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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is the local Tity Dealers KSR postgame show.

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Speaker 1: The Cats take a loss in Georgia thirty five fourteen

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Speaker 1: in a game that in some ways at times felt

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Speaker 1: competitive and then at times did not, but never felt

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Speaker 1: like a shot that Kentucky could actually win. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: here's here's what we're gonna do A five nine two

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Speaker 1: eighth twenty two eighty seven. I genuinely I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of time next week. It's a

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Speaker 1: bye week, uh for Saturday, Big Blue Madness is Saturday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a whole lot of time next week

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Speaker 1: to kind of talk about all the various incarnations of

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Speaker 1: UK football and and and where it goes. I want it.

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Speaker 1: This is the best chance to hear from fans. So

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Speaker 1: I do want to open up the phones and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let you guys kind of say your thoughts. I

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Speaker 1: think it would be interesting to sort of get I

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Speaker 1: wasn't here last week, so to get hit a sense

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Speaker 1: of the pulse of the fan base right now going

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Speaker 1: in it's really halfway through this season. So eight five

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Speaker 1: nine two eight twenty two eighty seven. I'm genuinely curious

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Speaker 1: as to what everybody thinks. Let me, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: two parts. First the game and then bear picture game.

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Speaker 1: Kind of what I thought, which was Kentucky would not

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Speaker 1: embarrass itself, although it looked early like they might, but

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Speaker 1: that they never really would have a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Do some good things, but really not I mean, be competitive,

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Speaker 1: but not really competitive. And that's kind of what happened.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cutter Bowie I thought looked pretty good, actually

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Speaker 1: probably his best performance as a cat. They threw two

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes. But here's part of the problem. They threw

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Speaker 1: two touchdown passes and it's the first time in the

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Speaker 1: bush Hamden era that that's happened. I want you to

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Speaker 1: think about that stat for a second. In eleven SEC

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Speaker 1: games in the bush Hamden air, this is the first

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Speaker 1: time we thrown two touchdown passes. Well, I mean, there

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Speaker 1: you go. You're not gonna win. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: the end of the second quarter before we threw a

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Speaker 1: pass to the wide receiver that went beyond the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage that was complete. You're just not gonna win

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Speaker 1: like that. And that's the way it goes. This team

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Speaker 1: has no receivers that can get open, and they just

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Speaker 1: can't throw. And then when you play a defense George

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Speaker 1: is not the defense they usually are. But still, you

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Speaker 1: play anybody good, you're gonna struggle. A terrible end of

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Speaker 1: first half. Again, to whatever extent, Kentucky had a chance

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Speaker 1: to be competitive in this game. You essentially have to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of any break you get. And because they

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Speaker 1: had a chance to end the first half with the

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Speaker 1: in the second half, you had a chance to double up,

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Speaker 1: which is exactly why you defire at kickoff. You have

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Speaker 1: a chance to double up, and Kentucky ends up with

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Speaker 1: zero points. They drove it down, wasted time. Jesse Palmer

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Speaker 1: correctly called him out for it, said, this is terrible

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Speaker 1: clock management. It was. They executed a few plays that

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Speaker 1: made it look like that wouldn't matter, but then in

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Speaker 1: executed the clock management, well they could have taken another

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Speaker 1: shot at the end zone. But because they wasted time,

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Speaker 1: as Jesse Palmer called it out, then there was no

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Speaker 1: then we miss it. Just a disaster the end of

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Speaker 1: the first halves. There are probably fifteen games in the

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Speaker 1: Stoops era where the end of the first halves have

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Speaker 1: cost us major literally probably fifteen games. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: honestly only a little over one game a year. So

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Speaker 1: at the end of the first half, there's just a disaster,

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Speaker 1: and they've been a disaster even in Stoop's best years,

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Speaker 1: We've always been bad at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 1: And then in the second half you go for a

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Speaker 1: what do you say. I mean, that's that's poor performance

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Speaker 1: and you end up losing the game. So it's about

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Speaker 1: what I expected. I think I picked thirty to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: It was thirty five fourteen, But that's it's almost exactly

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Speaker 1: what I thought we were gonna get today. Now, bigger picture,

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Speaker 1: as they've been on Stoops, I expect the athletic. We'll

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Speaker 1: guess people would say, well, I guess he earned another year,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if anybody would be excited. I'm

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Speaker 1: really not sure there's anything that can be done to

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Speaker 1: and we're not good, and so why do you want

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Speaker 1: to do it? And then on the other side, you

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I am very disappointed. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that I think Mark Stoops did

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Speaker 1: Forget about on the field. Off the field, we've talked

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Speaker 1: understanding that we don't know this team. We don't know

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Speaker 1: these players. I mean the receiver that came in the

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Speaker 1: played pretty well in the Miller Never heard of that

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Speaker 1: so it's it's real easy not to care about people

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Speaker 1: base is. So what do you do next? Well, Mark

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Speaker 1: Stoops was very adamant after the game that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: Stoops had approached Mitch Barnhardt and asked to be bought out.

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Speaker 1: Last year. Stoops was asked about it, he said it

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Speaker 1: is zero chance I'm walking away, you know what I mean? Zero. So,

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Speaker 1: put aside whether Allan was right or not, I tend

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Speaker 1: I do not think Mark was like, I want to leave.

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Speaker 1: But even if he had been this statement right here,

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Speaker 1: I mean zero? That is not a statement with wiggle room.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of drawing a line in the sand with that,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Now. Could that change in seven weeks?

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Speaker 1: Of course it could. But the way I read that is,

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Speaker 1: don't expect him to do anyone a favor and say, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's best for all of us if we part,

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. What's gonna happen is either we'll

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Speaker 1: the question will just be at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: I'm of the belief that as long as things are

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Speaker 1: bring him back. You cannot come back next year, and

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Speaker 1: But you can't bring this back. Fans are out, they're out,

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Speaker 1: and so you can't do that again like that. We

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Speaker 1: So my hope is that things get better and that

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Speaker 1: So you can't sit around and like do what he

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Speaker 1: I'm a Mitch Barnhardt fan. He and I are completely

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Speaker 1: different people, and besides sharing like a Christian faith, have

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Speaker 1: almost nothing in common. But I think he's done a

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Speaker 1: cal Perry's contract and Stoop's contract. He created two contracts,

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Speaker 1: which I understand why he did in the moment, but

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Speaker 1: what they ended up with were two contracts where we

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we're basically at the mercy of coaches.

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Speaker 1: We were at the mercy of John cal Perry. He

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Speaker 1: Thank you Tyson's Chicken. But now here's another one. And

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Speaker 1: we're just reliving that situation again. Now nobody's gonna come

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Speaker 1: and save this one. Like this one, we are going

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Speaker 1: to reap what we sew. And I think it's important

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Speaker 1: to think about with Stoops's contract, everybody knows the thirty

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars and it's due within two weeks. All that,

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Speaker 1: what four or five years left on his deal something

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Speaker 1: But you know what that means, Billy, we essentially create

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Speaker 1: Mitch Barnhardt paid a coach like top ten money and

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Speaker 1: That's a completely unfair assessment of the Stoops contract. He

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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying like it was malpractice for Hint

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Speaker 1: Let's go to you. Eight five, nine two eight oh

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Speaker 4: I'm at I'm I'm twenty years old.

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Speaker 5: Mark Stoups has been.

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Speaker 4: The head football coach here since I've been able to

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Speaker 4: I sat in my car last week at halftime and cried,

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Speaker 1: What's your conclusion. Are you saying, like you think what

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Speaker 6: You can't bring this back.

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Speaker 7: coaching execution. There's no reason that a team that's this

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Speaker 1: Besides, I think I appreciate the call to go to

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, Hey, what's going on, Matt?

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Speaker 9: I'll tell you what. Let's just get down to the

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Speaker 9: Like he's got us locked up. But the gap coverage

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Speaker 9: see that there's another option. But we're stuck, Matt, We're stuck.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he's got his handcuffed. And when you can't

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Speaker 9: You said it right, like, why would he give up

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Speaker 11: Hey, I'm in the same boat. Kind of that, the

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Speaker 1: We came back, We came back time. Yeah, Jordan Jones spit.

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Speaker 11: The thing that made me fall in love with that

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Speaker 1: I think you, I think that is exactly one correct.

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Speaker 1: The thing that Mark Stoops was never like, he's not

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Speaker 1: school discipline, work hard, you know, be uh no penalties,

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Speaker 1: be all that kind of stuff. And then the theory

433
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Speaker 1: was we can't get the talent, but then he goes

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Speaker 1: and gets the talent, and you're exactly right. We've lost

435
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Speaker 1: some of that. Now, we've lost all the things that

436
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Speaker 1: the sort of fundamentals and all the things that were

437
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Speaker 1: why we like Stoops and his energy level and his

438
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: connect the fans, and you're you are exactly right. We

439
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: can forgive if we lose because George's got a better

440
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: roster than us. We can forgive that. What we can't

441
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: forgive is George's got a better roster and they play harder,

442
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Speaker 1: and they're smarter and they make good decisions. Like that's

443
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Speaker 1: what I can't get over. I can get over their

444
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: players are better. I can't get over that they try

445
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Speaker 1: harder and that they're smarter.

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Speaker 11: And the last thing, I'll just leave it on. You

447
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Speaker 11: can tell the motivation. The thing that I took away

448
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 11: the most because I watched the whole game kind of

449
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 11: kind of shows you how bad it's been the fact

450
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Speaker 11: that I watched the whole game of that. But at

451
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Speaker 11: one point, I think we were down twenty eight to

452
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Speaker 11: seven and George's on the goal line. They have a

453
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 11: bad play and they can't get it off. Kirby calls

454
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Speaker 11: the timeout and you can hear audibly over the mic

455
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Speaker 11: on the broadcast him have a hot mic moment yelling

456
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Speaker 11: at his team. Why is he the one yelling at

457
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Speaker 11: his seen when he's that, when he's up twenty eight

458
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Speaker 11: to seven, and when we have a spot like that,

459
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Speaker 11: You look at Soups and he just looks. He doesn't

460
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 11: look mad, he looks annoyed. He doesn't say nothing.

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate the God because you demand excellence. I mean,

462
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Speaker 1: you know part of how you have success as you say,

463
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Speaker 1: we're not gonna have bad, bad games, bad plays. And

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Speaker 1: Kirby's always done that. A lot of the great coaches

465
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Speaker 1: do it. They coached till the last last play. Who's next?

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Speaker 2: Max, Max?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead? Max?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? First of all, I'd like to know who and

469
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Speaker 12: who's gonna beat Georgia today. Anyways, after they loss last week,

470
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Speaker 12: Number one and number two is you got the ref

471
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Speaker 12: calling on critical plays, you know, and that they missed

472
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Speaker 12: a couple of calls that they even announced on TV.

473
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Speaker 12: And then how does Billy feel about that big w

474
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Speaker 12: Ku running back over there and they're five and oh

475
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Speaker 12: that looks good?

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Speaker 1: All right, well those are three very different points. But

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Speaker 1: all right, Uh, I mean, I don't know if anybody

478
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: was gonna beat Georgia today, but I can tell you

479
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of teams that would have made

480
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Speaker 1: sure that they ran the clock correctly at the end

481
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Speaker 1: of the first half so they had another chance at

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Speaker 1: the end zone, right. A lot of teams would have

483
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Speaker 1: done that. So I'm not asking to win. I'm asking

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Speaker 1: let's not do Let's not be both less talented and

485
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Speaker 1: also less prepared and also less smart. I don't think

486
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Speaker 1: that's too much task. Vany's not gonna get out. I'll

487
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: tell you, they may not win this game against Alabama,

488
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Speaker 1: but they won't be out smart in this game, and

489
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: they won't be out hustled in this game. Why can't

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Speaker 1: we at least do that? I don't think that's too

491
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Speaker 1: much to ask. Who's next? Steven, Steven go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Steven hey Man, long time listener, first on caller, Who are.

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Speaker 13: So?

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Speaker 6: My thing is, I've been a fan for I'm forty

495
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 6: two years old. I've watched the ups and downs of

496
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Speaker 6: Kentucky football and you as well as I know. Back

497
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 6: in the day, long before we were alive, Kentucky made

498
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Speaker 6: a decision that we're going to be a basketball school

499
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Speaker 6: over a football school. Now, with nil and the money

500
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Speaker 6: that the university says they have, with rev share and everything,

501
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 6: why can't we be good at both?

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Speaker 1: Can't we can be good? We can be good at both.

503
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Speaker 1: I don't think we can be championship level in football,

504
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: but that's a different question than can we be good? Okay,

505
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: so I'm with you. I think that the rev share

506
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: and the Nile have changed it to where Kentucky can

507
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: now be good regularly at football. I don't think they

508
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: can be championship level, but right now we're the worst

509
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Speaker 1: team in the SEC.

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Speaker 6: Which I totally agree. Moving forward, if Barnhart decides he's

511
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Speaker 6: going to give Stoops one more year, we have to

512
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Speaker 6: go out and make a splash higher as an OC either.

513
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Speaker 6: We got to hire Jimbo Fisher to come in and

514
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Speaker 6: run the offense. We got to hire Mike McDaniel's the

515
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Speaker 6: head coach of the doll If he gets hired, we

516
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 6: have to have somebody come in and take control of

517
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Speaker 6: the offense until stoops. Hey, listen, this is my show.

518
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Speaker 6: You stay out of it because but do you think

519
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Speaker 6: that would work?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you think let me ask you a question,

521
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Speaker 1: all seriousness, do you think that would work. Do you

522
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Speaker 1: think people would get excited about that? I mean, just

523
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Speaker 1: to give you an example, we had Liam Cohen, who

524
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: may be the hottest play caller, one of the three

525
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: or four hottest play callers in the NFL right now.

526
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Speaker 1: We'll see if that continues. We had him, and obviously

527
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Speaker 1: with Will Levis we had a lot of success. But

528
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: with Devin Leary, who by the way, is still on

529
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Speaker 1: NFL rosters, we really didn't have a great offense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you think getting the offensive coordinator is going to

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Speaker 1: make a big difference.

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Speaker 6: We got to do something because what we've done over

533
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Speaker 6: the last with three years, it's been atrocious. We've got

534
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 6: to do something now if we move on. My second

535
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 6: point is if we move on from Stoops, it's an

536
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Speaker 6: sec job. There'll be people lying enough to get it.

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00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 6: But everybody talks about John Somerl. John Sumral is not

538
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 6: going to take the Kentucky job only because he's been

539
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 6: here and Stup's is going to tell him exactly what's

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00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: going on.

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Speaker 1: He was here before Stoops. He was here before Stoops.

542
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if John Sumral will take the job

543
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: or not. Okay, but he Stoops will not be the

544
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Speaker 1: one who decides whether Somerral takes the job. He was

545
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: here before Stups. He knows.

546
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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you had to pick, say we move on

547
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Speaker 6: from Stoops, who's your top four right now today?

548
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Speaker 1: I don't know enough. Yeah, I appreciate the call. He's

549
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: probably number one. I don't know after that. I mean,

550
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: we had a conversation on the pregame so about will

551
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Speaker 1: Stein and I, you know, I think he's obviously you'd

552
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: be lucky to get him too. But there are other

553
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: guys like that that I just don't I think. I

554
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: think what Kurt Signetty at Indiana and what this coach

555
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: here at Vanderbilt. What these guys have shown me. The

556
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: guy that's at Mississippi State, you know what, Let's go

557
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: get a young, smart, energetic guy embracing the current new

558
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: college football world of nil and all that stuff. You know,

559
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick shows, you can have all the big names

560
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: you want, but if you don't understand the new world

561
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: of kyleege football, it's irrelevant. Go get me somebody smart,

562
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: like really smart, who's going to attack this energetically and

563
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: who knows. I maybe have never even heard of the guy,

564
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: but he could be the right dude, Right, Kurt Signette's

565
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: not a big name, but it worked, and so that's

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Speaker 1: what I would do. And then it's gonna be up

567
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Speaker 1: to Mintion whoever does it, to make the homework to

568
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Speaker 1: make sure it's the right person. If I'm nine to

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Speaker 1: two eight h twenty two eighty seven, let's take a break.

570
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Speaker 1: Bandy just scored a touchdown. If they win this game, dude,

571
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Speaker 1: If they win this game, Billy, they could go to

572
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Speaker 1: the playoff, Bandy.

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Speaker 2: And that's two in a row. De Bors lost to Vandy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you go tough to it's not

575
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Speaker 2: over yet though he's got a whole half.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break. Be right back. It's a Local

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Speaker 1: Toy Dealers KSR post game Show. Welcome back. It is

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Speaker 1: the Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show. A five nine

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Speaker 1: two eight twenty two eighty seven. I'm gonna read you

580
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Speaker 1: two comments here that I think are interesting for the

581
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Speaker 1: text machine. First, one person writes, this is Ellen and

582
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Speaker 1: frankfort I'm headed home from the Georgia game. So it's

583
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Speaker 1: clearly this person cares they went to the Georgia game

584
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Speaker 1: knowing what was gonna happen. I agree with your statement

585
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: that the football program lacks fan engagement. To give an example,

586
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: with many new players this year, I just wanted a

587
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: program so I could know the players on the team.

588
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: I had to go to multiple places in Commonwealth Stadium

589
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Speaker 1: to even find a person selling a program. It was

590
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Speaker 1: a woman in a booth and it was ten dollars

591
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: cash only she only had a handful of them, and

592
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Speaker 1: she remarked about me behind one. I like to know

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Speaker 1: the players on the team, and I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: they did anything to help me know it. I actually

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Speaker 1: think that's a legitimate complaint, not you know, not finding

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Speaker 1: a program, but I mean, this is a woman who

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00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: travels to Georgia for the game. She just wants to

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Speaker 1: know the players, and you all didn't do anything to

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: make that happen. How many fans out there could have

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00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: known anything about the players that were not Cutter Bowie.

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00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: You know, maybe Alex Fari she Oyes, but that was

602
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: only because the interviews he did on KSR, like nobody

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00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: knew anything. That's so then when things are bad, that

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00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: just makes it worse. And then I think this is

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Speaker 1: also a really good one from the text machine. At

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Speaker 1: what point does the opportunity cost lost with tickets inil donations,

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Speaker 1: et cetera outligh having to pay the buy There has

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00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: to be a point where payment stoops meets what you'll

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00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: lose by keeping him. Yes, there is that point, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're getting very close to it. I don't

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00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: think we were there last year, but we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: close to it this year. And you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: have the numbers to tell, but when I got people

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Speaker 1: coming up to me yesterday at Shady Ray's twenty two

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Speaker 1: year season ticket holders saying I'm not doing this next

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Speaker 1: year if things don't change, yeah, that starts to add up.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know when when you get to

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Speaker 1: that number, but that number, there is a number where

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Speaker 1: that happens. Alabama just scored so that it'll be tied.

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Speaker 1: Looks like at halftime, who's next? Chase Chase, go ahead, Chase,

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Speaker 1: Hey man, how you doing doing good?

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Speaker 13: I just got a couple of things. I'm twenty two.

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Speaker 13: My first memories of Kentucky football were the Mike Hartline

624
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Speaker 13: and Randall Cobb teams. We were never great, We were good,

625
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 13: but those teams were fun to watch. Mark Stoops teams

626
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 13: have never really been exciting, but when we were winning,

627
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 13: it didn't really matter. Now that we're losing, that's a terrible,

628
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 13: terrible combination. So what I want to say is that

629
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Speaker 13: I think we need to be real with ourselves as

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Speaker 13: a program. The majority of this fan base is ready

631
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Speaker 13: to move on from Stoops. Like you've said before, the

632
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 13: appathy is said, and most of the fans are already

633
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 13: turning the page to basketball season. Outside of the twenty

634
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 13: eighteen in twenty twenty one seasons when we lucked into

635
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 13: NFL level talent guys like Josh Allen, Wandell and Benny,

636
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 13: it's been the same story the second half of his career.

637
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 13: Seven wins seasons, middle tier bowl games that were four

638
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 13: and four in by the way, and Stoop's getting out coached,

639
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 13: and the must win big games. So my question, Matt,

640
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 13: I have for you is this with the buyout in

641
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 13: mind and the fan base checked out like it is,

642
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 13: does Mitch start looking at someone like John Sumrall, a

643
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 13: guy who knows the program, has proven he can build

644
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 13: and win at Tulane and could bring the energy needed

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Speaker 13: to get the fan base back and engaged in Kentucky football.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, Well, first of all, appreciate the call. That

647
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: was actually a great call. As a matter of fact,

648
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: I loved your point, and I love the way you

649
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: set up the question. I think, Billy, that he had

650
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: written that down. No, I do, But that's not a

651
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: criticism because I actually think that was a really good call.

652
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Like I think, if you just look that structured, that

653
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: was a call that literally could have been the intro

654
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: to a segment on a radio show. So I'm gonna

655
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: give you a shout out, But I don't I think

656
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: he had it written down, Billy, because if not, If

657
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: you did write that down and you did that live,

658
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: then you ought to think about doing a podcast.

659
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

660
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Give I'm serious. If you're twenty two years old and

661
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: you did that without writing it down, then yeah, you

662
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: can do this now. If you wrote it down, I

663
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: still give you a shout out for it because it

664
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: was still good. But I'm just saying I think he

665
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: wrote that down. But either way, your point is good.

666
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: At what point does it happen? I'm just gonna act

667
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: like it was me, Okay. Any good leader has to

668
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: think of all contingencies. I remember sitting with Mitch Barnhart

669
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: one time and he told me, this was years ago,

670
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: that every single program out on his campus, he had

671
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: a list of three to five coaches in his desk

672
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: that he capped constantly updated that if he needed to

673
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: replace a coach, here is my wish list. He told

674
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: me that once for literally every sport all nineteen or

675
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: having me they have on campus. If that's the case,

676
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: and I believe him, why would you have said that otherwise?

677
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Then he's got a list of names. And I think

678
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: what Mitch needs to do between now and Texas is

679
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Mitch needs to sit there and think. He needs to

680
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: do the number calculation. The text machine person just asked

681
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: me about what's the point of no return. He needs

682
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: to sit there and think if I need to get

683
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: him money for a buyout, where would it be. Do

684
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: I want to bring him back? If I don't bring

685
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: what does he need to do in the next seven

686
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: to games to get bring back. He needs to have

687
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: that thought because there needs to be no surprises. There

688
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: can't be like there was after col a handful of

689
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: days where you were trying to figure it out and

690
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: then like let's go on TV and sit next to

691
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: each other awkwardly, you just got an If he doesn't

692
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: win six games, it ain't happened, like he just needs

693
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: to know. And then he needs to have that list.

694
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: And if I believe what I believe Mitch, he told

695
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: me years ago he has a list for everybody. So

696
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: he has a list, and I think on his list

697
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: going into this season would have been two names, John

698
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Sumraw and Brad White. Brad White, I think he's a

699
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: good coach. He can't be on there now. You're not

700
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna get the fans back if you switch to Brad White.

701
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: So some wrong and then there needs to be a

702
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: second lit group. And at that point there's a lot

703
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: of names, and some of them I probably don't know.

704
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: Most of them. I probably don't know.

705
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, who's next, Jose?

706
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jose.

707
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 14: I just want to criticize the variety of offensive plays

708
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 14: that Bush Hampden has. I mean, we have just flick

709
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 14: pass sweeping to the left, flick pass sweeping to.

710
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: The right, run down the middle.

711
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 14: How many passes have we throne that go in the

712
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 14: air for more than ten yards?

713
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: Very few. Jesse Palmer, who I think is a really

714
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: good announcer in addition to hosting The Golden Bachelor, Uh was,

715
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: without being mean, if you read between the lines, pretty

716
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: brutal towards bush Hamden today, and rightfully so in my opinion, who.

717
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 14: Is more apathetic the fans store Stoops or Stoops towards

718
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 14: the fans.

719
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Fans towards Stoops. Stoops cares about the fans. I mean,

720
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. He's I do not believe him.

721
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: He said today, like, you know, I think he was

722
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: up with with Tom in the postgame Billy, didn't he

723
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: say something like, I promise it doesn't bother me when

724
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: people said do you do you? Did you yea?

725
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: Something like that criticism He's.

726
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: That's not true, that's not true. Part of why I've

727
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: always liked Mark Stoops. You know, Mark's probably not gonna

728
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: be thrilled with me over my comments yesterday and today,

729
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: and that it's unfortunately part of doing this gig, but

730
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: part of why I like Mark Stoops a lot is

731
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: he wears his heart on his sleeve and he cares

732
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: about what people think. And the thing about caring what

733
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: people think is when you care what people think, it's

734
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: harder because it hurts. If you don't care what people

735
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: if you have no shame, then it's easy to do

736
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: pretty much anything. But if you care about what people think,

737
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: it can be hard. And like Cal didn't really care

738
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: what people thought. Cal cared what some people thought, but

739
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he cared what the general public thought.

740
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: He cared what specific like sports writers or maybe what

741
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: his fellow coaches thought, but he didn't care about what

742
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: kind of a general fan thing. Stoops does. He can

743
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: say with Tom, I don't care the criticism. He's not

744
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: telling the truth he does. It does bother him, so

745
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: I think the fan base is more apathetic Stoops. This is.

746
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is eating him up. I have not

747
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: talked to him since the season started, but I know

748
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: it's got to beating him up for what I know

749
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: about him. This is eating him up. And I don't

750
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: know why he says things like that. I think he

751
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: thinks that saying the criticism doesn't bother him is the

752
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: right thing to say, But I would just say to him, dude,

753
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: be honest, it does bother you. And if you say that,

754
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: people will look at you more like you're a human

755
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: and you care. You know. One of his biggest strengths

756
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: early on is that people thought he cared, and now

757
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: I think people think he doesn't. And why does he

758
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: want to give that impression because I don't even think

759
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: it's true.

760
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 2: The quiet off season didn't help.

761
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Yes, why did he do that? That's not you. I

762
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: feel like he's tried to be someone he's not the

763
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: last few years, and it's only been to his detriment

764
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Who's next, Jerry, Jerry, go ahead, Jerry, hey.

765
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 15: Man, I got a couple of quick things I'll get off.

766
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 15: I think we're letting Brad White off. I mean, I

767
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 15: heard Jesse Palmer say today three different times. Third seven

768
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 15: Eric cornerbacks are eight to ten yards off.

769
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Speaker 1: Of He did note that ain't okay. I'm sorry, no, no,

770
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: no politics. You're right, he made that point. He made

771
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: that point. You're exactly right.

772
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 15: Go ahead, and Jesse Palmer to get up. You got

773
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 15: to play bump and run, and it's just like all

774
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 15: it was. Man was like pitch and throw and I

775
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 15: lie Brad White, But I see something else that just

776
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 15: kills me. You bring a freshman, a true freshman, off

777
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 15: the bench, and he looks like your best receive you

778
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 15: got on the team. The kid I think he was

779
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 15: out of New Jersey. Yeah, we've got kids on there

780
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 15: like Gilmore and Law and that bunch. They flat out.

781
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 15: And another thing about Gilmore personal, it's just like his

782
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 15: effort is just not there. But the kid from New

783
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 15: Jersey come in and call three or foot balls and

784
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 15: and God bless you, soul man. But if you can't

785
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 15: get open, you know, I mean, just play the freshman.

786
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 15: I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

787
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean he better play more. I mean

788
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: that kid, like I said, I appreciate the call. I'd

789
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: never heard of him ttough today he better play more.

790
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: He was the best player we had on offense. You know,

791
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't like. I think sometimes it can be tough

792
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: for reading people's body language. We sometimes read too much

793
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: into it. But I don't know, Billy, that picture of

794
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: Gilmour and Law on the sideline at the end, Boy,

795
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: that didn't look like two dudes that were completely engaged.

796
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jerry's right.

797
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean Kentucky allowed twelve play seventy five yard drive

798
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: the first drive of the game and then followed it

799
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 3: up allowing a thirteen play ninety six yard drive.

800
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was where the Brad White's defense, which I

801
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: think is generally speaking pretty good, they did not come

802
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: out of the gate. Well. Now, I do think they

803
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: played better after that, but yeah, that was they got

804
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: dominated at the beginning. I thought after that second drive

805
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: we were gonna lose. It was five to nothing, but

806
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: then we at least got a little better than that

807
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: one more and we'll take a break. Who's next?

808
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: We got another Jerry on the one?

809
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I bet I thought the last one would be this Jerry.

810
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess this one is that's Jerry. What's up? Jerry?

811
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 12: Hey man?

812
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 8: You know, you take me a hard time about being

813
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 8: negative full season, and the reason why I just didn't

814
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 8: see how, with the same offensive coaches that couldn't coach

815
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 8: all that talent last year, that the defense is going

816
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 8: to be able to hold bit often team out enough

817
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 8: points that the offensive score points to beat them. And

818
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 8: and that's where we are. And you know, at this point,

819
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 8: something happens Stu, Like you said, something happens Stupids about

820
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 8: kind of pony up. That whole thing changes. He started

821
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 8: making just some disastrous decisions, and I'm not going to

822
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 8: go for all of them.

823
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: But no, you're you're, you're right. That is the moment.

824
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Just for the record, Jerry, I give you a hard

825
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: time a lot, but you are one hundred percent correct.

826
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: Something happened in the way that he looked at this

827
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: job and fan base somewhere around the pony up. I

828
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: think we will look back one day and say, the

829
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: fall of the Stoops era started with that fake pun

830
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: against Missouri, because if you remember, oah, I mean was

831
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: there yeah, and then and I don't know if that

832
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: was was that before pony up or after? I can't remember.

833
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: It was one of those two games. Either Missouri came before,

834
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: did Georgia come Missouri? Did Georgia become Missouri to the Missouri

835
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: become Georgia. I can't remember, but either.

836
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 10: Way Georgia.

837
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 8: And he came back with that.

838
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: Yes, And I remember being like, and I appreciate the call, Jerry.

839
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: I remember saying, you know, losing to George is not

840
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: the problem. The problem is we lost to Missouri. That

841
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: was the problem. And when he said pony up, I

842
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: remember thinking, dude, this is not what you're like. You're

843
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: not that guy. Why are you saying this and something

844
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: during that period. You're exactly right. I think his whole

845
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: way he looked at this, this thing, and the way

846
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: he talked and all that. It did change then. And

847
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: I don't, I honestly don't know why. Honestly, I honestly don't,

848
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: but you're right. That's the moment, that two week period

849
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: of the fake punt against Missouri, when we're up fourteen nothing,

850
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: they do the fake punt and then come back and

851
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: beat us at home, and then the pony up after

852
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: the Georgia game. That that that was. That was when

853
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: it changed. A five nine twenty two eighty seven. We

854
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: will take a break, take a final segment. We return.

855
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: It's a local Toy Dealers KSR post game show. Welcome back.

856
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: So a couple of things here. You got UCLA leads

857
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: Penn State twenty seven to seven. How's that possible? Ucla

858
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: is awful? Like there they were gonna go oh to twelve.

859
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: This year, Nico at quarterback two.

860
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean they literally, well they fired the coach, and

861
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: obviously I think their coach is what Deshaun Foster. Foster. Yeah,

862
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: I think so clearly that was a mistake because they

863
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: fired him and at least they're big Penn State. You

864
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: can't lose this game for Penn State. And you know,

865
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: with note, with the game being over, what are you

866
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: gonna do tonight? With rare Saturday night off for us?

867
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

868
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 10: Oh?

869
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: You know, probably pour up a Mimosa, watch Florida State Miami.

870
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: Okay, enjoy that bad Bunny, Bad Bunny on SNL. You're

871
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: gonna do a little bad Bunny.

872
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: You know, I gotta.

873
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: I gotta get into bad Bunny if he's gonna be

874
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl halftime show.

875
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard everybody got mad about that while I

876
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: was gone. Why why was everybody upset?

877
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's just the vocal minority I think you see

878
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: on social media.

879
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: I think I think he'll be fine. He's entertaining.

880
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a huge star, of course they I

881
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: mean I would say, what next to Taylor Swift. He's

882
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: probably the biggest star in the country. Right, So you

883
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: got to get to the bad Bunny. I don't know

884
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: one Bad Bunny song though, do you no, that's the problem.

885
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't. I mean, that's that's English,

886
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: that's just me. I mean, I just don't know any

887
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: of them. I think I've heard him. I will say

888
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: he's good at wrestling. Mm hmmm, I'm not lying. The

889
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: best pop that I've ever seen in wrestling history was

890
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: when they introduced Bad Bunny to Wrestling Puerto Rico. Oh

891
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: he was.

892
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: I feel I've.

893
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: Played that, I think on the radio on the show before,

894
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: but go look at it if you've never seen it.

895
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: When he comes out to Wrestling Puerto Rico. I don't

896
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: know if I've ever heard a louder entrance, and it's

897
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: kind of awesome. And that song that they sing when

898
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: he comes out, he better perform that at the super

899
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: Bowl because that's the only one I've ever heard. All Right,

900
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: who's next?

901
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: TJ?

902
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: TJ? What's up? TJ?

903
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 16: Hey, Matt, glad you're back. Good to hear your voice again. Hey, listen,

904
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 16: I got two points, real quick. I got two points,

905
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 16: real quick. Dane Keith, barry On Brown combined have more

906
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 16: receptions this year than the top five Kentucky wide receivers. Yes,

907
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 16: it may have been the best interest in their careers,

908
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 16: but I don't think it was good for Kentucky. My

909
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 16: second point, I.

910
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: Mean on that point, by the way, and it's not

911
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: like they've been tearing it up. Those two you know

912
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: you're right, but it's not like those guys have been

913
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: killing it. So it just goes to show how bad

914
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: we've been.

915
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 16: But go ahead, yeah, exactly.

916
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: My next point.

917
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 16: Twenty eighteen team twenty twenty one, we won ten games.

918
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 16: If you look at the coaching staff, there's only three

919
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 16: people left, and that's Mark Stoops, that's the defensive coordinator,

920
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 16: and that's eighty Grand, which I don't know what he does,

921
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 16: but I don't think Mark Stoops has continuity anymore. Henshaw left,

922
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 16: some are all left, Vince Marl left, and we've had

923
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 16: seven quarterbacks in the last four years.

924
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 10: You can't do that.

925
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 16: You cannot win in the SEC with no continuity.

926
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Great points. Both of appreciate the call. I think both

927
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: those are really good points. I didn't know that about

928
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: the staff, but makes sense. They have had a lot

929
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: of turnover, and I don't think they had as much

930
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: of that those first few years. So that's a really

931
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: good point. Andy Grant is not even really on the

932
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: coaching staff. He's kind of in an administrative role. Now

933
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: let's do five more. Who's next, Brian, Go ahead, Brian, Hey.

934
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 17: Matt, just two quick questions. I went to your opinion

935
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 17: on first, bigger picture, Why isn't Mitch Borne getting more

936
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 17: heat for the contract set up with Stoops and the

937
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 17: GMI contract.

938
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: He should get more heat for the Jami thing is.

939
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see how that plays out.

940
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: I have my opinions on it, but I think we

941
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: got to see what happens. We might look back at

942
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: it and say it was it was a progressive thing

943
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: to do. We might look back at it and say

944
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: it was a disaster. I don't know. I mean, I

945
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: think we still My initial inclination is I don't like it,

946
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: but I also know there's a ton of unknowns about

947
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: the future, so I'm not ready to completely crush it yet.

948
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: I will say he should get more heat about the

949
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Stoops and cal Perry contracts, But to be fair, I

950
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: try to be fair to people. We didn't really I

951
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: criticized the cow contract a little bit at the time,

952
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: but not a ton. I really didn't criticize the Stoops

953
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: contract at all, But I don't think it hit me

954
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: until I was in South Africa after we lost to

955
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: South Carolina and I thought, man, let me think about

956
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: Stoops's contract, and it kind of hit me that all

957
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: those years were basically free years to not make a bowl.

958
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, wait a minute. So I

959
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: think that was a really bad deal. But I don't

960
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: know that anybody necessarily processed it in the moment, at

961
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: least I didn't.

962
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 17: Yeah, it just seems, you know, from a business standpoint,

963
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 17: like Color mentioned earlier, an opportunity costs. He's just got

964
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 17: to put us in a bind, and you look from

965
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 17: a bigger picture, you might see a little more heat

966
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 17: going on Barnhart's side. But the second question was.

967
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 12: You know.

968
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 17: He doesn't finish out the season as OC.

969
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 15: Yeah.

970
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I mean, if if they were

971
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: going to make a change in OC, you do it

972
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: like tomorrow or Monday. I kind of was listening to

973
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: see if there would be a hint of that, and

974
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything today. Uh so I was but

975
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that, you do it Monday. You

976
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: got two weeks to install the new guy.

977
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, you just got two passing touchdowns, Matt should you.

978
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that it will it will help. I mean,

979
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: I really don't think it will help. So if it's

980
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: not gonna help, what's the reason to do it? But

981
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: do I think it would be ridiculous to do it? No,

982
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: but I don't think they will. I don't think they will.

983
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: It's just I mean, have we done have we ever

984
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: done that? Can you think of a time mid season

985
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: like that Mitch Barnhart's let any coach go mid season?

986
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't think that's ever happened. So I

987
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: would just I would be very surprised if they if

988
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: they did four more, who's next, Jason, Jason, go ahead, Jason.

989
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 5: Hey Man, thanks for taking my call. First off, this

990
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 5: isn't what I called back pishy reference to Missouri games.

991
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 5: I did want to say. I was also at that

992
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: game with the We had like a bunch of dead

993
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 5: balls like first and Fountain did yeap, and we were

994
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 5: we were complaining, we were complaining about it, and there

995
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 5: was a guy that walked up to that said, hey,

996
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 5: you want better football, you got a pony up. So

997
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 5: that had to have been before that, because I sipid

998
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: remember a guy saying that.

999
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Kind of you're saying that somebody said that before. Yeah,

1000
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: huh yeah during the Missouri game.

1001
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody said that during the Missouri game.

1002
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: But I can't remember what the order of that was,

1003
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: whether Georgia was first or Missouri. But I know he

1004
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: said it. I know he said it after the Georgia

1005
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: that the Missouri.

1006
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 5: Game, right right, what I'm yeah, So what I wanted

1007
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 5: to get at was, so you you did a really

1008
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 5: good assessment at the beginning of the show. I won't

1009
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 5: rehash too much of that, but I did, except for

1010
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: the contract. You talk about the contracts and the biots.

1011
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 5: So I did some number compiling fat compiland earlier this week,

1012
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 5: and this is going to include today. I'm gonna give

1013
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: you his record against the teams that we played that

1014
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 5: we're in our division in Louisville, since we hire since

1015
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 5: he was hired at UK. So here we go, Georgia,

1016
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 5: and you can tell me what you think in relation

1017
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 5: to the contract numbers, how you would race that. Okay, Okay,

1018
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 5: So Georgia ohen thirteen, Tennessee two and ten, Florida four

1019
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: and eight, South Carolina seven and six, Vanderbilt eight and four,

1020
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 5: Missouri seven and four, Louisville six and five, which is

1021
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 5: a total of thirty four and fifty. And of course

1022
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 5: we still play some of those teams, the ones we

1023
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 5: hadn't played.

1024
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. So you've got an eight and four

1025
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: record against against what you say it was against eight

1026
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: and four against Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on,

1027
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: hang on, hang on, seven and six against South Carolina?

1028
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: What was what was Missouri?

1029
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 5: You said seven and four?

1030
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So you essentially you've got a winning record against Vandy,

1031
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Missouri, and Louisville, losing record against the rest

1032
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: of them. I do what that tells me, and I

1033
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: appreciate you bringing those numbers, appreciate the call. What that

1034
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: tells me is that for Kentucky football to be Kentucky

1035
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: football and not to be to be successful, you really

1036
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: have to sit there and say, Vandy, South Carolina, Missouri, Louisville,

1037
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: those four. When we're better than them, we're good, and

1038
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: when we are not better than them, we are bad.

1039
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: Seems pretty simple, right, h What has happened is Missouri, Vanderbilt,

1040
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: and Louisville went and got new coaches, went and got

1041
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: smart coaches, relatively young, and they went and they got

1042
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: intellectus with good offensive minds. Vandys might be a defensive mind,

1043
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: but smart, like really intelligent coaches put them in a

1044
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: different direction and said we're going to do this a

1045
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: different way, and they had a lot of success all

1046
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: three of those schools, and in South Carolina. For all

1047
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: my frustration about Beamer, he has his own thing that

1048
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. But ultimately maybe the success of

1049
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops is are you better in any given year

1050
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: than South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri, and Louisville. Now those teams

1051
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: may change now because we are changing our schedule, So

1052
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: now those teams might be South Carolina, Louisville, and then

1053
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: I guess whichever of Vandy Old miss Arkansas you draw

1054
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: that year. But really it's just that simple. Are you

1055
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: better than South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri, and Louisville. And the

1056
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: reality is you could make a strong argument that going

1057
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: you have to go back a long time to find

1058
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: a time we've been farther behind those four schools than

1059
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: we are right now. Even in the Joker era, at

1060
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: least Vandy stunk, although they beat It's forty to nothing

1061
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: that second year. But I don't know if in my lifetime,

1062
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: or at least in my recent lifetime, we've been farther

1063
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: from South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri Louisville than we are right now.

1064
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: So maybe it's just that. Maybe it's that simple. South

1065
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: Carolina Andandy, Missouri louvel Three more, Who's Next?

1066
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: By the way, October seventh, twenty twenty three, was UK

1067
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: losing at Georgia fifty one to thirteen. October ninth was

1068
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: the pony up comments, and then they lose to Missouri

1069
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: October fourteenth, thirty eight, twenty one.

1070
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: So a week later, Yeah, that was that was what

1071
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: I thought. The chain of events was, we get blown

1072
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: out by Georgia, he makes the pony up comment, and

1073
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: then we follow it up by blowing Missouri. That's that's it,

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00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: because I remember, and that would make sense to the

1075
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: guy saying people were screaming at the game because he

1076
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: had just said it a few days before. That's there

1077
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: you go. Three more Who's new? Dale? Dale? Go ahead? Dale?

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00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 18: Hey man, I'm glad he made it back safely from

1079
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 18: you from your big trip. I know we was all

1080
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 18: pray employee he gets back home place, but.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 18: You know, well, no, absolutely, I mean that's try internationally.

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 5: We know what that's all about.

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00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 19: But my question for you is, so my family, we're

1085
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 19: not that well off. They made the decision to get

1086
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 19: the season tickets back when Stoops got hired way back

1087
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 19: in you know, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, so fired up

1088
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 19: about that. They've had them ever since. And now they're

1089
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 19: talking about, well, how we're going to recoup this money

1090
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 19: because I think I mean, it's only two tickets, and

1091
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 19: like we kind of pass them around and everything, like

1092
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 19: do you I'm kind of asking business advice from you,

1093
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 19: like can we make some of that money back from

1094
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 19: like Texas and Tennessee and maybe maybe even Florida?

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00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: You know if they Yeah, you won't make it from

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00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: Florida because they don't travel. You know. I hate to

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00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: tell you to sell tickets to the other fan base,

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00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: but if you need to Texas and Tennessee, you probably could.

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00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: You probably could sell that their fan base will I

1100
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: think now Tennessee, those people can drive up day of

1101
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: most Texas people. If they're gonna come, they've probably already

1102
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: planned it, right, So, but yeah, those are two games. Florida,

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00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: their fan base doesn't travel unless they're really good and

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00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: they're not really good.

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00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 18: One more thing, I got to give a shout out

1106
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 18: to Drew because Maroons are seven and zero and we

1107
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 18: solved this UK football problem in less than a minute.

1108
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 19: Last week. Just asked Billy, all.

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00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: Right, appreciate the call. What what did you do? How'd

1110
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: you solve it? Appreciate call? Billy?

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00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but oh sure it was a great

1112
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: answer by Drew.

1113
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: Well he's saying you and you and Drew salty.

1114
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: You don't remember, no, but I do remember that postgame

1115
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: show after the loss to South Carolina, and it wasn't

1116
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: really anger. It was just like realization of the situation.

1117
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: Where well, I hope it was only a week ago.

1118
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: So if you've forgotten that, I have, so that might

1119
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: be who's next?

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Speaker 2: Isaac?

1121
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: Isaac? Two more? Go ahead, Isaac.

1122
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 20: I think you kind of hit on a point I'm

1123
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 20: most frustrated about a minute ago. Kentucky doesn't have to

1124
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 20: be bad football in this new era. Bandy and Indiana,

1125
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 20: who are two programs on here? You could say? Are

1126
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 20: actually where's that? Kentucky historically are having some very good

1127
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 20: success right now in the you know, the New Nile

1128
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 20: area all that stuff. So I think what's most frustrating

1129
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 20: than me about being dragted than not just Mark Stoops

1130
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 20: right now, is that I think he doesn't have to

1131
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 20: be bad anymore.

1132
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I think that's correct. The structural

1133
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: problems that kept you from being good in the old

1134
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: era for Kentucky, one of the big one was we

1135
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: didn't produce any talent here relative to the other SEC schools.

1136
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: If you've listened to this show, I said that for

1137
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: fifteen straight years. I think that issue matters less today

1138
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: than it has ever mattered, because you get guys from

1139
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: the portal, and the guys from the portal don't care

1140
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: where you where they grew up, right, So you are

1141
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: exactly right. It matters less now than it's ever mattered.

1142
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: So then it comes about money. Well, Okay, we don't

1143
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: have the money to pay what Georgia, Alabama and Texas

1144
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: are playing, but we do have probably more money than Vanderbilt, Missouri, Indiana,

1145
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: et cetera. And so there's no excuse to not be

1146
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: competitive if not title good. And I would use this example,

1147
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the call. In baseball, you can't beat

1148
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: the Dodgers at the Dodgers game. They have too much money.

1149
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: So like, if you're the Cincinnati Reds, you're never gonna

1150
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: be out able to outstar the Dodgers. So if you

1151
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: lose to the Dodgers, you lose to the Dodgers, what

1152
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? But you can be better than

1153
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: the pirates and the teams that are spending the same

1154
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: amount of money as you or less. That's how the

1155
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays Billy's team's been so good over the years. Right,

1156
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: if you guys have been good, you don't try to

1157
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: out Yankees the Yankees. You just do your thing and

1158
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: sometimes it'll work and sometimes it won't. But you're always

1159
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 1: making the smart decisions. What's frustrating is when you don't

1160
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: have the resources and you make dumb decisions, right, And

1161
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of where we've been the last

1162
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: couple of years. We both don't have the Georgia talent,

1163
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: but we're also making bad decisions. Vandy's playing Alabama right now.

1164
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: If they lose because Alabama has more talent, then that

1165
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: so be it. But they can't lose because they beat themselves.

1166
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: And I don't think they will, but I think we do.

1167
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: And that's my biggest problem. One more who's next, Kyle? Kyle,

1168
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Kyle, what's up?

1169
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 10: Matt? As someone who's known you for fifteen years now,

1170
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 10: my question to you is, are we bringing back section

1171
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 10: two O six?

1172
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: You know that's a great question because that would be

1173
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: a full circle moment, right for people who you know

1174
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: Me and Drew. Were you up there during that.

1175
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 10: That was twenty twelve. I think I was still in college,

1176
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 10: but I don't think.

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Speaker 1: You if you don't remember, you weren't there. There weren't

1178
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: many of us For people who don't remember. When Bandy

1179
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: was playing Kentucky with Joker Phillips Jokers, when we lost

1180
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: forty to nothing and the stadium was basically empty, Drew

1181
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: and I were sitting in the press box and we

1182
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: saw one kid sitting up in I guess it was

1183
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: two six and he was sitting by himself in an

1184
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: empty stand by you, just sitting there, and we were like,

1185
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: that's so cool, and we were like, let's go sit

1186
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: with him and Drew and back then we live blogged

1187
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 1: the games. We walked over, we went up there, sat

1188
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: with him. It was just the three of us, and

1189
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: then we just sort of I think I tweeted out, hey,

1190
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: if you love UK and you're still here, come sit

1191
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: with us, And all of a sudden, Billy, that section

1192
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: grew more and more and more. Have you ever seen these?

1193
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: And by the end there might have been more people

1194
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: in two o six. Then they're weiring to rest of

1195
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: the stadium. That was one of my proud KSR moments

1196
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: because we weren't nearly as known back then. We might

1197
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: have to do that again.

1198
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 10: My last thing.

1199
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: We might have to do that again. It gets Tennessee Tech.

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01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 10: But go ahead, my last, my last thing for you

1201
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 10: to show where apathy gets you, because we all know

1202
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 10: it's setting in. Look just down I sixty four West

1203
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 10: at what apathy has done. They're playing their four and zero,

1204
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 10: playing against a top twenty five team at home, and

1205
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 10: there's nobody there. It's their best team in years. Yeah,

1206
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 10: because of the apathy that they got from Scott's talks

1207
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 10: and just the way that they've handled them. And yes,

1208
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 10: it's the rise of the basketball program coming back there

1209
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 10: after many years being down there too. Apathy gets you

1210
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 10: exactly where that were there at a home game, top

1211
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 10: twenty five team and there's nobody there.

1212
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: I've been surprised that they have not had I appreciate

1213
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: the call more attendants. I've said this, there was a

1214
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: time that going to Louisville home football games was really,

1215
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: really fun, even though I hated him. And they still

1216
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: have not gotten He's right, they still haven't gotten their

1217
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: attendants back. And they're good, and they're playing a top

1218
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: twenty five team in the afternoon, and you know, I mean,

1219
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: there's people there, but it's not what you would think

1220
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: for a team that could go to the playoff, because

1221
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: Louisville could depending on how things go today. We'll see.

1222
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: I do want to read one thing before we get

1223
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: out of here. Nick Coffee wrote me he is in.

1224
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: He is in going to Renfro Valley Billy to see

1225
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Tipping and Sammy Kershaw. That's my kind of concert,

1226
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: by the way, And he says, I stopped at Vendors

1227
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: Barn in Lincoln County for a bathroom break. They've got

1228
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: you blaring down the main aisle. It's the most Kentucky

1229
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: thing I've ever experienced. So to those of you at

1230
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: Vendors Barn in Lincoln County, you're hearing my voice right

1231
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: now while you're talking to the way, you're seeing the

1232
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: vendors in lincol County. Shout out to you all at

1233
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: Vendors Barn my people. All right, thank you folks, very much.

1234
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: Tough loss, but we kind of knew this was coming.

1235
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: Next week, I'm sure we'll talk about more than this.

1236
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: Let's go over some scheduling real quick. Basketball Media Day

1237
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: is Monday, so we will be at Basketball Media Day

1238
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: doing the show Monday. I don't know if we'll get

1239
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 1: to have anybody on or not, but we'll be there

1240
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: at least and then media Day starts at noon, so

1241
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: you'll get a lot about the basketball team. We are

1242
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: at Ksbar Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week if

1243
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: you want to come by and see us. And then Friday,

1244
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: I think we're at Wild Eggs. Is that right?

1245
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: That's right, Wild Eggs.

1246
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: Wild Eggs in Lexington, So many chances for you to

1247
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: come out and say hi. And then Big Blue Madness

1248
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: is next Saturday, and I'm kind of pumped for it.

1249
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie for you. Didn't hear Mark Pope

1250
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: said they're gonna wear the denim uniforms at least once

1251
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: and maybe multiple times this season. So the denim, we'll

1252
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: see what's in them. Appreciate you all very much for listening,

1253
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: enjoy your evening, and I will be on ESPN tomorrow

1254
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: morning and then tomorrow night we will do another cover zero.

1255
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: This has been the local Toyota Dealers KSR postgame show