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Speaker 1: to this weekend. Odell with the Rams is everybody in
Speaker 1: the media whipped on that story cam with the Panthers.
Speaker 1: You're going early? What I look? All of this hype?
Speaker 1: You got one job? Tell me where Odell's going. I'm
Speaker 1: not an insider. I thought he was gonna go to
Speaker 1: the Saints. He didn't go to the Saints, the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: the Packers. I was told service as close to me
Speaker 1: that the Packers were runner ups to the Rams. Eight
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Speaker 1: La Rams proved once again they're all in for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this season. They signed Odell Beckham Junior yesterday
Speaker 1: and I don't know how all in they could be.
Speaker 1: Prior to this, they traded for von Miller, they traded
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford, so it doesn't seem like they took
Speaker 1: on too much of a risk by signing ob J
Speaker 1: to a reasonable one year deal. So they're really really
Speaker 1: all in on winning a Super Bowl. But Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: comes in. He's friends with Von Miller, He's friends with
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. He knows that Cooper Cups the number one target,
Speaker 1: Robert Woods is probably the number two target. Is he
Speaker 1: willing to play the DeShawn Jackson role, a role that
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson didn't want to play, and that's why he
Speaker 1: wanted out of the La Rams. And now he's with
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Head coach Sean McVay a reputation as one
Speaker 1: of the more creative offensive minds in the league, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to keep everybody happy. The best way
Speaker 1: to do that, you would say, is winning. If they
Speaker 1: do that, you would think O'Dell Beckham would be just fine.
Speaker 1: And this might be a one year rental because the
Speaker 1: Rams are all in getting Von Miller. They don't have
Speaker 1: any draft picks. They gave all of those up bringing
Speaker 1: in Matthew Stafford, and right now they would be playing
Speaker 1: their first game playoff game on the road. If the
Speaker 1: play I'm started today, they'd be playing I think Dallas
Speaker 1: in Dallas. You gotta win your division because as great
Speaker 1: as these moves are, or as talented, potent marquee names
Speaker 1: that you have here, Arizona is still the team to
Speaker 1: beat in your own division. And I think that's interesting
Speaker 1: going into the second half of the season. Are the
Speaker 1: Cardinals for real? And if you're the Rams, you better
Speaker 1: win your division. If not, you're probably going to be
Speaker 1: on the road for two playoff games if you get
Speaker 1: by that first playoff game. All right, McLevin, what's poll
Speaker 1: question you have today? Oh? I guess you didn't see
Speaker 1: the emails this morning since Seton stole Todd's impersonation. Bit,
Speaker 1: I guess Todd thinks he can do the polls today.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, we can dive into the bow? What's hold on? Okay,
Speaker 1: mister passive aggressive? What you never send poll question? Very
Speaker 1: rarely but went in a while. If they're okay, if
Speaker 1: the moon is you know, in a certain spot, you know,
Speaker 1: like the summer solstice kind of thing. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: want to yeah, m love it? Can you say he
Speaker 1: sent three pole questions? The first two are exactly the
Speaker 1: same as each other, and the third one is the
Speaker 1: most random pole I've ever heard of my life. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, Todd, The addition of OBJ will make
Speaker 1: the rams much better. Like you know, it almost sounds
Speaker 1: like you're doing a limerick every time you do something.
Speaker 1: To stop that because it brings back bad memory? Or
Speaker 1: does Tod to only do the pole question in limerick form?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Todd? The addition of OBJ, what will they
Speaker 1: say today? Much better? Much worse. What will the addition
Speaker 1: of OBJ mean to the Rams? Going first? The second
Speaker 1: pole question is which I guess is similar to the first.
Speaker 1: By the end of the season, the Rams will be
Speaker 1: thrilled they added OBJ. Regret Todd. How do you not
Speaker 1: realize those are the same question? It's rewarded a little bit.
Speaker 1: You could like pick which one, but still the same
Speaker 1: bottom line, very similar, not exactly just one. Okay. The
Speaker 1: third this is one I enjoyed, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if we could fiddle all these Which movie title will
Speaker 1: ultimately describe Cam Newton's second stint in Carolina, Return to Sender,
Speaker 1: No Country for old Men, Loser, the best of times,
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and the ugly. He got game.
Speaker 1: There will be blood, the cat in the hat, lost
Speaker 1: in translation, get Out, great expectations, die Hard and raging Bully.
Speaker 1: It's a lot to digest there. Yes, what the heck
Speaker 1: is returned the center. There's like ten Oscar movies and
Speaker 1: then he starts with an actual movie title. You think
Speaker 1: that's the Elvis Presley start, but returned to Senders an
Speaker 1: actual movie from a long time ago. Um, I think
Speaker 1: there's something there we can work off of. I feel
Speaker 1: confident about it. I just want to say, I'm incredibly
Speaker 1: impressed with Todd's third pole question, thank you, And it's
Speaker 1: almost like it's We've never seen that type of creativity,
Speaker 1: no offense in the poll question before ever, never That's
Speaker 1: I'm I'm shocked. I'm stunned. I think Teddy did a
Speaker 1: great job with that. I appreciate that. Anybody is good.
Speaker 1: Anybody else got a poll question suggestion? Paulie, you got
Speaker 1: one today? I have one? Oh? Great? All right? How
Speaker 1: about this? All right? If I told you in August,
Speaker 1: which one would you have not believed the most? Cam
Speaker 1: Newton be back with the Panthers, Odell Beckham will be
Speaker 1: with the Rams. The Jets fans would be excited about
Speaker 1: a young quarterback named Mike White. John Gruden would no
Speaker 1: longer be coaching the Raiders. That happened, by the way,
Speaker 1: this year, Jordan Love would start a game for the Packers,
Speaker 1: not due to an Aaron Rodgers injury. The Chiefs would
Speaker 1: be tied for last place in the AFC West. Most
Speaker 1: unbelievable of those, it was all happened in the past
Speaker 1: two months. I know it isn't amazing that the NFL
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's not fair. It's not fair to
Speaker 1: the other leagues that they just there's headlines right around
Speaker 1: every corner here, Cam Newton, that's not prising Odell, that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprising. Jets fans being excited about Mike White
Speaker 1: is exciting, but nobody cares about the Jets. John Gruden
Speaker 1: no longer coaching the Raiders. I that's crazy when you
Speaker 1: think about He's signed a ten year deal and they
Speaker 1: were winning. Jordan Love with Aaron Rodgers not having an injury,
Speaker 1: those would be my two. The chiefs in last place
Speaker 1: in the West, I guess I'd be moderately surprised, but
Speaker 1: not overwhelmingly surprised with that. Yes, I think they're also
Speaker 1: in first place in the West. They're right, that's a weird.
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Speaker 1: settle on one here. I have another two questions for you.
Speaker 1: Are the Ravens any good? Yes or no? This was
Speaker 1: a standalone game, and I said yesterday we don't have
Speaker 1: a front runner for MVP, but if Lamar Jackson plays
Speaker 1: well Thursday night in South Florida, he's going to be
Speaker 1: your leading contender for the MVP. Well, you put up
Speaker 1: three points in three and a half quarters year. No
Speaker 1: longer in the top five for MVP. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it won't happen in a couple of weeks where
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson comes back and then we'll go God, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is so great. What I found out and I'm
Speaker 1: reminded of this is the Ravens aren't an interesting team
Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson is not doing anything, because when he's
Speaker 1: not doing anything, there is no reason to watch that
Speaker 1: team defense. No, there's no Ray Lewis, there's there's no
Speaker 1: ed Re there. It's it's very very bland team without
Speaker 1: anything from Lamar Jackson. Yeah, seton. I find myself watching
Speaker 1: the Ravens getting so frustrated. For some reason. I just
Speaker 1: want to be like, who are you like? What team
Speaker 1: are you? Who are you as A two. Who is this?
Speaker 1: I know, I know by the way, Brady Quinn will
Speaker 1: join us on loan from Fox Sports, will get his
Speaker 1: thoughts on OBJ. Also Cam in Carolina, Charles Barclay is
Speaker 1: gonna join us. Here's the stat for you. I was
Speaker 1: gonna save it, but I love it because I mentioned
Speaker 1: that if you don't score twenty points in the NBA,
Speaker 1: I mean you're not You're not a scorer. Fifty seven
Speaker 1: different players have scored at least thirty points in a
Speaker 1: game so far. That matches the most at this point
Speaker 1: in the season in any season in the last fifty years.
Speaker 1: Stat of the days, last stat of the day, Stat
Speaker 1: of the day, dude, comes that much data. So Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley will join us coming up next hour. I'm being
Speaker 1: told that there's front row anger related to last night's game. Yes,
Speaker 1: Dan Seat and I both don't care who wins between
Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Dolphins, but there's something that's been
Speaker 1: bothering he and I specifically for about two years now.
Speaker 1: You know how at the end of a loss, coaches
Speaker 1: now go up to the podium, the head coach, And
Speaker 1: this one's on me that I blame myself. Here's an
Speaker 1: example John Harball last night. That's a nature of the beast.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's a road Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: It's hard to go on the run Thursday night. But
Speaker 1: we've done it before and we've been successful. We just
Speaker 1: played poorly, and it's it's because of our coaching. That
Speaker 1: starts with me, and I didn't do a good job
Speaker 1: getting these guys ready. He said some form of that
Speaker 1: three other times, where this loss is on me, it's
Speaker 1: on the coach. It's have the preparation. You're the head coach.
Speaker 1: You're making eight million dollars here. You don't have to
Speaker 1: tell us that it's on you. It's that's the new
Speaker 1: thing in the past two years, the NFL put this
Speaker 1: one on me. When did he realize they weren't prepared,
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, Like pregame, maybe when's day?
Speaker 1: Maybe Tuesday? Was he like, Oh, I'm getting little nervous
Speaker 1: about that. I don't know if we're prepared yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the rationale the logic is
Speaker 1: for doing that, Like I'm gonna take all the pressure
Speaker 1: off Lamar Jacks. Hey, this is on me, this is
Speaker 1: on me. Yeah, we know that I would love for
Speaker 1: the head coach to go after a loss. This ain't
Speaker 1: on me and it's on them. Go in there and
Speaker 1: ask those guys questions. I wasn't a round one slipping
Speaker 1: and sliding. Yeah, I had these guys finally tuned right up.
Speaker 1: They lost it. I was back there with my headset
Speaker 1: and I couldn't do a thing. Oh man, it's amazing
Speaker 1: the headlines that we've had in the NFL. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, you know, being a ram and I think
Speaker 1: it'll be I'm curious. I'm curious if he can play
Speaker 1: the role that DeShawn Jackson played because this is the
Speaker 1: offense goes through Cooper Cup. They're a passing team. You know,
Speaker 1: you got Los Angeles played a role. You're friends with
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and Von Miller. Maybe the fact that it
Speaker 1: is LA and there's part of the off the field equation.
Speaker 1: But can Odell like what is he expecting and what
Speaker 1: was he told? I'd be curious about that. Yeah. Point.
Speaker 1: If I would have told you three years ago, you
Speaker 1: would utter the phrase, can O'Dell Beckham get on the
Speaker 1: field and a Cooper Cup led offense? Ye? Things have changed, Yes,
Speaker 1: they have, Yes, they have, but Cooper Cup is their
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. I just don't know for Odell
Speaker 1: to make this work. Now, I'm just thinking what Odell
Speaker 1: was thinking, and that is I got to prove to
Speaker 1: everybody on a big stage that I'm still an elite
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Now how do I do that? Is the
Speaker 1: offense going to go through me at some point? How
Speaker 1: many touches? How many targets? These are really important topics
Speaker 1: for wide receivers. How many targets am I getting? Because
Speaker 1: they'll come back and look at the stat sheet, be
Speaker 1: like I got targeted five times. I gotta get targeted more.
Speaker 1: And you can bet after the Monday night game against
Speaker 1: San Francisco, then you know everybody's gonna flock to Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: Win or lose, they'll go to Odell Beckham. Then it
Speaker 1: becomes a thing, just like it did in Cleveland, just
Speaker 1: like it did with the Giants. That the media knows
Speaker 1: they can get clicks when you're writing about talking about
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. But the rams are far more and should
Speaker 1: be far more than Odell Beckham. If you're going to win,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're winning because of Odell Beckham. If
Speaker 1: he can compliment what you have, then you might have
Speaker 1: some magic here. Yes, but does Odell Beckham need to
Speaker 1: prove that he's still an elite wide receiver or does
Speaker 1: he need to prove that he's a good teammate? Because
Speaker 1: those are those are sort of both on the table
Speaker 1: right now, of like which, so which dude is this?
Speaker 1: Are you a good teammate or are you an elite
Speaker 1: wide receiver? You're not gonna make any money after this
Speaker 1: season being a good teammate. I don't know. If you're
Speaker 1: not an elite wide receiver, you can be a good
Speaker 1: you know. It's like the guy on the basketball team
Speaker 1: that has a three point eight grade point average. You're like, man,
Speaker 1: we love having him on the team, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: help you win. It's like he's he's great for the team.
Speaker 1: It's like mclovin good grade point average. He said that
Speaker 1: right to mclovin's face. He was the grades guy in
Speaker 1: high school, came off the bench, Yes he was. Does
Speaker 1: that make me the diva wide receiver? Then yes, I
Speaker 1: need touches and you need to be a better I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just blow up the chemist. You need to be
Speaker 1: a better teammate. Yes, that's what needs to happen. You
Speaker 1: stole Fritzie's Adam Sandler impersonation right in front of him yesterday,
Speaker 1: and then I enthusiastically supported one of his poll questions today.
Speaker 1: Good grief, what am I doing? I think you overcompensated
Speaker 1: with that where you're like, man that hurt. Yesterday after
Speaker 1: the show, Todd, Todd was over by the weights and
Speaker 1: he he's doing his curls or whatever, and I could
Speaker 1: hear him working on his Adam Sandler impersonation. You're joking
Speaker 1: by himself also some mumbling some less than pleasant words
Speaker 1: about that. But he it was like he was working
Speaker 1: on his Adam Sandler impersonation because Seaton stole it from him.
Speaker 1: I said, Todd, you still do a better in person.
Speaker 1: I got a little competitive. I was able to add
Speaker 1: like ten pounds to the piceup curls in anger over that.
Speaker 1: So h we'll talk about Cam Newton going to Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a mess? What a mess in Carolina. It's like,
Speaker 1: let's replace Cam and then we'll replace that guy who's
Speaker 1: replacing Cam, and then that guy who's replacing Cam, and
Speaker 1: then we'll replace Cam by bringing in Cam that and
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, How does it go right? How does it
Speaker 1: go wrong? Rady Quinn will join us coming up next.
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Speaker 1: at number thirteen Baylor, Brady, thanks for joining us. Let
Speaker 1: me start with what you saw last night. Did the
Speaker 1: Dolphins provide a blueprint? We'd love to do this, a
Speaker 1: blue print on how to shut down Lamar Jackson. I'm
Speaker 1: not willing to go that far. I think what we
Speaker 1: witnessed them and I think one of the things that
Speaker 1: we've noticed if you've paid attention to the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: and the second half of the seasons with Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: Greg Roman calling plays is I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a matter of teams figuring them out, but it always
Speaker 1: seems like that offense hits a wall in the second
Speaker 1: half of the season. They usually get off to some
Speaker 1: pretty fast starts and then they start to kind of
Speaker 1: fizzle out. And I don't know if that's like a
Speaker 1: Greg Roman thing when you comb back through the years
Speaker 1: and feel like from some of the different teams he's
Speaker 1: been to, like they haven't had a second act or
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to adjust. But clearly last night
Speaker 1: was one of those examples of Miami felt really comfortable
Speaker 1: playing a variation of coverage. It's kind of some off
Speaker 1: man coverage mixing in some zone but putting pressure on
Speaker 1: Lamar and the Ravens offense. Lamar did not handle it well.
Speaker 1: And it also seems like when he gets in situations
Speaker 1: where he starts to press where I mean he's literally
Speaker 1: feeling the pressure. But I just think also because of
Speaker 1: that point in the game where they needed to come back,
Speaker 1: they had to do something, I feel like he almost
Speaker 1: puts himself in some compromising situations, forces throws, makes some
Speaker 1: bad decisions. I think we've seen that from him from
Speaker 1: time to time. But so I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a blueprint necessarily. More so is it's just kind of
Speaker 1: been what we've seen from the Ravens offensively speaking, at
Speaker 1: least since Lamar Jacks has been quarterback in the second
Speaker 1: half of the the season. Then we're starting to venture into
Speaker 1: that territory. And I'm also wondering about the decision. Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissette gets banged up, goes out. Two is the emergencies
Speaker 1: back up, but then he goes in. He's healthy enough
Speaker 1: to play, but he wasn't healthy enough to start. I'm
Speaker 1: confused with that whole situation. Brady join the club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been confused now for two years with Brian Flores
Speaker 1: and the decisions with two in particular. I mean last
Speaker 1: year when he'd yank him out at the end of
Speaker 1: the game or you know, after a bad first half.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy you drafted in the
Speaker 1: top ten, the first round pick. You've got to see
Speaker 1: what he can do to finish games or end games.
Speaker 1: I would say this last year about him, and yet
Speaker 1: they just put Ryan Fitzpatrick in and let him be
Speaker 1: the closer. And I understand that Brian Floors wants to
Speaker 1: win games, and he wants to do it's best for
Speaker 1: his team to win games, But then shouldn't fitzpatrickman starting
Speaker 1: the whole time? Like it just never really made any
Speaker 1: sense to me. With when they chose to make the
Speaker 1: switch to two A last year when fits the team
Speaker 1: was playing well, and then the times they would take
Speaker 1: Two out of the game, it's like, well, you already
Speaker 1: made that decision to put him in, Like don't you
Speaker 1: want to see what you have in him? Don't you
Speaker 1: want to let this pay dividends in the future where
Speaker 1: either he brings your team back or he doesn't, but
Speaker 1: he at least learns from it. And then this year, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was that case of what
Speaker 1: last week he was dressed for it, and I'm going
Speaker 1: within a second like he's healthy enough to go in
Speaker 1: an emergency situation, but not to start. And then he
Speaker 1: goes in and any plays better than Jacoby did once
Speaker 1: he got into the game. So it's I honestly feel
Speaker 1: like it's this. If the Dolphins end up moving on
Speaker 1: from Brian Flores at some point in the future, whether
Speaker 1: this season goes into a tailspin or they don't end
Speaker 1: up achieving what they you know, hope to in the future,
Speaker 1: this will be to me, at least at the top
Speaker 1: of my list for reasons as to why, because I
Speaker 1: think he's botched this entire situation with even seeing what
Speaker 1: they have in two as a quarterback, and you already know.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows two and knows. Everybody in the building knows
Speaker 1: that they flirted with DeShawn Watson and what they were
Speaker 1: willing to give up for DeShawn Watson. It almost made
Speaker 1: that trade, Like I don't know what that would be
Speaker 1: like if you knew your your wife was negotiating with
Speaker 1: somebody else that maybe she would leave you for that person.
Speaker 1: But then it fell through, Like how would you feel
Speaker 1: showing up every day? Al hi, honey, how are you?
Speaker 1: I mean right, No, it wasn't flirting. They went speed dating,
Speaker 1: essentially speed They slaped right, yeah, it's his wife. I
Speaker 1: guess like your wife went out to one of those
Speaker 1: speed dating thing threes to have free COVID and you're like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: bath house your night, what do you do? Oh? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I meant ten eligible bachelors who I was
Speaker 1: like potentially talking to. I found one that I really liked,
Speaker 1: but we didn't really have much time. You know, you'll
Speaker 1: like get five minutes per conversation. Then you got a roadtate.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, it's one of those bizarre things
Speaker 1: where you just made this decision to draft him. And
Speaker 1: I always just say this, like I think the league
Speaker 1: always lacks patients fan bases, even having even less, but
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, understanding that, like, it's the one position that
Speaker 1: you need time, you need experience to develop, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that two has had that time, the opportunity
Speaker 1: to truly develop, And I don't know that the organization
Speaker 1: can have a true picture of what he is or
Speaker 1: what he isn't you know, if they wanted a guy
Speaker 1: who was more more of a product that was ready
Speaker 1: to go right away, they should just try to go
Speaker 1: find a veteran quarterback they could go get or trade
Speaker 1: for with that pick in the draft, instead of drafting
Speaker 1: a guy that's a rookie. Like all these quarterbacks come
Speaker 1: out of the draft need work, they need some seasoning.
Speaker 1: So I never really understand that when they just want
Speaker 1: to move on from that decision right away. Look, Deshahn
Speaker 1: Watson an extreme talent. Any team that has interested as
Speaker 1: a football player obviously has to do their due diligence
Speaker 1: if he's on the market, But there's still a lot
Speaker 1: to be figuring out off the field. And also, by
Speaker 1: the way, I don't think this is done like I
Speaker 1: think in the offseason, whatever was on the table will
Speaker 1: probably still be on the table, just depends on the
Speaker 1: legal situation that he's in. If I told you back
Speaker 1: in August, these are some of the headlines that would
Speaker 1: emerge in the NFL. Cam Newton would be back with
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Odell Beckham would be a ram Jets fans
Speaker 1: would be excited about a young quarterback named Mike White.
Speaker 1: John Gruden would no longer be coaching the Raiders. Jordan
Speaker 1: Love would start a game, but it wouldn't be due
Speaker 1: to when Aaron Rodgers injury, and the Chiefs would be
Speaker 1: in last place in the AFC West. Where would you start?
Speaker 1: Where you go? I wouldn't believe that headline The Chiefs
Speaker 1: would be the the last to hip see whatever. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I mean, I mean, well, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's look at the I mean, obviously, the situation with
Speaker 1: John Gruden the Raiders is terrible. It's despicable. Um, But
Speaker 1: I do feel like there was a sense for the
Speaker 1: direction that team was going from a win loss perspective
Speaker 1: that at some point someone's got to kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: hold them accountable. Um. Clearly that's not why he's not
Speaker 1: there anymore, but you know, and even with Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: There's kind of always been that, like is he happy
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, potential trade rumors or how this is going
Speaker 1: to work out. The fact that he got released and
Speaker 1: cut is a different way of getting to that. You know,
Speaker 1: Cam and his and his journey back to Carolina. First off,
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. I'm glad he got paid, got
Speaker 1: the contract, he got paid. I mean, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I feel like, were they negotiating against Brady? Well, no,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good question. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was anyone, but we look but that's that's the
Speaker 1: situation that they were in. It's like they don't have
Speaker 1: to go anyone, but they're negotiating with essentially p J.
Speaker 1: Walker for that period of time right now where they're
Speaker 1: still not technically out of the playoff on the NFC,
Speaker 1: like outside of about five or six teams in the NFC,
Speaker 1: like that last wildcard spot, the last two, it's kind
Speaker 1: of wide open. So they might feel like, a defensively,
Speaker 1: we've got a good team, we could still stand this thing.
Speaker 1: We just need a quarterback to guide the ship there,
Speaker 1: and Cam's our best option. And so it's yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 1: They weren't negotiating versus anyone else, but they were negotiating
Speaker 1: versus staring down the rest of the season of not
Speaker 1: being potentially in the playoff on I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: they're negotiating against. Okay, So you get rid of Cam,
Speaker 1: then you bring in his replacement, and then you paid
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater thirty five million dollars. Then you get rid
Speaker 1: of him, then you trade for Sam Darnold. You bring
Speaker 1: him in, you guarantee next year's contract of nineteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: You pass on Justin Field. So now you're bringing in Cam.
Speaker 1: You brought in Cam's replacement, then the replacement to Cam's replacement,
Speaker 1: to now another replacement for Cam's replace. Now you bring
Speaker 1: in Cam to replace Cam. God, I want to be
Speaker 1: a Cam's replacement so bad because they all get paid,
Speaker 1: right Like, I guess that the world of the story
Speaker 1: right about. I mean, think about how much David Tepper
Speaker 1: uh and right now is paying out in Carolina because
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgelow is not even there, He's still getting paid.
Speaker 1: You know, you bring in Sam Donald and p J.
Speaker 1: Walker and it just all comes full circle. Are you
Speaker 1: the same age as Matt Barkley because they brought in
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley to h to play. He's younger than I.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's younger than I. Trust. I wish, but
Speaker 1: maybe I should just give him a call and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: services are still out there if you want to show
Speaker 1: out a little extra money too while you're pat everyone,
Speaker 1: I'd love to sign up. When's the last time somebody
Speaker 1: reached out to you about playing? It would have been
Speaker 1: back when I was in I think in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: I would have been back when I was Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean at that point I was transitioning to broadcasting,
Speaker 1: but there was still kind of some interest. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I think once I was presented with the opportunity I
Speaker 1: was at Fox, and then when when you'd kind of
Speaker 1: talked to some of the teams and their interests was
Speaker 1: they were interest did but nothing where it was anything
Speaker 1: significant and I'm gonna just go into a training camp,
Speaker 1: be a camp. Arm I felt like what Fox was,
Speaker 1: you know, offering me at that time to do was intriguing.
Speaker 1: It was a great opportunity, something that like I didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily realize how special was at the time of what
Speaker 1: it would build into. But clearly. You know, it was
Speaker 1: something that I respected enough to say, I'm gonna jump
Speaker 1: into this next career and take this opportunity. Who's the
Speaker 1: best quarterback on the Fox set? I mean I would
Speaker 1: say me, I mean, look, I got that. Like I
Speaker 1: think every quarterback has that Mike White to them, where
Speaker 1: Mike Whites come out to the the public like I feel
Speaker 1: like I should have been the first quarterback, first player
Speaker 1: taking the draft. Like every quarterback feels that way about
Speaker 1: their playing about themselves. Otherwise they wouldn't have played at
Speaker 1: the NFL level or wouldn't have the ability to like
Speaker 1: even if you like, I think sometimes what impresses me
Speaker 1: the most is the guys who are so overly confident
Speaker 1: and they think they can make every throw, and they
Speaker 1: think they can make every play, but like objectively speaking,
Speaker 1: like you're looking at them going that he definitely can't
Speaker 1: do that. But like, those are the guys that tend
Speaker 1: to succeed at moments because they believe in their abilities
Speaker 1: even when everyone else doesn't. And that's that's why I like,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's me or anyone else, Mike White
Speaker 1: in this case, that's why they're such good stories, is
Speaker 1: because the journey to get there is a lonely journey,
Speaker 1: and he's probably the only one. Even his parents have
Speaker 1: probably at some point in time not believe that he
Speaker 1: was going to be able to do in his one
Speaker 1: start and change what he's done so far. He's Brady Quinn,
Speaker 1: Fox Sports College and NFL studio and game analyst. How
Speaker 1: does this not work out with Odell and the Rams?
Speaker 1: It's a tough question to answer because I think it's
Speaker 1: going to work out. I mean, everything the stars of
Speaker 1: a line for it to work out. He's with a
Speaker 1: great play caller. He's with a quarterback who you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna distribute to football and get him the football.
Speaker 1: You know, you could complain about Bobams if he doesn't
Speaker 1: get enough targets or touches, and he might not in
Speaker 1: comparison to Cooper Cup, for example, I think it would
Speaker 1: become petitive as far as targets with Robert Woods. But
Speaker 1: Odell strikes me as the type of person. I think
Speaker 1: we all have these people like that we work with
Speaker 1: or in our lives. When they come into work, like
Speaker 1: whatever's going on in their personal life. Some people can
Speaker 1: compartmentalize and not bring that to work. Other people can
Speaker 1: like Odell strikes me as the type of person that
Speaker 1: as a hard time if he's not happy outside of
Speaker 1: football being able to come in and be in that
Speaker 1: work environment and be the type of guy that's enjoyable
Speaker 1: to be around. And I also don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to excel if that's the case. Look, he's got a
Speaker 1: house in LA, he's got interest outside of football. I
Speaker 1: just think the way Sean McVeagh handles that team and
Speaker 1: how he'll fit into that team is a perfect scenario
Speaker 1: for him. So I don't think it goes bad. Like
Speaker 1: I think he found himself into the perfect situation for
Speaker 1: him to resurrect things in his career. How does Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford approach this relationship. It's one in which I think, look,
Speaker 1: you get him on board, you're happy to have him.
Speaker 1: But I think he knows and he came to the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown the situation where they were in the playoff hunt.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Rams are squaring the playoff hunt divisional hunt,
Speaker 1: so you know, you're just trying to get him up
Speaker 1: to speed. Like if anything, if they don't have a
Speaker 1: prior relationship, you're just trying to get into the person.
Speaker 1: You know, what motivates him, what makes him tick, what
Speaker 1: he likes, what he doesn't like, how he sees the game.
Speaker 1: You know all those things because you've got to get
Speaker 1: up to speed and build that chemistry in a short
Speaker 1: amount of time. But you know, touches, Brady, because that's
Speaker 1: that's how you get the next contract. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: a contract by being just a good team player. He
Speaker 1: gets a contract by let me show the world what
Speaker 1: I can still do. And if you get a contract too,
Speaker 1: you get a contract too when you win. You know
Speaker 1: that if this, if this carries on to winning a
Speaker 1: super Bowl, every everyone looks better when you win a
Speaker 1: super Bowl, whether you're as good as you think or not,
Speaker 1: you're a world champ. Yeah. So, as much as he
Speaker 1: wants his touches and targets, which he was still the
Speaker 1: most targeted player for the Browns, and we tend to
Speaker 1: forget that he was still the most targeted player, just
Speaker 1: didn't quite work out. So he'll get his targets, he'll
Speaker 1: get his touches. But I think if you're preaching him
Speaker 1: on success and then being able to go and win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, and back to my initial point, like
Speaker 1: in order to get him those touches. You still have
Speaker 1: to know the person and player, and so you still
Speaker 1: have to understand like his nonverbal communication, how he moves,
Speaker 1: how he gets open, how he sees his own coverages,
Speaker 1: what he likes, what he doesn't like, Like, you still
Speaker 1: have to get all that down in order to get
Speaker 1: him those touches. So it's it's honestly a lot of
Speaker 1: trying to hang around each other as much as you
Speaker 1: possibly can. If you're Matt Staff or Nodell Beckham, like
Speaker 1: you're trying to become best friends or speed dating, if
Speaker 1: you will use that analogy again, like as fast as
Speaker 1: humanly possible. Fox Big noon kickoff in Waco, Texas. It's
Speaker 1: number thirteen Baylor, number eight Oklahoma. How big is this
Speaker 1: game for Oklahoma? It's huge because this is out their
Speaker 1: case for building a resume to get within the top four.
Speaker 1: You know, they're that undefeated team. That's kind of problem.
Speaker 1: They probably feel disrespected, and yet since Caleb Williams has
Speaker 1: taken over as their quarterback, the freshman quarterback, this offense
Speaker 1: has been unstoppable. Now, defensively, they've suffered some manageries and
Speaker 1: they struggled at times, but this is the case now
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma to make that run. They've got to be
Speaker 1: failable eventually, have to beat Oklahoma State and then when
Speaker 1: presumably versus probably Oklahoma State again in the Big twelve
Speaker 1: championship game to get that resume where they needed to
Speaker 1: to be undefeated and be a part of the conversation
Speaker 1: to play for a national championship. Safe travel is always
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Thank you, have a great weekend, Brady,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Guys. That's Brady Quinn. You can
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Speaker 1: dot net. So obviously that was a big surprise. Navy
Speaker 1: beating Virginia at Virginia was a big surprise. Earlier this
Speaker 1: week in College Basketball eight seven seven three d P
Speaker 1: Show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter
Speaker 1: handle at DP show. We say good morning to Carol
Speaker 1: in Virginia. Hi Carol, Hey Dan, Hi Carroll. I'm extreme, extreme,
Speaker 1: extremely excited about last night's game. I'm Adolphin fan and
Speaker 1: have been one since day one. I was born and
Speaker 1: raised to Miami, so Miami was my team. Um. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, sad of all the the players on the team. Um,
Speaker 1: I wish they had played like that for the best
Speaker 1: the season and before. But that was I was. I
Speaker 1: am still in like heaven. I can't believe it was
Speaker 1: such an exciting game. Well, congratulations, I can actually see
Speaker 1: it on television SoC I normally can't see it because
Speaker 1: I live in Virginia. I was, it was a great night.
Speaker 1: I was screaming, all right, Well, thank you, Carol, and
Speaker 1: congratulations and you're all set going into this weekend. Glad.
Speaker 1: Carol let me know that she had a great night
Speaker 1: watching the Dolphins. Yeah. Ball. When you're a fan of
Speaker 1: a team that's not good and they beat a team
Speaker 1: that's really good or expected to be really good on
Speaker 1: Nash TV, you dine out on it. Yeah, you're dining
Speaker 1: out sure, yeah, absolutely, why not two or through for
Speaker 1: one fifty eight and he came in for Jacobe brossetto
Speaker 1: through for one fifty six. This is the first time
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have had two quarterbacks throw for at least
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards in the same game since
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. Scott Mitchell and Steve de Burgh Stat
Speaker 1: of the Day, staut of the day, That beast stat
Speaker 1: of the day. Stat of the day here comes that
Speaker 1: what stat of the day? I'm sure that that game
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three was just as exciting as last
Speaker 1: night's game for the Dolphins. Scott Mitchell, Steve de Burgh. Yeah, McClement,
Speaker 1: did they win a Super Bowl with a two headed
Speaker 1: quarterback one year? Well, they didn't have a two headed
Speaker 1: quarterback there, that would be something. Yeah, the NFL has
Speaker 1: had a lot, but I've never seen a two headed quarterback.
Speaker 1: They had two different quarterbacks. Guy's great at looking off
Speaker 1: the safety, though I really don't like his indecisive ways
Speaker 1: going this way? Wait, what how much spot? What eyes?
Speaker 1: Am I supposed to read? Coach his heads on in
Speaker 1: the game? What about the yes FA So I think
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins when they lost a Super Bowl Head
Speaker 1: was it David Woodley and Don Strock when they lost
Speaker 1: to the Redskins that one of those they won, they
Speaker 1: won fourteen to seven. They had Earl Morrell and they
Speaker 1: had Bob Greasy I think as their their quarterbacks during
Speaker 1: the seventeen and no season, But I don't remember Strock playing.
Speaker 1: I remember Woodley playing starting quarterback for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: But at least they have Dan Marino. You know, when
Speaker 1: you think of a franchise without a quarterback, and you
Speaker 1: can look at the Cleveland Browns and say, all right,
Speaker 1: have they had great quarterbacks? They've had good quarterbacks. You know,
Speaker 1: Bernie Costar was a good quarterback, Brian Pipe was a
Speaker 1: good quarterback. You can go back to the sixties with
Speaker 1: Frank Ryan. He was a good quarterback. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was considered great, but then offenses really weren't
Speaker 1: predicated on passing the ball for their success. But Miami
Speaker 1: we always think Dan Marino. I guess there is there
Speaker 1: a quarterback who looms larger over a team a team's
Speaker 1: history at that position than the Dolphins with Dan Marino,
Speaker 1: Brady and the Patriot Steve Grogan was well, Brady is
Speaker 1: just so great. But Steve Grogan was was good. Um
Speaker 1: and Marino didn't it didn't win. He went to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl once and lost to Joe Montana. But I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think who else would be in there where
Speaker 1: that quarterback is just so much better than everybody else.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Bears. They're still looking for
Speaker 1: a quarterback, right. I know, yes, Levin with starback and
Speaker 1: Bradshaw those two, but maybe Roger stab not just because
Speaker 1: he was so much better, but but Ben's a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah, but Roger Stauback show identified it as
Speaker 1: mister Cowboy, I know, but Akman's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I mean, I loved watching Roger Staback, and I can't
Speaker 1: imagine how great he would be in today's NFL because
Speaker 1: he was elusive. He was a great athlete, great quarterback,
Speaker 1: could throw, and it feels like every rule is favoring
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and Roger probably would have been able to
Speaker 1: take advantage of that. But they all could. You know,
Speaker 1: Montana was talking about that the other day. I mean,
Speaker 1: Brady's able to play because you can't hit him, even
Speaker 1: if you just brush up against a helmet. As we
Speaker 1: saw last night, there were two roughing the passer penalties.
Speaker 1: That was a ninety nine yard drive. And that's where
Speaker 1: I think you have to have replay when when when
Speaker 1: there's any blow to the head with a quarterback, I
Speaker 1: think you should be able to just see that and
Speaker 1: judge it. It's like targeting in college football. It's just
Speaker 1: if if I graze you, am I roughing you? And
Speaker 1: it just I think it's the word the definition like roughing,
Speaker 1: the roughing the quarterback. I didn't rough him. I I
Speaker 1: like brush up against his helmet. Troy Aikman even said,
Speaker 1: that's not rough in the passer. Yeah, see yeah, right
Speaker 1: when you think about it, like roughing, was that rough Hey?
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was stop roughing. I wasn't roughing.
Speaker 1: I grazed the passer. Can you call that grazing the passer? Defense?
Speaker 1: Fifteen yards? First time? All right, mclub And what's the
Speaker 1: poll question? So we did, uh which August headline? Which
Speaker 1: headline would have surprise you the most? In August? If
Speaker 1: we have a runaway winner, sixty eight percent say the
Speaker 1: Chiefs would be in last place. Then Gruden being fired
Speaker 1: cam with Panthers, wo obj and Jets. See I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked that the Chiefs are in last place
Speaker 1: because they could be the first place in two weeks.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not like I go, oh, they're all
Speaker 1: all is lost here. I mean it's a competitive division.
Speaker 1: Or the day of five and four the leaders five
Speaker 1: and three, Yes, like that, Wow, you're in last place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and by next week we can be in first place.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's not a precipitous drop where you go,
Speaker 1: you'll never get out of last place. John Cruden got
Speaker 1: fired by the league. Basically Aaron Rodgers missed a game
Speaker 1: and had nothing to do with an injury. OBJ going
Speaker 1: to the Rams. That's not a shocker at all. Cam
Speaker 1: going back to Carolina. I wondered earlier in the week
Speaker 1: why nobody had picked up Cam Newton and but who
Speaker 1: was who was Carolina negotiating against? Like, we got to
Speaker 1: get Cam before somebody else does. Let's give him all
Speaker 1: this money now, maybe it's what the veteran minimum would be,
Speaker 1: and I think he can help them. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're a playoff team. I mean, let's let's be honest.
Speaker 1: If Christian McCaffrey is average, not playing banged up, they're
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Defense is good and Cam can give
Speaker 1: you a couple of home run plays. He just can't
Speaker 1: pass anymore. Well, I don't know if he could ever
Speaker 1: really pass, but he can pass less than he used to.
Speaker 1: But Caroline is probably looking at this and going, you know,
Speaker 1: we're kind of in this, let's go for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mclough did think they paid him a little more than
Speaker 1: they had to just say for goodwill with him saying
Speaker 1: we're all into this, let's do it, Cam or I
Speaker 1: don't know who does that. Maybe they wanted him to
Speaker 1: not have a bad taste in his mouth after what happened, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: we really want you to come back, Come on back,
Speaker 1: take a victory lap here and come back home with Carolina.
Speaker 1: We'll check in with Panthers a little bit later on.
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley will join us in about twenty five minutes.