Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here, right now.
Speaker 1: This is Eyes up Here. If you're listening to an
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Speaker 1: if you didn't know by now, my name is Chadden.
Speaker 1: Every single week I am joined here by the Wonderful,
Speaker 1: by the amazing, by the one and only Queen of
Speaker 1: Extreme Francine. Usually if I'm kissing ass, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be nice for a reason, but I'm yeah, I'm wondering.
Speaker 1: Just keep going and there's something, there's something I'm just saying. Hi.
Speaker 1: So I watched your little Disney Oh do you think
Speaker 1: I put a little heart next to it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't check patrins. I did know. I saw, I
Speaker 1: saw you did. Okay, I did enjoy it. A tip,
Speaker 1: here's a tip, Yeah, pull it out more. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're actually doing something. I know that was the thing,
Speaker 1: and I said it on the video. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not like, I'm not as good as Francine. And it
Speaker 1: comes logging. I said, look, I go, I'm just pulling
Speaker 1: this out as I'm coming out of the bathroom, or
Speaker 1: I get a free second away from the family because
Speaker 1: they're all trying to jump in front of it and stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm like, believe me, I know my kids were like, hey,
Speaker 1: fans putting their face in the thing. Hey fans, how's
Speaker 1: it going? Because when I was walking out of Epcot,
Speaker 1: I'm filming walking out of Epcot, and Maddie is trying
Speaker 1: She's jumping in front of the camera and I keep
Speaker 1: turning it. But then I showed them on the ride,
Speaker 1: so I don't even know why I was doing that.
Speaker 1: I that you did that. No, I enjoyed it. I
Speaker 1: liked I like seeing stuff from other people's perspectives because
Speaker 1: you know, I know what I like, and I like
Speaker 1: to see what other people enjoy as well. So I
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching it. One thing you can appreciate. So I
Speaker 1: uploaded it to YouTube to be able to share it
Speaker 1: in Patreon, and Disney hit me with a copyright claimed,
Speaker 1: what do I have a cop did I play? I
Speaker 1: wonder there might have been a song in there or something.
Speaker 1: I think it might have been when the princesses went
Speaker 1: by the cavalcade. See that was my favorite part, when
Speaker 1: you showed the cavalcades. Yeah, I figured that because I
Speaker 1: loved this. Yeah, it was good. It was a nice
Speaker 1: and I love them so much. And my husband could
Speaker 1: care couldn't care less, and he will like he wants
Speaker 1: to get to let's say, you know, big thunder and
Speaker 1: I go ooh, cavalcading is great, and we just keep
Speaker 1: I'm walking backwards trying to look at it. So he's
Speaker 1: not into it, but I totally am. You gotta stu.
Speaker 1: Did you hear my aunt in the background she was
Speaker 1: talking to Liz as I was filming. The fairy godmother
Speaker 1: that was on the float was the same fairy godmother
Speaker 1: that they saw for my aunt's birthday. I guess when
Speaker 1: they went in a previous year. And I said, I
Speaker 1: think as we were walking away, I didn't film it.
Speaker 1: I said, well, you got to think there's probably not
Speaker 1: a lot of actresses that they have to play their
Speaker 1: fairy godmother. But I just thought that because I heard
Speaker 1: you've talked about in the Frozen, Uh what do you
Speaker 1: call the singalong? There's the one crew that you love. Well,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna mention that because you put a
Speaker 1: tidbit of that show in there. And the guy's name
Speaker 1: is Equity Ben and he actually left Disney he doesn't
Speaker 1: work there anymore. And there's that new guy Eric, which
Speaker 1: is he was good, but you know we're partial guard Ben.
Speaker 1: You know Ben was Ben was larger than life. And
Speaker 1: I mean Eric did his job. He was good, but
Speaker 1: he was no Ben. So they had so much pandemic shtick.
Speaker 1: If you did you go when you well, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I before you did. I'm saying I was asking if
Speaker 1: you didn't go, you didn't say it if you went
Speaker 1: to the Frozen singalong. But they they had a lot
Speaker 1: of pandemic stick that they they worked in in there. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh man, but I'll tell you something. And this is
Speaker 1: rare for me. I actually have coffee today instead of tea.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, wow, my dragon. Getting to Friday. This has
Speaker 1: been a heck of a long week. Yeah, it has been.
Speaker 1: Actually it has been a doozy of a week. But
Speaker 1: you know what, the weekend's here. You should have a
Speaker 1: katail this weekend. I was told that earlier in the week.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's been I think it's been a while
Speaker 1: for you. I think you should enjoy yourself. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying throw up and pass out on the floor, but
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a coati I will do you some good.
Speaker 1: That's taking the fun out of it, isn't it. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'll take the pass out. I'll by pass to throw up,
Speaker 1: go right through that. Okay, Now I don't know because
Speaker 1: then you get the spins. Oh it's the worst. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like that feeling. No me neither. Months without
Speaker 1: a drink five plus months. Well, and it's not because
Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic. It's just because you're watching your weight
Speaker 1: and you're health. I had a bad night, and I
Speaker 1: had the bad night supersedes everything else. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: you'll be all right, learn how to control yourself and
Speaker 1: you will be fine. I will not. Okay, how's everything
Speaker 1: going with you this week? Like you said, it was
Speaker 1: just a long week. You know. We did we did school, work,
Speaker 1: we hung out, got to see an old friend yesterday,
Speaker 1: me and my daughter actually went to lunch with her
Speaker 1: and her daughter, which was nice. I got out of
Speaker 1: the house for a little bit because I haven't been
Speaker 1: out of the house since Disney, so there's a little
Speaker 1: venture outside. And you know, I have a bunch of
Speaker 1: cameos to do later today and just work. Friday is
Speaker 1: my workday. I work all day Friday. I love and
Speaker 1: when I see, you know, we have our plan. And
Speaker 1: then I see the cameo filming Friday. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a hard day's work. It's just convenient because I'm
Speaker 1: already dressed, you know. And it's like, if you you
Speaker 1: have to be strategic when you book these, because if
Speaker 1: you book during the middle of the week and then
Speaker 1: they want one and then the time runs out, you
Speaker 1: have to put on hair and makeup for one cameo.
Speaker 1: So I just say, listen, let's just do them all
Speaker 1: in one day and get them over with. So I
Speaker 1: have a bunch today, which is great. Some of them
Speaker 1: are feisty, and I'm ready to go. Iicy. Now. That's
Speaker 1: the way to start the weekend, is father. The weather
Speaker 1: was starting to change. It's cold and rainy here today,
Speaker 1: but well not that rainy because I have my sunglasses
Speaker 1: on obviously, but you know, but you know it's part
Speaker 1: of the gimmick. And it's also Rustlemania weekend. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, can you believe that? And
Speaker 1: it's as I'm sitting here, I'm like, I should be
Speaker 1: at Russell Khan. Yes, but I didn't go this year.
Speaker 1: I did not go this year. I was we record
Speaker 1: a triple threat the other night. We had the same conversation.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have that feel that it had a few
Speaker 1: years ago. For the week and I'm not just talking
Speaker 1: the weekend. I'm talking about, you know, packing your bags,
Speaker 1: getting all a set. You're gonna be gone for a
Speaker 1: few days. Shane is on his way to Alaska. I know,
Speaker 1: so that's one thing that's on another stratosphere. But think
Speaker 1: about that. But our guest is here. I guess this year.
Speaker 1: We'll discuss this later. I guess I will. This is
Speaker 1: a man that I love with all of my heart,
Speaker 1: and I was so thrilled that he called me this
Speaker 1: week because we reconnected, and I'm so happy to have
Speaker 1: him here, part of one of the best tag teams
Speaker 1: ever in the history of professional wrestling. Yes, turn that
Speaker 1: light on so we can see that beautiful face yours.
Speaker 1: Move over to the side. I want to see those
Speaker 1: gig marks. Come on. There is uh it's it's Reverend
Speaker 1: Devon Divon Devon Dudley. Hello, sir, you doing how you doing?
Speaker 1: You're doing that? You're very soft? Can we can we
Speaker 1: can we raise the the volume a little bit? Are
Speaker 1: people sleeping or their eighty seven kids sleeping in that
Speaker 1: house right now. No, that's I'm the only kid that
Speaker 1: wasn't sleeping. My daughter crazy, just coming in my room
Speaker 1: and jumping on the bed in the middle of the
Speaker 1: night and not wanting to go into her room. Your
Speaker 1: kids are jumping all earthing. Well, this is going to
Speaker 1: be difficult. Turn it. There we go. There's the prodcaster
Speaker 1: right there. He's got his headphones. Ye, no better, he
Speaker 1: knows better than now. Can you hear me? Now? Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't hear crystal clear? Crystal clear. Yeah. You said
Speaker 1: your kids are jumping all over the place today, Well,
Speaker 1: my daughter, No, it wasn't today. My daughter's been doing this,
Speaker 1: man for the past three or four months. You won't
Speaker 1: sleep in our own bed, and so now it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we got a king sized bed, but with her,
Speaker 1: she's like a little thing. But yet she stretches a
Speaker 1: mile away. So I got a foot in my mouth,
Speaker 1: I got another foot in my stomach, and then she
Speaker 1: spases out every once in a while, you know, like
Speaker 1: oh freaking start smacking and all of that. So how
Speaker 1: are you gonna make baby number eighty seven? How's that
Speaker 1: gonna help it? I'm waiting for you to catch up.
Speaker 1: Oh god, guess what I wanted? Like five kids, and
Speaker 1: after two my husband was like snip snap. He said
Speaker 1: hell no, and I said, come on, these are birth
Speaker 1: and thighs. Let's go birth and thighs. I need to
Speaker 1: speak to your husband and see how he felt that
Speaker 1: for being snipped. Well, how do I feel after having
Speaker 1: two sea sections? Oh look, that's nothing. We my god,
Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by men and I can't wait. Look at
Speaker 1: my forehead. Tell me about a sea section. I know
Speaker 1: those gigs. I know, well, I took it. Listen, I
Speaker 1: took that bump of Disney. My knee is full of
Speaker 1: fluid right now. Yeah, I don't care about your forehead.
Speaker 1: We talked about that in the last po cats. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a bump back. I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, why didn't you turn to take a bath bump?
Speaker 1: But I was like it was concrete, like I would
Speaker 1: have busted my head open. I did that twice. I
Speaker 1: was going to get my wife some flowers, and I
Speaker 1: parked right next to a speaking of the Devil, the
Speaker 1: one that woke me up coming in high daddy. Oh
Speaker 1: I love it. Hi, you want to come join the
Speaker 1: show with me. Oh, let me see her. Look my god, Hi, Hi, Hi, beautiful,
Speaker 1: he's got the Kofi Kingston's because you're daddy, baby, agency God,
Speaker 1: if you're going because beautiful, divon, thank you, beautiful? Do
Speaker 1: you love your daddy? She can't hear me. I can't
Speaker 1: hear you say hi. Now she's doing her hair in
Speaker 1: the camera. Her hair. You've got to get that hair.
Speaker 1: Did Oh, she's so cute. Did you know what I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you? Are you this is WrestleMania Weekend?
Speaker 1: Are you headed out there tomorrow? No. Because of what
Speaker 1: happened with my stroke when I had November thirteenth, I've
Speaker 1: been off for work. Yesterday was the first time that
Speaker 1: I had been back and seeing everybody because I had
Speaker 1: to go do an interview documentary piece for the nine
Speaker 1: to eleven thing that happened back because we were the
Speaker 1: only thing that was going back then, and then r
Speaker 1: v D doing a documentary on him. So they asked
Speaker 1: me to come in because you know, me and Rob
Speaker 1: had had some some good matches, so sure, they asked
Speaker 1: me to come in. They had Sabou come in, they
Speaker 1: had Uh Dreamer come in, Uh Bubba uh. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be on that docum menory. So you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that you know, I had to, I
Speaker 1: guess take care of yesterday before I go back to work.
Speaker 1: So me rewind here because I heard this story on
Speaker 1: your podcast with some people might not know who listen here.
Speaker 1: What happened that day in the hotel? Can you retell
Speaker 1: that story? Yeah? Sure. I was in Hollywood, California. I
Speaker 1: was about to I was producing for NBC Punky Brewster
Speaker 1: Show and they're bringing back Punky Brewster and wwe asked
Speaker 1: me to be in Hollywood to do the show because
Speaker 1: Alexa Bliss and Charlotte was going to be on the show. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I had to go to produce it. So I said,
Speaker 1: not a problem. The first two days or three days,
Speaker 1: everything was great. But then the day of the shooting.
Speaker 1: I spoke to my wife the night before and I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to bed a little early because I
Speaker 1: have to I'm gonna go to the gym. I want
Speaker 1: to try to get the workout in before I have
Speaker 1: to be on a set. And he said goodbye. I said,
Speaker 1: I'll call you in the morning. So when I didn't
Speaker 1: call her, she got a little suspicious and was worried,
Speaker 1: so she called me. Now, I get up before she
Speaker 1: called me, I get up to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't feel my legs, so I go to
Speaker 1: stand up, not realizing, and I fell flat face first
Speaker 1: into the floor. My bottom lip went into my teeth,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, good God. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a sight for sore eyes. And haven't
Speaker 1: I go on a set and you know, because if
Speaker 1: we were doing something for WWE or ECW or TNA,
Speaker 1: it'd be no problem. Hey, you know my lip went
Speaker 1: into my teeth. Ah, I know you laugh about it,
Speaker 1: But you go on a set where people are not
Speaker 1: familiar with that, they'd be like, oh my god. What.
Speaker 1: And I tried to crawl to the bathroom because I
Speaker 1: had to go to the bathroom. That's why I got up.
Speaker 1: I tried to crawl to the bathroom and I got
Speaker 1: halfway across the room and couldn't make it. The phone rang.
Speaker 1: It was my wife, and there was a second time
Speaker 1: she called. So when sheoting in an answer, she called
Speaker 1: the front desk and she said something wrong. She's like,
Speaker 1: I can't get my husband, and you know, I'd just
Speaker 1: spoken to him last night. Something's not right, and thank
Speaker 1: god she did. They called security, security came upstairs. I
Speaker 1: was on the floor. I was almost out of it,
Speaker 1: and I said, you got to come in. I can't
Speaker 1: get up, and they came in, found me on the floor.
Speaker 1: They called the ambulance and that was when they told
Speaker 1: me I was having a stroke. Now, my wife had
Speaker 1: told me that on the phone call that I had
Speaker 1: with her, but I thought she was crazy. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm too young to have a damn stroke. I was
Speaker 1: like crazy. I was like, but nowadays, listen, people getting
Speaker 1: strokes in their thirties and twenties. So no one's promised
Speaker 1: tomorrow and and all of that good stuff. So they
Speaker 1: brought me in there. I had brain surgery because they
Speaker 1: had to put a stint in the right side of
Speaker 1: my leg to go up to the brain to break
Speaker 1: up the clock. Plus I was bleeding internally, and I
Speaker 1: tried to keep for the secret. I didn't want anybody
Speaker 1: to know. And somebody I forgot what guests was on
Speaker 1: the podcast, and I think it was Matt Hardy. Had Hardy,
Speaker 1: I think was on the podcast, and he knew and
Speaker 1: he was just like d I'm so glad everything is
Speaker 1: good with you and this and that and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I was like, thanks, Matt. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: everything is good and this and that. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was just dealing with some health issues, which is
Speaker 1: why I wasn't on the show. And as soon as
Speaker 1: I said that, the the dirt sheets went crazy, Oh
Speaker 1: Devon's dying, Oh Devon's this, and Devon's dad. I was like,
Speaker 1: the son of a bitches. I was like, damn, I
Speaker 1: just said I had a couple of health issues. That
Speaker 1: was just stuff off. Basically, listen, I could have I
Speaker 1: could have had a common cold. Maybe my nuts wasn't
Speaker 1: working right. I don't know, you know, I mean think
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, most guys when they get about
Speaker 1: their forties, if their nuts are not working to them,
Speaker 1: that's health issues. Yees, you went through that's heavy stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. And my my doctor, my neurologists told me,
Speaker 1: she said, you need to thank your wife and kissing
Speaker 1: because if she would not have called, if a second later,
Speaker 1: you would have been dead. You would have never made it.
Speaker 1: And see, our mentality is okay, I'll just sit here
Speaker 1: for a minute and get I'll get off, I'll shake
Speaker 1: it off, I'll get crazy. Well, see that's the thing,
Speaker 1: and and and yeah, uh his arm is gashed over
Speaker 1: from the barbed wire. I remember, see attendants and the bone.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile he's telling Phonsie, Hey, hey, Doddy, hey, give me
Speaker 1: some give me some crazy some tape. That's how crazy
Speaker 1: we were. But you know, it was it was an
Speaker 1: eye opening experience because I think our generation, and when
Speaker 1: I say, I mean E. C. W. Attitude Era, so
Speaker 1: forth and so on, we were always considered the young guys.
Speaker 1: We were always sitted the young boys or the young
Speaker 1: girls of the group. And now we're like the old people. Now.
Speaker 1: You know, I got gray, I got you know, salt
Speaker 1: and pepper. Yeah, but it looks I have to cover mine.
Speaker 1: We're the grizzled old that's now. Yeah, we are. And
Speaker 1: I never thought in a million years that you know,
Speaker 1: that would happen to me. I never thought that I
Speaker 1: would be the old guy. And you know, I gotta
Speaker 1: understand that the body is getting older, and what we
Speaker 1: did to our bodies back then is it was brutal,
Speaker 1: and you know, we can't do that anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: So like every once in a while, what I like
Speaker 1: to do is get into my I have a wrestling
Speaker 1: school at Devon Dudley Academy in winter Park, which is
Speaker 1: literally two minutes down the road from the performance seing.
Speaker 1: See how I added that in there, Yes, please plug
Speaker 1: whatever anyone, It's fine with me. But every time I,
Speaker 1: you know, I go down to the school, I try
Speaker 1: to get in the ring over there and just walk
Speaker 1: the rope just like you know, like getting the ring
Speaker 1: and walk from one end of the rope to the other.
Speaker 1: And when I first did it, I couldn't believe. It
Speaker 1: was like learning how to walk all over again. Because
Speaker 1: I had lost I was only at thirty percent on
Speaker 1: my left side, and so I looked at him. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know wrong, No, I basically got that I
Speaker 1: was thirty percent. I went to rehab. I'm like seventy
Speaker 1: five to eighty percent now, and I wanted to stay
Speaker 1: at the rehab center. The women were so nice. They
Speaker 1: were caddling me, you know, taking care of me, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, I don't want to leave. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was just like, well, no, you got it,
Speaker 1: like we can't keep you. And they gave me some
Speaker 1: suggestions in terms of I work out at La Fitness
Speaker 1: where I live, and they said, get the personal train
Speaker 1: and have him work out with you. Here's the routine
Speaker 1: that we were doing with you, give it to him
Speaker 1: and let them do it. So that's what I did.
Speaker 1: So now I'm continuing my rehab with the people at
Speaker 1: La Fitness and it's going great. It's getting to the
Speaker 1: point now where I'm on a treadmill and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like, how do you say this, like stretch my
Speaker 1: legs like you know, walking but fast, like you know,
Speaker 1: like the end incline is like six point five and
Speaker 1: the running part of it is like three point five.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just trying to stretch my legs like,
Speaker 1: you know, just like moms walk around the cold to
Speaker 1: sack real fast like this. Yes, that's what I'm doing. Sure,
Speaker 1: you're you're like a soccer mom now on the tread
Speaker 1: That's what I am. And I'm okay, I'm okay with
Speaker 1: that because you know, it's like it's like when a
Speaker 1: gay guy. It's like when a guy pretends to be gay,
Speaker 1: so he hangs out with a bunch of you know, women,
Speaker 1: and then the women get undressed in front of him
Speaker 1: because oh, it's okay, he's gay. I don't worried about it.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you're just like, that's
Speaker 1: that's what the whole locker room needs to say to us. Girls.
Speaker 1: We're we're all gay. Well we're gay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. Don't worry about it. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't begin to tell you how many
Speaker 1: times I pretend like I was gay. Please, I don't
Speaker 1: know about him. You're one hundred and eighty four children exactly.
Speaker 1: That's why I got one hundred and eighty four children
Speaker 1: because it actually worked. But you mentioned your school. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, God bless you. I'm so happy that
Speaker 1: you're yeah. And I mean again, I just want anybody
Speaker 1: to know I'm walking. I'm I don't have the limp anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm at eighty percent of my body. And that was
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why, because when WWE asked me,
Speaker 1: they said, you know, would you want to come down
Speaker 1: and do the documentary? First of all, it was for
Speaker 1: Rob and I was like, absolutely, I'll do it for Rob.
Speaker 1: And they said about the nine to eleven and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, sure, I come down and do it.
Speaker 1: But I told my wife, I said, I've been out
Speaker 1: since November. I said, this is a perfect opportunity for
Speaker 1: me to go meet everybody before I actually come back
Speaker 1: on May first. So it's not so strange when I
Speaker 1: come back after being gone for so long. So you know,
Speaker 1: I lived two hours away from Tampa, so I just
Speaker 1: got in the car and drove and it felt like
Speaker 1: old times, you know. You know, we could sit here
Speaker 1: and say, oh, we want that. We're tired of being
Speaker 1: on the road and we're tired of doing this and
Speaker 1: doing that. But there is a little part of us
Speaker 1: that actually misses it when we don't do it for
Speaker 1: long periods of time, because we remember the good times
Speaker 1: that we had when we were traveling and being on
Speaker 1: the road, especially with friends that we were riding up
Speaker 1: and down the highways. Room. Yeah, the playoff is when
Speaker 1: you get there and you see everyone right and heading there.
Speaker 1: But when you get there, it's like, oh, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: And the great thing about it was I got up there,
Speaker 1: I did the interview. When I was done with the interview,
Speaker 1: the first person I saw was Paul Hayman because he
Speaker 1: followed me after that, and he said, d and I
Speaker 1: said hey, Paul, you know, and I kind of did
Speaker 1: like the old wrestling thing, because you know, when you hurt,
Speaker 1: you like to sell it even more. Some people have
Speaker 1: sympathy for you. So I did the limp walking up
Speaker 1: to Paul, and Paul said, Devon, I saw you walk
Speaker 1: out of the room. Cut the ship to work. It's
Speaker 1: not happening, honey, especially trying to work. Paul, you can't
Speaker 1: work exactly. That's the biggest work of them all. And
Speaker 1: so one of the first guys I saw uh doing
Speaker 1: that was Kofe. That's how I bring I brought up Gofee.
Speaker 1: Kofe was so he goes, oh, there he is, there
Speaker 1: he is, and he proked this car. He came up,
Speaker 1: gave me a big hug. I saw Xavier. You know
Speaker 1: who else do? I said, m v P. You know,
Speaker 1: I saw all of those guys and it just felt
Speaker 1: like I was like, Okay, this is what I needed.
Speaker 1: I called my wife, I said, this is what I needed.
Speaker 1: I said, because in order for me to go back
Speaker 1: May first, I don't want people feeling sorry to me
Speaker 1: I can't do this or can't do that. I don't
Speaker 1: want I just want to be able to be normal again.
Speaker 1: Well you look great. I just let me just jump
Speaker 1: over one second. Did you did they tell you, like,
Speaker 1: were there any signs that you might have missed that
Speaker 1: light to or is it just something that happened you know? No, No,
Speaker 1: it was a stress you know. Listen, I love I
Speaker 1: like w W E and this and that, but it
Speaker 1: is a very stressful job love to like mind you
Speaker 1: if you if you just heard that, I like, I
Speaker 1: love like I do. I do, but it's it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where it can be stressful. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: sometimes when you feel passionate about something and you wanted
Speaker 1: to project into your matches or what have you, and
Speaker 1: then the power to be saying no, we want it
Speaker 1: this way, and you get frustrated. So now you take
Speaker 1: it personally. I had to learn how to not take
Speaker 1: it so personal and just leave it at the door.
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that I
Speaker 1: had a real bad problem with. And so I'm learning
Speaker 1: how to do that, not only just with wrestling, but
Speaker 1: just life in general. You know my ex wife, well,
Speaker 1: I can't stand I'm learning to do that without about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just learned how to do so,
Speaker 1: you know, again, it is stressful. It is, but when
Speaker 1: you have those great matches with guys that I've worked with,
Speaker 1: the USSOS, the New Day, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: those matches, those great matches that we saw like two
Speaker 1: years ago, I was producing those with the USOS and
Speaker 1: the New Day, the Bar, the Bloods and Brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: all of those guys. I had the tag teams and
Speaker 1: so it was great, and you know, I really enjoyed myself,
Speaker 1: you know, with doing that. So there is some satisfaction.
Speaker 1: Even when sometimes you get rejected on some of the
Speaker 1: things that you want to do, there is still satisfaction
Speaker 1: knowing that those guys are still going to go out there,
Speaker 1: bust their ass and still deliver. I'm sorry, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people like to, you know, and I said
Speaker 1: this so many times and interviews. I even put it
Speaker 1: on my Instagram about the New Day and the Bar
Speaker 1: and the USOS, maybe you know, taking the page out
Speaker 1: of the Dudley's edgend Christian and the Hardy's and taking
Speaker 1: the other guys that are taken over where we left off. Oh,
Speaker 1: that you can't say that they can't handle hold the
Speaker 1: candle to you guys, and this and that I'm like, guys,
Speaker 1: you got to learn how to let go and move
Speaker 1: on past the torch. I mean, you guys, said you fans,
Speaker 1: Some of you fans sound like the old timers that
Speaker 1: wouldn't let the young guys progress. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: you gotta let them create history. And there's no question
Speaker 1: in my mind the usso's the new Day, the Bludgeons
Speaker 1: and all those guys eating Zach Ryder, Kurt Hawkins. I mean,
Speaker 1: all those guys. They had tremendous matches, you know when
Speaker 1: in the very beginning of me producing, and you know,
Speaker 1: some of the fans just wouldn't let yesterday go. And
Speaker 1: I get it. It was good and just like ECW,
Speaker 1: so many guys, so many people. You hear it all
Speaker 1: the time, even to this day. God, we wish ECW
Speaker 1: would come back. You guys were great, you guys with
Speaker 1: this and it wrestling ain't the same. I get that.
Speaker 1: But you have to let go and let the new
Speaker 1: generation come in. Because if the Hogan and Andre era,
Speaker 1: you know, if people didn't let them go, where would
Speaker 1: we be in an attitude era. That's a great point.
Speaker 1: I'm going to backtrack for a second. You mentioned your
Speaker 1: wrestling school. Okay, and I know in the beginning it
Speaker 1: was you and Bubba, it was the collab at first.
Speaker 1: Are you still very close with Bubba? And why is
Speaker 1: it just the Divonne School now? Well, you know he
Speaker 1: moved to Connecticut, right, that was one of the things
Speaker 1: he did. He moved to Connecticut, and he basically the
Speaker 1: school was in Kassimmei at one point. So with him
Speaker 1: being now in Connecticut and me being in Kassimmi, it
Speaker 1: was just like one of those things where you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of went our separate ways. We went our
Speaker 1: separate ways when we left the WWE as a tag team,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, Bubba felt that the Dudley Boys
Speaker 1: were not being used right when we came back. And look,
Speaker 1: my thing was this, I knew when we came back,
Speaker 1: we weren't going to try to relive the attitude Erar.
Speaker 1: I knew that. I knew that that was gone. Our
Speaker 1: job now was to still stay relevant as the old
Speaker 1: guys now and to be able to help those who
Speaker 1: are now coming up for the future of the WWE.
Speaker 1: And you know, I wasn't trying to win titles and
Speaker 1: things like that. I just wanted to be able to
Speaker 1: prove to myself that I could hang with these young
Speaker 1: guys now still after all of these years, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, Bubba just felt that, you know, the
Speaker 1: team just wasn't being utilized right and so forth and
Speaker 1: so on. So you know, he told me that Dudley's
Speaker 1: were dead. He wanted to do the Bully Ray character.
Speaker 1: And and I get that you had success with it
Speaker 1: in TNA, but now you're coming over to the Giant
Speaker 1: and it may not be the same result that you
Speaker 1: get in TNA that you might get with WWE. I
Speaker 1: get the passion for it, but still, you know, the
Speaker 1: money is the Dudley's. It's not Devon separate, and it's
Speaker 1: not Bubba separate. Just like with the Road Warriors, it
Speaker 1: was never Hawked separate. It was never Animal And whenever
Speaker 1: those two did separate for that little bit of time
Speaker 1: that they did when they came back, it was tremendous,
Speaker 1: And you know, I was kind of, you know, I
Speaker 1: was kind of a little pissed off, you know, because
Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, we had a second
Speaker 1: deal ready to go. We were supposed to still be
Speaker 1: wrestling in twenty sixteen. That's what a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know. And I'm sure people that the dirt sheet
Speaker 1: writers that are listening to your things gonna have a
Speaker 1: field day with this, because I've never said anything about
Speaker 1: this puppy. It was going off head the bells were
Speaker 1: going off as you're, oh, yeah, but but but we don't.
Speaker 1: Me and Bubba don't have any animosity towards one another.
Speaker 1: It's just that, you know, he saw it going one
Speaker 1: way and I saw it going another, and you know,
Speaker 1: it just didn't work out. So we never got a
Speaker 1: chance to, you know, have that have a second run.
Speaker 1: The second time we came back, I was heartbroken. If
Speaker 1: you go back and you listen, if you look at
Speaker 1: the when we said farewell to the Dudley's, they gave
Speaker 1: us a script to do, and I said, fuck it.
Speaker 1: I said, what's the worst they can do is fire me.
Speaker 1: You already did. He told me not renewing the contract.
Speaker 1: So I got nothing to lose now, and I got
Speaker 1: nowhere to go, So I basically said effort. I went
Speaker 1: out there and cut a promo from the heart, and
Speaker 1: I remember when I came back from the locker room,
Speaker 1: Vince got up and shook my hand and hugged me
Speaker 1: and embraced me. Really tight, and I was just like
Speaker 1: thank you, and I you know, there was tears coming
Speaker 1: out of my eyes because I did not want to leave.
Speaker 1: It took me ten years to come back to this
Speaker 1: company and then to earned the respect of guys like
Speaker 1: Roman Reigns and at the time being the Ambrose who
Speaker 1: was there, and all the guys that were there in
Speaker 1: that new generation. It took you know, I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, we did all of this for what you know,
Speaker 1: and to just because we want to do singles, you know,
Speaker 1: he wanted to say. I was like no, I was like,
Speaker 1: just go do it. Let's just do it. Let's make
Speaker 1: the money and and call it a day. Because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you got to think about it.
Speaker 1: Forty something years old, you know you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: paid like this again, not in your forties. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so something to think about, you know what, that's what
Speaker 1: did it register in your mind? Like maybe I could
Speaker 1: transition to being like an agent or a producer. Did
Speaker 1: you No, here's the thing. I went to Hunter and
Speaker 1: I said, Hunter, I said, this is not right. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be singing. I said, let me
Speaker 1: go and help, like say, apollow out what the time
Speaker 1: was in was trying to find his you know, place
Speaker 1: in the company. Uh. There was a couple of other guys,
Speaker 1: two young guys that I had offered to come in
Speaker 1: there and just help out, just the same way for Rouke.
Speaker 1: Ron Simmons did it for Bradshaw, because remember when Bradshaw
Speaker 1: first got to w W, he was doing like the
Speaker 1: Stan Hansen gimmick and it wasn't It didn't get over
Speaker 1: as well as it did when he got with for
Speaker 1: Rouke and they became a PA. I wanted to do
Speaker 1: the same thing and they told me no. They said no.
Speaker 1: They was like, you know, Vince doesn't want that, and
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna we But Hana pulled me aside.
Speaker 1: He told me because he didn't want me to sit
Speaker 1: before me and Bubba went out to the ring on
Speaker 1: Monday night raw He pulled me to the side and
Speaker 1: he said, listen, we have a proposition for you. And
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna say, they're gonna give me
Speaker 1: the contract, let me do it. I was like yeah, No,
Speaker 1: they were just like, you know, we want to bring
Speaker 1: you in as a producer, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a producer, said I'm not ready
Speaker 1: to hang it up. I said, there's still life in me,
Speaker 1: and he said no, no, no. He was like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, he goes, but look, Devonne, here's a chance
Speaker 1: to get you to still stay with the company and
Speaker 1: make money and not to mention, you can set yourself
Speaker 1: up for life. And he was right, yeah, And you know,
Speaker 1: I look at it like this, it's divine intervention that
Speaker 1: brought that upon me, because there's no telling what would
Speaker 1: have happened if I would have said no, or even
Speaker 1: if Bubba and I would have taken the contract. You
Speaker 1: know what would have happened after that year was over.
Speaker 1: Where would I have gone? Would I have still had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to become a producer. Here's the deal. I
Speaker 1: get a four to one K I get stock in
Speaker 1: the company. I got benefits that pay eighty five to
Speaker 1: ninety percent. And I mean, listen what I just went
Speaker 1: through with this free stroke. Forget about it. I'd be
Speaker 1: like somebody stars that made millions of dollars and go
Speaker 1: broke because they had medical issues and they couldn't pay
Speaker 1: for it. This company that insurance paid for everything. I
Speaker 1: got a life insurance policy in case something happens to me,
Speaker 1: and if something does happen to me, my wife gets
Speaker 1: the life insurance policy and eighty one percent of my
Speaker 1: pay for I think at least a year or two.
Speaker 1: So I'm set up up everything for the family and myself.
Speaker 1: When I've done so, we're smart, smart move. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: was so, you know, God bless Bubba, but I had
Speaker 1: to go. I had to think for myself now, you know,
Speaker 1: because we always start as a team. But now I
Speaker 1: got a wife, kids I gotta take care of, and
Speaker 1: I got to make sure that everything is gonna be
Speaker 1: fun for me. Because think about it, so many guys
Speaker 1: from our generation, whether it be E. CW or WWE,
Speaker 1: that aren't doing too well right now. Oh yeah, they
Speaker 1: got to go out there every day and still wrestling
Speaker 1: that ring. They got to sign autographs and this and that.
Speaker 1: WWE gave me the position to set myself up to
Speaker 1: really do good. Well. I don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: all of that anymore. I don't have to get back
Speaker 1: in the ring if I don't want to, you know.
Speaker 1: And that was the thing Hunter said, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: every once in a while, we can still bring you
Speaker 1: out or maybe put you in the matches so and
Speaker 1: that's what they did. They brought me out every once
Speaker 1: in a while, and it gave me that little bit
Speaker 1: of a Okay, I'm cool, but you know, after getting
Speaker 1: hit one time by one of those guys, I was like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm too damn old. I can't take this no more. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, it went from not liking to be
Speaker 1: a producer to because I didn't understand the value of it,
Speaker 1: to now loving it and wanting to be a part
Speaker 1: of it. Not to mention, everything happens for a reason,
Speaker 1: and one of the greatest things about this was that
Speaker 1: my soul got right, you know. And the reason why
Speaker 1: you see Reverend Devon right now is because I became
Speaker 1: an ordained reverend. I'm now a preacher now for real.
Speaker 1: It's not just Reverend Devon as SmackDown now. I'm really
Speaker 1: an ordained reverend now, which you're so wrong in e
Speaker 1: c W. I mean, so, just let me put it
Speaker 1: you this way. If I would have had if I
Speaker 1: would have been a reverend back then and I had
Speaker 1: a church and I had everybody come in there, that
Speaker 1: church would have burned to the ground. I tell you
Speaker 1: what I mean. I always say, like everything's in the vault.
Speaker 1: Like I've now ever told stories, and I never will
Speaker 1: because it's not my place, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But all I need to say is we had a
Speaker 1: good time. We had a fun nominal time. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: if the me and Paulie were talking about that when
Speaker 1: I left from doing the interview, he we were talking
Speaker 1: about e C walking about the travel large oh in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia where we all used to stay. After we were done,
Speaker 1: he goes, if the walls would talk for trust me,
Speaker 1: the Walls wouldn't be talking at all at this point
Speaker 1: because they knew a lot of people would go down.
Speaker 1: That's like it was disgusting, disgusting hepatitis, like like sperm
Speaker 1: ridden hotel. It was so gross, and yet we stayed
Speaker 1: there for so long. It was cheap, and but to me,
Speaker 1: it was like the it was like the five star
Speaker 1: marriout to me because here it is, I'm a kid
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn that never been out of Brooklyn, never been
Speaker 1: out of there. And then all of a sudden, now
Speaker 1: you're telling me I'm going to be on the road wrestling.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that, of course, And now you're telling
Speaker 1: me I'm gonna be staying overnight in a hotel where
Speaker 1: there's groupies, there's Marks with money that wants to pay you,
Speaker 1: you know, give you buy your beer and alcohol and stuff. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we want to do anything. So now I'm in heaven. Well,
Speaker 1: it was fun, you know when when we had the
Speaker 1: bar down there and we would all go to the
Speaker 1: bar and then it would put us on the television. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we'd come on at like two in the morning
Speaker 1: and they want to leave the bar open and we
Speaker 1: would sit there and we would watch with the fans,
Speaker 1: you know, and they would buy us drinks and we
Speaker 1: would just out. And I think to this day that's
Speaker 1: part of the reason why, like so many fans say
Speaker 1: to me all the time, like your locker room was
Speaker 1: the friendliest locker room ever, because you didn't treat us
Speaker 1: like marks. You treated us like people, and you let us.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to say, well it was basically
Speaker 1: because you were buying the boys beer. I didn't say that,
Speaker 1: but it's true, Like I enjoyed. They were nice and
Speaker 1: friendly and they weren't too persistent, and we would just
Speaker 1: sit there and we would hang out for a while
Speaker 1: and they were fun, you know, and it was a
Speaker 1: good time, and to this day, they always say ECW
Speaker 1: was so you guys were approachable and you were pleasant
Speaker 1: to be around. You weren't like, get out of here,
Speaker 1: you stupid mark, you know, because some people didn't want
Speaker 1: to be bothered. You know, we're backed up as we were, like, hey,
Speaker 1: come on in the morning, like twenty thirty of us
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning. And I could go on
Speaker 1: and on. There were so many memories that I have
Speaker 1: of just hanging out and like you and I I
Speaker 1: said this on your show too, Like you and I
Speaker 1: clicked from the beginning, and we were really close, you know,
Speaker 1: like we talked in and out of the ring. And
Speaker 1: I was heartbroken when you left. But I understood why, right,
Speaker 1: some people had animosity when guys would leave, you know,
Speaker 1: because I was. I stayed there till the ship sunk.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to let go. I was just fighting
Speaker 1: to survive, you know. And I would tell them, like,
Speaker 1: these people they have families, Like they're being offered so
Speaker 1: much more money. I get it. They're not abandoning us,
Speaker 1: They're doing it for their families. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: it really, you know, it really helped me a lot,
Speaker 1: because you know it hurt me, but it helped me
Speaker 1: because I tell you what, you know, we were making
Speaker 1: very good money. You know, the last two maybe three
Speaker 1: years off VCW really was it was really a good time.
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden you go to WWE
Speaker 1: and that purse is even bigger, and now you'll be
Speaker 1: able to buy things that you never thought you would
Speaker 1: dream about buying going there. Listen, the minute I got
Speaker 1: my the minute I got my very two paychecks, I
Speaker 1: went out and bought escalade. And at this time, Bubba
Speaker 1: lived in Long Island still at the time, and our
Speaker 1: first show that we went to, god we was our
Speaker 1: first show. I think it was somewhere at Wooster Wooster,
Speaker 1: mass Oh yeah. And so he goes Devon, I'll meet
Speaker 1: you at your house, and you know, you mind driving
Speaker 1: up there. I was like, no, I'll drive. So we're
Speaker 1: driving up there. I got the escalator. Now, remember back then,
Speaker 1: you didn't tell what you made or even wanted it,
Speaker 1: you know, like like athletes do today. They you know
Speaker 1: they got to do with the rings. They get the
Speaker 1: cars and the house. Did you get heat for it?
Speaker 1: You get a heat for it? You get the actually
Speaker 1: heat for it. So when we got to the building.
Speaker 1: The first person I saw was road Dog when I
Speaker 1: pulled up, and I went, oh ship and yeah, I
Speaker 1: told him. I told him was my father's car. I
Speaker 1: told my father's escalated. He goes no. And then we
Speaker 1: saw JR. Jr. You know, at the time, Jay always
Speaker 1: head of talent relations, so he was the one that
Speaker 1: was paying you. So he come up. God damn boys.
Speaker 1: He was like, he's like, good job. He's like, look
Speaker 1: at that. That's a nice escalator. And I went, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my dad's escalator. I brought it from me and
Speaker 1: Bubba came up, lie in my ass. And then when
Speaker 1: I told road Dog that, road Dog went yeah right.
Speaker 1: So it was It was funny because two months later,
Speaker 1: road Dog was still teasing me about to escalate. So
Speaker 1: he said, Devon, you know, I'm just pulling your leg.
Speaker 1: He was like, I just bought me an escalate too.
Speaker 1: I said, you son of a bitch. You have to
Speaker 1: feel that way. You worked hard for that money. Yeah
Speaker 1: you can buy It's not like you were being a
Speaker 1: dick about it. And you know you're not wearing the
Speaker 1: pin that said hey I'm rich. I just bought an
Speaker 1: escalator your car. You drove it to the arena, well
Speaker 1: what we used to do exactly. That's what I saw that. Now,
Speaker 1: if I came in in like a camera told you
Speaker 1: the camera to be like, oh okay, you know, no problem.
Speaker 1: But I came in to escalate. So now everybody's like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Escalat escalate business. And then and then
Speaker 1: I remember Bubba and I after about I think we
Speaker 1: went to Madison Square Garden. We were doing our first
Speaker 1: garden show and we were we were it was me,
Speaker 1: Bubba and the Rock versus d X. It was Hunter,
Speaker 1: road Dog and X POC and he goes, I'll meet
Speaker 1: to at your house again. I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: He was like, what happens if you roll up and
Speaker 1: they see it. I'm like, look, we're headlining main event
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden with the Rock in Triple H. I said,
Speaker 1: you think I give a damn? I said, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm living a dream. This is my car. It's not
Speaker 1: my daddy's car exactly. He just started laughing. He's right,
Speaker 1: you're right. Actually, yeah, at that point you can you
Speaker 1: can buy whatever you want. Yeah, so you know, I
Speaker 1: mean it was fun times like that that, you know,
Speaker 1: I do missed terribly and you know when people ask
Speaker 1: me all the time, do you still speak to Bubba? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we speak, but not as often as we used to go.
Speaker 1: You know, he has his life too. He's living in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: He has his podcast and his radio show and all
Speaker 1: of that, and he's got the school up there, and
Speaker 1: I've got mine over here. I got a detailing business
Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale as well. I'm doing that. So between
Speaker 1: me being reverend, the detailing business, eighty seven kids in
Speaker 1: eighty seven jobs. Listen, I did exactly what the Bible
Speaker 1: told me to do. Okay, be merry, fruitful, and multiply.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I did because I figured this way,
Speaker 1: if I put one of them little basins in time
Speaker 1: out or on punishment, they're gonna turn on me. So
Speaker 1: one of them is bound to understand what I did
Speaker 1: and take care of me when my my ass get old. Listen,
Speaker 1: you're a good father, and that's the most important thing, right.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you have one hundred kids, you
Speaker 1: take care of a hundred kids. You're I ain't never
Speaker 1: asked for no help from nobody, that's right. And you're
Speaker 1: twins who I haven't seen since they were little, and
Speaker 1: and by the way, they used to be scared of
Speaker 1: me for what reason, I don't even know. Listen, they
Speaker 1: were scared of Mickey Mouse, Okay, at Disney World. So
Speaker 1: there you go. That tells you right there about I'm
Speaker 1: such a sweet person. Yeah, so is Mickey. They're working,
Speaker 1: they're workers now. Yeah. And I was not happy about
Speaker 1: it at all. I was totally against it because I
Speaker 1: knew how hard it was when I came up in
Speaker 1: the buildings and how some people talk to you and
Speaker 1: treat you promoter wise. And I didn't want that for them,
Speaker 1: you know, because I know, as protective as I was
Speaker 1: and still am, I would flip out if somebody talk
Speaker 1: to my kids the way you know, I got talked to, right,
Speaker 1: And so you know, I didn't want to do it,
Speaker 1: but you know, I remember having conversations with the Rock
Speaker 1: one time we would because the Rock and Bubba and
Speaker 1: I used to drive together, and he said, dvar, He said,
Speaker 1: you know, my father wasn't happy with me doing it either,
Speaker 1: and because he said the same thing about with his
Speaker 1: father how he felt about the business, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know if if I me and my father had
Speaker 1: many blowouts about it. Finally he gave in and then
Speaker 1: he decided to you know, teach me, he goes. If
Speaker 1: he didn't give in and decided to give me his blessing,
Speaker 1: I would have never been to rock. I would have
Speaker 1: never been who I am. And he's right. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know what I said, you never know. If it's
Speaker 1: if God wants them to be there, they'll be there.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't. Do they have the bug? Now they
Speaker 1: have they've been. Let me tell you something. They had
Speaker 1: the bug at WrestleMania's seventeen when we did the TLC match.
Speaker 1: That's where it all started, you know, because you gotta understand,
Speaker 1: they grew up. They grew up. They were with me
Speaker 1: in e C. Wright, they were there with all the matches.
Speaker 1: They were there watching Sandman drink a case of beer
Speaker 1: before he goes out, and yo, you know, they were
Speaker 1: there doing the whole thing. And so now you get
Speaker 1: to WWE. Now you see the glitz and the glamour
Speaker 1: and all of that, and then the fans waiting outside
Speaker 1: at the hotel and you know, autographs and this and that,
Speaker 1: and now they're like they're like what six seven years old.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, you know, my dad is
Speaker 1: somebody see maybe you should have just showed them the
Speaker 1: travel lodge and they would have been like, no, I
Speaker 1: cannot do this. Listen. I tried. I even tried to
Speaker 1: show pictures of the travel lodge and they were like, Nope,
Speaker 1: we ain't buying it because you just put us in
Speaker 1: this five star hotel, so we're not buying it. We're
Speaker 1: not buying it at all. Oh my god. So they're
Speaker 1: working indies, they're working well yeah, and then they're in
Speaker 1: a w right now doing this stuff over there. So
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for it. And people say, well, why
Speaker 1: didn't they go to w W. I tell them, and
Speaker 1: I tell them. I tell people all the time. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's like Dusty Rose with Dustin. You know when when
Speaker 1: Dusty was in the w c W slash n w A,
Speaker 1: Dustin was there. But then Dustin needed his own identity
Speaker 1: as opposed to being Dusty Rose's son, the son of
Speaker 1: the plumber. So he had to go out there and
Speaker 1: create you know, gold dust, his own persona. But he
Speaker 1: had to do it on his own terms. And that's
Speaker 1: what the that's what the twins wanted to do. They
Speaker 1: wanted they didn't want Dad's help or nothing like that.
Speaker 1: And they just want to go out there and do that.
Speaker 1: And I, you know, I told him, I said, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I said, you're on your own. I said,
Speaker 1: you do what you gotta do. I was like, and
Speaker 1: you make your decisions. If you fall, then you fall.
Speaker 1: Learn how to pick yourself back up. But if you
Speaker 1: need me because you fell too hard, then come see me.
Speaker 1: I love it and each other, which is each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you and you and I weren't second generation wrestlers,
Speaker 1: so we didn't have anybody made mistakes to help us.
Speaker 1: We had to deal with the mistakes and live with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. So they have a support system which is phenomenal,
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of them, you know, So let them
Speaker 1: go out there and do their own thing. Don't have
Speaker 1: to live in daddy shadows. What I do like is
Speaker 1: though they do pay homage to me and Bubba, and
Speaker 1: they do hit us, they do hit the three DS,
Speaker 1: So I'm happy about that, and I think they do
Speaker 1: it better than me and Bubba. I never got to
Speaker 1: take that, and you know I would have. Oh, I
Speaker 1: know you would have. But it was a good thing
Speaker 1: you didn't, because you know, Bubba, sometimes you know he
Speaker 1: would want to hook you and then grab you and
Speaker 1: really bring you down to the mat, and you know
Speaker 1: that's what that's what he did to some people. So
Speaker 1: you know, and being at you and I were such good,
Speaker 1: so good with each other. I'll be like, no, Bubba,
Speaker 1: leave alone, Stime, don't do that. No, I gotta throw
Speaker 1: this in now, just that before we move on. I
Speaker 1: got to ask this because I've never had a member
Speaker 1: of the Triple Threat, a member of the Dudleys. So
Speaker 1: when I do this, what do I What am I
Speaker 1: doing here? Devon, you're doing three D Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. Well, I don't know. We can share it.
Speaker 1: I better say, we're on Francine show, so we got
Speaker 1: to share it and give it. Favorite e c W memory.
Speaker 1: Do you have one? I mean, I know there's so many,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm involved in some day. Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1: Like the one I have is like we talked about
Speaker 1: my podcast. When I first came in my my first
Speaker 1: match in e c W uh at the e c
Speaker 1: W Arena, I should say, where you were with the
Speaker 1: pit bulls and you were messing with dancing with Dudley's
Speaker 1: and I jumped out the ring. I said bitch, you
Speaker 1: messing with my brother. I don't understand this story because
Speaker 1: I told you my first meeting with Paul he made
Speaker 1: me take a choke slam that I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what a choke slam was. Then you tell me the
Speaker 1: other day paul says, do you don't touch her? She's
Speaker 1: she can't bump or she she should n't pump, right, Ye,
Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't the right time because we we
Speaker 1: did see you go through a table at one point,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like a pump, So I guess it
Speaker 1: was at that time, you know, not good to touch
Speaker 1: it because what we had going on, because if I
Speaker 1: was to touch you, they would have had to really
Speaker 1: destroy me, and Paulie was just starting to push me,
Speaker 1: so they didn't want that. So now that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So that was a fond memory of mine. And another
Speaker 1: one was when we put balls Mahoney to the table
Speaker 1: in Detroit. But what what stood out on that was
Speaker 1: me and Bubba came out excided the crowd like we
Speaker 1: normally do, and we actually got into a fist fight
Speaker 1: with fans in the front row, and yeah, Bubba got
Speaker 1: a little too close and one of them took a
Speaker 1: swipe at him. So you know, now Bubba goes after them,
Speaker 1: and now the other people are trying to jump on Bubba.
Speaker 1: So therefore I got to jump on them. And at
Speaker 1: the security came over and they started trying to break
Speaker 1: it up. They're like, Devon stopped this. I was like,
Speaker 1: hell no, I said, this is good ratings. And you know,
Speaker 1: and the great thing about it was the explosion when
Speaker 1: we put balls mahoney through that flaming table was tremendous.
Speaker 1: And then we get to the back and Paulie goes, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you know, listen, you know those guys you got into
Speaker 1: the argument went of the fight. Yeah, they're in the back.
Speaker 1: And we thought we were like, oh they want to fight. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, so we're ready to go back. They
Speaker 1: said no, no no, no, no, no no, they just they were
Speaker 1: they were they were super hyped about it. They loved it.
Speaker 1: They thought it was great. And we were like, all right,
Speaker 1: and we went back there and we were like, hey, guys.
Speaker 1: They was like, man, that was great, you guys, that
Speaker 1: was great because it was part of the show. They
Speaker 1: were part to bring them. You know what, everybody who
Speaker 1: got in a fight we would bring to the back
Speaker 1: and give them T shirts and then we'd have to
Speaker 1: go up to them and talk to them, so we
Speaker 1: wouldn't get yes, we get sued. Oh god. And at
Speaker 1: that point I wasn't making enough money for them to
Speaker 1: assue me, so I'd be broke as hell right now,
Speaker 1: still paying for that exactly. Oh my gosh. Well I again,
Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled that we reconnected, like absolutely, I can't
Speaker 1: even say how happy I am. And we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: in touch. And I have to call you next week
Speaker 1: because I have something to talk to you about to
Speaker 1: see if you're interested, a little proposition if you will
Speaker 1: money money is not, so I will pull you next week.
Speaker 1: But what can you plug? Plug away, let the fans
Speaker 1: know where they can find you. What you got going on?
Speaker 1: You have eighty seven businesses? Yeah, plus yeah, plus my
Speaker 1: reverend business. So I am because I've got people now
Speaker 1: asking me to do their weddings. So I've got like
Speaker 1: four or five weddings schedule that I'm doing, So I think.
Speaker 1: I think that's great. I'm really enjoying that, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to really have fun with it. I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna have fun with it. So to have
Speaker 1: Reverend Devon just you know, email me. It's on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: You can go to testify Devon. Hold On, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pull it up because I don't remember this. Yeah, we don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember this. So yeah it's uh nope, that's
Speaker 1: Alexa Bliss. I can't do that. I follow her. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's at Devon d v O. N. Dudley ninety six
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Any inquiries for autograph signings or
Speaker 1: anything like that, or me coming, you know, do your wedding,
Speaker 1: you can contact me there. I have a representative there
Speaker 1: that handles all the emails. I also have the wrestling
Speaker 1: school that we just talked about and which is doing tremendous.
Speaker 1: We have almost one hundred students right now. Wow. Myself,
Speaker 1: I'm there just I'm there every day. We're open Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Thursdays from five pm to ten pm. And
Speaker 1: I'm the trainer. Okay, I am the trainer. I'm there
Speaker 1: training you firsthand. We're at twenty seven twenty Forsyth Road,
Speaker 1: Unit three eighteen, Winna Park, Florida. Uh three two nine,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, three two seven nine to two. So you
Speaker 1: can take us there. You can also call us area
Speaker 1: code four oh seven seven nine zero seven eight zero zero.
Speaker 1: So again that's on Testify Devon, my Instagram and uh
Speaker 1: we also have Devon Academy, which is the website for
Speaker 1: the resting school. And then and then you can see
Speaker 1: me on Twitter as well as Testify Devon. But you
Speaker 1: can really get me on Instagram. That's why I am
Speaker 1: most of the time. Okay, and see ignore Instagram and
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter. Oh I forgot. And if you if
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Speaker 1: as well for you. He is an entrepreneur. Yep, yep,
Speaker 1: we'll do that. And many family man married to Congratulations
Speaker 1: on that beautiful friend. I'm blessed in every sense of
Speaker 1: the word. God has really renovated my life and really
Speaker 1: made me into demand that I am today. And you
Speaker 1: know that's one of the reasons why I wanted to
Speaker 1: give my life to God, because without him I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be where I am. And this success right here listen
Speaker 1: with so many things that were going wrong. With so
Speaker 1: many trials and tribulations over the years, I could have
Speaker 1: easily just packed it up and said I'm finished, I'm done.
Speaker 1: But God told me no, He said, this is what
Speaker 1: I have for you. You're gonna have to go through
Speaker 1: this in order to appreciate what I'm about to give you.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I'm doing right now. Testify. Oh amen,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it well. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you were able to come on today. Stay healthy. Please, yes,
Speaker 1: we'll do I mean, like I said, the doctor, yes,
Speaker 1: keep it low. The doctor said, I'm doing great, and
Speaker 1: that remarkable recovery, just because of the shape that I
Speaker 1: was in, you know, after being wrestling for so many years,
Speaker 1: and luckily it came like not luckily, but no, it
Speaker 1: is luckily because if I would have did it when
Speaker 1: I was out of shape, or would have you forget
Speaker 1: about it, I probably would have bounced back as fast,
Speaker 1: right right, Well, I love you so much and I
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're healthy and doing well, and
Speaker 1: we're definitely going to stay in touch. So actually your
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Speaker 1: the Eyes up Here family. Oh my god, dude, I
Speaker 1: love him. That was great. I love him so much, wonderful.
Speaker 1: He's doing great. Well, that's a remarkable story. When I
Speaker 1: even tell did you even know? That's what? When I
Speaker 1: heard it when he interviewed you. Yeah, I'm like, and
Speaker 1: I was looking at his box, I'm like, he looks
Speaker 1: great for having a stroke six months ago. Unbelievable. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. I'm like, what, And
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, you can barely hear me slur. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't hear you slur at all. He's doing phenomenal.
Speaker 1: So I'm so happy for him. Yeah. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: good dude. He's been a like a constant good person
Speaker 1: throughout you know what I mean, Like, he's just been
Speaker 1: a it's just a good friend. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: things whenever we have somebody from me cwe and when
Speaker 1: you talk about that connection that you had with them,
Speaker 1: you see the people that gravitated to one another have
Speaker 1: that kind of same you know that they would have
Speaker 1: pad something like that. Yeah, it's there and it was
Speaker 1: that night. It was the Terry Funk retirement and I
Speaker 1: said it before. It was myself and Shane and the Dudleys.
Speaker 1: We were not invited. We were told do not come
Speaker 1: because we were I guess we were the top heels
Speaker 1: in the company. We weren't allowed to be there, and
Speaker 1: we had our feud with Terry, you know. And I
Speaker 1: don't know where Shane went that night, but Bubba and
Speaker 1: Defont said come with us, and I said, all right.
Speaker 1: We went to bar A. We lost Bubba, but Devon
Speaker 1: and I were stuck like glue together because we didn't
Speaker 1: know his soul and we just danced for hours and
Speaker 1: it was just so fun and I really got to
Speaker 1: know him as a person and then we just became buds.
Speaker 1: You know. I love that. That's so bad. He's just
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing story and dellic and that should show
Speaker 1: you that's the stress that working in the WW can
Speaker 1: put on people or in general. But I can I
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about. You know. It's it's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on those production and the television from
Speaker 1: that side of things. And I mean, he's he's a
Speaker 1: walking advertisement for Faith right there, because he looks great,
Speaker 1: he sounds great, and he seems like he's on a
Speaker 1: great road to recovery. Yeah, I'm very proud of him,
Speaker 1: and I'm very happy for where he ended up. So,
Speaker 1: you know, good people should get good things in life,
Speaker 1: and he's definitely one of them. So all right, now
Speaker 1: that he's kind, if I throw this up, what is it?
Speaker 1: Get out of here, divon with your Dudley's we could
Speaker 1: share because it's your show. Yeah yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: great now, I really very fine. Yep, so what you got,
Speaker 1: you got it? You know, we ate up almost a
Speaker 1: whole hour with great longer. But I was watching the time.
Speaker 1: I was like, we got eighty seven sponsors. We have
Speaker 1: we have other yes, we have other business to attend
Speaker 1: to h O Patreon. Do we know what? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I'll say you heard it. You know at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the episode of The Post the other Day,
Speaker 1: this episode was actually sponsored by Draft Kings Draft I
Speaker 1: Love Draftings opped in for their WrestleMania promo. But I
Speaker 1: already went over all the details for that, so you don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I already read everything. We have used Draft Kings, Oh
Speaker 1: not me, my husband, but he loved it. Loves it,
Speaker 1: so uh and there you go. Yeah, you could bet
Speaker 1: on on wrestling now unbeknownst to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's all good. But yeah, we'll go
Speaker 1: over Patreon. And it's funny that we had to doubly
Speaker 1: on because I went this a coincidence, now just purely
Speaker 1: a coincidence. So I was looking for something I just
Speaker 1: couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. The clip
Speaker 1: that you were talking Devon was talking about on his
Speaker 1: show and he was talking about here. I was finding it,
Speaker 1: but it was in short form. So we're gonna go
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper because on his podcast he was
Speaker 1: talking about the WWEE CW revival and how everything that
Speaker 1: was going on behind the scenes with that. So this
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna watch. You pop in at the
Speaker 1: end of it, but we're gonna watch Dreamer and Sam
Speaker 1: and versus the Dudley's from One night Stand. Now you
Speaker 1: have a great spot in it that we're gonna build to.
Speaker 1: Oh right, right, right, I know what this is. Yes,
Speaker 1: So this is the main event of One night Stand
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and uh, it's just hearing what
Speaker 1: Devon had to say about everybody coming in and all that.
Speaker 1: I just I found it remarkable. So that's why we'll
Speaker 1: be watching that this week. It's a little a little long.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to sit through some uh some some
Speaker 1: talking for a few minutes to get to the action,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless that's going to be the watch along. So
Speaker 1: we'll work backwards on Wednesday. This is what we have
Speaker 1: two really interesting side topics here, things that will likely
Speaker 1: disappear in the next twenty years. Well, let's one of
Speaker 1: them is wearing a mask. I think this list might
Speaker 1: have been compiled before the masks okay, but hopefully that'll
Speaker 1: be gone by next year. But this is fascinating. As
Speaker 1: we run down the list of some of the stuff,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to say, how are we going
Speaker 1: to live without this? And I just thought this was
Speaker 1: very interesting. But then how about this one. We're going
Speaker 1: to kick off our extras for the week with fifteen
Speaker 1: of the hardest would you rather questions? Like maybe ever?
Speaker 1: Because that's what the neighbors are. Wow, the name of
Speaker 1: the artile, but they are of the sexual nature. Oh
Speaker 1: so they're a little saucy. Okay, Well, saucy is my
Speaker 1: middle name. So let's get it going. I thought your
Speaker 1: middle name was Jonie. I really don't have a middle name. Okay,
Speaker 1: I asked my mother, why didn't I have a middle name? Scouse,
Speaker 1: I don't know no middle name of my birth certificate,
Speaker 1: no middle name. I thought danger was your middle name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is my middle name. I thought Joni was the
Speaker 1: first female name that in my head. No, no middle
Speaker 1: name for me. Oh my Goshreme extreme my middle name.
Speaker 1: I should have said that. Why did I go for extreme?
Speaker 1: I said, you're not as smart as me. That's why
Speaker 1: you're so you're the queen. I'm just a peasant. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean anything else for me? It's at Chad, E
Speaker 1: and B. On Twitter and Instagram. I posted the Herbie
Speaker 1: picture I took at my hotel in Disney World, and
Speaker 1: the Herbie account liked it on Instagram. So I did
Speaker 1: something right on Instagram for once. Interesting. Okay, well that's
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Speaker 1: When they acknowledged me, and then I told them to
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Speaker 1: they stopped answering, and I was like, okay, Skittle's onto you,
Speaker 1: which I jumped on into that one too. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we should do a Skittle's taste test. Yeah, that's when
Speaker 1: I said, oh, Skittle should send us the product, and
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Speaker 1: you will be seeing them a little bit more often,
Speaker 1: I think in some some interesting places, so shall see.
Speaker 1: But that's all I get. All right across the board
Speaker 1: for me. As always, you can find me at ECWDVA
Speaker 1: Francine very active on Twitter, not so much on Instagram
Speaker 1: once in a while. Next weekend, which is April seventeenth,
Speaker 1: it's a Saturday, I will actually be on Facebook live
Speaker 1: at two pm for signs by Superstar. I will have
Speaker 1: ring worn clothing, I will be doing costume changes. I
Speaker 1: will probably be sitting there in another bikini trying to
Speaker 1: sell it right off my body. And I'll have an
Speaker 1: item that I've never sold in this this way before,
Speaker 1: and I'm limited to twelve of them, so first come,
Speaker 1: first serve. I'm not going to say it, you'll have
Speaker 1: to tune in see what it is. But that again
Speaker 1: is at two pm April seventeenth, Saturday, signed by Superstars
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