in la with Spectrum, who's one and one of

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Speaker 4: our reporters. Nicky k did a story on Justin McFadden

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Speaker 4: of is what University of Laverne, and he also has

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Speaker 4: the same challenge as that Jim did, and Jim has

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Speaker 4: been a mentor to him straighter. She just did this

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Speaker 4: story two weeks ago and then not Wow, Robbgi told us,

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Speaker 4: we're going to talk to you. I said, I have

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Speaker 4: to bring this up, and that was part of it.

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Speaker 4: She brought up how Jim Abbott has been a resource

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Speaker 4: for him, a friend for him, a role model for him,

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Speaker 4: and he just goes to your point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's so many stories like that, and we speak

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Speaker 7: to so many. Speak to several professional athletes as well

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Speaker 7: who have limbed differences. Tim Griffin, who is the first

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Speaker 7: NFL player with one hand in Carson, tickets to the

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Speaker 7: US women's national team, Nick Nole, the mixed martial artists,

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Speaker 7: and everybody talks about how Jim played such an important

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Speaker 7: part in their lives, giving them hope, giving them inspiration,

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Speaker 7: and basically through his example tell you know, proving to

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Speaker 7: them that curdles challenges that even you know might seem

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Speaker 7: insurmountable can be overcome.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy, I always think like.

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Speaker 1: People aren't born and their adults right away, you know,

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Speaker 1: growing up as a kid and going to the ballpark

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Speaker 1: or wanting to play, and kids can be very cool.

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Speaker 1: You know, they see stuff and they're just going to

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Speaker 1: say whatever they see and they don't have a filter.

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Speaker 1: And I think did Jim talk about that, like how

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Speaker 1: rough it was like just growing up and feeling like

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Speaker 1: trying to get to the ballpark and trying to have

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Speaker 1: fun with the other kids, and kids maybe shunning him

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Speaker 1: or not wanting him to play.

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Speaker 7: He did, you know, we talked about that a lot,

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Speaker 7: and we talked about his experiences when he was very

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Speaker 7: young and initially, well not initially, but at a certain

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Speaker 7: age he got a prosthetic arm, and you know, we

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Speaker 7: talked about how, you know, kids could be cruel and

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Speaker 7: would call him Captain hooked things like that, and and

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Speaker 7: there were fights and there were insults, and there was

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Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. And for Jim growing up

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Speaker 7: in Flint, Michigan, you know, sports were everything, and sports

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Speaker 7: was his ticket to accept it, to fitting in. And

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Speaker 7: you guys know, Jim Abbott incredible athlete, you know, not

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Speaker 7: just a baseball player, but a great hitter, high school quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Basketball was I think his first love athletically. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, a guy who could do anything athletically. And

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Speaker 7: because he was said jet standing athlete, that made it

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Speaker 7: easier for him to fit in. But there was still

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Speaker 7: the awkwardness. There was still you know, he talked about,

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Speaker 7: you know, hiding, hiding his his right arm in pictures.

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Speaker 7: You know, there are a lot of pictures of him

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Speaker 7: there with his right arm in a pocket, in one

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Speaker 7: of his pockets, and I think, you know, there was

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Speaker 7: a lot of trauma there, and he understands, you know,

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Speaker 7: how are the kids in that situation, whether it's a

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Speaker 7: limb difference or something else. You know, what it's like

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Speaker 7: to be bullied, what it's like to be different, and

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Speaker 7: how much you know you might want to just fit

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Speaker 7: in and just you know, not draw attention from everybody else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely can understand that. Jeremy Shapp, hosts of E

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Speaker 4: sixty and the sports reporters on ESPN. Of course, Jeremy

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Speaker 4: shop if you want to follow him, and it's called

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Speaker 4: South Paul. It's going to be a sixty special there

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Speaker 4: the life and legacy of Jim Abbott. We're talking about

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Speaker 4: there just switching gears lip staying in baseball, but switching

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Speaker 4: Garrison a little bit and going from pitching staying in

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Speaker 4: the pitching realm Robin I Hud debates about just what

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Speaker 4: we're seeing right now. There's a couple of young great

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Speaker 4: pitchers in this league, Schoogle being one of them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You ever think we'll see what Clinton kershawl was able

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Speaker 4: to do? Three thousand strikeout club ever again you think

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Speaker 4: that's just those days are far removed or hey, you

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Speaker 4: never know.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy, I'm saying yes. I mean everybody says no, but

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 7: You're saying, yes, Rob, that it will happen again.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it will.

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Speaker 7: Well, everything happens again, right, I mean, look at baseball history.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I'm a guy who loves baseball history.

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Speaker 7: I'm speaked at it. I grew up with it. So

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Speaker 7: think about that's what people were saying in the eighties,

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Speaker 7: right when you had the generation of the great starting

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Speaker 7: pitchers like Jack Morris. Yep, And there was no one

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Speaker 7: from Jack Morris's generation who won three hundred gates. Not

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Speaker 7: a single picture born in the decades. The nineteen sixties

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Speaker 7: won three hundred games. But then you get to the sixties,

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Speaker 7: it's the whole different story again. You got Randy Johnson,

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Speaker 7: and you've got Roger Clemens, you got Tom you've got

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Speaker 7: Greg Maddox. To who am I forgetting there's one more,

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Speaker 7: it'll come to me. But you know, in the forties

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Speaker 7: and thirties you had Sutton and Seaver and Ryan and Carlton,

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Speaker 7: Uh and Perry and Micro. You had all those guys,

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Speaker 7: you know, so these things going ways. You had all

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Speaker 7: the great pictures of the hope. I'm not speaking out

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Speaker 7: too much, no, no, no, in nineteenth century and it's

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Speaker 7: the same thing with strikedowns because it's all about opportunity.

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Speaker 7: And look, things change, the game has changed. We all

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Speaker 7: know that there's some things that will never come back.

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Speaker 7: You know. We thought there'd never be three hundred game winners,

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Speaker 7: you know, but there were.

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Speaker 3: But there will never be a five hundred.

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Speaker 7: Game winner again like Cy Young or one hundred game

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Speaker 7: winner again. Like Walter Johnson. Things change. You know, It's interesting.

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Speaker 7: You know, you had a whole period in baseball after

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Speaker 7: the turn of the twentieth century, right, and you had

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Speaker 7: a few guys who won three hundred were like Walter

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Speaker 7: Johnson and let the Grove won exactly three hundred. But

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Speaker 7: between you know, Letty Grove and the era we're talking

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Speaker 7: about of the Perrys and the Negroes and Receivers and

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Speaker 7: the Carltons, you just had an early win and Warren

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Speaker 7: spond for like forty years, right, So things change. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: what we've seen this fundamental change in the role of

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Speaker 7: the starting pitcher, the amount of you know, if you

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Speaker 7: told me when I was a kid that one of

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Speaker 7: the greatest pictures in baseball when I was in my

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Speaker 7: fifties would be a guy like Jacob de Gram winning

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Speaker 7: multiple Cy Young Awards, But I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 7: He might got to get to one hundred career wins,

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Speaker 7: right right, right, you know, I mean, nobody can question

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Speaker 7: the greatness of Jacob de Gram, but you know, and

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Speaker 7: he's an extreme example, right because of all the injuries

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Speaker 7: he's had and stuff like that. But it's just totally different.

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Speaker 1: One last thing, at least from me. I know it's

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Speaker 1: show Hay in the National League and Judge in the

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Speaker 1: American League. No, I'm just but but I no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying when when I when I look, because

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Speaker 1: to me, show Hay is not the best pitcher and

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Speaker 1: not the best hitter. But when you put it together,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt he's the best baseball player because.

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Speaker 3: He can do bothable.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but but what I'm talking about when I look

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Speaker 1: at Aaron Judge as far as power average, you know, Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: you know baseball, the bat the average batting average is

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Speaker 1: two forty two with no power.

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Speaker 2: He said three sixty in July with power.

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Speaker 4: You did.

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Speaker 2: He's he's unique.

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Speaker 4: He you know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, what he's doing is just of course, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: I mean, there are there are million words we can use.

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Speaker 7: It's ridiculous, right, I mean, the only thing in my lifetime.

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Speaker 7: And I don't watch the game. I still watch the game,

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Speaker 7: but I don't watch it follow as closely as when

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Speaker 7: I was covering it, you know, on a day to

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Speaker 7: day basis and all that kind of stuff. But it's

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Speaker 7: like what Barry Bonds was doing right twenty years ago,

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Speaker 7: when it was a home run or a walk, right,

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Speaker 7: and the guy was getting on base fifty six percent

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Speaker 7: of the time and hitting seventy home runs and doing

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Speaker 7: all of that. And of course it's different because you know,

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Speaker 7: we're talking about a different age and the age of

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Speaker 7: chemical enhancement twenty twenty five years ago in baseball. What

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Speaker 7: Judge is doing in this different era, it's just amazing.

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Speaker 4: Without a doubt. Jeremy, thank you so much. Looking forward

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Speaker 4: to seeing this.

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Speaker 2: We just saw the a little bit of the trailer, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to this.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: You do great work as all, Jeremy. So Jeremy, and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna let you go because I got to finish

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Speaker 4: talking a lot more about Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 7: It's a pleasure, guys anytime. Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: You know they don't dunc in the WNBA, but you

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Speaker 4: know who could Duncan w and Aaron Judge, you know,

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Speaker 4: Browny and Cooper Flagg last night, But you know who

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Speaker 4: would have played better? Aaron Judge. You know, he's like

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Speaker 4: six or eight. He could have been a power for it.

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Speaker 4: Look at you, I can't stand you