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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL Podcast, each sold separately. Batteries not included.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal sitting in for Dan Hands, our host

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Speaker 2: out today surrounded in a room fill with heroes, Mark

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Speaker 2: Sessler and Patrick claybaughn.

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Speaker 3: What's up, guys, how are you today?

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Speaker 4: I'm great.

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Speaker 5: We actually we got to hang out with Jason zumwalt

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Speaker 5: down by the sea and you as well. Patrick gumn

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Speaker 5: On was that Thursday Friday.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those eight We all literally.

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Speaker 5: All fade into each other. But Zumwaltz moving to Connecticut

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Speaker 5: at end of the month, I believe. But what a

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Speaker 5: great hang. He's an enjoyable person to conversate with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the like the the joy that you get

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Speaker 3: from the drops they come through in real life and

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Speaker 3: it's like consistently delivering like hey man, like it's okay

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Speaker 3: to no, Like he's on.

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Speaker 1: He's awesome.

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Speaker 2: He is more joyous ball of energy that are our fans,

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Speaker 2: are our listeners. I should say that bought tickets for

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Speaker 2: our live show back in LA and January got to enjoy.

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Speaker 2: So we wish you know someone well, but he's not

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Speaker 2: going anywhere. In terms of the listeners he's dropping, those

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Speaker 2: don't still work.

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Speaker 5: You could still do what he does voiceover acting skills

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Speaker 5: from any location.

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Speaker 2: The Zummie drops are staying strong, and this is a

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Speaker 2: good job by our host Dan, who is out this show,

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Speaker 2: but he'll be back on Thursday. We're back in the studio.

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Speaker 2: We're feeling comfortable. You know that the beach was nice.

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Speaker 2: The sound is pristine though in this studio, so there

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Speaker 2: are positives and I feel at home here in the

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Speaker 2: Chris Westling podcast studio. And Dan will be back on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a lot of mini camps, I guess. To

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Speaker 2: wrap up, there's a handful of mini camps this week,

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Speaker 2: and then the rest of them are next week. And

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Speaker 2: then it goes from quiet to extraordinarily quiet. It really

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Speaker 2: gets into Angel City season. Clayban wearing the sweatshirt of

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Speaker 2: his his wife's employ Lay, the local soccer unit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we got a game against Chicago to night at

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Speaker 1: Bemo Stadium. Okay, but yeah, just do you go to

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Speaker 1: all the games.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough go with the kids because they like

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Speaker 3: to run in separate directions and they're faster now as

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Speaker 3: well as stronger. And it becomes a problem. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: we've gone to a couple it's been pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It's a delightful fan atmosphere at that stadium. I would

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Speaker 2: say I would agree. I know, I know I'm off

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Speaker 2: topic here, but I would recommend soccer is happening in La.

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Speaker 2: All right. We're doing a lot today. Actually, we're getting ambitious.

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Speaker 2: We're trying something new and we're going to go through

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Speaker 2: all thirty two teams and give you the spiciest player

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Speaker 2: on every single team. And there can be no debate,

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Speaker 2: There is no discussion. We are determining through scientific means,

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Speaker 2: the spiciest player for all thirty two teams. Try to

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Speaker 2: do like ninety second seeds. So we're giving a lot

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Speaker 2: of work here to Eric back there, and Eric and

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Speaker 2: Randy are going to pop in into the nineties. That's

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Speaker 6: As a Western New York kid, it gives me a

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Speaker 6: great deal of pride to be here today. I've been

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Speaker 6: to a lot of groundbreaking ceremonies in my time at

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Speaker 6: the NFL, but none of them are more meaningful than

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Speaker 5: Is that Roger schedule a little emotional I've done. I've

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Speaker 2: He is. He is a Western New York guy. They

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Speaker 2: Oliver got forty five million dollars guaranteed in a new contract.

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Speaker 2: He was the top ten pick from what four years ago?

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Speaker 5: I love the signing. He has twenty nine sacks over

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Speaker 3: And an exceedingly consistent player who since twenty eighteen has

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Speaker 1: And it's like, does is that the question? Or do

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Speaker 1: looks like that's all been worked out at Oliver's a

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Speaker 2: I think some contract I don't want to say dork

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Speaker 2: where do different players slot in? They find the financial

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Speaker 2: I think this is a smart deal. Actually, I push

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Speaker 2: Like if I had done the top free agents this year,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an absolutely core position in the McDermott defense.

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Speaker 5: And I look at these deals and you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: It'll look better. I mean, it'll look good. And I

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Speaker 3: And there's an extent where if you're the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: Be a run stopping defensive tackle, like you're gonna want

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Speaker 1: And that's the tough thing about modeling all of the

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Speaker 2: That's a good points.

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Speaker 3: They are like the people who do these things are

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Speaker 1: All the time.

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Speaker 2: That's why we call them Patrick on his week off.

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Speaker 2: We apologize that for you do.

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Speaker 1: Look, this is fun.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, you know, we got an open spot.

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Speaker 2: Like who do we call? You call Colleen it or Patrick?

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Speaker 2: It's one of the two, go too. That's really the

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Speaker 2: way to make the show, saying and Leonard Floyd quickly,

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Speaker 2: these are one of the signings that like don't get

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Speaker 2: He's just like, we can't afford him the way that

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Speaker 2: don't think he really wanted to do that. I think

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Speaker 5: Your point, Patrick, he's not missed a game. He's a

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Speaker 5: So and when they lost Von Miller, that defense suffered.

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Speaker 2: They we didn't really agree on what spiciest player meant,

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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk the spiciest players on each team,

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Speaker 2: and I said spicy. I left that to interpretation personally.

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Speaker 5: I One thing that I did, though, because you could

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Speaker 2: I feel similar. But sometimes it's just some people give

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Speaker 4: I just feel it. It's hard to explain. I'll know

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Speaker 2: I'll let my players speak for themselves, and I'll I'll

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Speaker 2: It's like spicy. It's like you see that player a

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm feeling them fully expected.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to go through all thirty two teams.

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Speaker 2: Always dangerous when we do this, so we are going

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Speaker 4: I have identified my spicy players, JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 5: I know that with Monkin there's gonna be and we're

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Speaker 5: But we have Dobbins. That's still gonna be a Baltimore

438
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 5: Ravens team that's gonna need to run the ball here

439
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 5: and there. And he's another year removed from a pretty

440
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 5: complex ACL surgery. I think last year I went I'd

441
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 5: like this assigning because I went and watched a little

442
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 5: bit of him, and there are still plays where you

443
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 5: see the power in the explosion.

444
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 4: I think his speed was a little.

445
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 5: Bit off, but this is a guy that was a

446
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 5: ninety ninth percentile in his forty yard dash and ninety

447
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 5: six percentile speed score before he was drafted.

448
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 4: He has a career five point nine yards per carry.

449
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 4: And this was a dominant college player who's shown it

450
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: and flashes. And if you get the best version of Dobbins,

451
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: it only makes that offense that is gonna be more balanced,

452
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 4: that much more of a threat.

453
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 2: I mean, checking out tape. That's Spicy Mark's outfits lately. Spicy.

454
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: I love it because I think about our guy Spice Rack,

455
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: who loved JK. Domins. They just put that together. And

456
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: he always compared him to Emmett Smith in that he

457
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: thinks his feel and his vision of like getting seven

458
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 2: yards when there's maybe only three to get is elite.

459
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 1: And is that that's Spicy And there were clearly moments

460
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: where you could see the speed the power of the burst,

461
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: and you also at the same time saw that he

462
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: was clearly playing on one.

463
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: Leg right and it's like he's.

464
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: Doing this less than a year or move from surgery.

465
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 3: That was an extensive surgery, as you said, against professionals

466
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 3: and still having success. I'm with you on the spicy

467
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: and put it up.

468
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 4: All right right on time too.

469
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Speaker 2: Let's go Bengals. So this I had a few good options,

470
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: but the Mike Hilton is my spicy player, and this

471
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 2: is an interpretation of spicy where I just think he

472
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: plays spicy, he mixes it up. But I also wanted

473
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 2: to mention because I think he's a good example of

474
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: what makes the Bengals great. They're really good at taking

475
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: veterans from other team that were good on other teams

476
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: and actually knowing how to use them too, and I

477
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: think that's an underrated quality. I think they're a spicy

478
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: defense because they can change who they are depending on

479
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: the week. Some weeks will be big Mike Hilton weeks

480
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: where they have him blitzing, they have him mixing it up.

481
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: He's not as good in coverage, but they know how

482
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: to hide him. Some weeks it's not as big a

483
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: Mike Hilton week, and so to me, that's sort of

484
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: a great example of what makes the Bengals great. But

485
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: I think they've brought together a lot of spicy players,

486
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: a lot of veterans who play hard, and Mike Helton

487
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: to me is like a great Bengal.

488
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 5: Mike Hilton was a West favorite two and I think

489
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: it's it's good scouting inside your own division because he

490
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 5: was an underrated Steeler and you pull him away from

491
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 5: your rival. And then with lou Anarumu, I think what

492
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 5: he does on a week two week basis the way

493
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 5: he creates matchups. Since your point uses players differently in

494
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 5: different matchups, it's a perfect landing spot for Mike Hilton.

495
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: At some points in the game, especially in the postseason,

496
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: Mike Hilton transforms into a five to nine and eighty

497
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: five pound edge rusher right and is incredible at it,

498
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: and it's like, what is what is this guy doing?

499
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: How does it work?

500
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: That's why he's see. If I was a player, I

501
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: would want to be like a Mike Hillton, spicy, feisty player.

502
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get Walker to get on board with this.

503
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: He likes playing football on the beach, but I'm trying

504
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: to get him a little more. The one time that

505
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: I knowoy to Walker at Colleens Gonzo's house, he was

506
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: calling himself a cornerback and didn't So you right there, spicy.

507
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: All Right, you got the Browns, I got the Cleveland Browns,

508
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: and okay, so my context for spicy it was like,

509
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: what's what's a spicy take that I have about the player.

510
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: Maybe has a reason to be a little spicy about

511
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 3: his circumstances, and it's Elijah Moore. Elijah Moore celebrates a

512
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: touchdown at Ole Miss. The whole world implodes, like.

513
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's pretending to be a dog. This

514
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: is the worst thing that ever happened. He's a bad person.

515
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 3: Then he goes to the Jets, where he's essentially doing

516
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: cardio for a quarterback room that doesn't necessarily work. The

517
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: coaches don't and now he's out, and now he's in Cleveland.

518
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 3: And this is a guy who's twenty three years old,

519
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: who has plenty of talent. I think he can make

520
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: it happen. I don't know what. The quarterback situation almost

521
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: went with Nick Chubb because they were a team that

522
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: was good and they make the quarterback change and all

523
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: of a sudden they're not good as good as they were.

524
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: And Nick Chubb deserves a team he's been so good

525
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: for so long. But Elijah Moore is spicy to me

526
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: because I think in terms of where he's being drafted

527
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: right now, I know ADP fantasy wise is it's June.

528
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: It's early June. But I think he's going to outperform

529
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: that significantly.

530
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 5: We're just a couple of years removed from a summertime

531
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 5: full of Elijah Moore hype and how dominant he was.

532
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 5: I think I like the situation in Cleveland because they

533
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 5: really needed wide outs. He's got a chance to be

534
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 5: a big contributor, especially if they get better quarterback play.

535
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 5: I still think Cleveland is a potential landing spot for

536
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins. They've been whispered about here and there. That

537
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: would change things a little bit more. I think I

538
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: can't wait to see what he does.

539
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: He would compliment him. His routes are spicy. I went

540
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: and watched those routes as a rookie, and I was,

541
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: I think one of the people leading the hype last

542
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: offseason thinking he was gonna be great because he just

543
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: makes dudes look bad. He fits well in today's NFL.

544
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: All right, Mark Steelers, all right?

545
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 5: I had there were a lot of ways I could

546
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 5: go here, and this maybe feels a little more obvious,

547
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 5: but George Pickens because again, it was just like watching

548
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 5: some of his incredible contested catches and he had the

549
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 5: one catch against the Browns. I believe it was Thursday

550
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 5: Night football, whereas just essentially spinning around and catching it

551
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: behind his back. I mean, there are things happening that

552
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 5: normal human beings will never accomplish physically, but they're happening

553
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 5: with him. He's a massive like asset for Kenny Pickett.

554
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 5: And if you look at this offense, Najie Harris, Pickett, Pickens,

555
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 5: Jalen Warren, Frett, Pat Fryarmouth, Darnell Washington, Deontay Johnson, Alan

556
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 5: Robinson will see. But the rebuilt offensive line, there aren't

557
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 5: a lot of excuses for the Steelers as a group.

558
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: We saw down the stretch last year to make a

559
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 5: big step up, and I think that Pickens is this

560
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 5: complete game changing element in that offense.

561
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: Those I mean, he gets the highlight plays, but he's

562
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: pretty good at the regular just slant routes too. I

563
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: know he doesn't do well in an exercise like Matt Harmon,

564
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: our friend does the reception perception and he's maybe not

565
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: totally complete receiver yet, and so Pickens doesn't score that

566
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 2: highly in that. But that reminds me a little bit

567
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 2: of DK Metcalf in that you can get better at

568
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: those other things, but you have the one thing that's

569
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 2: already dominant. Lean into that.

570
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: That's that's spicy, and you can The spice comes out

571
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: to me in just how twitchy he is as a

572
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: mover where he has these he has these highlight pancake

573
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: blocks almost every other week, like every third week, there's

574
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: a corner.

575
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: That's lined up and George Pickens just puts them almost dirt,

576
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: and it's like, Where's where's this coming from. He's a

577
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: very explosive guy, and I think just like a lot

578
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: of you know, the spices that the Caps say.

579
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: I've said the Steelers are going to the playoffs, right,

580
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: you have you need a little something to juice a

581
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: U picket who doesn't seem this spicy. I got the Texans,

582
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: you know. I thought about Stroud and I was kind

583
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: of avoiding quarterbacks too, because Stroud makes better throws than

584
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: people give him credit for. But I'm gonna go Jalen

585
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: Petrie because does I look at this exercise a way

586
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: to talk about someone Maybe we haven't hit on on

587
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: this show much, but seems like he's going to be

588
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: a guy we are hitting on more in the coming

589
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: years because he was one of the best defensive rookies

590
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Last year, he was second among tackles.

591
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: He missed a lot of tackles too. Likes he's the

592
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: type of guy who's trying to make big plays, and

593
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: he made a lot of big plays. I think of

594
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: that Chiefs game where they were kind of close against

595
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Mahomes and he gave a lot of trouble. He forces turnovers,

596
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: he intercepts the ball. He's just everywhere, and they love him.

597
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: He can do a little bit of everything. You can

598
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: play him near the line of scrimmage, but he's not

599
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: gonna kill you in coverage any hits. He seems like

600
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: he's one of the few players who's figured out how

601
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: to hit in today's NFL. Maybe because he's come up

602
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: that way, I don't know, and the rules have been different,

603
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: but he hits consistently, and he hits hard, and Texans

604
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: fans like on Twitter love them some. Jalen peetrees a

605
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: shout out to them.

606
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of players who maybe should

607
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: be spicy. Are the players who are on the Texans

608
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 3: they weren't necessarily putting this this effort as they are

609
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three because looking at like Peach, like

610
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: the bones that are there. Yeah, and now Dimiko comes in,

611
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: there's something to believe in, whereas like in Petree's a

612
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: huge part of that.

613
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: Whereas it's thing we just didn't see it as much.

614
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what's the commitment, But now you can see it.

615
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: It's what's gonna happen if if I hon too long.

616
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: So it works, we move on. Patrick, you got the cults.

617
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I will take the Indianapolis Colts, and I will

618
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: take a quarterback. And it's not the quarterback you think,

619
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: because this Gardner Minshew gonna play like it is. There's

620
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 3: there's so many schools of thought regarding like, oh, if

621
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: the quarterback doesn't have a lot of success instantly, then

622
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: his mind's not gonna work anymore, and he's not gonna

623
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: be a good football player anymore. Like if to me,

624
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: like I think, if you're that mentally fragile, like maybe

625
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: you weren't going to be successful in the first place.

626
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: But Gardner Minshew can captivate a pop like we've seen that.

627
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: And so if things come in.

628
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: And activated this guy tobout.

629
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they take the route, if they if they

630
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: believe in the idea that, uh, you know, we don't

631
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: want to ruin Richardson. The Gardener Minche is gonna end

632
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: up playing, and I think I think that's spicy.

633
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 5: Well, I also think he is if you were to

634
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 5: rank back up quarterbacks, Minshew is a fringe starter, So

635
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 5: I think that's it's a it's a great thing to

636
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: have him behind Richardson. If there is some lag in

637
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: his progress, I trust Shane Steichen, who you know, they

638
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 5: didn't rush Jalen Hurts into the lineup. They took their

639
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: time there. There's some blueprint on what you do. I

640
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: also I do though, when you someone like Anthony Richardson,

641
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: if he's sort of lighting people up in the preseason.

642
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 5: It's even though Gardner Minshew is a really likable, enjoyable player, like,

643
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 5: it's a little tough. It's a tough spot because the crowd,

644
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 5: the first line of trouble is going to be going

645
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: nuts for the idea that you've got this rookie who

646
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 5: can do superhuman things on the field. It won't be

647
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: long before he plays.

648
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: I feel like Minshew's I don't think he's underrated. But

649
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: he's not overrated. I think because his teams has lost

650
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: so much. You know, when he was in Jacksonville. You

651
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: ignore the seven point one yards per attempt for his career,

652
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: forty four touchdowns, fifteen intersect Like, he's a good player,

653
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: he could be really good with that coaching. I'm with you, Mark,

654
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: you are up with the Jags.

655
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Speaker 1: All right.

656
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 5: So this is where I swerved away from Trevor Lawrence.

657
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: We'll talk about him all summer. But I think that

658
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: this is a team that didn't do a whole lot

659
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 5: this offseason because they spent so much last offseason to

660
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 5: formulate and Doug Peterson offense. But I do love with

661
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: the trade they pulled off in the middle of last

662
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: season for Calvin Ridley, who I think we forget about

663
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: the fact is like we haven't seen him in so long.

664
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 5: This is a phenomenal wide receiver who you go back

665
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty, he had thirteen hundred yards, ninety catches,

666
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 5: and nine touchdowns and discovered mid season that he had

667
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 5: been playing on a broken foot.

668
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: So now when the foot is not broken, what's happening?

669
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Speaker 5: And I mean it's like kind of just like you

670
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: didn't have the most game changing draft on the planet.

671
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 5: You were quiet in free agency, but this is in

672
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 5: the legitimate option that changes your ass game and helps

673
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 5: fast forward the progress of Trevor Lawrence, who was incredible

674
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 5: down the stretch.

675
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: That's a great point. Mark. I love that too, because

676
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: if you think about Doug Peterson, he seems like he's

677
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: a good coach for receivers. Like they got a lot

678
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: out of Zay Jones, they got a lot out of

679
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk, they got a lot out of the receivers

680
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: when they were in Philadelphia, guys who struggled elsewhere, Like

681
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: they should be able to get a lot out of Ridley.

682
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: And I think he comes into a room that knows

683
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: where their strengths are and he can only be a plus.

684
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: And like the numbers are necessary. They're going to change

685
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: for Zay, They're going to change for Christian. But Calvin

686
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: Ridley gives you an option and they're like, you.

687
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: Know, they're His suspension was not spicy though, game gambling

688
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: on in sports not not spicy.

689
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: But spicy.

690
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: Go Reda's player's tribute an article. It goes into context

691
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: on his decisions on his foot injury. It's it's really

692
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: good introspective as well.

693
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 5: I like Gregork that you put the AFC South up early,

694
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 5: because they're always last in these extras.

695
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: There was a reason behind that, but yes, we we

696
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: went in a different order, going north, south west east.

697
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: It's never happened before in a podcast situation Tennessee. I

698
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: think of our great friend Justin Graver, who's not doing

699
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: a great job over at at Fox, and I remember

700
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: he liked it when I said, you gotta build the

701
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: whole plane out of Chigoconko. I mean Chigoconquo. There. Tight

702
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: End defines spice to me. He is the spicy guy.

703
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: He's made for spice. He's running over guys in the

704
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: open field. He's big, he's nasty, he looks strong. He's

705
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: who Mike Faber won. He's like you go to Korea

706
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: Town and you're like, should I get the medium or

707
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: should I get the spicy? And you have to adjust

708
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: a little because Koreatown's spicy is a little spicier even

709
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: than your regular Caucasian establishment spicy. I'm not adjusting for

710
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: spice when it's chigo Quonco. I'm cranking up the spice.

711
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: And you do need to build the whole plane out

712
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 5: of him, Greg because like their their third wide receiver

713
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 5: right now is a fifth round pick, Kyle Phillips. It's like, right,

714
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: they are very lighted wide out. He had these moments

715
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: last year where he made them so watchable.

716
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, just I see it. You can kind of

717
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: like Hittle a little bit.

718
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean like in tight ends, we know they

719
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 5: take like a year or two to kind of formulate,

720
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: and like you can already see these flash moments with.

721
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: Him, and that's a really great call because you're thinking

722
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: about like twenty eighteen George Kittle where he was running

723
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: over everybody, and then that's what like on not as

724
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: good of a team Chigo Kwonko was doing towards the

725
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: end of the season. It's just the Titans were kind

726
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: of falling apart. Like what happens if the team gets

727
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 3: it together, it's like it's gonna be all Chig all

728
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: the time.

729
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: Baby, I'll be disappointed if he has the career out

730
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 2: of Johnny Smith, who I once similarly loved and was

731
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: in a similar.

732
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: Spot the team.

733
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: What a time to take a break. We haven't done

734
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: it yet, and we are going to hear from our sponsors.

735
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right, we are back and we

736
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: are going to the team that Russell Wilson did land

737
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: with the Denver Broncos.

738
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Speaker 1: Patrick, it's Russell Wilson.

739
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, because things just so bad and it's

740
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: it can never be just on one person when things

741
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: are that bad. It took a cavalcade of errors and

742
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: and just bad football, bad planning, bad implementation. And I

743
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: think the outcomes, clearly the outcomes are going to be better.

744
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: They got better towards the end of the season. But

745
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: I think if you're gonna believe in a player and

746
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: have that belief be spicy. Considering the conversation last year

747
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: that the spiciest player to believe in on the Denver

748
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 3: Broncos as Russell.

749
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 5: Wills, Well, everything pivots around what happens there. I mean,

750
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: it's like it wasn't an Urban Meyer situation, but they

751
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 5: just seemed like massively disorganized from a coaching staff perspective.

752
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 5: There was, you know, reports that Wilson was out there

753
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 5: sort of calling Seahawks types plays, he didn't know the playbook,

754
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 5: he was sort of lost on the field.

755
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: Right, He might have been the Urban Meyer is Yeah,

756
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: I bet.

757
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 4: Sean Payton though is not good. He wasn't a disorganized.

758
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: Ship, so right, he wasn't as unlikable, uh, spicy. It's

759
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: an interesting because you think him you don't think Yeah.

760
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: It's almost like remember when normcore was a thing. I

761
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember that. I don't know if

762
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: that's still happening. We're just wearing like really basic clothes

763
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: like Dad Court, almost like wearing the most basic clothes

764
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: possible with suddenly.

765
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: Men's fashion in general basics.

766
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: Right, So Russell Wilson is almost so vanilla boring that

767
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: he that can't be. He's a fun he was a

768
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: fun player in the past, and he's got good players

769
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: and he's got a great coach, so that's totally fair

770
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: that he could be an entertaining player.

771
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: I could also see him potentially benched by week six

772
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 5: or seven for Jared Stidham if he is the guy

773
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: from one.

774
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: Last season, see my fear. In my expectations, he'll be

775
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: sort of in the middle. He'll just be like the

776
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: thirteenth best quarterback in the league and won't be that bad.

777
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 2: Let's go Mark Chiefs.

778
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 5: All right, Well, I don't know where I else to

779
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 5: do this, because again, it's like reab Patrick Mahomes Spice here,

780
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 5: but like Darius Tony to me, is on a kind

781
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 5: of a bit of a weird wide out group for

782
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 5: the Chiefs right now. They're already talking him up as

783
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 5: having a pretty clear path to being the number one receiver. Now,

784
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 5: I think part of it is like, that's great. When

785
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 5: he's healthy, he does things that are a total fascination.

786
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: Can he stay healthy? Can you really rely on him

787
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: to play that role? But I mean, I have to

788
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: feel like, if you're Andy Reid, you could spend a

789
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 5: full straight month in the offseason devising trickery and elements

790
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 5: of Kadarius Tony because we saw it in the Super Bowl.

791
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: I mean, the game changing touchdown, the longest punt return

792
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: in Super Bowl history.

793
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: I just don't see why at this point.

794
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: He also had the highest target rate of any any

795
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 5: wide on the team last year, so it's like they

796
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 5: were starting to use him more and more. Can you

797
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 5: project him into a big, big role as a number

798
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 5: one guy?

799
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: We'll see, Yeah, worry.

800
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 3: The number one guy is always going to be Travis Kelcey.

801
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: It's tough to say that he's going to be the

802
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: number one guy. But if Kadarius Tony is on the field,

803
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: like Andy Reid's going to utilize him. And that's a

804
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 3: good thing if you're a fantasy manager, if you're the Chiefs,

805
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: especially because Patrick Mahomes is going to distribute, now are

806
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: they Is he going to get one hundred and twenty

807
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: nine balls? Probably not, But that's because you have a

808
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: really good quarterback. It's going to make the right decisions.

809
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: Could he be seventy for one thousand? I think so,

810
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: But I've got to stay healthy and worries me. I

811
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: will always remember from my vantage point at that Super

812
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: Bowl how the blocking sort of set up for that

813
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: punt return and he could see it, and he like

814
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 2: takes that step one way, and you're like, oh my god,

815
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: this is gonna change. Here we go the entire game

816
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: and you almost scored. I think he probably wishes he scored.

817
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: Ran out of gas. You know who doesn't run out

818
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: of gas? The Chargers. Wait, they totally do in a

819
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: big spot, but Justin Herbert doesn't. So I avoided I'd

820
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: avoided star quarterbacks too, Mark, except for this one. I

821
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: just was like, don't forget that. Justin Herbert is one

822
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: of the most talented players we've ever seen. I was

823
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: thinking in the in the context of this podcast, I

824
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: would put Herbert with Andrew luck, Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar

825
00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: Jackson as the most talented, pure capital t talented coquarterbacks

826
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 2: that I've seen come into the league. Now, Josh Allen,

827
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: you could throw in there now after the fact, but

828
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know he could throw the ball like he could,

829
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: And that's on me. But Herbert is that guy, and

830
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: I think with new coaching h and the best group

831
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: around him, and it's year four, he's a smart dude

832
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: who's learned a lot as a pro man, I think

833
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: he can take that next level and be even spicier

834
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: than ever.

835
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: Like it was mismanaged last year. No one liked the

836
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator of the system in general. He played through injury.

837
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I think other guys would have not been

838
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: on the field. It's questionable that he should not have

839
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: been on the field for some of that too, But

840
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 5: I mean it is the size, the toughness, like the

841
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 5: physical traits, and the fact that, like you know, before,

842
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: he was a starter. Like I thought on hard Knocks,

843
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 5: he came across as a little bit of a floating personality.

844
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 5: But they love him and he's like he's one of

845
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 5: the more watchable quarterbacks we've ever.

846
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: Hacially off the field.

847
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: It's fair, yeah, and like who needs maybe he could

848
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: be spicy in the sense that he's running counter to

849
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: whateverbody else does and how everybody else is, Like maybe

850
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: we could view that as spicy, and like looking at

851
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: the even the playoff loss, right Travis etn Out touched

852
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler after the second half, like the Chargers.

853
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: Said that massive lead, like that's that's not on that's

854
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: not on.

855
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: Justice, it's not. But it was a little bit of

856
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: a disappointing second half. I don't think he played. He

857
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: did not. It wasn't that he got robbed. He didn't

858
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: play great either.

859
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: Defense also could have got to stop.

860
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: Right raiders Patrick wrapping up the West.

861
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: I will take a really good player. I will take

862
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: arguably the best receiver in football and say it's DeVante

863
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: Adams because Davante comes to Las Vegas, he's playing with

864
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: his college teammate, and then that all falls apart and

865
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: now it's like what's going on, Like what is this

866
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: organization's plan? People are maybe saying I'm low on DeVante,

867
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: that's he's still that dude. He is still him. That

868
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: is DeVante Adams. I am not necessarily doubting him. I

869
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: think he's gonna outperform even even though it's like a

870
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: top fifteen ADP. I think he's still DeVante Adams. He's

871
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: still gonna get open. I have questions about the quarterback,

872
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: he should have questions about the franchise situation.

873
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: But I think he's I mean.

874
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: He survived bad quarterback play last year and had a

875
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 5: monster season, So it's kind of like a trick there's

876
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 5: just like a cheat code type player where it.

877
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 4: Doesn't really matter.

878
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 5: He's been with a bunch of like he you know,

879
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: I think for him, like the quarterback play with Rogers

880
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: is one thing, but he would he wanted so badly

881
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 5: to prove that he could do it without Aaron Rodgers

882
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: last year, and he absolutely did. And it's TVD on

883
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 5: Jimmy Garoppolo's health. But I don't think Jimmy Garoppolo is

884
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 5: a step down from car I just don't.

885
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's a big difference. I'm with you.

886
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: I had someone at a school event asked me, you know,

887
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: you get the football talk at the school event. Is

888
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams still the best wide receiver? Link like, how

889
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: would you rank him? Jefferson? I forgot who else they

890
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: threw in there. Maybe it was Digs and Chases the

891
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: top four, and I was like, I don't know. I

892
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: think Adams is close to there, but at this point

893
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: I would take Jefferson and Chase maybe if I'm ranking one, two, three,

894
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: But that's not fair. I'm almost projecting because he's thirty.

895
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet.

896
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: All these guys have such unique skill sets and the circumprances,

897
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: they're all good.

898
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: Yes, he is in that group. We are going on

899
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: to the AFC East and this is when Eric is

900
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: gonna step in. He's been helping us edit the shows lately.

901
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: He's also a Bill's fan, and he's gonna tell us

902
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: who the spiciest Bill is.

903
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 7: Right, we're going back to back wide receivers here, Davonte

904
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 7: Adams's Stefan Diggs. Okay, Buffalo, I feel like he's got

905
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 7: a little bit of everything. What kind of spice you want?

906
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 7: He's cryptic in the offseason. It's every year, where is

907
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 7: he happy? Is he leaving?

908
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo?

909
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 7: Fans are always in civil war over him. He believes

910
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 7: in himself he's always on the sidelines. I am him,

911
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 7: I am him. He's great at what he does. He

912
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 7: gets hot, he gets picked up on hot, Mike's cussing

913
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 7: out Patriots fans.

914
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: He's got the full ball spice. What kind of spice

915
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: you want? Hot? You want telling you everything? Stephan Diggs, guys,

916
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: I love that and unbelievably talented and known as sort

917
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: of the hardest worker in the room in that he

918
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: feels confident getting on others when they don't live up

919
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 2: to his standard.

920
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 5: Would it be spicy if he's staged a summertime holdout, Oh.

921
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 7: It would be very I mean it might as well be.

922
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 7: At this point, Buffalo fans are up and it's it's

923
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 7: not a big deal.

924
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: Though, do we know if he's coming to the mandatory

925
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: mini camp. I would very much like it if he did, Okay,

926
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: but we don't know.

927
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Yah.

928
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean if skipping the non mandatory stuff, who cares.

929
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: There's a million players doing that all around the league,

930
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: including like well respected veterans that aren't getting any attention.

931
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: And there's a fine structure tied to it. Anyway, Like,

932
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: if he doesn't go, it's his choice. I still thick

933
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: stuff on Diggs. It's going to be a good football

934
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 3: player in twenty twenty three. Regardless of where he shows up.

935
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: For Mini caamp right, I would have him solidly in

936
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: my top five receivers. I know his numbers weren't quite

937
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: as good last or maybe they were and I'm just

938
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: totally wrong, but I don't care. He can get up

939
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: and he's like that.

940
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: Eric quietly made this three minutes long because.

941
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Now he's didn't build. He was quick on it. He

942
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: was quick on got three to two one. Here we go,

943
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: stop that whistle there. I couldn't have been more wrong

944
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: on his numbers being lower last year. He had fourteen

945
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine yards, eleven touchdown.

946
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 7: He had a little bit of a down under Nate

947
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 7: Catch had a little bit of a like a quiet

948
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 7: month in the middle of the season somewhere.

949
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: And I don't want a fantasy team, so I couldn't

950
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 2: have been more wrong. Though he has lit it up. Dude,

951
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: he's gonna looking at his numbers now. He could go

952
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame. He is gonna have a

953
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: realistic chance now.

954
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: They look at it.

955
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: He's got the opros, He's got the numbers. Like if

956
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: he keeps stacking years. Next up, Mark, you got the Dolphins.

957
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 5: I am going a little bit of a different direction

958
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 5: here because it's not a player, it.

959
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: Is a coach. It is Vikfuanio.

960
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: Oo.

961
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 4: I think that.

962
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: You know, it's so all Dolphins talk is always like

963
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 5: two of this, two of that. The wide receivers. You

964
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: know they want to they maybe want to add Dalvin Cook.

965
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: I get it.

966
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: It's always gonna be that way with this team under

967
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel. But Jalen Phillips, Christian Wilkins, Bradley Chubb, Jalen Ramsey,

968
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: Xavien Howard, Andrew Van Giggle. There's like seven more people

969
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: I could name if you go look at their defense

970
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 5: essentially analytically on PFF's like team page. There is no

971
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 5: real weakness here. And I think that in this division

972
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 5: where it's gonna be like doggy dog like, this is

973
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 5: the defense that I think could put lights out on Buffalo,

974
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: could rattle the Jets. Patriots offense doesn't scare me. It's

975
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 5: like this defense to me, has a chance to be special.

976
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 5: And everywhere that Vic Fangio.

977
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 4: Goes, it's like, yes, he flips the switch.

978
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 5: And I think this is quietly one of the better

979
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 5: coaching staffs in the league because McDaniel is special to

980
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: me as a head coach. He does something different than

981
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: other coaches do.

982
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: And I know that there's probably people are like, well,

983
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: Vic Fangio, well came in and you know, consulted with

984
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: the Eagles before playing Patrick Mahomes, like come on, like right,

985
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: Sometimes things don't don't necessarily work out, but I love it.

986
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: Vic is spicy. Yeah, back to he's a spicy individual.

987
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 5: He's a bit cantankerous. I had to interview him once.

988
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: I think I mentioned it was just like he didn't

989
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 5: want to see I mean, on any level.

990
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't help but think he kind of buried Bradley

991
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: Chubb publicly and now Bradley Chubb is playing for him.

992
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: But then I heard some I think there was some

993
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb comments like he loves Vic Fangoe. He's the

994
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: type of guy that can bury you a little publicly,

995
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: but they love him behind the scenes. I'm going to

996
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: do the Patriots. I have Christian Barmore as my spicy player.

997
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: So this is interpreting spicy in that I just think

998
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: he's integral to what's going to happen to this team.

999
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: I think their front seven, especially their defensive line, could

1000
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: be very spicy, as good as it's been in six

1001
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: years or so since kind of the Chandler Jones peak.

1002
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: And I think bar Moore is the key to it

1003
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: all because he was really their best player as a rookie,

1004
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: which really doesn't happen much as an interior player was

1005
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: hurt last year, wasn't quite as impactful. I think Bill

1006
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: Belichick's very high on him, but just didn't pop as

1007
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: much a year ago. And if he comes back and

1008
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: now is a third year player who's been in that

1009
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: scheme and they know how to use him and he

1010
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: lives up to his potential, I think you could see

1011
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: him as an all pro type of player and take

1012
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: that unit, which is to me very deep and talented,

1013
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: to another level where they're one of the best groups

1014
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: in the entire NFL.

1015
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: I thought you might go Bill O'Brien there, because so

1016
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 5: much if it's on that, I didn't think coaches that's

1017
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: a good way to think. I wish I said some

1018
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 5: of these teams just like all kind of rests on this,

1019
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: but this is a Bill Belichick type player.

1020
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: You said it.

1021
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just like and I trust Belichick just

1022
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: to continue to make him the star that he is.

1023
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's been of course, looking back, you know,

1024
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: Dante took that year off but eventually retired, and like

1025
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: people talk about this, you know Belichick and Saban relationship,

1026
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, the players come in and it doesn't

1027
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: necessarily here's another instance where they got a good player

1028
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: and a good spot. Probably Barmar could have gone a

1029
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: little bit earlier, but he fell to New England and

1030
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 3: it's worked out. Like it's it's one of those.

1031
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: As much as we criticize when they take somebody it

1032
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, this is a hit. This is a

1033
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: win for Bill.

1034
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely needs to get on the field a little more. Patrick,

1035
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: you got the Jets wrapping up the AFC.

1036
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: Oh so much young talent, so many guys who had

1037
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: good ricky seasons, And I'm gonna take one of them.

1038
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: But it's not the one you think. Makai Beckton had

1039
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: a great season twenty he has a catastrophic knee injury.

1040
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: It takes a little bit longer and people are out

1041
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 3: on him. It's like, oh, yeah, he's not trying hard

1042
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: because no, I think it's spicy to believe in mckaie Beckton,

1043
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: a guy who had so much promise. Dwayne Brown recently

1044
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: had surgery and so it's it's gonna move McKay Beckton

1045
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: up a little bit. Is is circumstance to get on

1046
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: the field, and I think he's closer to being back.

1047
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: And I have a spicy belief in McKay Beckton despite

1048
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: the fact there's a guy who's very spicy is going

1049
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: to be his quarterback. I think it's spicy.

1050
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: To be spicy.

1051
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: It is like there's a high variance for what we

1052
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 5: could get from him, but there have been very positive

1053
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 5: off season reports. I think you're right that the stories

1054
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 5: of him maybe not being the most driven individual on

1055
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 5: the planet or in the past at this point, that

1056
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 5: left side of the line. If he turns out to

1057
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 5: be the guy that we think he is, Lake and

1058
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 5: Tomlinson a guard, Joe Tipman at center, I mean, it's

1059
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: Vera Tucker at Reigart. You start to see it and

1060
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: it's like it's absolutely critical that Aaron Rodgers is kept upright.

1061
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: The way that like career arcs go. Even if Beckton

1062
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: has an up and down career, I feel like he

1063
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: is maybe gonna be good for one season or two

1064
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: seasons where like he's a different maker, and this would

1065
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: make sense as that type of season. Like he they

1066
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: haven't given up on him. He's shown he has talent.

1067
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: He showed that as a rookie. How are we feeling

1068
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: at halftime here?

1069
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: I feel I feel good?

1070
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean we bid off a lot here. What's our

1071
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: halftime show? What did you prepare? I mean clay Bon's

1072
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: and shorts here. I don't know, maybe it's June. Yeah,

1073
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what the halftime show would be here,

1074
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: but he looks more just ready for one.

1075
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: Well, we got we got Taylor and Beyonce are coming

1076
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: this summer and fall over at so Far. I guess

1077
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: if people, if people are listening to this, we're gonna

1078
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: sit here till then they could play. They could play there.

1079
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: No, I'm feeling good, like a snack or anything.

1080
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: No, I'm ready to Okay, elve into the third.

1081
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, we also drive up to so Far and people

1082
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: would know this from out of town. It's right next

1083
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: to the Old Forum, which is where the Lakers used

1084
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: to play, which they now have turned into a concert venue.

1085
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: And uh, they have some big acts there. But then

1086
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: you also have ones where Brian Adams is playing soon

1087
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: with Joan Jet as his what do they call it,

1088
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, opening band. Yeah, and I thought, well, Brian

1089
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: Adams sell you know, playing a eight thousand person stadium

1090
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty three with Joan Jet. Surprise.

1091
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised.

1092
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: It is interesting around our workplace because whenever one of

1093
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 5: these shows occur, whether it's at SOFI or the Forum,

1094
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 5: you just see a very different from show to show.

1095
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 5: The crowds that gather and this is going to be

1096
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 5: a lot of dudes and chicks in their forties and

1097
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: fifties listening to Brian Adams. But then there was one

1098
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 5: band that showed up and it was like hundreds of like

1099
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 5: moms and young girls and Kitty Cat ears walking around.

1100
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: Well, Suga, I might be saying his name wrong, Like

1101
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: a solo act from BTS was there last week, and yeah,

1102
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: the place was swarmed for days.

1103
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean, the Intuit Dome is going to be done

1104
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 3: pretty soon and then we could just have three wide concerts.

1105
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: All the time.

1106
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: That's where the Clippers are going to play, which is yeah,

1107
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: about to be about two blocks away, and the key

1108
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: in the the Forum where the concerts is literally like

1109
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: sharing a parking lot fearing on commute from Hell. It's

1110
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot, all right. That was our halftime show. Mark,

1111
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna kick us off in the NFC north of

1112
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: the Bears.

1113
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 5: All right, Dj Moore, I just I think this is this,

1114
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 5: this pick up when we talk about what happened with

1115
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts a year ago. You go get aj Brown

1116
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: and suddenly the whole offense starts to sing. And I

1117
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 5: think the Justin Fields having done QB index, I'd always

1118
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 5: get these tweets when I put as he climbed up

1119
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 5: and up the rankings, and it was Joel he can run,

1120
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: you can do nothing else.

1121
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 4: He did improve as a passer.

1122
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 5: There was a stretch of the season where you started

1123
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 5: to see it, and I think it's fair to expect

1124
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 5: that jump. And I think Dj Moore is the kind

1125
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 5: of guy that only he can separate. He had more average,

1126
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 5: more yards of separation last season than every receiver in

1127
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 5: the league other than Justin Jefferson, Ceedee Lamb and DeVante

1128
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 5: Adams We've.

1129
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: Talked about here.

1130
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 5: Well, I love that fit to Justin Fields, and I

1131
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 5: think that if you're Ryan, like Ryan Poles went out

1132
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 5: and got the kind of player.

1133
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: It was a very savvy trade.

1134
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 5: I think we all look at that, the fact that

1135
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 5: the Bears, you know, there's no winner of that trade yet,

1136
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 5: but that to go get Dj Moore, I think it

1137
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 5: completely changed what they can do on offense. And Moore's

1138
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: already shown that he can do it. So it's not

1139
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 5: a draft guy you're hoping hits.

1140
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: You know he will, right, He's a guy like every

1141
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: team could use. Sometimes you get carried away of like

1142
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: you need to search for the true number one. This

1143
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: this that, Like he reminds me of like a basketball

1144
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: player that's like a wing that can hit threes and defend.

1145
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: Like literally every team could use Dj Moore and he's

1146
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: gonna make them way better.

1147
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were points during late last season where you

1148
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: had the lesser Saint Brown Brother and Chase Claypool were

1149
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: like the best guys out in the route for Chicago, and.

1150
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: It's like E is, Yeah, that's the red I didn't

1151
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: feel like.

1152
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: I mean, he also has the dad, the Mister Universe dad, Like,

1153
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: I'm not picking him Monrad though, as my lie and

1154
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: I could have. He's pretty spicy, But I'm gonna go

1155
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: Jamir Gibbs. There was so much focus on the value

1156
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: of that pick, taking a running back there and who

1157
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,479
Speaker 2: else they could have taken, and I think a little

1158
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: bit less on Okay, how is he gonna fit into

1159
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: this offense? What's he going to do? I am excited

1160
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: as a fan of football to watch him in this

1161
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: offense because you have a road grading offensive line, just

1162
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: a big group that's played together. You have a great

1163
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 2: coordinator in Ben Johnson, and I hear the Lions fans

1164
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 2: that push back when I was like, did they upgrade

1165
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: that much at running back overall? Because like their last

1166
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: group was good. Maybe the last group looked better than

1167
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: it really was because the scheme and the line are

1168
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: so good. Jamir Gibbs might be the number one home

1169
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: run hitter in this offense for the first six weeks

1170
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: of the season. I think he is until Jamison Williams

1171
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: is back. He's the guy that can take it to

1172
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: the house. I found it a little curious. I like

1173
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: the pick, and I think it's like, why not go

1174
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: get those guys like, but it was a bit of

1175
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: a curious overhaul at the position. Maybe they weren't as

1176
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: maybe it was had a to do with the law.

1177
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: They were down on swift for sure.

1178
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 5: Well, I think, yeah, whatever, you could see that as

1179
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: the way the season played out. But I'm not a

1180
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 5: huge believer in David Montgomery is a big like upgrade

1181
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 5: over any of those guys from last season. So you

1182
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 5: know this is a coaching staff self scouting.

1183
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotta be gibbs and looking well because I

1184
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 3: know that a lot of criticism will come in. It's like, well,

1185
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: he had that success. He's playing with the Heisman Trophy winner,

1186
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: number one overall pick. But go back to his time

1187
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: at Georgia Tech, he was still at like five point

1188
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: eight yards per carre at Tech. Like, this is a

1189
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: guy who's been right around six yards to carry every

1190
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: single season in college football.

1191
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: I think it.

1192
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 2: Translates Montgomery no spice, yeah, and sometimes on the soup

1193
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: options you can get mild yeah, but there's actually an

1194
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: option no spice, Like if kids are going anti spice,

1195
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: no spice. Randy Chavez is stepping up.

1196
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: Talk to me.

1197
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: He's usually in the back helping produce in helping us

1198
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, but he's a big time Packers fan.

1199
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: He's gonna give us spiciest Packer Randy what's up.

1200
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: In my lifetime, the Packers have had a quarterback, they've

1201
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: had the receiver, they've had selective defensive players. You could

1202
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: argue they have the running back right now. The one

1203
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle the Packers have never had is

1204
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: a dynamic tight end. And I feel like this year

1205
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe the year the beginning of a dynamic career. My

1206
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: spicy pick is rookie tight end Luke Musgrave Okay at

1207
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: six ' six running a four point six four to

1208
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: six forty. I mean, he's dynamic. It's a tight end

1209
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: that moves like a receiver. Lafloor says he does have

1210
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: an elite trait in that he can flat fly and

1211
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: he's a large target. I mean, look at the last

1212
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: five Super Bowls. The last four of the last five

1213
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: winners have had a dynamic tight end. This could be

1214
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: the missing piece. Maybe.

1215
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: Are you worried at all? He's just so tall when

1216
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: he's running down the field. I just I worried, like

1217
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: he's gonna get hurt, and he has been hurt.

1218
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean that was sort of my thing when it

1219
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: was like Gronk. When Gronk was running around, I was like,

1220
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: how is this practice?

1221
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: He was thick.

1222
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't even I mean you can get you

1223
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: can get thicker, right, hit the gym, let's get the

1224
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: games up, you know. But I think it's six six

1225
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: and already running a four to six. That's that's what.

1226
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: Gronk was built, like a robot from outer space. But

1227
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 3: like Brady would send Gronk on missions, and Gronk would

1228
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: accept those missions and for some reason maintain this relationship

1229
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: with Tom. But I just think to a certain extent,

1230
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: if your quarterbacks getting you blasted, that that's that's on

1231
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: the course.

1232
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: So what's better for like a Jordan Love who's starting

1233
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 5: his career essentially now, to have a tight ending corn lion.

1234
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 5: I mean that's like when you don't have that, I

1235
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 5: think you see young quarterbacks suffer without that element to

1236
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 5: the offense.

1237
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. Like anyone that tall, you just

1238
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: worried he's gonna take a hit, which happened. Maybe it's

1239
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: just because it happened to him in college, but he

1240
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: a guy that tall, that fast is pretty rare, and

1241
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: he was already taken for first team reps. I love

1242
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: I love it, Randy. You stepped right in out of

1243
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: the park seamless. Uh, Minnesota Vikings.

1244
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: Patrick, Let's let's get super spicy.

1245
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Rager is my spicy players in Minnesota Bikers because

1246
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: it would be easy to take Kirk. It's gonna be

1247
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 1: Kirk contract Field.

1248
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: There's a gonna be plenty of time to talk about

1249
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins and his quest for money, which is he's

1250
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: always going to be successful and he should try to

1251
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: get as much as possible. But like, so, feeling's out.

1252
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: I think there's a spot open. Jordan Addison is going

1253
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: to come in, but how how much action are we

1254
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: expecting the rookie to to really get? Like, I think

1255
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: Jalen Rager is going to be a part of the offense,

1256
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 3: not necessarily throwaways, but especially in a in what could

1257
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 3: be a really Kirk themed dear where the Vikings may

1258
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 3: be playing from behind a lot. I think there's their

1259
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: space for Jalen Rager in our lives.

1260
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 1: And he's still an explosive player to me, and Greg

1261
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: has a pained look on his face.

1262
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I've seen enough of Rager. He's

1263
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: played a lot. He had one hundred yards last year.

1264
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: I was like, did I miss him one hundred and

1265
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: four yards? He did have some good I feel like

1266
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: he had some. Did he have some return moments? Though not?

1267
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: You know, new Ago is the better one. That's a

1268
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: spicy pick.

1269
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: There's no question I wanted to be spicy.

1270
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: I like l A.

1271
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: Kg Osborne a lot. I kind of feel like Jalen

1272
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 5: Rager's sort of playing for his career.

1273
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: At this point. Yeah, so there will motivation.

1274
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: I sort of feel like I came in here and

1275
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: Patrick he needed a few more minutes to finish his

1276
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: spicy homerk like. Rager was just like a guy he

1277
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: wrote down at the last second.

1278
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: It took it. Initially when I looked at when I

1279
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: looked at.

1280
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: Your text, I thought I was just picking ten spicy

1281
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: players and all the way here it was like, oh

1282
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: they're from particular team.

1283
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, check the email, Yeah there was. That

1284
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: was a little confusing, spicy. That was tough. I think

1285
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: Rager is your guy now though.

1286
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: I'll put a sandwich on Jalen ragor forty catches.

1287
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I will take you. Put that down. Let's get it,

1288
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Nick Fortier mark it down. Anytime Jalen Rager makes a play,

1289
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna bug Patrick in the newsroom. You got

1290
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: the Falcons. Mark all right, I.

1291
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 5: Want you to imagine two players kind of arm and

1292
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 5: arm forming one player, and it's b Jon Robinson and

1293
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 5: Tyler L.

1294
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 4: Gier is my guy from last season.

1295
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: By the way, PFF's fifth fifth overall running back Tyler

1296
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 5: je Everyone's like, oh, he's out the picture now, No,

1297
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 5: he's not. This offense is gonna look like something from

1298
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 5: the early eighties. And I think that Arthur Smith he

1299
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 5: needed a couple of seasons to kind of get it

1300
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 5: into shape. Desmond Ritter, we're sort of waiting to see

1301
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 5: what he is through the air. But this offensive line,

1302
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 5: after years of wreckage, is they went and signed their

1303
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 5: own guys. I thought that they built up this powerful

1304
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 5: offensive line by Jhon Robinson's been used all over the

1305
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 5: place in mini camp. I think they're gonna just find

1306
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 5: creative ways to unleasham Al Jier can come in and

1307
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 5: hammer you when we're doing other things. With Bijon Robinson,

1308
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 5: they feel like an asteroid just about to destroy defenses.

1309
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 5: I really I'm not overstating this. When I think about,

1310
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 5: like my ranking of teams that I'm most interested to

1311
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 5: watch out of the gate, the Falcons are my kind

1312
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 5: of football team. Right now, and I know it's a

1313
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 5: little bit zigging than when the others are passing heavy

1314
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 5: all over the place.

1315
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna hammer teams.

1316
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: They are leaning into it. They're doing it in a

1317
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: way that I thought the Patriots were doing a couple of

1318
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: years ago. It's like, Okay, everyone's gonna get lighter, let's

1319
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: get heavier, and they're they're like speaking with their actions.

1320
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: Matt Collins is their number to running back. You're right,

1321
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: Algier will probably find his way to one hundred and

1322
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: seventy five, two hundred touches. Anyways, it's just gonna be

1323
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you. The fact that, like it's

1324
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: also Drake Lennon and Kyle Pitts as they're one and

1325
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: two of these two massive guys who can also do

1326
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: a little blocking.

1327
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 4: Think the lead of the league in rushing attempts. So

1328
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 4: there's there's plenty.

1329
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, there's there's a lot of carries to go

1330
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 3: around and everybody. You know, you can't give Bijon all

1331
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: of that, but he can. He can have a lot

1332
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: of it, and they have the talent to do it.

1333
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: He's a big dude, Algier. I have the Panthers I'm

1334
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: going j C. Horn. I mean, you were born into

1335
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 2: the Horn family. Spice is part of the equation. It's

1336
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: in the DNA. Anyone who is Joe Horn's son is

1337
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: full of spice.

1338
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: And J C.

1339
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: Horn looked like a true CB, one like top five

1340
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: cornerback in the league as a rookie. He had that injury,

1341
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: he came back last year. I think when he played

1342
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: was still excellent, and I think he's a guy that

1343
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: a Giro evro there defensive coordinator will build around. So

1344
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: to me, he seems like a guy and this can

1345
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: happen at cornerbacks. Cornerbacks can become stars. I think because

1346
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: of his personality and because of his game like he

1347
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: can develop into a star who's talking a lot of

1348
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: trash and who's backing it up in a defensive oriented division.

1349
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 5: In general, I mean, it's sort of like his rookie

1350
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 5: year last year, because he only what played three games

1351
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 5: as a in his true season, and so I mean

1352
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 5: you do expect a leap. And like I whenever there's

1353
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 5: a coordinator shift, you're looking at players that may not

1354
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 5: fit the new scheme necessarily, but not with hit like that.

1355
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 4: He's scheme. You know you know, there's no issues with that.

1356
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: And after the rule departure, it seemed like there was

1357
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a of an idea what

1358
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 3: to do with JC. You're not trying to put jac

1359
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: in a situation where he's making a whole bunch of

1360
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: tackles necessarily at the lone of scrimmage.

1361
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: A guy, it's a cover guy. He's a pure cover guy.

1362
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: Let's have him cover some people.

1363
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: There's not that many of those anywhere either, kind of

1364
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: like that. You know some I mean, you're gonna have

1365
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: to tackle a little bit like a Sante Sam like

1366
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: you will have to tackle will find you these days.

1367
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: But guys who are just more purely that's a guy

1368
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: you can leave out on an island. The stereotype J C. Horn.

1369
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: Let's go to Patrick. He's got the Saints.

1370
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: I've got the Saints, and I've got Juwan Johnson as

1371
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: my spicy player guy who came on towards the end

1372
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 3: of last season. And people are looking at the car

1373
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 3: thing and I know you guys feel you know, car

1374
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: Garoppolo is one for one.

1375
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is an upgrade over Andy Dalton.

1376
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Greg, I think that's fair I would agree

1377
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: with that, and.

1378
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 3: So we saw what Juwan Johnson was capable of doing.

1379
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: Another year in the same situation, I think it could

1380
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: be a big year for Juwan Johnson, who's the tight

1381
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 3: end fifteen right now, I think more like nine would

1382
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: probably be appropriate for Juwan jo.

1383
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 2: I like the Patrick on the Fantasy Show is given

1384
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: his fantasy takes.

1385
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 5: It's good we need that angle a little more. The

1386
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 5: only thing I'd say though, because I overall I'd take

1387
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 5: Car over Dalton. And but Dalton, like last season, played

1388
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 5: with this confidence, especially with the deep ball, and I

1389
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 5: think that he really unleashed some of their wideouts, and

1390
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 5: so it's like, you hope that that is equal at

1391
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 5: least with Carr, who I think when Carr goes into

1392
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 5: a shell or when he misses, it's like really hard

1393
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 5: to watch.

1394
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: But we know he can throw to an athletic tight end.

1395
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: Not that that should be hard for a good quarterback,

1396
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: but I'm with you. Juwan Johnson has shown a lot.

1397
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: He is one of the most successful wide receiver to

1398
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: tight end transitions that I can think of. A lot

1399
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 2: of teams try that. Sean Payton started the process and

1400
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: he is really dynamic. He is fluid. I think did

1401
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: they extend his contract this offseason? That slipped a little

1402
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: under the radar. I could be wrong about that, but

1403
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: he is under contract. I shouldn't just ask questions without

1404
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: knowing they did extend his contract.

1405
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: But we'll look at that.

1406
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: So there we go, two year deal for twelve million dollars.

1407
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: So they gave him some short term money. I think

1408
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: that will age extremely well. Let's go to the bucks.

1409
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: It's mark all right.

1410
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 5: If you're watching this on YouTube, I'd just like to

1411
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 5: bring up a photo here of my player.

1412
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 4: This is Cody Mock there.

1413
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 5: This is their right guard, rookie right guard, and he

1414
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: is an interesting individual.

1415
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: The flowing ginger Maine. You see it right there.

1416
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 5: I think their offensive line was a problem last year.

1417
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 5: You got Tristan Wurf's back, there are some problems. I

1418
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 5: think at left guard. Ryan Jensen did not grade out

1419
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: very well. So I think this is part of rebuilding

1420
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 5: your line, and Cody Mock is a big part of that.

1421
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 5: I love some of his college story because he didn't

1422
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 5: really even play in high school at all. He transitioned

1423
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 5: in college to play this position. He is six ' five,

1424
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 5: three hundred and two pounds but very athletic. He ranked

1425
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 5: out ninetieth percentile on the forty yard dash at his position,

1426
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 5: not against wide receivers. We get that in ninety eight

1427
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 5: percentile on the three cones, so he can move.

1428
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 4: He's agile.

1429
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 5: They need help at this position, and I think it's

1430
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 5: sort have got a spicy look to him.

1431
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 4: If you don't.

1432
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: Agree, I totally agree. And this picture we're looking at

1433
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: doesn't even show that he's missing his two front teeth.

1434
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: And I think he has said previously he doesn't plan

1435
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: to fix a plan. So after the NFL he thought like, well,

1436
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: they could just get messed up again.

1437
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: I would There's there's a signial like I love sandwiches,

1438
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: I love biting into delicious food, and I feel like

1439
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: I'd be missing something.

1440
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't look like he's you know, lacking

1441
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: for delicious food.

1442
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: But for the for the YouTube viewers, because everybody's stationary there,

1443
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: he's literally putting on gloves.

1444
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: Is there a fan?

1445
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 3: It's not a gust of wind. His hair is blowing majestically.

1446
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 4: That is an excellent stake because.

1447
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: It's like so like he's not going to throw his

1448
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: hair back like that to put gloves on. Why is

1449
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 3: his hair flowing?

1450
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: He's magical. That's what he looks like everything.

1451
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: I think it's just consistently like that.

1452
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: All right. That is it. Where you're going to take

1453
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: one more break before we wrap up with the NFC

1454
01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: West and East. I got the Cardinals. I'm going Buddha Baker, man.

1455
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: It was tough to pick a Cardinals player. Buddha Baker,

1456
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 2: to me, is a spicy player who got a lot

1457
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: more attention over the last year, not only because he's good,

1458
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: but because he was trying to keep this team together

1459
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: on hard knocks, and now he was looking for a

1460
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: trade this offseason. He also said he will be there

1461
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: at their mandatory mini camp. I don't think they're going

1462
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: to trade him because I think at some point you

1463
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: need to have good players, and he's under a pretty

1464
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: big contract, but you don't want to just get rid

1465
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: of good young players, which he is. And he's a

1466
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: player to build around, and he's like a modern day

1467
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: Bob Sanders or something. I mean, he's much better in

1468
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: coverage because the NFL has changed, they wouldn't be able

1469
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: to stay on the field, but he just throws his

1470
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: body around and he's like that dude, you would love

1471
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: to play with that cleave. I mean, it.

1472
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 5: Concerns me that he's openly asked to play for a

1473
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 5: different team because it's like, you gotta I think this

1474
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 5: year is a lost season and like these players are

1475
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 5: a little too savvy to just trust in a rebuilding

1476
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 5: project out of from outer space. I mean, we don't

1477
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 5: know the coach, the general managers knew. There's not a

1478
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 5: lot of reason for dug in hope and if your

1479
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 5: boot you could go somewhere else and be a star

1480
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 5: right away.

1481
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: He could be a guy that gets traded at the

1482
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: trade deadline, like one of those guys we hear about

1483
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: at least talked about.

1484
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if we think about a career in the

1485
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 3: span of eight to ten years, and Buddha Baker has

1486
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: been there, I think this is year four in the

1487
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: desert and all of the things, all of the changes

1488
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: he's seen, what's what's gonna be there?

1489
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: For?

1490
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: Is this where I want to be for the remainder

1491
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: of my career. I think it's a reasonable thing for

1492
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 3: him to ask that, considering like the way things have

1493
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: been and now people are talking, oh, well, they're gonna

1494
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 3: have the number one overall pick.

1495
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 2: Huh, this is gonna be on seventh season, Buddha Baker

1496
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 2: that sneaks up on you. Holy crap, you have the Rams, Patrick.

1497
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: I have the Rams. I'm gonna take another really good player.

1498
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a really good wide receiver. It's Cooper Cup.

1499
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup is the spiciest player on the Rams. So

1500
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: people might think like, oh, there's what spicy about Cooper Cup.

1501
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 3: Wash wash, this dude stiff arm like six people, and

1502
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: then have somebody say, oh, he's not that athletic.

1503
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: What does he have to do? Spicy? Do you have

1504
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: to beat a class?

1505
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: You have to outrun everybody in stiff arm six people

1506
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: on the way to the end zone for a touchdown.

1507
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at cause you have Cup could be

1508
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 3: on that path. We know that Aaron Donald's going to

1509
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. What are the Rams doing? Like,

1510
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 3: what's what's the plan for twenty twenty three Because at

1511
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: a certain point, like I'm looking at Cooper Cup, I'm

1512
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 3: looking at Matthew Stafford like I want more for them

1513
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: because I know that they're good players that can they

1514
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 3: can be successful, and I'm just I love Cooper Cup

1515
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: and I want them to get back to you know.

1516
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have not talked to Cooper cup like specifically

1517
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: in a while.

1518
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 5: Well no, I mean, but we have talked about to

1519
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 5: your point, Patrick, just what some of these figures on

1520
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 5: the Rams stand out as sort of a top heavy

1521
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 5: luxury on a team that I think really just has

1522
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 5: they've gone super young. They have like thirty forty like

1523
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 5: young for rookies essentially on the roster, and I think

1524
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 5: they want to view this. I hope they hope it's

1525
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 5: a one year rebuild where you come out of this

1526
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 5: and cut his plug back into an offense. I just

1527
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 5: think Matthew Stafford is someone that could get moved if

1528
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 5: a disaster strikes Eltz where I don't know why you

1529
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 5: trade Cooper Cupp Dough so he hang on to him.

1530
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: He had that tightrope surgery on his ankle, but there's

1531
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: not many people around him. I mean, he had one

1532
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five catches two years ago. I mean,

1533
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 2: is he a top five fantasy pick? Again, You'd love

1534
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: to see how he looks coming off that injury, but

1535
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: if he's on the field, he will be worth a

1536
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: top five pick in fantasy.

1537
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: This is a guy who's who's already come back from

1538
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 3: a torn acl early in his care and you know

1539
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: people have tight rope and they come back in three weeks.

1540
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: I just think like there wasn't a reason to bring

1541
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: it right.

1542
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying, like, why wouldn't he have

1543
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five catches?

1544
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: Seattle fifty load him up.

1545
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 5: Seahawks quietly have one of the better rosters in football.

1546
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 5: That's one of your one year rebuilding jobs happened right

1547
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 5: here in the same division, and the early returns on

1548
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigba are really positive.

1549
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: Gino Smith was talking him up.

1550
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 5: I know that you know this is not non padded,

1551
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 5: non contact scenarios at at this point, but they are

1552
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 5: talking to about him as someone that just shows right

1553
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 5: out of the gate the juice and the spice to

1554
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 5: develop very quickly in a wide receiver room that already

1555
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 5: has Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf. This is the best,

1556
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 5: This could be the best trio in the league. And

1557
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 5: I think you're going to get something right away from him.

1558
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 5: They're comparing some of his skills to essentially like a

1559
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 5: plug and play Doug Baldwin and I this is someone

1560
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 5: that had three hundred and forty seven yards, fifteen catches

1561
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 5: and three touchdowns in a Rose Bowl.

1562
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: I think his skill set also marries so well with

1563
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,879
Speaker 2: the two receivers that are playing on the side of him,

1564
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: and also with Gino Smith, who to me is a

1565
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: touch in timing and accuracy quarterback. He's not, you know,

1566
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: a power just chuck it down the field. And that's

1567
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: what Smith in jigued as well. Once so the two

1568
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: guys get on the same page. I think you'll see

1569
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: that connection like Gino has with Locket too.

1570
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the feel. It's it's going to take time

1571
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: right for him to develop that feel and that trust

1572
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: with the returns to where JSN is going to be.

1573
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: But as a Geno believer, I can't help but to believe.

1574
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be great.

1575
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: The only thing is in fantasy there's only so many

1576
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: yards to go around because they're gonna run the ball

1577
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: a lot.

1578
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I also am more concerned with real life, right.

1579
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: He could be a better real player than fantasy, is

1580
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: all I'm saying. Whereas like, all three of them cut

1581
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: into each other, but they're gonna be tough to stop.

1582
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: They're they're high on my list teams. I want to

1583
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 2: see forty nine ers. I struggled with this one because, like,

1584
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: I love Ayuk, but is he just established? I love

1585
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: watching him. I'm doing a last minute change. I'm changing

1586
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: it from Ayuke to Colton.

1587
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 4: Mckivitt's spicy Okay.

1588
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: Every day practically I pass by uh, Colton Sessler's former

1589
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: grade school and I see his lovely face. It's still up.

1590
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: It's on multiple corners, heavy traffic corners, and he's like

1591
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: it was like five years ago. This has nothing to

1592
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: do with Coulton mckivts have pivoted here, but I just

1593
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: like that story. And here's another man named Colton, and

1594
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: Colton mckivitt's is the new right tackle of the forty

1595
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: nine ers, and he's standing in a little bit for

1596
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,440
Speaker 2: this entire offensive line where it's like, yeah, they have continuity,

1597
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: but it's Spencer Brentford, Spencer Buford, Jake Brendle and Aaron

1598
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: Banks and Colton mckivit's are the guys next to Trent Williams.

1599
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that is an imbalanced line. One first ballot

1600
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,879
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and these other dudes, and they're trusting

1601
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: that they'll make it happen. But to me, that's spicy.

1602
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: That's a spicy question to watch. I like you.

1603
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: I like the spice in the because there's so much

1604
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: that people view. It's like, oh, well, Kyle's going to

1605
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 3: figure it out.

1606
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: Four fourth year, fifth round pick, by the way, who's

1607
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: been in the system for four years, so I should

1608
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 2: give some background.

1609
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: He's ready.

1610
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 5: You know, they put that signage up with my child's face.

1611
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 5: It was just like a ten foot image of his face.

1612
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 5: Never told us, never paid.

1613
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 2: Us for it. It was very on your rear. You were

1614
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: pretty upset about it.

1615
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 5: I'm not like Colton was fine with it, so as

1616
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 5: long as he is. But it's like, would you maybe

1617
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 5: tell a parent that we're gonna splash your child's face.

1618
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: Well, that was when he was like six or seven, right,

1619
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: that's when the pictures from Yeah revisit him. Now where

1620
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: he's in middle school? What is he entering fifth sixth grade?

1621
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 4: He's entering sixth grade next year.

1622
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: Even even now, like a child's not gonna be able

1623
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 3: to provide consent, like maybe talk to the parents before

1624
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: you plaster an eggs.

1625
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: Little I have I have thought about going out there

1626
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: in the in the night and just ripping it down. Yeah,

1627
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 2: they'd have to take it.

1628
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 4: I'm annoyed now.

1629
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to deface it though he's a beautiful

1630
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: young boy. Patrick. We're wrapping up with the Cowboys. I'm

1631
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: just saying, weird if I defaced it, but I would

1632
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 2: just take it.

1633
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 5: I'd love to see solid, love to see Greg taken

1634
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 5: in by the cops for you know, oh God, disturbance

1635
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 5: at two Catholic school signs.

1636
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah it's a Catholic school. I don't want to call

1637
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: them out, but yeah, it's out there.

1638
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1639
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 3: I will take Brandon Cooks as my spicy player. He's

1640
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 3: who I was thinking of where a player was kind

1641
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 3: of toiling and futility in Houston, and now he has

1642
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: an opportunity to be a two on a good team

1643
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 3: with a good quarterback. And we seen Brandon the thousand

1644
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 3: yard streak finally came to an end last season. If

1645
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: he if he accomplished that, I'd say put him in

1646
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: Canton immediately. But I think it's things are going to

1647
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: be a whole lot better for Brandon Cooks, and I

1648
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 3: think it's going to be what the Cowboys were missing

1649
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: last year.

1650
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 5: They were really missing it, and it stands out to

1651
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 5: me when we talked to Cede Lamb at the Super

1652
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 5: Bowl and he was pedaling deodorant and actually gave me

1653
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 5: his stick of old spice yodorant, which I still you know,

1654
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 5: it's my backup jurn soill he's once in a while,

1655
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 5: but like.

1656
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: He was, essentially when does backup come up?

1657
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 5: Well, you know, like if you're in a pinch in

1658
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 5: the normal brand that I mentioned, like I use that

1659
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 5: and runs out, got to go to podcast. So there's

1660
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 5: just you know, interesting, it's good to have two of everything,

1661
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 5: I think. But but this Ceedee Lamb was lobbying, you know,

1662
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 5: verbally Jerry Jones to go get help for essentially the offense,

1663
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 5: and it was that wide receiver and this is a

1664
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 5: perfect edition for them.

1665
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 2: He's kind of they ouh, that perfect number two where

1666
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: you're not you you want to get him as many

1667
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: touches keep him happy. But he also kind of knows

1668
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: where he is in the pecking order and just dude

1669
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: gets buckets anywhere he goes. He produces there. At some

1670
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: point he will get old, but I think his skill

1671
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: set will age fairly well. He's always a stronger player

1672
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,799
Speaker 2: than I think people give him he will never get old. Really,

1673
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 2: you know, all right.

1674
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: He's actually a mortal Giants mark in these segments when

1675
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: we hear last week, we kind of run out of

1676
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: things to talk about.

1677
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 5: It gets real quiet. I'm going Darren Waller because I mean,

1678
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 5: there's a lot of obvious faces there we could go

1679
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 5: with in New York. But I feel like the ceiling

1680
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 5: of this offense would be suddenly different and higher if

1681
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 5: you get a full, durable season of Darren Waller playing

1682
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 5: the way that we know Dan and I uh spent

1683
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 5: time with him when he was the broadcast boot camp

1684
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 5: two offseasons ago. In the flesh. He looks like a

1685
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 5: godlike specimen. It's just simply about staying healthy. I do

1686
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,839
Speaker 5: trust this coaching staff and Brian Dable to use them correctly.

1687
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 5: They've got Daniel Bellinger as well, but that's two very

1688
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 5: dangerous tight ends if you and I think for this

1689
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 5: kind of offense and like they're gonna have Daniel Jones,

1690
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 5: they're treating him differently as a quarterback through the air,

1691
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 5: and that started to happen a little bit towards the

1692
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 5: end of last season. But I love the idea in

1693
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 5: this New York Giants offensive where you're getting the waller

1694
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 5: from a couple of years ago, that would be spicy.

1695
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 2: It's a huge year for him, I mean just because

1696
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: I think he can have a great second act in

1697
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: with the Giants. He's the best receiver on this team.

1698
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: But last year, you know, he struggled to stay how

1699
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: he needs to stay on the field. You want to

1700
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: start off strong and kind of be that dude because

1701
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: I think he can get a thousand yards in this offense.

1702
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 2: There's no reason why he can't.

1703
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to not make a specific because he's not

1704
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce, right, but who says that there's some law

1705
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: that like your best receiver has to be a wide receiver, right,

1706
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 3: Like if just get the best eleven guys out there

1707
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: and make it.

1708
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean he already was the best receiver on those

1709
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: Raiders teams, right, Who else was on him?

1710
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: Renfro, I mean he was.

1711
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 4: One of those four or five game changing tight ends.

1712
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: Nelson Ago was their number one every one year. That

1713
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: was weird.

1714
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 4: Yikes, and Patriot give.

1715
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: Him a lot of money. I am gonna go with

1716
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: DeVante Smith, Davonte Smith, I should say of the Eagles

1717
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 2: as my spicy player. I thought about Jalen Carter because

1718
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 2: I do want to see him. I listen the Birds

1719
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 2: with Friends, the podcast about the Eagles that the athletic

1720
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 2: puts together. They do a great job. If your interest

1721
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: check check them out. But Wolf Zach Berman and they

1722
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: talked about it's just a thought that maybe they didn't

1723
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: even get a slot receiver this offseason, almost because they

1724
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 2: want to keep Davanta and AJ Brown as happy as possible,

1725
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 2: and that they're actually a little conscious of that and

1726
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: making sure these two guys are both so good that

1727
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: they want to make sure they're getting them the ball

1728
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: a lot every week, and that they're both so competitive

1729
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: that they get so open that there's only so many

1730
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: balls to go around between those two and godd her

1731
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: and like you don't need more, and talking about our

1732
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 2: friend Matt Harmon and reception perception. He looked at Deavonta

1733
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:59,759
Speaker 2: Smith's routes and like he wins everything in everywhere, every

1734
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: He is a superstar that could have superstar numbers, but

1735
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: he's playing next A J. Brown, so would be a

1736
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 2: little trickier. But I think the Eagles are conscious of

1737
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: that and they're just gonna make sure they keep these

1738
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: dudes happy because they're just the two best players, maybe

1739
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: on two of the best players on the team.

1740
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: It's just it does something to your offense to have

1741
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: two guys who can always get open and aj will

1742
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 3: make plays contested wise, and you can see Devonte make

1743
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 3: contested catches as well. But the ability to actually get

1744
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 3: open in your routes, whether it's zone, whether it's man,

1745
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: the entire route tree, it's you know, It's why those

1746
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 3: those body type and weight questions coming out into the

1747
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 3: draft were a little silly.

1748
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 5: Remember, like I'd pick the Eagles a lot down the stretch.

1749
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 5: I just enjoyed watching how they operated with zero mercy

1750
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 5: out of the gate, and when Brown and Smith would

1751
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 5: they would drop knockout punches on the opponent in the

1752
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 5: first quarter.

1753
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: He's also like he's strong, Like he's stronger than let's say,

1754
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: Jayalen Wattle, if you're going to compare the two, he's

1755
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: a strong even if he's a little lighter Washington. Let's

1756
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: wrap it up with the Commandos.

1757
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 3: Let's wrap it up with one scary Terry, who is

1758
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 3: a spicy player who is so consistent regardless of the

1759
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,799
Speaker 3: quarterback play and the quarterback situation. And he's very even keeled,

1760
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 3: But I think that you know, shift your your perspective

1761
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: of spice to somebody who puts a feeling in defensive

1762
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 3: coordinators to where Terry McLaurin can break the game open.

1763
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: And if Sam Howell gets together, I think we can

1764
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 3: have a great Terry season.

1765
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 5: And look what he's done with essentially zero at quarterback,

1766
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 5: total chaos at quarterback, and if you look at their

1767
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 5: ross dru on offense, really both sides of the ball,

1768
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 5: there is a lot to like about Washington and I

1769
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 5: struggle to believe that the coaching staff will even be

1770
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 5: there a year from now, depending on what happens, or

1771
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 5: especially what happens at quarterback. But mclaurin's done it wired

1772
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 5: to wire with terrible quarterback play.

1773
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: Well, I always remember that. I don't know if it

1774
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: was a Thursday night game we watched over at Keith's

1775
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: old place with Chris and it was a Washington game,

1776
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 2: and he was a huge McLaurin guy from the beginning,

1777
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: saying just like this, dude's the truth. He's a true

1778
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: number one. He's going to be a star. So as

1779
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: we wrap up here in the Chris was Westling podcast studio,

1780
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: he had eyes on mcluurin, you're right, like his play

1781
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 2: is spicy, him being a pro, and not like complaining

1782
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: who cares his plays?

1783
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: Ye, every every reason to complain he does.

1784
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: I know, Washington, you set me up last week Mark

1785
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: to like talk about how they're when we were talking

1786
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: projected starters, how balanced their rosters, and I kind of

1787
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: I didn't really hit it right. I wish I had said, like,

1788
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: they look like a good roster. They I don't know

1789
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: about the quarterback thing, but like if it was if

1790
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,839
Speaker 2: you put a good quarterback on that team, you'd be like, Okay,

1791
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: this is a.

1792
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 3: Team, let's see it, Sam, it's a big show us.

1793
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: We did it. We picked the spicy.

1794
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: Thirty two teams.

1795
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever done a thirty two team

1796
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: thing in a single show, so that's breaking ground. Maybe,

1797
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: well we do it.

1798
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 3: Well, you're right.

1799
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 2: I like to just say things, uh and not fact check.

1800
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: I can't think of an instance.

1801
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 5: It's an odd it's an odd thing to attempt to

1802
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 5: do in the in the first week of June.

1803
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: But I'm proud. I think it's good. I think it's good.

1804
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,879
Speaker 2: It gives a little something for everyone, and it's spicy

1805
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: and we got Randy Chavez involved, Spicy got Eric Roberts involved,

1806
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: and uh, we'll keep an eye on these mini camps

1807
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: this week and we'll be back on Thursday. Patrick, enjoy

1808
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: the rest of your week.

1809
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: I will, thanks gys.

1810
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: Look Dan back in the studio. Who knows, Maybe maybe

1811
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: colleenos thinking we bug her before the summer of Connie

1812
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: truly starts for Eric, for Randy, for Mark and Patrick

1813
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: heat the call