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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the two Lane Green Wave

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Speaker 1: are a burgeoning college football dynasty. I'm Greg Rosenthal and

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Speaker 1: beyond lucky today to be joined by Nick Shook, the

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Speaker 1: other kid from Akron. And yes, I know, Nick, you

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Speaker 1: have been playing EA College Football with the Green Wave

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Speaker 1: as your team. How are you doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Baby, Well, Craig, you know, not to spoil the surprise,

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Speaker 2: but the two lane Green Waiver the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: national champions.

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Speaker 1: My friend, let's go. I mean, two lane over indexes

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Speaker 1: in coolness factor because of that. Those uniforms. Oh wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you check us out on YouTube, you can see

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Speaker 1: Nick has been doing it big. Not surprised. Nick is

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Speaker 1: a budding gamer. We're gonna talk about that later in

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Speaker 1: the show. He's been doing it for a while. He's

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Speaker 1: got a Twitch stream, and we're gonna get Nick Shook's

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Speaker 1: three minute review on EA College Football twenty five. That

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Speaker 1: is what we're wrapping the show with. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why we're rapping, because usually you just bring the best

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Speaker 1: stuff right off the top, and that's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: best stuff we hear all day. Nick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously, how can you not be on

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Speaker 2: board with two lane as your national champs.

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Speaker 1: Hey, they were close to it. They want to what

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Speaker 1: do they call it? Power six? You know Bowl six Gate?

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Speaker 1: What do they call that? On the New Year Game?

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Speaker 1: A near six game a couple of years ago over

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Speaker 1: Caleb freaking Williams. That was amazing. Also coming up in

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Speaker 1: the show and is amazing is Ian Rapaport. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're having our Insider weekly segment every week. It'll be

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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minutes with Ian or Mike Garafolo. They

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Speaker 1: have a rivalry, so they don't just want one guy

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Speaker 1: to get all the shine. But this week it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Ian again. But before we do that, Nick, we

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Speaker 1: are gonna do our segment today, and it's gonna be simple.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna throw seg ideas back and forth overrated or

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Speaker 1: underrated players, and it's as simple as it gets. It

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Speaker 1: could be teams, actually doesn't have to be players, could

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Speaker 1: be coaches, could be units. It's whatever you think is

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Speaker 1: overrated or underrated going into the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get started by asking you to go. I

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Speaker 1: want you to start and give me, give me something underrated.

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Speaker 1: Let's be positive, yes.

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Speaker 2: Way to pass it down you know what, Greg, I

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Speaker 2: want to expand the boundaries of this exercise real quick.

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Speaker 2: Not only could it be teams, players, coaches, whatever I

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Speaker 2: wanted to be like theories, like just ideas, general trends

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Speaker 2: that could also be overrated, underrated, And for me, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to start underrated the Rams twenty twenty four draft.

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Speaker 3: And the reason that I say this is, look.

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Speaker 2: We all know what Kobe Turner did on the defensive

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Speaker 2: line last year in Los Angeles, who was not a

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Speaker 2: name that anybody was really paying attention to, and some

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Speaker 2: people might have wondered how to be play?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Was it part of playing next to Aaron Donald? No,

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Speaker 2: the kid's a stud. Well, then they just went and

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Speaker 2: reinvested in the defensive line again twice. They go get

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Speaker 2: Jared Verse, one of my favorite players in the draft,

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Speaker 2: they go get his Florida State teammate Braden Fisk in

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Speaker 2: the second round. And then on the offensive side, they

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Speaker 2: went and got Blake Korum, a running back at Michigan

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Speaker 2: prior in which they snagged Pooka Nakua and turned him

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Speaker 2: into a phenomenal receiver. I think that Less needs two

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Speaker 1: Wow. I'm surprised, not that that's not a good draft,

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Speaker 1: trade very little to get Carlton Davis, who to me

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Speaker 1: and everyone's just a little tired of the Lions at

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Greg, I don't know if you know this, but I'm

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Speaker 2: a football cynic and I always try to poke holes

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Speaker 2: the other shoe going to drop?

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Speaker 3: You know, when am I going to get disappointed.

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Speaker 2: We actually discussed this on you know, shameless plug my podcast,

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Speaker 2: to tell you. This roster looks better than it was

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Speaker 2: last year. Like they addressed their weaknesses. They went and

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Speaker 2: got Terry and Arnold. Their secondary was probably the worst

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Speaker 3: This is a team that I think is built for

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Speaker 2: So as much as because every year this happens, we

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Speaker 1: People. I thought the Lions might be that team last

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Speaker 2: And instead this is a team that I feel fully confident.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they win the Super Bowl. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I think they did a great job continuing to build

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Speaker 3: You're getting key players locked up, so I love it right.

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Speaker 1: And their defensive line, to me, was a little disappointing.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was promising going into last year. It's deep.

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Speaker 1: They still have a lot of gut. The guys they

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Speaker 3: No it's not.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to pull your takes out. I'm going

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Speaker 1: the Browns defense maybe a little overrated. And here's why

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Speaker 1: And you look at where they're spending money. Warren Sharp

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's partially because the bar was so low

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Speaker 2: Guys didn't know what they were doing deep into week fifteen,

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Speaker 3: But I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: In fact, that's one of the things I included in

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Speaker 2: of an aberration. I do think they come back to earth.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna be the best team, the

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Speaker 2: best defense in terms of yards per game allowed in

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Speaker 2: only start in the NFL last year against this Brown's defense.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you're gonna post gaudy numbers when you get

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Speaker 1: The amount of professionalism is oozing from Shook. Not only

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Speaker 1: did he plug his own podcast already, but he's willing

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Speaker 1: to say his team's own defense might be overrated. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: Shook hosts the only F one slash football podcast out there,

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Speaker 1: So if you're into that, you should do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was fun, It was fun doing the F one

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Speaker 1: the grid Iron podcast are give me an over rated choice?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I kind of was going to go

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Speaker 2: in the same line as this, because this kills me

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Speaker 2: the allure of a new offensive coordinator. This kind of

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Speaker 2: the Browns and Jim Schwartz last year. I think back

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: Now, they did throw the ball better than previous years,

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Speaker 2: very significantly, especially one who oversees the transformation like Dave

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Speaker 1: And do you get these vibes because he's a Michigan

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Speaker 1: take someone that wasn't successful with other coaches and you

435
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Speaker 1: make them successful. Blake Cashman got rich in Minnesota because

436
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Speaker 1: he was on Demico Ryan's team. Stingley was a much

437
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Speaker 1: better cornerback in his second year. He's on this top

438
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Speaker 1: ten cornerbacks list for ESPN because of that. Jonathan Gernard,

439
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Speaker 1: I think they're believing that Tomiko Ryans maybe made him

440
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 1: better than he really is. Desmond Kings, Stephen Nelson, all

441
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Speaker 1: that really just guys that I think Tomiico Ryan made

442
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Speaker 1: better than he is. One last thing, actually, I want

443
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Speaker 1: to point out on that cornerback list, Nick, I don't

444
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Speaker 1: know if you saw that the ESPN the executives rank

445
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Speaker 1: the top ten cornerbacks. They went through every position, and yes,

446
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Speaker 1: Stingley was number ten on that list, which I thought

447
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Speaker 1: was well earned for him and one of the guys

448
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Speaker 1: said that, soas Gardner, who ranked third on the list,

449
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Speaker 1: was the most overrated player in the NFL, and he

450
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Speaker 1: actually ranked behind your guy, Denzel Ward. I was a

451
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Speaker 1: little shocked by that. How is sos Gardner? To me

452
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Speaker 1: is not overrated.

453
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Speaker 3: This is one of my overrated choices. Is anonymous offseason rankings.

454
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Speaker 3: You're gonna slam somebody put your name on it.

455
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Speaker 1: Please.

456
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it's Sauce.

457
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Speaker 2: Gardner's a hell of a cornerback. And the numbers back

458
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Speaker 2: it up, the tape backs it up. There's it's indisputable.

459
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Speaker 1: Okay, he would have been one on my list. I

460
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Speaker 1: know Sirtanga won, but if I'm just betting on who

461
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Speaker 1: i'd want for this year, it's Gardner. And one of

462
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Speaker 1: the complaints is like, oh, he gets away with so

463
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Speaker 1: much holding. Yeah, that's a skill. That's what I want.

464
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Speaker 2: You know, who has that skill? Who doesn't have that

465
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Speaker 2: skill yet, who hasn't developed it yet? Joey Porter Junior

466
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 2: gets tagged for holding all the time. Saft Garter knows

467
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Speaker 2: how to get away with it.

468
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Speaker 1: That's the difference, right You know who had that in

469
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Speaker 1: spades was like Stefan Gillmore when he won defensive player there,

470
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Speaker 1: you know who had that, like Thrill Reevis, That's that's

471
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Speaker 1: what the greats have, So that was that was a

472
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Speaker 1: strange one. It just reminds me though, because I saw

473
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Speaker 1: I read this list before, you know, along with all

474
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Speaker 1: the other positions. I think it's I like it. It's

475
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Speaker 1: catnip for me to just look at what the league thinks.

476
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Speaker 1: But cornerback had the most variation. Like, cornerback is the

477
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Speaker 1: position where everyone's like, I don't know, like I don't

478
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Speaker 1: know who we're gonna count on year to year, like,

479
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Speaker 1: and some guys were just totally unranked and some guys

480
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Speaker 1: were three, whereas there's consensus at other positions. It is

481
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Speaker 1: the toughest position.

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Speaker 2: It's volatile though, Greg Like I mean, Ajterrell's listed as

483
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Speaker 2: an honorable mention. He was one of my best corners

484
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Speaker 2: two years ago according next to Gen's debt right and

485
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Speaker 2: I was a dog.

486
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Speaker 3: And then he had a down year the next year.

487
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Speaker 1: So I would still put him in the top five

488
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Speaker 1: or six, because you got you gotta look at the

489
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Speaker 1: long view. But cornerbacks are very up and down. You

490
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Speaker 1: are not up and down shooky. You're consistent as how

491
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Speaker 1: you're properly rated, maybe underrated. We're working on that. You're

492
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Speaker 1: going to join me at the end of the show

493
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Speaker 1: and we are going to get that EA College Football

494
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Speaker 1: preview in just three minutes from you. You can't go

495
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Speaker 1: over three minutes. You could go under if you want.

496
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Speaker 1: But first we're going to talk to Ian Rapaport about

497
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Speaker 1: those trades back up to this back on NFL Daily

498
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Speaker 1: and it is that time a week where we bringing

499
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Speaker 1: an insider, and you know Ian Rapaport, he's competitive, he's

500
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Speaker 1: not letting these other insiders get into this weekly segment.

501
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Speaker 1: It's the NFL National Insider. Yeah, yeah, you know Mike carefully,

502
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: we'll get to him a little later in the show.

503
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Speaker 1: Got some pop on Hard Not I don't know how

504
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Speaker 1: you feel about that. We got Pallisero. I saw him

505
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Speaker 1: out here this week. He's doing Rich Eisen Show. He's

506
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Speaker 1: doing all sorts of things. But you know, we go

507
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Speaker 1: to the best to start and that's you, Ian, And

508
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Speaker 1: I am curious for your thoughts about DeVante Adams's status

509
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Speaker 1: being such a talking point in this total quiet part

510
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Speaker 1: of the year and whether there's like anything to that,

511
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Speaker 1: and even if there's nothing to it before the season

512
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Speaker 1: that whether there could be something to it during the season.

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Speaker 5: You know, first of all, let me just say this.

514
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Speaker 5: I've done this a long time. I think this is

515
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Speaker 5: my thirteenth season, but I've counted properly with NFL Network,

516
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Speaker 5: and one thing I will never do is say something

517
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Speaker 5: is nothing right. Like I remember, we interviewed Dion Dawkins

518
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Speaker 5: on Insiders that will air tonight, and he's talking about

519
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Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs and it kind of brought me back to

520
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 5: when everyone told me two different organsations that Stefan Diggs

521
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Speaker 5: was definitely not getting traded. Minnesota and Buffalo got traded

522
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Speaker 5: both times. So I will never say never, not about

523
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Speaker 5: Devontae Adams, but with literally anything, anything as possible. It's

524
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Speaker 5: the NFL things happen. I think the reason why it's

525
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: being talked about now is because Aaron Rodgers said something

526
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Speaker 5: to a reporter about looking forward to playing with Devinta

527
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Speaker 5: Adams again or something like that, and then whoever's watch

528
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Speaker 5: receiver can see that last year there was some discomfort

529
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Speaker 5: and frustration between DeVante and Jimmy g and the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: I don't get the sense anything is going on right

531
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Speaker 5: now whatsoever at all with devint in the Raiders. He

532
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Speaker 5: is going to be there. He is going to be

533
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Speaker 5: a Raider. If somehow the season goes terribly and they

534
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Speaker 5: want to move on from him or they can get

535
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Speaker 5: something real from him, I'm sure teams will be calling.

536
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Speaker 5: I haven't gotten any indication at all that this is

537
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Speaker 5: something the Raiders would listen to. I haven't gotten any

538
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Speaker 5: indication that this is something that DeVonta Adams wants. But basically,

539
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Speaker 5: what happens in the NFL is someone starts something and

540
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Speaker 5: until it is literally dead. It exists in the world

541
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Speaker 5: where people will call teams, like media will start a

542
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Speaker 5: rumor and about a player maybe getting traded. A team

543
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: will then call the team that the players on and say, hey,

544
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Speaker 5: is this true, and then it's like WHOA, this team

545
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Speaker 5: received a trade call. It happens all the time. So

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Speaker 5: I think that's why it's kind of happening with DeVante

547
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Speaker 5: and it probably won't be dead until he retires a

548
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Speaker 5: member of the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I don't think that's going to happen. I mean,

550
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Speaker 1: he doesn't make sense on that team. If they're losing

551
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Speaker 1: games now, if they if they're winning, if they're competitive,

552
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Speaker 1: it's fine. But he's thirty two years old and he'll

553
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Speaker 1: be competitive. I think they will too. But thirty two

554
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Speaker 1: years old, the contract is at such a point that

555
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Speaker 1: they could trade him now and actually, you know, save

556
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Speaker 1: money someone you know Patrick. Throughout the idea on this show,

557
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Speaker 1: that sounded just crazy enough that it almost made sense,

558
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Speaker 1: Like what about Brandon Ayuk for DeVante Adams? Like who says, no,

559
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Speaker 1: come on, let's have some fun, let's get like the NBA,

560
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Speaker 1: and don't you just get jealous of all their fun stuff? No? No,

561
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Speaker 1: But do you think it at all? Do you think

562
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Speaker 1: you could happen? Because I actually do think that would

563
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Speaker 1: make sense for both sides, because the Raiders could you know,

564
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Speaker 1: they would get something back for him, and you know

565
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Speaker 1: they make DeVante happy and the forty nine ers are

566
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Speaker 1: in win now mode.

567
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Speaker 5: Yeah, except I don't know why though, I don't know

568
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Speaker 5: why either of those teams would do it, being totally honest,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess the Raiders would sort of make sense.

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Speaker 5: The hardest thing, first of all, those trades don't really

571
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Speaker 5: happen in the NFL.

572
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Speaker 3: They just don't.

573
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Speaker 5: Salary cap is too hard, finding the value is too hard,

574
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Speaker 5: Like we could workshop it, but like trying to figure

575
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Speaker 5: out what that actually is worth. You have a young,

576
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Speaker 5: in your prime star receiver like Brandon Ayuk who's very good,

577
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Speaker 5: not justin Jefferson, maybe not I'm in Ross Saint Brown,

578
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 5: but really super close, excellent, excellent, excellent player, young and

579
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Speaker 5: about to get a huge contract near thirty million dollars

580
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Speaker 5: whatever that ends up being at Adams, who is still

581
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Speaker 5: awesome but older with big money. Like, how do you

582
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Speaker 5: actually value that? It's too hard, and I think you're

583
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Speaker 5: the forty nine ers like, yes, getting a great player

584
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Speaker 5: back would make sense, but then like how long do

585
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 5: you have him for? And if you want a great receiver,

586
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Speaker 5: why don't you just have the great receiver that you

587
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Speaker 5: currently have and pay him what you would probably end

588
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Speaker 5: up paying Devont Adams anyway.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't keep making sense, But I'm with you. I

590
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Speaker 1: think I think in Adams trade would be more likely

591
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Speaker 1: in the season than an Ayuk trade at any time.

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Speaker 1: I don't really see the forty nine ers wanting to

593
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Speaker 1: trade Ayuk. We're getting close to camp.

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Speaker 5: There's not a lot of precedent for that. I'm sorry, right,

595
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: there's not a lot of precedent for great teams trading

596
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Speaker 5: great players when you can't, Like if the forty nine

597
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Speaker 5: ers trade Ayuk, which I do not think is gonna.

598
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Speaker 1: Hap would be one, but they won't be able, But

599
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Speaker 1: that would be one.

600
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Speaker 5: But like the Bills are in probably a little bit

601
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Speaker 5: of a different mode right now than the forty nine ers.

602
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Speaker 5: The only comp I could ever see is the Patriots

603
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Speaker 5: cutting their top defensive back right before the season. That

604
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Speaker 5: would be the only one I could ever think about,

605
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Speaker 5: But it almost never happens.

606
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Speaker 1: Do you think a Jordan Love contract happens before training camp,

607
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Speaker 1: during training camp, or before the season.

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Speaker 5: I think it's so tough to say. My guess is

609
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Speaker 5: probably yes. And this is based on not reporting, but

610
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: just my sense of things. Because he's a really good player.

611
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Speaker 5: He is only going like this, And from the people

612
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 5: I talked to around the league, the people who really

613
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 5: study and watch these things, like they feel who knows,

614
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 5: but they feel like he is on a rocket shit. Yes,

615
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 5: And generally, if you have a player like that, then

616
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 5: those guys get paid, if only because you're gonna pay

617
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Speaker 5: him eventually, pay him now rather than pay him like

618
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Speaker 5: sixty million or whatever it is, or sixty one million

619
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Speaker 5: next year. So that is my argument, like, I think

620
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Speaker 5: there was a while when people weren't sure what he

621
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Speaker 5: was going to be, even the packers. He looks like

622
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: he is going to be a really, really really good player.

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Speaker 1: I like it when you say that's not based on

624
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: your reporting, because you know, I can almost hear the

625
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: wheels turning. Ian has so much information and so much stuff,

626
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Speaker 1: and he can only allow like a certain amount out

627
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Speaker 1: and he has to like Pilfer and decipher what he

628
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Speaker 1: can actually say publicly. We're gonna get it out of you. Ian,

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Speaker 1: Why are you making that face these days?

630
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Speaker 5: Uh No, it's just so. The reason is because there's

631
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 5: so much aggregation these days that God forbid you say

632
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: something that's not like properly in one hundred percent source.

633
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 5: It's like report Jordan Love extension will get done, which

634
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 5: is like, not what I said. But no one listens

635
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 5: to anyone anyway.

636
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Speaker 1: So anyway, I've got my eye on this Tyreek Hill

637
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: situation before we let you go. Just that he clearly

638
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: wants the new contract. He's he's got a couple of years.

639
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: A new contract for him would be so much and

640
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Dolphins are going to prioritize

641
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Speaker 1: that so it actually could be a situation where the

642
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: two sides aren't very happy with each other. What do

643
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Speaker 1: you get a sense of with Tyreek Hill?

644
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think they know that he wants

645
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 5: some sort of adjustment. You know, historically, there's a way

646
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 5: to do this without killing yourself, right. I mean, I

647
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 5: think the Raiders did probably a really smart deal with

648
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: Max Crosby. I think it was six million more they

649
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Speaker 5: gave him. Didn't affect next year, just this year. Made

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Speaker 5: a really good team leader, good guy happy.

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Speaker 1: And they just gave him more money. That almost never happens.

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Speaker 1: That's shocking when teams do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it, you know, but the way they did it

654
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Speaker 5: happens where you take money from the back end of

655
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Speaker 5: because I believe this is the way to take money

656
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Speaker 5: for the back end of the contract. Move it up

657
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 5: like that happens. So I think the Marshawn Lynch example

658
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: is probably the most famous one when we all thought

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Speaker 5: they were going to have a divorce and they just

660
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Speaker 5: end up giving him more money. I think there are

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Speaker 5: ways to do it for Tyreek Kill. But to me,

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Speaker 5: it does feel like the priority is the quarterback. Now

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Speaker 5: that's not done, and you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 5: it will get done. And again like there's some optimism,

665
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Speaker 5: but nothing's done until it's done. But that's my sens

666
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Speaker 5: is the quarterback is probably more of a priority. And

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Speaker 5: then for Tyreek, I mean he's he's thirty, but he's

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Speaker 5: still great and he's got a lot of years left.

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Speaker 5: Like there are ways to do that without killing yours.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And just just wonder, not that I'm rooting for

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Speaker 1: things to go to go poorly. I want that team

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Speaker 1: to do well, but they got a lot to manage.

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Speaker 5: Aren't you always rooting for chaos?

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Speaker 1: I mean yes, in general, which is why I'm going

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Speaker 1: to introduce this next sound clip of a deal that

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Speaker 1: did get done. Ian you often are a part of

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Speaker 1: these Hard Knocks episodes because they show the NFL network reports,

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Speaker 1: and look they got they got an NFL network up

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Speaker 1: all day. It's all Judy Batista, it's all Mike Careful,

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Speaker 1: it's all Ian rapport. So let's actually listen in to

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Speaker 1: a part of Hard Knocks where the Giants were watching

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Speaker 1: our network report, the Brian Burns trade.

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Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers move on Giants, Land of Pass Rusher, Burns

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Speaker 5: gets paid, all the things happen at the exact same time.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: You think this was stressful for Giants general manager Joe Shane.

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Speaker 3: Was stressful for this guy.

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Speaker 1: You gotta chill out, now, you got to relax.

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Speaker 3: He was so on a all day long. We were

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Speaker 3: talking about this.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching or you have a chance to watch

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Speaker 1: that clip on YouTube or on HBO Max, just the

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Speaker 1: look of love from Joe Shane's face endearing to Mike Garafolo.

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Speaker 1: Just are you jealous as an insider that he got

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Speaker 1: that big of a reaction from Joe Shane.

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Speaker 5: No, because Mike is talking about me, and you can't

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Speaker 5: really tell on the show. They kind of make it

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Speaker 5: seem like he's talking about Joe. Mike's talking about me.

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Speaker 5: Because that day I probably had a good feeling, let's

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Speaker 5: just say, good feeling that the Burns trade was done,

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Speaker 5: probably more than two hours from when I was able

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Speaker 5: to report it firmly, officially agreed to my all sides

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Speaker 5: and done, and like you know, it was great to

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Speaker 5: break it. I'm very happy that it worked out that way.

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Speaker 5: I'm very happy that Hard Knock showed that clip. It

706
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Speaker 5: was so miserable, it was so miserable and the amount

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Speaker 5: of things that had to happen for that deal to

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Speaker 5: get done and then for me to break it. It

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Speaker 5: was one of the most stressful things. I mean, it

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Speaker 5: was like a nine month saga, honestly, and I was

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Speaker 5: tracking every bit of it, and you know, you want

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Speaker 5: to win, you want to break the story. But the

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Speaker 5: two hours where I was pretty sure was getting done

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Speaker 5: but couldn't get it one hundred percent confirmed that it

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Speaker 5: was actually done. We're definitely some of the most painful

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Speaker 5: I've had as a reporter. And then to get it

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00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: was great. But that's what Mike's talking about this club,

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Speaker 5: which I think Joe appreciates how absolutely awful it was

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Speaker 5: to wait and make sure that it was done, so

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Speaker 5: that's kind.

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Speaker 1: Of why he's just the look of affection to me

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Speaker 1: was was something, But like, why do you put yourself

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Speaker 1: through that? Ian? I think in our roles we all

724
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: have some sort of emptiness inside of us that we're

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Speaker 1: trying to fill, But like, why why put yourself through that?

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Speaker 1: For what.

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Speaker 5: I like to deliver the people that follow very closely

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Speaker 5: the news as soon as human I possible, I'll look

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00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: it in and I like to tell people what I

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Speaker 5: know as soon as I can, and when I don't

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Speaker 5: get to do that, it really eats at me. I'm

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Speaker 5: really just a man of the people, and I want

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Speaker 5: to give them what they want, which is trades and

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Speaker 5: contracts and news.

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Speaker 1: It just seems extremely stressful way to live that You're

736
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: you're never off the clock, but that's stress. That's between

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Speaker 1: you and you know, your therapist if you have one,

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Speaker 1: or you and your wife. And you seem like you

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00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: guys are doing great. You're doing great. You're you got

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Speaker 1: back to back appearances here on NFL Daily. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know what we might have to go to Garafolo

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Speaker 1: next week, because you know, he seems like the insider.

743
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you would resent the most if he got this

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Speaker 1: coveted spot next time around.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Mike got a lot of buzz this week

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Speaker 5: from breaking news on the golf course, so he deserves shining.

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Speaker 1: There we go, Thank you Ian again. Yeah, we're gonna

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00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: have an insider on every week. Appreciate the insight. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap up the show just after this break with

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Speaker 1: Nick Chuk talking a little e a college football.

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Speaker 4: It was my first year I'm bringing a TV, so

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Speaker 4: I haven't brought a TV ever before, but INTUBLEA came.

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Speaker 1: Out and I'm gonna have to turn it on.

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Speaker 4: So I brought a TV for inch DOUBLEA in the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: So that's my first year doing that.

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Speaker 1: That was Patrick Mahomes, of course, talking about EA Sports

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Speaker 1: College Football twenty five. If you're on the internet this week,

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Speaker 1: or if you played a video game at any point

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Speaker 1: in the last fifteen years, this is not news to you.

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Speaker 1: This is, you know, maybe the biggest sports gamer news.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And how long shooky you are a

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Speaker 1: burgeoning gamer.

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Speaker 2: The biggest sports video game release ever. Wow, if not

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00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: ever a close second. No game has gone dormant on

765
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: hiatus for a decade that was so beloved and then

766
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: suddenly came back with eleven years more of technology and

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00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: authenticity and attention to detail and you know TLC that.

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Speaker 3: It needed like this, this is ever happened before.

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Speaker 2: I was in EA in Orlando at EA and in

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Speaker 2: May in late May. In late May, we're playing this

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Speaker 2: game and I could not drop the controller. I didn't

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Speaker 2: want to move for four hours. So now you fast

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Speaker 2: forward to here, we're getting tens of hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 2: of people, millions of people who are so desperate to

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00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: play this game. They've been playing a game at eleven

776
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: years old for the last ten years with mods and everything.

777
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Now they get a new one. It's like Christmas for

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Speaker 2: these people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're one of those people. I know you've

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Speaker 1: already won that championship we showed. I'm very proud of

781
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: the two lane Green Wave. But before I throw it

782
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: to you, and I like that, you're sneaking in some

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00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: extra takes before we even get to your three minute review,

784
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: so you're really tacking on. I do want to just

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Speaker 1: show the listeners who are watching on YouTube, but also

786
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: for the audio audience obviously, just a taste of what

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Speaker 1: Nick Schuk has been doing on his twitch stream, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is a major gamer. So this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna listen to Nick Shook when he scores a

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Speaker 1: touchdown playing EA college football.

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Speaker 2: All right, first reads are one second read square, third

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: readers pray.

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00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: They'll try to pass it in on third and goal.

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: Get in there, Tommy, Get in there, Tommy, let's go

795
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: the first time. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, now Nick in his tank top is pumping

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Speaker 1: his fist to lights on. I mean, how much is

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Speaker 1: the production, buzzet budget. Here. The lights are flashing. That

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Speaker 1: is amazing. I want to play that they're on right now.

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Speaker 1: I want to play the every time where you're on

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Speaker 1: the show. That is amazing.

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00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can catch that at Twitch dot tv slash

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00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: the Nick Shook, you can find it there. We are

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00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: doing a Kent State rebuild. That was the first game

805
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: we were playing. Pitt one star program. Kent State one

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00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: of the worst in the Kingdom the nation, my alma

807
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: mater who I saw nearly go to the Orange Bowl

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00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: when I was in college. We fallen and we were

809
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: never really up that high to begin with. But we

810
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: are going to turn them around. Arting right now with

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Speaker 2: my rebuild of Kent State over on Twitch.

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Speaker 3: Part of my enjoyment of the game.

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00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: I love it. I love the blinking lights, I love

814
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: the tanked up. If you're going to put in all

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00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: that work, like, really, what's the point? On some level,

816
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: that's what I think, But that's the point. You got

817
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: to show it off. You got to show those guns

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00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: in the biggest of spots. All right, you have a

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Speaker 1: three minutes to make your pitch talk about EA college football,

820
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: and we are going to start right now and kick

821
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: over three minutes's hooky?

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Speaker 2: All right, well, hopefully I have a time at Greg.

823
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something real quick. What's your favorite

824
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: part about a sports narrative? Is it the destination or.

825
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: Is it the journey?

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Speaker 1: It's the journey.

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00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: It's the journey, and.

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00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: The journey is what this game is all about. People

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00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: love college football for the journey, the story of a

830
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: program being built, and you are in full control of that.

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Speaker 2: With college football twenty five is dynasty mode, where you

832
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: can choose any school. You could start as a coordinator.

833
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: You can get a job somewhere else if you don't

834
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: like your school. I just won with Tulane, Florida wanted

835
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: to hire me, I take the job. Hell no, because

836
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 2: I'm down for the Green Wave and Greg Rosenthal's ama mater.

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00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: We're winning multiple national titles. Games got worse in the

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00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: off season.

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00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: And why should you play this game? Because you can

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00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: have the same experience or your own experience. You could

841
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: take your skills on the grid iron two online and

842
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: play through you know, ranked matchups in college football.

843
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: With some of the best.

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Speaker 2: You want to play Alabama Texas in their first SEC matchup.

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00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: You got it, and you got everything else and attention

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00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: to authenticity. Years in the years, literally five years of

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00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: work building this game from the ground up. And for

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00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: those of you who say it's a Madden reeskin, you're wrong.

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00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: I've played both, including the new one. They're different games

850
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: in this game is enjoyable as all hell.

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00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: It's play the new Madden.

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00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah I have.

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00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: I've played tested it.

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00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: Breaking news any different, any different?

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Speaker 3: It is different.

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00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: There are some improvements, but College Football twenty five might

857
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: be the best football game I've ever played.

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00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 3: In fact, I will go so far as the saying

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00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: is wow, get yours now.

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00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: Wow. I didn't expect this to just be a full

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00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: throated cell job of EA college football, but hey, that's

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: part of being a reviewer. When you recognize greatness, you

863
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta bump it up, you gotta.

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a there's a few things you gotta fix.

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Speaker 2: The computer defense runs too much press coverage right now,

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Speaker 2: and if you have a fast receiver, it's it's easy pickings.

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Speaker 2: There's an issue with running into the kicker that pops

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Speaker 2: up occasionally for people. I know it has not really

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Speaker 2: happened for me, but my god, the experience, Greg, It's

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Speaker 2: just it's like they took the last game, and they

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Speaker 2: it with the proper love and care that everybody expected.

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Speaker 3: And it's a blast.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I've ever I've everaged four hours of sleep this week.

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Speaker 1: Greg, Okay, the only complaint I've heard is like the

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Speaker 1: defensive backs, their hands are way too good for for

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Speaker 1: D one athletes or for any defensive backs. Like you

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Speaker 1: should not be intercepting the ball that much that easily. Ah,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. I do know.

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Speaker 2: It's like that's on you for throwing bad passes. By

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Speaker 2: the way, that's an internet criticism passing the blame.

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Speaker 1: It's such a big deal, and uh, I'm excited. My

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Speaker 1: son's been begging me for it. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm I'm in on like getting him two games

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Speaker 1: a year now, so I've held off for now with

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Speaker 1: the college football, but he loves building it. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you've you've sold me pretty well, Nick Shook, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's been our after dinner min today. Just a little

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Speaker 1: something extra with Nick Shook and the video game world.

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Speaker 1: It's been a fun second week of NFL Daily. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate everyone who has been listening every day and

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Speaker 1: checking us out on YouTube and giving us feedback and

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Speaker 1: looks it's been great and it's only going to get better.

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Speaker 1: Training camp is off and running. By the time we

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Speaker 1: come back on Monday, Shook, we might even have some news,

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Speaker 1: some like training camp flow of like practice so much.

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Speaker 1: It's all happening, and we'll have it covered every day

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Speaker 1: on NFL Daily until next week. And yeah, that Monday

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Speaker 1: show is going to be fun. We've got Jordan Roudrieg

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Speaker 1: in the mix. We've got Patrick Claybun on the mix.

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Speaker 1: We love Nick Shook back next week as well. Until then,

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time.