1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Chuck here. If you're wondering why you have 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: suddenly ten new episodes in your feed, this is because 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: we thought we might group things together and try a 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: little playlist here for the summer and see how it went. 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: And in this case, we're covering some of our movies 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: or movies in general. And I am setting up our 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: semi recent episode from Oh, I guess it's not that recent. 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: It's from April twenty eleven on exploitation films and how 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: they work. It was a really fun one to do. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: And if you love cinema and you love movies, and 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: if you love exploitation movies especially, you're gonna love this episode. 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: So please enjoy. Welcome to Stuff you should know from 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: HowStuffWorks dot com. 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: Hang on there, fella, Oh yes, I know what we're doing. 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead, get us going here. 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Well, Chuck, the other night you may have noticed. I 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: know you did, because I watched you watch this just 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: kind of creepy but not really. You and I were 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: on TV, Yeah, on the Science Channel. 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did the little shorts and we're actually proud 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: of how these turned out, which is a rarity for 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: us when there's a camera. 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: It is, so we have more shorts coming up on 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Science Channel. They're running Saturdays and Sundays until I think 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: the first week of May or something, right. 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and now that they're all running between ten and 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: ten thirty now supposedly during the shows I think on Saturdays, 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: this is Oddities, which is an awesome and weird show 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: it is, and then Sundays, which is Firefly, which is 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: everyone loves Firefly. 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I actually consider it an honor to 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: be played during Firefly. Yeah, me too, even though the 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: cast of Firefly has no idea that this is going 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: on because it's pre recorded. 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Exactly, Josh, So this what'sa day Thursday obviously, yeah, Saturday 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: and Sunday night this weekend. Yeah, on the Science Channel. 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: That is the Science Channel, it's part of the Discovery 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Networks between ten and ten already, set your little DVR 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: and then look, they run during the commercial breaks, or. 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: If you're not so fancy that you have a DVR, 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: you can actually watch it as it happens. 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: That's right. 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We just take like ten minutes 61 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: onto this episode. 62 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: I know. We appreciate your support. Who mine, No, oh, 63 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: everyone that wants to watch these okay. 64 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so are you ready? Okay, hey, and welcome to 65 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: This is Stuff you should know the podcast and kind 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: of a special edition. Frankly, I am a little excited, Chuck, 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm a little giddy. 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: Shut your mouth. 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: That's yeah, okay, sure, all right, this is this is 71 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: our first ever movie centric podcast, right. 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Movie centric for sure. Yeah, we've mentioned movies of course 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: all the time, but this one is like, this. 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: Is all about movies. So this is by popular request 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: to an extent. People want to see, like, they want 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: to hear us talk about movies and just do a 77 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: movie podcast. So we decided to focus on exploitation films. Right. 78 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: This is also probably the first podcast that we're going 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: to say, if you are a teacher of children in 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: eighth grade or younger, and you're using this as a 81 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: teaching tool, you might want to go to the one 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: before this or the one after. We don't generally try 83 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: to alienate audiences. We're not attempting to now. It's just 84 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: a natural byproduct of the exploitation film. 85 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Can't talk about exploitation films without talking about some lurid 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: subject matter. 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't say exploitation without ploit. 88 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't exploiting, just people being nice, right, niceploitation. 89 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: So, Chuck, I went and saw a movie the other 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: day called I Saw the Devil. It's a Korean movie. 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: It's by the guy who did the Tale of Two Sisters. 92 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: I think Oh, he said more violent than Old Boy. 93 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy old Boy is one of the main characters. 94 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: And I've seen old Boy. I've seen what's the other 95 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: one he did, the vampire movie, Yeah, Thirst, So I 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: think it's pretty good. It was okay, this one is 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: it's the most violent thing I've ever seen in my life. 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: It's the most graphically violent movie I've ever seen in 99 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: my life. The only the only reason, like I was 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: able to complete is because I'm like, this is it's 101 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: a movie, I know, but I walked out of it 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: like it's so over the top, it's so gory. It's 103 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: clearly an exploitation film. 104 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is is, like, really, if you 106 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: start to look around, John Hughes, films technically are exploitation films. 107 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club is technically an exploitation film. 108 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a big wave of teen exploitation films, and 109 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: we'll get to that, but yeah, you're right. 110 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: So one of the broader definitions of exploitation films is 111 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: basically anything that's really like over the top, that is 112 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: beyond reality, or that maybe focuses on people's fears, their 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: sexuality and basically just kind of serves it up in 114 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: a larger than life manner. That's one way of looking 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: at exploitation films. 116 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're basically they're exploiting some of the seedier aspects 117 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: of humanity most times. 118 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: Sure, like murder or sex, like weird sex, that kind 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: of thing, sexed. 120 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Sex, teenagers rebelling against parents. 121 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: Sure, like a weird science. Have you ever been to 122 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: a party where a couch shot out of the chimney 123 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: and into the pond? I mean, it's a pretty nice party. 124 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever really happened, you know. So 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: that's the vast definition of exploitation. But you and I 126 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: are kind of qualified to teach a cinema class at 127 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: like maybe a low level community college at this point 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: after the amount of research we've done in this sure, 129 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: and we found that academically there's a there's a much 130 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: more distinct definition for exploitation, and it's seemingly interchangeable term grindhouse. 131 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, what's the Is there a definition definition? 132 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 2: It's more like a timeframe. Okay, So from like nineteen 133 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: nineteen when they really first started making movies to I 134 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: think nineteen sixty nineteen fifty nine when the Hayes Act 135 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: went away, that was exploitation, and then after that it 136 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: became Grindhouse. Okay, gotcha, it's my understanding. Okay, so let's 137 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: do this all right. 138 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's the old joke. Was that in the awesome 139 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: documentary American Grindhouse, which documents this this era of filmmaking. Yeah, 140 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the old joke, one of the guys says, is that 141 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: exploitation films began five minutes after the camera was invented, 142 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: the motion picture camera. 143 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: Because the guy was like the directors like to his girlfriend, hey, 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: would you mind taking your clothes off or the camera exactly? 145 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: So it says something about the human condition that you 146 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: invent the film camera, and the first moving images were 147 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: often lurid Edison's film. It showed clips of like decapitations 148 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: and violence and guys fighting, yeah, and knit naked women 149 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: as film tests. So it's just that says a lot 150 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: about people, like, all right, now we know how to 151 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: capture things, so let's capture sex and violence right first. 152 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: Right, And although that really kind of jibed with public tastes, 153 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: or at least public fascination, it didn't jibe with the 154 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: prevailing standards. They agreed upon standards, right. 155 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: Right, I think he said nineteen nineteen. But the first 156 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: exploitation film was nineteen thirteen. Oh, okay, Trafficking Souls or 157 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: While New York Sleeps, right, and that, like you said, 158 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: exploitation often plays into fears. That played into the fear 159 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: at the time of the white slave trade. Budget of 160 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: fifty seven grand and gross four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, 161 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: which nineteen thirteen. It's a lot of dough. 162 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: That is a ton of though, And. 163 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: That was Universal Pictures and they went, hey, going on 164 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: to something here. 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: Right after that was released the Hayes Code. Will Hayes 166 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: was the Postmaster General and Presbyterian elder and he was 167 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: making one hundred grand a year during the depression. 168 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Unbelievable, right. 169 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: He basically said, like, look, we need we need to 170 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: apply some moral standards to filmmaking. There's decapitation, there's naked breast, 171 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: there's white slavery, Like we need to pure this up, right. 172 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Well, actually, there wasn't nudity yet like those early test films. 173 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: There were, but nudity. We'll get to that later, okay, 174 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: But yes, that's what Hayes tried to do. And like 175 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: prohibition didn't exactly quell drinking, the Hayes Code actually sort 176 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: of gave rise to the exploitation movement. 177 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like just like prohibition, just like marijuana prohibition, 178 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: just like well any drug prohibition. Anytime you say you 179 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: can't do this, you can't have something that you want, 180 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: the somebody else is going to operate in a black market. 181 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: A black market's going to bring up simple economics. Yeah, 182 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened, and that's where exploitation cinema 183 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: came up. It's like, you can't get this from Hollywood 184 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: because Hollywood has to play by the rules. But my 185 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: production studio is my model t and let's go make 186 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: this movie. Give me some money. I'm going to film 187 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: a child being born close up and put it in 188 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: the movies. 189 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Yes, you can do that. You can make your movies 190 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: all day long, but if they're never exhibited, then what 191 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: good are you doing or not? Like they were trying 192 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: to do some good, but you're not making any scratch. 193 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: So the forty thieves they talk about in the documentary 194 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: were these filmmakers and exhibitors basically that traveled around like carnies, 195 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: setting up these sort of gorilla film screenings and some 196 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: places sort of out of the way where they can't 197 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: get caught. And that was for the first time, you know, 198 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: they were taking films outside of the main stream. 199 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: Different. Sometimes they weren't even theaters. They would show them 201 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: like VFW halls if you want to go see Birth 202 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: of a Baby films. Apparently they were popular. 203 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a whole genre, early genre of exploitation. 204 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: Well, and so was early on a lot of the 205 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: film centered around like how to wear a condom in 206 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: these sex hygiene films. 207 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there was no information about that out there, 208 00:10:53,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: and so exploitation filmmakers, whether disingenuously or genuinely, were ending 209 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: their stuff like this is a public service. People need 210 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: to know this, right and making movies about it. But 211 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: also and people were going on that excuse as well, 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: like well, I need to know about this, But at 213 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: the same time, it's like I want to see this 214 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: the craziest thing I'll ever see in my life exactly, 215 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: you know, on screen. 216 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: Or they argued a lot of times that they were 217 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: cautionary tales. If they were about drugs or violence, they 218 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: would say, hey, this could happen to you. Yeah, so 219 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: you should educate yourself. But what they really want to 220 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: do is get. 221 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: Their movie scene and make some money exactly. 222 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: Paramount decision of nineteen forty eight. This is pretty big. 223 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: This Supreme Court voted that movie studios could no longer 224 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: own their own movie theaters. At the time, you know, 225 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: there would be like the Paramount Theater in Hollywood from 226 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: the Paramount Film production Company. They would show their movies. 227 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court said no more, and all of a sudden, 228 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: exploitation films became a little bit more legit because the 229 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: Hayes Code kind of fell apart. Yeah, and this is 230 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: post World War two, so. 231 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: People had seen a lot of death recently, well a lot. 232 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: Of death, and then they thought ladies in suggestive roles 233 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: were good for morale. And there was a little bit 234 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: of loosening on the sex thing a little bit post 235 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: World War two. 236 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: Enough that led to another subgenre of exploitation film, the 237 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: nwdest colony film, which were pawned off as documentaries. A 238 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 2: lot well most of these were pawned off as document documentaries, 239 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: which legitimized them, but really it was maybe it actually 240 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: was film that a news camp. Probably not. Mostly there 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: were actors and actresses just engaged in archery naked or 242 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: long walks naked. 243 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: There could be no sex. 244 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: Still that was still no taboo, but it was just 245 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: like naked pretty people right at a newdist colony, which 246 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: is interesting because you're not a nudist, so come learn 247 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: about them exactly. Yeah. 248 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: After that, through the history we had things like the 249 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: teen like you said, the teen Rebellion of the fifties 250 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: with the rebel thought of Cause and Blackboard Jungle and 251 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: movies like that all of a sudden were targeted specifically 252 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: at teens, which was new, and then drive in theaters 253 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: were built so teenagers could see movies where their parents 254 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: weren't going to be. Apparently the adults didn't go to 255 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: drive ins a lot at first. Oh yeah, it's all kids. 256 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 257 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: So they showed exploitation films and then later the beach films, 258 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: which were marketed as it's silly, it's Frankie avalon, but 259 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: they were decidedly weird and overtly sexual sometimes. 260 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: And then chuck, if you'll notice, we're kind of progressing 261 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: along in this chronological order, and each thing is kind 262 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: of being built on the last. 263 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: It was very much a step process, right. 264 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: And apparently that was kind of the form that exploitation 265 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: filmmaking followed until nineteen sixty it was just it was 266 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: centered around drugs, violence, sex, and in a lot of 267 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: ways they were presented as documentaries. They might not have 268 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: a plot, and basically it was one person would make 269 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: some film and it would just break all the rules, 270 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: and then a bunch of other people would make similar films, 271 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: right and the same. That was the way it went. 272 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: And then in the nineteen sixties things just started to 273 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: go every which way, all sorts of directions. Right, So 274 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: nudity nudy films were a long standing thread of exploitation 275 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: films and then they probably reached their pinnacle with Russ Myers, right, 276 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: King of the Nudies is what he's called. 277 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the first guy to He's significant because 278 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: he was the first director to have films featuring nudity 279 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: that actually were dramatic narratives and had plots and characters, 280 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: and they weren't classified as documentaries anymore. And then the 281 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Roughies came along and they offered up violence for the 282 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: not first time, but big time for the first time. Right, 283 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: And that has a lot to do with the fact 284 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: that there was the sixties and Kennedy was shot and 285 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: the United States was just becoming increasingly violent. 286 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: America lost its innocence. Yeah, and the other thing that 287 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: really happened in the nineteen sixties was the Hayes Coote 288 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: officially won away, was replaced by the MPAA and the 289 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: I guess the long standing prohibition on Hollywood producing exploitation 290 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: films was it was lessened decreased, and so studios were like, oh, 291 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: we can make money over here too, Well, let's start 292 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: making exploitation films right, And this is where grindhouse was born. 293 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: So my cinema professor definition of grindhouse is big budget, 294 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: studio backed exploitation films. Okay, okay, yeah, that's that's mine. 295 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I like it. 296 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a quiz question later. 297 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go with that. Actually, back up one second. 298 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: We got to mention Herschel Gordon Lewis. He was a 299 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: director who had a Codre. I can't remember the other 300 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: guys named you. Anyway, he was a co director and 301 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: he was one of these exploitation guys that was getting 302 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: frustrated because there weren't a lot of places to show 303 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: your movie. So it was a pretty crowded marketplace. So 304 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: he said, what's the one taboo that like people will 305 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: pay to see that you're allowed to show in theaters, 306 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: but that studios won't make. And it was Gore. Oh yeah, 307 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: he was the first guy to start showing really disgusting 308 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: bloody scenes in his movie uh, blood Feast, Blood Feast, Yeah, 309 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: which actually was three years after Psycho, and Psycho also 310 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: did a lot for the mainstream ushering in of sure, 311 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of Gore in that, but well there's 312 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: like a. 313 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: Shot of blood following Janet Lee's murder, you know, which 314 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: is I imagine it's pretty graphic for Hollywood, and that's what 315 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: you think of You're like, oh, those stupid sixties, but 316 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: that's you know, there were so naive like that was controversial, 317 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: not really though, Like if you stepped just slightly outside 318 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: of Hollywood, you ran into things like Blood Feast, right, 319 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: or you know Last House on the Left. Yes, well 320 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: that's nineteen seventy two, I think. 321 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Wes Craven. So that was important because all of 322 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: a sudden, a drugs started, well three things. Political themes 323 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: started popping up, right, sexual freedom, the youth generation. Drugs 324 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: started popping up in movies for the first time, drug use, 325 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: well not for the first time, we'll talk about reefer madness. Yeah, 326 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: but teenagers were depicted as victims of violence for the 327 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: first time, like Last House on the Left I believe 328 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: is kind of regarded as the first teen slasher film. 329 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wes Craven, it was almost a snuff film. It 330 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: was almost regarded like that. 331 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty hardcore. 332 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, it definitely blood Feasts definitely allowed Last House 333 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: on the Left to come around, but it also probably 334 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: more directly formed the foundation for slasher exploitation like Friday 335 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: the Thirteenth or Nightmare on Elm Street. Absolutely, My Bloody 336 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: Valentine's another big one. Crazy great, yeah, crazy. Oh yeah, 337 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: that was an original, right, there's a remake now. 338 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, yeah, remakes. So that brings us We're 339 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: in the seventies, politically charged movies brought race into the 340 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: to the mix, and all of a sudden, we had 341 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: black exploitation or black exploitation movement starting exploiting the civil 342 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: rights movement basically. But the cool thing about black exploitation 343 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: films is for the first time you had African Americans 344 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: as heroes. 345 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and not heroes in a typical sense, not even 346 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: anti heroes, but heroes that were like They didn't ride 347 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: into town on a white horse or wearing a white hat. 348 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: They very clearly wore black hats. If need be, like 349 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: they would engage in crime, they would murder people, if 350 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: nimbi they were. They were basically like the face of 351 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: black America coming out of the Civil Rights are like, 352 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: we're ticked off. 353 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and we're gonna stick it to the 354 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: white man to get to the man, and we're gonna 355 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: do it in these movies. 356 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Chuck, I know the movie you're about to mention. Let's 357 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: this is it. 358 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: You keep the faith in me, You my man, You're 359 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: my favorite man. 360 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Can so Yes. That was a landmark film for a 361 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: lot of reasons. One because it grows four million bucks 362 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: and it made the major studio say, hey, you know 363 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: what the black hero is marketable? 364 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you haven't said the title yet. 365 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know. 366 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you gotta say it right too. 367 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: Melvin Van Peebles film Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song. 368 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: Nice, That was well done. That was nineteen seventy one. 369 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: Men Van Peebles, whose last name may sound familiar. He's 370 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: the father of Mario van Peebles. For your younger cats 371 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: listening to this one. 372 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: Cats all right, age actually younger cats because he's kind 373 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: of like, okay, so cats A, yeah, that's Mario Van 374 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Peebles's dad, you know, New Jack City. Yeah, exactly. 375 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: So Melvin Van Peebles made this movie. He produced it, 376 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: he raised the money for it, he wrote it, he 377 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: directed it, he starred in it. And it was the 378 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: beginning of the blaxploitation subgenre, which is one of the 379 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: most important genres of any American cinema absolutely ever, absolutely, 380 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: and so considering how important that subgenre is, this quote 381 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: from Time Magazine's film critic Richard Corliss should really hit home. 382 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: Sweet Sweet Back is quote, without question or competition, the 383 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: most influential movie by a black filmmaker. So this is 384 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: a really big deal, right, yeah. 385 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: And it was. It was just quickly on the plot. 386 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: It was about a black man who was a jiggielow. 387 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: Who, which is a male prostitute for you younger cats. 388 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: And he had a deal worked out with the cops 389 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: where he was he said, you know, you can arrest 390 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: me as much as you want, release me right after 391 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: fill your quota. It's all good. And then one day, 392 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: while the arrest is going down, the cops attack a 393 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: black panther, and Sweet Sweet Back kills one of the 394 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: cops and then just says he just goes on a 395 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: rampage against the white man after that. 396 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 4: Yep. 397 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: So you've got prostitution, tons and tons of nudity and sex, 398 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: lots of violence, and other crimes all wrapped up into 399 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: a black power theme. 400 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: That's right. 401 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: And then to top it all off, you have what 402 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: is arguably a child sex scene starring Mario van People's 403 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: melvivv People's son at I think age six, having sex 404 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 2: as Sweet Sweetback. It's his first sexual encounter with an 405 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: older person. And in the cult podcast, if he became 406 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: a cult leader, he would have taken a younger bride. Remember, 407 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. So if you're interested in that 408 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: movie and you can't get enough of Sweet sweetbacks bad 409 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: Ass song, you could also check out bad Ass exclamation Point, 410 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: which is Mario van Peebles's biopic about his father making 411 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: that movie. That's right. 412 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: And I have not seen that, but I wanted to 413 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: at the time, and it just sort of subp at 414 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: the cracks. 415 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: There's always Netflix, baby, that's right. 416 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: And what happened with Sweet Sweetback was that, like I said, 417 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: that told the studios, hey, that we can market this, 418 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: and so they got a little more mainstream with movies 419 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: like Superfly, which were a little safer shaft shaft movies 420 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: at wide audiences would enjoy as well. 421 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the ones that didn't scare the man exactly like 422 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Scheft's a good guy. He doesn't take any guff from 423 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: the man, but the people he's not taking guff from, 424 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: or the cops, who he's really on the same side. 425 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: Ass that's right. So chuck exploitation obviously huge. It affected 426 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: everything from you know, Menace to Society to Black Ela. 427 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: All of that came from Sweet Sweet Back. And we 428 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: mentioned the guy who directed this next movie, Russ Myers. 429 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: This is pro probably a seminole work. Let's listen to 430 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: this clip from the trailer. 431 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: You walk, Ladies and gentlemen, Gold Gold for a wild, 432 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: wild ride with the Watusi cats. But beware, the sweetest 433 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: kittens have the sharpest claw. By your own safety. 434 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 5: See faster pussy. 435 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: Cats kill, kill, wild women, wild wheels. Race the fastest 436 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: pussy cats and they'll be Jill to sober woman Fulton, 437 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: wild and cooked. 438 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 5: You're placing yourself on this kid, then hanging itself for 439 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 5: nothing by. 440 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: Nothing, got nothing to do with the money. 441 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: Jis the money. 442 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Jack and Jill. They make a mafia look like Brownie. 443 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: They make the mafia look like Brownie. 444 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: That's right. That says quite a bit about them. So 445 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: this that was faster pussy Cat Kill Kill in nineteen 446 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: sixty five Russ Meers basically women exploitation film NUDI film. 447 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: Remember Russ Meyers was King of the nudies. He made 448 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: twenty six movies. But this is probably at the very 449 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: least is his best known, if not like his masterpiece. 450 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hatched a slew of I mean not 451 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: that he wasn't legit, he was, but what mainstream people 452 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: would call legit filmmakers were came up through the russ 453 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Meyer film camp basically. Yeah, so it's pretty cool. 454 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and russ Meyer also a little known fact. Another 455 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: movie that's mentioned in this article. There's an article on 456 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: the site, by the way, called ten Noteworthy exploitation Films 457 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: that this is based on, Yeah, written by you, Yeah, 458 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: which I showly recommend going to read because it has 459 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: a lot of extra stuff we're not going to cover 460 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: in this one, Yeah, or at least extra movies. But 461 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: russ Meyer directed a movie called Beyond the Valley of 462 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: the Dolls two right, which was the bastard son of 463 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: the legitimate film that Beyond Valley of Dolls is a 464 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: jiggle fest written by none other than Roger Ebert's right, yeah, 465 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: the movie Roger Ebert ever wrote, Yeah, he had a Yeah, 466 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: it was a very brief career. But that's it. That's 467 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: an illustrious one. Really. 468 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you're going to talk about the plot, 469 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: a faster pussy cat kill kill, And I say that 470 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: because there's three exclamation. 471 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: Points and a comma exclamation point kill. 472 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: Is it three exclamation points? 473 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 474 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: Okay, I thought it was a common then too. All right, 475 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: either way, that's a lot of punctuation for a film title, right, 476 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: And it was about three bisexual go go dancers. They 477 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: go on a crime spree out in the desert, and 478 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: what do they do? They end up killing a man 479 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: and or no, they kill the man and a couple 480 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: keep the girl. 481 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: They basically empower herme on with it by murdering her boyfriend, 482 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: and she ends up on the crime spree with them. 483 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: And they basically end up going to an isolated house 484 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: with a wheelchair bound old man and his son's. 485 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: Who's a lech? They're all leches, these women. 486 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't know that these women are tough, 487 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: no tough ladies. 488 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: And the men and his son. The man and his 489 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: sons apparently or allegedly have a large amount of cash 490 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: stashed in this house. So it's kind of like a 491 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: standoff of gall to see who will come out on top. 492 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: Well, and you know who comes out on top. Yeah, 493 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: And this film was noteworthy for one big reason was 494 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of dualism towards gender. So on 495 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: one hand, he's exploiting these women and apparently got women 496 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: in their first trimester of pregnancy, so they were more voluptuous. 497 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, not in this film, but in his other folks 498 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: he would hire. I can't remember the lady's name, but 499 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: the star of Festor pussy Cat Kill Kill was in 500 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: other Russ Meyers films, gotcha, and he made sure that 501 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: she was like well into her third first trimester to 502 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: enhance her natural bustiness. 503 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, her bosom if you will. But the script, 504 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: like I said, it was dualism because while he did that, 505 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: it also empowered women because the women in his films 506 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: bowed to no man. No, they were the champs. They 507 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: were they were heroines really for the first time. 508 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: They were objectified very clearly. But at the same time, 509 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: if you follow the script and really look at their characters, 510 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: then yeah, they're powerful women. 511 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: And this kind of kicked off a big slew of 512 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: women exploitation films, exploitation films, the women in prison. 513 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: Movies, yes, which we lads sisters very. 514 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Big at the time. Women were lead actors for the 515 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: first time, they were aggressors for the first time, still 516 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: nude often while they were doing this stuff. 517 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: Spawned the television show The Facts of Life. 518 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is they found that these movies 519 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: appealed to men and women because men would go see 520 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: it for obvious reasons. Women would go see it because 521 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: it was empowering and they didn't mind, you know, looking 522 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: at the naked ladies because women are much more grown up, 523 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: sure than men are. Yeah, but josh, the seventies also 524 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: got a little schlocky, which in a sense was true 525 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: to the exploitation model, Like they really went over the top. 526 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: No more political statements, no more advancing of women's gender 527 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: or African marins Americans. It just got really shlocky and 528 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: outrageous at that point. 529 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: Well, what happened starting in the sixth really took hold 530 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: in the seventies, and then from that point on was 531 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: exploitation cinema, early on showing a live birth, nudest camps. 532 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: These are all geared toward adults in the sixties, and 533 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: then later on big time in the seventies, the audience 534 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: became almost exclusively teenagers, like those driving teenagers or well 535 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: teenagers anywhere, who cares, but the audience was teenagers, and 536 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: the cast started to become teenagers, so it had a 537 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: little more of a bent on what teenagers were having 538 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: to deal with, like bullying, like the kid in this 539 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 2: next clip right, which is I have to say, one 540 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: of my favorite movies from way way back. 541 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: Here we go with Toxic Avenger. 542 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, meet little Melvin. He's a ninety pound weekly. Everyone 543 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 5: hated Melvin. Yeah, I'm gonna take this mop and shove 544 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: it down your throat, me teased him. 545 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: I want to do it with you, podkay. 546 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: They taunted him. They tormented him until he had a 547 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 5: horrifying accident and fell into a bat of nuclear waste, 548 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 5: transforming little Melting into a hideously deformed creature of superhuman 549 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: size and strength. The movement became the Toxic Avenger. 550 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: So Josh. The Toxic Avenger movie was unique in that 551 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: its film production company, Trauma, is very popular in their 552 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: own right. 553 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen surf Nazis Must Die? 554 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: I haven't, but I know about you Trauma. I mean, 555 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: they are master self promoters and marketeers. 556 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: They were one of the first production companies to have 557 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: a website, like a really comprehensive website. You should go 558 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: on their website, their whole catalog. It's really just well done. 559 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: It's schlocky, but it's well done, right. 560 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: And Toxic Avenger follows a story of a ninety eight 561 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: pound weekling who was picked on released the same year's Ghostbusters. 562 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Do you notice that nineteen eighty four? 563 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 4: Right? 564 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it occurred at zero year. 565 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: It's the year zero. Yeah, we'll just put the null 566 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: set represent that. And this kid gets pushed out of 567 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: a window into a vat of toxic sludge. 568 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: Which that's beyond bullying. 569 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I mean, this is basically it's a more 570 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: twisted version of modern problems. The Chevy Chase film from 571 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: a couple of years earlier. 572 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't seen that one. 573 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Oh you never saw a modern problem. No, it's very silly, 574 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: but he got toxic sledge dumped on him and had 575 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: special powers. 576 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: From years earlier, prior after. 577 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: What Win was the movie? Yeah, it was two years 578 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: before Toxic Avenger, But Toxic Avenger took it into a 579 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: gore special effects way that modern Problems never did. 580 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: So the janitor Melvin I believe his name is, becomes toxified, 581 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: it becomes toxic, the tox Avenger who beats the tar 582 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: out of people at the health club where he was 583 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: abused and mutated and has tons of sex as the 584 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: Toxic Avenger because his newfound manhood is just irresistible to women. 585 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: And one of the things that's noteworthy about the Toxic 586 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: Avenger is that they actually tried to make decent effects. Yeah, 587 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't just it wasn't horrible. I guess you could say. 588 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: Well for the time, you know, it wasn't bad. 589 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: No, there, they remained bad, and they probably were kind 590 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: of bad even back then. But for for for Grindhouse films, 591 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: yeah they were, they were great, right, And uh, it's 592 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: also noteworthy because it came out of Trauma Productions or 593 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: Trouma Studios, and it led to a whole line of 594 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: Toxic Avenger movies and schlock in general, which is basically 595 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: like some crazy, horrible thing has happened, but we're not 596 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: going to dwell too much on that. Let's see what 597 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: let's let's see where the action takes us exactly. So 598 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: like Bad Taste, Peter Jackson's first film Right is a 599 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: great example of schlock that came out of Toxic Avenger. 600 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: And he had the film that followed, Peter Jackson Dead Alive, 601 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: which was at one point supposedly the gorrist film ever made. Really, 602 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: although it sounds like your new Korean movie has surpassed that, Yeah, 603 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: I think it probably has. 604 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that Alive's seen Bad Taste and Bad 605 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: Taste it was horribly gory, but I think this has 606 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: it beat. 607 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I bet you if anything. I mean, I 608 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen the one you're talking about. But is it 609 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: more realistic gore? 610 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, with bad it's like these are aliens that are 611 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: having their heads blown off. So it definitely takes you 612 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: at least a degree away from caring this is happening 613 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: to human beings. In I saw The Devil, so it 614 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: definitely is driven home a little more well. 615 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: And the violence that even the gore back then, it 616 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: was so over the top, right out of Fangor magazine. 617 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, dude, Fangory is still around, is it? Yeah? 618 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: I figured it was. 619 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad it is. We follow it on our Twitter feed. 620 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Oh we do. Yep, like a head'll explode in scanners 621 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: and you know, it's not disturbing because it's so clearly 622 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: over the top. But these new movies are much more disturbing. 623 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: If you ask me, I agree wholeheartedly because they're more realistic. Yeah. So, 624 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: carrying on with Chucks and my Cisco and eber Act. 625 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: This is the second to last movie in our little 626 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: list today, and this one's from way back from the thirties. 627 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: So let's talk about reefer madness. 628 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: These high school boys and girls are having a hop 629 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: at the local soda fountain. Innocently they dance, innocent of 630 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 4: a new and deadly menace lurking behind closed doors. Matrijuana 631 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 4: the Burning Weed when it's roots in Hell or watchcase 632 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: if you want to be you will meet Bill, who 633 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 4: wants to pride and his strong will as he takes 634 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: the first step toward and slave undre. 635 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: So that was the excellent reafer Madness, which was an 636 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: exploitation drug exploitation film and very much a cautionary tale. 637 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: It even shaped the drug culture and how people looked 638 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: at drugs. Is you know marijuana at the time, Is 639 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: this really evil thing that can make you crazy and 640 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: kill people? 641 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? And actually, in very much the vein of early 642 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: exploitation films, it was produced and distributed as a public service, 643 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: like the alternate title for it was Tell Your Children, 644 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: And the whole thing set in a pta meeting where 645 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: this guy is relating the story, and it's a story 646 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: about lost lives, about murder, about guilt and paranoia, and 647 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: all of it is fed and based on rampant drug use, 648 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: which is really just a lot of pot smoking which 649 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: can turn you into a fiend. And it's apparently the 650 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: director his name is Dwayne Esper. He did other exploitation 651 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: films from the thirties like Sex Madness, Psychotic Connections, and 652 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: he made a name for himself basically taking these things 653 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: that may have originally been written as a public service 654 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: and making them so outlandish that he exploited the people 655 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: who were making these movies and created this legacy of 656 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 2: like just insanely over the top exploitation films from the thirties. 657 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: Well, and ironically, Reefer Madness years later, would become not 658 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: so much an anti drug propaganda film how should I 659 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: say this, but a film that college students would sit 660 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: around and watch while partaking and laughing at this whole thing. Yeah, 661 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: and a cult film. 662 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it puts drugs so far out there that 663 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: if you, despite all the warnings, take drugs anyway and 664 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: you realize that you don't turn into a fiend and 665 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: murder somebody, you uh, refer Madness basically dares you to 666 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: go further. So it's kind of an it's the opposite. 667 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: It has the opposite effect of what I think its 668 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: original intent was before Duanne Osberg got its hands on it. 669 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 2: And as a side note, I had trouble deciding between 670 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Reefer Madness and another nineteen thirties film by a guy 671 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 2: named Todd Browning called Freaks. 672 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that was that was huge because it 673 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: was the first big exploitation film pre Hayes Code and. 674 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: Last, Yeah and last, and it was it was an 675 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: MGM film. Yeah, and it's widely considered a masterpiece. 676 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it looks great. It's it's not it 677 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: was well done. 678 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: It's a huge it's a it's a revenge movie, which 679 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: is a very common theme in exploitation films. Yeah, especially 680 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: violent ones. But it's it featured Browning dared to have 681 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: real freaks. I guess if you're yes, circus side show freaks, 682 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: yeah star in this. Uh, and they basically exact their 683 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: revenge on people who've misstreat them. And I have not 684 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: seen it really Yeah, yeah, I want to. I hear 685 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: it's just awesome. I can't wait. 686 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: It ended his career though, unfortunately. Yeah, and he was 687 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: a popular filmmaker at the time. 688 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, hats off to him for staying true to his art. 689 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: Chuck just took his hat off. 690 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: Don the old cap. 691 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: All right, Chuck, here's the last one that we've got 692 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: a clip for which I think everybody will notice or 693 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: recognize without even a word. There's not even a word 694 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 2: in this clip, and you will understand what's going on. 695 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 2: So here we go. 696 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: So, Josh, those are the unmistakable sounds of fist of 697 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: fury of mister one, mister Bruce. 698 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: Lee, Bruce Lee kicking bottom. This first movie, Yeah, which 699 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: was originally titled, well, it's still title I think in 700 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: Asia The Big Boss, and in America it is it's 701 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: titled Fists of Fury. 702 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was on the other night. Okay, Well I 703 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: saw part of it. Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't realize 704 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: it was his first one, though I would have tuned in. 705 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was first of what five five major films, right, 706 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: And basically it's the story of a martial arts student 707 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 2: who's investigating the murder of his teacher, and it began 708 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: the martial arts exploitation sub genre, which. 709 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Later would become just martial arts films. Right or was 710 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: it still considered exploitation. 711 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: It's all the same, Okay, they're one and the same. 712 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: Anything that even remotely resembles a Bruce Lee movie, specifically 713 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: The Big Boss or any of them, is martial arts 714 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: exploitation technically, because again we arrive at that one definition. 715 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: It's over the top. Bruce Lee's taking on scores of 716 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: anonymous thugs for two hours, one after the other, for 717 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 2: two hours, just beating the tar out of all these 718 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: people without tiring. Really, everybody's kind of waiting their turn 719 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: politely in a circle around him, and he has to 720 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: beat everybody right, and then he works his way up 721 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: and it's over the top. So it is exploitation. But 722 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 2: it led to other films like Samurai exploitation. Remember American Ninja. 723 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 2: Remember the whole ninja film thing that came out in 724 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: the mid eighties. Uh uh, that's from Bruce Lee's that's 725 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 2: Bruce Lee's doing well. 726 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go to these at the time when 727 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: I was first going to New York many years ago, 728 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: that would be you know, you got a Times Square 729 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: and this is still when Time Square was kind of gross, 730 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: and that would be just the martial Arts movie store 731 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: where it was all that stuff, mane, like thousands of 732 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: movies about ninja's and samuraiz and martial artists and very big. Yeah. 733 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: I was inspired by American Ninja to become a ninja. 734 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 2: Remember I entered a ninja training with Tommy Roper, who 735 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: had like more throwing stars than any kid I've ever known. 736 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: What did you have? Like one throwing star? 737 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: I borrowed his. Okay, I was not allowed to have 738 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: throwing stars on my own. 739 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: Oh I wasn't either, Yeah, Baptist, No, No, that was 740 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: very violent. 741 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 2: No numb chuck, not even thought that transcends like religious background. 742 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: It's like, you're a good parent, you shouldn't let your 743 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: kid have a throwing star. 744 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: It's a good point. And as you point in the article, 745 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: this actually led to another subgenre, which was Bruce Lee 746 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: lookalike movies. Yeah. 747 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: So he made five movies and then died at age 748 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 2: thirty two. Yeah, and nineteen seventy three. So Big Boss 749 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: released in nineteen seventy one, he dies two years later. 750 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 2: Everybody's like, no, so let's find some guys that look 751 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 2: like him, which is really kind of stereotypical and racist 752 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: for the West. But Bruce Leeve l I or le 753 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: ee or l E or just l E. Well, Bruce 754 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: l I or Bruce el E. I don't think there 755 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 2: was ever like Bruce l e I. 756 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: G H. 757 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't think it ever got that far. But I 758 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: mean they released dozens of Bruce Lee and I just 759 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 2: made air quote films. 760 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 761 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: So Bruce Lee created the martial arts exploitation genre and subgenre, 762 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: and he inadvertently created the Bruce Lee exploitation subgenre of 763 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: the martial arts exploitation subgenre. 764 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: By dying young, Yeah and being very popular. Yeah, And 765 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: which one was the one he had Kareem Mental Jabbarian 766 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: Enter the Dragon. Yeah. Yeah, if you've never seen a 767 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: like seven foot plus guy to martial arts, you should 768 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: check that out. 769 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 2: And if you can't get enough Bruce Lee and you 770 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: have a good sense of humor, check out Kentucky Fried 771 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: movie made by one Jerry's Rucker, who we met in 772 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 2: Los Angeles recently and who used an exploitive to me. 773 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 2: He did it was one of the high points of 774 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 2: my life, it is. But yeah, Kentucky Fry movie awesome. 775 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: Actually, when we met Jerry Zucker, we told him that 776 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: our little speech we were given that night was one 777 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: of the highlights of our career thus far. And he says, well, 778 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't say much about your career, does it? Like 779 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: the first thing to do does? 780 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? Something funny and we just like kind of fawned 781 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: over the man. 782 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: We should mention briefly and it's in the article, but 783 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: just as a teaser. The late seventies we got Nazi 784 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: exploitation movies, Nazi exploitation as a subgenre, yeah, And one 785 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: of the major players there movie wise was Ilsa she 786 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: Wolf of the SS. 787 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, which led to Ilsa Siberian Tigris and Ilsa harm 788 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: keeper of the oil sheeks. Really, there's a whole sex 789 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: violence franchise, Dominatrix franchise, that was based out of the 790 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 2: Nazi exploitation film. 791 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, one could argue that qt mister Tarantino has 792 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: made nothing but exploitation films. Yeah, since pulp fiction, because 793 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: the kill bills were definitely martial arts exploitation. The Jackie 794 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: Brown was a riff on black exploitation. Sure, death Proof 795 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: obviously that was what they were trying to do there. 796 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 2: Death Proof is Carsploitation, which follows in the tradition of 797 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: Vanishing Point, which was released the same year, is basically 798 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 2: it's rival to the the founder, the founding movie of carsploitation, 799 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: Two Lane Black Top, right, which movie. Yeah, if you 800 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: want to start an argument with an exploitation film, buff 801 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 2: tell him Vanishing Point was the beginning of carsploitation. They'll 802 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: get mad at you. 803 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: And then finally Tarantina with The Inglorious Bastards, which is 804 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: clearly a riff on the Nazi exploitation films. 805 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 806 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: Beaten nazis the Death of the Baseball Bat. 807 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, about as over the top and lurt as it's awesome. Yeah. So, 808 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 2: and then Machete. I hated it. But Robert Rodriguez it's terrible. 809 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: And of course he was the other half of the 810 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: Rodriguez was the other half with his Planet Terra of 811 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: the Grindhouse double feature. 812 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and. 813 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: Machete was born from one of the little fake trailers 814 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: they made in that movie. 815 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: Oh is that right? 816 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of the fake movie previews. 817 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: It is even as far as like a purposefully B 818 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: movie not good. No, well, Death Proof was okay, but 819 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: I didn't like Planetear that much. Yeah, and then Chuck. Well, 820 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: first of all, before we get to today, we also 821 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,959 Speaker 2: have to give a shout out to Porno's Porno came 822 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 2: out of the exploitation film genre. 823 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: And it arguably had a lot to do with killing 824 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: the X or pushing it into the mainstream, because once 825 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: you had the movie Deep Throat and all of a sudden, 826 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: pornography was on the screen, it's like, you can't do 827 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: an exploitation film about it anymore. If there's the real 828 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: deal going on, it loses all its power. And then 829 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: a little movie called Jaws came along, and all of 830 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, a quote unquote B movie style movie made 831 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: gobs and gobs of money, and that put a little 832 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: bit of mainstream respectability on the map all of a sudden, 833 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: And so one might argue, Josh that movies like Jaws 834 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: and Pornography kind of shoved exploitation films even though they 835 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: still exist. They're sort of mainstream movies now. 836 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I guess another word for grindhouse these 837 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: days is blockbuster. Jaws was the first blockbuster movie, summer blockbuster, 838 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: and now you have to have summer blockbusters, and they're 839 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: always over the top and exploitive of viewers tastes. 840 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: And not only Tarantino, those other filmmakers out that are 841 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: trying to capture that seventies vibe with overt exploitation films again, 842 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: shot that way, shot on thirty five or I'm sorry, yeah, 843 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: sixteen millimeter film, stuff like that. 844 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Chuck, I say, our message to everybody is 845 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 2: number one, go on to the site, read ten noteworthy 846 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: exploitation films. Number two if that interests you. Like, even 847 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: the ten noteworthy exploitation films they chose don't cover even 848 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: I think a third of the exploitation subgenres. So there'll 849 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 2: probably be another article forthcoming at some point if there is. 850 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 2: We'll let you know and then go watch some exploitation 851 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 2: movies and enjoy them. 852 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, watch the documentary American Grindhouse too, if you're into that. 853 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great one. It's free on Hulu. Actually 854 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: there's ads, but Hulu dot com has American Grindhouse for free. 855 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 2: It is not safe for work now, in no way, 856 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: shape or form. I was watching it at work and 857 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: I was like, WHOA, Okay, really, yeah, if you are 858 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 2: watching it at work, tab browsing is what you want 859 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 2: to be doing, right, and keep your your finger over 860 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: the mouse and keep the cursor over the other tab 861 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 2: right and stay sharp. 862 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: Or in our case, you can just say it's research. 863 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: But you can't do that. If you're an accountant in 864 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: JP Morgan. 865 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 2: You're just a cicico, a weirdo, that weird guy in accounting. 866 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 2: So look up ten noteworthy exploitation films. You can type 867 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 2: that into the handy search bar at HowStuffWorks dot com. 868 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: And now, at long last, it's time for listener mail. 869 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: Joshua's I'm gonna call this It's a small world after all. 870 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 1: Dear guys, I'm a longtime fan from Minnesota and enjoy 871 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: spreading stuff you should know goodness wherever I go. My 872 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: co workers at a local coffee shop know me for 873 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: the trivia and information I abound in. But if forget 874 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: tell you what that he says he abounds in, I 875 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: guess he's proficient in. Okay, did he misuse that? Yeah? 876 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. It sounds hilarious. 877 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: It does after giving credit where credit is due, which 878 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: means us several of them decided to subscribe your podcast. 879 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: Listening to the podcast has also given me an advantage 880 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: at work for thinking of the coffee shop's daily trivia question, 881 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: which saves people ten cents on their drink if I 882 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: know it. After relstening to how legos work, I set 883 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: the trivia question for which company produces the most tires 884 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 1: on a yearly basis? Abridge stone be goodyear see Lego Bricks. 885 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: You know the answer, John. Most people were surprised and 886 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: pleased to find out it was Lego Bricks, reminding me 887 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: of about the little playsets that their kids enjoy. This 888 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: is where it gets weird. One of the customers read 889 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: the trivia question, looked at me and said, it's a 890 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: Puonsi scheme. 891 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,959 Speaker 2: Nice, that's awesome. 892 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: And the best Italian accent he could muster. Everyone else 893 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: gave him an odd look. I started laughing. He apologized 894 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: and then say and said he just heard it on 895 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: a podcast. He had just listened to Legos follow up 896 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: by Ponzi Schemes. 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