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Speaker 1: left tackle Tony Bacelli's induction in the National Football League

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. What makes it even more special for

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Speaker 1: For them to care that much means a tongue to me.

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Speaker 1: Join Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Hosier as he

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Speaker 1: I know I've seen several places where you have spoken

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Speaker 1: barely strongly of him getting in. Uh, what were your

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Speaker 1: If if that's what you want to hang it up,

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Speaker 1: you know we had a you know, we played a

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Speaker 1: few times and he wore my high parts out every time.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Michael McCrary a couple of weeks ago, same topic.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he had a chance to play against Tony

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Speaker 1: But he talked extensively about, you know, the preparation for

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Speaker 1: Keep keep chipping away at it. You know you may

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Speaker 1: Lord helped me. Yeah, that's the rushmore, no doubt. Yes, Hey, Jason,

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Speaker 1: And I could have enjoyed it more. Jason, my pleasure

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