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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome it to NRG Stadium. Mark Vandermayer,

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. It is Monday, a new week,

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Speaker 1: a new day for the Houston Texans. Mini camps starting

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Speaker 1: up this week, and away we go, Johnny, as we

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Speaker 1: have many questions to answer from the fans, and I've

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Speaker 1: got a list of them. We sort of went with

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Speaker 1: an amalgam list of questions from fans that we've been

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Speaker 1: getting throughout the weekend, throughout the day as the Texans

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Speaker 1: are in search of a new general manager following the

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Speaker 1: dismissal of Brian Gaine on Friday afternoon. Happened late. We

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Speaker 1: went live on Friday to talk about it, and I

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Speaker 1: know everyone's been talking about it, so we'll continue to

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Speaker 1: talk about it today. But we'll also have on the

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Speaker 1: show tonight two Minutes with a Texan with a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys that I know people want to hear from.

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Speaker 1: Diante Foreman, of course, Longhorn running back year three. My gosh,

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. Another Year three guy. How about Julian and Davenport.

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty catches up with both of these guys. Two

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Speaker 1: Minutes with a Texan. Our final segment will feature an

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Speaker 1: assistant coach, among other things. John Pagano coaches outside line ackers.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been around the block, been with the I

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Speaker 1: did say San Dieogo Chargers, but I'm allowed to because

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Speaker 1: they were the San Diego they were when he was there. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are gonna come up in the conversation with

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Speaker 1: John Pagato tonight. Yeah, there, you know, this was I

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Speaker 1: think about this weekend. Um, what what news came down

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Speaker 1: of mid stream on Friday. But I thought about this

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Speaker 1: you you mentioned it during the show on Friday, Mark

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Speaker 1: and it took me driving home thinking about it, kind

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Speaker 1: of internalizing it. What a what a shocking situation that was? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because in the in the there's been three GMS and

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Speaker 1: Charlie Cassier was let go. Rick had to leave of absence,

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Speaker 1: time in the organization's history, and I think maybe that

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Speaker 1: was why Friday, when I thought about it, it was

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Speaker 1: like whoa. I mean, there were just so there's so

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Speaker 1: many aspects of it kind of fly. It's unique to

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Speaker 1: this organization because different Well, if somebody was saying, look,

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Speaker 1: I saw a lot of stuff on Twitter this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I can't react to all of it, and some

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Speaker 1: of it from media members who really should know better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're trying to build a case, build it accurately.

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Speaker 1: And I get some of the criticism. Believe me, I understand.

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Speaker 1: I understand, but you want to be accurate the way

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Speaker 1: you paint the picture of things. But somebody said, oh

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland South, Really, really are you going there with me?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns have been back in the league

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Speaker 1: since ninety nine, Johnny, how many winning seasons for the

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Speaker 1: thousand and three was last time the Browns were in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? Yeah, that was Butch Davis three before the

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Speaker 1: Facebook was before the Facebook, before Sean Parker changed the

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Speaker 1: At least that's what I saw in the Social Network film,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm sticking with. Romeo Cornell though did

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Speaker 1: that's that's one of those really hurtful years when you

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Speaker 1: on that kind of thinking. And how many head coaches

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Speaker 1: their fourth GM, and you mentioned it. I mean as

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Speaker 1: far as people getting fired in those kinds of positions,

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Speaker 1: it's weird timing. It's actually, Look, there's no good timing

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Speaker 1: for any kind of dismissal removal of somebody from a position.

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Speaker 1: Where you have certain position groups that need fortification. They

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Speaker 1: not a bad time. You mentioned it on Friday of

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Speaker 1: on the list of things that could have. Okay, what

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Speaker 1: want to say if I'm worried about, but the ninety

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be important in that, but you didn't

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Speaker 1: I want to make some changes with my personnel groups,

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Speaker 1: with my scouts with this, you're still gonna send them

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Speaker 1: to get them out to places after you've made change.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna make changes to that particular department, So

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Speaker 1: you're not really missing anything if you do that in January.

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Speaker 1: When when when When it happened this last time with Brian,

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. You got to get ready for the Combine. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. That's the busy season. So

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Speaker 1: the timing standpoint, it may not be a horrible time

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Speaker 1: So that's a question. One of the other questions that

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Speaker 1: to answer the question for you, cal McNair. It's the

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Speaker 1: obviously Janet McNair owns the team, he's the chairman, but

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Speaker 1: It's Cal McNair and Cal has decided, after a thorough

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Speaker 1: like moves. They do no doubt they like being aggressive.

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Speaker 1: The Texans won eleven games last year. Looks pretty good.

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Speaker 1: the job, Brian Gaine got let go. Anything is possible,

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Speaker 1: and that cal McNair wants to win for the city

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Speaker 1: of Houston, win a championship. It's all about winning a

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Speaker 1: Jack Easterby coming in executive vice president of football Development. Look,

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Speaker 1: this guy is really accomplished with the Patriots organization. He's

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Speaker 1: he's part of the mix in football opts, if you will.

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Speaker 1: With Bill O'Brien. With the way things are going, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how that's all gonna shake out. I really

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Speaker 1: don't know about structural stuff, Johnny. But he didn't make

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Speaker 1: that's when when you start to say power, then you

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Speaker 1: stop an end with the McNair family, Jas McNair, kl McNair.

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Speaker 1: That that just stop right there. The power. The other

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Speaker 1: look at it is influence. Who has influence? Now, that

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Speaker 1: probably been the biggest you know, him pushing me. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's always pushed me, even when we were kids. You know,

427
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Speaker 1: it's just up until this point, he's always pushed me

428
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 1: to be better. I'm always competed with him, honestly. You know,

429
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 1: I had a lot of guys on my team, but

430
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 1: he was the guy that I competed with it because

431
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: I knew his game was going to be hid as

432
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Speaker 1: long as I could keep my game abuff is and

433
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: I feel like would help the team. So no, even

434
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: with him not being here by my side at this point,

435
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that I want to

436
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: continue to make him proud, continue to compete with things

437
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: that we talked about even before I even got to

438
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: this point. So that was just a matter of time.

439
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: Just landed at a lot on the feeling to being productive.

440
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: You talked about those competitions, How fierce were they? And

441
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: I imagine they weren't just limited football, right, So no, No, definitely, man,

442
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: they they varied from all different type of things to

443
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: sitting in the front seat to eating the last piece

444
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: of food, anything on a video game. Just didn't matter

445
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: what it was. We just always wanted to be number one.

446
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: We always wanted to be the best. Having somebody that

447
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: you're with day in and day out and somebody that

448
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: just as competitive as you, it's like it's NonStop and

449
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: it's still like that to this day. How oft y'all

450
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 1: talk every day? Yeah? I see my brother pretty much

451
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,239
Speaker 1: every day, you know, So, yeah, we talked all the

452
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 1: time and and I'm still his biggest supporter. He's still

453
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Speaker 1: my biggest supporter, and you know, we still push each other.

454
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Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Go in and have a

455
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: great LTA. You know, I have great practice, continue to

456
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: put them together and then no, once we getting out

457
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: of little break, just you know, just build, keep building.

458
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 1: My break won't really be much of a break. I

459
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: might take a trip here, but honestly, I'll just be

460
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: focused and locked in. You know, I feel like I

461
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: got a lot to prove, a lot to come back from.

462
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people are looking for me to come

463
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: in and pick up kind of where I left off,

464
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: you know as a rookie, So as you got to

465
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: come in and be locked in. That's really my focus.

466
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: What can this offense do at full strength next year?

467
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: You think? I think we can do a lot with

468
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: everybody staying healthy. I think that's really the big thing.

469
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: And did everybody staying healthy? You know, my two years

470
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: being here, we haven't had a healthy roster. So at

471
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Speaker 1: this point, we just got to continue to try to

472
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Speaker 1: stay healthy. And I think everything goes as far as football,

473
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: I'll take ever yourself. There's Jante for him and Withdrew

474
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Speaker 1: Doherty two minutes with a text in and you'll be

475
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Speaker 1: hearing a lot of that as we get toward and

476
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Speaker 1: into training camp. In fact, in the next segment, Julio

477
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: Davidport Drew catches up with the left tackle or will

478
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: he play right tackle or will he play something else?

479
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: Who knows. They've been doing a lot of mixing and

480
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: matching on that offensive line. But Davenport manned the left

481
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: tackle position for the bulk of twenty eighteen, and clearly

482
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: he's got some company in that group with Matt Khalil

483
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: with the drafting of Titus Howard. But who knows how

484
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: these guys all work out and work in as they

485
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: had for training camp in late July. But Julio Davenport

486
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: year three, Johnny, we saw some great things in year one.

487
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean maybe great as an overstatement, but some really

488
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: positive couple of games, great flashes. Yea last year the

489
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: Philly touchdown reception where he just kind of found himself open.

490
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: You know what I liked about that play is he

491
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: instinctively headed for the end zone and Watson was rolling

492
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: out like, hey, let me try to make myself useful

493
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: over here and make a play. And they did that

494
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times in the New England game in

495
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Week three, so let's just see more here.

496
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, he ran the ball so well for a

497
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: stretch twenty seventeen. You want to get back to that

498
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: because he really couldn't do much of that last year.

499
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: So it's all about health and progress for him. We

500
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: were talking about OTA observations the other day, you know,

501
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: some of the things that we see, and keep in mind,

502
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: you know, training camp is not here yet, so I

503
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: did not write any OTIA observations. But training camp is

504
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: around the corner, so we'll be plenty of writing then.

505
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: But one that I had the other day was the

506
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: way they were running a drill that was on the

507
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Speaker 1: other side of the fifty and so we were on

508
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: the other side of the fifty. They were on the

509
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: other side of the fifty, and so they ran a

510
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: play so as a team drill, and so Bill O'Brien said,

511
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: how many times like this is a passing camp. It's

512
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: a passing camps, passing camp, So what do you do?

513
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: You sneak a running there, And so they did that

514
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Ironically, both times were deforming, but

515
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: they ran I don't know if it was just the

516
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: inside zone or run his own play. But I couldn't

517
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: tell who was that running back. I was kind of

518
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: shielded by the players because they were kind of defensive.

519
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: Players were standing on one side of offense together, so

520
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't really see it. But I knew it was

521
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: a run play. I could see that. And then I

522
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: saw this helmet just shoot through and I was like, whoa,

523
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: I got through quick. Who is that. I'm thinking it's

524
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: one of the rookies, thinking is maybe it's Lamar. I'm like,

525
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he got through the hole

526
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: and then turned up the field and I could see

527
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: two seven and went, whoa, That'sante. So he's moving well.

528
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that was the That was the

529
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Speaker 1: fastest I had seen him go through a hole. Now

530
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: the other side of it is okay, you know, nobody's

531
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna hit you when you get another side hole. But yeah,

532
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: they's never been scared. I mean, he's two hundred thirty

533
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: pounds and he runs he runs, uh, he runs through

534
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: with good pad level and he's ready to run through

535
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 1: somebody if he has to, So he's not scared of that.

536
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: But just to see that quickness and that burst. It's encouraging,

537
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: was very encouraging. Gotta keep it going. I have another

538
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: question for you about running backs coming up, a little

539
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: bit more on the general manager's situation. John Pagano joining us.

540
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: Also outside linebackers coach and Julio and Davenport busy. Final

541
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Speaker 1: segment on Texans All Access coming your way next, keeping

542
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Speaker 1: your company as we start the week here Texans All Access.

543
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll have a mini camp show as they'll be

544
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: out at the he's the Methodist Training Center doing their thing.

545
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be much of a mini

546
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: camp this week as far as heavy duty. You know,

547
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: back in the day mini camp, Johnny had pads. Okay,

548
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: this is a padded deal. This is a serious is

549
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: that it definitely pre twenty eleven CBA. I think even

550
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: maybe ten years before that. I might be wrong about that,

551
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: but they used to put pads on for mini camp.

552
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: This is a big deal. Now. I don't want to

553
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: say it's not a big deal, but I think it's

554
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: more of a winding down session of all the OTA work.

555
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: This is the ninth week of the nine week off

556
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: season program started April fifteenth. We sort of celebrated that day.

557
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: They're back. Let's get to it. They were doing just

558
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning the first few weeks, but then got

559
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: out there for the OTAs. It's the fourth week of

560
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: OTA stuff. That's the mini camp. So I think they

561
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: feel good about the work they've been doing. And the

562
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: one thing you really want to avoid is sending people

563
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: home with injuries. You want to send them off with

564
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: some encouragement with the little momentum going into the desert.

565
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: That's what I call the break between mini camp and

566
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Speaker 1: training camp and get them ready to go for training camp. Here.

567
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: We have it all right, We promised this. Julian on

568
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: Davidports this is two minutes with the Texans. Drew Doherty

569
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: caught up with the left tackle and asked him how

570
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: he's getting for the season. What is his temperature as

571
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: he embarks on the twenty nineteen campaign. Very excited. I

572
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of things to prove and got a

573
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: lot of work to put in. You know, just throw

574
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: the haters wrong. I gotta go out there and show

575
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: him Michael Ball, show him I belong here and show

576
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: him where I want to be. How much is that

577
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: is motivation to talk about the haters? How much is

578
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: that motivation? How much your other things motivation? Definitely motivation

579
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: in itself. You know, you don't ever want people to

580
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: think any bad of you or any less than what

581
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: you want people to think of yourself. Got a lot

582
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 1: of work to do, and I'm ready to do it.

583
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: How good can this offense be? Very good? We're doing

584
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: some good things right now to put into makings that

585
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: what can be a really good offense? And you know

586
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: we're excited for the year. We just got to make

587
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: sure we handle business and be real disciplined and every

588
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: little thing that we take care of. What's been the

589
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: most eye opening thing for you since you got here

590
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: a couple of years back, just being here from where

591
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm at wasn't supposed to be here college I went to.

592
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's a rarity, but you know, I handle

593
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: business and did what I could to, you know, make

594
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: this dream come true. And now I'm here. You know,

595
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: I got to show that out along, and I want

596
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: to stay here for a really long time. How much

597
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: whether it's a lot, whether it's a little something in between,

598
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: but how much of buck Nell and everybody there and

599
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: everything you went through there do you take with you

600
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. Runner definitely take it a lot.

601
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: Being a smaller school. Obviously, if you had to work

602
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: a little harder, it wasn't on like TV screen and stuff.

603
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: So that's what this media stuff is kind of new

604
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: to me. I'm not really used to it at the moment,

605
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: even though I've had a little bit here and there.

606
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: But the work we put in and you know, practices

607
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: and stuff, things that even my old line coach coach

608
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: taught me in college. You know, I make sure I'll

609
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: bring that with me and you know, use that to

610
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: help me develop. You kind of feel a little kinship.

611
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: I know it's a smaller school than Bucknell, but he's

612
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: sort of feel a kinship with Vincent Smith in that

613
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: regard because he's from Limestone and oh yeah, no doubt.

614
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: You know, he made it from a D two school.

615
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people don't know buck Now

616
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: is D one double A, but it is him coming

617
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: from a D two school is a big time. I've

618
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: never heard of school before, just like many I've never

619
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: heard of buck Now. So he definitely has the same

620
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: you know feelings that I got going along with him.

621
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Drew Jordy with Julian and Davidport two minutes with a

622
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: tech sand and a couple of things before we get

623
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: back into some more GM talk. And there's really not

624
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: a whole lot to say tonight, but wanted to mention

625
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: this about Davidport. I think it's worth mentioning again, Johnny,

626
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: And maybe people don't want to hear it, but I

627
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: always believe in the capacity to improve, the capacity to

628
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: get better. How many times do we have to see

629
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: examples of this in this league before we realize, Hey,

630
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: that's possible that people who practice their craft, who have

631
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: athletic talent and keep working on it can improve. Really

632
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: what a revelation. Well, Davidport is trying to do just that.

633
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about year one to year two.

634
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: This is year three for Davidport, but year one he

635
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: was that sixth man on the offensive line and stuff.

636
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: Last year started the bulk of the season at left tackle.

637
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: This is a real opportunity for him right here to say,

638
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: you know what, all the talk about tackle, I got

639
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: this and I'm eager to see what he does in

640
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: training camp. And maybe we won't know right away, but

641
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: I want to see his progress, and I think everybody

642
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: wants to give him the chance to improve what I

643
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: thought was interesting last year at training camp at twenty eighteen.

644
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: As I'm sitting there watching training camp, Mark, i keep

645
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: looking over at Kendall Lamb and I'm like, you know,

646
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: and I even told you this a couple of times.

647
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, Mark, Kendell Lamb is doing really well at

648
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: training camp. And that was last year. It was last year. Yeah,

649
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: there was so much victory all throwing his way. After

650
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, you had that really tough start at left

651
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: tackle against Gania the team he it was, Yeah, it

652
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: was tough, and I just remember I would see him

653
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: in the locker room and I knew, I knew how

654
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: much that that ate at him, that his opportunity to

655
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: start did not go well and he wasn't able to

656
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: lock in that spot and then he wasn't able to

657
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: get on the fielder all. And it was it was tough.

658
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: But as I'm watching and I just listened and I

659
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: saw what things were said, and Kendall sort of became

660
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: a joke to a lot of people out there. But

661
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: in that training camp, Kendall was really good and I

662
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: was like, man, this is really The fans won't like

663
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: hearing this because once you get fixated on this, guy

664
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: can't play. Once you get fixated on that, people don't

665
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: like to be wrong, right, They don't want it. They

666
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be wrong. And I'm like, boy, Kendle's

667
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: playing really well. He finally got an opportunity to get

668
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: in at They put him in a lineup I think

669
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: it was against the Colts, and look, Kendell gave up

670
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: some sacks. Kendall didn't wasn't perfect. His PFF number was

671
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: not off the charts. But Kendall played some pretty solid

672
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: football for this team at right tackle. Now, he was

673
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: limited in some of the things that he could do.

674
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget when Kendall got hurt in the

675
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: Denver game. He was out for one play and Kendall

676
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: was banged up. He I mean, it was it was

677
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: tough for him to get off the field. I thought

678
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: he was done for the day. He went back out

679
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: there the next series because what happened to play he

680
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: was out. Von Miller got his only sack of the day.

681
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: The only sack was when Kendall Lamb went to bench.

682
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: And I remember going on Twitter after the game kind

683
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: of going back through tweets. It's you know, three four

684
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: hours of tweets that I haven't seen, and I was

685
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: seeing people saying who to thunk it that when Kendall

686
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Lamb went out of the game, that we would be

687
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: panicking as to what was going to happen next. My

688
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: point in that is things can change, and they can

689
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: change rather abruptly. People, I think in twenty fifteen looked

690
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: at AJ Boya and we're like, look, you got Kevin Johnson,

691
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: you got John Joe, you got Kareem Jackson. What's Ajj's

692
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: not through the thing? That offseason? He's like, I'm gonna

693
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: show you that OTAs I'll never forget. He's going against

694
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: Hopkins and he's staying with him one on one. Then

695
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: he puts together a tremendous twenty sixteen season and it

696
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: led to him getting a huge contract contract with Jacksonville.

697
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: Is one of the top corners in the league. Things

698
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: can change. You put your mind to it, you put

699
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: the work to it. You're talented, and that was I

700
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: remember talking to AJ about this. He's like, you know,

701
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: I just I had to get my mind right. I

702
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: had to block everything else out. I had to focus

703
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: on what I had to do. Wu listening to the noise,

704
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: and I just did what I was coached to do

705
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. And look, I'm sure Juliana is

706
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: probably doing the same thing. I've got to tune out

707
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: the noise. I gotta listen to my coaching staff. I

708
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: gotta do what I am best at doing and do

709
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: it well to have an opportunity to play on this team.

710
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Things can change, players can change, players can get better.

711
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: And the flip side, that's also true. Just because the

712
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: guy had a great rookie year doesn't mean he's gonna

713
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: be great his entire career. And like we said, the

714
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: flip side is true, just because the guy struggled early

715
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: on doesn't mean he can't get better. I know people

716
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: in this town that just won't think about Jaivion Clowney.

717
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I won't even give him any credit for what he's

718
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: done because the first two years he was hurt banged

719
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: up in playing. They made up their minds about him

720
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and it's hard to change it. It's a great point,

721
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: and you can't change your mind. I think that was

722
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: my point. I'm davin Port that a lot of people

723
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: have figured nap it's not gonna work. Well, let's just see,

724
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: let's give it a minute here, and obviously they have

725
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: other options and many different possibilities on that offensive line collectively.

726
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: All right. John Pagano coaches outside linebackers for this team,

727
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: senior defensive assistant formerly with the then San Diego Chargers.

728
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: We caught up with him here in the Hunday, Texas

729
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: Radio studio. I wanted to ask him about that break

730
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: between mini camp and training camp and what he does,

731
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: because I find this interesting to the coaches. This is

732
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: their only real break of the year. I don't think

733
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: he really unplugged from it. I think that the day

734
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: to day stuff that you've been doing in the offseason,

735
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: but you never unplugged. You're always thinking about certain things

736
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: that you want to do during training camp, ideas that

737
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: you have to get your unich, you know, with the

738
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: outside linebackers be able to do different things, always thinking

739
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: of different types of drills that we can get used

740
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: to doing. And it's that daily routine. But you really,

741
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: you never really get away from it. You're always thinking

742
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: about it. You're thinking about your teaching progression from how

743
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: you want to introduce things from the install. You're always

744
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: working on those little things and then you know you

745
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: find time for your family. Coach, you've been around a game,

746
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: as Mark said, for a while, You've been to different places.

747
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: But now you're going into your second year here with

748
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: the Texans. How does that feel comfortability wise for you?

749
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: The first year you're still trying to figure out what

750
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: everything is, where you're gonna live, kids are gonna go.

751
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: How is it the second year? Oh, it's it's like

752
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: you've been here for a while. Yeah, you know, you

753
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: get into I think the biggest thing is is getting

754
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: into a routine. What time you're waking up, what time

755
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: you're getting here to the office, your daily routine, how

756
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: you're setting up your meeting, certain things like that where

757
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: you're heading for you know, last year when you come

758
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: in new you're where's this? Where are we going? Now?

759
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: What is this? And you know, you get accustomed to

760
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: the schedule that you have to, you know, get into

761
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: that daily grind. And that's what we try to do

762
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: with our players to get them, um, get them used

763
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: to doing those that same routine. And it's it's like

764
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: when we get out there an individual, you want those

765
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: same types of movement, those same types of skills. So

766
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: they're they're learning exactly what I want even more from

767
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: last year to be able to do the things that

768
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: we do out on the field. John Pagano with US

769
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: coaching outside linebackers. I always think of this as front seven.

770
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: You have all these guys who operate in the front

771
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: seven and there's a lot of different movement going on.

772
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: So how do you guys put that together collectively as coaches? Well,

773
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, everybody has that, you know, from the D

774
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: line to the inside linebackers, outside linebackers in that front seven.

775
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: But the scheme is all, you know, all built based

776
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: upon uh you know, how Romeo sets the defense up

777
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: and then you take what he says and you put

778
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: those you know, moving parts together and it's it's very multiple, uh,

779
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: you know in our front seven to where you need

780
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: guys that have the ability to drop into coverage and

781
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: be able to rush the pass or so it's been

782
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: good from this standpoint, even going into my second year

783
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: of of truly uh, really understanding the defense and then

784
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, just keep building off that from what we

785
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: did last year. Coach. Obviously, you have some veterans, but

786
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: then you get some young guys that come in, whether

787
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: they're rookies or they've they've been on the league for

788
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: little bit, they come here. What's the most difficult habit

789
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: to break for young players coming from college or coming

790
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: from somewhere else that you have to try and teach

791
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: them technique. What's the toughest habit for them to bring

792
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: getting down to the basics. You know, I'm a big

793
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: firm believer defensively of techniques, fundamentals and effort efforts, something

794
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: that that they can control by me, you know, making

795
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: sure that they understand what type of effort we need.

796
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: But the techniques and the fundamentals, and it starts with

797
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: basic stance, and it starts with basic footwork, and it's

798
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: those fundamentals and doing those drills every day to where

799
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: they get a custom how they need to step. The

800
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: game is it's such a game of angles, and it's

801
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: always taking that proper angle and just one little bad step.

802
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: So I think coming into the league for younger players,

803
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: it's always basically those those attention to detail technique assignments

804
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: of basic fundamentals of your footwork. And I think that's

805
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: something that you know, you got to work at every day,

806
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: and they're getting better at that. John Pagano with US

807
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: on Texans radio. Allow me to reminisce a little bit.

808
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: Sure you were on the cult staff that had Peyton

809
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Manning when he's a rookie. Yeah, So what was that

810
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: like being on Jim Morris staff then and seeing Manning

811
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: going through what he was going through. I know you

812
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: were a defensive assistant at the but you were there

813
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: obviously correct. Uh. It just see the growth just you

814
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: could from how he was day one, how he approached it, uh,

815
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: through you know, through coach Moore the offensive coordinator, to

816
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians being the quarterbacks coach. Uh, to see the

817
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: growth that he had, and and just his work ethic.

818
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean I remember being there late some nights and

819
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here he is walking down the hall.

820
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: He just got done with his film preparation, you know,

821
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: of his of his rookie year, and um, just seeing

822
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: that growth and and just how how smart, unbelievably smart

823
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: he was and just learning, uh, you know, seeing the

824
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: things and seeing the different things he did at practice.

825
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: It was it was, it was good. And it was

826
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: always know the being in the AFC, having the opportunity

827
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: to you know, play those teams. You just saw him

828
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: get better and better each and every time. Coach your

829
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: group outside linebackers, it can be a diverse group depending

830
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: on fronts, coverage is all that different kind of stuff.

831
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: But for you, what do you like about that group

832
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: and what's the one thing that you want to see

833
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: them get better at every day? Well, I just setting

834
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: our daily goals, techniques, fundamentals and effort and that and

835
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: that's something that we got to improve on every day.

836
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: And we go out there and we like to choose

837
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: one or two things that we're going to get better at,

838
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: and as we're walking off the field, we have an

839
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: understanding that did we improve on that today or did

840
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: we not do we need to keep working on those

841
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: certain things. And I think, you know, the basic fundamentals

842
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: of football can whether it's my stance, whether it's you know,

843
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: my get off today and my false step and do

844
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: I have the proper leverage? Do I have the proper

845
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, footwork? And I think the biggest thing coming

846
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: away is being able to set that edge. I think

847
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: the guys you know, really take it a pride and

848
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: passion on being edge setters, and that's something that we

849
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: have to do. We can't let the ball outside of us. Coach.

850
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. Good luck. All right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: There's John Pagano outside livebackers coach for your Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: All right, about a minute left in the show. And

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Speaker 1: obviously we opened up with that first segment answering your

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Speaker 1: questions about the general managers search, and we don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're all waiting to find out together. Cal McNair made

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Speaker 1: the move on Friday. He's got the power, he's got

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Speaker 1: the team, and he's gonna make the best decision for

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Speaker 1: this organization to move forward and get to a higher

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Speaker 1: level as well as they've done. And I'm a big

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Speaker 1: proponent of winning divisional titles and making it to the postseason.

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Speaker 1: And they're among the league leaders in this category over

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Speaker 1: the last four years and really over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: When you look at top ten in winning seasons, division titles,

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Speaker 1: playoff appearances, they're top ten in the league over the

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Speaker 1: last ten years. And here's the other thing, and we

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Speaker 1: can get into this tomorrow a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're dealing with the Golden State Warriors in the AFC. Basically,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the Patriots and since Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: has been the head coach here, you've had Denver and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots going to the Super Bowl from the AFC.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just been really rough to get there, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's am I leaving anybody out? No, no, all right, no,

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Speaker 1: there it is. It's been Broncos, it's been Patriots, but

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Speaker 1: it's you know, that's not an excuse. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: to that level. And that's what they're trying to do here,

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Speaker 1: and that's one of the big reasons why Cal has

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Speaker 1: decided to make that move. And they're gonna come up

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Speaker 1: with the best way to get somebody in here and

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Speaker 1: make the best decision possible for the franchise. Many can't

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Speaker 1: practice tomorrow. There will be plenty of talk about this

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Speaker 1: and other stuff, Bill O'Brien at the podium, players too,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get to it all tomorrow. Have a great night, everyone,

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Speaker 1: and go Texans.