1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Arizona straight to the line. There's the snap to Murray. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Murray looks laugh, pumps once looking looking a lot of time. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Now we throve and he didn't suck a bout of life. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Picked up that sideline, picked up a blot at the 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: dirty twenty five twenty Amani ten five and he's spun 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: out a pounce right there. I say you, twenty four, 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I see you. Welcome to the twenty Men in the 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft. I am Tim twentyman. You 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: guys all know PJ. Clark and Peage were on the 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: road in Indianapolis. Here, you know, no starters. There was 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: no Amani or you area like like there was in 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: the in the opener there um and and look, you 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: know Jared Golf a lot of starters. Thirty two guys 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: including starters and injured guys didn't play to able to 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: gave you know, some backups and opportunity to play some 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: guys that could play some key roles if injuries happened. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: You know, some guys that are fighting for roster spots 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: and an opportunity to you know, maybe catch a coach's 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: eye and be in the conversation. When Brad Holmes and 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and and everybody sits down and decides who 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: the best fifty three guys on this roster are. And 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I guess twenty seven, twenty six win 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: for the lines. What's your biggest takeaway from Saturday's win. 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: I think the biggest takeaway is that it was a 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: win after a slow start, a lot of field goals 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: to start off the game, and then the two minute 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: drill to end the first half by David Blow. It 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: was good to see him finish a drive with a touchdown. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: I think that was much needed by by everybody, and 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: I think that set up the momentum. Good run defense, 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: good run offense, good you know, a tough, gritty game. 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: I think that's the way Dan Campbell wants these lines 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: to win this year. Even though it was the backups, 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think he loved the fact that his 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: football team ran for one hundred and seventy five yards 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: and held a Colts football team that was second in 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: the league in rushing last year, that had the leading 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: running rusher in Jonathan Now, Jonathan Taylor didn't play and Nelson, 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: some of those guys up front didn't play, but that's 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: still system predicated on the run. That's still a tough 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: football team that wants to run the football first. It 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: was still the same system. And to hold those guys 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: to thirty rushing yards. I thought the defensive line played terrific. 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I thought they were great all week. And then offensively 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: for guys like Evan Brown, Tommy Kramer, um, you know, 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: Logan Stenberg and really across the board to open up 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: some of the holes they did. And for guys like 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Greg Reynolds and Jamar Jefferson and god when Igwabookier, I 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: mess that up every time. I'm gonna get it eventually, 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: one of the It's only year two, but no, but 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: those guys are still taught. They were good, they were awesome, 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: and they ran the ball, controlled temple, controlled the clock. 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell when he sits down and watches 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: the film of this tonight, he's priority starting to do 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: it on the plane. Yeah, he's gonna love how those 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: guys played up front on both ends of the football. 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: I think this is the this is how he drew 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: it up. I know he said postgame that that Ben 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: Johnson was the one calling the plays today, and I 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: think that's another thing, another important point you Yeah, that 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: that Ben Johnson was in control and it worked. I mean, 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: there were a lot of field goals you would like 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: to see, you know, a couple drives stalled out early. 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: That first drive was moving the ball, moving the ball, 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: and once I get to the red zone, a little 66 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: bit tougher. And there were a lot of reasons for that. 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: I think most of the wide receivers that played today 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: were very small. Not a lot of jump ball opportunities 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: and close quarters down there where you have a Josh 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Reynolds or a DJ Chart. That's what these guys are 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: here for. And you know Calif Rayman is not giving 72 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: you that same jump had an opportunity, and yeah, I 73 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: couldn't come down with it. Just you know, that's a person, 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: l you know who you got on the field more 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: than anything else. But I think that Ben Johnson did 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: a very good job effectively calling this game and it 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: was wildly efficient on the ground. You know, in the win, 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: which you talked about off the top, why that was 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: so important. We've got a clip of Dan Campbell explaining 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: just why preseason week two is important to get a win. 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: It's important, It's very important, and especially the young team 82 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: and just you know where where we've been, where we're 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: coming from, and you know where we began to go 84 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Man, it's it's got 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: to be part of our DNA. It's got to be 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: become part of who we are. And we have to 87 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: embrace every moment and treat it like at your last moment, 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: and because if you don't and you just kind of 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: accept it, then you'll just be average. You're above average, 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: and that's not good enough in this league. So that's 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. I thought we got 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: better these two days, and I thought we got better today. 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: So this has been a good week for us, you know, 94 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: and that's important. We got better today, We've got we've 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: gotten better over the week. And and look like you 96 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: look at Baltimore and how many wins they've won in 97 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: the preseason. They take that series, right. I Mean, it's 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: a culture thing there, And that's kind of what Dan 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Campbell's trying to instill too, is that, yeah, it's the preseason, 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: in the in the ultimate grand scheme of things, wins 101 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: and losses don't matter, but they do to him, and 102 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: they do when you're talking about building the confidence of 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: young players, when you're talking about just building a winning 104 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: program and a winning atmosphere. That's why Saturday was important him. Yeah, 105 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: and I think it makes sense for what he's been 106 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: preaching this whole time is that they are not showing 107 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: up here even after a good two days of joint 108 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: practice and a lot of good work. As he's been 109 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: saying repeatedly, they're not showing up here to go lose 110 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: a game. They're here. They're here to win, no matter 111 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: who's on the field. He was an important game for 112 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: David Blow in Tim Boyle. I think that was one 113 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: of the things I was really looking at heading into 114 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: this game. We knew Jared Golf wasn't going to play, 115 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: so it was going to be the David Blow and 116 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Tim Boyle show. And David Blow started, which I think 117 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: he's earned over the first two weeks of camp. I 118 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: don't know if you would have or not, but I 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: think he's been probably the more consistent of the two, 120 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: not only last week in the presting game for Atlanta, 121 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: but a couple of weeks of training camp leading in 122 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: to this week. And you know, it was a good performance. 123 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: You know, I thought, like you mentioned, it was really 124 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: good for him to get that two minute drill at 125 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: the end. Look, he finished sixteen to twenty two for 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: seventy five yards, so you know a lot of short stuff. 127 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: He did rush for a couple first downs, had eighteen 128 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: yards on three attempts. Made one bad decision and that 129 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: was thrown high, a little bit high into coverage. Ball 130 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: flips up in the air, it's picked off, returned to 131 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: the lines twenty one yard line, I think it was, 132 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: or somewhere right around there. Defense does a great job 133 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: after great stand, allows no yards, forces you know, a 134 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: field goal. But you know, he made the mistake with 135 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: the fumble last week, and that was one thing Dan 136 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: Campbell said this week that he wanted to see from 137 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: those guys is let's not make that big mistake. And 138 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: so David did make a mistake that led to points. 139 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: It didn't kill him, and they won the game. And 140 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was an important last drive for him. 141 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: You know, an okay performance. That's how I would say. 142 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: It was okay too good, wasn't great, but it was efficient. 143 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: They scored I think three of the five possessions that 144 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: he had. They scored two field goals in a touchdown. 145 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: So look, playing the quarterback positions about moving the ball 146 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: and scoring points, and David blod did that. And I 147 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: think the two minute drill is the big takeaway there 148 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: is that they had the ball with a minute fifty 149 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: five seconds left and the half and had to go 150 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: down the field and had to put up points and 151 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: we hadn't seen him finish a drive yet, and it 152 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: was really I think it was imperative for him to 153 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: get into the end zone there and they were able 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: to do it. Just roll out to Tom Kennedy, right, Yeah, 155 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean you may as well at this point, and 156 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: then let's go to the second half because you've got um. 157 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Tim Boyle takes over. He starts a second half, does 158 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: a great job with that first drive. Um works them 159 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: right down the field and then boom, you know, gets 160 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: a jump from the Colts defense identifies it throws a 161 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: trific time, just like the one he threw to Function. Yeah, 162 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: he's two for two on fade. He's got that fade 163 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: route down and I think both were on opposite ends 164 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: of the one was on the last Yeah, one was 165 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: on the left and today was on the right. So 166 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: he's got him both ways covered. But and then who 167 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: makes the catch again? Obviously Tom Kennedy and what did 168 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: what did Dan Campbell have to say about told the 169 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: old Tom Kim, I'm gonna say something different than I 170 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: said last time, because I think I think I said dependable. 171 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: Is that what I said? He's very reliable. He's just reliable. 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: That's all he is. He's reliable, he is, and it's 173 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: hard to say anything else. Just for one hundred and 174 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: four yards last week. Let all NFL receivers after the 175 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: first week of the preseason. It catches two touchdowns this week, um, 176 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: and you know Tim Boyle certainly, um loved the first one. 177 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: And you know, to finish the point on Tim Boyle, 178 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: twelve or fifteen, very efficient ninety nine yards, was sacked 179 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but one of them certainly wasn't 180 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: his issue and it was a you know, a blown 181 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: block by the right tackle. UM. No turnovers, which was 182 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: which is important. And one hundred and sixteen point four 183 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: passer ratings, so um, you know I think it was 184 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 1: it was. You know, it was a really good performance 185 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: by Boil. One touchdown, no interceptions, of two scoring drives, 186 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: including the last one of the game. That was what 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: nine minutes, eighteen plays, just drove drove him right down 188 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: the field, and you know, that's a Dan Campbell drive peage. 189 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, like it's a tie game. Fourth quarter, let's 190 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: run the football, control it. I think it took over 191 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: nine minutes off the clock. I think he's setting the 192 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: tone for the real offensive line. We've talked about it 193 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: so much and is that this offensive line is going 194 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: to be a top five union in the league and 195 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: they are going to try to just beat these teams 196 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: down Layton games. Jamal Williams gonna get a lot of carries, right, 197 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna get a lot of And it was you know, 198 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: kudos to Tim boil for for you know, orchestrating that 199 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: whole thing using his legs a little bit. Um. He 200 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: got out of trouble a couple of times. A couple 201 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: of times. It made really good plays to avoid sex, 202 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: really good pocket presents there. And so you know, I thought, 203 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: probably if you're comparing the two quarterbacks, I think boils 204 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Day is probably a little better just because of the 205 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: two touchdown drives. And I think that last drive kind 206 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: of cements it for me. Even though you know, Blau 207 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: had that terrific two minute drive to end the first half. 208 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: It's really really close to me. I thought no one 209 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: really separated themselves. I don't think anybody's pulled away. You know, 210 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: they have certainly not pulled away. But I guess if 211 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I was forced to pick one, I'd say I thought 212 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: Boyle was maybe a little bit better, just because of 213 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the two touchdown drives. But that's something still that we're 214 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: going to really have to watch over this next week. 215 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: And then Pittsburgh's gonna be huge. I think that's really 216 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: good to decide it, and those guys have put themselves 217 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: in a position where it could really come down to 218 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: one preseason game that decides who is Jeered Golf's back 219 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: up going to the regular season. And you can look 220 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: back last year. I remember David had a really good 221 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: game in the Pittsburgh preseason game last year. He came 222 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: in in the second half through a lot to Tom 223 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: Kennedy and impressed there. So maybe Kennedy, maybe the pendulum 224 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: is just swinging back and forth. But Tom Kennedy will 225 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: be there in Pittsburgh. We've got to talk. He will 226 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: be in Pittsburgh, and he's probably gonna make a bunch 227 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: of plays. He's gonna have a touchdown. I'm just gonna 228 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: forecast it right now. I'm the twenty minute podcast because 229 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna be there and that's all he does is 230 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: make plays, right. And I thought it was really interesting 231 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: after the game page when we asked about um Tom 232 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Kennedy and obviously you heard the quote there from from coach, 233 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: but the fact that he was playing Gunner and Jammer, 234 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: oh they were trying to get him, and the fact 235 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: that he is the one who clinched the game by um, 236 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: you know, recovering the onside kick when you're the fifth 237 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: and sixth wide receiver on a football team, and that's 238 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: what what Tom Kenny's trying to be, right. Let's let's 239 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: be honest, Um, you have to be more than just 240 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: an offensive guy. Is to fix fifth, sixth guy. You've 241 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: got to be able to play special teams. You've got 242 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: to do some other things because look at it's gonna 243 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: be Chark and I'm on Ross, Saint Brown and Reynolds 244 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: and Jamo when he gets back. I mean, that's just 245 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: that's you have a core, that's the peck guy. But 246 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: those five six guys, the quintet ce Fast, the Trinidie, Benson, 247 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Tom Kennedy's those guys that are fighting for those last spots, 248 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: they've got to be able to do something else. They've 249 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: got to be able to do special teams. And Dan's like, 250 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: this guy won't go away. He just keeps making play. 251 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: So we have to find some things that he can do. 252 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: And I thought it was really good by Tom Kenny. 253 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: He got doubled on a gunner roll which allowed the 254 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: other guy to have single um single on the other side, 255 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: and threw a holding call on the opening kickoff for 256 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: the second half. Very much. I didn't have that on 257 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: my bingo cardon. But so it's it's it's those little 258 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: things that I think are stacking up to really help 259 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: Tom Kenny. To be honest with you, if it's me 260 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: right now, and um, I'm in that room and I'm 261 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: trying to decide the last couple spots. I think it's 262 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: really hard. I really like Quintez ce Fist. Now we 263 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: haven't seen him because of the leg injury for a 264 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and hopefully you know, we're gonna see 265 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: came back in practice. Came back in practice this week, 266 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: which just good. Hopefully we see a lot of him 267 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh because I think he brings a toughness, a 268 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: little different dynamic than what they have. More physical. He's 269 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: an a'm on raw tight, but he's got a little 270 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: bit more size than Alan Raw too and could play outside. 271 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: So I really like him. And then is it Tom Kennedy? 272 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Is it? Trinity Benson? Is it? You know? I was 273 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: gonna say, another guy you can throw on the Maris 274 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Alexander average thirty eight yards per kickoff return here Saturday 275 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and four kicks for over one hundred and fifty yards. 276 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, did some good things that I think caught 277 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: three passes for eighteen yards, which which wasn't bad either. 278 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,239 Speaker 1: But amongst those guys, it's like, you know, Moris Alexander 279 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: can return kicks, um, you know Trinitdie Benson can return 280 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: kicks in that speed it you know plays with He's 281 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: getting a lot of gunner reps too as well. And 282 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: then there's Tom Kennedy, So I think it'll be really interesting. 283 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: You've got to be able for that last wide receiver 284 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: spout in those last few spots show that you can 285 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: do something else. And and it was good that Tom 286 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: Kennedy did that because obviously on offense he's shown that 287 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: he can just make plays, he gets out there, he 288 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: gets open, he could throw the ball too. Throw. I 289 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: don't think we can roll back highlight from touchdown pass 290 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: last year doing no, No, I don't have that one 291 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: cued up. But he can chuck it a little bit too. 292 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: And and you know, I talked to him in the 293 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: locker room after the game on Saturday, and he said, look, 294 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep that trust yep Like it 295 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: takes so long to earn the trust of a head coach, 296 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: of a position coach, and you can lose it so quickly. 297 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: And I thought it was a really good quote by him, 298 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: just saying, I've got to be that guy that just 299 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: never loses that trust. Just keep it and if I 300 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: have that, I'll be okay. He also said, I will 301 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: play anything they want me to play, even defense, if 302 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: they need me. He's just that kind of guy. He's 303 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: a football player. He's a football player. Ken He's a 304 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: football player. And again, like guys, like we said last week, 305 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: I think that that plays here. It plays here. Um 306 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: the running backs anything jump out with the guys kind 307 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: of battling for the three four spot. Justin Jacksonson played 308 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: a lot. But yeah, aside from the fumble which was 309 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: not good but recovered. But he broke off a nineteen, 310 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: a twenty one, he broke off some big ones average 311 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: seven point seven, had seven carries for fifty four yards. 312 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: And look a veteran guy right who's played and so 313 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: you know he's a guy I think that's right there 314 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: with with Godwin and with Jefferson. Um, you know, competing 315 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: for those spots now defensively, Um, let's switch over to 316 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: that sideball. A couple of guys that jumped out to 317 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: me and a guy who's really been good peage and 318 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this is m. Austin Bryant. 319 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: All right, he was amazing. He was amazing this week 320 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: and he was amazing. He's been amazing all camp. I think, 321 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: and look there's a guy that's really taken advantage of 322 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity. So Romeo Aquara, right, is you know still 323 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: um rehabbing that torn achilles Julian Aquara what's going on 324 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: about two weeks now where he's been on the practice 325 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: with an undisclosed injury. So, um, you know that's given 326 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: a guy like Austin Bryant an opportunity to step in 327 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and play with the second unit and the first unit, 328 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: and that kid's just taken off. He has made after 329 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: play after play. We saw it in the joint practices 330 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, and we saw it here Saturday too. 331 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: He got a sack. I think you should have got another, 332 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: but always him a little bit for steering him right 333 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: into his arms. But but that's been Austin Bryant. And 334 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: we talked to him on Thurst and he just says, look, 335 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I was hurt. It was a Jeff Okuda situation with him. 336 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it was almost the same. I think he 337 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: played ten games his first two years because of injuries, 338 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: and so you know, had a sneaky four and a 339 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: half sacks last year in fourteen games. And look he's healthy. 340 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: He loves this even front, you know, being that kind 341 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: of outside sam guy on an even front, and he 342 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: says it fits his game. And boy, he just looks 343 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: like it every day because every game in practice speech 344 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: I write his name not at least twice. He's he's 345 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: ready to go. He looks like and you can never 346 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: have enough of those rotational edges that can just get 347 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: in there, you know, don't even necessarily not that he's 348 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: a bad run defender, but don't even worry about that. 349 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Just go third down pass rusher, like you need somebody 350 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: that can get there. Austin Bryant has has proved that 351 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: it cause havoc, right cause havoc, you know. And you 352 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: look at his line. Four tackles, a sack, he had 353 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: a tackle for loss, he had a quarterback hit. I 354 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: mean that's just the kind of production you're looking for 355 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: on the edge. And other guy we mentioned his name, 356 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: John Kaminski. I thought he was really good too, and 357 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: I've loved his camp. He's shown up in camp, big 358 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: physical guy. Yeah right. I mean you just you stand 359 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: next to him, You're like, man, that's a football player. 360 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Like that's another guy with openings from Levi and Josh 361 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Pascal being hurt that like Austin Brighton has taken advantage 362 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: of the acquires being down. That's another guy. There's interior 363 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: reps and John Kaminsky has definitely filmed them and they've 364 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: really needed that interior rush, right. I Mean, you talk 365 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: to any quarterback in this league and they will tell 366 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: you the most disruptive rush is the rush that comes 367 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: right up the middle, right in your face. That's why 368 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is the best defensive player to probably ever 369 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: play the game, because that is such a disruptive rush 370 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: when it comes right at you. When it's on the outside, 371 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: you can step up, you can do some things. When 372 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: it's right at you, there's nowhere to go. Yeah, and 373 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: John Kimiski showed that a little bit today. They need 374 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: Levi owns Rique to show that, they need to Lee 375 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: McNeil to show that, they need Michael Brockers to show 376 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: that they need to get more juice from the interior. 377 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: So it was good to see, you know, a reserve 378 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: guy in John Kaminski, Um, you know, six tackles. He 379 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: had a sack, two tackles for lost a quarterback hit. Again, 380 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: that kind of production is what you want to see, 381 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: especially when it comes from interior guy. Yeah. And I 382 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: think another interior guy that that left with an injury, 383 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: I didn't see if he ever came back, but Eric 384 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Banks had a sack today. I think he looked pretty good. 385 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Bruce Hector had had a couple of good jumps off 386 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: the ball. That Demetrius Taylor's been a guy I've noted 387 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Yeah, in training, all of those 388 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: those interior guys today, really, I mean they only allowed 389 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: thirty rush yards, so they were great in the run game. 390 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: And then I thought the pass rusher was pretty efficient 391 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: today as well. It was and on the outside, Jeff 392 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Okuda and Will Harris, I thought that was one battle 393 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: that I really wanted to see. We knew Amani or 394 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: Wary wasn't going to play, so, um, you were going 395 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: to see Jeff Okuda and Will Harris and those who 396 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: are battling for that number two spot opposite or you 397 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: are ye and um, you know, I thought Jeff really 398 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: was solid and coverage, they didn't attack him much. They 399 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: attacked him one time on a thing made the ten 400 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: for a short game and immediately made the tackle, got 401 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: off the field. Will gave up a you know, a 402 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: twenty yard catch early that he was playing a little 403 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: off and they kind of caught him in a long 404 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: crosser and he got into some traffic and was trailing 405 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: and you know, just didn't make the play. And then 406 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: the next play was a twenty three yard gain on 407 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: that side, and I don't know if it was a 408 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: miscommunication and coverage. It looked in in you know, there 409 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: was a twenty three yard completion there. So a little 410 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: bit of a rougher start for him. But I think 411 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: it was great for Jeff Alkuda, for Lions fans that 412 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: want that number three overall pick to emerge as the 413 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: guy they thought they were getting when they picked him 414 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: number three. And I thought Thursday in the joint practices, 415 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: he was really really good. I wrote that in the 416 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: observations that day. I think I even put it in 417 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the notebook. He got his hands on a couple of balls. 418 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: He was talking, he was physical, and he was right on. 419 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: I think it's important to even note that he was. 420 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: He was manned up against Michael Pittman, who was one 421 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: of the better receivers in the league, and he was 422 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: you know, Pittman got him a couple of times, but 423 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Jeff got his hand um on ball knocked out. I 424 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: knocked it out of Pittman's hands, like he was. He 425 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: was ready for the challenge for good. He was good, 426 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: and that's good and I think ultimately, I mean, there's 427 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: still another week to go, and there's one more preseason game, 428 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: but if I were to guess right now, I'd say 429 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Amani Oriwari and Jeff Okuda um and 430 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to watch Jeff you know, he's only 431 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: played in ten games. Obviously, you guys know that the 432 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: history with the core muscle injury and then the achilles 433 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: week one. But man, that young man has worked really 434 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: hard to get himself back. He's been humble, he's put 435 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: his head down, he just wants to work. And I 436 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: think it's good that now two weeks from the regular season, 437 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: we're starting to see you know, the corner to play 438 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: turn turn, turn the corner and get his hands on football. 439 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: B right there and be that guy that the Lions hoped, 440 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: you know he can be as as a number three pick. Yeah, absolutely, 441 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: I thought. I thought he had a very rebounded well 442 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday in a very good game today. Anything else 443 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: jump out? I thought Derek Barnes showed up to Yeah 444 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: he did. Um, a couple great stops in the run. 445 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: The special team smacked there, Oh yeah, big hit. And 446 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: that's another guy. You know, Malcolm Redriguez has gotten so 447 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: much you know, talk and deservedly so he's been really, 448 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: really good. Um. Alex Enzeloni didn't play Saturday, so you 449 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: know that where he stands like he's gonna have the 450 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: green dot. He's the MIC. I think they really trust him. 451 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: To kind of call the plays and run that defense. 452 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: And who's the guy that's going to be next to him? 453 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Derek Barnes, Is it gonna be 454 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: Malcolm Rodriguez? Do you trust Malcolm Rodriguez, a sixth round pick, 455 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: a rookie, to have that role right away? Um? I 456 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: think he's certainly earned the right to be in the 457 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: conversation with the way he's played, and we saw from 458 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks and some of the stuff that Calvin Shephard 459 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: has said, like can somebody please step up so I 460 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: don't have to keep you know, praising the rookie and 461 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: linebacker is such a rotational role that you know there 462 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a set player next to Alex. 463 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: They're going to rotate in back and forth and back 464 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: and forth. But you got to know who your two 465 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: guys are, at least at the beginning, and you have 466 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: to know what each guy does really, really well. I 467 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: think Malcolm's kind of an all around can can do 468 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: it a little bit of all But you love the 469 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: size of a Derek Barnes in the run game of 470 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Alex Anzalonis, so I think. But I think you're right, 471 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: and that's a good point by you. I think we'll 472 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: see the rotation with those three guys, especially as then 473 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: you can't rule out Chris Boards is a coverage guy, 474 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: and that's a guy that you're gonna want out there 475 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: on tight ends or running back. And you have Pittman 476 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: and Woods and those guys who are really good on 477 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: special teams who they're trying to maybe find a reserve 478 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: role on defense as well. So that'll be really interesting. 479 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: But one more week for Malcolm Rodriguez and Derek Barnes. 480 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: I think that'll be an interesting one in Pittsburgh next 481 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: week to see just kind of um, who who Who's 482 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: going to be that guy next to Alex to kind 483 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: of start, Even though to your point, I think they 484 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: are going to be rotational guys, it'll be interesting. The 485 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: kicker battle, um, you know, it was funny. It is 486 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: a battle. So the first two weeks, I don't think 487 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: Austin Cybert missed a kick. No, he was lights out. 488 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: He was lights out. And then Dan Campbell makes the comment, 489 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: right he says, hey, you know, I think Siebert's a 490 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: little bit ahead right now. He's obviously got a bigger leg. 491 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: And then I started to see Austin Siebert miss a 492 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: few kicks here and there in practice and here and there, 493 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: and you know, look, he missed a fifty five yard 494 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: or on Saturday. But fifty five yards, I mean, that's 495 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: you can't kill a kid for that. I mean, that's 496 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: that's a tough I don't know what this what the 497 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: percentages are, but certainly once you get over fifty the 498 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: percentage drops considerably. I think he still got the edge, 499 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: but it's maybe is it a little bit closer than 500 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: it was after the first two weeks. I think the 501 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: gap is being closed for sure, And so this will 502 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: be another interesting week in Lions camp and then next 503 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: week in Pittsburgh. I would expect them to do the 504 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: same thing. Give one guy a half, another guy a half, 505 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: and kind of see where that shakes out. Their numbers 506 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: in terms of kicking, field goals extra points were very 507 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: similar last week or last year. Excuse me, So I 508 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: think that one's coming down to the wire. Two Yeah, 509 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: and that is a battle, and that's gonna be important 510 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: because that guy is gonna have to show up every week. 511 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: We've got one more week of training camp, We've got 512 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: one more preseason game. Expected to be a lot like 513 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 1: it was here in Indie. Next week in Pittsburgh, a 514 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: lot of the starter sitting, a lot of the backups 515 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: and stuff as they try to figure out. Then they're 516 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: gonna make cuts down to the initial fifty three. I 517 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: say initial because there'll be some moves number two in 518 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: the waiver order there. Yeah, there'll be something's gonna be 519 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: there'll be some moves after that. So it's always an 520 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: initial fifty three. And then we get in regular season 521 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: mode and that's the fun part. And then we get 522 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and all that kind of stuff, and we just 523 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: get to see how good this football team really is. 524 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: It's a fun time. Let's get through one more week 525 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: then we get into regular season mode. It'll be fun. 526 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: We'll have a twenty minute Inside the Huddle podcast this week. 527 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: Obviously we'll be in Pittsburgh next week. We'll break it 528 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: down afterwards, so we'll keep you guys going through right 529 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: to the regular season. We'll see you guys next week.