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Speaker 2: Now, release slowly again, deep in, helle hold release, repeating

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Speaker 2: internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I

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Speaker 2: am deeply, deeply well. I am deeply well. I am deeply.

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Speaker 1: Well. I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on

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Speaker 2: your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,

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Speaker 2: This is where we heal, this is where we try

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Speaker 2: and send Welcome back to the Deeply Well Podcast. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Debbie Brown, and I'm so glad to

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Speaker 2: have you with us this month. November is a time

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Speaker 2: November is such a great time to start to visualize

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Speaker 2: to my heart today with a very special guest, Vish Chatterjy.

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Speaker 2: After a successful career as an engineer, executive, and entrepreneur,

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Speaker 2: Vish is honoring his sole purpose as an East meets

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, DeBie. I'm so so happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Vish.

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Speaker 3: a battery, when you put the battery in it. The

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Speaker 3: battery is draining and so little by little it's dying.

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Speaker 3: But when you put an automatic watch in that doesn't

434
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Speaker 3: use a battery, that goes off your motion, that's your

435
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Speaker 3: heartbeat is moving your body. Your movement of your body

436
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Speaker 3: is moving the mechanism the watch keeping the watch perpetually running.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So an automatic watch is very good for health. That's

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Speaker 3: one of the things. And of course now everyone's like,

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Speaker 3: I want a smart watch. Well, the smart watch dies

441
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Speaker 3: what every four or five days? So how's that for

442
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Speaker 3: your health? The smart watch is on, sometimes off sometimes

443
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Speaker 3: Like what does that do? Versus a watch that's on

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Speaker 3: all the time. So it's been kind of interesting to

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Speaker 3: think about the energetics.

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I'm such a watch person and I

447
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Speaker 2: always have been, Like, as a little girl, I wanted

448
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Speaker 2: an old train station pocket watch, Like that was my

449
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Speaker 2: dream as a little girl. I wanted to hold a

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Speaker 2: pocket watch in my hand to shed the time. What

451
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Speaker 2: But then you showed me, You're like, no, actually you

452
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Speaker 2: should be wearing a watch. It's based on your chart.

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Speaker 2: It's very beneficial for you to have a watch on.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just someone that always loves to tell the

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Speaker 2: time by a ticking hand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's what happened for me in astrology is

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Speaker 3: you know, with Suhaschi. He taught me and I started

458
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Speaker 3: to learn from him initially, and I learned like, wow,

459
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: I can tell somebody's mind body constitution from the chart.

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Speaker 3: But then, of course my question was, well, what else

461
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Speaker 3: can I do with this? Now that this is working

462
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Speaker 3: and I've got these data points, and so what else

463
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Speaker 3: can I do? And then I started diving deeper into

464
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Speaker 3: the system of vadic astrology specifically, I started to find

465
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Speaker 3: you can tell a lot about you can tell about

466
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Speaker 3: what happening to somebody's life, what happened in the past,

467
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Speaker 3: what will happen in the future, what happened last lifetime,

468
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Speaker 3: what happened five life times ago, what's going to happened

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Speaker 3: next lifetime? And it just opened up this whole world.

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Speaker 3: And then, you know, as many astrologers, I'm deep into

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Speaker 3: the chart, I'm looking at the chart, I'm making assessments.

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Speaker 3: But then I realized the chart is just a map

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Speaker 3: of the heavens and the stars to try to map

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Speaker 3: your consciousness. But then let's get out of the chart.

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Speaker 3: Let's get out of the astrology, and let's get into

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Speaker 3: the real world, what's happening around you, and how are

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Speaker 3: events and items in your life related to your energetic

478
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Speaker 3: and cosmic journey. And that's when I started to realizing, like,

479
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: you don't need a chart. You can literally see the

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Speaker 3: world around you and understand how the planets are acting.

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Speaker 3: So what I did in my book is I just describe,

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Speaker 3: here are these nine planets that we use in Vata astrology.

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Speaker 3: Here are their archetypes, and those archetypes represent many, many

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Speaker 3: things in your life. So Saturn is a slow moving planet,

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Speaker 3: and it is a planet that rules time. So when

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Speaker 3: you wear a watch, you're automatically honoring Saturn because Saturn

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Speaker 3: marks the movement of time. Saturn also is related to karma.

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Speaker 3: And I have so much Saturn and so much Saturn,

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Speaker 3: and so you wear a watch and you start to

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Speaker 3: calm down Saturn because Saturn says, hey, you're somebody that

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Speaker 3: cares about time. When you disrespect time, you're automatically disrespecting Saturn.

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Speaker 3: And Saturn causes hardships and challenges in life. So a

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Speaker 3: lot of times when I see somebody with difficulty with

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Speaker 3: Saturn in their chart, I say, hey, how often are

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Speaker 3: you late to meetings. Oh, I'm late all the time.

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Speaker 3: We'll start showing up on time for meetings. You're going

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Speaker 3: to get Saturn into wac Do you wear a watch? No,

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Speaker 3: I don't wear a watch. Start wearing a watch. You're

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Speaker 3: showing Saturn you honor time. You're on this earth rate

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Speaker 3: limited time? How will you use your time wisely? The

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Speaker 3: watch is a symbol of somebody who wants to use

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Speaker 3: time wisely. I came to your studio this morning and

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Speaker 3: I noticed no one who's wearing their shoes. I said,

504
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Speaker 3: let me take my shoes off. He said no, No, you

505
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Speaker 3: can wear a shoes. That's okay. I said, really, do

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Speaker 3: you normally wear shoes? You said no, I don't, not

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Speaker 3: normally in the house. Well that's good consciousness because shoes

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Speaker 3: are connected dirt. Shoes are connective feet, and that connects

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Speaker 3: to Saturn, the not so good side of Saturn. So

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Speaker 3: when you wear shoes, yeah, there's a hygiene thing, like

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Speaker 3: are you taking the dirt of the outside world into

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Speaker 3: your home? But at the same time, when you wear shoes,

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Speaker 3: you're attracting the dirt of Saturn, the negative side of Saturn,

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Speaker 3: into your sacred space. Right and Saturn causes obstacles and restrictions,

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Speaker 3: so easy advice wear a watch and don't wear your

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Speaker 3: shoes in the house.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is Oh god, I just love it.

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Speaker 2: I just love it. And it teaches such deeper awareness

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00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: as well, right, because I think that's the thing that

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Speaker 2: I find so powerful about this system specifically, is like

521
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: it's so tied to your conscious awareness, you know, it

522
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Speaker 2: is so tied to even the honoring of your past

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Speaker 2: ancestrally to your karma and what you're here to master

524
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Speaker 2: and overturn in this lifetime. Like there's always opportunity to

525
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Speaker 2: draw your attention to kind of what you're here to

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Speaker 2: do and how you're here to do it exactly.

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Speaker 3: And that's what's been fascinating me is how much younger people,

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Speaker 3: and they're of course influencing society now, how much interest

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Speaker 3: there is in astrology. Right, there's just this rising of

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Speaker 3: astrology in the zeitgeist now, and I think the reason

531
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Speaker 3: is people want to figure themselves out. Yeah, Like why

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Speaker 3: am I the way I am? Why do I do

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Speaker 3: things the way I do? My mom and dad told

534
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Speaker 3: me to do this, but I don't feel like doing it.

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Speaker 3: I feel this way. My peer group says, I'm this way,

536
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Speaker 3: but I really feel different. So let me look to

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Speaker 3: astrology to try to answer some of those questions. And

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Speaker 3: what I'm noticing is astrology is so popular in the zeitgeist,

539
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Speaker 3: even in the yoga world. Right, So all these yoga

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Speaker 3: people who are deep in the yoga tradition, they're studying

541
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Speaker 3: the deeper and deeper messages of yoga, and then they're

542
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Speaker 3: trying to find something in astrology because it's interesting, and

543
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Speaker 3: they're gravitating to Western astrology because that's what's accessible and

544
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Speaker 3: popular in society today. And then you grab Western astrology

545
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: and you start to learn things about yourself and like, wow,

546
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Speaker 3: this is interesting I'm learning. But it's a very like

547
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Speaker 3: egocentric psychology based system. And this is where my kind

548
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: of circuit's blue. The Western astrology system, as powerful it

549
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Speaker 3: is when you look at a chart, it doesn't map

550
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Speaker 3: to the sky. It's not related in any way to

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Speaker 3: where things are actually in the sky. And so this

552
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: disconnect and.

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Speaker 1: What is it mapping.

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Speaker 3: It's off it's off of the sky. And I asked

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Speaker 3: Western astrology is this question recently and they said, look,

556
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Speaker 3: we look at the sky, we see these zodiac we

557
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: see these patterns were inspired by the story of those constellations.

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Speaker 3: But then when we cast a chart, it's not actually

559
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Speaker 3: related to where that is in the sky. We're looking

560
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Speaker 3: at the chart as another tool, and so this I

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Speaker 3: don't know why they use a system that's not mapped

562
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Speaker 3: to the actual sky, but the Indian system, the Vedic system,

563
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Speaker 3: maps directly to the sky. What you've seen in the

564
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Speaker 3: sky is what you get in the chart. So if

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Speaker 3: I say, hey, when you were born, the constellation of cancer,

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Speaker 3: the actual zodiac constellation of cancer was on the eastern

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Speaker 3: horizon the moment of your birth. If an astronomer took

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Speaker 3: a telescope at the moment of your birth and looked east,

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Speaker 3: they would actually see cancer stars on that eastern horizon.

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Speaker 3: In the Western system, the calculation is about twenty three

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Speaker 3: degrees off of reality. So they'll tell you, oh, when

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Speaker 3: you were born it was Gemini. They'll say, oh, you're

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Speaker 3: a Gemini rising, But that's actually not what you see.

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Speaker 3: So what they're using is called a tropical zodiac, and

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Speaker 3: you know, it gets into complex astronomy. As the Earth

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Speaker 3: rotates on axis, it wobbles, and as it wobbles, it

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Speaker 3: sort of shifts where the sun rises and every spring

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Speaker 3: where the sun rises the vernal equinox they call in

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Speaker 3: Western astrology, that is a zero degree starting of the zodiac.

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Speaker 3: But they picked a point in space that keeps shifting

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Speaker 3: because the sunrise the in the spring changes every year.

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Speaker 3: So every seventy two years the Western zodiac shifts by

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Speaker 3: one degree, and now it's shifted to twenty three degrees.

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Speaker 3: But at one time the Western zodiac and the Vada

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Speaker 3: zodiac aligned. I believe that's when they started their system,

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Speaker 3: maybe two thousand years ago. The Vedic system is fifteen

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Speaker 3: thousand years.

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Speaker 1: Old, fifteen thousand.

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Speaker 2: Easily, if not more, fifteen thousand years ald.

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Speaker 3: And so there were these Rishis, these sages of India

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Speaker 3: that sat in deep meditation and they heard the message

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Speaker 3: and meaning of the universe, and in their brains, in

593
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: their deep complex awareness, they understood, this is the nature

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Speaker 3: of our very existence and consciousness. And they intuited that

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Speaker 3: the stars communicate with us, and they came up with

596
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: the system of mapping what star was where they picked

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00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: a fixed point in space that never changes, and that

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Speaker 3: fixed point in space is how they base their calculations.

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00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: So fifteen thousand years ago, ten thousand years ago today,

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Speaker 3: five thousand years from now, twenty thousand, three years from now.

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Speaker 3: The zodiac never changes, it's fixed. That's the Indian system.

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00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 3: And so when I started to see this correction in math,

603
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Speaker 3: that's when I realized, Oh, that's why I was skeptical

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Speaker 3: before with astrology, because the math was wrong. And that's

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Speaker 3: why I'm now a believer of astrology, because the math

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00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: right depending on the system. And so these seers had

607
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 3: this sense and they started communicating in oral tradition. They

608
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: started telling people one generation after another about this system

609
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Speaker 3: your Veda, Yoga, Vedic philosophy, Vedanta, Joddish Vedic astrology. All

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Speaker 3: these systems will transmit an oral tradition. So you can

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00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: imagine that from the heavens they learned something, but the

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00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: moment they spoke it, some fidelity got reduced because the

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00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: spoken word is not as powerful as the intuitive understanding. Right. Then, finally,

614
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Speaker 3: after maybe eight ten thousand years of oral transmission, about

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Speaker 3: five to seven thousand years ago, they started writing it down.

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Speaker 3: This became known as the works called the Vedas. The

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Speaker 3: Vedas right, and this is where all the teachings are

618
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Speaker 3: in these texts. So now you lost some fidelity you

619
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Speaker 3: spoke it, and now even more fidelity was lost once

620
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: it was written down, because the written form isn't as

621
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Speaker 3: powerful as spoken, not as powerful the listening, not as

622
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Speaker 3: powerful as intuition. Then those texts along the way got lost, destroyed, burnt,

623
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Speaker 3: multiple invasions, the Muguls, the Muslims invaded India, subjugated the people.

624
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Speaker 3: The British came to India, subjugated, burnt texts, the Muslims

625
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: destroyed temples, So a lot of history. So all those texts,

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00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: some small percentage then remains. Then the learned people who

627
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: understood the texts, like my family, were told, hey, forget

628
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: about that nonsense, go study this other stuff. So not

629
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: only do you lose a lot along the way, but

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00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: the texts that remain were only studied by people who

631
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: weren't really qualified then have their real consciousness. So then

632
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: it sort of got reduced into nothing. And of course

633
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Speaker 3: eurocentric view of history, your strange review says, the Indians

634
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: didn't know anything. Everything came from outside. They were invaded

635
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: by other forces, and those forces brought all these systems

636
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 3: to India. That's like a revisionist, like colonial bridge centric

637
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: way of thinking. Now with genetic testing. We're realizing, oh wait,

638
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: the Indian people actually knew something. It started in India, right,

639
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: So for me, I feel like an agent of this,

640
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: you know, bringing back the wisdom of the indigenous culture

641
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: of India. It's time now, why should we stay suppressed

642
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: all this time? So then as you start to think

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00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: about astrology, you start to realize where was the original system.

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Speaker 3: It was in India, And this fascination of Western astrology

645
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Speaker 3: is sort of this derivation of the original system. It

646
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: has wisdom, it has power, but it doesn't go as deep,

647
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Speaker 3: it doesn't have the history and integration with other cultures.

648
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Speaker 3: It's almost like comparing plates and yoga. Yeah, they're both stretching,

649
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Speaker 3: but they're totally different.

650
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they both are deep and can be revolutionary,

651
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: but very different. Yeah, and have some that's so fascinating,

652
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Speaker 2: Like all of the way that you're described this is

653
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Speaker 2: opening a few doors in my brain to things I

654
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Speaker 2: can't wait to feast on later.

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Speaker 1: Deeply, Well, Vish.

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Speaker 2: I would love to open up your book for those

657
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Speaker 2: that are our YouTube subscribers that are watching this on

658
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Speaker 2: the Debbie Brown well Being YouTube page. Yeah, can I

659
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Speaker 2: see that beautiful box you have so I brought a

660
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Speaker 2: nicely boxed packaged book for your team.

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Speaker 3: And if you're watching this live on video, just imagine

662
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Speaker 3: you're receiving this box as a gift. Unfortunately after actually

663
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Speaker 3: go and buy the book, but imagine I'm presenting it

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Speaker 3: to you, and I'd like to present this to your team.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

666
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Speaker 2: This is so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I love the color.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I'm so honored to have given a

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Speaker 2: quote for your book.

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Speaker 1: So want the card and the back. Oh, this is

671
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Speaker 1: so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna put.

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Speaker 1: This down and open it up.

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Speaker 2: I hope those listening are enjoying the sound of opening paper.

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Speaker 2: Do you hear that?

676
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Speaker 1: Ah?

677
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: This is so gorgeous. This is so beautiful, gorgeous, purple color, gold.

678
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Speaker 3: And Debbie, take the jacket off the book, because this

679
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Speaker 3: is what I was really very touched. The publisher made

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Speaker 3: the effort to like still honor the actual jack, the

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Speaker 3: actual color. It's got this gold foil and silver foil

682
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Speaker 3: in there.

683
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Speaker 2: It feels so substantial.

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Speaker 3: And then the pages, the paper, like the luxuriant paper.

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Speaker 3: Just I mean, I'm so touched with do you hear that?

686
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Speaker 3: Do you hear me doing the pages?

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Speaker 2: It's Vish. It's absolutely stunning. The quality is incredible. It

688
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Speaker 2: feels like an heirloom quality book to stay in the

689
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Speaker 2: family and to use for generation after generation. It is gorgeous, gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Everyone go get this book. It's gonna you know, what

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Speaker 2: I think is going to be so special for people

692
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Speaker 2: when they get this book and work with it. Also

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Speaker 2: have to shout out my dear friend, doctor Shila Patel,

694
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Speaker 2: who did the forward of this book, who's the chief

695
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Speaker 2: medical officer at Chopra Global and just incredible wise woman.

696
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Speaker 2: What I think is going to be so fun for people,

697
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Speaker 2: especially now is and this is my belief based on

698
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Speaker 2: conversations I've had with people that listen to this show.

699
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: We're all like, we all have big brains and big

700
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Speaker 2: hearts and are really hungry for tools that we can apply.

701
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Speaker 2: And so I think this book is one of the

702
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Speaker 2: ways that kind of helps you be a scientist in

703
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Speaker 2: your own life. You know, you can really kind of

704
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Speaker 2: use this book as a trusted companion of looking at

705
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Speaker 2: your life, of looking at the different facets that may

706
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Speaker 2: be coming up and saying, like, how do I interact

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Speaker 2: with this based on who I am and who I

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Speaker 2: was designed to be?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. I love this comment. You may

710
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Speaker 3: being a scientist of your own life. You know, we're

711
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Speaker 3: all on a journey of discovery and the vading system

712
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: and how your Veda medicine and yoga system and in

713
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Speaker 3: Vada astrology system. The more aligned you are with your soul,

714
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Speaker 3: the more health, happiness, and well being you have ah

715
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Speaker 3: and the more misaligned with your soul you are. When

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Speaker 3: you're misaligned with your soul's needs, you start to have

717
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Speaker 3: disease in the mind, which eventually shows up as disease

718
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Speaker 3: in the body. So a lot of our modern challenges

719
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Speaker 3: that we have in our life, psychological and physical, tend

720
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Speaker 3: to be because we're not honoring this. The soul has

721
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Speaker 3: a mission and an intention, and I had that right Like,

722
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Speaker 3: my soul is aligned. My soul wants to revive the

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Speaker 3: tradition of my ancestors. My soul is asking and saying, hey,

724
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Speaker 3: you need to honor this suppressed tradition. You with your education,

725
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: your voice, your light, you have a mission to share

726
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: this wisdom tradition of your ancestors with the modern world.

727
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Speaker 3: Be that bridge between the ancient and the modern. So

728
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Speaker 3: what did I do? I said, No, I don't want

729
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Speaker 3: to do that. I want to be a corporate executive.

730
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Speaker 3: I want to be a CEO. I want to make

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Speaker 3: lots of money. I want to rise from the corporate world.

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Speaker 3: I want to get my MBA. I want to get

733
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Speaker 3: an engineering degree. So I did all that, and in

734
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Speaker 3: a way that was part of the soul's journey. But

735
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Speaker 3: I clung onto it and I wanted it, and I

736
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Speaker 3: started to have disease. I started to have disease in

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Speaker 3: my mind. I started to feel very frustrated, very angry,

738
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Speaker 3: very sort of misaligned, and eventually was showing up with

739
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Speaker 3: health challenges growing up in my body, which happens. And

740
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Speaker 3: at the time, if I'd been more open, if i'd

741
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Speaker 3: gotten an a your vedic physician, they would have looked

742
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Speaker 3: and said, you're not aligned with your soul. Start aligning,

743
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Speaker 3: you'll start to feel better. Right. And so it took

744
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Speaker 3: me going through the crisis of trying to create a

745
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Speaker 3: startup and going through the frustration of fundraising, building, and

746
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Speaker 3: then the whole startup crumbling for me to finally brought

747
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Speaker 3: to my knees and listen to my soul.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now.

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Speaker 3: If I look at my chart, it's like it was obvious.

750
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Speaker 3: Why did I see it? But I didn't understand this stuff.

751
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't aligned. And so a lot of times, you know,

752
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Speaker 3: discovering what is your sole purpose? Why are you here?

753
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Speaker 3: What are you here to do? Vedic astrology helps you

754
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 3: really decode that, decode what is the soul intending, and

755
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: start making choices are aligned. And that's why most times

756
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: when somebody gets a reading, they're like, oh my god,

757
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: I knew that all along. Thanks for validating what I

758
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: already knew in my intuition.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So beyond astrology, the more that you cultivate and connect

761
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Speaker 3: to your soul and your intuition, the more aligned life

762
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: you're going to have. That's why when you do practices

763
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: such as meditation, practices such as yoga, these are practices

764
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Speaker 3: that are trying to align you to your soul, you

765
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Speaker 3: start making more soil oriented choices. Even Seth Guru once said,

766
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Speaker 3: when a yogi comes from an astrologer, a yogi comes

767
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: and say, hey, please use my chart, the astrology says,

768
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Speaker 3: why do you need to read the chart. You've already

769
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Speaker 3: transcended the chart your yogi. When you do yoga, you

770
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Speaker 3: change your karma, You align to your soul. You're no

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Speaker 3: longer subject to the grip of these planets. You move

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Speaker 3: beyond them.

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Speaker 2: It's just such a beautiful dance. Yeah, it's such a

774
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Speaker 2: beautiful dance. And astrology especially is just to me, it's

775
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: just exquisite, Like it is this beautiful, beautiful way to

776
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Speaker 2: interact with.

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Speaker 3: Your soul while you're here, right, And I think that

778
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Speaker 3: the intimidating part is how do I know my astrology? Right?

779
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Speaker 3: People are like, well, it's you know, like in Western astrology,

780
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Speaker 3: you tell somebody what month you're born, and they're like, oh,

781
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: you're this sign, and then you've gravitated that sign. It's

782
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: a cocktail party conversation and it's great. But then you

783
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 3: go to Vadic astrology and your cocktail party and you say, hey,

784
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Speaker 3: i've you know what's my Hey Vish, you're an astrologer,

785
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: what's my sign? I'm born on this date? I don't know.

786
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: I have to calculate it because astrology, in the Vedic sense,

787
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: you have to know the exact time of birth, the

788
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: exact planet location on planet Earth that you're born. You

789
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: need those details to get an exact astronomical calculation. So

790
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: what was the time of your birth? What was the

791
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Speaker 3: date of your birth? Where on planet Earth were you born?

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Speaker 3: Based on that calculation, I'll tell you your rising sign.

793
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Speaker 3: So that's not as easily transmittable in a cocktail party

794
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Speaker 3: or you know, pop culture kind of conversation. But once

795
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: you know, then it's like, oh now I got to

796
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: look at this complicated chart. I got to find an

797
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Speaker 3: astrologer to tell me all this stuff. Oh my god,

798
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: it's too intimidating, it's too difficult. Well let me get

799
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Speaker 3: a book on vedic astrology. Well, all the books all

800
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: out there, very complicated, right, So you know, you get

801
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Speaker 3: like a client gets a reading and they're like, tell

802
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: me a book to read, and I, you know, whatever

803
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: I recommend. They're like two chapters in they're like, I'm

804
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 3: too confused.

805
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Speaker 2: And they're like I need to learn another language to

806
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Speaker 2: be able to process. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Even doctor Sheila Petel, who's a doctor, she's like, I

808
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: tried many times, I can't figure this out. Right. So

809
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: my goal was to write a book that is accessible

810
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: to everyday people, very accessible. You pick up this book

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Speaker 3: and all I'm there to do is teach you the

812
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: basic personalities, the basic archetypes of these nine planets. And

813
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Speaker 3: once you know these nine planets and their personalities, and

814
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: I tell them through story, through archetypal stories, mythology. Once

815
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: you know that character, then you can understand how they

816
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: express themselves through a zodiac sign and may not be

817
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: known in the Western astrology as well, but every sign

818
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: has a planet that is behind it. So for today,

819
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Speaker 3: when I arrived here and Sino, I pulled up the

820
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Speaker 3: chart and it's a Capricorn rising Capricorn. So what does

821
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: Capricorn meaning? People say, Oh, it's practical, it's you know,

822
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Speaker 3: down to you know, just cut and dry and finance,

823
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: good finance whiz. But Capricorn is ruled by Saturn. So

824
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Speaker 3: naturally we're going to talk about Saturn. What's the one

825
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: planet we've talked about so far gets Saturn?

826
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Speaker 1: Funny, we're talking.

827
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Speaker 3: About watches and dirt on your shoes. That's Saturn. It's Capricorn.

828
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: That's behind Capricorn is Saturn. So when you start to

829
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 3: learn about the planets, you understand the signs better. Yeah,

830
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: and then you notice in your life how these planets

831
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: are communicating with you all the time because Saturn is

832
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: tens of thousands of miles away in space and you're

833
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: worried about it having effect on you. Sure, but it's

834
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: very far away. What about right in front of your face. Yeah,

835
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Speaker 3: somebody stuck up their middle finger at you as you're

836
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Speaker 3: driving in the freeway. What planet is that? The middle

837
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 3: finger is connected to the planet Saturn. In the Veda astrology,

838
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 3: each finger is a different planet. So when somebody sticks

839
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: the middle finger at you, they're saying, you know what,

840
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: I hope Saturn gives you a really hard time. That's

841
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: what they're saying.

842
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: That's why that matters.

843
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: So you start to notice in your life around you

844
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: the planets are communicating through your everyday experiences, and so

845
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: I hope is the book opens up a consciousness in

846
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: you to notice what's happening in your daily life and

847
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 3: what those signs are.

848
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Beautiful Astrology Decoded is officially available everywhere. Get it

849
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: primed to you by tomorrow on Amazon or head to

850
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: your local bookstore and get your copy. As we wrap

851
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: up our time together, I'd like to invite you for

852
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: everyone listening to take over and do the soul work

853
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: for today. So at the end of every episode, I

854
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: or my steam guest gives a integration type of experience

855
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: or way of thinking to the audience that we call

856
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: soul work, a way to continue to work with anything

857
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: that has begun to churn or come up to the

858
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: surface from listening to this episode, that they can work

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's see sole Wark point of view. Definitely.

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Speaker 3: So on on the so, I create a website vistrategy

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Speaker 3: go to vistrategy dot com, enter in your birth details

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Speaker 3: the best you know them, the best you know the

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Speaker 3: rough time of day that you think you're born. Put

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Speaker 3: look at what that says. What is the planet that

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Speaker 3: rules your rising sign? It'll spit it out. That planet

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Speaker 3: is a major archetype for you. So let's say that

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Speaker 3: Let's say it's Mercury. Mercury is a planet of communication

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Speaker 3: discipline and persistence and hard work. Let's say it's Jupiter.

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Speaker 3: Jupiter is a planet of wisdom and knowledge and teaching,

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Speaker 3: and of course you can look up those archetypes if

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Speaker 3: you get the book, then they list what are the

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Speaker 3: planetary personalities of these planets. But my assignment to you

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Speaker 3: how that planet is showing up in your life. So

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Speaker 3: let's say it's in this case, in this chart we used,

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Speaker 3: Sun was the ruler of her chart. Her chart was

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Speaker 3: a leorrising. Sun was a ruler. Sun is a planet

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Speaker 3: you start to say, how am I doing in that

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Speaker 3: I inhibiting my expression? So you might go and write down, Wow,

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Speaker 3: you know I've had self confidence challenges. I don't shine brightly,

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Speaker 3: I shy away from the light of light. What's going

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Speaker 3: sole personality and that fixes everything in the chart. That's

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Speaker 3: the one thing you can do right. So if it's Sun,

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Speaker 3: it's your sort of willpower self confidence. If it's Venus

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Speaker 3: sets the planet. It's the beauty and connection to art

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Speaker 3: If it's Mercury, it's expression and communication technology as well.

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Speaker 3: If it's Mars, then it's your willpower and courage and

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Speaker 3: strength to stand up for you, believe in aggression, anger,

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Speaker 3: those things. If it's Jupiter, it's wisdom, counsel, learning, higher knowledge,

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Speaker 3: higher philosophy. So just based on what I shared these

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Speaker 3: few minutes, figure out what is your planet and figure

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Speaker 3: out how well you're showing up to honor that planet

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Speaker 3: that is your sole planet.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: Get the book Astrology Decoded by Vish Strategy. Go to

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Speaker 2: the website, get your birth chart.

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Speaker 1: Combine those two things and.

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Speaker 2: That is your soul work until we meet next episode. Fish,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us on the show.

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Speaker 3: I was so happy to be here. Want to tell

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Speaker 3: all of your viewers and listeners that have a blessed,

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Speaker 3: blessed life, know yourself, explore your soul and whatever challenge

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Speaker 3: you have, they'll start to fade away as you really

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Speaker 3: honor your true personality.

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Speaker 2: So beautifully expressed. Astrology Decoded Vish thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I must say thank you, I must say

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