1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calai. Here's cal. 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: A nineteen year old duck hunter in Wisconsin, says he 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: and his hunting buddies were surrounded by wolves last weekend, 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: as he was forced to kill one with his twelve 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: gage shotgun. Chase Meltin told local outlet wjf W that 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: he and his friends had set up their blind and 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: decoys at a spot near Saint Germain and we're waiting 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: for the ducks to arrive. But as daylight started to break, 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: one of Melton's hunting partners saw what he thought was 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: a deer. When Meltain looked closer, he realized the silhouetted 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: animal was actually a wolf. Melton and his friends tried 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: to make noise to scare the canines away, but they 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: didn't budge. One got within five yards of the trio, 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: and another nearby hunter told local media that he saw 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: fire five wolves around the blind and four more in 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: the area. Melton kept as cool until one of the 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: wolves came towards them and didn't stop. The young hunter 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: says he didn't want to shoot the wolf, but he 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: felt like he and his friends were in danger, so 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: he took his shotgun loaded with waterfowl shot I'm assuming 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: steal number twos eh maybe and hit the wolf in 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the face at close range. The Wisconsin dn R confirmed 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: in an email with meat Eater that Meltain killed the 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: wolf and called game wardens right away. Biologists arrived on 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: the scene later that morning, and they say the investigation 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: is ongoing. Since wolves are still listed as federally endangered 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, that investigation will involve the US Fish and 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Wildlife Service and will let you know if we hear 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: any updates. Meanwhile, the incident has sparked quite a debate 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: among outdoor folks in Wisconsin, some of which you can 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: see for yourself in the comments section of this article 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: over at the meat eater dot com. Wisconsin deer hunters 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: aren't happy with how wolves are being managed in their state, 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: and many blame wolves for load deer numbers up nor 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: What's more, twenty hunting dogs have been killed by wolves 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: so far this year, and another seven have been injured. 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: The DNR estimates that there are nearly one thousand wolves 39 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, the majority of which are located in the 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: northern third of the state. The agency says they don't 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: have any records of a wolf killing or injuring a person, 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: though they frequently kill livestock and pets. This week we've 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: got noises, elections, inde or near death experience, and so 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: much more. But first I'm going to tell you about 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: my week, and my week well, it's interesting as always. 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Last night I attended a political event highlighting the value 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: of Montana's stream access law. A panel of speakers with 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: various ties and viewpoints to stream access spoke, and then 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: in an ideal world, we'd have had all candidates running 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: for office show up and reassure us that Montana's stream 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: access law is something that is so valuable to voters 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: in my mind, and tourists who spend money with Montana 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: businesses that fear not stream access is not a bargaining chip. 54 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: But instead of that happening, only the Democratic Canada's showed up, 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: which is great that they took advantage of this opportunity 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: because it is such kind of like a ride or 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: die Montana issue, But it greatly frustrates me that we 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: didn't get everybody there. Now to give you some inside 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Montana perspective on the politics in the state. By and large, 60 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: our Democrats are fairly conservative, and although the Republican Party 61 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: platform clearly states that the Montana Republican Party supports relinquishing 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: federally managed public lands to the states in order to 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: secure statehood equality and provide for better management of public lands, 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: we support the granting of federally managed public lands to 65 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: the state and development of a transition plan for the 66 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: timely and orderly transfer. Any lands transferred from the federal 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: government to the state shall be administered for the purpose 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: in which they are conveyed, while maintaining public access and usage. 69 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: We support the release of expired wilderness study areas. We 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: support maintaining and increasing access within federal lands in Montana. 71 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Even though that's the Republican Party platform, most Montana Republicans 72 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: know that the overwhelming majority of Montanas do not support 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: land transfer and hold our federally managed public lands as 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: one of our greatest assets. In fact, increasingly so, as 75 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: everything else in the state has gotten so damned expensive 76 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: that us normal Montana kids are basically only going to 77 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: have federally managed public lands. It's a don't mess with 78 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: this type of issue in the state, and I gotta say, unfortunately, 79 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of Republicans trying to increase 80 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: access to federal lands through corner crossing, which would be 81 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: like the easiest of the low hanging fruit if they 82 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: were serious about that part of the Republican platform too. 83 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Now that being said, the vast majority of Republicans in 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: the state, even though that's part of the Republican platform, 85 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: they do not push that issue because it's just a 86 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: non starter with again, the overwhelming majority of voters in 87 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: this state. Right How they justify living under that platform, 88 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it kind of like having a 89 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: dearly loved, well intentioned, charitable, yet kind of racist old 90 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: person in your family where you occasionally have to say, hey, 91 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: ignore them. They're truly quite nice, they love everybody. They 92 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: just come from an age where they can't not use 93 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: certain racist colloquialisms. I don't know. I do know that 94 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: there's an example out there. Our incumbent United States Representative 95 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Zinki did break quite famously with the Republican Party 96 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: over the inclusion of that land transfer language in the 97 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Republican Party platform, which is a very classy thing to do. 98 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: So that example does exist. Out there. But to go 99 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: back to last night, I was impressed with all the speakers. 100 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: They did a great job. In particular, there's a gentleman 101 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: there who did take the time to remind everybody that 102 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: even if you weren't going to vote for somebody who 103 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: was there last night, it's your job to hold your 104 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: elected officials accountable, whether they're a Democrat or Republican, an 105 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: independent or whatever. Our job is to hold those people accountable, 106 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: to get them to vote correctly, to act correctly in 107 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: our best interests. And that's whether you vote for them 108 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: or not after election day, right, So that is something 109 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: worth bringing up. I'm going to keep bringing it up. 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Our job never ends gang whether you vote for him 111 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: or not. The onus is on us to call rite 112 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: in and say, hey, this is what's important. You better 113 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: act accordingly. Moving on to the noise complaint desk. If 114 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: you've ever felt like our modern world is just too noisy, 115 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: you're not alone. Killer whales are with you. A new 116 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: study published in the scientific journal Global Change Biology has 117 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: found that vessel noise can significantly hamper a killer whale's 118 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: ability to find and capture food. Orcas, which is the 119 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: more friendly name for killer whales use echolocation to see 120 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: their prey. This is the same biological technology that bats 121 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: used to fly in the dark. They emit high frequency clicks, 122 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: and that sound bounces off objects and tells the whales 123 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: where they are located. Scientists wanted to know whether the 124 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: rumble and churn from ocean going vessels might disrupt this ability. 125 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: Not surprisingly, it does. They attached sensors to the whales 126 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: that recorded their movements as well as the sounds the 127 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: whales made and heard. For every one decibel increase in 128 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: maximum noise level, there is a four percent increase in 129 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: the odds of searching for prey by both sexes, a 130 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: fifty eight percent decrease in the odds of pursuit by females, 131 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: in a twelve and a half percent decrease in the 132 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: odds of prey capture by both sexes. In other words, 133 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: the noisier the ocean got, the more difficult it was 134 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: for the whales to capture prey. Females with calves tended 135 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: to delay hunting until the ocean quieted down, while males 136 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: tried to push through the noise but weren't as successful. 137 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: This is obviously a bigger problem in areas with high 138 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: boat traffic, but whales often hunt near the coast where 139 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: these boats also travel. Whether any regulatory changes occur as 140 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: the result of this study is unlikely, but it offers 141 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: another important data point as we work to live alongside 142 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: the animals that make the natural world so darn cool. 143 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: Moving on to the solar desk. A few months ago, 144 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: I told you about a new proposal by the Bureau 145 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: of Land Management to open up more acreage to solar 146 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: farms and streamline the approval process. Many of you express 147 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: concern about this proposal because solar panels aren't great wildlife habitat. 148 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: You wondered about the location of these farms and whether 149 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: they would interfere with wild species or migration routes. We 150 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: can speculate about this all day, but the only way 151 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: we're going to know or have a chance to impact 152 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: the situation is by keeping an eye on the BLM. 153 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: The good news is that as a federal agency, they 154 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: have to give the public notice about much of what 155 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: they do. Last week, that's exactly what the BLM did. 156 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: They submitted for public comment a rule that would set 157 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: aside just over eleven five hundred acres in Lapause County 158 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: in western Arizona for three solar farm projects. The Scoro 159 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: Solar Project would take up about four thousand acres, the 160 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Parker Solar Project would take up about two thousand acres, 161 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: and the Eagle Eyed Solar Project would take up about 162 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: fifty six hundred acres. Under this rule, these acres will 163 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: be segregated from the operation of public land laws. This 164 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: basically means the BLM won't be approving any new uses 165 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: for the next two years while they study whether or 166 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: not these areas would make good solar farms. Whether or 167 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: not hunt and anglers should support or repose these solar 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: farms is best determined by the people who live there. 169 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Looking at satellite images of these areas, they appear to 170 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: be a desert environment located near Interstate ten. They aren't 171 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the kind of lush habitat hunters and anglers worry will 172 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: be covered with solar panels. But then again, I don't 173 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: live there. Local residents probably know something I don't. This 174 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: county is home to part of the Kafa and Sebela 175 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: National Wildlife Refuges. Maybe these solar farms will harm the 176 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: wildlife in these areas. Maybe not. But if you live 177 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: in Lapause County. You'll want to weigh in. We'll post 178 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: a link over at the meat eater dot com forward 179 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: slash col where you can comment. Moving on to the 180 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: pandemic desk. Whitetail seasons are ramping up in states across 181 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: the country, but Indiana is seeing an unusually high number 182 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: of dead deer, and not from arrows or bullets. The 183 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: Indiana Department of Natural Resources reports that a quote significant 184 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: EHD event is affecting Allen, Porter, and Wabash Counties. EHD 185 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: stands for epizootic camorrhagic disease, as a viral disease that 186 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: mainly affects whitetail. Is most often found in Midwestern states 187 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: and is spread by a biting insect called imidge. Now 188 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: this gets conflated with blue tongue all the time. EHD 189 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: and blue tongue are slightly different. Real close cases pop 190 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: up in Indiana every year, but some outbreaks are more 191 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: severe than others. As of the middle of last month, 192 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the DNR had received one hundred and three reports of 193 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: dead or sick deer in Allen County, two hundred and 194 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: seventy nine reports in Porter County, and one hundred and 195 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: twenty two reports in Wabash County. The problem has gotten 196 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: so bad that the DNR has decided to lower the 197 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: bonus antlerless deer quotas from two to one in the 198 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: affected counties to offset the losses from EHD. In Porter County, 199 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: the Northwest Indiana Paddling Association actually called off a canoe 200 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: trip on the east branch of the Little Calumet River 201 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: because event organizers had found dozens of deer carcasses along 202 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the river. Deer that can train EHD often have a fever, 203 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: so they seek water to drink and try to cool off. 204 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: They're often found floating in rivers and lakes, and hunters 205 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: that kill deer with EHD often do so near water. 206 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: Biologists with the DNR are quick to point out that 207 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: even though this year's outbreak in these counties is bad, 208 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: it's not as bad as a twenty twenty two outbreak 209 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: in Franklin County. That year, the agency received three hundred 210 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: and forty five reports of sick or dead deer in 211 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: a county with only twenty three thousand residents. After the 212 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: deer season was over, the DNR estimated a seventy percent 213 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: reduction in the country's deer population, with EHD responsible for 214 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: about sixty percent of the reduction. The good news is 215 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: that deer populations can bounce back from these outbreaks, especially 216 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: with some timely management decisions. Hunters also don't have to 217 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: worry about contracting EHD from an infected deer, so the 218 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: meat is still edible. Reports of infections usually die down 219 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: as the weather gets colder, in the insects that spread 220 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: the virus die big. Thanks to listener Harry Wainwright for 221 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: sending us that story. Moving on to the bear attack Desk, 222 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: a third archery hunter this big game season has been 223 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: attacked by a grizzly bear, this time in Wyoming. The 224 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys State Daily reports that Land and Clement and some 225 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: friends were hunting elk in a remote area of the 226 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: Upper Green River basin last week. Clement had set up 227 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: near a large boulder where he believed the elk might 228 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: walk by within bow range. He'd only been sitting there 229 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: a few minutes when he heard and saw three bears 230 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: coming down the hill from above him. They hadn't smelled 231 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: or seen him, and so the thirty one year old 232 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: hoped the sow and two cubs would keep walking past. 233 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: They almost did. The bears were only about ten yards 234 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: away and still hadn't seen him. Clement had his ten 235 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: millimeter glock pistol unholstered and pointed towards the bears, but 236 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: he didn't fire because he wasn't sure if the bears 237 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: would attack. Unfortunately, even having the weapon trained at the 238 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: bear before it charged wasn't enough to stop it. The 239 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: sow charged Clement and sank her teeth into his left thigh. 240 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: He managed to get off a few rounds as the 241 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: bear charged, but as gripped his leg and began to 242 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: shake him like a rag doll, he realized his pistol 243 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: wasn't firing. It had jammed, and the bear was still alive. Incredibly, 244 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: Clement told the Cowboys State Daily that he managed to 245 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: clear the jam even with the six hundred pound animal 246 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: on top of him. Once I cleared the jam, I 247 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: put the gun as close to its head as I 248 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: could and shot a couple more times. He said, it 249 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: let go and rolled off me. I knew that I 250 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: had killed that bear. With the bear dead and the 251 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: adrenaline still pumping, Clement staggered down the mountain, calling for help. 252 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: His hunting buddies weren't far away, and before long one 253 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: of them found him leaning against a tree. They helped 254 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: him walk for more than a mile before they reached 255 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: a place where he could get into a side by side. 256 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: He was treated at the Pinedale Clinic and is expected 257 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: to make a full recovery. Clement, who is from North 258 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Georgia but travels to Wyoming frequently to hunt, hasn't had 259 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: great luck with gris. In a close encounter during another hunt, 260 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: he says a griz came within fifteen yards of him 261 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: and looked him right in the eyes. It either wasn't 262 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: scared enough to attack or had better things to do, 263 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: because it ran away. In a different incident, Clement and 264 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: his father were charged by grizzly as they were walking 265 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: out from a hunt and knocked Clement to the ground, 266 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: but kept running and didn't come back. To have three 267 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: close encounters with adult grizzlies might sound unlucky, but there's 268 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: a glass half full way to look at this. Clement 269 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: is still alive after all three incidents, and he has 270 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: even more reasons to believe he has some kind of 271 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: divine protection. As he was stumbling down the mountain after 272 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: his latest attack, He looked down at his handgun and 273 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: realized it had jammed again, which means he got a 274 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: couple lucky rounds out in between his jams. He might 275 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: want to invest in a different handgun moving forward, but 276 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: he can see why he thinks that luck is on 277 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: his side. All three bear attacks on archery hunters this 278 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: year have followed a similar storyline. In Idaho, a hunter 279 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: was bitten by a grizz but only sustained non life 280 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: threatening injuries after he and his hunting partner killed it 281 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: with their handguns. Same story in Montana, where two hunters 282 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: shot and killed a sow and injured a cub with 283 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: pistol rounds after the adult female charged him. Hard to say, gang, 284 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: whether or not bear spray would have been a better choice, 285 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: or standing up and making sure that those bears knew 286 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: you were there as soon as you saw him hindsight, 287 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: which is always twenty twenty. Moving on to an extended 288 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: edition of the mail Bag Desk. Lots of good emails 289 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: from listeners this week, and I wanted to highlight a 290 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: couple first. Scott Baker wrote in with some thoughts on 291 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: the new Michigan deer hunting rules. We covered last week 292 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: for those who didn't listen, the Natural Resources Commission for 293 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: the Minton State decided to prohibit hunters in the youth 294 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: and disabled hunting seasons from taking antler deer, but Scott 295 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: doesn't by their reasoning. He points out that in twenty 296 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: twenty three, only five one hundred and thirty three bucks 297 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: were taken during the Youth, Liberty and Independence hunts, which 298 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: represents just three point three percent of the total bucks 299 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: harvested across Michigan. The idea that making this change would 300 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: increase the dough harvest, which is what the commission hoped 301 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: to do, seems a little less reasonable in the light 302 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: of these numbers. The rule might not impact the deer herd, 303 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: but Syott believes it will impact the people these hunts 304 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: were designed to help. He writes, quote for Liberty and 305 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: Independence hunters, many are veterans dealing with post war physical 306 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: or mental injuries, and the ability to harvest a buck 307 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: can be a deeply meaningful experience. For young, mentored hunters, 308 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: being able to shoot a buck can create lifelong memories 309 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: and inspire a passion for the outdoors and wildlife conservation. 310 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: As a father of three, this was a big blow 311 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: to the younger hunters in our family, none of which 312 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: have begged a trophy buck during the youth season. Big 313 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: thanks to Scott for taking the time to write in 314 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: and share his thoughts. If you live in Michigan and 315 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: have a different take, feel free to write in askcall 316 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: at the meeater dot com. Listener Justin Young wrote in 317 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: with some concerning news out of Illinois. A real estate 318 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: developer in the town of Alton is pushing to transform 319 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: the town's Mississippi riverfront into a tourist destination, complete with 320 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: kayak rentals, bike paths, restaurants, and of course, pickleball courts. 321 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: That probably doesn't sound too bad for residents of the 322 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: Saint Louis suburb, but the developer isn't stopping there. Leaders 323 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: of the outfit known as Alton Works are pushing the 324 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: federal government to create the Great Rivers National Park along 325 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: the waterway. They say creating a national park along the 326 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: same riverfront they want to develop would drive even more 327 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: investment and growth and turn Alton, Illinois into a real 328 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: tourist destination. Problem is, according to Justin, the plan right 329 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: now would see this national park absorb one hundred and 330 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand acres and one hundred and forty four 331 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: miles of shoreline along the Mississippi, Missouri, and Illinois rivers. 332 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: He says, quote almost every community along the river has 333 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: spoken out against this proposal for the national park. The 334 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: major issue is the loss of hunting and fishing rights 335 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: on the rivers and the already established public land under 336 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: state control. Justin acknowledges that some national parks allow hunting 337 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: and fishing, though most do not, and he's not opposed 338 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: to a national park in general, but he doesn't like 339 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: the idea of a big developer coming in and dictating 340 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: how these acres should be used. Quote. The surrounding communities 341 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: are fearful that our voices will not be heard in 342 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: this matter. We do not want this company to come 343 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: in and raise land prices, take our hunting rights, and 344 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: change our way of life. It's worth noting that, according 345 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: to on X, seventy five of the total four hundred 346 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: and nineteen units managed by the National Park Service allows 347 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: some form of recreational subsistence or tribal hunting. In terms 348 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: of size, However, those seventy five units make up sixty 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: percent of the National Park system. It's unclear right now 350 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: what the regulations would look like in this new national park, 351 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: especially since some of the acres are controlled by the state. 352 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the ins and outs of public land 353 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: hunting in this area, so I'm going to reserve judgment 354 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: until i learn more. But I will say on its 355 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: face that using a federal land designation to make your 356 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: real estate project more profitable does sound like a money 357 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: maker for you. The Alton Works founders, a couple named 358 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Jane and John Simmons, have on their website a photo 359 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: of themselves with Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker, who attended their 360 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: company's ribbon cutting ceremony. If the governor attends your ribbon 361 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: cutting ceremony, you have some serious political influence. We'll see 362 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: if these developers can turn that political influence into a 363 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: national park. But if you like to hunt and fish 364 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: in the Saint Louis area, this is one you'll want 365 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to pay attention to. Big thanks to Justin for sending 366 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: this one in. A few weeks ago, I asked my 367 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota listeners to let me know if they go Upland 368 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: bird hunting and participate in the state's bird hunting Diary initiative. 369 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: This initiative is asking upland hunters to keep detailed logs 370 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: of their observations so the state can have more robust 371 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: information on the bird populations. I'm happy to say that 372 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: listener Mike Eaton answered the call. He went hunting in 373 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: northern Minnesota with a fellow firefighter and new hunter named Bradford. 374 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: Mike said the theme of the weekend was quote fair 375 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: opportunity and minimal success. That describes a lot of upland 376 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: grouse hunting in my experience, but the pair was still 377 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: able to bag a few rough grouse. Mike also sent 378 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: me a copy of the diary he filled out for 379 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: the Minnesota DNR. He recorded where he was, whether the 380 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: land was public or private, his target species, how long 381 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: he hunted, how many times he flushed a bird, how 382 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: old the birds were, and a few other data points. 383 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like it took too much time, and 384 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: when the DNR collects all that info from hunters across 385 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: the state, they'll have a much deeper understanding of how 386 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: upland species are doing. Big Atta Boy goes out to 387 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Mike and Bradford and any other Minnesota hunters who took 388 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: time to give back and make sure the DNR has 389 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: what they need to make good management decisions. Because you 390 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: participated in citizen science, you're going out there anyway and 391 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: you're helping the resource. It's amazing. Join these folks who 392 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: are in the lead right now for a new final 393 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: rise upland bird vest and remember, I'm gonna throw in 394 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: some awesome FHF cal Amo pouches too. Lastly, to circle 395 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: back with a Paul politics related email, and this one 396 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: is about the Montana Stream Access rally. I enjoyed the event, 397 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: but it has me once again grappling with the intersection 398 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: of partisan politics and conservation. Our elected officials obviously have 399 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: a huge impact on conservation, land access, and many other 400 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: issues important to outdoorsmen and women. Politics and these issues 401 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: are not mutually exclusive. However, in today's heated political climate, 402 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: it feels harder and harder to engage friends and family 403 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: in conversations around issues impacting hunters and anglers. People often 404 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: share a common stance on the issues, but as soon 405 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: as political candidates get involved, they shut down. What advice 406 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: do you have for navigating conversations around conservation with other 407 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: passionate outdoor recreationists in a way that is productive but 408 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: doesn't enable politics to be an elephant in the room. 409 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: It's a great question, you know, off and we say 410 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: policy not politics. And the way we lose right is 411 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: by saying, oh, you voted for that person by default 412 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: or de facto you agree with their policy because you've 413 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: voted for them. That's definitely not how it works. We 414 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: can vote for different people. Unfortunately, in my opinion my 415 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: view here, like party line voting is crazy and ineffective 416 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but policies do matter, and 417 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: where you can meet in the middle, even if you're 418 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: diametrically opposed with who to vote for. Right is agreement 419 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: on policy like what should happen, And when we're talking 420 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: about outdoor recreation, hunting, fishing, we agree on so much 421 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: more than we disagree on. And when you part ways 422 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: with whoever you're speaking with, the agreement that you need 423 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: to have Right is like we're going to both lobby 424 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: on behalf of this policy. I or you may come 425 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: at it from a hey, I didn't vote for you, 426 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: but like it or not, you represent me. This is 427 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: an area that I need you to step up on, 428 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: or you're saying, hey, I did vote for you. I 429 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: am in support of you on these other issues. But 430 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: right here you are crossing the line. You're not getting it. 431 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: Do not do this, and that's just kind of like 432 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: the simple fact of how this stuff works. And you 433 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: got to be consistent, and you got to participate. You 434 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: don't weigh in, you can't wrestle. That's all I got 435 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: for you this week. Thank you so much for listening. 436 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: Remember to write in to ask c. A L. That's 437 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: ask Cal at the Meat Eater dot com and let 438 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: me know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 439 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Thanks again, talk to you next week.