1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted Social 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Distancing Style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: joined by my trusted colleague West had kuwits West. We 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: are just a couple of days away from training camp 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: officially being over and the roster cuts, roster decisions and 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: all that will be made over the weekend. But before 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: we get into some of those rules and ramifications, I 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: want to talk about Aaron Rodgers media session over Zoom yesterday, 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: which was after Wednesday's practice, because he uh, he was 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: full of positive thoughts, full of positive attitude, and you know, 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: it turns out it wasn't just a piece of two 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: thousand ten practice film that he took out to the 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: field with him when things started to click in for 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: him for camp this year. It sounds like he spent 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: a good part of the off season reviewing a lot 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: of his own film to get ready for this, as 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: we like to call it, a season unlike any other. 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: He showed up for camp with a whole different mental 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: preparation that he went through, uh during the months of 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: the pandemic and the quarantine period. Yeah, he really did, Mike, 21 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: and it was interesting listening to speak. He talked to 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: the media for about twenty minutes and and too Roger's credit. 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong here. I don't remember him 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: speaking this often in previous training camps. It would typically 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: be a lot of Tim Boyle, a lot of the 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks. But I would say he, I would say, 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: he still usually would talk during training camp. Yeah, but um, 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, I couldn't remember. But this probably feeds into 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: what I want to say, and that's it's this year 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: really left an impression on me. I don't know if 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: it's the fact that he was able to be more 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: reflective this offseason in what was going on and in 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: his life and and how he wanted to approach football, 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: but he's just had this different or about him. Jason 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Willdy had to ask the question, uh the way he did, 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: which was, you know, guys are saying you're a lot more, 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, seemed to be having a good time, not 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: that you necessarily were in a bad mood before, but 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: you're in a pretty good place right now. And honestly, Mike, 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: I think we could kind of sense that too, just 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: based on the three availabilities we've had with him this summer. 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: He just seems very at peace and very at easy. 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Had his Mark Freaking Eating shirt on when he did 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: his conference call. I mean, just was really chill. And 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: the thing I keep thinking back to when he mentioned 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: the two thousand ten things we did. We talked a 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: lot about the film and what he potentially saw in 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: that practice tape or whatever tape it was that he 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: picked up on. But I think if you go back 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: and look at it ten years ago too, he was 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: in an entirely different place. He wasn't the two time 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: m v P. Yet, he wasn't the franchise quarterback. He 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: was a really talented young guy who ended up leading 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: a team to a super Bowl at twenty seven years old. 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: You wonder how much of that he wanted to be 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: able to get back, and it just kind of get 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: back to the loving nature of the game. I've sensed 58 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: that I've noticed it and the way he actually is 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: out there on the practice field, and he talked about 60 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: Mark quisbelt is scantling in the way that he's impressed 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: him coming back this year. He's interacting with guys. The 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: video that Olivia Reiner tweeted out from the press Casette 63 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: and him, you know, throwing, the kind of joshing around 64 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: a little bit with Boyle kicking the ball away from him. 65 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: He just really seems to be having a good time. 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, my going into the 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: start of the regular season here and now ten days, 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good sign. I just think 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: he's loose, he's comfortable, and during a time with so 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: much uncertainty, Aaron Rodgers just really seems to be himself. Yeah, 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: And he he was talking a lot about where he is, 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: both personally and professionally, and he talked about sort of 73 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: in the offseason from a personal standpoint, finding his center 74 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: a little bit, getting comfortable with just who he is, 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: where he is in his life. That's all. That's all 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: fine and good. I was frankly fascinated in some ways 77 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: by what he was talking about with the on the 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: field stuff, and not that it was so much a 79 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: groundbreaking um discussion, but a reminder in a sense of 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: of how everything at the quarterback position works together and 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: how there's a chain reaction with everything. And he kind 82 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: of went through it where it's like, Okay, his comfort 83 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: level in the offense, he feels like he's got some 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: better footwork and then the better footwork leads to being 85 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: a little bit quicker through his progressions on the past plays, 86 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: and being quicker through the progressions leads to better balance 87 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: when he's dropping back in the pocket and and setting 88 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: his feet, and then the better balance leads to better 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: accuracy with the throws. And it's like you can see, 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: it's like everything is connected. There's there's this chain reaction. 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: It's like you know that old schoolhouse rock you know 92 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: song video that I used to watch as a kid. 93 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a reminder of how complex the quarterback 94 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: position is and yet how easy somebody like Rogers, who 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: was so experienced and so accomplished um can make it 96 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: look at times. And yet it sounds like he really 97 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: went back and did a lot of studying of himself 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: in the offseason, say, oh kay, how do I really 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: get back to where I was when I was playing 100 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: at my best? Even though I'm not as young as 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: I used to be obviously, But how do I get 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: back there? What's it going to take? And he's been 103 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: he's been putting that chain reaction together and it showed 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: on the practice field for sure these last few weeks. Yeah, 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. I most of glad 106 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: you brought up a schoolhouse rock. I'm on the I'm 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: on the northern end of that eighteen to thirty four 108 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: demo now, So there might be more kids out there 109 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: that don't know exactly what you're referring to, but I 110 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: did and I appreciated it. No, But the thing about 111 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, like, there's only two maybe three positions 112 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: where I think you are able to actually four, and 113 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: when you look at Larry Fitzgerald, probably four positions where 114 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: you're able to kind of reinvent yourself throughout the course 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: of career. A lot of times NFL careers don't last 116 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: long enough for you to evolve. Quarterback is one of 117 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: those spots, though, And that's what kind of hit home 118 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: with me with Rogers is that, yeah, there are certain 119 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: things he's going to be able to do ten years 120 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: ago that he wasn't able to do that he's not 121 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: able to do now. But that goes vice versa. I mean, 122 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: there's things that he's picked up on the last ten years. 123 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: It's bringing back maybe some of those ideas. And again 124 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: this is all speculation on my part. He's not going 125 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: to go into it right now, what he's seen or 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: what he thinks. But I just think that when you 127 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: have a fifteen year career like that, there's so much 128 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you can learn from not only knowing what you know now, 129 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: but seeing what you did then and how that potentially 130 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: equated to games. One. The thing that really does stand 131 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: out to me, Thoway, is the second year in Matt 132 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: Lafleur's offense. And you've talked about it a lot this summer. 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: I even wrote about this an Insider inbox. I don't 134 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: know if you agreed with me or not, but you know, 135 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: someone had asked if if he just you know where 136 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the offense is and and and are they you know, 137 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: are they clicking and all those sort of things, And 138 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: the way I looked at it was relative to the competition. 139 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I think they are much farther ahead right now than 140 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: they were last year. I think they look a lot 141 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: better going into the regular season than they did last year, 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: keeping in mind grading on a curve with everything that's 143 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: happened with the COVID offseason, And to be honest with you, 144 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: when this thing started a month ago and we started 145 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: watching practices three weeks ago, I was really kind of 146 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: holding my breath. I wasn't sure exactly how this was 147 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna look. You know, when you have a virtual off 148 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: season program, you are going through the installs, you are 149 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: having the classroom sessions. But Mike, you've been on online classes, 150 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: you know what these things are like. I mean, it's 151 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: not always easy to keep someone's attention for six hours 152 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: when you're just doing conversations and interactions this way. But 153 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: to Matt Laflore's credit to Nathaniel Hackett, whatever they did 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: during the virtual off season, it allowed them to really 155 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: pick up and every organization did it differently. But those 156 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: words that Mark Murphy said right at the beginning of 157 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: this pandemic, I think was probably the first comment out 158 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: of the organization after we were all kind of in 159 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: the holding pattern about how teams that respond the best 160 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: to this are gonna be the ones that get out 161 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: of the gate fastest we can. We will only know 162 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: what we know when we see them get out on 163 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the field at US Bank Stadium in two weeks. But 164 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: agreement Packers, for my eye for what I thought this 165 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: camp could be, really exceeded my expectations. Yeah, I mean, 166 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I think there's no question based on what Rogers said 167 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 1: based on what we've seen from guys like Aaron Jones, 168 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, Davante Adams, all of the main states on offense. Now, 169 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: obviously the Packers still have to figure out exactly what's 170 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: going on on the right side of the offensive line. 171 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: There are some depth chart decisions and whatnot that need 172 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: to be made. But in terms of the main stays, 173 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: the guys you know are gonna be there. You're gonna 174 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: be counting on them every week. There's no question that 175 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: being in the second year of the system has has 176 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: put everybody just at a greater ease in terms of 177 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: how to go how to go out and execute and 178 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: uh and and get the job done. So obviously the 179 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: proof will be in the pudding, as you say, come 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the game against the Minnesota Vikings and and moving forward 181 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: from there. But the big news that will be happening 182 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: this weekend is by three pm Central Time on Saturday, 183 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: that is the deadline by which the Packers and all 184 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL have to trim their rosters to 185 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: fifty three. Pretty much everybody has been at an eight 186 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: man roster at this point, which is ten players less 187 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: than the usual ninety man um at this stage of things, 188 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: but the roster will be reduced to fifty three on 189 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, and then after a waiver period of slightly 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: under twenty four hours, then teams can start to build 191 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: their practice squads. Players that have cleared waivers, they can 192 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: they can sign them with the practice squad. And there 193 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of different rules and and whatnot this 194 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: year with regard to the practice squad West. So I'll 195 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: start with you. We can talk about this a little 196 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: bit just to explain to the fans how things are 197 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit different this year after 198 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: the cutdown to fifty three. There's some different rules and 199 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: regulations that have been put in place because of the 200 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic. Yeah. So the thing that's actually 201 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: kind of eye opening with this, I was thinking about 202 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: this coming into work today. This practice squad has doubled 203 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: in size in like four years. Yeah, it's pretty incredible. 204 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: I remember listening to Mike McCarthy talk about this and 205 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: probably must spent two thousand fourteen or fifteen when the 206 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: ideas started coming out of moving it to ten. Well, 207 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: then with the new c b A it was going 208 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: to twelve, and then with the like two thousand two, 209 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna go to fourteen. And then this year. One 210 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: of the measures that they it in place, and this 211 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: was put in place when teams weren't even allowed to 212 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: bring guys in for workouts at the time, was a 213 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: six team player practice squad with four of those players 214 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: basically for the simplicity of this and you and I 215 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: not having to read off a piece of paper, basically 216 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: allowing any type of veteran to be on the practice 217 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: squad as well. In the past, there was originally there 218 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: was a rule that if you were on an active 219 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: roster for more than nine games in a season, you 220 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: no longer were practice quade eligible. They threw that out 221 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: a few years ago, which was a good move. The 222 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: one thing I've been stumping for the last few years 223 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: is until a guy reaches veteran vested status, they should 224 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: have the ability to be on a practice squad. I 225 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: don't It doesn't make sense to me why you wouldn't 226 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: want to give them that opportunity because for a veteran, 227 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the example of jay Ron Elliott. It's 228 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: been very tough for him to get going again here 229 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have any practice squad traditional availability left. 230 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: So what I'm interested to see what the Packers do 231 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: here is you always hate this process. Guys didn't get 232 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: preseason games to prove themselves. But at the same time, 233 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: there are only eighty guys on the roster right now. 234 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: They do have to get down to fifty three, but 235 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: as soon as they're done with that the next day, 236 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna add sixteen more guys. They're gonna have sixty 237 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: nine guys in practice on Monday at least eligible to practice. 238 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: So in compared to what traditionally was the cutdowns, there 239 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: isn't as many guys that are necessarily gonna not have 240 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: jobs come a week from now. But it's going to 241 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: be seeing what the Packers decided to do with those 242 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: four veteran spots. Do they use them? Do they just 243 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: keep it with young guys. That's what I'm really fascinated by, 244 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: because I have to be honest with you, I don't 245 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: even know if those contracts have to be different than 246 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: the than the traditional uh you know, practice squad salary, 247 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: which has a base but really not a ceiling like 248 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: our guys gonna be trying to get bigger deals out 249 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: of that. I don't know, but the fact of the 250 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: matter is, without having these weekly workouts, are being able 251 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: to have as much freedom to bring guys in or 252 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: claim a guy like maybe you know Tyler Irvin and 253 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: just have them play the next Sunday like they did 254 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: last year. They're gonna have to be a little bit 255 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: more creative the last thing with the practice squad this 256 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: year and actually moving forward now, I believe you have 257 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: the ability to bring up guys on a weekly basis, 258 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: two players from your practice squad to put on the 259 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: game day roster, and they will get a game check 260 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: and you can bring them back down without having to 261 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: have this big waiver process and signing guys and cutting 262 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: them like they had to do with Evan Bayliss last 263 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: year when they were working through some injuries at tight end. 264 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating. There has nothing, but never 265 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: been anything like it before. It's the closest thing I 266 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: think you're seeing too, like a Triple A minor league 267 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: system in the NFL. And I'm personally as a nerd 268 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: with this kind of stuff, I'm just captivated to see 269 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: how teams go about utilizing this because I think there's 270 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of movement. Yeah, there's a couple 271 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: of things that work here that is going to be 272 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: uh you know, part of this process throughout the weekend. 273 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: One is that without any preseason games, there isn't anything 274 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: really for teams to study recent film of players on 275 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: other teams who might get released and then be available 276 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: on waivers. So I think now not to say that 277 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: there won't be any waiver claims across the league, I'm 278 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: not saying that, but I think there's a there's a 279 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: good chance that there will be fewer because you're just 280 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: not gonna know as much about those players all you all, 281 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: you still have to go on on somebody else's player, 282 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: is their college film and where you had them ranked 283 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: going into the draft, so to speak, as opposed to 284 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: getting to see three or four games of preseason film 285 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: and go okay, yeah, that guy is actually better than 286 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: a guy that we have here, so let's make a 287 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: claim on him and put him on the roster. So 288 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: with there being less of that going on, and as 289 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: you said, West, there are a lot more restrictions this 290 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: year as we get into the regular season in terms 291 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: of bringing guys in for workouts, being able to sign 292 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: a guy off the street, and then suit him up. 293 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, with the testing protocols and and other things, 294 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: it's not going to be as as simple and as 295 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: easy as it used to be. So in that respect, 296 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: you have the fifty three man roster four Week one 297 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: against Minnesota, but there's gonna be just as much int 298 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: as to who those six team guys are on the 299 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: practice squad, because if you're going to be making roster 300 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: moves here and there throughout the season, it's it's going 301 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: to be, for the most part, be those guys on 302 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: the practice squad, And looking at it from a math perspective, 303 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: eighty guys in training camp if it's going to be 304 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: reduced to sixty nine, And as I said before, if 305 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to be claiming a bunch of guys 306 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: from other teams, you're only really moving on in essence, 307 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: from eleven players potentially from what you've had on the 308 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: practice field so far this year. So you're gonna know 309 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot about these guys you're you're And then, as 310 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: you said, the veteran exemptions and whatnot, how teams use those? 311 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Are they going to have four and five and six 312 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: year veterans like sort of in reserve ready to go 313 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: if they need, you know, an extra guy for a 314 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: game day, that kind of thing. So there are a 315 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: lot of things that are going to be different this year. 316 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be just as intriguing to 317 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: see who ends up on the practice squad as who 318 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: ends up on the fifty three because in a lot 319 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: of way is that fifty three is just for week one, 320 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of things that could change 321 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: about that active roster, even right away heading into game 322 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: number two, after whatever happens on the first weekend. Yeah, 323 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's funny you mentioned that to about the eleven guys. 324 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Will in that eleven, you're gonna be counting in the 325 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: I R guys and the pup guys. They all get 326 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: factored into that there might be like four guys that 327 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: are actually not gonna be able to be on this 328 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: year's team. I mean, that's just the way this process 329 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: has gone, the I R thing. I'll bring that up now, 330 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: well will I mentioned it? Now? You have the freedom. 331 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Now the guys have to be carried through the fifty 332 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: three man roster in order to do this, but you 333 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: will have the freedom to designate those players to return 334 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: at any point after three weeks and after three weeks 335 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: usually it's six and then you have to be you know, 336 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: a two week acclamation period. Now it's three weeks they 337 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: can return to practice and then that opens a twenty 338 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: one day window for them to actually get activated. So 339 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: there is gonna be so much flexibility compared to two 340 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve when this whole designated return things started 341 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: in At the moment that Cedric Benson got the list, 342 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: Frank the Packers had to say, okay, this is our 343 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: player who's designated to return, and when he had to 344 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: have surgery later in the season, that didn't matter. You 345 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: just lost it and that was the only guy you 346 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: could bring back on your fifty three man roster. I 347 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: like that. No longer a team is going to be 348 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: in a position where they have to carry guys that 349 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: are gonna maybe miss four or five six weeks, and 350 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: then you know, you potentially you're putting out other guys 351 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: that are banged up onto the field. They needed to 352 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: eliminate that. I thought this was a good first step. 353 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: And then also to mention this, someone else asked Insider 354 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: in box, well do you think you know, with the 355 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: way they're doing these rules, now could veterans. Do you 356 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: think you're probably gonna keep more veterans on the fifty 357 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: three and you keep more young guys on the practice squad? 358 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: Be honest with you, I'll be very interesting to see 359 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: how the league handles this. I think you're gonna see 360 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: more rookies on the fifty three, and I think you're 361 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna see more veterans that could potentially be brought up 362 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: for games around special teams on practice squads. I really 363 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: do think that that's a possibility right now because teams 364 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: wanting to protect investments of other prospects out there that 365 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: other teams might have liked and not want them to 366 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: get away. Mike, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, I will be glued 367 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: to my computer, screen, my iPhone, my television, uh, seeing 368 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: how these rosters take form before the Packers get back 369 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: out on the practice field Monday. It is going to 370 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: be some heck of television to watch well as we 371 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: get to Saturday afternoon and the selection of the fifty 372 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: three man roster. I know you and I have some 373 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: different thoughts on maybe what's gonna happen, maybe not. I 374 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: just want to throw this question out your way. An 375 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie. Inevitably always there's at least one that makes 376 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: the Packers fifty three man roster. I'm curious what you 377 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: what would you set as sort of the over under 378 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: number this year on undrafted rookies? You think one? Do 379 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: you think too? Like? What? What? What are your thoughts 380 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: in terms of how many could h could make it 381 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: in the quest start of the season. Yeah, great question. 382 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, last year there was only one. It was 383 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Darius Shepard and he was a tryout guy that really 384 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: kind of blew me away. Now, there were some guys 385 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: that stuck around on the practice squad and eventually got opportunities, 386 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: but that was something that was kind of like, oh wow, 387 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: that was sort of eye opening. The one thing that 388 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: has sort of changed with this is the Packers have 389 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: actually been using that practice squad is more of a 390 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: developed developmental system. So you've seen your your Robert Tonyans 391 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: and some of these other guys sort of rise through 392 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: the ranks and then they make the team for the 393 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: first time, but they're not typically like undrafted rookies. So 394 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: to your question, I would probably set the line at 395 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: maybe one point five, maybe two point five. I think 396 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: for sure there's gonna be at least one. There's always one, 397 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: and I think there's some really good candidates on this roster. 398 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: But the great thing about this process is inevitably every 399 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: year there's a couple of guys that make it that 400 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I didn't see that happening. I didn't 401 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: think like that. Now, that's the difference between West hot 402 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Coowits the digital reporter that goes home at night and 403 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: place Pokemon versus Brian Goodakunst, who is doing this for 404 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: a living with all of his scouts. There's guys that 405 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: they take a liking to that they want to get 406 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: a deeper look at. But to your original thing, Mike, 407 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: this is where it's gonna get interesting. It's gonna take 408 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: organizations that had real interest in those undrafted rookies to 409 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: bring them on and put them on a fifty three blind. 410 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot of you know, nerves 411 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: about that. I saw Mike McCarthy not wanting to put 412 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: the jersey numbers on guys during the practice that they televised. 413 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, all these teams 414 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: have to make really difficult decisions getting down to fifty three. 415 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: There's always gonna be a couple of guys that get claimed. 416 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: But I wonder if league wise, league wide, that number 417 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: is going to be down just because you're you only 418 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: have fifty three spots and you're gonna have to do 419 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: a blind the original question, I'd say one point five 420 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: would be where I would set the line on that. Yeah, 421 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: And just to clarify for fans on how this works 422 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: when we talk about waiver claims and whatnot, if you 423 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: claim someone on waivers, you have to make a spot 424 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: for that player on your fifty three man roster. It's 425 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: not you can. It's not being able to claim somebody 426 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: on waivers and then say, oh, we're putting them on 427 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: the practice squad. It doesn't work that way. A waiver 428 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: claim means that guy has to be on your fifty three. 429 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: So then if you're at fifty three, you have to 430 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: make a corresponding move and release somebody else in order 431 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: to fit that guy in. And sometimes you know how 432 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: this works west and again this is where this year 433 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: it could be a little different than other years. But 434 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: some of these calculations always come into play some of 435 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: the final spots on Okay, who's gonna be on the 436 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: fifty three, and who do you see if you can 437 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: clear waivers to get him onto the practice squad. Sometimes 438 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: it's the personnel staff looking at what is the rest 439 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: of the league's opinion of this guy, because if they're like, 440 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: if nobody knows anything about this guy, but they know 441 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot about this other guy, and this guy has 442 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: a good chance to get claimed and we lose him, 443 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: that's the guy who goes on the fifty three, and 444 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: the other guy that they don't know anything about probably 445 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: isn't going to get claimed. So then they're like, we 446 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: still want to keep him around, so we'll waive him, 447 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: but then bring him back to the practice squad. So 448 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: those sometimes are the calculations is not even necessarily so 449 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: much who's the better player, but who's the player that 450 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: we have the best chance to still keep if we 451 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: have to make him available to the rest of the league. 452 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: So those sorts of machinations and calculations are are brought 453 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: into this two. It's it's one of those things you'd 454 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: love to be a fly on the wall in, you know, 455 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: the in the personnel room when they're they're talking about 456 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: this stuff and making these decisions, But you know, the 457 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: conversations go on. Sometimes you just don't know how extensive 458 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: it is, how hard some decisions are, or how easy 459 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: other decisions are when it comes right down to it. Well, 460 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: and then again talking about how difficult it is sometimes 461 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: for teams of open spots. I mean, Alan Lazard got 462 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: waived at the end of camp last year. That was 463 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I was surprised by that. I thought he had gotten 464 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: a spot. Now they only had one between him and 465 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: Darius Shephard. They went with Shephard, who was their kickoff 466 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: and punt returner for the first few weeks. But then 467 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: when a roster spot came open later that week, Lizard 468 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: was elevated. But how that's how close you get to 469 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: potentially losing him and just to go back and you know, 470 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: now there were a couple of years down the road 471 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: you can talk about this. Basically, there was no chance 472 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: that Tim Boyle was gonna get cut in two thousand eighteen. 473 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: The packers had seemed too much. They wanted to have 474 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: him in the fold, so they made that decision. This 475 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: is a guy we can't you can't expose him. He 476 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: showed too much. We like his arm too much, so 477 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna go in. Even I think that Kansas of 478 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: the game at the end, could have went terrible and 479 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: Tim would have still ended up making the roster. But 480 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: you see what's happened then, I mean, he's become a 481 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: bona fide number two and a guy that they feel 482 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: confident about behind Aaron Rodgers. Those are the decisions you 483 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: have to make. You have to trust your gut. You 484 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: usually have very little info to go off of. I mean, 485 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: as much as you learn from those preseason games, they 486 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: are very vanilla. And again it's I'm sure there's gonna 487 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: be some sleepless nights both in Green Day and across 488 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: the league trying to hope that you get the guys 489 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: you want, not only on your fifty three but also 490 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: when you're building that sixteen man practice sque Yeah. Well, 491 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: we will have all the news for you on Packers 492 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: dot Com late in the day on Saturday the fifty 493 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: three man roster, and then some point late in the 494 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: day on Sunday, we will hear from general manager Brian 495 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Goodacons to his media session will be streamed live on 496 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: the website and through Sunday and Monday all the practice 497 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: squad decisions will be made and Monday at practice, the 498 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: goal is to have your sixty nine guys at least 499 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: for week one that that's what you uh, you move 500 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: forward with. So it's gonna be a weekend of a 501 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: lot of news and plenty to follow on packers dot com. 502 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: But for now we will sign off caller to wrap 503 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Thank you for tuning 504 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: in everybody for Wes I am Mike. We will see 505 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: you next time.