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Speaker 1: So welcome to your first episode The Debo and Joe.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here

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Speaker 1: with my co hosts Joseph Walter Hayden the Third better

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Speaker 1: known as Joe Hayden. Please like subscribe you don't want

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Speaker 1: to miss what we got going on here. How you

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Speaker 1: doing this morning, Joe on the first day of work,

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Speaker 1: Baby Brother Debo.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: It's an honor of pleasure to be here with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about the show, excited to get to it.

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Speaker 3: The vibes everything you gave um a full blown government

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Speaker 3: name all people don't do the third. Nobody knows Walter,

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Speaker 3: and nobody knows the Third. You out here giving the

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Speaker 3: gyms off the ring. Let's get We got to give

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Speaker 3: them what they ain't never had. Baby, you know, let's

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Speaker 3: get into this though. Let's get into our first topic.

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Speaker 1: Man Michael Parsons was reported that some of his Cowboys

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Speaker 1: teammates viewed him as egotistical and self centered. That's a

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated reporter Albert Burr. He said, Zach Martin, C. D.

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Speaker 1: Lamb and Dak Prescott are very popular in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Not the case with Persons.

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Speaker 1: Parsons he rattled he will wrangled teammates in different ways,

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Speaker 1: seen by some as egotistical and self centered. His podcast

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Speaker 1: has created issues too, that go all the way back

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Speaker 1: to quarterback Dak Prescott. Dak also added that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: completely surprised by Parsons trade.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of, you know, players having podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at players having podcasts.

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Speaker 3: My thing with players having podcasts is if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: be able to take criticism, you're gonna be able to

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Speaker 3: give criticism. I think you should be able to. It's

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Speaker 3: like an interview, like after the games. You can be

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Speaker 3: able to.

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Speaker 2: If you win, you're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be able to talk to the media. If you lose,

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Speaker 3: you'll be able to talk to the media. Being able

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Speaker 3: to just give constructive criticism and just let him know how.

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Speaker 2: You really feel.

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Speaker 3: I think egotistical and self centered seems personal to me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want to know who said this.

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Speaker 3: Who's saying that I'm egatistical, Who's saying that I'm self centered?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Put a name to it.

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Speaker 2: It's real easy once you.

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Speaker 3: Get out of the locker room to be like this,

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Speaker 3: Oh that man was egotistical. Nobody was saying that when

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Speaker 3: he was there. Nobody was saying that he was sacking

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Speaker 3: everybody up. So I just need people to put names

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Speaker 3: to that. And it seems a little personal to me

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Speaker 3: because nobody was saying that when he was making two

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Speaker 3: point nine million dollars last year when he left for

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Speaker 3: the forty seven ball.

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Speaker 2: Now he's egotistical.

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Speaker 1: So so my thing is this, I think that all

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Speaker 1: players are self centered to a point, and when it

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Speaker 1: comes down to it, you have to be because this

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Speaker 1: is a business. I think what may have happened there

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Speaker 1: he let the business of football kind of get into

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Speaker 1: the locker room and ruin the personal relationships that he

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Speaker 1: dealt with those players. And you know when that get

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Speaker 1: involved and you start to lose the locker room, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's not something that coaches want, especially you know when

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Speaker 1: you're trying to create and get that Lombardi.

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Speaker 4: You know you don't want discord in your locker room. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I understand what they're saying, but to the point of

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Speaker 1: it's not really self centered. Everybody self centered, egotistical, Like

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Speaker 1: you said, I find that being very personal. The feelings

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Speaker 1: a lot of these players nowadays, they are very sensitive.

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Speaker 1: They really shouldn't be getting into their feelings, you know,

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Speaker 1: like when we play, you know, back in two thousand

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Speaker 1: But we were highly you know, critical of each other.

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Speaker 1: We were critical, you know, of ourselves, and we held

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Speaker 1: each other accountable. It was, you know, it was nothing

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Speaker 1: to yell and scream at a guy, you know. You know,

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Speaker 1: I go back to I go back to stories where

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Speaker 1: you got foot, You got Casey Hampton and you got foot,

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Speaker 1: and you know, our big nose top of he clogging

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Speaker 4: So we get and they'll get.

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Speaker 1: Maybe four or five yards on the run, you know,

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Speaker 4: And the first thing hamp would do, he'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, God, damn, what the hell are.

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Speaker 2: Man? Y'all gonna stop and make a tackle or what?

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Speaker 4: And this is like four or five yards.

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Speaker 1: So you got foot in hemp right there, and they're arguing,

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Speaker 4: Like they think we argue with the other team, but

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Speaker 4: we talk to get a flag Man.

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Speaker 1: So that was something that you know, I was used to,

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Speaker 1: You know you're gonna be held accountable and don't do

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Speaker 1: it's going to be pointed out.

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Speaker 4: Bill Cower. Dude when we watch special teams.

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Speaker 1: The whole team watched special teams together and he pointed

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Speaker 1: out everybody that did something wrong, did not do a

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Speaker 1: block right, Like, so we're going in the meeting, it's like, yo, man,

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Speaker 4: You play on special teams? Bro? No for sure, No, man,

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Speaker 4: I I kind of missed that one block.

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Speaker 1: So I think today's you know, players are very very

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Speaker 1: sensitive when it comes to, you know, being corrected.

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Speaker 3: When you're saying that it makes perfect sense because the iron,

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Speaker 3: the sky doesn't lie. And if a coach can show

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Speaker 3: you on the tape and you can take accountability, that's

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Speaker 3: me out there messing up doing that wrong and not

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Speaker 3: being able to have somebody like you did that, being

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Speaker 3: able to be like, no, that's me, coach, that's on me.

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Speaker 3: I got the next one. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Being able to take that criticism, not being like nobody

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Speaker 3: trying to do one up you or let you know,

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Speaker 3: but that's not acceptable. Like if it's on the tape,

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Speaker 3: then it's not good. If you're doing good things on

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Speaker 3: the tape, we're gonna let you know that's perfect. It

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Speaker 3: needs to be done so you're sitting the right stuff

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Speaker 3: and when you do the wrong stuff being able.

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Speaker 2: To take it on the chinning like nobody trying to

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Speaker 2: clown you. Bro. We just know that that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna lose with that.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, like with him, you know, holding

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Speaker 1: that he had an issue with his back and all

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Speaker 1: that other stuff. You know, guys either know or don't know.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell somebody if their back is hurting. But

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Speaker 1: you know, that's something else where. I believe Mike Flores.

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Speaker 1: He reported that you know, the next CBA will find

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Speaker 1: a way to try and stop the hold ds. He

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Speaker 1: said the holding process gives played players who are willing

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Speaker 1: to cite injury real or imagine, and not play the

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Speaker 1: real power the ultimate It's ultimate goal is it ultimately

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Speaker 1: gave Parsons the power to get out of Dallas. Its

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Speaker 1: power the NFL wants to keep. The NFL doesn't want

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Speaker 1: players to have it, so what do you think could

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Speaker 1: in the next collective burdening agreement that would try and outstack.

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Speaker 3: So the NFL basically like this, this is the thing.

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Speaker 3: It is a business. It is a business. I think

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Speaker 3: with Dak Prescott and Cdee Lamb and with the dudes

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Speaker 3: on the on the team, the teammates, you understand that

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Speaker 3: he's going through negotiations. He doesn't want to put himself

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Speaker 3: out there. He's making two million dollars, he's about to be

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Speaker 3: making forty to fifty million dollars per year. It's no

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Speaker 3: point of going out there. And if you are a

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Speaker 3: situation a little different from like, you know, he's Why

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Speaker 1: The NFL will try and attack this with the CBA though, I.

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Speaker 3: Think the NFL man they going, I mean, you can't

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Speaker 3: tell me my back's not hurt. So I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out what specifically they can do to get me

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Speaker 3: to practice or get me to not practice. I think

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Speaker 3: when he's there getting treatment and saying things like that,

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Speaker 3: but I mean, I don't know, maybe they can have

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Speaker 3: to say if you get you're going to go get

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Speaker 3: an MRI, You're going to go do all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you can't tell me that

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Speaker 3: my back doesn't hurt. You can't tell me my back

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Speaker 3: isn't tight. Like I think, go ahead, It's gonna be

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Speaker 3: tough for them to make that. To make that, you know,

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Speaker 3: and make NFL players have to do that, I think.

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Speaker 3: So I think I think we need.

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Speaker 1: I think we need When I say we NFL the

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Speaker 1: NFL PA, I think they need way, way stronger leadership.

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Speaker 1: And I go all the way back to you know,

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Speaker 1: the twenty eleven lockout.

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Speaker 4: You were there for that, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, My My biggest issue with that was we had poor,

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Speaker 1: poor leadership. Dean Maurice Smith. I think he was trash too.

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Speaker 1: When it really comes down to it, I should be president.

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Speaker 1: That's what it should come down to. I really should

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Speaker 1: be president because both The first thing I would do

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Speaker 1: is I would stop letting players vote that are not

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Speaker 1: got fifty three players on the team, right, you got

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Speaker 1: another what is now six or eight ten?

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Speaker 2: So you got total eleven practice squads.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now you go into the season and they

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Speaker 1: bring in an extra fifty guys, right, those extra fifty

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Speaker 1: the guys get to vote on the collective bargaining Agreement.

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Speaker 4: Now, if I'm a rookie, yes, I'm going to vote yes.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what's in there.

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Speaker 1: Why because I get an opportunity to make half a

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Speaker 1: million to multi millions of dollars. I don't care what's

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Speaker 1: in the collective bargaining agreement. But you're not probably going

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Speaker 1: to be there. The average NFL career is three and

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Speaker 1: a half years to get vested. It takes you four

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Speaker 1: years in four games to get vested. Right, But that

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Speaker 1: being a case, you're allowing people who will have no

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Speaker 1: say he and the pod say for something that won't happen.

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Speaker 1: So I think the NFLPA should make a ruling. That's

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Speaker 1: the first one that if you aren't invested into this,

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Speaker 1: you can't a vote into this. The second thing I

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Speaker 1: think they should allow is players. You know, you get

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Speaker 1: five years of healthcare after you're out. Players who are

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Speaker 1: still on that healthcare plan still into the NFLPA.

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Speaker 4: They need to be able to have a vote.

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Speaker 1: The biggest issue I had with d Smith was you

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Speaker 1: were put in position to make the hard decisions, and

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Speaker 1: when it came time to make the hard decisions, you

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Speaker 1: let The majority of what he's told me was eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of guys are saying, Yo, I need to go

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Speaker 1: back to work.

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Speaker 4: I don't have this, I don't have that.

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Speaker 1: Didn't they tell us for two years to save up

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Speaker 1: your money so that you had enough to last a

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Speaker 1: year of a lockout. So the guys, the guys that

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Speaker 1: didn't listen, I'm sorry, But me, being the president of

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA, I'm trying to take care of past president

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Speaker 1: in future. What he did was worried about the guys

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Speaker 1: that didn't listen and didn't do what they were supposed

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Speaker 1: to do, And for me.

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Speaker 4: That is a trash move.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow my son to do something

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Speaker 1: that I know is not good for him. You were

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Speaker 1: putting a position of power where you can make that decision.

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Speaker 1: I had guys on other teams that were like, dude,

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Speaker 1: They were like, oh, yeah, we're going to practice. Everything passed.

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it means a little bit of the same way.

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Speaker 3: I think the vested players, the older guys, the dudes

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Speaker 3: Dudes, some other dudes like you said, that didn't save up,

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Speaker 3: paycheck to paycheck. They like, this is my secondear in

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Speaker 1: Right, So that's what they're counting on. They're counting on

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA president, I think the biggest thing they need

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Speaker 1: to do is make it to where you cannot vote

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Speaker 1: I think that would make it a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: look at the Collective Bargain Agreement. I think that just

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Speaker 1: passed the biggest thing in there was, Hey, we don't

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Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, yeah, you know, you know.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's another thing too.

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Speaker 3: They keeping that over the NFL's head because weed is

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Speaker 3: something that nobody they need to they need to let

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Speaker 3: it be legal. They need to not test dues for

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Speaker 4: I can't agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you this, debo, let me tell you

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Speaker 3: I'm to tell you why I say this, because if

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Speaker 3: you'll get fired. If you there high and can't practice,

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Speaker 3: you're going to get fired. Nobody's gonna want to lose

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be their prerogative. They're grown, they're an adult.

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Speaker 3: They have to do their meetings. That's your job, that's

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Speaker 1: But you also got to understand that that you know,

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Speaker 1: I believe and I see that a lot of these

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Speaker 1: That was during that whole time, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, this thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: gets passed with flying colors where you had teams talking

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Speaker 1: about we didn't even vote. I mean, I understand all

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Speaker 1: they needed was fifty one percent, but like it, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, and it seems like it's a some

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Speaker 4: In the nfl PA.

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Speaker 1: With them making it possible for the NFL to just

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Speaker 2: Man, No, I feel you.

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Speaker 3: I feel I think you just want better representation strictly

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Speaker 3: like they're a little bit of they're a little bit

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Speaker 3: of cahoots. You know what I'm saying at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, not trying to protect the cahoots.

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Speaker 4: I'll get you cahoots.

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Speaker 1: So I'll go back to the whole Al Jazeer thing

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: So the lawyer that the NFL PA gave me, she

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Speaker 1: said she was close friends with d Smith. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, cool, whatever. So I sit down with her

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Speaker 1: have you ever did this?

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Speaker 4: Have you ever did that?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: I ain't did this, I ain't did that, you know.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I was telling her some stuff that my father had did.

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Speaker 1: what did you you know do this?

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Speaker 4: Do that?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I didn't do none of that, you know, blah blah

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Speaker 4: And I'm in there with her as my representative.

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Speaker 1: Right, I sit down in the meeting, and the first

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Speaker 4: None of that. Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 1: If I was guilty and had told her this, she

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Speaker 4: It was no.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, I could respect that you did that. That's

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Speaker 3: that's that's wicked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I see you got that Cleveland hat

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Speaker 1: on though. So let's go ahead go to Cleveland. Now,

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Speaker 1: exactly how you know strong.

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Speaker 4: I would I would say this is.

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Speaker 1: Thomas said, they're not conspiring to sabotage somebody who, by

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Speaker 1: is great for the league because the league wants eyeballs

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Speaker 4: There is no reason they would.

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Speaker 1: Be trying to conspire against him in sabotage. He all

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Speaker 1: goes on to say, I think his ceiling, I think

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Speaker 1: do you? What do you think of those comments about Shador,

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Speaker 3: I love Joe Thomas, I love Joe T. And I

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Speaker 3: little bit. And for me, I think it's more of

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Speaker 3: They're just really trying to start Joe Flacco right now

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Speaker 3: a being okay when Shardor did his last preseason game

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel like that was a good position to

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Speaker 3: they did not want him to dry that ball down

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Speaker 3: battling it out. In my mind, Chador is going to

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Speaker 3: be the better quarterback. Shador is stilling this higher and

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Speaker 3: what Joe Thomas is saying, but he's saying, there's no

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 3: They have an OG, they have Joe flaccoh somebody can

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Speaker 3: just try to settle the thing. Let the season go,

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Speaker 3: Let's get us some wins. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: He's been in the league now what eighteen years, so

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Speaker 3: he's more of a just vet. The same thing that

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Speaker 3: know what, I'm saying you need to just have a

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Speaker 2: You know, he's the long term deal. He's going to

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Speaker 2: be there for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I kind of agree with Joe, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see them going in and drafting a guy

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Speaker 4: But I don't I.

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Speaker 1: Don't see the conspiracy of actually drafting a guy anywhere

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Speaker 4: I had a question for you draft him at all.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he should have went that low.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I think he went, you know, that

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Speaker 3: So for sure I respect that though too, I think

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, you're the franchise.

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Speaker 3: They want you to act a certain way, you know

439
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Maybe treat them a certain type of way,

440
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you're gonna have the keys,

441
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna be the man.

442
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: So I think if you were to go back.

443
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: And do it, he would have probably did that a

444
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: little bit differently, you know what I'm saying, Just being

445
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 3: a little cocky, letting him know, like, yeah, I'm him.

446
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,239
Speaker 3: But at quarterback, you gotta kind of transform and just

447
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: be a little more.

448
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, they.

449
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: Gotta, they gotta, they gotta have an opportunity to really

450
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, see and and and get the the for sure. Yeah,

451
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: this is what I'm getting. It wasn't because you know,

452
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 1: you had this prolific receiver. You know, had horned too,

453
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, so it wasn't you know, it wasn't like, uh,

454
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have some good receivers over there.

455
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: So I I totally you know, understand it. And like

456
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: I said, at the same time, I understand you know,

457
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: how other people see it as being unfair because of

458
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, the comparison of you know with his father.

459
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 4: But uh, your your.

460
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: Boy, Travis Kelsey, you're Cleveland or he said that they

461
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: should give the people what they want. In terms of

462
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: Browns fans, shador start give the people what they want.

463
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: The world wants to see him go out there and

464
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: not only play, but have success.

465
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 4: At this point, guys are rooting for him.

466
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 1: This isn't anything against Dylan, this isn't anything against Joe.

467
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the excitement is there for Shadora to

468
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: go out there. He's going to put eyes on the screen.

469
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: He's going to bring people to the game. What do

470
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: you what do you think about Travis saying that.

471
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: Man, that boy Travis is speaking that good stuff right there.

472
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: Listen, this is what I think. This is what I

473
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: think Travis should do. Man, Travis can afford it now

474
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: or we'll be able to. I think what Travis should

475
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: do is go ahead, since he feels so strongly about this, Travis,

476
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: you should go and buy the Browns fans make the

477
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: decisions of who is going to play and who's going

478
00:22:59,359 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: to start.

479
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm not gonna lie.

480
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: I'm I mean, you know, I mean, no, no disrespect

481
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 3: to the Hasms. Love the Hasms to death, But if

482
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: they were up to sell. Selling to Travis because him

483
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: and Taylor got the bag enough to buy.

484
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: And I'm they're.

485
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: Chilling with my good man, Travis, the new owner of

486
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: the Plea.

487
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: It's like man, but for real, real though.

488
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: Travis is speaking the way that I feel like and

489
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 3: I know, like end of the day, they got Flacco

490
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: just to make sure everything's good. He's a veteran, he's

491
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: been the league for a long time. But get the

492
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: people what they want. He talking about, get me.

493
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 4: What I want. I want you.

494
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: I want you to you're talking to me. I want

495
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: your door.

496
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: Sanders out there doing for real, starting with the starting line,

497
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: the starting receivers, the starting saying.

498
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 4: Go ahead, put him out there.

499
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no, let him let him.

500
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: Do what he do.

501
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 4: I don't want it, don't don't work. Then you fall

502
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: back to Joe.

503
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, that's not what I Travis is

504
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: saying what I what I want to say, but I'm

505
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: not going to really say it. I really want Travis

506
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: is saying. That's what Trav said. Travis saying what That's

507
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 3: not what I'm saying. I feel Travis, though, because I

508
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't be mad at it, but I want it to

509
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: be Flacco just go in there, you know what I'm saying.

510
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: Hopefully does as best as he can. But as soon

511
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: as he starts losing, boom in there ready and I'm

512
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: not wishing on Flacco's downfall.

513
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: So that's how many games you gotta lose before before

514
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: Travis throw I'm gonna say Travis before Travis throat.

515
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: Uh, he gotta lose.

516
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: He gotta lose three of them jumps.

517
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: Three, three, three, three in a row is just three, period.

518
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: It depends on our record.

519
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: If it's two in a row and we're looking foggy

520
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: and then we lose another one three three in a

521
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 3: row for show, it's definitely time.

522
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: But he win a game, he bought some.

523
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: You lose.

524
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: He went too in a row, two in a row.

525
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: He went two in a row. Oh, he's chilling for

526
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: a little bit, Sha door, need to just start, you

527
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Making sure take notes watching he lose.

528
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: One though, work then he win one and lose one,

529
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: win one and lose one, win to.

530
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 4: Lose one, win one, lose one. Now he had he had,

531
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 4: he had three and two.

532
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: As long as he don't lose two in a row

533
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: and close to three in a row. He's solid, he's

534
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: square business because like that means we're we're in the mix.

535
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: We keeping it.

536
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: Five hundred, keeping it five hundred. Soon he gets below

537
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: five hundred, it's time.

538
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: Okay.

539
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: So so speaking of quarterbacks, let's go over here to

540
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: the Stillers man. I guess the Stellers sent a scout

541
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: to look at the South Carolina quarterback Sears. It says,

542
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: if things start off poorly, could you could this finally

543
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: be the season that the Stellers tank for a top

544
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Do you think that Stealers would

545
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: tank for a top quarterback in the NFL?

546
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: That sounds ridiculous.

547
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: Do you think coach Thomlins would come into one of

548
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: those team meetings in the morning talking about taking the

549
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: al like we're men, we have something to do, Like

550
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: this is our job. We don't get paid by the hour,

551
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? Like coach he not with that.

552
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: He gonna come in that jont motivating with speeches and everything,

553
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: like we're gonna go undefeated. It don't matter what they're

554
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: not even undefeated, We're gonna win this week. That's why

555
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: I like about coach t He's not looking too far ahead.

556
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: What we're gonna do is who we play, what is

557
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: our things. We're gonna work on our schedule. We're gonna

558
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: do Mondays, We're gonna do like line, We're gonna do

559
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: a red zone. We're gonna do certain things. We have

560
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: a schedule that we're gonna do and we're gonna do

561
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: it no matter who we play. You know what I'm saying.

562
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: What you mina say, the nameless gray Faces, it doesn't

563
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: matter who they play, they gonna have to come see us,

564
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So tanking for the Steelers

565
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: is crazy that somebody would even think about that because

566
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: we were with Duck Hodges, my good man, not knocking up.

567
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: We're trying to win.

568
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: We thought we were gonna win every game in the Duck,

569
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: the quarterback, every game we go out, never fought left.

570
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: We never felt like we.

571
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: Were inferior or anything like we about to bush all that.

572
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: Seriously, I never, I never, I would never think of

573
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: the Stellers tanking. And you know again, my biggest reason

574
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: is Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin is not going to tank

575
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: a season no matter what. He hasn't had a losing

576
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: season and what is it eighteen years. He's not going

577
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: to go out there and try and have a losing season.

578
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: And I know people say, you know what, man, it's

579
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: time for a change, It's time for this, it's time

580
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: for that. You know, he hasn't won a playoff game

581
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen. Yeah, you know, that's that's that's one

582
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: of the knocks. But how many coaches out there, you know,

583
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: can you say has the record he has has never

584
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: had a losing season, And to be quite honest with you,

585
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: I believe that's one of the reasons why he will

586
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: always keep a job in Pittsburgh. You know, rather he

587
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: wins a playoff game or not. If he doesn't have

588
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: a losing season, then you know he's he's going to

589
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: be there.

590
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 4: They're not going to get rid of him.

591
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: They're they're they're going to resigning. If you you know,

592
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: you look at the history of all coaches that is

593
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: in the position that he's in. None of them have

594
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: been fired, all of them have been rehired. And if

595
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: you do that today, in the hyper sensitive racial culture

596
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: that we have, things would explode. And I get it.

597
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: I totally get it for the people who are like, hey,

598
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: but the standard is the standard. Yeah, it's sort of

599
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: starting to sound like lip service because now it looks

600
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: like the standard is five hundred because we haven't won

601
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: a playoff.

602
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: Game since twenty sixteen.

603
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, you got you got six in one hand,

604
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: you got a half a dozen in the other. And

605
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, I understand routes. The issue is you can't

606
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: get rid of that. It's not you can't. You know,

607
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: you jump out of you know, the grass is always

608
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: green on the other side, and you think it's green inside. Yeah,

609
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: I think it's not really greener than that.

610
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: And if somebody were they were to let go coach

611
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: t he would be picked up the quickest of any

612
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: coach of all time. A lot of the other coaches would,

613
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: a lot of other organizations would love to.

614
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Have coach Tomlin as the head coach.

615
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: And especially the way that people speak about him, like

616
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: I know me, for instance, just playing from a bunch

617
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: of different coaches in Cleveland coming to Pittsburgh, Darius Slay,

618
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey, it's not just us.

619
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: It's like that's not normal.

620
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: The way that he just is able to interact with

621
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: his players, the way he's able to legitimately like have

622
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: real conversations with you, He's not.

623
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: I will say this, I understand where you're coming from

624
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: with that, and I had that.

625
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: I had that relationship.

626
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: Where where my relationship with Tomlin broke down was towards

627
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: the end, you know, the last last year. And he

628
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: always says, as a tough question, I'll give you a

629
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: tough answer. Well, I was asking the tough cash stuff.

630
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, I was asking the tough questions, but I

631
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: wasn't getting the tough answers. I was getting the answers that,

632
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, he thought would appease me. To be quite

633
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm like, yo, you know I need

634
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: to play. I need to do this, I need to

635
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: do that. Like okay, yeah, we we got you know,

636
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: we got plans, we're going to we're going to do something,

637
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: and you know, nothing came to it. And what it

638
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: really came down to is, I'm like, yo, if you

639
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: just sitting me here to have me as a backup

640
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: just in case one of your young guys go down

641
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: and you can put me in there, I understand that,

642
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: but say that, say that right, say that to my face.

643
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: I could deal with it better then you.

644
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: Sitting here and feeding me a whole crock of stuff

645
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: that does not make sense, you know, to the point

646
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: of where we're going. I think it was Shuston or something,

647
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: can't remember, but it was before Christmas, and I'm like, yo,

648
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: I know you're not going to dress me. I know

649
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: you're not going to play me. Why don't you just

650
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: let me stay at home? This is twenty seventeen, right,

651
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: so why don't you just let me stay at home

652
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: for this game? And that way I could spend Christmas,

653
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, with my family whatever. No, no, no, I

654
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: can't do that. No, No, we're going. You know we're going.

655
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: We might need you, okay, and then immediately leave. It

656
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: was that Thursday or Friday. He released me, like, that's

657
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: that's not something you just did on the drop of

658
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: a hat. You know what I'm saying. That was in

659
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: the works, as he said, a numbers you know thing

660
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. No, you saw, here's the

661
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: crazy part. I said. Week one we played Cleveland. We

662
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: played y'all, and I said, hey, I see what you

663
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: want to do. You want to you want to play

664
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: your young guys. I totally understand that phase me out.

665
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: You got younger guys. I don't feel they're better than

666
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: me right now, but and time, yes, they will be.

667
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: So why don't y'all just release me and let me

668
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: go play my you know year out somewhere else. No, no, no, no,

669
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: we got a plan for you. No, you don't have

670
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: a plan, man, And that's the same thing you kept

671
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: feeding me. So I got to the point where, like,

672
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just discroung I'm trying to do

673
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: anything to get out of here, Like I'm trying to

674
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: make y'all release me, dude, Like I'm I'm I'm neb

675
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing a little bit of every I'm saying my

676
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: back hurt. I'm telling them any and everything, like you

677
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: just release me.

678
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: You are funny because you saying this is bringing it back.

679
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: That was my when I first signed was twenty seventeen,

680
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: when it was the when you was like kind of

681
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: like that was the year. You know what I'm saying,

682
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: when they had it was a TJ and Bud. You know,

683
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: I said, you was getting the time and then you

684
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: was coming into the means. I'm like, oh yeah, just

685
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: thugging it. Debo, like you saying released, I said, you know, yeah,

686
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember I was there.

687
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: I said oh yeah, that's Debo for real. But that's

688
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: the thing that ain't that ain't even a character.

689
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: I know Debo, but I'm just saying that was my

690
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: first time over there.

691
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: You wasn't being bole was like, yeah, I could just

692
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: tell you wasn't on that, but it was like it

693
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: was You've been there so long, did so much. That's

694
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: when the business kind of really hit to where you

695
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: have a personal relationship with coach Thomlin, like you feel

696
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm asking you

697
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: the hard question. You should be able to give me

698
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: our answers. We're grown, We're maturing this man, like, yes,

699
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: I can understand no question, but tell me something so

700
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: no for shure I can. I can see that one

701
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: hundred thousand percent. And like literally on my way out

702
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: of the door too. In Pittsburgh, we was you have

703
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: those conversations until they get a little bit too difficult

704
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: for them to have, and then that's when the business

705
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: side clicks and it's like.

706
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Is dang it really is still a business.

707
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: We cool as a mug, were super chill, but dang,

708
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: I still got chopped and didn't even know you know

709
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It gets to that, because at the

710
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: end of the day, it is love. Once you sign

711
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: that contract. Now we're gonna make this family a family

712
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: because we're gonna be here. We gotta be here. You

713
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm working with you because I'm

714
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: gonna do my job to make sure myself bloos good.

715
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: You're gonna coach me up. And now we got a relationship.

716
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: But soon as somebody else coming in contracted the acting

717
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 3: Kevin Coolberg get to talking to him, and he like this, ooh,

718
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 3: so we're gonna have to let buddy go. That's their conversation.

719
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: Don't have nothing to do with our relationship. My kids

720
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: that you see, you know what I'm saying, Like they

721
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: like this.

722
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: Where mine really fell apart is I believe it was

723
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: either Tennessee or Indie. I don't practice all week. He's saying,

724
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: all right, you're going to get reps, gonna rotate you

725
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: in whatever whatever. Right I get to the game. When

726
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: I get to the game, Joe, I am a no dress.

727
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: I have no uniform in my locker. I am a

728
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: game day scratch and I ain't been told a word

729
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: till I walk in and see it. I told him, right,

730
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: then and there, I said, listen, if I ain't playing,

731
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: I ain't staying.

732
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: And I left and went home.

733
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: Yes you did.

734
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: That's when I started trying to do everything I could

735
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: to get out of there.

736
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: Now now are you only.

737
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: Now you just just not.

738
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Even talking to me? Yeah, and telling me anything? You

739
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: just blatantly lying out.

740
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: You coming too the game debo and your pads aren't

741
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: in your locker and it's a sweatsuit in the joint.

742
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: I'm oh, yeah, you you fed you you you have

743
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: every right to be fed, especially when you're talking to him.

744
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: You're asking these questions when they like, just let me

745
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: know where I'm at, and now I'll let you know

746
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: where you're staying. If you want to know, I tell you.

747
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: And then you're not telling me. That's yeah, that's great,

748
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: that's great. I'm sorry that don't happen like that, brother,

749
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: But you know how that But you know, yes, I snapped,

750
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: and that's what you're like, Oh, okay, so I'm right.

751
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: You got to business business, you know what I'm saying.

752
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: You thought that personal relationship you had what's gonna get

753
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: you honesty, No, it's gonna get you what he needs

754
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: to tell you to keep his business, keep his position, to.

755
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 4: Keep what he needs going so he can keep his

756
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: job at this business.

757
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So for sure, you know,

758
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: uh speaking of the Stellers, like we got Anon Rodgers

759
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: over there, how far how far you think we're gonna

760
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: get with Rogers?

761
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: I lie to you, not, man, I'm if he can

762
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 2: stay healthy.

763
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is one of the best throwers of the

764
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: ball that I've seen spiral always on point. I think

765
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: him being there with Coach T like like you said,

766
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: the Stiller's defense, it's always been amazing. And when we've

767
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: had several different quarterbacks, Office has been able to get there.

768
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: Just don't mess it up. Aaron Rodgers is in the

769
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: quarterback that there's a lot of interceptions. He's not going

770
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: to be putting the ball, turning it over, putting the

771
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: defense in bad positions. So I think if he could

772
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: just stay upright, stay healthy, and his ball placement is amazing,

773
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: just being him and Coach T working together on a plan,

774
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: like you don't gotta throw for five thousand, but you

775
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: could throw for twenty five tudies and like two interceptions

776
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: and we could be balling, like as long as the

777
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: defense isn't set back in a terrible position. I think

778
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: they'd be good to go. So him with Coach T,

779
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be solid. I just hope they

780
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: start losing. How do you think it goes? If they

781
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: start losing, Man, if they start losing, it's gonna go

782
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: the same way. Man, you know how it is. It's

783
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: one week at a time. I think they're gonna be

784
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: able to try. They're gonna just try to figure it out,

785
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: figure out what's going on the offensive side.

786
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: I just hope that you think that relationship stays the same,

787
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: do you think or does it dissipate like you were.

788
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: Talking about here, I think that I think that I

789
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 3: think that Coach T may have a different relationship with

790
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks, you know what I'm saying, because that's like

791
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: him and him a big ben. I think that their

792
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: relationship was pretty pretty solid, you know what I'm saying.

793
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: And with the quarterback position, with Aaron's knowledge, I think

794
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 3: him maybe.

795
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: Go Depo, stop making your face like that. Stop making

796
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: face like that.

797
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 4: From what I assume, you assume what you assuming, go ahead.

798
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying from my from my eyes, they

799
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: might not have got along too. Well, they got along

800
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: my eyes like they got along, And I think that

801
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: with a smart quarterback like that, with Aaron and his knowledge,

802
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be able to try to figure

803
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: something out.

804
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: Just in my eyes.

805
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: What do you think, Debo, You was there longer than me. I,

806
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: like I said, I'll say again, I think if things

807
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: go well, they go well, that's why it's a one

808
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: year deal. If they go well, it's possibility for being

809
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, something else. But if they don't, you know,

810
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: our tithes is cut and we go, you know the

811
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: way we go.

812
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: I think it gets super ugly if they get.

813
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: To a point to where it's looking like it's going

814
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: to be thomas first losing season, because now that puts

815
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: him in a position he's never been in, and it

816
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: opens up the gate to a lot of other decisions

817
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: that could be made, you know, by the organization. No,

818
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: for sure, I think Rogers, to be honest with you,

819
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the player that he used to be.

820
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: I think now it's to the point where those balls

821
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: that he would zip out there and it's just a

822
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: fingertip away and you couldn't get to it. Now guys

823
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: are getting a hand on that ball. Some guys are

824
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: picking that ball. The placement is not exactly perfect like

825
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: it was. You know, it's three inches off, three inches off,

826
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: the difference somebody touching the ball, picking the ball in

827
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: the ball, getting into the receiver's hands. I don't know,

828
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: if you know, he's come to the realization that, you know,

829
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: it's a little something, a little different. Maybe he has

830
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: to adjust and he just hasn't adjusted to it yet.

831
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: But you know, that's the big difference that I see.

832
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: You know, especially like when you know, we played him

833
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, it's like, you know, you got

834
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: you got RC He's right there and it's you know, fingertip, yeah,

835
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: and he just misses it, and you know it's it's

836
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: a tuddy. So those those plays and those throws that

837
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, he had his whole career, I think over

838
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: the last.

839
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 4: Year or two, he doesn't.

840
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, he just doesn't have those perfect, you know,

841
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: throws anymore.

842
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: And you know that.

843
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference that you know, we're seeing

844
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: now in the last couple of years.

845
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: No, for sure, I'm rooting for him because Aaron Rodgers

846
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: been one of my favorite quarterbacks for a long time.

847
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: And I'll do good for his rooting for Oh go

848
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: throw out some discount double checks.

849
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: Man. I think if you bring that back in like

850
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: you might get back sweet.

851
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh hold on, hold on, we got breaking news. Brother

852
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: still is running back. Jaalen Warren m headed into the

853
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: last year of his deal, just signed a two year

854
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: deal extension that keeps him contractually tied to the Pittsburgh

855
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: Stillers through two twenty twenty seven.

856
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 4: Do you like this move? I love this move. I

857
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: was gonna say the same.

858
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: Thing because Jalen Warren he hits that hole like he cares.

859
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: He's hits it.

860
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: He's going to get north and south, he's going to

861
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: catch the ball out of the backfield, he's going to block,

862
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: and he looks like he just he just cares.

863
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: To me.

864
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: When I see him run, I see his passion. I

865
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: see him being a being a very very good asset

866
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: to the team. So that's why I think they didn't

867
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: care as much. Not never knocking Nausey love nause but

868
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: it wasn't as expensive, and he was hitting that hole

869
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: very hard, so then being able to keep him, I

870
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: think that's a great move for the Stillers. I don't

871
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: think they probably had to pay my man too much.

872
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: But he's worth every penny or whatever they signed up

873
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: for because he's he's he's he deserves backpay. He's getting

874
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: a little back pay in this contract and then this

875
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: joint right now because he's solid player. I think he's

876
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: a good dude, and I think he's going to be

877
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: solid for the stillers for show.

878
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. You know, I think, you know,

879
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: having him there, you know, gives you a better opportunity

880
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: to have a running game, which will hopefully help take

881
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: some of that you know, pressure off off of Rogers

882
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: and you know, stop you know, allowing the d line

883
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: to just pin their ears back in certain situations, keep

884
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: the game close. You know, when you got the when

885
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: you have you know, a to a two headed monster

886
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: so to speak. And I wouldn't even call it a monster.

887
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: You have a two headed attack and you have a

888
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: running game that can complement your passing game.

889
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's a lot harder to zero in.

890
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: He is a you know, he's a good running back.

891
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Like you said, North and South. You know, he's going

892
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: to put his head down and you know, if it's

893
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: nothing but three four yards in a cloud of dust,

894
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: that's all you need to, you know, change moving. So

895
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: I definitely, you know, like the move. I'm you know,

896
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all in for it.

897
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: I like that. You're a Warren Jayla Warren fan. We

898
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: feel the same way that dude is.

899
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: He just gets after it, bro, Yo, man, why just

900
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: do it on Chad Talk? Why this dude chat on

901
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: live talking about he gonna beat my ayes?

902
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 4: Bro?

903
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: No, he not ojo o Joe. That's my good man too.

904
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Oho, that's my good man. I don't know

905
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: y'all ain't going nobody.

906
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: I sent you the word. Man.

907
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be I'm trying to be a I'm

908
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: trying to live my life right, be peaceful. But what

909
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: he's doing is see he making me go back into

910
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: the other side. No, I'm gonna bust his ass, bro,

911
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm taking to where he can't see out both eyes

912
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: one of his eyes. Damn there, he ain't gonna be

913
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: able to see out to neither one of them.

914
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: Come on, Devo, see relaxed, Debo. We got chick.

915
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get on it. I'm gonna talk to I'm

916
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: gonna talk too. We're gonna talk. We all gonna we

917
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: all gonna just chill. You want to listen. I'm gonna

918
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: talk to him with these hands in his.

919
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: Feet and the feet.

920
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: And the feet.

921
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: It's May style, man, it ain't it ain't nothing stopped,

922
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: you know what. Let me stop that. Oh yeah, that's

923
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I ain't gonna urt him too bad. No, man,

924
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: that's my great man. Come on, that's a good dude

925
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: right there. Hurt him too bad. I'm just go doing nothing.

926
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: I'll just put him to sleep. I'm just talking out.

927
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: How about that?

928
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 4: All right?

929
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Just let him tap quick tap.

930
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: I can't. I don't even know if I can let him. Okay,

931
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 4: if he tapped in.

932
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: Quick tap, soon as you get on, I'm out.

933
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: Nah nah, I gotta make it like I ain't feel

934
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 1: the tap. Though he got he got at least fall

935
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: out for a little bit. You know what I'm saying.

936
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tap you for Who are you taking me?

937
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: Or Chad?

938
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: We gotta get this. We got we're getting this set up.

939
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: So we're talking about.

940
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: Listen, if we're talking m m A, brother, we're taking

941
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 3: mm A. I'm taking you de bo because I'm telling you,

942
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: I mean, how you gonna I'm just don't want you to.

943
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: You grab hold of Chad. You know what I'm saying, Like,

944
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: I don't know how it's gonna get out.

945
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: He ain't, he ain't.

946
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: And see, that's what I'm gonna do, because I'm a

947
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: nice person. You just grab a hold of Just squeeze.

948
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I'm just gonna bear hugging me till

949
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: he tapped.

950
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

951
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: Just break a rib, you know, Just squeeze him so

952
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: tight until.

953
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: It's rib chill chill, do you you know?

954
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: Chill?

955
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: Debo's better than damaging you know, his vision permanently.

956
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: But let's see it.

957
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: Look, you can heal from that.

958
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: Let's get off my good man, Chad, and get to

959
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 3: some more takes. You out here trying to fight?

960
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 4: Listen, man, I ain't trying to fight here on life

961
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 4: talking about what you gonna do to me? What you

962
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 4: want me to do? Man?

963
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you gotta respond.

964
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: I gotta respond. What else am I supposed to do?

965
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: Not respond? That's my bad, listen, man. So the Giants

966
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: got some issues over there, right that even really an issue?

967
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: You know, they got some quarterback possibility, uh, things going on.

968
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: The Giants have a demanding no open season schedule. It

969
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: looks like playing the Commander's Cowboys, Chiefs and Chargers over

970
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: the first four weeks of twenty twenty five. Buddy, I've

971
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: let it reports that Russ must engineer wins against those

972
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: contenders to prevent head coach from benching him for the

973
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: rookie Dark. It sounds off of me to two dollars

974
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: nineteen when the plan was for Eli Manning to start

975
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: with Jones on the bench, and then Jones took over

976
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: aftern oh two start.

977
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: Do you like how Jackson Dark played this preseason? I do?

978
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: Do you like enough to just be like going here

979
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: and don't give Russell shot at all?

980
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: No, they're doing the same thing that the Browns are

981
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: doing with Joe Flacco.

982
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: To Russell Wilson, They're literally putting them out there.

983
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: If you start losing, dark Tonyard, if you win, you

984
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: can hold them all for a little bit longer them dudes, bro.

985
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson contract one year, eleven point three million, Joe

986
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: Flacco's contract one year for four million, up to up

987
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: to thirteen if he plays.

988
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: So both of them.

989
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: Dudes got team friendly contracts. The coaches is like this,

990
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: we got these bets out there here fourteen year eighteen,

991
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: with these rookies behind them, they're gonna look and see

992
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: what's going on.

993
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: They might not get their head beating off.

994
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 3: The beginning of the season, watch and learn, see because

995
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: it's about to be you out there to take notes,

996
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So as long as the

997
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: bets can hold it off, they're gonna be out there

998
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: to play. Russell same thing, he goes, but he got

999
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: a schedule on his head. He might go, he might,

1000
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: They might get hit fox shots.

1001
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So what happens if Russ get out there rush

1002
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: doers things? Somehow miraculously he falls back into the form

1003
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: he had in Seattle and he's doing the thing and he.

1004
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: Done went Pro Bowl, All Pro. What happens then next year?

1005
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 3: Next year they might give him another one year jont

1006
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: maybe two.

1007
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 4: But with Rown, did they get darting? Right?

1008
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: They got dart in the first round, But like Patrick.

1009
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: Don't get a first round or to see him around.

1010
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: For Patrick Mahomes. Like Patrick Homes, Patrick Mahomes didn't play.

1011
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes didn't play. Aaron Rodgers didn't play.

1012
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: These dudes chill and as soon as they got in

1013
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: they took off. You know what I'm saying.

1014
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 3: If I think if Patrick Mahomes would have got in

1015
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: before Alex Smith was ready to move, then he might

1016
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: have been looking crazy.

1017
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1018
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 4: If it's a learning curve.

1019
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: It's a little curve, little curve. So like I think

1020
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: the longer, the.

1021
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: Big learning curve.

1022
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: I think for quarterbacks it's even it's even bigger, you know,

1023
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: I mean you go back to I mean, well, Ben

1024
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: ended up starting I believe his first year after.

1025
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: Uh I think it might have been an injury or

1026
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: what you know what. Ben had been had a running

1027
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: game in all the game and.

1028
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: The defense y'all wass knock the people's heads off, and

1029
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 3: they had a big line and y'all was toting that joint.

1030
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: So Ben got the opportunity, I believe, to have that

1031
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: that learning curve, but actually being there and do it

1032
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: through the process of the first you know, a couple

1033
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: of years, you know where they'd run the ball, run

1034
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: the ball, hit you with a you know, hitch with

1035
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: a deep pass or run run pass here, run run

1036
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: pass here. However it was which took you know a

1037
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of pressure off him, especially as

1038
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: being a young quarterback sitting out there trying to read

1039
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, defenses, you know, complicated defenses at that and

1040
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, that opportunity I think helped him, you know,

1041
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: grow even faster. I think, you know, even to the

1042
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: point of you know, where he would you know, especially

1043
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: when he was real young, he scrambled around, and I

1044
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: think like some of that may have been you know,

1045
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: just trying to get to the read and time just

1046
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: maybe couldn't get to the reading time. And now you

1047
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: know the pressure is coming, so now he scrambles. And

1048
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: what's the first thing that happens when the quarterbacks starts scrambling?

1049
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: Your defense breaks down, you know, trying to get to

1050
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: whoever's near you. And that's great, you know when you're

1051
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback, because now it's just spot and throw, you know,

1052
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: spot the guy you want to hit and throw it

1053
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: to him. So I think that, you know, that was

1054
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: something that was beneficial to him, you know, being a

1055
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: young quarterback, having that running game, having that office in line,

1056
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: having that defense that you know what's going to make

1057
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: sure that you got opportunities to be able to go

1058
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: out there and just take it, take your time, you know,

1059
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: getting into the NFL system and then having a defense

1060
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: that if you did make a mistake, you know they

1061
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: were there to back you up and put out the fire.

1062
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: Yep, you ain't feel like they putting the whole everything

1063
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: on them.

1064
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: It's not all depending on you. We're gonna be good regardless.

1065
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 3: Just don't go out here and mess it all up,

1066
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, just be consistent, do

1067
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: your part, do your one eleventh, and we're gonna be good.

1068
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: I think that's really good for rookies not having to

1069
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: have too much on their head to come in there

1070
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: and like, oh no, I got to change the franchise. No,

1071
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: you need to come out here, make sure you know

1072
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: the reason, know what you're doing, know where everybody's job is,

1073
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna be able to get into it.

1074
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Hand the ball, great running back, you got you know

1075
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Behind this big line.

1076
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: So at what point do you think they put in

1077
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: dark and where is that?

1078
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1079
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: I'm I think it's the same thing, just depending on

1080
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: how he starts off the season, and I think that

1081
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: I think after the first after Russell Wilson going to at.

1082
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: Two and two like like like like Jones, it goes

1083
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: on to what happens.

1084
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: He goes on to they talking that he might he's

1085
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: he goes on to he might start the third game,

1086
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: he may get pulled.

1087
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: So you say, he go on to that it's possibly

1088
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: he gets a chance in the third game. Yeah, having

1089
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: the rook ready to go ahead and step on me.

1090
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: He might get pulled that game, won't make it to

1091
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: the don't. I don't know if he make it to

1092
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: the fourth, if they going three. Because the way Dart

1093
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: was looking in the preseason, he looked, Yeah, he looked

1094
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: like a man.

1095
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: This is gonna be keep losing like he was.

1096
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: Another thing I hate about the preseason, man, is that

1097
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: you don't really get to see the players that you're

1098
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: going to get to see in the regular season. So

1099
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: it may make some guys look better than what they are.

1100
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: You're not actually going against the talent that you would

1101
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: be going against because you know, like you said, like

1102
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: I said, rather fifty of those guys that just got

1103
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: put in there aren't going to make it. So you

1104
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: know that's again another six and one hand half a dozen.

1105
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: Then the other said, yeah, but do you think that

1106
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work here and Rush gets the bench,

1107
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: do you think this is the last stop for him?

1108
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: Do you think that's man?

1109
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: No quarterbacks have thirteen thousand lives, and I know for

1110
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 3: show somebody have him as a backup somewhere, like, Yeah,

1111
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: I think he's a good dude.

1112
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. The circus.

1113
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: They they might think Russell has a little bit of

1114
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: stuff going on with him, But in my opinion, I

1115
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: think he'd be able to stay in the league a

1116
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 3: couple more years for sure, if not trying to fight

1117
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 3: for a starting You.

1118
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 4: Say the circus, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta elaborate

1119
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 4: on that.

1120
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: When I say the circus, they just the way Russell

1121
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: would go, go h whatever the team it is, go

1122
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: like just as little that stuff and then some just

1123
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: from Seattle.

1124
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: I don't he's a good dude.

1125
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: I like that.

1126
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 3: Try to say he's a little like corny and then

1127
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: bringing in Sierra like there's more than just.

1128
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a it's a little bit

1129
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: of an entourage to him too.

1130
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: And I don't mean, I don't I don't mean to

1131
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: say circus. I don't think it's a circus. I love Sierra,

1132
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: I love nothing.

1133
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: But nice to me.

1134
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: But the way that people always try to make other

1135
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: people's situations seem like, oh, we got so much going on.

1136
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: NFL owners, they may not want to have time for

1137
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: if your quarterback is not balling like a fifty million

1138
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: dollars quarterback, they might think that that's a lot that

1139
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: comes with him. So I'm not trying to say that

1140
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: that's me personally. I'm just trying to say, how the

1141
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 3: way you know what I'm saying, leave.

1142
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, just from what I've seen and

1143
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: what I heard, I think I think to any organization,

1144
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, depending on not any organizations, depending on where

1145
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: you're at, I don't think New York it would.

1146
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: It would be such.

1147
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: A thing, I think, and they can handle it smaller, Yeah,

1148
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: I think it's smaller less smaller cities. It was the

1149
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: smaller market or of a distraction, you know, especially you

1150
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: know with the with the entourage that you know comes

1151
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: along with it, and uh, the players, you know, you know,

1152
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: we in Pittsburgh, you know, don't nobody go around with

1153
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, bodyguards or anything like that. Everybody you know

1154
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: goes where they need to go by themselves. So but

1155
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: for me, I think it would be his last stop.

1156
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: It's New York. It's it's the Giants, bro, I mean,

1157
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: where where else you go go from there?

1158
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: If you it's badly not to like just if he

1159
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 3: wants to stay in the league, you know what I'm saying.

1160
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: You know how you got those guys.

1161
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: Man, At the end of the day, back up quarterbacks

1162
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: is probably one of the easiest positions to have in

1163
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: the league if you go back.

1164
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: Do he want to do he want to be a

1165
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: backup quarterback?

1166
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Making you know, league minimum and you know it's a

1167
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: lot that goes on with you having all that stuff

1168
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: around you. Is that even you know, worth it at

1169
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: that point?

1170
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1171
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: For sure, I don't think it would be worth it

1172
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: to Russ, But you never know, like if he wants

1173
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: to still be involved in the game, like this is

1174
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: what he's doing. But at the same time, like you said,

1175
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 3: he got a lot of stuff going on off the field,

1176
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: so he may not like eleven eleven million a year

1177
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: right now to him is he's he got dub so

1178
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: he's not really worried, may not be worried about the

1179
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: bread as much. But I'm like, for the love of

1180
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: the game, if you want to go give yourself a

1181
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: shot to try to continue. You're right, I don't know

1182
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: who many teams maybe give him that starting opportunity. If

1183
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: he's okay with the backup role, then be a situation

1184
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: he might just got to be like, you know what,

1185
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: like my time is up or like you got gracefully

1186
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 3: by the league gonna let you know when your time

1187
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: is up when you stop getting you know, like, oh,

1188
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 3: ain't nobody hitting.

1189
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so I guess it's my time to go ahead

1190
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: and go.

1191
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll agree with you on that that.

1192
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: I think it's going to come down to him going

1193
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: somewhere and them saying, Okay, you're going to be the starter.

1194
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think that's going to happen.

1195
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: Him going somewhere and being okay with saying okay, I'm

1196
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: going to be the backup to blah blah blah. You know,

1197
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: it gives you a you know, a person that has

1198
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: played in this game for a while understands things too,

1199
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, and can come in and give you that

1200
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: that that fill in when you would need it. But

1201
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: is he willing to do that? That's going to be

1202
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: the big thing that is going to be yet to

1203
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: be seen.

1204
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: I would say far as him being corny, man, he

1205
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 4: ain't corny, dude.

1206
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he's corny either, bro.

1207
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: I think.

1208
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: He's a very He's him, dude, and it's not. It's

1209
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: not corny is being fake to me? That's him.

1210
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: He's not.

1211
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, it's just totally him. I meant the dude

1212
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: sat down with him, you know. Eight man, I'm sitting

1213
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: there and I'm looking and I'm talking to him and

1214
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're there for a few hours, and

1215
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, this is really him, Like this is

1216
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: really the guy he is. It's the dude you see

1217
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: you know on on on on on TV. You know,

1218
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: you know that's him. That's authentically him.

1219
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: It's not.

1220
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, some people may call it corny, but it's

1221
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: only corny if you're doing it and then it ain't you.

1222
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: But that's that's that's him. Man. It was. It was, Yeah,

1223
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 4: it was. I ain't gonna lie, man.

1224
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: It kind of surprised me to see and I'm like,

1225
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm about to see, you know, the real him, you

1226
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1227
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: No, I had never met him. I'm like, all right,

1228
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: I'm about to.

1229
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: See him behind closed doors with you know, what ain't

1230
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: really in front of the cameras. I'm sitting there and

1231
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, that's really him, man, genuine bro, It's genuine, genius,

1232
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: super super chill dude.

1233
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: And that's like you said to you said, Corny is

1234
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: somebody pretending to be something they not?

1235
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: That's not Russ No Rush, Yeah, that's authentical for him,

1236
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: man for sure.

1237
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, hold on, man? So who else we got going?

1238
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: The Cowboys?

1239
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: The Cowboys we got uh, we got my guy right here, Lane.

1240
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: That boy got four year, ninety two million extension, including

1241
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: fifty million guaranteed you will average twenty three million, makes

1242
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: him the sixth highest paid corner in the league.

1243
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 4: How you think? Never mind, I ain't gonna get messed.

1244
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: I go ask you how you think, Michael Philip about that?

1245
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: No? Man, No, what do you think?

1246
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: Hey?

1247
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: What do you think of What do you think of

1248
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: the deal? Though?

1249
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1250
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: Man, I think that's a great deal. He went and

1251
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: got twenty three year, six highest paid cornerback. I think

1252
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: from that year when he went a Pro Pro Bowl,

1253
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: he had like nine picks, a couple of picks six

1254
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: in a row.

1255
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 4: I think he had like five that season or something.

1256
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: It was five that season, bro, so yeah, he stepped

1257
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: on it. And then last year he think he got injured,

1258
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: so he missed ten games. But he, like you said,

1259
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 3: back pay, he wasn't a high pick and now he's

1260
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: able to get that bag and now him opposite of

1261
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: a Diggs. I think they should be able to kind

1262
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 3: of lock down that secondary a little bit more man

1263
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: to just get be consistent, get some picks, man, keep

1264
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: the big up in front of him.

1265
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and explain to the people back pay.

1266
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: So when we say back pay, back pay means I

1267
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: played my first say three or four years, four years, okay,

1268
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: and I'm on a rookie deal, that rookie deal if

1269
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm good, or that rookie deal if you play above.

1270
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: It means that those years that you played, you played

1271
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: at the level of say, top five guy in the league.

1272
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Those top five guys in the league make a certain

1273
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: amount of money. That's certain that that certain amount of

1274
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: money over those three years average out to something.

1275
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 4: So when it comes time for the deal.

1276
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: They won't backpay whatch you should get your back pay

1277
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: because you played for two million dollars a year or

1278
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: three million dollars a year or when you played at

1279
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: the level for a guy that should be making twenty

1280
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. So as soon as I get

1281
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: to that deal, I'm gonna need forty sixty million dollars

1282
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: of back pay, which should be guaranteed, plus what you

1283
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: see my future being another.

1284
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 4: Twenty or so.

1285
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: And that's where we at with a nice little four year,

1286
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: ninety two million dollar contract extension.

1287
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: That's what we talked about when we.

1288
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: Say back pay, so I could break down a contract

1289
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: for you for the backpay debo, and that is the

1290
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons contract, And that's exactly why we get to

1291
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: this back pay.

1292
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons signed four years.

1293
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: Seventeen million dollars is fully guaranteed in his rookie contract.

1294
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: That good Man was making four point four million dollars

1295
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: a year while he was sacking the quarterback ten to

1296
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: fifteen times a year, twelve plus each season, twelve plus

1297
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: each season. By the same time, we got TJ. White

1298
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett making twenty five million dollars a year, and

1299
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: then they read up this is their second contract that

1300
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: they hit the A four where so Miles hit him again,

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: hit him for five years, one twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Then hit him again for a four years one sixty. MICHAEH.

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: Parsons is coming off of making four point four million

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01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: dollars in his first rookie deal in four hundred dollars

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 3: a year, so ten point four rookie deal, got a

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01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 3: nice little signing on nine nine million, then one point

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01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 3: four the next year after taxes, my man touched seven

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01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars year three two point two, after tax

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 3: man touched one point three million dollars. Year full two

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 3: point nine, he's touching one point six one point seven million.

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01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: So he's sitting here looking around at miles making twenty five.

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01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: Then he reads up for forty. He needs his pay.

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: This first contract is your back pay, and it's your

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01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: biggest contract, the one where no matter what happens, I'm

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: going to be able to provide, be good. This is

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01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: when you start making generational that first contract that's seventeen million.

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: I understand everybody's like, oh, the generational web, but you

1318
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: understand when you're looking at another man making the same

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01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: playing the same position, doing the same thing as you,

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Speaker 3: that's making twenty five million dollars a year to forty

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01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: million dollars a year, and you making four it just

1322
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 3: baffles you. So you have to get to your bag

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 3: initially first for back pay and front pay, and then.

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Speaker 1: I think what a lot of people don't understand is

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01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: the the lack of financial education that we as players

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01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: didn't have.

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01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 4: I was one of them.

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, my first my first year, I saved up

1329
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot because I was practice squad.

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Speaker 2: You know that that was that.

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01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: But when I got my first deal that was you know,

1332
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: like five million, like three or four years five million.

1333
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: At the end of that deal, dude, I had about

1334
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand in the bank.

1335
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 4: I had a house and a car.

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: I was spending it as fast as I was getting

1337
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: it because I wasn't even counting it. Yeah, and I

1338
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: didn't you know, I didn't have that that understanding that like, yo,

1339
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: this could be over with and it could all end

1340
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. You're like, oh, my next check is

1341
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: gonna be this, I'm gonna be good.

1342
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: You're not.

1343
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: You're not looking, you know, further into the future. That's why,

1344
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: when you know I got my big deal, all I

1345
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: did was, you know, I get money, I invested. I

1346
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: get money I invested. You know, they say you getn't

1347
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: spend it.

1348
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 4: Now I was. I was investing it because.

1349
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: I had then got old enough to understand and see that,

1350
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: you know what, I got to be able to save

1351
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing for me to happen for me, dude,

1352
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, when I got my second

1353
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: deal is I had my son James, and I was like,

1354
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: oh shit, I got to take care of somebody else.

1355
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: I got to make sure that you know, he's taking

1356
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: care of that, he has something when the time comes

1357
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: that I'm no longer here. And you know, then I

1358
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: backed that up with Henry and I'm like, WHOA, Like,

1359
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: I can't you know, God forbid I leave this world earlier.

1360
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 4: I at least got to leave them something.

1361
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean, no matter when you leave, they go be hurt,

1362
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: but you know it's it's gonna help a little more

1363
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: if they have something to lean.

1364
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 4: On, you know, A thousand percent. Yeah.

1365
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: So that was what, really, you know, got me to

1366
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: where I was like, yo, I can't I can't keep

1367
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: doing what you know.

1368
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 4: What I'm doing.

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01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: No for sure, because bro, at the end of the day,

1370
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 3: they didn't teach that in school, in high school. They

1371
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: didn't teach you about money in middle school, high school,

1372
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: when you went to college, so you go from making

1373
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: really nothing to now you really getting checks and at

1374
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the taxes, all of that

1375
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 3: stuff is a real thing. People see your five million,

1376
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 3: You didn't touch five million dollars and it was in

1377
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 3: five years, so you busting that down. You touched two

1378
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 3: and a half. And then you have to live your

1379
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: damn self and people think you got fat.

1380
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: And you're helping, you know, you help, you're helping, you

1381
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: helping this, you're doing all that because you know you're

1382
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: not really you're not count you're not counting it. I'm

1383
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: trying to get people to understand that guys aren't counting this.

1384
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: They're not, especially when you first get in there.

1385
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 3: You know, when you first get in there, you're going

1386
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: to play. You think you're gonna play forever. You're never

1387
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: gonna be in the league.

1388
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: So that.

1389
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: Three thousand dollars for my signing bonus.

1390
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: And you couldn't tell me ship.

1391
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 4: Bro.

1392
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: You thought that was three hundred million.

1393
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 4: Bron You didn't tell me nothing, man.

1394
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just just that that's the part too

1395
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: with us being able to stay in the league. So

1396
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 3: that first contract and then some people they get cut

1397
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: So that's the part where that how did they go broke?

1398
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 3: I could show you easily, like it's not that difficult,

1399
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: and then you think that you know they could last forever.

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01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

1401
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 3: You can't manage your little two hundred three hundred fo

1402
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: hundred dollars. You're not gonna be able to manage a

1403
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: lot more money three period. You're gonna be able to move,

1404
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 3: You're gonna start doing things that you think that it

1405
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: is cool and sweet and all that. So just being

1406
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: able to get financially literally and then being able to

1407
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: do that if you did spend that at the beginning.

1408
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: Now they know to teach to all and they requirement.

1409
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: And the part is too you can't knock kids also

1410
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 3: because if you never had it you want to, you

1411
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: can't tell them they can't do nothing. You're gonna be

1412
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: able to have a budge. You're gonna be able to

1413
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 3: spend something.

1414
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: I know you threw away plenty of money on cars

1415
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: and everything else.

1416
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: You know it, and some jewelry and things.

1417
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's just you gotta give

1418
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: you give yourself a budget, have a little bit of fun,

1419
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: but knowing at the end of the day, we're planning

1420
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: for it. If if if this contract was the end today,

1421
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Not you're dependent on next contracts,

1422
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 3: next deals.

1423
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: You know how many guys when I first got in

1424
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: the league, it was like, yo, man, I got to

1425
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: get to this next contract and I ain't got nothing.

1426
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 4: I gotta get to this next cod in them never

1427
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: got to it.

1428
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: Weeah, they're planning on spending money that you won't even

1429
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: have yet. That's the crazy part. You're like, oh yeah,

1430
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: this whole John right here way, but I get the

1431
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: next one. That's when I'm gonna start saving.

1432
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: It's too late for.

1433
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 4: That, boss man.

1434
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: Look like, uh, look like we don't. We don't ran

1435
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: over a little bit. So uh what we go do

1436
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: here is we're gonna let y'all know. I hope y'all

1437
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:30,840
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1442
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