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Speaker 1: I'm James that smooth and as you can see, we

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Speaker 1: are celebrating the Great.

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Speaker 2: Eight finally breaking the record. Is he the best d

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Speaker 2: m V athlete of all time? I think so? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Over there Green, that was I was about to say,

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Speaker 3: did Dary had to break the intercession record to beat Ovi?

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Speaker 2: Is he beats rayin grids? It's a really tough call.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel I never feel comfortable putting anybody over

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Speaker 1: d Green And you can get caught up in the moment.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, Ovechkin makes a how case.

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Speaker 3: I played with Degree. Yeah, I understand the greatness the

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Speaker 3: twenty plus years.

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Speaker 2: But OVI got that too, Yeah he sure does.

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Speaker 3: But with him doing what he did, Like when I

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Speaker 3: watched the cartoon on Sunday morning, I mean Saturday morning,

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, bo Jackson, Wayne Gretzky on this cartoon.

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Speaker 2: I never thought anybody break their record.

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Speaker 3: Like never, like never, and for this guy to do it,

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Speaker 3: not only break it, but he still.

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Speaker 2: Got some some some time on the buck.

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Speaker 1: He has more than forty goals to should the Caps

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Speaker 1: for argue the best team in the NHL.

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Speaker 3: I don't see him retiring next year just because he

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Speaker 3: broke the record, Like, not only is he gonna break

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Speaker 3: the record, he's broken in the record, he gonna add

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Speaker 3: to it. Like I'm actually more excited for nine hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's kinda that's where my mind at, Like I've

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Speaker 3: been nine hundred since this chase started. Like everybody was like,

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Speaker 3: I want him to break it. I was like, naw,

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Speaker 3: I want him to shatter it. Yeah, Like I want

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Speaker 2: Nine hundred and he might can get to a thousand.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a tall to ask, but I will.

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Speaker 1: He has scored at least thirty goals in nineteen of

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Speaker 1: twenty seasons. He scored at least forty goals. I believe

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Speaker 1: in fourteen of those seasons. That's sort of consistency. Even

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Speaker 1: Gretzky said, look, the first five hundred, that comes easy

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Speaker 1: if you're a goal scorer. But then later on your

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Speaker 1: body starts to break down. Yeah we started. Ov broke

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Speaker 1: his leg. No this year, this past season year Canvember.

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Speaker 3: Listen came back from a broke leg like it was

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Speaker 1: Off Russian machine.

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Speaker 3: He did not care like that. What I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 3: this record to me is unbelievable, like I know, and

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Speaker 3: then I'm hearing these this hate and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's from the rayn Gritsky purious because they said, wow,

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Speaker 3: he had a thousand more shots on goal and I'm like, uh,

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Speaker 3: the scoring zone is smaller, like so you can't fight

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Speaker 3: greatness like everybody want to. And we was talking before

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Speaker 3: the show, what's the equivalent in football to this, it's

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Speaker 3: Jerry Rice? Probably, Yeah, do you see anybody breaking Jerry

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Speaker 3: Rice's receiving record because and for a small second, and

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Speaker 3: Tonio Brown scared me. Yeah, he had this three year,

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Speaker 3: he might if he keeps this up, he might get

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Speaker 2: Yeah it didn't happen, but because he went't crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he did, Yeah, totally went crazy. But like in football,

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Speaker 3: what what's the equivalent? Oh man, there's some old records

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably Jerry's record, and he's just a

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Speaker 2: What's that is not the image smill for Russian record?

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Speaker 1: It could be the only one. The only reason why

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Speaker 2: Everything's cyclical, So maybe it will be.

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Speaker 1: But in the role that and also Emmett had the

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Speaker 3: Emmitt his availability, yes, never being hurt was his best.

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Speaker 3: Like like when we talk about players, there's always some

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Speaker 3: like you can't tackle him, right, nobody can tackle this dude.

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Speaker 3: I think Bo Jackson was a better running back, this

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Speaker 3: with Emmett. So that's what sends me to Jerry Mississippi's

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Speaker 3: fineness and I am from Mississippi. I'm from where do

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Speaker 3: you go, Mississippi Valley State, Mississippi Valley State. He had

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Speaker 3: actually went to Houston. Yeah right, so most definitely like, no,

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Speaker 3: Jerry is the guy. Jerry is the measuring stick. Question

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Speaker 3: Can it be broken? And if it can, is anybody

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Speaker 1: Because I think Jamar I was gonna say Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 1: I think Jamar Chase probably the one. Maybe Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Jeff here's the thing. If Jamar Chase also, you have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I put him before Justin Jenkins because Jason, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson. I put him before him because I don't

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Speaker 2: Might be great, might be great, but I know, right,

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Speaker 3: So Jamal Chase is the guy if I had to

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Speaker 3: put all right, he go to guy that can break

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Speaker 4: He's the guy.

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 1: It just goes to show, though, when you're talking about

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Speaker 2: Some of these guys are Hall of famers.

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Speaker 1: For Kevin Jones, yeah, four or five, six years and

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Speaker 1: they're solid, but ain't tending the highest of high levels

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Speaker 2: That's rare air. Yeah, most definitely.

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Speaker 3: And you hate to see your favorite players put on different.

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Speaker 2: Jerseys like it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Like nobody remembers Jerry Rice as a Seattle Seahawk.

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Speaker 2: He played for Denver for a while, bounced around.

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Speaker 3: Nobody remembers that guy, but that guy added to those numbers, Like,

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Speaker 2: Put it, he added to that. And I'll never forget.

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Speaker 3: I remember playing the forty nine ers for the first

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Speaker 3: my idol, Jerry Rice, and I was that week. I

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Speaker 2: I'm about to play Jerry Rice. How am I going

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Speaker 2: to stop him? I had to get on the phone.

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Speaker 3: I called my uncle Julian, who taught me how to

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Speaker 3: play football, okay, and I'm like, Uncle, which his favorite

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Speaker 3: player is Jared right, but you're my favorite player.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I can't help you. I'm like, what should

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Speaker 2: I do? He like, you should pray? Is that what

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Speaker 3: You should pray and trust yourself. Trusting yourself got you here? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: trusting yourself gonna get you through this game. Trust the work,

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Speaker 2: And it was so like serious to me because I

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Speaker 3: It was humbling. Yeah, to play him, it was totally humbling.

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Speaker 3: And then my uncle said something to me, you like,

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Speaker 2: Let's start there. How the game go by the way

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Speaker 3: He was like, just know you younger than him, right,

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Speaker 3: you spride in him.

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Speaker 2: You got an edge. Take advantage of that edge. All right.

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Speaker 2: I know how we look at him, and I know

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Speaker 2: how we put him on a pedestal. He's a dude.

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Speaker 2: You are, dude, go out there and win this battle.

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Speaker 2: Like That's what my uncle told.

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Speaker 1: Is that the one time or one of the few

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Speaker 2: I mean you've walked into the locker.

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Speaker 2: Well, my first game ever, I was like totally in ah.

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Speaker 3: Like my first game as a rookie San Diego Chargers,

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Speaker 3: I remember walking out of the locker room. Doug Flootie

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Speaker 2: So I'm close to Ladanian. Uh. Then you got a.

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Speaker 3: Who else was out there? Linebacker? Junior Junior say listen

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Speaker 3: to me. I thought it was three of him.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Junior said, he made so many players.

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Speaker 3: I was like, twin out here, like what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Like Junior say, I like, so Harrison Safety, like so

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Speaker 3: on their field. And if you forget San Diego, Padres

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Speaker 1: So it was a Jack Murphy study or something.

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Speaker 3: It literally had this hard dirt out there, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, what are we doing? Like you couldn't fathom

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Speaker 3: that in twenty twenty five, Yes, like nobody plays on

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Speaker 3: them clicks. It's like skating, like it's hard to do.

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Speaker 3: So it was, it was, it was different, man.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I remember the one time I was blown away because look,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome talking pro aalllygs still get me wrong, but

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Speaker 1: if you're in this business long enough, like the job

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Speaker 1: is the job, the job is the job.

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Speaker 2: So after a while like this is cool.

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Speaker 1: But what excites me is meeting other great sportscasters, people

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Speaker 2: And oh, I was. That was one of those moments, men.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was like that with Terry Bradshaw.

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Speaker 2: Was he good? And he was great?

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Speaker 1: Really? I was like, dude, what can you not do?

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Speaker 2: But when I say uber talented, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Terry Bradshaw could be one of the most talented people.

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Speaker 3: And I've always thought that of myself, Like I was,

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Speaker 1: Everybody of mind tell me years ago he met Terry

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Speaker 2: And he said. Bradshaw is standing there alone, and he

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Speaker 1: He goes, all right, from one ass to another, here

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Speaker 2: Very down there. I love me some. Terry Bradshaw one

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Speaker 1: And you know what's funny too, Terry leans into the

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Speaker 2: This is the dawn, that's right.

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Speaker 1: But the funny thing is every now and then, what's

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Speaker 3: No, he's he's very grunkish in the way he goes

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Speaker 2: No he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's very intelligent, very smart. He knows what he's doing

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Speaker 3: at all times. He's putting those legos white where he

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Speaker 3: wants to put yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I want to wrap things up over by saying

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Speaker 2: You know, we do this all the time with football,

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Speaker 1: In basketball it's difficult to compare errors, right, we at

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you this as a guy that's about

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Speaker 3: to have a farm.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're looking at building a farm as a

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Speaker 1: guy that florakers, Yes, a guy that's.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the bill of farm. You can have more

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Speaker 2: than one goat in your yard. It's legal in America.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm tired of the Lebrun against Jordan. I'm a

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Speaker 3: I can have my goat, could have babies, and it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just it's okay, It's all right, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be singular, like everybody wants everything

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Speaker 2: Like in music, who is your goat? Because you know

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Speaker 1: Put on as a solo artist. It might be MG

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Speaker 3: Both coats, Like I'm saying, it could be more than

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm tired of people, won't every young

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Speaker 2: gravy who that yeah one hit wonder from my last year, Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was a big Milly Vanilli I loved out.

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Speaker 2: They didn't actually sing their all songs brutal, it was great.

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Speaker 2: be you could never get away with that? Now listen,

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Speaker 2: Like? What did they do in live shows? They lip SYNCD?

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Speaker 1: And you know what's funny about that? Before Knut they

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Speaker 2: And I was like, no, he goes Milli Vanilli. They

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Speaker 1: They would just like play the CD because that's how

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Speaker 1: I remember reading about it was they won a Grammy

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Speaker 1: If we win the Grammy, too much attention, too many

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Speaker 3: If anybody knows where Milli Vanilli is right now, tell

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Speaker 3: us like, that's just like us find out Michael Jackson

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Speaker 2: Oh he's terrible. That don't work like that can't happen.

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Speaker 2: Prince can't see. No, they cannot happen. Nearly, but nearly.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know we owe Michael.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, everyone's like, I was like, are these guys? Like?

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Speaker 2: It was wild? They tried to come on. I remember

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Speaker 2: the Arsenial Hall show.

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Speaker 1: They came on rebranded Robin Fab and they sing their

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Speaker 2: Rob is not the same. Listen like.

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Speaker 3: It was the biggest plunder of all time. So stop

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Speaker 3: Therviskin hate. That's why we we dug in this rabbit hole. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because of the Vishkin hate, because of Wayne Gretzky, you

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Speaker 3: could be a peerless and you can be.

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Speaker 2: You can still like the guy that made the floor good. Right.

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Speaker 3: But OV is the ciling. Yeah, o V is the

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Speaker 1: Cheers with the great ad and I love that under

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Speaker 1: his fans, like the entire crowd knew they were watching history,

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Speaker 2: It was awesome. You know.

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Speaker 3: The only people right now happy is Carolina fans because

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Speaker 3: they didn't want him to do it right playing against

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Speaker 2: But Islands they didn't care. They was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Get it done perfect for them. They won the game

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Speaker 2: That's not the perfect I want a history right now.

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Speaker 3: That Islands they don't care. They went to JITs, that's what.

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Speaker 3: Let's just get the job done. The JITs, the nets

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Speaker 2: Sweet music this weekend. That was the case for Shador

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Speaker 1: He went like forty eight of fifty three something like

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Speaker 2: At three we talked about the ov Haight.

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Speaker 3: Shador is getting the same type hate he is getting

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Speaker 3: hic right, because you know why, because his daddy was

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Speaker 2: He's everything his daddy is not. Deon was when Dean

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Speaker 3: Like his daddy was the biggest enemy of all times

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Speaker 2: And his son is a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So his son is every opposite of him, right, But

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Speaker 3: he still has the Sanders flash. Yes, And because he's

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Speaker 3: not this hyper uber athlete, they want to demean him

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Speaker 3: a little bit. They say his swagger is too No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: he's a quarterback. If your quarterback ain't got this swag,

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Speaker 3: he ain't good in no way, all right, So you.

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Speaker 2: Have to at that position. It's just a hard position,

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Speaker 3: I think Shader is more Tom Brady than anything, and

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Speaker 3: He's he throws.

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Speaker 2: Like playing against Tom.

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Speaker 3: The one thing when I went into the week I

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Speaker 3: to be a step ahead when I have to play

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Speaker 2: Yes, should do it, gonna do the same thing. He's

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Speaker 3: I think you he's gonna he gonna let the coverage

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Speaker 2: I'm throwing here. He's not gonna play that game that way.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna say he's gonna hike the ball and say,

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Speaker 3: I'm throwing it now, I'm getting it out. I think

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Speaker 3: big city ready, meaning what hasn't he taken on in Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Well, the one thing that will not face him ever

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Speaker 1: The spotlight is nothing. It's almost like city agnostic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like you could play in butute Mont doesn't. You're

439
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Speaker 1: going to get all the attention anyway. No matter where

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Speaker 1: he goes, it's going to be attention.

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Speaker 2: Like if he goes to Cleveland. That just just praying, like, please,

442
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Speaker 2: just I hope the Browns don't take me.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I told you I ran into a deer the

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Speaker 3: other day. He said, he leaving Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: You did not economy.

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Speaker 3: Economy is bad, he said, he thinking about moving to Virginia.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that. I think he is going

448
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Speaker 3: to be a good player now he goes. One thing

449
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Speaker 3: I don't want. I want him to be a day

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Speaker 3: one starter. I think he needs to sit at least

451
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Speaker 3: a year. I think he needs to see a year.

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Speaker 3: I think he needs to practice with pro players because

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Speaker 3: his game is more mental than physical. And if you

454
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Speaker 3: just throw him out there and say be the savior,

455
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Speaker 3: you're setting him up to fail. I've seen this happen.

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Speaker 4: It's for a lot of your time.

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Speaker 3: I've seen this happen a million times. Sam Bradford, I

458
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Speaker 3: want to compare him to Sam Brafford. Sam Brafford is

459
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Speaker 3: the last quarterback to be paid when the draft.

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Speaker 2: Was not capped.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, because he got paid like seventy

462
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Speaker 1: million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It hadn't played it down.

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Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about that.

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Speaker 2: That's wrong, right, he did stink olmost Yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: just well, I know your Texas at Oklahoma. Like he

467
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Speaker 2: was bad relatives to that money. I mean he was bad.

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Speaker 3: No, he was bad. Yeah, but he was tossed to

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Speaker 3: the dolls. He was tossed to the wolves, like jenx

470
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Speaker 3: is is not his fault. Like sometime with athletes, it's the.

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Speaker 2: Higher up's fault.

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Speaker 3: First of all, if you're a forty five fifty year

473
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Speaker 3: old man and your job is to be the GM

474
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Speaker 3: and set kids up, kids up for success, white throw

475
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Speaker 3: them to the woods when they're not ready.

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Speaker 1: It's that it's that pressure of and you know how

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Speaker 1: the NFL gets. They just cannot resist taking a young

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Speaker 1: guy out of college, taking because quarterback are always overdrafted,

479
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Speaker 1: always every single year, and then saying I gotta start him,

480
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Speaker 1: I gotta start him.

481
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Speaker 2: You's so much harder to be paid. Everybody not ready

482
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Speaker 2: to start, right, everybody's.

483
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Speaker 3: Not ready to start, Like, especially in this league, is

484
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Speaker 3: just too fast.

485
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Speaker 2: It's too forward, it's too in your face. It's furious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like some people need a year to really

487
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Speaker 3: get going. And I think, to me, if somebody gives

488
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Speaker 3: your door and then what, I think maybe the New

489
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Speaker 3: York Giants might be the best spot for you.

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably and he could learn from Russ

491
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Speaker 2: for a year.

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Speaker 3: Who are you more afraid of Russ or Jamis? Because

493
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Speaker 3: I'm more afraid of Jamis.

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid of James. Like I'm sorry, I'm more afraid

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Speaker 2: of James than I am politician.

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Speaker 3: Russ, Like he already came out with a slogan, go

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Speaker 3: big Blue.

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Speaker 2: That's the way to keep it simple, Go big I said,

499
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Speaker 2: this dude is so like he is. He's the most

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Speaker 2: corporate player you know who.

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Speaker 3: I compare him too. Who's that Carton off of Fresh

502
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Speaker 3: first Principal? He's Carton to the fullies he is, by golly,

503
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Speaker 3: like he is Alfonso Roberto.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who he is. Like, that's who he is.

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Speaker 3: And I just can't Russ can't escape it, like he

506
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Speaker 3: can't escape who he is.

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Speaker 2: And you know, by the way, he's a Virginia guy.

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Speaker 1: So he's like we interviewed Alfons of Robert a few

509
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Speaker 1: years ago. It was out of this golf tournament out

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Speaker 1: in Tahoe, and he was there. A bunch of celebrities

511
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Speaker 1: were there, and the buddy in mind and I were

512
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Speaker 1: both doing the interview, and it was like, is either.

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Speaker 2: One of us? Because you know how many times you

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Speaker 2: think he's been asked about the Carlton. He's got to

515
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Speaker 2: be sick of. Yeah. I was like, I am not

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Speaker 2: going to be If you got a dance name after you,

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Speaker 2: it's cool, but.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine every single time you do an interview, they're

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Speaker 1: probably like, can you do the Carlton?

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Speaker 2: You're the Carlton? So do you like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So he probably feels like a show clown or.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, because he's done other things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he hosts like a America's Funniest on

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Speaker 2: videos or he was someone.

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Speaker 3: I seen him on a talk show and you know

527
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Speaker 3: the talk show where people come out and they danced

528
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Speaker 3: through the holly before they get there, and people were

529
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Speaker 3: so mad that he didn't do the car.

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. They were so light.

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Speaker 3: Because I was waiting, I was like, it's got to

532
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Speaker 3: happen at one more. I know he didn't do it.

533
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Speaker 3: He did it on purpose. He did it on purpose

534
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Speaker 3: because he's tired of being branded right by this thing.

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Speaker 2: But this is who you are, I know. That's why

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Speaker 2: we didn't ask the question. I was like, I'm not

537
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Speaker 2: doing it. You didn't ask him, neither of us.

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Speaker 1: We asked him about his projects he was working on,

539
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Speaker 1: about the tournament, about the golf game, about people he

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Speaker 1: was hanging out with, but never asked him about it. A coward,

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Speaker 1: I know you A coward. I'm glad I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna give this guy break.

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Speaker 3: This is supposed to be Big Jay journalism. And you

544
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Speaker 3: were scanned the ex card about the cart.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if asking y'all Fonzo Rivera about the

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Speaker 1: Carlton is Big Jay Jurman like people they need us fan,

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Speaker 1: so I know you've been asked. He'd be like, nope, out.

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Speaker 3: All I'm saying is when we get chat used to

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Speaker 3: sit down with these people. It's our obligation, Jinks, to

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Speaker 3: give the people what they want.

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Speaker 2: And you cowered.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you that's older.

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Speaker 1: You remember Will Clark when he played, all right, when

555
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Speaker 1: he was when they had the Major League Baseball strike.

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Speaker 2: I was an intern in Austin, right, so I'm still

557
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Speaker 2: learning the.

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Speaker 1: Ropes and the baseball strike was happening, so baseball players

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Speaker 1: were taken off. Will Clark, he's a country boy, big

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Speaker 1: time country boy. He was at like a hunting expedition,

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Speaker 1: and so my boss was like, hey, go with the

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Speaker 1: camera guy, go ask Will Clark about the baseball strike?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, okay, So I'm nervous, you know,

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Speaker 2: go up to him.

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Speaker 1: And so he, by the way, he's holding the shotgun.

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Speaker 1: It's some hunting expedition outdoors in Austin, and so he's

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Speaker 1: got you know, the cam on, he's holding the gun.

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Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I'll talk to you.

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Speaker 1: He goes, but one thing, don't ask me about the

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Speaker 1: baseball strike. The main reason, the only reason why I

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Speaker 1: was there. I was like, well, if he said no,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to do it. So I asked him about,

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Speaker 1: are you enjoying the time off here?

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Speaker 2: I worked around a little bit, asked him about it.

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Speaker 1: And then when I'm done, the cameraman grabs the microphone

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Speaker 1: from me, turns it on, throws it back in Will

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Speaker 1: Clark's face and says, well, what are your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the baseball strike?

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Speaker 2: And Will Clark just held that gun, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, he didn't answer the question, and it didn't help you.

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Speaker 1: It didn't help our reputation. What was the benefit there,

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Speaker 1: except I thought Will Clark was gonna shoot me for

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Speaker 1: a second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been to say, like is cocked.

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Speaker 1: So if a guy's not gonna talk about something, probably

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Speaker 1: not gonna talk about this Big Jay Jourrenal lives.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, terrified?

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Speaker 4: No base of bills?

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Speaker 2: Why not? Let's do it? Anna? You want to read something?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 5: Why the hell not? All right, hold on, let me

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Speaker 5: find my ASDs.

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Speaker 2: Come on now, you gotta be on your stuff.

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Speaker 2: coming off with the Shelley got logan coming in? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: most definitely. You know what under draft guru?

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Speaker 3: Okay he's the draft nerd oh okay, he used analytics

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Speaker 3: to find out who the draft.

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Speaker 2: I use field touch and talk, oh field touch. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I need to talk to the athlete, like I need

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Speaker 3: to tell I need to talk to the athlete so

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Speaker 3: I can see what drives the.

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Speaker 2: And your gut little bit, yes, like I.

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Speaker 3: Can't put numbers in a computer. I don't care about

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Speaker 3: many times you bench two twenty five because you're never

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Speaker 2: Isn't not the standard? Like two twenty five whatever? And

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Speaker 2: I'm just I don't care about that. I care about how.

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Speaker 3: Do you play in between the lines when the lights

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Speaker 3: of the brightiest the brightest. How do you attack the field?

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Speaker 3: How do you play? And how do you connect with

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Speaker 3: your teammates? That's what I like.

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Speaker 4: Voicemails.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, we want to hear from

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Speaker 6: some of the fans. Yeah, what we got seven O

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Speaker 2: Most definitely a few of you have been.

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Speaker 5: Reaching out to us on there, so for sure.

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Speaker 2: All right, I just gotta say one thing very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I had people. I had someone d M me

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Speaker 1: show Anna. I'm like, listen, this is not my this

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Speaker 1: is I am not preventing Anna personally. So basically, Hannah

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Speaker 1: wants to appear. She's we would love to have Anna.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what you are.

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Speaker 6: My god, I know Jason Fraid could not handle the

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Speaker 6: spotlight being taken away.

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Speaker 1: So that's yeah, Anna, listen, you do a great job, but.

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, all right, let me cut up the audio.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for all that you do. Thank you and

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Speaker 8: the whole drafts and picks that we have had. Uh

657
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 8: enjoyed the picture between mestors, both investors spring on d

658
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 8: tackle and edge rusher. And my point is, why can

659
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 8: we have a feast out of the tackle and a beast

660
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 8: out of rusher?

661
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: Why can we have both? The point we have one one.

662
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 8: Besides that, I'm excited for this season. I like the

663
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 8: direction that I'm Peter just taking this team. And look

664
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 8: over to here anymore.

665
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: Quite a bit.

666
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 8: Uh, this is a ka Persian cowboy.

667
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: All right? So you say Persian cowboy, I guess.

668
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: All right, Well, you know, person like horse racing is

669
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: very big. They got some of the best horses in

670
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 3: America that we do. Have an island here between Maryland

671
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: and Virginia.

672
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: Is that place called? Uh?

673
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: On the tip of my tau was like, we gotta

674
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: go there. No iland, it's an island.

675
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: Where's another horse, wild horses on it, and the shinky

676
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: tig all right, and they and they swim, they swim

677
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: back and forth from and they wild beautiful horses right here.

678
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: You can only see this in the d m V,

679
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: so come on to the DMVST.

680
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: You did, but it was awesome, It was really cool.

681
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 6: I took a boat tour with my aunt and my

682
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 6: grandma and we loved every minute.

683
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

684
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they were like they were really cute.

685
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, but apparently like some of them

686
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 6: are pretty pretty feisty.

687
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: No, they're aggressive. They wowd steer.

688
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 5: Clear of the horses.

689
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most definitely they are wild horses.

690
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: And listen, it's actually similar to what happens with a pig.

691
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: Like most people don't understand that when you let a

692
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: pig out and it's not domesticated anymore, it's a wild boar, right,

693
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: And when it becomes a wild boar, it grows hair

694
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: mm hmm, and it grows tusk, right when you domesticated hairless, tuskless.

695
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: So that's showing you that animals adapt, they adapt to

696
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: their fashion, and that's what the wild horses are doing,

697
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: they adapting to their things.

698
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: So I'm with him. I'm good. Yeah, Persian cowboy.

699
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: Oh okay, you're talking. Do we want a beast?

700
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: He said?

701
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 6: I think we can have as abast on the d

702
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 6: line and a beast edge.

703
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: I think from what we all do.

704
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: And first of all, I want to say in Peter's

705
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: retrust all right, and I think he's did a great

706
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: job in the free agency to the point where he

707
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: doesn't have to go into the draft trying to eliminate

708
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: any position. Yeah, Like, of course everybody wants to say edge.

709
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: They said edge last year and.

710
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: We had a guy with ten sacks, like you know

711
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: until you know.

712
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: Like that's the thing about football, Like everybody likes to

713
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: put names and equate it to numbers.

714
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: That ain't the way it goes. Every year is different.

715
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: Just because you got Miles Garrett, don't mean Miles Garrett gonna.

716
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: Be a twenty sack guy. Right.

717
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: Give people chance to go out there and make plays.

718
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: But if we go edge, I got one edge right

719
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: here in my beer.

720
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: I love it. James Pierce Jr. I love it.

721
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: Now.

722
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: My counterpart and the hater in the room, Logan Pauls

723
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: doesn't feel the way I feel about it.

724
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 6: For those of you who can't see, Logan snuffs giving

725
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 6: more field.

726
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: He's more numerical, Fred technical. He's technical like he's more analytical.

727
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: I do smoothalytics. He do analytics. I look through clear

728
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: lenses to see what I want to see.

729
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: You guys, you have a great like sitcom, like a

730
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: buddy sitcom.

731
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: Who me and yeah, yeah, it's.

732
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: It's a love hate relationship, right, yeah it is. We're

733
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 3: totally different but totally the same. And I think this,

734
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: what kind of do They love the sport? But they

735
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: couldn't be more different? Like they like totally different.

736
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: Like almost Three's comedy. You remember Three's coming. Oh yeah,

737
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 2: they're all different, they all the same. Okay, and let's

738
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: give us the wrap. I gotta bring in Logan here.

739
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: And before we do, can I just say please?

740
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: It's time for your hot ticket presented by seag Oh

741
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: yeah Logan this summer, Seegeek has your ticket to the

742
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: best live concerts in the DMV at Northwest Stadium. See

743
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: Geek the official primary ticketing partner of Northwest Stadium.

744
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: Let's bring the man in as promised. The man is

745
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: here in the flesh, Logan in the half. You know

746
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: what's funny?

747
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 9: It was to me it Shu Springs, Right, you can

748
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 9: be more different than chungs free the blue foot out.

749
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: And clear like a clear composition.

750
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: Just we got some new cameras working out the King's ship.

751
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: Just the white balance will be good to go. Listen,

752
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: this is Shune Springs.

753
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: I want to say that this is him from Ohio State.

754
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 2: No, don't let no, no, don't left the TV.

755
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: Can We probably probably way about the same right now?

756
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: Actually, no, the same time right now. He's just short.

757
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: So you were talking about smooth, talking about smootalytic. You're

758
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: into analytics, but I have seen the notes that you

759
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: take and I'm process always fascinates me. So when you

760
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: look at evaluating a particular talent, like what is your

761
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: process going through lookingto tape and.

762
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: Writing down what you see, what you like, what you do.

763
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is uh this, I mean Fred

764
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 4: could probably speak to this too. It's it's extremely challenging. Yes,

765
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: it is so subjective. So, like we were just talking,

766
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: I was watching some guys before I came over here,

767
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: and it just kind of taking like Shamar Stewart as

768
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: an example, yeah, and comparing him to Donovan Azeraku, Like

769
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: they're both edged rushers busting college for Donovan as Raku

770
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: Shamar Stewards Texas am and one's two hundred and eighty pounds,

771
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: he's sixty six. He's a physical freak, and one's like

772
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 4: a really technical, nuanced pass rusher. They both have value

773
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: depending on the system that they're in, right one's very

774
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: technically raw, one's very technically proficient, so but one's a

775
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 4: physical freak and one's a little bit more normal. Yeah,

776
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: and so like how do you weigh that out right?

777
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: And so I think it also depends on who you're

778
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: kind of scouting for team, what the team's going to value,

779
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: and so that's where it gets really complicated, I think.

780
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: And again, it's all about trying to mitigate risk the

781
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: best way possible. I think that's one of the reasons

782
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: you see all these different outlets, like you know, someone's

783
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 4: got donovant Azaraku at ten, somebody's got him.

784
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: At forty forty three.

785
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: Like it's because it's a subjective measurement. There's no like

786
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: this is the right solution. So I think it's just

787
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: about navigating what I believe makes a good pro like

788
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: work ethic, playing hard. There's got to be a technical proficiency.

789
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: And it's really challenging because then you get a guy

790
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: like Shavon Rivel from East Carolina who is a corner

791
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: who was injured this whole year, but in twenty twenty

792
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: three looked like he was going to be a top

793
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: ten pick. Yeah, so how do you weigh that? And

794
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 4: so there's all these different things to go into it,

795
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: and ultimately just got to say, like what plays Like

796
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 4: what what makes a good football player at the NFL level?

797
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: It's hard work, it's physicality, and it's got to be

798
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: a little bit of technical proficiency.

799
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well, see this is where Smoothalytics beats him,

800
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: because guy, wait, mine on the what made sure we

801
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: was here?

802
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 2: One word love? All right? We may mom and dad

803
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: loved each other at one point.

804
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, I don't know where we're going right now,

805
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: this is it, but I'm playing off now.

806
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: Once I know a guy loves the game, yes, okay,

807
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: that's when I am all in on him, Like I

808
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: need to talk to him, I need to see him,

809
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: I need to ask him questions because college is a

810
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: precursor of what you can be. Now once you get

811
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: to the league. You've made it to Mount Olympus. Now

812
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do? Like, now, what motivates you like

813
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: to get these guys here, they're all motivated by getting

814
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: to the league. Once you get here, the only thing

815
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: that's gonna keep you in this league is you have

816
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: to uniquely have a intangible love for the game. And

817
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: if you don't have that love for the game. This

818
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: league will weed you out and spit you out.

819
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: So I am one of those.

820
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: Once I can see a guy and I know he

821
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: loves the game, I'm gonna give him the benefit of

822
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: the doubt over a guy that's more talented than him.

823
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's one of the things that's

824
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: really hard for us because we only have the film,

825
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: it's hard to quantify. We're get to go talk to

826
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: the guys and so I think, you know, everyone says, like,

827
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 4: what's the most important part about the combine, It's definitely

828
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: the interviews because we got to figure out if they

829
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 4: love the game, if they're passion about football, if they

830
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 4: want to get better, if there's this drive to kind

831
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: of get better. But you know, like so I say

832
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: hard work on the field, Like I feel like if

833
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: a guy's going to work hard on the field, they're

834
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: going to do the little things right. So they got

835
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: to have some type of love for the game. So

836
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: that's my way of kind of taking Fred's thing and

837
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: saying how much do you love the game? Because that's

838
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: extremely important. I want guys that are passionate, that love

839
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: the love game, they love the game, that are going

840
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: to try and get better. And it was one of

841
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 4: the things about last year's class that are really it

842
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: reminded me of in my process. It's like, if you

843
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: don't love it, I don't care how physically gifted you are,

844
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And so yeah, making

845
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: sure like and I think that's the hardest part to

846
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: determine is like, you know, you can ask a guy,

847
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: you know, you've got an interview, You're gonna lie a

848
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: little bit.

849
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: Sure, exaggerated a little bit.

850
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Janks, do you like working here?

851
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

852
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: I love working here, kid, Yeah, that's the best rapping

853
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: him in.

854
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: You're gonna lie a little That's the best job I've

855
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: ever had. So so working through that and.

856
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: Getting to the core of what you'd like, I think

857
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: is really important, you know.

858
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: So Yeah, and the thing that you can't you can't

859
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: like the love for the game. You have to show

860
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: it why you're doing the process. Like it's one of

861
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: them things where like he said, I could ask you

862
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: and you could just sit here in my face, and

863
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: he loved it. But some guys, if you literally six

864
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: six three hundred pounds, you already got God's gifts. You

865
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: don't have to love what you do. I just do

866
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: it because I was built for it. Like, so dig

867
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: on the thing, like that's what I want to weave out.

868
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: I want the guys that love the game, because to me,

869
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: if you love the game, you're gonna get better every year.

870
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 3: Like people feel like you get worse as you get older,

871
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: I feel like you get better because your mental is

872
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: on top of everything.

873
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: It feels.

874
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: I got a name for you, Ola Fimi oladaisio from UCLA.

875
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: I wait to say that.

876
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 4: I didn't know where he was from, didn't know anything

877
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: about him. He plays edge rusher's converted off ball linebacker.

878
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: You go to see its heter ball and this guy

879
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: is hooping and hollering. Everybody's getting high fives. He's like

880
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 4: the emotional energizer Bunny and again like that's one part

881
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 4: of the process. But you can tell he loves ball.

882
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: You know, he loves me. What he on the He's

883
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: a little bit of stuff. He's got some athletic limitations,

884
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: but that's a guy you're gonna bet on him some

885
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: Time's gonna be really happy with that because he's going

886
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: to find a way to improve year on year because

887
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: he's passionate about football, and he's like, I got these leaders,

888
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 4: you know, like what it means to be a commander,

889
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: Like watching the Senior Bowl watching him down there, I

890
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: was like, that's what it means to be a commander.

891
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: I actually exd my my coach who I'm very still

892
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: close with Meevin Smith was my defensive back coach at

893
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: Massipi State, and I asked him a couple of years ago,

894
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: what did you tell the pros about me?

895
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: Like nobody ever axes, there's another big way that you

896
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: can find out about.

897
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: How someone is, really, like how to few you? And

898
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: I say, I like, when they asked you about me?

899
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: What did you tell him about me? He was like, Fred,

900
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: that's how you talk.

901
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: I told him simply, he loves to practice.

902
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: Like that's good, he loved because I love the practice,

903
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 3: like I feel like I ain't want to be nowhere else,

904
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: I'd rather be right here, Like I took practice as

905
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: serious I took the game. He was like, I told him,

906
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: you love to practice, and you take things like you

907
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: might joke around, but you take them very very seriously.

908
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 3: And I was like, now I understand, Like I love

909
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: the game, Like that's what it was about. I'd love

910
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: to practice and I love the game because I love

911
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: to learn. And if you love to learn, you gonna

912
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: learn every day of your life like I'm learning it

913
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: as a parent, like you learn every day.

914
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

915
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: I think that's the other thing too. It's like you

916
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 4: gotta love you gotta love Sundays, right or Saturdays in college.

917
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: You gotta love that. But it's the guys that can

918
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: go study, you know, go grind the tape, go hit

919
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: the extra reps, hit the weight room a little bit more,

920
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: that are the ones that I got. I'm just trying

921
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 4: to think back. I don't think I ever played with

922
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: a guy who wasn't like that on some level. Yeah,

923
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: there were guys who are really talented. Everyone studies, you know,

924
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: everyone preps every and the guys that are in for

925
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: a long time they do that at a really high level.

926
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: So I think that's where it's like all these interviews,

927
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: all this all this stuff is to kind of get

928
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: to the kernel of who this guy is and kind

929
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: of get around, you know, knowing that coaches are gonna

930
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: lie for their players, getting you know, like be an

931
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: investigator a little bit. And unfortunately, in this out of

932
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: we don't get to do that. But that's that's the kernel,

933
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: that's like the main.

934
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: The main thing. I'll give you a chance to chat

935
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: yourself a little bit here. It's an inexact science.

936
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: We an'll know it.

937
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Like it's hard to nobody's going to one hundred percent

938
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: know who's going to be a great.

939
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: No perfect, there's no perfect prospect ever, But who.

940
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: Is someone maybe in the past that you scouted that

941
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: you saw maybe a touch under the radar relative to attention.

942
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: You thought, I think this guy is going to be

943
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: a stud or a very productive pro player, and you

944
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: turned out to be right.

945
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: Oh man. It's so interesting because it just depends on

946
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 4: like you know obviously, like when you're evaluating guys the

947
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 4: first round player, like you have different expectations for them

948
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: as opposed to.

949
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: It could be like a layer round.

950
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to think through I should I should.

951
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: Looked on my list. I give you one and you

952
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: can go back and you can you can go back.

953
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 4: And say the end of the day on the show friends,

954
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 4: like I went ten for ten last year.

955
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 10: You said some craziness like, hey, it's inexact, but also

956
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 10: I went yet, I will give you a prospect that

957
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 10: I was just sohow because I was like, he's just

958
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 10: a football player.

959
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't care what he run in the forty. I

960
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: don't care how he looks, I don't care nothing. The

961
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: more I watch him, the more it's just like, just

962
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: get the ball, Just get the ball in his hand.

963
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: It was Deebo Samuels, and you can guess Jay j

964
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: can go back years when I had when he was

965
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: coming out in the draft, and I was like, I

966
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: don't care what you say, he's a baller. I like

967
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: football players, and football players cannot be quantified by numbers.

968
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: They quantified by film. I like to watch film.

969
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: When I watched film on Deebo Samuel's, what I saw

970
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: was I don't care how you put the ball in

971
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: my hands.

972
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: Just put it in my hands and let me go.

973
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: Let me figure it out. And some at least like this.

974
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: They will not jump off of your page on numbers.

975
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: They just won't. Like he will not beat anybody in numbers.

976
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: Jerry Rice was never the fastest, was never the biggest,

977
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: was never the strongest. He was the best, the best.

978
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: Barry Sam's never the strongest, never the biggest best. This

979
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 3: league shows you all the time when you measure a

980
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: guy with these measurables, they never live up to it.

981
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: I've watched it over and over.

982
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: Reggie white outweighs the Jadeveon Clowney. Clowny had all the measurables,

983
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 3: everything you want in a d N but the hardest different.

984
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: It pumps. It pumps different, right when you get guys

985
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: in this league, it pumps different, Like you don't know

986
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 3: if a guy gonna make it in this league. Uteam

987
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: gets here, all right. And the only guy that I

988
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: could say to this day their numbers met their measurements

989
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: and they actually went to the league and did that

990
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: was Jamar Chase.

991
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: He's the only.

992
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: Athlete I've ever literally gauged his numbers against his talent

993
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: and it all measured up.

994
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 4: And Julio Jones, j listen, but I think just keep going.

995
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: I think better. I'm sorry, but I'm saying you're saying that. So,

996
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 4: like that's why it's like the numbers give you thresholds,

997
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 4: give you parameters. Right, So if a corner runs a

998
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: four to seven, I'm not drafting him.

999
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: They don't mean he can't be a good player, But.

1000
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: What's he gonna do. He's gonna play tight end well.

1001
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: He could be run da bober but Bundie butter ran

1002
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: a four five. Is what I'm saying, is a four

1003
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: five people look at like you.

1004
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 4: But I'm saying if you came out here with your

1005
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: stopwatch and you saw some run a four to seven,

1006
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: they're like, I'm gonna play corner in the NFL, You'd

1007
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: be like, no, no, don't. I'm okay, there's this guy

1008
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: over here runs a four five.

1009
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: Now now you know me. I'd be like, I can

1010
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: teach you. You know, I'd be like, you know what,

1011
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: I can raise you in the way of child. I

1012
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: can give you the gist.

1013
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: I can I can help you maneuver because if I

1014
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: can put this, if we're a zone team, I can

1015
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: I can make that four seven survive.

1016
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: I know, but it's the NFL. Man. You gotta play

1017
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: little bit man coverage. You gotta get matchups.

1018
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: Like I totally, I totally understand what you're saying. I

1019
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: just think football is so situational and so coach based.

1020
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: It is, no doubt.

1021
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: And that's the other thing you asked me about prospects,

1022
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: Like that's one thing that I keep coming back to.

1023
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 4: It's like, when we did this, we're doing like, what,

1024
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: it's a guaranteed ballers, right, Bob to take me to

1025
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 4: the draft show, and I was like, there's a guy

1026
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: Colson Loveland who plays for Michigan, right, yeah, And I

1027
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: was like, if he goes to the right spot, he'll

1028
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: be the best offensive player coming out next You'll be

1029
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: the best offensive player if he goes to the right spot. Yeah,

1030
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: But it's so situational. I think about Rock Bowers, right,

1031
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: they got you picked Rock bout, Like, they didn't have

1032
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: a they had a terrible running game, they didn't have

1033
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: a true number one receiver, so he becomes a number

1034
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: one receiver. He basically gets farm targets. It reminds me

1035
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 4: like zach Ertz in like twenty fourteen when he was

1036
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 4: at Philly and then he had like one hundred and

1037
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: fifteen catches. Their offense was objectively bad, but he had

1038
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: a good year, right, And so like you need the

1039
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: right situation to kind of foster these great performances by

1040
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: these rookies. So I agree, like it's coaching, it's environment,

1041
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: it's all these situations that come in. But again, like

1042
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: I want to make sure I want to if I'm

1043
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: doing my evaluation, you want to mitigate risk as much

1044
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: as possible. So Colson Loveland runs a four or five

1045
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: sixty six, he's two forty five, Like he checks a

1046
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 4: lot of boxes. His short area shuttles very good, right,

1047
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: So like I'm not I'm mitigating risk by saying, you know,

1048
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: he always like the guy Harold's fan and Junior from

1049
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: bullying Green.

1050
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: Which you would not have. I don't know.

1051
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with him.

1052
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: I think you I don't.

1053
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: I could never, I could never throw this in your left.

1054
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: But I think you hate him because his body is bad.

1055
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: He's got a bad buddy. Look at this, but I

1056
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: mean a real and I look like mashed potatoes. So

1057
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: that's like, you know, it's a tough deal.

1058
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: Man.

1059
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: It's tight with Low and K and I brought him up.

1060
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: You obviously he's ash, I just because he's Work's body.

1061
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you watch the Penn State game, You're like, man,

1062
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: this dude's bawling. Yeah, and you watch him the Senior Bowl.

1063
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: He separates, but it just doesn't it's something. It doesn't

1064
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 4: look right. Yeah, you know what I mean. I don't

1065
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: know what to say. If you watch Harold, Fad and

1066
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: Junior telling what you think is not.

1067
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: He's built like a Volkswagon beat And so.

1068
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: The other thing is he's six, he's like six three

1069
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: and a half. He's like two for he's like not

1070
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: like a big guy, and so he's like basically a

1071
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 4: slot wide receiver, but he runs a four to seven.

1072
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, you like him, you're in on him.

1073
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: He's very productive.

1074
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: Hey he is.

1075
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: His film's good now, so you're in on him. No,

1076
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 4: because you're you're watching film, You're not you're not worried

1077
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: about you.

1078
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: Left such a file taste in my mouth. Then you're

1079
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: ruining for me, Like I tried to watch No, Like,

1080
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna.

1081
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 4: Do it because Logan just feels like I will say

1082
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: if he is a commander, but I think he's he's

1083
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 4: been very productive. He led the nation in receptions last.

1084
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: Year, would say, indeed, so he did up here.

1085
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. So again that's one where it's like you got

1086
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Speaker 4: to try to you got to try to push the

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Speaker 4: bias back and say is it just because it doesn't

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Speaker 4: look normal?

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Speaker 2: But guess what?

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Speaker 1: How how honest to God? Like now, I know, like

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Speaker 1: you're born in a certain way, your body is a

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Speaker 1: certain structure, but there are athletes will see who don't

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Speaker 1: have athletic Like, how does that happen in the college black?

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Speaker 2: I cure you this, I tell you this pound of pound.

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Speaker 3: The worst body I ever seen in the NFL was

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Speaker 3: one Jermaine Wiggins. Yes, yeah, my tight end for the

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Speaker 3: Minnesota bike. When Wiggins walked in the locker room, I

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Speaker 3: was like, keep your shirt on them, very productive, like

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Speaker 3: you're not didn he win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Like I was like, Wiggan, what is that? He was like,

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Speaker 2: That's my body. This is how I look. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna change it. Like you a pro athlete? Do you

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Speaker 2: ever repeat that?

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Speaker 3: He was like, no, the worst body pound for pound

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Speaker 3: player though nobody could stop it.

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Speaker 4: Just like the old man at the you know what

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Speaker 4: it's like.

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Speaker 3: You've never seen a handle like yeah with the knee

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Speaker 3: breaks home, that just just plays defensive shoot three like

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Speaker 3: Wiggins was the same way.

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Speaker 2: Wiggo.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm about to throw up in

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Speaker 3: my own mouth looking at your body like it was terrible.

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Speaker 2: So could Fanning be Jermaine Wiggins the second?

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is he's it works like you

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Speaker 4: watch him at the senior ball. So that's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: like the college, all right, and he's winning. He can't

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Speaker 4: run every route, but you can run a corner, you're

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Speaker 4: in a post, run a steam and he creates a

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Speaker 4: ton of separation. And like I was actually talking to

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Speaker 4: another draft person. They were saying it because his knee

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Speaker 4: is inside of his foot, because he's knock need, he's

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Speaker 4: able to like that's that's your everyone's trying to get

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Speaker 4: to that position when you make a cut, and he's

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Speaker 4: already there. He's there, So maybe that's just why he's

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Speaker 4: so good at it. And it just looks so again,

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Speaker 4: like it's it's that. This is something I always have

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Speaker 4: to negotiate is when people have the same number as

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Speaker 4: a bad player, you're like, oh, that's so and so number.

1131
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Speaker 4: That number is this person who is really bad or

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Speaker 4: they just don't look normal, they don't looked apart. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like like like you know who you know? It was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I felt that way about who's the tight end for

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Speaker 4: Baltimore when he came out he had the weirdest like

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Speaker 4: heavy footed kind of and so and I missed it.

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Speaker 4: I missed because I couldn't get past that so arrow

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Speaker 4: fan in junior. Every time I watch him, like remember

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Speaker 4: Mark Andrews. Just try to get past it. Can it work?

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Speaker 2: Is it a thing? And so it's the Beauty Queen

1141
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Speaker 2: with the day of two of them? Man, But it's not, though,

1142
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Speaker 2: is it? Because it's incomplete?

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Speaker 1: It's an extreme example.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you like nine and a half fingers and

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Speaker 2: you don't know until you talk to it. But does

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Speaker 2: it work?

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Speaker 4: Does it work?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 4: That's I don't know if the beauty does it work?

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Speaker 4: If it works if a girl's got a dead tooth,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like that takes away beauty queen automatic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like maybe maybe the finger thing.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, Like I don't see those fingers all the time.

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Speaker 2: You can wear a glove, yeah, just wear gloves there

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Speaker 2: where we go, please as everywhere we go. And that

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Speaker 2: that's your draft analysis. I don't think we got anything

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Speaker 2: that I think we got. We get here, listen to me.

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Speaker 4: I can't do shows with you guys. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: like a nice outline. When I came in and talking

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Speaker 4: about it was.

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Speaker 2: The worst segments.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know it was.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what I said.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen man.

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Speaker 3: Technical Later we got inside, we talked about Jamaine Wikas,

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Speaker 3: that's all, that's all the matters.

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Speaker 2: Great guys, that's a great body.

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