1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Family Secrets is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: they are Family Secrets listeners. It's Danny here with some 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: thoughts to share with you on Thanksgiving, because Thanksgiving and 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: family secrets go together like well, like turkey and stuffing, 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: sweet potatoes and marshmallows, cranberry sauce, and I'll stop there. 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't even like cranberry sauce. I think it's safe 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: to say that Thanksgiving stirs up a lot of stuff 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: from many of us. I mean, why do you think 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: there are so many movies and so many novels that 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: are dysfunctional family stories said at the Thanksgiving table or 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving weekend. I know a few people who don't 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: feel anything but joy as the holiday's approach. People who 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: have easy, blessed, open, completely unconditionally loving relationships with all 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: their relatives. People who bound out of bed on Thanksgiving 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: morning in their homes where family members who have already 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: gathered from far and wide are in the kitchen, coffee 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: mugs in hand, dressing the turkey, pre heating the oven 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: to four fifty, playing scrabble or what have you. And 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy for these people, I really am. But many 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: of us have slightly more complicated situations. For some of us, 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: there's loss. For instance, my husband's father died two years 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: ago just after Thanksgiving, and let's just say he had 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: a very large presence. So when we gathered today, there 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: will be a sense of absence, of loss, of things 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: left unseid and undone. When my mother was living, the 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: holiday was incredibly fraught for me. I was her only child, 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: and I felt I had to be with her, though 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: I really didn't want to be. One year, my husband 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: and I hosted a huge friends giving just so there 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: would be enough people at the table to absorb my 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: mother's toxicity. Seventeen people around the table at our small 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: apartment in the York City. After the holiday, our friends 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: escorted my mother the few blocks back to her building. 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: I was doing the dishes when the phone rang. It 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: was my mother and she was at the hospital. She 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: had fallen on the sidewalk just outside her apartment building 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: and was in the emergency room. She was still in 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: her fancy designer dress when we rushed to the e 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: r and when I walked in, I swear she looked 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: almost triumphant. She had gotten all the attention after all. 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: She looked at me gestured to her dress and asked, 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: is there blood on my unaro? Then she said, you 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: can't use that? Well here, I am sorry, but I'm 44 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: using it. It's just too good. This year, I've heard 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: so many family secrets. People listen to this podcast or 46 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: read my memoir Inheritance, and they tell me there's I've 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: heard from people who have discovered secrets were kept from them, 48 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: and I've heard from the secret keepers. I've heard from 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: people who feel liberated, ashamed, confused, people who are grieving, 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: are still in shock, or don't know what to do 51 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: with what they've learned. In one of my bonus episodes 52 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: last season, I spoke with the author and therapist Laurie Gottlieb, 53 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: and I asked her the question, do you think there's 54 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: ever a good reason to keep a secret? And Laurie's 55 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: answer was ultimately no, that no matter how difficult, shocking, 56 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: or painful, ultimately we're better off knowing. I think I 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: agree with this, because one way or another, were shaped 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: by the secrets we keep or the secrets that are 59 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: kept from us, whether we're aware of it or not. 60 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I do think, though, that there's a time and a 61 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: place for secrets to be revealed, and so I'd like 62 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: to humbly suggest that perhaps Thanksgiving isn't the time or 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: place emotions are running high. There's all the cultural and 64 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: societal pressure, all the Instagram posts of glowing candles and 65 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: brisk outdoor walks and perfect pumpkin pies, and many of 66 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: us find ourselves on edge. Whatever is going on inside 67 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: of us, it tends to be heightened, like the dial 68 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: inside of us that regulates our emotions got turned up 69 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: a few notches. So, my friends, right now, as you're 70 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: listening to this, stop for a moment. Just stop. Take 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: a breath, Take a deep breath. You can do this 72 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: wherever you're listening, in a car, in bed, in your kitchen, 73 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: while you're sticking that turkey in the oven, or facing 74 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: a sink full of dishes, while your family is all 75 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: around you. You can feel yourself breathing in, breathing out. 76 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: Get in touch with your own body, your own self, 77 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: your own heart. You've got this, And don't forget the 78 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: reasons all these people tend to push our buttons, trigger us, 79 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: make us feel all the feels. It's because there are family, 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: and whether we like them or not, we love them. 81 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: They're hours and also don't forget what this holiday is 82 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: really supposed to be about, giving thanks. I am thankful 83 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: to all of you. I never dreamt i'd create a podcast, 84 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: much less one that has found so many devoted listeners. 85 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: So here's to you. As I work on season three, 86 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: which will launch in early February, I'm incredibly grateful that 87 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I get to do this work and have the privilege 88 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: of hearing so many of your stories. Speaking of which, 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: if you'd like to call in and record your story 90 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: for possible bonus episode of Listeners Stories, please call one 91 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: eight eight Secret zero. That's one eight secret and the 92 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: number zero. We would love to hear from you. Happy 93 00:05:50,080 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: holidays all, mm hmmmm. 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