1 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Good morning peeps, and happy fuck it Friday. It is Friday, 2 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: April seventeen. Make sure that you are subscribed to tell 3 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: your friends to subscribe to PM mood wherever they get 4 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: their podcast, because you will receive woke f Daily every 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: single day that we have a show free for the 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: next three weeks. It is my stay safe as fuck 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: quarantine special, so get into it and share, Share, Share, 8 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: share Share. We have just received notice here from my 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: bunker in law on Long Island that lockdown is extended 10 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: for another month, April fifteenth now being the new date. 11 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: But enough about that. So excited to welcome back to 12 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: woke f Daily. One of my favorite culture commentators advocates 13 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: just all around Twitter. Bad ass April Rain, April. How 14 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: are you doing, my friend? I've been following you as 15 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: I always do during our quarantine time. How are you doing? 16 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Thank you for asking. Everybody in my 17 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: immediate family is healthy. I have a son in college 18 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: and a daughter in high school. They're both home and 19 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 1: yesterday I think what or no, Tuesday was the first 20 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: day that my daughter had had any type of education, 21 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: because lord knows, I wasn't doing anything. Oh damn oh damn. Oh, 22 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, other than helping her learn which channel Netflix 23 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: was on? Okay, fair, Yeah, you know. Tuesday was her 24 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: first day back, and it was almost like the first 25 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: day of cool, except she you know, in the fall, 26 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: except that she didn't have the fun of seeing her 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: friends after a long while, you know, but complaining about 28 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: having to get up early, and oh my god, there's 29 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: homework on the first day and all the rest of 30 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. So all of this has been a new normal. 31 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: But overall we're doing just trying so far. Let me 32 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: ask you about your daughter. She's in she's in high school. Um, 33 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: what is she at the computer like for seven hours 34 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: a day like you would be in school? Like, how 35 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: how is her distance learning looking? Yeah, it's been interesting. 36 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: It's not seven hours a day, but she is at 37 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: the computer, um for probably about four or five hours 38 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: a wow. And yeah, teachers determine what time they start, 39 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: so of course there was a lot of grumbling about 40 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: starting at eight am as opposed to a forty five 41 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: whereas before she used to be out of the house 42 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: at six thirty. I was gonna say, like she already 43 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: still sleeping in exactly. But still, you know, this is 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the new normal for her. UM, And so she spent 45 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: several hours a day on computer. And then my understanding 46 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: is some of her classes, Um, the teachers do request 47 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: that the students turn on their cameras and okay, okay, 48 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: she had a cute little poof of hair on the 49 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: top of the other day. Okay, something's different, um, you know. 50 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: And and then she she will have homework that she 51 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: needs to turn in by the end of the week. 52 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: But it sounds like, Um, typically you know, it was 53 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: homework every night and needs to be turned in the 54 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: next day. But but those restrictions have been relaxed somewhat. 55 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: And what year is your son and in college? Sure, 56 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: my daughter is a junior in high school. My son 57 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: is a junior in college. Always said, Okay, I was 58 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: hopeful that this year wasn't his graduation because I was. 59 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: I feel I feel so deeply for these young folks 60 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: in high school and college and this was their big 61 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: year for graduation. Yes, Um, it's it's it honestly is 62 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: breaking my heart, um for them. And speaking of speaking 63 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: of things, I wanted to know your thoughts. Have you 64 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: seen did you see trending yesterday? Obama twenty twenty commencement. 65 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I did. Um, you know, we gotta stop asking that 66 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: man to see I'm sorry, but you know he cannot 67 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: be black Santa Claus all the time. Eight very strong years, 68 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, and you know he wasn't perfect, and we 69 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: can definitely have that conversation. But let him move on 70 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: and do other things. I don't recall, you know, from 71 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight to twenty sixteen, any requests like 72 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: that when you know it would have made more sense, 73 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: I guess because he was the actual president. He could 74 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, he had done it from the Oval office, 75 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But you know, Obama come back 76 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: and please save us and please be Joe's vice president, 77 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: and you know, and you know, due to the commencement address, 78 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: it's a lot. Let that man go on and executive 79 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: produce his movies and you know, on the catamar Rans 80 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: out in the middle of whatever and live his best 81 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: like you know. It was funny because I saw it 82 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: and I couldn't understand why I was training, Okay, so 83 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I click on it and then I'm just like, oh 84 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: my god, I could really use a commencement speech. So 85 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: I was the opposite of you know, and I was like, 86 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I could really use some uplift. I'm like, can Oprah 87 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: organize something where she just has calls in all her 88 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: big time, very inspirational, you know, thoughtful, spiritual, super soul 89 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: Sunday and do like a super soul Sunday type of 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: commencement for these young folks. I thought that was you. 91 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: You were asking a black woman to perform labor. You 92 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: gotta we got we gotta be big picture about that. 93 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: But I know Oprah is involved. I believe in the 94 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: upcoming concert, right and yeah, yeah, and you know, and 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: I and I absolutely understand the semi sentiment. You know, 96 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: when President Obama endorsed Joe Biden earlier this week, I 97 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: watched it through misty eyes, and I I'm going to 98 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: add it to like my video playlist, like I didn't 99 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Thriller back in the Yeah, I watch it again and 100 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: again because there's something about a person who is articulate 101 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: and thoughtful and calm and empathetic. Yeah, all of all 102 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: of those things that we have not had, you know, 103 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: since January of twenty seventeen. So I absolutely get it. 104 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think we need to go 105 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: back and sort of watch his old speeches and you're 106 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: head of asking him to do um more stuff. You know, 107 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: go back to what was a two thousand and four 108 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: maybe at the DNC that I think that was the 109 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: first time that I yeah, oh wow, he goes and yeah, 110 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: he literally stopped me in my tracks. And so maybe 111 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: we need to have a watch party for that. Yeah, 112 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: I mean we did one for we we rewatched Homecoming, 113 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: uh for Beyonce. We could definitely do that and it 114 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: would be just as inspirational. What are you, um? You know, everyone, 115 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: I continue to see the memes and I and I 116 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: post them. You know, when people keep saying you do 117 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: not have to be productive during this time, you do 118 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: not have to you know, come up with your your 119 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: next best seller or your great invention or your big idea. 120 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Just being able to exist in this moment is enough. 121 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: And if you're going to you know, if if if 122 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: watching Netflix and you have the ability to do that, 123 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: like keeps your mind at ease, then do that. What 124 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: do you think about the pressure um that content creators 125 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: uh and creatives are feeling in this moment? Because I 126 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: see a lot of those memes trying to remind people 127 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: that they that this feeling that they have, Like if 128 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: you're not feeling creative. If you're if you're not feeling 129 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: passionate right now, it's okay. I think we need to 130 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: extend everyone a whole bunch of grace in ways that 131 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: we have never before. You know, content creators, um and 132 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: creatives on a regular day, you know, six months ago 133 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: may not be feeling particularly inspired. And so now when 134 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: you pile on, you know, maybe a family member is ill, 135 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're concerned about their rents. You know, 136 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: maybe you know they haven't had a job in weeks. 137 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, because there have been a lot of folks, 138 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: me included, you know, consultants and freelancers who have just 139 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: watched opportunities that were scheduled and confirmed, you know, just 140 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: wither into the ether. And so I think right now 141 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: we need to just be in a place of hanging 142 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: on and doing the best that we possibly can, whatever 143 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: that means. And I think that changes from day to day. 144 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, yesterday I had I spoke for two hours straight. 145 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: I did a podcast and several other things, and it 146 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: was just me talking. And at the end, I was like, oh, like, 147 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: I haven't exercised those muscles in quite some time to 148 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: that extent, you know, And so it's it's okay to 149 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: find balance, you know, whatever that means for you. And 150 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: so if it is just hanging out on the couch 151 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: and netslip for a day and then going back and 152 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe setting small goals for yourself, you know, right, 153 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: five hundred words or something that's not a huge article, 154 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, or something that you can post on medium 155 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: or maybe do you know, a two minute video and 156 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: maybe you're not even sharing it, just you know, to 157 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: keep those muscles growing, yeah, and moving so they don't atrophy. 158 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: I think that's the best that we can ask of 159 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: anyone at this point. Yeah, I think that it's the 160 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: same um, you know, because everyone keeps saying things like, oh, 161 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: we have all of this time, you know, there's all 162 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: this time. Use your time wisely, come out of here, 163 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: come out of you know, the lockdown with a new 164 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: skill and a new this and a new that. And 165 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, we're in the midst of 166 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: a global pandemic. Can I can? I can? I can? 167 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: My biggest achievement today being that I had a hold 168 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: of my anxiety right that I did some deep breathing 169 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: and didn't like have a freak out. Um, you know, 170 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: going to the mail to go get a piece of 171 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: mail with latex gloves on, like you know, like I do. 172 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: I think that I like what you're saying in of 173 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: the extension of grace. I think that we all need 174 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: to have that quiet conversation with ourselves on a daily 175 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: basis about So maybe the thing is that we all 176 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: come out of here with better ways to practice unapologetic 177 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: and consistent self care because there have been so many 178 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: of us, may include it, who talk a good game, 179 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, or you know, who know that they need 180 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: to do better but just didn't have the opportunity to 181 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: do that. Well, now that we're home, yes, we all 182 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: have anxiety and depression and you know, and all kinds 183 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: of things that are affecting our mental health. But how 184 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: are we addressing those things so that we do have 185 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: better practices when we go back. You know, they say 186 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: that a habit takes three weeks to really instill in you. 187 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: So if you are practicing thirty minutes of deep breathing 188 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: or meditation or yoga and whatever that is, maybe that's 189 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: the goal that you know that we all can come 190 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: out of because you know it can be free. You know, 191 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: we can do whatever time of day that we want 192 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: to and it's going to be better for us in 193 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: the long run. I love it. I love it. I 194 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: think that if there is anything to come out of this, 195 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: I hope that we have a deep sense of gratitude 196 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: for all of the things that we've taken for granted, 197 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and also have a deep connection to self care, because 198 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: I think that it's incredibly important, especially now. I mean, please, 199 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: I've been trying to practice self care since Trump became 200 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: president so that I don't go gray, get wrinkles, and 201 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: lose my friggin mind on a daily basis. Speaking of which, 202 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: do you watch Trump's press conferences or do you stay 203 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: away from them? You know, I am a master kiss 204 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: on a day by so I you know, I don't 205 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: watch every day because I don't like to intentionally bring 206 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: negativity into my home. And that's truly what it is. 207 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: I didn't watch the other day after President Obama's endorsement 208 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden. I watched that day because I figured, 209 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, he really right, right, it's going to be 210 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: more entertainment than anything else, and he did not disappoint um. 211 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: But typically, you know, I don't watch. I get my 212 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: news about the press conferences, UM primarily from Niche, you know, 213 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: and she covers it, you know, just about line by line. 214 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: It definitely gives me the highlights, so I don't need 215 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: to tune in to him. Um. I also, you know, 216 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: I've been watching the conversation about whether the press conferences 217 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: should actually be carried live because there's so much misinformation 218 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: and disinformation. And I am all for you know, the 219 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: media stepping up and saying we're not doing this, you know, 220 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: we will. How about we don't cover, but we give 221 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: you the highlights after the fact and after they have 222 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: been fact checked. And I understand, you know, the ratings 223 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: um are important for the networks, and so they probably 224 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,479 Speaker 1: won't do that. But I think at least um MSNBC 225 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: and CNN are doing a slightly better job of at 226 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: least cutting away and sort of fact checking in real 227 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: time and then maybe going back for the question and 228 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: answer period, which has been more interesting to me. I mean, 229 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: I have said for quite some time the media is 230 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: fully responsible for us having Trump in the first place, 231 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: and the fact that they haven't learned anything over the 232 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: past three and a half years to me is stunning, 233 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: and in a moment where where truth right can save 234 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: your life. Right, truth and fact and transparency. These are 235 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: these are the things attributes that we need at this 236 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: very moment to keep us safe, and that they know 237 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: that this is the last person to get those those 238 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: attributes from. But you're going to continue to provide him 239 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: with free air time for an hour plus for his ramblings. 240 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Uh is malpractice to me. UM, and I continue to 241 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: tweet on a regular basis that they need to stop. UM. 242 00:13:53,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: CNN just started recently actually putting up genuine chrons saying 243 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: that the President is yelling, the President is arguing, the 244 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: President is losing his temper, the President misspoke, and you know, 245 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: like and finally doing those things. But I also part 246 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: of me is like too little, too late, exactly right, 247 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: and that makes me really troubled. What are you watching? 248 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: What is your what's your what would be your quarantine? Uh? 249 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Listical for people who are like God, I need to 250 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: I need some escapism. I need to get out of 251 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: this current moment and dive into something else. What's um, 252 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: what's given you some joy on the screens and streaming 253 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: these days? Yeah? Thank goodness for you know, the streaming 254 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: services that we have, you know, and I don't necessarily 255 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: have a favorite between Netflix and Hululu and Disney Plus. 256 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: I have all of them because you're like, I have 257 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: all of them, you know what. I think they were 258 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: on sale, Like I think Hulu for like a dollar 259 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: ninety nine. I'm loving That's like, Okay, you know, for 260 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: the for the year, I can do that. We'll have 261 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: to reevaluate in December or something. And I think that 262 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: my internet folks gave me Disney Plus for free for 263 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: the year, So I'm not sure that you know, if 264 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: you talk to me in twenty twenty one, I'll still 265 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: have the same run of channels. But um, you know, 266 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: I have gotten into recently killing Eve Yes, so I'm 267 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: getting caught up on that. But it's really interesting and 268 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I love Sandro. Yeah, and so that has been fun. 269 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: Um Godfather of Harlem on Epics, which is a channel 270 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: that a lot of folks don't have, which is unfortunate 271 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: because it was a really great show. But sometimes Epics 272 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: hays like a free weekend and you can binge on that. Okay, 273 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one. Yeah, Godfather of Harlem is great. 274 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: It had um Forest Whittaker and Junior and a lot 275 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: of big names fantastic acting, and it just suffered from 276 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: the channel on which it was on. UM. And you know, 277 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: and Netflix is always good for documentary. So if you 278 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen the documentary on Tony Morrison and Miles Davis, UM, 279 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: and let's see who else. There's just so many UM 280 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: that are really and really good. Quincy Jones, you know, 281 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: and that one was directed by his daughter Rashida documentaries 282 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: that you can learn more. You know, I thought I 283 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: knew a whole bunch about Quincy Jones, and yet I 284 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, my mouth was hanging agape as I watched 285 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: through UM. You know, but I think that anything that 286 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: provides you a sense of escapism, UM is great, whatever 287 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: that is, you know, wherever you can go and just 288 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: turn your mind off and get fully into whatever show 289 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: you're watching. UM is what we need right now, you know. 290 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: And it's it's truly the It shows the importance of entertainment. 291 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, art imitates life initates ARTUM. But you know, 292 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: especially now, and you know, even before the pandemic, we 293 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: saw I think, UM, a sense of nostalgia. You know, 294 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of remakes were happening right a whole 295 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: bunch of UM. You know, recasting of the same shows. 296 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's because because America as a whole, 297 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: even before the pandemic, was looking for something comfortable that 298 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: remind them of better times before Trump was an office. Yeah, 299 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: and you know, and so now we're seeing even more 300 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: than that. What's going to be interesting, though, is the 301 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: fact that you know, for the last few months and 302 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: for the next several no new content, I know, you know, 303 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: because people can't get into studios or onto creating to 304 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: create new content. And so that's why it's going to 305 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: be really interesting to watch the content creators, for example, 306 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: regular everyday people on TikTok and and so on, and 307 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: so we need to have the conversation about protecting the 308 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: intellectual property and yes, TikTok can be intellectual property of 309 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: especially black and marginalized content creators, to make sure that 310 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: they're not appropriated and you know, gentrified and all of 311 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: those things that happened. And so that's something that I'm 312 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: really interested in, you know, copyright and trademark for content 313 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: creators and creatives on the Internet and how they can 314 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: protect their property. There's actually an organization, the Institute of 315 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: Intellectual Property and Social Justice, that does a really good 316 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: job with that on a regular basis. Wow, I will 317 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: have to check that out one because I agree there 318 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: are too many times, too many times that we've seen 319 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: clips go viral that people have created and they end 320 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: up in somebody's commercial and I'm like, did that person 321 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: get paid? Did they get paid? You know, did they 322 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: did they receive anything for that? Or it's just like 323 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: these corporations are saying, oh, well, it's out there and 324 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: it's free, so I can you know, I can clip 325 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: it and I can use it because there was nobody 326 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: needed to sign off on anything. And that happens way 327 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: too often. We watch that happen with the young black 328 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: gymnast who's I think her Beyonce routine. I can't remember 329 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: her name right now, but her Beyonce routine went viral 330 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it was everywhere. Her school 331 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: was making money off of it, all of the people 332 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: selling them the leotards were making money off of it, 333 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: and she saw not a dime. That's right, and that 334 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: happens all the time. When we can go all the 335 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: way back to young Peaches Monroe, if I roused on fleek, 336 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: you know that that is the example that I use 337 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: all the time. There was a bar in New York 338 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: called Sports on Fleek, Like she if not created, she 339 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: popularized that phrase. Bath and body Works had a line 340 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: of on fleek products at one point. And so part 341 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: of this is that content creators and creatives don't know 342 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: what questions to ask, don't realize that when they put 343 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: something out there it can be copyrightable. And so that's 344 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: what's really interesting and important to me that just you know, 345 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: providing that information so that folk can protect themselves and 346 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: secure the bag and secure the bag and secure the bag. 347 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: That is wonderful advice, April, and totally appreciated, and people 348 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: need to pay attention to that more. What do you think, 349 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, just as as we head out and head 350 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: into the weekend, Not like that has any true meaning anymore, um, 351 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: but what do you what do you think, um about 352 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: the direction that Hollywood is going to take, uh, either 353 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: during or post this epidemic? Do you think that we 354 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: will see like a series of shows and movies and 355 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: films and you know, on the virus or you know 356 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: when people like in you know, on television practicing social 357 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: distancing and having full conversations about it, Like, how do 358 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: you think that they're going to handle, um this in 359 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: in entertainment kind of going forward. I think they will. 360 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: You know that. In fact, um, just this week, the 361 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: TV show New Amsterdam, which now has Daniel Day kim 362 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: Hello as one of the stars, so you know, I 363 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: tune in even more closely than I do, was already um, 364 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, had an episode their season finale was about 365 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: a pandemic and there was an intro at the beginning 366 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: of the show from the star who said, we're not 367 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: running that show because it's hitting a little too close 368 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: to home. You know, We've already had movies like Contagion 369 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: and Outbreak and Will Smith's you know, I Am Legend 370 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: and so on, and what that means. I think that 371 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood will do it because they're not very creative. Yeah, 372 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: they're not really original, and you know, and this is 373 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: the thing that people are going to be talking about 374 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: for the next six to eighteen months. For sure, they're 375 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: going to be very careful with respect the timing because 376 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, obviously people are losing their loved ones and 377 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: so we have to make sure that we're being thoughtful 378 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: and mindful with how it's taking off, you know, and 379 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: how things are being portrayed. But I absolutely see you know, 380 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: Hollywood sort of you know, diving into what will be 381 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: that new money pit. But it'll be interesting to talk 382 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: about relationships, you know, more than illness and that kind 383 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: of thing. But what it means to you know, a 384 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: couple whose relationship was already strained and be together, you know, 385 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty four seven. You know, when when you had a 386 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: child who you know, you didn't really get along with 387 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: that well, but now that child is living at home again. 388 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, you know, a young person, you know, and 389 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: they're young twenty it's a millennial or gen ze. You 390 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: know what that means when when you were an empty 391 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: nester and you're not anymore. Those are the kinds of 392 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: stories that I would be interested in seeing, and of 393 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: course stories about real life on the front line healthcare 394 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: workers and you know what it's like for them when 395 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: they come home and have to deal with, you know, 396 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: after an eighteen hour shift, but you're a single mom 397 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: and your child still needs help with homework because they 398 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: can't go to a teacher anymore. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 399 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: well you just listed out all of the conversations that 400 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I've had with people who are experiencing just that my 401 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: friends who they were so excited this was going to 402 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: be their year because their kids were finally out of 403 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: the house and they were just like, we get to 404 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: reclaim our lives. And then they're like, we got to 405 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: do that for about three months and they're back, and 406 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, one of the other conversations that we've been 407 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: having too, is the rise in domestic violence. You know, 408 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: there's a rise at twenty percent in domestic violence cases. 409 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: How will that be shown, right, because that's something that 410 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: is very real that we don't talk about and nearly 411 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: enough and and how that's transpiring. But I think that 412 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: there is there is going to be a lot of 413 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: I hope a lot of creativity around what does come 414 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: out of Hollywood. But I also wonder if by the 415 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: time we get there, if people then want to rewatch 416 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: what they just lived through, because it's because you know, again, 417 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: we use entertainment as a way sometimes to escape from 418 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: our day to day lives, and so it will it 419 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: be too close? It's like you know that phrase, too soon, 420 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: you know for me to start seeing a plethora of 421 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: shows that just now trigger that kind of anxiety and 422 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: emotion of what we just went through. So I wonder 423 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: how they'll play with that as well. Yeah, I think 424 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. And again, you know, even before the pandemic, 425 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: Hollywood was not very creative. You know, it's The Fast 426 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: and Furious episode forty two. Now they're on Mars, you know, 427 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: and and no, you know, no shade the Fast and 428 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: Furious because it is probably the most diverse franchise that 429 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: we've ever had. Right, so when we're talking about diversity 430 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: and inclusion all those things that you know, I get 431 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: on my stopbox about we love Fast and Furious because 432 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: it proves that a diverse cast can sell bazillions of dollars. 433 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: But you know, we still in twenty twenty have never 434 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: had a romantic comedy with two leaves from the LGBT 435 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: plus community, right, we can absolutely have that. We still 436 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty have never had a disabled person playing 437 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: a superhero. You know, we have the wonderful Sir Patrick 438 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: um Stewart playing Professor x Xavier in the X Men franchise, 439 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: but and you know, and he sits in a wheelchair, 440 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: but we've never actually had a wheelchair bound person in 441 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: one of those roles. So there's stuff that Hollywood can do. Um, 442 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: you know that is not at all pandemic related. That 443 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: can be escapism for all of us and still be 444 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: original and fun and you know, and help hopefully get 445 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: their box office restarted, because you know, I know that 446 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: the AMC theaters are having trouble right now. I believe 447 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: that they didn't they just file chapter eleven, didn't they just? Yeah? 448 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: And you know, and there's going to be more of that. 449 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, We're all going to have to, especially the corporations, 450 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: rethink how we move in the marketplace. You know, what 451 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: I'm seeing is a significant rise of digital involvement of 452 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: so called influencers because you know, organizations, corporations, brands can't 453 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: make their commercials and their ads anymore, and so they're 454 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: relying on talent of very often marginalized folks, you know, 455 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: like black folks, because they know black Twitter runs the 456 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: world and everything else. And so those people who are 457 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: influencers need to make sure that their resume is fresh, 458 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, that they've got their real ready to go, 459 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: because they may start getting calls like never before as 460 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: the entertainment organizations, you know, networks, TV shows, movies start 461 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: to ramp up again probably in the fall. Interesting, all right, Well, 462 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: we will keep our eye on it and we hope 463 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: that you will come back, uh and and talk to 464 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: us more and talk us through uh this pandemic as 465 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: the as the weeks and weeks go on. Girl, I 466 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: ain't got anytime here like literally, I'm free MSNBC for 467 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: thirty minutes and here we are. Yeah, I would love 468 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: to get It's always fun. It gave me Yes, that's 469 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: that's here here I am, this is this is what 470 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm about. I'm trying to, you know, give Woke a 471 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: f nation folks, different folks to listen to, and all 472 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: my friends something to do. You're providing a service there. 473 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: You go. Appreciate you, April. Thank you so much, my 474 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: pleasure anytime. It's fuck It Friday here on Woke, a 475 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: f daily with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. And I 476 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: got to tell you my fuck itt is live today. Um, 477 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: I am sending out this morning a special fucket fuck 478 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: you to doctor Oz. Y'all, did you see Doctor Oz's 479 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: interview yesterday on Fox News where he said that we 480 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: should send the nation seventy six million children back to 481 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: school so that they have a place to go and 482 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: if the mortality rate is two to three percent, that 483 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: that's a number we're willing to accept. I just want 484 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: you to wrap your mind around what he's saying there. 485 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: When you're talking about two to three percent of seventy 486 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: six million, that is roughly two point three or more 487 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: children that you're willing to sacrifice, that you're willing to 488 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: let die so that you can reopen schools again, so 489 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump gets to reopen the country. The Republican 490 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: Party is willing to sacrifice your children right on the 491 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: altar of capitalism in their bid to reopen the country. Now, 492 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I find it so fascinating that this party that used to, oh, 493 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, plant its flag on the pro life 494 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: fucking everest of life and say that, oh, if it 495 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: has a heartbeat, it's a life right. That we don't 496 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: refer to fetuses and brios, we refer to babies. But 497 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: what I always find so fucking interesting is that as 498 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: soon as those kids, oh I don't know, can breathe 499 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: on their own, as soon as they come out of 500 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: the birth canal that all of a sudden, they're left 501 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: to their own devices and apparently can become sacrificial lambs 502 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: in the name of reopening the country, doctor Oz used 503 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: to be looked at as America's doctor. Fucking Oprah had 504 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: anointed him two decades ago, and then he turned into 505 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: a full fledged infomercial where he realized that his fame 506 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: had gotten into a place where he could hawk different 507 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: products and everyone would buy them because he had the 508 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: public's trust. And so here it is fast forward and 509 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: this doctor is sitting on television telling us that he 510 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: is willing to sacrifice the lives of over two million children. 511 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: And now I want to be clear about what that means, 512 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: because it isn't just two million children. It is their parents, 513 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: it is their grandparents, it is all of the caregivers, 514 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: all of the people that come into contact with those children. 515 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: So that number, as we understand the coronavirus to be 516 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: a highly contagious virus that kills two to three percent 517 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: of the people that come in contact with it, that 518 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: we're not just talking about two to three million kids. 519 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: But if we were, how do you go on national 520 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: television and offer that as an idea? Like do you 521 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: get to decide? Do you are you going to walk 522 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: into the classroom that is filled with thirty children and 523 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: pick out the three to five that you're willing to 524 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: let die. How does that work exactly? You know? This 525 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: week as well, I want to say fuck it to 526 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: the student and motherfucking Republican protesters in Ohio and Michigan. 527 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: You're going to protest against a virus? Like, how fucking 528 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: dumb are you? Oh? Yes, let's own the Libs and 529 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: let's gather in public in mass right, let's rub shoulder 530 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: to shoulder, in face to face and yell at the 531 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: top of our lungs that the state needs to be reopened. 532 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: Hell you want it to be reopened? Go ahead. Why 533 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: don't you go back to work. Why don't you guys 534 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: be the first wave of sacrificial lambs and let us 535 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: see if it's safe. Since you're so hell bent on 536 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: putting everyone else in harm, so I put yourself in 537 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: harm's fucking way. Say that you volunteer. Why don't you 538 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: volunteer as tribute in Hunger Games twenty twenty and say 539 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: that you're willing to put yourself on the front lines 540 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: because you know, what's more important than life, capitalism, what's 541 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: more important than people profit? Right, So why don't you 542 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: all decide that you're going to you know, draft your 543 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: children into going back to school, and if they get 544 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: sick and if they die, so be it. Right. At 545 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: least America's reopened. Right, at least those goddamn liberals didn't 546 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: get to tell you what you could and couldn't do. 547 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: And those pesky scientists with all of their stupid facts 548 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: and data, how dare they right? Because you, with your 549 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: barely high school diploma, you should be the one in charge. Right. 550 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: How dare these people with education and multiple degrees try 551 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: and save you from yourself? I mean, all must be 552 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: some type of conspiracy. And I wonder, I wonder, folks, 553 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: I wonder where they got this from. I wonder where 554 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: they got the idea that the coronavirus is nothing more 555 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: than a democratic hoax. I wonder where they got the 556 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: idea that, you know, by telling churches and synagogues and 557 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, and other houses of worship to shut down 558 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: right for fear that the virus will spread on high 559 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: holy days. Maybe it's just a war on religion, you know, 560 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: because that's what William Barr thinks, that's what Ronda Santas 561 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: thinks as the governor of Florida. You know, we're just 562 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: going to make those houses of worships exempt Oh, that's right, 563 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: because we're gonna pray the coronavirus away because it works 564 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: so well with being gay. Right, the logic here or 565 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: lack thereof the fact that the response to this global 566 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: pandemic is falling on ideological lines, and then you can 567 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: honestly see that Republicans don't give a fuck. They just 568 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: out here wild right. From doctor Oz to Jerry Folwell 569 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Junior that decided to open up Liberty University, to Ronda 570 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: Santas to all of these were Publicans that just see 571 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: fit right to own the Libs and lick a pole, 572 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: or to lick their groceries, or to go cough on 573 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: one another. You know what I say, I say, have 574 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: at it, have at it. Why don't you show us 575 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: all whose boss right? Just make sure that you don't 576 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: utilize the public hospitals and you don't you know you're 577 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: you're not going to get the part of the stockpile 578 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: of the ventilators. No, no, no, no, no. I want 579 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: you to go and when your chest starts to close 580 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: up and you have a fever and you start to 581 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: feel ill, like you may pass out right, and you 582 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: need oxygen and all of those things. No, no, no, no, 583 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: you don't get to go and put your weight on 584 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: our healthcare system. No, you don't get to do that, 585 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: right because, according to you, the nurses and the doctors 586 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: that are asking for PPE, and the first responders and 587 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: the people that are working at the grocery stores and 588 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: the clerks known theory, just a bunch of liars exaggerating 589 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: the virus. Right. So when you fall ill, make sure 590 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: you stay your ass in your fucking house and don't 591 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: ask anybody for our goddamn thing, because we will not 592 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: have owned you anything. We will owe you nothing. It's 593 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: crazy to me how far we have gone in this 594 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: world in America right now. But you know, hell fuck it. 595 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: I am excited to welcome back to woke a f 596 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: daily Ned Price, who is a director of policy and 597 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: Communications at the National Security Action and is a former 598 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: CIA agent and teacher at Georgetown. NBC contributor All Around 599 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: All the Things Intelligence, all the time, Ned, welcome back. 600 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Daniel. So, the world, according to 601 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: Trump is always about shifting blame. So as intel is 602 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: coming up, and the more we are learning is that 603 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: Trump apparently and the Trump administration was warned about this 604 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: global pandemic as far back as November of twenty nineteen. 605 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: Now we know COVID nineteen is called COVID nineteen because 606 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: the nineteen is a symbol of the year in which 607 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: it was discovered, which is twenty nineteen. Now we are 608 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: hearing reports that this administration was given even more time. 609 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: We thought it was two months, and now it's looking 610 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: like it was several months of a lead time. What 611 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: are your thoughts about what the intelligence community is a 612 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: learning and about how bad this timetable is starting to 613 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: look for this administration. Yeah, it's the timeframe has long 614 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: looked bad, and it looks even worse now with the 615 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: more we're learning. As he alluded to, it seems pretty clear, 616 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: according to published reports, that our intelligence communities started to 617 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: disseminate what's called raw intelligence or raw reports about the 618 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: emersions of an unknown flu like pandemic in central China 619 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: as early as November twenty nineteen. We don't know much 620 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: about the form or the content or tone that intelligence 621 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: took in raw intelligence oftentimes doesn't reach the highest levels 622 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: of government. But what we do know, Danielle, is that 623 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: by December, when the Chinese were starting to discuss this. 624 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: On December thirty, first when they started to discuss it 625 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: with international authorities, and as early as early January these 626 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: reports were making their way to the President's desk. There 627 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: were warning signs the lights were blinking red, a phrase 628 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: that is famous from nine to eleven but should be 629 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: equally applicable here. And for the better part of January, 630 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: published reports have indicated that the president's intelligence briefing was 631 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: jeopardized by these warnings, that they dominated the President's intelligence 632 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: briefings morning after morning, and yet we didn't hear much 633 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: of anything besides praise for President She praised for China's transparency, 634 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: praised for China's ability to get this under control. As 635 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: President Trump suggested, that's all we heard during this period. 636 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: We didn't hear anything about the linking red light, suggesting 637 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: there was a massive cover up, suggesting the Chinese were 638 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: failing in their efforts to contain this, as we now 639 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: know was the case. Now, did other countries also receive 640 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: these warnings earlier? Do you believe like when when things 641 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: like this happen on a global scale, My assumption would 642 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: be that all world leaders are and their administrations are 643 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: alerted at around the same time. Well, we probably have 644 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: I should say, we certainly have better warning than most countries, 645 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: just because our intelligence apparatus is so sophisticated, and especially 646 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to countries like China, countries that are 647 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: a high level intelligence target for the United States, we 648 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: tend to have a pretty sophisticated understanding um at least 649 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: at the macro level of what's going on, and sometimes 650 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: at the ground level too. And if these reports are 651 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: accurate about raw intelligence suggesting the emergence of a flu 652 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: like virus in November twenty nineteen, that would that would 653 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: certainly be the case. But you know, we didn't necessarily 654 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: have to know as early as November that COVID nineteen 655 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: was quickly coming to our shores. The case of South 656 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: Korea's interesting because the South Koreans had their first diagnosed 657 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: case on the same day and within twenty four hours 658 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: of our first case. And look at the response in 659 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: South Korea. You had rapid mobilization of supplies, you had 660 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: the right amount of supplies, you had testing that was 661 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: widely available, and the availabily the testing Danielle was, it's 662 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: more it serves more than a diagnostic function. In this case, 663 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: it actually allowed the South Koreans to isolate those cases, 664 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: to do the sophisticated contact tracing into ensure that they 665 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: didn't have to shut down there nearly their entire economy 666 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: as we've had to do here. It's just nineteen day 667 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: in terms of what they were able to do with 668 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: really very similar warning in terms of the tackical warning 669 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 1: of the virus having arrived on their shores. So ned, 670 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: is this then a function of the Trump administration and 671 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: Republicans distrust for the intelligence community and the war essentially 672 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: that they have been waging against the intelligence community for 673 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: the past three and a half years. Is this is 674 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: there negligence right of this intel a result of their 675 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: animosity that they have had and been harboring for the 676 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: past three and a half years. I think that's part 677 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: of it. I think it's the result of a long 678 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: running three years in this case, as you alluded to, 679 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: war on the intelligence community, but also more broadly, it's 680 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: been a war on science and a war on expertise. 681 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: This is a president who himself and he surrounded himself 682 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: with advisors that tend to have no need for expertise, 683 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: for fact based investigations, for the kind of stuff that 684 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: really ask to govern and contour a government response if 685 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: it is to be effective. We've seen this in any 686 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: number of realms. Climate change, for example, has been something 687 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: that they have just dismissed out of hand and turned 688 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: to blind I too, even today, we've seen more rollbacks 689 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: when it comes to environmental protections. They consistently turn a 690 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: blind eye to warnings from the intelligence community, from experts 691 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: in the law enforcement community. And this has been a 692 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: repeated pattern time and again. So what would have happened 693 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: Give me a breakdown on what would have happened if 694 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: a normal administration that believes in facts, believes in science, 695 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: believes in experts, could have done if, in fact, they 696 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: were notified in November that appending global pandemic was about 697 00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: to hit the shoreline in the United States. Well, the 698 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: Daniel I will say that the previous administration had enough 699 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: foresight to leave behind what's been known as the pandemic Playbook. 700 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: And this playbook, as you've probably read, had essentially a 701 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: step by step breakdown of what to do when when 702 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: these concerns rose to senior levels. And so in this case, 703 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: if it was late twenty nineteen, even it was early 704 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, there were certain steps that the administration could 705 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: have taken weeks before and ultimately did pre positioning supplies 706 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 1: including PPE and ventilators in major urban centers and centers 707 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: at that point on the West Coast where the virus 708 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: had already arrived and where it was spreading within the community, 709 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: preparing diagnostic tests and ensuring the widespread availability of these tests. 710 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, the administration declined to use the first test 711 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: that was designed by Germany approved by the WHO, and 712 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: in turn, the rollout of testing was both delayed and 713 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: it was error written. The first CDC produced test just 714 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: frankly didn't work, and days, if not more, were lost 715 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: in this process. And then third, the administration would have 716 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: had weeks at its disposal to prepare for mitigation efforts 717 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: if it looked like containment wasn't going to do the trick. 718 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: And I think containment in a with a virus as 719 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: virulent and easily transmissible as this may have been impossible 720 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: in the first case, but weeks more to work on 721 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: mitigation plans, but potentially mitigation plans that didn't require the 722 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: sort of the fact donationwide quarantine that we have now. 723 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: You know, there was a really interesting analysis published in 724 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: the New York Times this week that said, had the 725 00:44:53,320 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: administration moved only days quicker, had they enacted these quarantine 726 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: measures two weeks before they ultimately did on March third, 727 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: stead of mid March, ninety percent of the deaths that 728 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: we've seen during this first wave of the coronavirus would 729 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: have been prevented on US soil. I think that really 730 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: speaks to the cost of delay, the cost of rejecting science, 731 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,959 Speaker 1: the costs of rejecting expertise. They're very real, they're very 732 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 1: dire in this case, and it's unlike anything we've we've seen. 733 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: Why don't you think that we on the left, on Democrats, 734 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: of progressives, just people with common sense, Why are we 735 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 1: not hammering that into the minds of voters? Potentially that 736 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: there was a slow response here, There was a neglect 737 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: in terms of facts and information that was coming through. 738 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if as these press briefings were happening, 739 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump just stuck his fingers in his ears 740 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: and was, you know, screaming like a toddler. I can't 741 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: hear you, I can't hear you. Why isn't there a 742 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: better case being made about how this cost American lives? 743 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: How Trump's direct inaction costs thousands of people their lives. 744 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think I think that has to be 745 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: the message, not only because it's powerful, but more importantly 746 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: because it's true, it's undeniable that and now we have 747 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: some of the scientific data to back this up that 748 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: dithering in this case was lethal and and and it's 749 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: probably impaired to call it diithering. Uh. It was complete 750 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: and total inaction and veering so far in the opposite direction, 751 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: not only not only refraining from common actually going out 752 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: in praising Presidentisan, King of China, praising U the Chinese response, 753 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: and claiming to the American people time and again that 754 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: we had this completely in totally under control and it 755 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: would just go away with the warmer weather. I think, 756 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, this is a difficult environment. People are scared, 757 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: people are dying. We're all cooped up in our in 758 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: our homes, their economic concerns, people are worried about family 759 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: and friends, and so I think in an environment like this, 760 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 1: it's always going to be difficult to have that kind 761 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: of message really sync in. And I think people are 762 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: just trying to understand the basics of where we are 763 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: and what their lives will look like. For the next 764 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: week or the next month, and so it's certainly I 765 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: hope that will continue to press this case and to 766 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: be relentless in showing the fact, showing exactly what happens, 767 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: with timelines and with replays of Trump's own words, And 768 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: you don't need to be fancy, you don't need to 769 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: certainly create anything here. The historical record itself is incredibly damning. 770 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: And I think as we looked to November and not 771 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: to politicize this, but this ultimately is a political question 772 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: because we need political leaders who take these things seriously. 773 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: We need a president who will put the public health 774 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: interests of the American people before, in the case of 775 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, a trade deal that he was negotiating and 776 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: consolidating with China. So in that sense, it is a 777 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: political question, and that's why we have to convey this 778 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: message over and over, including I hope the Biden campaign 779 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: will be aggressive in portraying this in the presidential context 780 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: as well. So give him the fact that it is 781 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: all coronavirus all the time. There are certain stories that 782 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: seem to be slipping through the cracks, and one of 783 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: those stories has been elevated by The Daily Beast and 784 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: Ross story, which is that William Barr, the US Attorney General, 785 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: pressed pressured I will use that word Australia for help 786 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: on the Mueller review, as the Department of Justice was 787 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: supposedly working with the country of Australia to um to 788 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: rely in the release of hostages that were being held 789 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: in Iran. This sounds eerily familiar to me, like we've 790 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: been down this road before, except we can swap out 791 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 1: Australia for the Ukraine. How is this different and why 792 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: isn't this being covered? It's it's really not different. I 793 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: mean talk about quid pro quo. This is, this has 794 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: all the ingredients. Uh. The the this in this case 795 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: was helping the Australians with the release of two Australian 796 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: bloggers detained in Tehran. That the thing that the Trump 797 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,280 Speaker 1: administration was seeking um wasn't in this case of pony 798 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: uh report for the announcement of a sham investigation. Uh. 799 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: It was more a ammunition that they could use to 800 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: undermine the findings of the Muller report. So it was 801 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: very much of the same cloth. I think the fact 802 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: is it's not getting attention because for just as we 803 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: were discussing, you know, people, I think are very focused 804 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: on what's going on right in front of them, what's 805 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: going on around them, and not to mention the public 806 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: health and economic concerns that we're all grappling with. I 807 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: think that's that's the overwriting part. My hope is that 808 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: it has in some ways more to do with that, 809 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: and I suspect it does. But I also fear that 810 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: in some ways we're developing a numbness, and in that 811 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: numbness is really taking hold because you know, we hear 812 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: these stories and we say, well, you know what, we 813 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: sort of heard that before. We the Trump administration has 814 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: tried to do this before. In fact, the former Chief 815 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: of Staff mcmulvaney said in his very famous press conference, 816 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: we do this all the time. And so it's my 817 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: hope that we don't start to normalize this, and we 818 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: hope that we don't start to think of this as 819 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: just par for the course during not only this administration, 820 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,959 Speaker 1: but other administrations. It may be parts for the course 821 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: during this administration, but that doesn't make it right, it 822 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: doesn't make it proper, and it doesn't make it consistent 823 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: with our national security. You know, in the case of Ukraine, 824 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: it was undermining an important partner on the front lines 825 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: of Russian aggression. In this case, it was really shaking 826 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: down one of our closest allies, most long standing allies, 827 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: in return for denigration of our own intelligence community and 828 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: law enforcement communities. But the sort of basic of it, 829 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: the basics of it was the same. It was President 830 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: Trump putting his own personal and political interests ahead of 831 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 1: the national interests. The national interests being our national security, 832 00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: the security of a partner in the case of Ukraine, 833 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: in national interest being trust in law enforcement, trust in 834 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: US intelligence, I trust in the truth and facts that 835 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 1: the Trump administration was trying to undermine in this case. 836 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm so concerned about the ability 837 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 1: of Abiden administration to breathe faith back into agencies that 838 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: this current administration has been hell bent on destroying. And 839 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, there are so many things we only know 840 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: about what becomes a headline, but there are so many 841 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: other things that are being neglected, so many other things 842 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: that are happening behind the scenes that I'm deeply concerned about. 843 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: You know, one of the latest in the line of 844 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,919 Speaker 1: conspiracies too, and I don't again you talk about raw 845 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: intelligence information breaking story today was about the United States 846 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: investigating whether or not the coronavirus was manufactured in a 847 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: Chinese lab, And I'm like, how much of that is 848 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: an actual investigation versus trying to create yet another outlet 849 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: for Trump to not claim responsibility another scapegoat, right, Look, 850 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact of the matter is it doesn't 851 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: matter in terms of our response where the virus originated. 852 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: It could have originated in a wet market, it could 853 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: have originated in a lab. It's an important question to 854 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: eventually know for accountability. But what's important at the moment, 855 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: what's most important is not global accountability. What's most important 856 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: are the public health concerns of the American people, and 857 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: so yes, eventually we should exert resources to get to 858 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of where and how this originated, with an 859 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: eye to holding accountable any bad actors and also to 860 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: preventing something like this from potentially happening again, whether it 861 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: was a market or something more nefarious. But the effort 862 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: on the part of the administration to shine a spotlight 863 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 1: on the origins of the virus is just another effort 864 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: to scapegoat anyone but the Trump administration. I heard President 865 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: Trump used this tactic against anything and anyone that's close 866 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 1: by that is adjacent to this response. It's been China, 867 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: it's been the who was Obama administration? It was the 868 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,240 Speaker 1: Obama administration. It's been democratic governors. That's been private industry 869 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: if you listened to his attacks on GE and three 870 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 1: M and H and others. It's been the media. It's 871 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: been impeachments because Democrats were distracted. You know, it's been 872 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: anyone but him, And you know, I see this as 873 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: very much in that vein. It's not an unimportant question 874 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: over the longer term, both for reasons of accountability and 875 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: to ensure we are better prepared and better able to 876 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: send off the next pandemic. But it's not the most 877 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: important question right now. There are far more important, impressing priorities. 878 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: That the administration has been so negligent in pursuing and 879 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 1: upholding that it's very clear what they're trying to do. 880 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 1: What are your former colleagues thinking these days with regard 881 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: to the treatment that they have been receiving at the 882 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:49,439 Speaker 1: hands of this administration and Republican pundits in general. How 883 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: is morale? Well, it's a it's probably unlike any other 884 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: time that our intelligence community has endured, while many of 885 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 1: us are fortunate enough to be able to work from 886 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: home and to at least have something to distract us from, 887 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 1: you know, the world around us and the terrible, the 888 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: terrible situation we're all in. There's very little in the 889 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 1: way of intelligence, that intelligence work that can be done 890 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: from anywhere other than a classified facility. And so many 891 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: of my former colleagues are for the first time in 892 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: their careers forced to twiddle their thumbs because they're on 893 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: staggered shifts. Some of them are having to remain out 894 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 1: of the office altogether, and it is just a really 895 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: difficult time for that reason. It the difficult time compounded 896 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: by the past three years having an endured administration that, 897 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: even before President Trump was sworn into office, made it 898 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: clear that he would have very little use for the 899 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: work of the intelligence community, including its analysis. This was 900 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: a candidate and later a president elect who just flatly 901 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: rejected a high confidence analysis of the intelligence community. It's 902 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: a presidents and an administration that one same office denigrated 903 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: and battered and put a bullseye on the intelligence community 904 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: and our our law enforcement colleagues. In um. He has 905 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: openly embraced President Putin of Russia. He has consistently sided 906 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 1: with foreign autocrats, including Kim John Nunn and a lot 907 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: of than Salmon over the assessments of our intelligence community. 908 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: So they have been through it. They've been through a lot. 909 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: But I think this is a unique moment because for 910 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: the first time in many of their careers, for many 911 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: of them, um, they don't have the mission to be 912 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: able to to focus on. You know that the advantage 913 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: of being in that world is that your mission is 914 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: more important than just about any other mission there is. 915 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: It's the national security of the United States. It's the 916 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: safety and protection of the American people. And when you're 917 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: not able to even focus on that, I think these 918 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: times are are are even more difficult for many of 919 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: them than they are for many of us. Oh. I 920 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: wish that I could say that there's going to be 921 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: an end to this at some point, but I just 922 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: don't feel it at all. And so I think that 923 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: it's incredibly important that folks like you ned help us 924 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: keep an eye on the things that people need to 925 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: be paying attention to, and also keeping your finger on 926 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: the pulse of what is happening and transpiring inside of 927 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: our intelligence agencies, many of which you know, to be honest, 928 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, other than the latest spy movies or what 929 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: have you, the American people really know nothing about And 930 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: I think that that's okay because they're then able to 931 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: do their job right. Um, and so I think that 932 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 1: that's important. But I do believe that people really need 933 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: to be paying attention. And I know that it's so 934 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: difficult now to all of the other stories, all of 935 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: the other ways in which this administration is incredibly underhanded, 936 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: and and Barr and his actions in Australia, it's just 937 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: another manifestation of their criminality, and it's just it's exhausting. 938 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: It's exhausting at this point. I agree. Ned. Thank you 939 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: so much for joining Woke f Daily. We appreciate your 940 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: insight on a weekly basis and are lucky to have you. 941 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: Thanks so much so I'll appreciate it. Take care. 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