1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: through the Tuesday edition of the program. I'll have you 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: know that I am seeing all of your rooster related commentary. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: As we have shared the cost of cost of eggs. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Carol wants me to know that she paid nine to 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: ninety nine for a dozen at a store in Jacksonville, 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Florida this morning. You're being gouged, Carol. The price is 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: down to three fifty five. You should have waited another week. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Gene wants me to know it's illegal to have roosters 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: in Davidson County. Don't know what county you're in. I'm 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: in Williamson County. I just went downstairs. 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Buck. My wife was listening to the show. 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: She said, she's done chicken cooper research, and it actually 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: is kind of expensive when you factor in all the 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: feed and all the roosters and all this stuff. 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: Do you know about the actual canst tell you that 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: it's awesome that Laura has already done chicken coop research 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: though That's what I'm talking about. She is on the ball. 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: She said the chickens are not cheap. The roosters are 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: not cheap. There's lots of organic feed cost roll then, 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: and that having your own eggs not easy. By the way, 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I live in Williamson County. My wife tells me that 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: as long as you have an acre or more, she 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: really has done the research where we live for people 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: out there Franklin Brentwood, just south of Nashville, that you 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: are allowed to have a chicken coop. Now, I am 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: not going to have a chicken coop, and I hope 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: that my neighbors where we are moving are not going to. 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Have chicken coops. 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: Because when we lived in the US Virgin Islands, and 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: I was an attorney in the US Virgin Islands twenty 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: years ago before I have a law license there. I 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: have a law license in my home state of Tennessee, 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: everybody there had roosters and chickens, and those things wake 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: up so early in the morning. And if you live 37 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: in a normal area where there's lots of houses around, everybody, 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: here's your rooster. And so I don't want anybody having 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: roosters really close to me, because it definitely unless you 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of distance between you and your neighbors, everybody, 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: here's your rooster in the morning. 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: You know that we could sell a version of your 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: life story of southern lawyer goes to Caribbean island to 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: practice law and has to deal with being woken up 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: by roosters in the morning. We could sell this like 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: Netflix or something. No problem. I mean, it sounds like 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: a sitcom that was on the CWA ten or fifteen 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: years ago. I still have my law license in the 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: US Virgin Islands. I could decide if I wanted to 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: to just go back to being an island lawyer, which 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: definitely sounds like it would be a streaming service show. 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Probably probably have to be a comedy, but it would 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. And it was not a 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: bad job to have be a Caribbean lawyer. I was 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: at the biggest law firm in the Caribbean. I think 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: we had twelve attorneys. You can think about how like 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: the biggest law firm in the entire Caribbean, any country 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: was twelve attorneys. And so it was kind of a 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: unique experience. You know, people have been asking me, by 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: the way, to give them my assessment of this show. 61 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: The recruit about a new CIA guy recruited in and 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't want I don't like to be I don't 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: like to be such a grouch, but it is just garbage. 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: It's just a really, really bad show. So I tried. 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: For those of you who've asked me, what is my assessment, 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: it is it makes no sense popular hype, I don't. 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: It's Netflix. So how do you know, right, people watch 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: it because it's on Netflix. Well, I like one of the. 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Ten trending shows. I mean, those are legitimately if you 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: get top ten, everybody's watching those shit. 71 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: I think it probably has been at some point, but 72 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: Netflix has so much control over that. I think the 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Tennessee Country Lawyer who goes to the Caribbean is a 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: much better premise for a show personally. So I might 75 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: have to write this. I'll bring you on as a consultant. 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I certainly can be an expert. There's probably 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: not that many people that are experts in that. We 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: got a bunch of stuff that's out there. I mentioned 79 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: that the Trump Zolensky, sorry, the Trump Putin call has ended. 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Buck. 81 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: I believe this would be the first call between anyone 82 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: in Russia, certainly Putin, and anyone in the United States 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: at a high level in what probably I mean did 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Biden ever talk to Putin at all in his whole time. 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: I don't believe. I don't believe. So the team can 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: check us on this. I don't think that Biden and 87 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: Putin ever had direct high level talks about a ceasefire. 88 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: In fact, there's pretty credible reporting from early on, I 89 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: think June of twenty two that Biden, because of Boris 90 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Johnson at the time, shut down an early effort to 91 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: have a ceasefire negotiation. And I'm going into the memory 92 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: banks here, but I think that's right. I think that 93 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: that is totally because the belief was with all of 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: our munitions and all of our training and all of 95 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: our intel. I remember people saying that Ukraine's gonna win 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: in this thing, and winning doesn't mean preventing Russia from 97 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: steamrolling the whole country. It means kicking the Russians out 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: of the territory that they had taken. And that was 99 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: fantasyland stuff. 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Well, lots of people also thought that Putin might get overthrown. 101 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: Remember that was kind of the fantasy land take on this. 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: Oh who you're gonna invade? That means that there's gonna 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: be Vindsey Graham said something insane at one point about Putin. 104 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: I don't remember what it was, you know, maybe the 105 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: zeiling is going to come down on Putin's head or something. 106 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: He said something crazy and I remember this, like, we 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: should take him. You know, I'll find it. But yes, 108 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: there was that moment A couple of things that I 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: want to hit here. 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: You have been just completely destroying the idea that there's 111 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: going to be anything in this. But there has been 112 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: a great deal of discussion about Trump releasing the remainder. 113 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: Of the JFK files. What did he say? Lindsey Graham 114 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: said on TV that we should take him out. We 115 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: should take Putin out. I remember that, now, Yeah, that's insane. 116 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: This was insane. He actually said that, So anyway I 117 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: remembered it, I'm like, oh my god, Lindsay Graham, you know, 118 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: never seen a war. He didn't want somebody else. 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: I think he said it on Fox News, didn't he 120 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: because it went megaviral beyond that, like, hey, we should 121 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and kill Vladimir Putin. 122 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: But there was someone in it. To be fair, it 123 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: was someone in Russia should take this guy out. But 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: imagine if Putin said somebody in America should take out 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: the US president. I mean, you know this is this 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: was reckless, stupid stuff. But anyway, sorry, it's gold files. 127 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: Let's well, it was going to be. 128 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: The whole argument was, oh, this is somehow going to 129 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: blow up in Vladimir Putin's face. Oh he's going to 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: lose his power. That was sort of the fever dream 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: of many people out there early in this war. 132 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: That clearly is not going to happen. 133 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: As a result, we now have a conversation which is 134 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: making the idea of a ceasefire increasingly likely, and I 135 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: am optimistic that potentially in the next days or so 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: we might be able to get one. But yes, Trump 137 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: is going to release supposedly today, the remainder of the 138 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: JFK files. 139 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: Buck. 140 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: What I have seen is that there are eighty thousand 141 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: pages of these files that have not yet been public. 142 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: This is Trump announcing that he is going to release them. 143 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: This was yesterday afternoon at the Kennedy Center Cut sixteen. 144 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: We are tomorrow announcing and giving all. 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: Of the Kennedy files. So people have been waiting for 146 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: decades for this, and I've instructed my people that are responsible, 147 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: Lots of different people put together by Telsea Gabbert and 148 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: that's going to be released tomorrow. 149 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Buck, go ahead and ruin everybody's fever dreams out 150 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: there in the conspiracy universe. It will there be anything newsworthy, 151 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: noteworthy of any kind of significant detail that comes out 152 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: in these documents. In your opinion, it is my astute 153 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: assessment that these documents will come out and that it 154 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: will be a nothing burger with cheese and those gross 155 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: pickles that they put on burger, sometimes the little like 156 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: slivers of pickles. I don't want pickles on my burger. 157 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why anybody wants pickles on their burger. 158 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: It will be that it'll be the worst kind of 159 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: nothing burger, if that is my belief. If I am wrong, 160 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: perhaps I'll have to eat a burger with these pickles 161 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: on it as my way of eating humble pie. I 162 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: think that it's very unlikely that anything. This is what 163 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I always tell people. 164 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: If it was really good, we would either already know 165 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: because it would have leaked, or somebody would have talked 166 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: about it, or it would already have been so destroyed 167 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: and buried that it's not like you can just open 168 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: the files and it's in there. Right. This is what 169 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: I tell people about Epstein stuff too. It's not that 170 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: I don't think I know there was a huge Epstein 171 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: can I know there was a lot of stuff going 172 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: on there that we haven't still been told about or 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: been able to prove in public. But a lot of 174 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: the stuff has been destroyed. That's the whole point, right, 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: It's you know, they're not leaving the evidence out there, like, hey, 176 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: here's the huge conspiracy that goes to the top of 177 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: the power structure of like the global elites. They're not 178 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: going to keep that stuff on the shelf. They don't 179 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: have it marked with a little highlighter. So I think 180 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: it's very unlie. Well then, but now here's the think 181 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: like people are gonna say, oh, but this gives us 182 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: so much more context. And you know, the people that 183 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: are obsessed with the JFK stuff, they'll find things in 184 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: this to say, oh, that's we know so much more now. 185 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: But is there going to be a bombshell? No bombshell? Well, 186 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: I mean, CIA didn't kill Kennedy, is what you're not 187 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: going to mean. That's the thing. The CIA didn't actually 188 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: kill Kennedy, believe it or not. There's also as. 189 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: The CIA guy oh oh oh, it's exactly what you 190 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: would say. Also, there's not going to be a written 191 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: confession from j Edgar Hoover saying, hey, it was me, 192 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: I ordered the entire thing. Uh okay, why would this 193 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: stuff have maimed classified until now? 194 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: That's always accept your argument. I mean a very good question. 195 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: Why why would Because to me, as just a normal 196 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: guy out there, my thought whenever things are classified is 197 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: they're trying to hide something. So it's been sixty two 198 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: years or whatever the math is on this, why not 199 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: just have it public. 200 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: Clay a friend of mine who you know, who wrote 201 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: a book on World War two naval warfare. If the 202 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: CIA wanted to make sure if there's anything that is 203 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: OSS related, it could still have class So you can't 204 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: write about the OSS unless you're gonna go through the 205 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 2: review eight years later. Yeah, I mean we're gonna be 206 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: on one hundred years before you know it, and there's 207 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: still classified stuff about the OSS. There's still classified stuff 208 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: about the Korean War. I mean there's classified You sit there, 209 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: you go, I'm pretty sure all the informants are dead. 210 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: If they're not, we definitely need to know about them 211 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: because I want to drink whatever they're drinking. So you know, 212 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: this is a part of it is just government bureaucracy. 213 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: I think a part of it also is they don't 214 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: you know that they want to there's some things where 215 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: they want to avoid embarrassment. But yeah, the thing is 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: that there's anything redacted in these files, well then that's 217 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: just going to make the conspiracy folks get even more 218 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: fire and understandably so I would agree with them. If 219 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: there's anything that's still redacted, you'd say, well, this is 220 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: really funky. But yeah, I think it's the government likes 221 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: to avoid embarrassment in different ways. When I say the government, 222 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: I mean agencies. When you think of these agencies like 223 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: their individual brands, they think of themselves like a company. 224 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: You know, people call the CIA the company, but they 225 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: think of themselves like, you know, they have a reputation. 226 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: So we'd say that government's really more the FBI, state 227 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: police agencies, et cetera, et cetera. So that's where I 228 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: think you may find some interesting stuff, but nothing. I 229 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: promise you guys, there's not going to be some note 230 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: in there from like the I directed. It's like Jack 231 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: Ruby was our guy all along. That would be spectacular. 232 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: But I do think a lot of people out I 233 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: mean meaning that we finally get some form of resolution. 234 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: The fact that all of this has remained classified for 235 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: so long, I think for regular people, and I would 236 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: put myself in the regular people category here makes us 237 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: feel like something is being hidden that otherwise should have 238 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: been out there. But the eighty thousand pages in theory 239 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: are going to be released today, and. 240 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: I think it would be really interesting. 241 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't have any My thing is, 242 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: why keep it classified for sixty some odd years if 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: there is nothing of any substance at all that has 244 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: remained hidden. That's my biggest question about it. 245 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: In general. 246 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: It just doesn't add up that it would all be 247 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: totally boring if they have kept it covered up for 248 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,119 Speaker 1: this long. So I hope there's some at least historical 249 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: record that comes out and is somewhat interesting or intriguing. 250 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: I hope that tomorrow or Thursday, after people have had 251 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to start to go through some of this, 252 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: that we could come on the show and say, oh, 253 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: this is intriguing, let's have a conversation about this. 254 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me as well that there have been 255 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: other assassinations and attempted assassinations of US presidents in the past, 256 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: and there's just this there's an acceptance like it was 257 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: some crazy person. Yeah it was, you know, it was 258 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: some job seeker. In one game, it was some anarchist. 259 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: But in this case with Kennedy, and I think it's 260 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: in part because of the Oliver Stone movie and it 261 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: just has turned into this like Hollywood cause and or 262 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, Hollywood fascination, and I just think, you know, 263 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: come on, it's never as interesting as we want it 264 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: to be. 265 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Look, we dodged, legitimately basically one of the biggest bullets 266 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: in American political history on July thirteenth and Butler pencil. 267 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Everyone living today would die with the majority of Americans 268 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: for the next fifty sixty eighty hundred years refusing to 269 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: believe that that. 270 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: Lunatic was a loan gunman. 271 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: And by the way, we still don't know anything about 272 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: that guy. 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Clay, 316 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was possible for me to think 317 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: that Trump was doing a better job or was more 318 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: brilliant than he is. But then he comes out and 319 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: blows away all expectations by letting it be known that, 320 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: like me, he does not like Hamilton. This is seventeen. 321 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: He does not like the Broadway play Hamilton very much. 322 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: Play seventeen. 323 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: I'd say, come here and see a show I was 324 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: never a big fan of. 325 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: I never liked. 326 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Hamilton very much, and I. 327 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: Never liked it. 328 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: But we are gonna have some really good shows. I 329 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: would say this, come here and watch it, and you'll 330 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: see over a period of time it'll improve very greatly physically, 331 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: and we're gonna get some very good shows. The thing 332 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: that does well a Broadway hits, and we have some 333 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: beauty I guess we have Name Is Coming, and we 334 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: have some others. But the Broadway hits have done very well. 335 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna spend some time. We have a good board. 336 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: In the meantime, we're running the country, and we're running 337 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: it well. 338 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: All right. That was Trump at the Kennedy Center at Claire. 339 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: I didn't know he could be more amazing, But like me, 340 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: he realizes Hamilton is trash. 341 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I will say this is a shot from Trump because 342 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: he actually likes musicals. 343 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: He really likes Late Miz. 344 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: He likes Phantom of the Opera like this, isn't just 345 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: me pointing out the truth, which is all musicals are 346 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: overrated and awful, and most men who go to them 347 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: are only going so their wives their girlfriends will sleep 348 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: with them, which is the truth. 349 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: But Trump really likes them. 350 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: So this is a shot across the bout Lynn Manuel Miranda. 351 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: You know, investing a portion of your life savings in 352 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: gold isn't just a smart investment, but it's also a 353 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: smart way to hedge against inflation. 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The blood and 381 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: treasure that both Ukraine and Russia have been spending in 382 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: this war would be better spent on the needs of 383 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: their people. Conflict should have never started and should have 384 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: ended long ago with sincere and good faith piece efforts. Again, 385 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm reading from the statement. The leaders agreed the movement 386 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure cease fire, 387 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime 388 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: ceasefire in the Black Sea, full cease fire and permanent peace. 389 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: These negotiations will begin immediately. In the Middle East, the 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: leader spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region 391 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: of potential cooperation to prevent future conflict. They further discussed 392 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will 393 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application. The 394 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: two leaders shared the view Iran should never be in 395 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: a position to destroy Israel, and the two leaders agreed 396 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the US 397 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: and Russia has huge upside, including enormous economic deals and 398 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved. That is the 399 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: statement that was just released on the call between Putin 400 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: and Trump. Cleaning up a little bit earlier, we were 401 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: talking about when was the last time Biden talked Biden 402 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: had not spoken into Putin since the invasion of Ukraine. 403 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: He did speak to him in twenty twenty one. Just 404 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: to FYI we were asking, I was whether they had 405 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: spoken while Biden was in office. 406 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: It happened in twenty twenty one. Buck. 407 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: I think all of that is moving in a very 408 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: favorable direction. I guess the question out here, and again 409 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: that is a statement we just released that was just 410 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: released by the White House. 411 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: If Trump is able to actually. 412 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Get peace in Ukraine, wouldn't he deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? 413 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: Like in an honest, legitimate world. Wouldn't this be the 414 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: very definition of what a mediator and or leader who 415 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: was not directly involved in the conflict should receive for 416 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: ending a conflict of this significance. 417 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, But the Nobel Peace Prize has gone 418 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: to Barack Obama for doing nothing. I think Yaser Erafat 419 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: got it at one point. You look at the people 420 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: who have gotten the Nobel Peace and it has unfortunately 421 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: become a bit of a bit of a political joke 422 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. So I know your your 423 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: point is well taken, which is that this would be 424 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: a momentous, momentous diplomatic win and not just a win 425 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: for humanity. I mean truly when you I don't know 426 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: how many of you have watched, there's a lot of 427 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: video out there about what's going on on the Ukraine 428 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: Russia front and what these soldiers are going through. It 429 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: is trench warfare. They have drones that are flying in 430 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: at them and blowing people up. Every day, They've got 431 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: artillery rounds blowing up all around. I mean, it's you've 432 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: got guys that are storming trenches and you know, machine 433 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: gunning each other at close range. Like it's horrible stuff 434 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: that's happening day in and day out over there. And 435 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: bringing this to an end, it would be such a win. 436 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: And it's very frustrating, is even the right word. It's 437 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: it's grotesque when you see these people that are saying, 438 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: but Trump is just throwing in the towel, what do 439 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: these people think is going to happen? You know, at 440 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: some point it feels like the Slava Ukrainian people really 441 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: just feel like if they string this thing out long enough, 442 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: maybe we'll have American sent over there to do the 443 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: fighting for them, which is an absolute red line for you, 444 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: for me, and I know for everybody listening. I mean, 445 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: that's just completely beyond the pale. We should not lose 446 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: a single American life, a single American finger fighting over 447 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: who's in control of the eastern portion of Ukraine. And 448 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: in the meantime, there's nothing to be gained in the 449 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: long run for Ukraine continuing to fight and lose its 450 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: entire able bodied male population, when there's the possibility that 451 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: you could still have a country that is functioning, a 452 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: country that has a homeland for the Ukrainian people, and 453 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't be in the midst of a horrible and bloody war. 454 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: Like I said, Clay, it used to be that the 455 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: Democrats were supposedly the peace party. They were really the 456 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: under America during time of war party. That's actually more accurate. 457 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: But they would at least go through the motions of 458 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: pretending that they didn't want, you know, don't go after 459 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: Saddam in the first war, don't go after Saddam in 460 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: the second ward. Don't you know. They were the ones 461 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: that were saying, we and maybe they're right about the 462 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: second one, but we shouldn't be fighting these wars, except 463 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: when it comes to wars like this where there's some 464 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: humanitarian interest and no real American interest at stake. So 465 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: I think that if Trump was able to pull this off, 466 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: it's a huge win all around. And again it brings 467 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: us back to yes, Trump out there negotiating to end 468 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: wars and stop bloodshed, just like Hitler would have done. 469 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: I would also point out if we could get a ceasefire, 470 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: the price of gas would drop immediately in a significant fashion. 471 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: Of the Trump sees that he knows all this stuff 472 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: with Russia has hurt us economically, probably in the West, 473 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: more than it's her Russia. Russia doesn't really care. 474 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: And even the opening back up of the Black Sea 475 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: would dramatically decrease prices for a variety of goods, including 476 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: is am. I correct that Ukraine is one of the 477 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: largest wheat producing countries in the world, and that you know, 478 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, the amount of goods that the grain is 479 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: used to produce has also driven up the cost. And 480 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: I've been told that because of the shipping cost associated 481 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: with the dangers of the Black Sea. The other thing 482 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: is Trump has attacked the huties in the Red Sea area, 483 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: right that is also driven up the cost of goods 484 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: being shipped around the world. So while there is a 485 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: great focus on tariffs and what the impact of the 486 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: cost of goods could be for tariffs, I think in 487 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: Trump's internal calculation, he is seeing the ending of the 488 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: wars to the extent that we can keep them ended. 489 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: And I know they reignited right now in the Middle East, 490 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: but if you could end the war in Ukraine this summer, 491 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: I think you would see a massive deflationary movement on 492 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: a variety of the price of goods, in particular oil 493 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: and gas. 494 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: You know, there is there is a historical mirror image 495 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: here perhaps, or there's echoes of when Reagan came into office. 496 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: Vulkar had to tighten things, tighten things at a level 497 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: that way beyond what we've seen so far in terms 498 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: of how high rates had to go. And yeah, I 499 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: mean there was essentially a recession. Reagan more or less 500 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: inherited that recession. But you had to you had to 501 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: get the you know, you had to clear the system out, 502 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: you had to get things under control, and there was 503 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of economic pain that the country had 504 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: to go through early on, and then twenty years of 505 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: boom and prosperity afterwards. Right, So, if this is a 506 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: Reagan moment for Trump on the economy, and I think 507 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: there are a lot of reasons to believe that it 508 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: could be and that it will be. The historical analogy 509 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: here is very favorable. But it might take a year, 510 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: eighteen months something like that for things to really get 511 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: cooking the way they would like them to. You cannot 512 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: fix a problem that others refuse to fix. And expect 513 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: that there's not going to be some discomfort along the way, 514 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: because why wouldn't they fix it if that wasn't the case. 515 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: This is, though, a very good sign. I think it's 516 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: hard to spin it as a bad sign. It'll be 517 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see what the larger media ecosystem says about this. Remember, 518 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine has effectively already agreed to a thirty day ceasefire, 519 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: and it sounds like Russia is willing to potentially get 520 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: involved as well. 521 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: Let's say, let's just go through a best case scenario 522 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 2: here for those of us who are adults, and then 523 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the Libs will say and how 524 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: they'll play this. Right, Let's assume that this sea fire 525 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 2: goes forward, and maybe it doesn't, and maybe, you know, 526 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: maybe Trump ends up having to drop the hammer on 527 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: Putin with a whole lot more economic warfare stuff. And 528 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: that's all possible. Okay, we don't know. We don't get 529 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: ahead of ourselves here, but if you're gonna wargain this 530 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: out a little bit, uh, Let's assume, Clay, that the 531 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: ceasefire goes forward and it is durable, and we go 532 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: into at every phase of the ceasefire, you know, you'll 533 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: be hearing from Democrats Putin got too much of what 534 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: he wanted, and he could break the ceasefire any moment. 535 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: Putin got too much of what he wanted, and he 536 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: could break the ceasefied any You're gonna hear that over 537 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: and over for months and months and months, so that 538 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: by the time it's clear that this conflict, if this happens, 539 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: this conflict actually has ceased to be the war, the 540 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: meat grinder of humanity that it has been. They're just 541 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: hoping to play this out so that nobody even realizes 542 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: that Trump is what. You know, if you extend this 543 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 2: out and complain about it the whole time, it denies him, 544 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: at some level, the victory, the political victory, at least 545 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: to some that he would be winning by ending this thing. 546 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: You see what I mean. They complain, They say, we 547 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: don't know yet, we don't know yet, and they keep 548 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: doing that until eventually when it's clear, oh no, Trump 549 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: actually pulled off something of a diplomatic miracle here, people 550 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: will have moved on to other things. I think that's 551 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: how they play it because they're never going to say, Wow, 552 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: he's a brilliant statesman and he saved thousands and thousands 553 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: of lives and had the economy boom because of it. 554 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: It is a really good sign that they are talking. 555 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: I think again, we read you the read out on 556 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: the report. I am cautiously optimistic. I like to go 557 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: to look at polymarket. It has now buck the chances 558 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: of a ceasefire by May one at sixty percent. You know, 559 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: you can go take either side on this on this 560 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: prediction market, right It's why it's kind of interesting to 561 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: look at. But that is a small favorite that we 562 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: may have a ceasefire in Ukraine by May one. The 563 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: other reason the timing matters on this a lot, buck 564 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: and I do think it's worth, you know, reinforcing this 565 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Typically as it gets warm in Ukraine, 566 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: the armies are better able to move and the overall 567 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: fatality rates increase. It's still the midst of winter over 568 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: there right now. 569 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: But moving the fighting series essentially the same thing was 570 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: true in Afghanistan when when the mountain passes melt down 571 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: and it's easier to you know, to move around, you 572 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: get more fighting and we're shooting. So hopefully if there. 573 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: Is a ceasefire, they could get a ceasefire in place 574 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: by the time it starts to warm up there, so 575 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: that we can limit the overall amount of death that 576 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: might be occurring. 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Okay, drink some coffee that loves America 628 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: and with that Clay. I still have not been able 629 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: to watch the Happy to Go More trailer, but I will, 630 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: and I will give you my most salty and bitter 631 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: possible review of what I am certain to be one 632 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: of the worst sequels in the history of sequels. But 633 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. I have to see that. I have 634 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: to see the trailer first. 635 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean look Axel F which was the fourth 636 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: in the Beverly Hills universe. 637 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: Not bad. 638 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: Also the and I'm not saying that it was as 639 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: good as the originals, all right, because I get a 640 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: delusion with people on this too. Also didn't think Coming 641 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: to America Too was awful. Also watched that one. I 642 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: got ripped to shreds by Buck for saying I didn't 643 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: think Gladiator two was awful. I probably will like Happy 644 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: Gilmore too, and I think Buck will certainly dislike it. 645 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: By the way, a little bit of news. Caroline Levitt 646 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: just texted me so so I can. I can say it. 647 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the road Saturday with President Trump 648 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: at the n C Double A Wrestling Championships in Philadelphia. 649 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: They have not yet announced that he is going to 650 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: be there. For those of you that are big n 651 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: C Double A wrestling fans, I know the n C 652 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: DOUBLEA Tournament is underway as well, but it should be 653 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: a really cool event. Our friend Jim Jordan is going 654 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: to be there, who wrestled in college coach as well 655 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: as Dave McCormick, a newly elected senator from Pennsylvania who 656 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: wrestled at West Point. 657 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: So this is a big event. I've never you know, 658 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: what's a really good but haunting and disturbing movie, Fox Catcher. 659 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: I've never watched it, Steve Carrell. That is insane. You're 660 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: the sports guy and you've never watched Fox Catcher. 661 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: You Steve Carrell did that like in the middle of 662 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: the office, didn't He like left and made that movie. 663 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: It is a very He is freakishly good at doing 664 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: the weird DuPont air guy because I you know, I 665 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: know they not an heiress. I guess you're the air right. Yeah, 666 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: he is so good. You haven't seen that, Clay. You 667 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: have got to watch that movie. It is disturbing though. Yeah, no, 668 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: I need to check it out. By the way. 669 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: Caroline Lovitt also she is giving us access as part 670 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: of new media. She said that nobody else would have 671 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: ever let us travel for this buck. We're gonna be 672 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: doing cool things as a part of the new media 673 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: on this radio show. So our buddy Caroline Lovitt expanding 674 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: the access to the press corps and it's gonna be 675 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: super cool. So I'll be on Air Force one Friday 676 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: as soon as we finished the show, I'm gonna head 677 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: to Andrew's Air Force Base and we'll spend Friday, Saturday, 678 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: Sunday traveling with Trump, including at that NCAA wrestling match. 679 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: So should be really cool. I can't wait to get 680 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: on Air Force One. I've never been on Air Force 681 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: one obviously before. That's a pretty cool experience, so I 682 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: can't wait to be able to share that with all 683 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: of you on Monday after we spend the weekend. 684 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 4: There. 685 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: Have you ever done collegiate style wrestling? No? Oh, I have. 686 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: We had to in my school. It was required of 687 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: everybody and so we I was head tossing people around 688 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: and have house. We did it from like fourth to 689 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: eighth grade. It was everybody had to do it. Everybody 690 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: had to do wow the cow and kids around. 691 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: I trained some with the wrestling team, never really threw 692 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: people around.