1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter podcast. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm Jill Winteresting and today I have a guest who 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I think you're going to be very excited about, Selena Ayanna. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: She is the author of Becoming the One and she 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: is the founder of Rising Woman. You probably know her 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: from Instagram or from her work, and I can't wait 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: for you to hear this conversation where we dig deep 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: into her chart and uncover some of her potential this lifetime. 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Welcome Salina, Welcome to the podcast. Thanks so happy to 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: have you here. I feel like our work overlaps so 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: much and like the best way possible, and looking at 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: your chart is interesting. You have a lot of the 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: same placements as me, so I was like. 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: Heh. 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, your chart starts at twenty three degrees libra. Mine 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: starts at twenty two degrees libra. Interesting. Yeah, It's like 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: there's there's some interesting parallels and overlaps. But found it. 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: I found it fun. I'm not a sun an Aquarius though, 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: I'm a Leo, so I'm like the opposite side of 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: the wheel. Yeah, but we'll get into your chart. We'll 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: get into you know what you do, Rising Woman. It's 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: all written here so it's always nice. Like when I 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: look at a chart, most of the charts I look at, 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can see what you do written in 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: your chart. It's nice. Glad astrology works out like that 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: makes my job easy. I don't have to force anything 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: or start any thing. But okay, how much I know 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: you know a lot about your chart, But how much 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: do you know about your chart? That's what I always ask. 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I always love just kind of starting fresh 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: and hearing it from a different perspective. I mean, you know, 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: rising Woman, we had a big astrology branch for a 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: long time. We load astrology courses, we have a we 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: have an astrology app called mystic App. So I've been 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: down the arabbit hole with my chart quite a lot. 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: But you know, the different systems, there's slightly different placements. 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: Like in all signs, I have my moon in the 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: first house, and then in other charts, in. 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Especially Invade, it's in the twelfth house. So m hmm, yeah, 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: I use placidus interpretation, right, And so I just found 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: because I look at them a lot in whole sign 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: and we actually have an astrologer who works with spirit 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: chatter who uses whole sign and so I have really 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: fun debates with her versus whole sign versus. This is 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: what astrologers do for fun, and which interpretation are you using? 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: I just find that Placidus for my chart, and for 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the charts I've looked at is like 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: just hits the nail on the head, and so the 49 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: whole sign I feel like, is great. It's like neat 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: and clean for like horoscopes, and when like I'm writing 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: the horoscopes and the moon work books and things like that, 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: when we're doing like Instagram posts, like we go off 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: a rising sign and we do whole house interpretation for those. 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: But for the most part, when I'm like digging in 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: and to you know, personal astrology and like chart readings, 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: they use placidus. And I also just like to look at, 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, every degree of the chart. So I'm not 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: one of those people that is like, oh, you know, 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: you're a Libra rising so your chart starts with twenty 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: three years Libra and Libra rules your entire first house. 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: It's like nope, you've got Scorpio in there, and you 62 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: actually have Pluto in your first house in Scorpio, which 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: for you and like that tracks that makes a lot 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: of sense, so it's really helpful to what I know 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: the person or I'm getting to know the person, and 66 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, it's like reinforcement that, like Placidus is 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: the one for me. I've always really liked the blend, 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, and the. 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: Most fascinating astrology readings that I've had, and like the 70 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: deep dives that I've had are kind of like a blend, 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: you know. I don't really subscribe to like one system 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: as being the best system. What I learned is that 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: each system is sort of good for what it's good for, 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: you know, and like you've kind of figured out what 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: yours as good for, and then when you're doing you know, 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: like the composite charts or sinistry charts, you might want 77 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: to blend them. 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. 79 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: It's such a fascinating path and I think you can 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: pull something from all of them. But I do tend 81 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: to resonate more when people say, you know, your moon 82 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: is in the twelfth house and here's what that looks 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: like versus moon in the first house, even though both 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: could resonate so right. 85 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And I like to really look at it too, 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: because I look at like the current sky. Like we 87 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: were talking earlier about your career, and your jubiter is 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: going to enter Leo one twenty ninth, and your mid 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: heaven and Placidus is at zero degrees Leo, and so 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: that is your career. That is the point of your chart. 91 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: That's the highest that everybody sees, and it starts to 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: write at zero degrees Leo. So you're an initiator in 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of ways in the work you do. Like 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: anything you would do, whether it was writing or anything else, 95 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: you're an initiator because you have that zero degrees right 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: at the mid heaven. And I think that really, like again, 97 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: just hits the nail on the head for you. And 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Jupiter is going to cross that immediately as soon as 99 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: it enters Leo and it's going to light up your 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: tenth house. And so Jupiter will transit your tenth house 101 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: all of next year, and so it should be one 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: of the most abundant and beneficial and expansive times for 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: you in your career. It's something to get really excited about. 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: And like I said, we have very similar placements, and 105 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: so Jupiter is also going to be transitting my tenth 106 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: house and I'm like very excited, and so you should 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: get very excited about that. How long is that happening 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: for it will be the entire year, So it will 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: go from June twenty ninth when Jupiter enters Leo, which 110 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: is the thirtieth for some parts of the world depending 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: on your time zone, and then it lasts until July 112 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: end of July twenty twenty seven, thirteen months. So it's 113 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: thirteen months. And I was actually talking to somebody else, 114 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine who has Jupiter and Leo, 115 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: and he's like, so you're telling me this is like 116 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: everything's aligned and teed up for me and if I like, 117 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: don't step into this like opportunities. He has a big 118 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: opportunity in front of him. He's like, I just, you know, 119 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: really missed the mark. And I'm like, well, I don't 120 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: think you can ever miss the mark, but you do. 121 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: You are like all teed up, like everything has been 122 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: a ligning for you career wise. If you have you know, 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: Jupiter in the ten you know, if you have Leo 124 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: in the tenth house in Jubiter is gonna be transiting it. 125 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: Everything's been like lining up for you for years because 126 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: this often starts, you know ten you know, maybe even 127 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: ten years ago, like things have just been lining up 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: for you, and so for this to happen because it's 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: in every twelve year transit, you know, it takes Jupiter 130 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: twelve years to go through all the signs, and so 131 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: you know it'll spend it spends time like lining up 132 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: each one. And so this time with Jupiter transiting your 133 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: tenth House and Leo, you know you're set up for it, 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: like you've been setting up for it consciously, subconsciously, energetically. However, 135 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: we want to roll that dice, you know, for years. 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: So you know, I hope you feel that and take 137 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: that opportunity and seize it because Jupiter only transits your 138 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: tenth House once every twelve years, and so you know, 139 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: grab it. Their launches in there. 140 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: I have a book launch in August, and then I 141 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: have another book launch in February twenty twenty seven, and 142 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: then I have another book launch in July. 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: So it's all perfect, very good, very good. Yeah. I 144 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: was seeing the other day I launched my book in March, 145 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, maybe I should have waited until 146 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Jupiter if I did that, But no, it all, it 147 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: all happens. Another one just write another one. Yeah. Yeah, 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. That book's evolving into its own 149 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: it's on its own path. So it's really interesting, and 150 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of I'm like, oh, that's great. I kind 151 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: of put it out the perfect time so that it 152 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: can do its evolution and we'll see what happens while 153 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, Jupiter's and Leo in my tenth House with 154 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: it totally. 155 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Grating Sweetgrass is one of my favorite books. 156 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever read Braiding Sweet Grass 157 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: by Robin Wallkimmer and her book. I think it was 158 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: published for seven years before it hit the New York 159 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Times bestsellers list. 160 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: Wow, So you just never know, you know. 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: That's the cool thing about books is that they have 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: life for their own and you never know when it's 163 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: their time to shine. 164 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Or I think Wild was. It was out 165 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: for three years and then it hit the New York 166 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Times because of the movie. And so it's just interesting 167 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: how these things take a life of their own. But 168 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. So you have three launches happening 169 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: while Jupiter is transitting your Tenth House's. I don't know 170 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: if you time that that way, but that's very good timing. 171 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I sort of did. I did have some consultation, 172 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: and I also just I had art. I just created 173 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: all of these things. And the thing about children's books 174 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: is they take like twice maybe three. 175 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,239 Speaker 1: Times as long to publish. 176 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: So I got a book deal for those two children's 177 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: books when my daughter was a baby. Wo she'll be 178 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: over four basically, she'll be four in October, and then 179 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: I would be like four and a half by the 180 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: time the next one is out. So it just is 181 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: a really long long launch. 182 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: Long process. So they take longer than kind of just 183 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: a regular. 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: Book, way longer. Well, you know, if you think about it, 185 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: there's the illustrations. Yeah, the illustrator, and then that takes time. 186 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: You also have to use non toxic materials, like everything 187 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 2: has to be very intentionally sourced because kids. 188 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: Like my books. Oh yeah, my kids in the regulation. Yeah, 189 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: especially with their babies. They're you know, four and almost 190 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: seven now, and so they don't they don't really eat 191 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: them anymore. But when they have babies, they were just 192 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: like not all on them, and they're not all on everything, 193 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: those children, so exactly. Okay, so let's look at your 194 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: chart here. We already established Leo Libra rising. So you 195 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: have Libra rising, you have your Moon and Libra and 196 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: the twelve, which I again I think tracks for you 197 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: better than you know your first house. You have Pluto 198 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: and Scorpio in your first house, which I think also 199 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: tracks for you. And so basically, libra is how we 200 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: enter a space. It's how we meet the world. It's 201 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: how the world meets us. And people immediately meet that 202 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: libre presence about you, that calmness, and I don't know 203 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: if you've probably heard many times in your life that 204 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: you're calm, you have a calm voice, You're like centered, 205 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: you're balanced. You come off as a very balanced person. 206 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that you are a balance person if 207 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: my husband would have disay about that, But that's how 208 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: you appear to everyone else upon first meeting. Or your voice, 209 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: like I hear that a lot. People love my voice. 210 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: That's why I have the meditation app because people are like, 211 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: I just want to listen to your voice while I'm meditating, 212 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: and so that all the time as well. Yeah, exactly, 213 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: And that's a very libre rising thing. Like you have 214 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: a calming presence, you have a calming voice. People immediately 215 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: are like drawn to you because they feel that you're 216 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: centered and grounded, and you know, with your Libra moon, 217 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: you do have that emotional stability within you as well, 218 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: that balance in your moon and in the twelve House, 219 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: it means you're really connected emotionally and intuitively to higher realms, 220 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: to spirituality. So I like to call the twelve House 221 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: like the cave house. And so we go into the 222 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: cave and we can connect to the universe and we 223 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: can download what we need, and that is a direct 224 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: connection with your emotions and your intuition. And so you 225 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: have this direct connection, which again I was like, yes, 226 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: that totally tracks for what I know about you. And 227 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: then you know that feeds into that Libra rising. And 228 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: so people immediately upon meeting you perceive that. They're like, oh, wow, 229 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: she's connected, she's calm, and she's connected. And then they 230 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: meet that Puto and Scorpio also in the first house, 231 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: which is your house of identity, and they're like, oh, 232 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: she can transform me. And so that means that, I mean, 233 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a tall order. You know, people like 234 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: meet you, they come in contact with you, and they're like, 235 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: she could change my life. Just grounded, just connected and 236 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: like she has the ability to like see right through 237 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: me and change my life. You know, some people don't 238 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: like that at all. I'll tell you some people don't 239 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: like that at all. I completely understand. I also have 240 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: Pluto U in Scorpio in my first house with the 241 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: Libre rising, and then my moon is in Scorpio as well. 242 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: And I've always like, as I was when I was younger, 243 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I was like, why do people not like me? Like 244 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: nobody likes me? And I realized as I got older 245 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: and did a lot of spiritual work that like, my 246 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: energy could be almost too confrontational, not like in an 247 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: aggressive way, not like I'm saying anything confrontational, but just 248 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: being that mirror for other people when they're not ready 249 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: to stare at that reflection can be really challenging for 250 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: some people, especially in their twenties. Now that like I'm 251 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: older and the people around me are older, I have 252 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot more friends. But I think that some people 253 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: can feel intimidated by that type of energy that they're like, 254 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: oh wow, she can see right through me. She can 255 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: see the depths of my soul and places that I 256 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: can't even access, and like this makes me uncomfortable. Totally. Yeah, 257 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: But It also is what makes you you and the 258 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: founder of Rising Woman, and it informs your writing and 259 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: your work and everything you do is that ability to 260 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: understand humans at a very deep level and transform them. 261 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: So you have that ability, and then you have this 262 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: son in Aquarius, which is very different. It's a very 263 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: different energy the Sun and Aquarius can be a very 264 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: mental energy. So like in your head a lot of thinking, 265 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: you also have your mercury stationed retrograde next to your 266 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: son about six degrees away, all in your fourth house. 267 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: And so I mercury retrograde, Natalie just means that your 268 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: mind kind of spiral, so you go over things two, three, 269 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: four times. You don't think in a linear fashion. You 270 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: actually go a couple passes around something and each time 271 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: see it from a different angle until you finally get 272 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: the solution or the integration or the processing or whatever 273 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: it is you need from that spiral. And so there 274 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: is that that gift really that mercury retrograde Natally brings 275 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: that you can process things at a much cheaper level 276 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: and have really deep communication with yourself and through journaling 277 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: or whatever means that you use. You have that all 278 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: in Aquarius, which means you can take that and then 279 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: put it outside the box then see how you can 280 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: evolve yourself forward, your life path forward, and other people's 281 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: life path forward. Yeah, and so that's what that's Sun 282 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: and Aquarius. I thought it was interesting that this is 283 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: in the fourth house, which is the house of the family, 284 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: and so there's signature in your chart that is here 285 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: to rewrite the definition of family and what family actually means. 286 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: And even just like knowing you and knowing how you're 287 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: like building a family with your partner, and you know conscious. 288 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: I know you talk about conscious relationships, but I always 289 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: think of you as talking about conscious parenting too, since 290 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: we met in a mama group, But that conscious part 291 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: of bringing it to parenting and saying, Okay, I'm going 292 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: to create a different family than what I had in childhood. 293 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to create a different family than what I 294 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: had in previous lifetimes as well. I'm going to rewrite 295 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: the script on what family is for me and even 296 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: for other people. 297 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back after a quick break. I 298 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: love that, and so much of it too for me 299 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: is about understanding chosen family and community and those threads 300 00:15:59,400 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: for people. 301 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And that's what you know Aquarius the 302 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: Sun and Aquarius fourth house. It really teaches us that 303 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: family isn't just tied to blood right. Family can be 304 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: a sole family. Family can be the people who show 305 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: up for you when you need in the most. Family 306 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: can exist in different states, even in different countries. You know, 307 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different definitions of family, and so 308 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: your chart is really here to rewrite them. And then 309 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: the family you have, the foundation you have, including your 310 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: partner and your child, are all part of that journey 311 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: of rewriting what family looks like, Yeah, I love that 312 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: and so and so you have that in there. And 313 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: then you have a lot of placements as we were 314 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: talking in your third house, so you have two placements 315 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: and Sagittarius at twenty nine degrees, so that's the last 316 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: degree of the sign. And that really means that you're 317 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: here this lifetime to kind of wrap up that teaching, like, Okay, 318 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: you've spent lifetime studying Sagittarius energy, which is the energy 319 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: of the teacher, the philosopher, the one who goes out 320 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: and crosses borders and mingles and interacts with different cultures 321 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: to kind of bring that knowledge and wisdom back and 322 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: then to teach it. So a lot of people think 323 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: of Sagittarius as the wanderer and the traveler. I think 324 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: of Sagittarius as the teacher, right, it's the true mark 325 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: of the teachers. The tucher expands their consciousness and understands 326 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: things that no one else can and then distills them 327 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: in a way that other people can get, that other 328 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: people can integrate and digest. And so you have Saturn 329 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: and your honest conjunct. So they're both exact. They're on 330 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: top of each other at twenty nine degrees Sagittarius and 331 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: I thought this was really interesting because they are the 332 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: rulers of Aquarius. And so the rulers of Aquarius, which 333 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: is Saturn, you know, the rule like following the commitments, 334 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: following the rules of society, the regulations, and then Uranus 335 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: comes in and says, okay, how can we break those 336 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: or how can we bend them? At least try I 337 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: get this question all the time. People are like, how 338 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: does Saturn and Uranus like both fit with Aquarius. I'm like, well, 339 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: Saturn tells everybody the rules and Uranus tells everybody how 340 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: to break them. Then you have Aquarius. That's about right, 341 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: and so, but they are conjunct in your chart, which 342 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: is a generational everybody in born in the year nineteen 343 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: eighty eight had that conjunction, but yours is exact at 344 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: twenty nine degrees and so, and then you also have 345 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: that sun in Aquarius, and so this can be a 346 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: huge unlock for your son and even for your mercury 347 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: retrograde because that's also an Aquarius. So I always look 348 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: to the planetary rulers of the sign to see, Okay, 349 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: what's going to unlock the fullest potential? So what's going 350 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: to unlock the fullest potential of your son in Aquarius? 351 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: And that's understanding this Saturn and this Uranus conjunction in 352 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Sagittarius at twenty nine degrees. So it's really about understanding, Okay, 353 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: what are the paradigms of teaching, What are the rules 354 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: quote unquote of teaching? What are the ways people have 355 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: done it before? What are the beliefs or limitations limiting 356 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: beliefs around teaching? Right? What are the current paradigms we're 357 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: working with here? And then how can I disrupt them? 358 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: How can I disrupt those containers? How can I disrupt 359 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: those paradigms of teaching in a way that is unique 360 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: to me. Now we're in the third house that uses 361 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: my voice and then incomes everything you write. I mean, 362 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: do you feel like the books that you write do disrupt? 363 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they do, but from your perspective, 364 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: disrupt patterns in other people that they have been taught, 365 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, either from society or they've been taught from 366 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: childhood from caregivers. Like how do you view do you 367 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: view your work and your writing as you know, under 368 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: that umbrella of being a disruptor in a good way? 369 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I suppose I would. I suppose that's a 370 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: way that you could describe it. And I definitely am 371 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: always encouraging my readers to go another level, go another 372 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: layer deep and ask yourself, you know, okay, that's the story, 373 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: what's underneath that? And what's underneath that? And what's underneath that? 374 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: And where did that come from? And why is that 375 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: so for you? And what do you actually want for 376 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: your life? And how could you move into that? And 377 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: sometimes that's looking at the you know, mother father relationships. 378 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's looking at those unspoken soul contracts and the 379 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: ancestral relationships and all of it. 380 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like there's a piece of your 381 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: chart that's your to communicate. Okay, look at your patterns, 382 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: look at the rules you're following for whatever reason, and 383 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: that's maybe not break them, but bend them at least. 384 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: Let's question them, Let's find their origin, let's see if 385 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: they're serving us, because I feel like so many of 386 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: us live by these patterns that we were taught, maybe 387 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: even from people in situations and we've never even been in. 388 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Like so much we learn as a kid is passed 389 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: down to us, and it's like, wow, I'm not even 390 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I've never even been in that type of situation, nor 391 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: will I ever be. But yet I have this pattern 392 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: that if X happens, I'm going to do HY And 393 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of your work, of what you do, 394 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: is to go in and say, let's question those patterns. 395 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Let's look at those patterns, and let's see if we 396 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: need to form new patterns and break the old ones. 397 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 2: And even just the way that we live as a 398 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: society and the things that we view as normal in 399 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 2: how we mother or how we do community, all of it. 400 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: You know, where are you living based on how you 401 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: were told you should live? And where can you step 402 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: out of that and just be more more alive, more expressed. 403 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, spoken like a true son and Aquarius. Yeah, 404 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: it can get really quirky for sure. 405 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 406 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: I always wondered if that's like being a Leo's son, 407 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: like on the other side of the wheel, what's it 408 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: like to be Aquarius. 409 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty fun sometimes it's definitely wacky. And I think 410 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: what surprises people when they actually get to know me 411 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: is how goofy I am. And it's like, I'm really 412 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: just silly and playful and yeah, trying not to take 413 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: life too seriously. Kind of goes in between the two 414 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: of like everything feeling really heavy and like the world 415 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: feeling like a lot, and then going into the play. 416 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and then looking even deeper at 417 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: your partnerships. You have Jupiter right on the descendant, so 418 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: it's at twenty four degrees aries directly opposite. You're Libra rising, 419 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: and so we talk so much about Ascendant, but I 420 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: feel like we don't talk that much about descendant. Descendant 421 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways, what we're reaching for, 422 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: what we're attracted to, almost like, not what we feel 423 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: like we're missing, but we feel like we kind of 424 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: need in this lifetime to really evolve. And so for you, 425 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: you have Jupiter right there in seventh House, the House 426 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: of partnerships, and so you have a soul that came 427 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: in this world saying, oh wow, I need to learn 428 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: through my partnerships. They are my reflection, they are my mirror, 429 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: and they're going to be my greatest expansion because that's Jupiter. 430 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: They're going to bring me the greatest expansion, and they're 431 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: also going to hold space for my fire. They're going 432 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: to support my fire. They're going to support me in 433 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: being quote unquote too much and taking up the space 434 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I deserve. And I know you talk so much about 435 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: your conscious relationship, and so how would you think that 436 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: like feeds into that. I think all of my relationships 437 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: up until this point have been major teachers for me, 438 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: and even you know, beyond the romantic relationships, even familial relationships, 439 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: it's all centered around learning through those experiences rather than being. 440 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: A victim to those experiences. So it's very much felt 441 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: like life school. My mother is obviously one of my 442 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 2: most complex relationships where I'm more of the mother and 443 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: she's more of the daughter. And yet I feel as 444 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: though that's exactly what my soul came here for. It's 445 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: exactly what I came here to learn, and it's what's 446 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: shaped me to be able to do this work. And 447 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: on the romantic level, I mean, it's just ever evolving always. 448 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: There's just every every day, every year there's a new level. 449 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: You know, my partner and my husband and I we've 450 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: been together for about eleven years. 451 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Now, and it just we just keep learning through each other. 452 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: And we're both very similar, so a lot of times 453 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: partners have some like opposition going on, and we do 454 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: have that in terms of our nervous system and our 455 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 2: way of being, Like I'm much more of a feeler 456 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: and he's much more of a thinker. But yeah, we're 457 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: very similar. We're both very stubborn, so it can get annoying. 458 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: Tell me how you really feel, but you're learning and 459 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: growing and it's so wonderful. 460 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: I know. 461 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like one of those memes where I just 462 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: want to call it the universe and be like I'd 463 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: like the not learning menu right now. Yeah, I have 464 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I have like a r alter ego. 465 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: Named Hagrid, and I'm like, I'm just gonna go be 466 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: Hagrid and just live in the woods, like tits out, barefooted, 467 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: just everything alone. 468 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: This is my life now, you know. I'm done. I'm done. 469 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: It's funny because that's that I always say. That's kind 470 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: of like the shadow side of Aquarius is that they 471 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: can just like give society the middle finger and be like, 472 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: I'm just want to go live in the woods, and 473 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: you guys figure it out, like I actually have all 474 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: the answers, but you don't want to listen to me, 475 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: so af you I'm going to live in the woods 476 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: by myself. How funny. You know. That's totally always been 477 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: my thing. 478 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 2: My my thing is whenever I get frustrated or overwhelmed 479 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: to the point where I'm just I'm just at it. 480 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: My first thought is like just disappear into the woods, 481 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: you know, And we do. We live in the forest. 482 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: We live on ten acres in the woods, but I 483 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: live with my family. And I'll say having since having 484 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: a daughter, that mindset has changed, because it's like one 485 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: thing to be like leaving your husband in the dust. 486 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind. 487 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you're really in your shadow, like you can 488 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: kind of comprehend that. But now that I have a daughter, 489 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: it's like my mind doesn't really go there anymore. 490 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I'm a Leo's son and 491 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm married to a Leo man, so I understand. And 492 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, I'm just better on my own, but 493 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: I have two kids, and I'm like, I guess I can. 494 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: I can't, you know, but your chart you're here to learn, 495 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, you're very You're here to learn and expand. 496 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's like the key is like you're 497 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: here to expand through partnerships. And I think it's so 498 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: important what you said about your mother. I think it's 499 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: so freeing when you do you have a complex mother 500 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: to say, while my soul chose this on some level, 501 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: I chose this for my growth, I chose this for 502 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: my evolution. I'm not a victim. You know. I can 503 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: leave therapy now, or at least stop saying like, at 504 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: least stop blaming my mother for everything in the entire world, 505 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, and really kind of just like own that decision, 506 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: which came on an energetic level and can be really 507 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: hard to wrap our heads around, but it's so freeing 508 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: when we really can understand that and just be like, Wow, 509 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: as hard as this was, and how I may have 510 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: wanted something different, like I chose this on a soul 511 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: level because this is what my soul ultimately needed this lifetime. 512 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: And maybe I'll choose something differently next lifetime, but until then, 513 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to, you know, work with my choices at 514 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: this level. Yeah. Absolutely, And so I do think it 515 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: is freeing. And then looking at your fifth house because 516 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: we talked a little b about that, so house of creativity. 517 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: You have your North node and Pisces there, and your 518 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: Venus in Pisces as well, and so this is a 519 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: really nice placement. Having Venus in your fifth house in 520 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Pisces just gives you the poet write that poet energy. 521 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: And this is probably where a lot of your writing 522 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: comes from, is that you're connected to your heart, to 523 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: what you love, to what you find beautiful. And then 524 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: you pair that or theme it with Pisces, which allows 525 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: you to kind of connect with the universe on a 526 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: deeper level and allows you to connect with your spirituality. 527 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: And then you put it in your fifth house, and 528 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: now we have your creative expression. And so when I 529 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: think about your writing, guess all these you know, the 530 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: teachers there, the rule breaker, the pattern disruptor, you know, 531 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: the sun and Aquarius making people think all the box, 532 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: or at least encouraging them to. But then when I 533 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: really get to the heart of your writing, I'm like, oh, 534 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: there it is that Venus and Pisces in the fifth 535 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: house is where the beauty comes from that you create 536 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: and you put out into the world. And so that's 537 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: a really lovely placement. And then paired with the North node, 538 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: that's what you're ultimately here to learn to step into 539 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: and to grow into and to leave behind the lower 540 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: energies of the self. Note in Virgo, which is about perfectionism, 541 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: which is about control, which is about you know, when 542 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: we're in a creative process, like we have to surrender 543 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: on a certain level, we can't control the outcome. Do 544 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: you find there was like a point in your life 545 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: where that kind of Virgo energy took over from your 546 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: self node where you grew a little controlling or a 547 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: bit of a perfectionist or try to you know, do 548 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: the details and define things a little too much. Oh yeah, 549 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean. 550 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: Especially before having a child, Like my whole house had 551 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: to be you know, perfect, and you know, I wouldn't 552 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: let people come over for dinner unless everything was just so. 553 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: And I mean even you know, in the early days 554 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: of Rising Women, I had all of these rules for 555 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: color palettes and like I would never post certain colors, 556 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: like even if it was just like an accent in 557 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: the photo wasn't allowed, and you know, it was really tight. 558 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: And that's loosened up in a big way, you know. 559 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: And I think it's just part of that is maturity 560 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: and age and then also motherhood just you just don't 561 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: have the capacity to anymore. You're like just yeah, shit's everywhere, 562 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: come on over, this is life. 563 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, especially the house with motherhood, it's like, yeah, 564 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: it'll be like pristinely clean. And then my kids. I 565 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: have two boys, so it takes them all about two 566 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: minutes to like wreck the entire place. And I'm like 567 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: to do that so quickly and efficiently. You know, now 568 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: you're wrestling on the table. Great another it's another life 569 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: with the two boys. It's yeah, I can only imagine. 570 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: I know. I always say, I'm like, this is really 571 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: because I did so much work in the spiritual realm 572 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: and meditation and breath work, and I was a yoga teacher, 573 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I've done so much spiritual work 574 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like nothing has tested me like having two 575 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: boys and like having to keep my center and calmness 576 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: and regulation and it's it's it's challenging. Kids are challenging, 577 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: but they are also mirrors and also help you grow 578 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: and trigger you in ways that they no one else will. 579 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, that my daughter has been my greatest spiritual 580 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: teacher so far, right, in so many ways. 581 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And it'll just keep going. I'll 582 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: just keep going. So but yeah, geming back to your 583 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: fifth house. Did you know you're in a nodal return 584 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: You're about to complete it? Do you know that? Is no, 585 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, So the current nodes they're 586 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: about to shift, will shift the end of July into 587 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: Leon Aquarius, but the currently the time is recording anyway. Uh, 588 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: the north note is in Pisces, where your north note is, 589 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: and the south note is in Vigo, where your self 590 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: note is. So you're in no return, which happens every 591 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: like eighteen to nineteen years, and so this is pretty 592 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: important transit and it's the time to make like huge 593 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: leaps on your noble paths. So we're always walking from 594 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: south node to north node, which for you is giving 595 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: up control and surrendering to the process, giving up some 596 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: perfectionism and really embracing your true identity within your creative expression, 597 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: which is themed by Pisces. And so this last you know, year, 598 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: year and a half has been about that journey and 599 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: making a huge leap on that journey into your creative 600 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: expression and into understanding that you don't need to control everything. 601 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: You don't need to control all the out you know, 602 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: all the outcomes and you don't need to ask an 603 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: outside authority either, right, everything comes from within that direct 604 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: connection to you. And now a quick word from our 605 00:32:51,920 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: wonderful sponsors. So how has that gone for? I mean, 606 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: it sounds like you've done a lot of projects in 607 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: the last year, set some things up, So yeah, you 608 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: think it was like part of that notal return or 609 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: have there been other things? 610 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I've always been very creative, That's 611 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: been a part of my life forever. But stepping into 612 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: writing the children's books has felt like a big homecoming 613 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: within myself. It's been something that I wanted to do 614 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: since I was little, and so there does seem to 615 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: be a sense of resting in my essence with these 616 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh, it's finally happening and it's all 617 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: just coming to fruition and. 618 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: Children too, so that yes aligned, yeah, yeah, children. 619 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: You know, And I think I had an astrologer once 620 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: say to me, like, you have so much energy, creative 621 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: energy in your chart that you'll either have ten kids 622 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: or you need to just keep working, because yeah, like 623 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: there's just a lot of creativity there, and that feels 624 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: correct for me. You know, I only have one child. 625 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm only planning on having one child, and all of 626 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: my other. 627 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: Babies are my books. 628 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's what I want to dedicate my life too, 629 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: is you know, my daughter and my family and my books. 630 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's great. And I think that you know, 631 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: it really does speak to that fifth house and the 632 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: creative expression is in children's books. I mean we're like 633 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: on the nose here. 634 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: Yea. 635 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: I love it. And you know, you've been setting this 636 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 1: up for a while, probably during your Nodle return, and 637 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: it's a way to really like step into one of 638 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: your highest expressions, one of your highest creative expressions through 639 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: through writing. There is a ton of creativity. There's a 640 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: ton of writing here, a ton of voice here in 641 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: your chart, and a ton of teaching. And there's also 642 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: a wound around the voice with your Chiron in Gemini 643 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: in the eighth House. And so Chiron is the deepest 644 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: wound in our chart. It often comes through childhood or 645 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: we can bring it in from previous lifetimes. And with 646 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: Chiron and Gemini, this is a wound around the voice. 647 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: This is a wound around using your voice, especially as 648 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: a kid, kind of being told you were too much, 649 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: or even being dismissed. I've talked to some people with 650 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: Chiron in Gemini where they were just not they weren't understood, 651 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: or they said something and they weren't heard correctly, or 652 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: they were just ignored. And so it creates this wound 653 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: around the voice and using your voice. And now this 654 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: is in the eighth House, which is a very deep house. 655 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: This is the house of transformation, the house of personal 656 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 1: and growth. And so this is a rather deep wound 657 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: that actually can sit at the base and the foundation 658 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: of all your transformation. And so when I look at Chyon, 659 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, there's the wound, but there's also the medicine, 660 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: and there's also the teaching, and so in a lot 661 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: of ways, you know, I think your work is about tea, 662 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: teaching particularly women how to use their voice in spaces. 663 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: They've never used them before because eight house kind of 664 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: speaks to these types of spaces, these intimate spaces in 665 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: very intimate partnerships, intimate relationships even with themselves, and the 666 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: growth aspect, and so really teaching others how to use 667 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: their voice in a way that it's healing to them. 668 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: But then as you teach, you also heal your own wound. 669 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: So that's the gift Hiron. And so you know, do 670 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: you feel like that's like really shown up throughout your 671 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: early childhood and through like when you were younger before 672 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: you started writing, Like, did you feel that wound and 673 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: did you understand that there was medicine in that pain? 674 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean when I was really really young, I don't 675 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: think I understood that yet. 676 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: You know. 677 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know much of my story, 678 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: but I grew up in and out of foster homes, 679 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: and I was out on my own at sixteen. Like 680 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: by the time I was twelve, I was, you know, 681 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 2: word of the government, and sixteen I was just fully 682 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: out on my own. So there was for sure a 683 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: feeling of being out on my own and kind of 684 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: cast away, and there was a dismissive quality to my 685 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: interactions with a lot of adults and teachers, of course, 686 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: because especially back in that time, you know, in like 687 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: the nineties in the early two thousands, like there was 688 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 2: a lot of judgment toward you know, kids who were 689 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: in foster care. It was just apparently their fault, you know, 690 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: they never questioned like what the parents' involvement was. 691 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, well, you must be a bad kid. 692 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: And so that was sort of the judgment that was 693 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 2: cast upon me throughout my early years when I would 694 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 2: be interacting, you know, at school or whatever. 695 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: So I definitely felt that for sure. And when did 696 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: you realize that, you know, healing, can this voice wound 697 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: could actually become your medicine for others? 698 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: You know, I started writing in my early twenties. I 699 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: started writing in my early I mean I was before that, 700 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: but really sharing it with the internet that happened in 701 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: my early twenties. Yeah, And at that point I was 702 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: probably like twenty one when I started writing, And it 703 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: was around then where I really started to feel that 704 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: pulse of aliveness as I would share and feel the 705 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: calling to put my work out. And you know, of 706 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 2: course in my early twenties, it was like very fiery 707 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: and rebellious and just you know that energy. And you know, 708 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: as I've gotten older, it's shifted and become more gentle. 709 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: But it's been an evolution. Yeah, yeah, it seems. I mean, 710 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 2: this is something you'll evolve with. 711 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: Eighth House is transformation evolution, and with Chiron, we just 712 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: evolved with it throughout our entire lives. It's not like 713 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: we ever get rid of the wound. We just evolve it. 714 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: And you know that's the story of Chiron, like the 715 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: wounded healer could never heal, so it became a because 716 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: he understood pain so much, and so he turned his 717 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: suffering into medicine for others. And so that really shows, 718 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, something in our chirun placement, which is like, Okay, 719 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: this is the wound, and we may always have it, 720 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: we may always carry, but we don't have to suffer 721 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: because of it, and we actually can heal in process 722 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: while we're healing others, so we don't have to be 723 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: we don't have to heal the voice wound in order 724 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: to provide healing for others with their voice. So you know, 725 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: and it's interesting because I look at your chart and yes, 726 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: I see a lot of creativity, but I see this 727 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: teacher and this voice signature coming through really loud and clear, 728 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: and that you're a teacher. Yes, you're a creative teacher. 729 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: Yes you're connected to Pisces. Yes you have a lot 730 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: of intuition, you've got your moon in your twelve house. 731 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: But at the very heart of your chart, you are 732 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 1: a teacher, and you do it in a very creative way. 733 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: You're a teacher. And yes, that Son and Aquarius is 734 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: going to say, let's leave it all for you know this, 735 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: that other thing. But you know, I think you'll continually 736 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: choose to keep showing up for the collective, which is 737 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: the true mission of the Son and Aquarius, right, people 738 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: with their Son Aquarius is their mission to be the 739 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 1: thought leaders of this planet of society and to keep 740 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: showing up even though they're like, I have it, I 741 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: have the puzzle figured out, guys, and you know you're 742 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: not listening because in a lot of ways, you know, 743 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: the people with their Son and Aquarius are the first, right, 744 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 1: they're the first to figure things out. They're the first 745 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: to see the future, that they shape the future, they 746 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: invent the future, and so they're very misunderstood. But they 747 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: need to continually keep showing up to teach, to teach 748 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: others their visions and so like that's really what I 749 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: see here is this mark of a teacher with these 750 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: you have three placements and sad you have three placements 751 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: in the third house. You have this Chiron and Gemini 752 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: in the eighth house, and so you're very much a teacher. 753 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: You have your Mars in Sagittarius in the second house. 754 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: So that makes you an honest teacher, which is great 755 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: because you know Mars, Mars and Sagittarius in the second 756 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: house is like, oh, you have to actually live your values. 757 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: You have to walk your talk right or else it's 758 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 2: not going to work at all. No, I can't even 759 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: write if I'm not feeling aligned. Yeah, it has to be. 760 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: I have to feel in alignment and integrity with what 761 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm what I'm sharing. 762 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: And it's not that. 763 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: I have to be at that stage of what I'm 764 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: writing about, but I have to feel that it's truly integrated. 765 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I use the example of you know, 766 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 2: you just you have a breakthrough and then the next 767 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 2: moment you're on Instagram sharing the breakthrough. 768 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: That for me is not the way. 769 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: It's definitely like there's there's an alchemical process that needs 770 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: to occur before I feel right about transmitting anything. 771 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you have to be aligned to feel motivated 772 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: and to teach. And the second house of the house 773 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: a value is also finance and abundance, So like your 774 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: abundance is actually tied to your integrity here where you 775 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: have to be you know, live your truth. Right. Sagittarius 776 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: is the truth giver, right, That's part of that teaching 777 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: element of Sagittarius. You have to really live your truth 778 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: and your values to feel motivated to share them and 779 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: to actually get paid for sharing them. And so there's 780 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: like a financial obligation here as well to actually to 781 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: being true and real to who you are. It's very 782 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: important for your chart with this placement. Yeah. 783 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 2: I sometimes look at people who are like getting paid 784 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: to like eat food and leave reviews or like they're 785 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 2: making millions of dollars doing the most random stuff, and 786 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, it looks nice sometimes because like in 787 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: order for me to thrive, there's so much work that 788 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: has to be done, like so much intention. 789 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's different for yeah. Yeah, there's like 790 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: a level you're not living on the surface. Yeah, and 791 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: you and not that you would never, but you're not 792 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: getting paid to live on the surface either, like your work, 793 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: your abundance, your finances that you call in, you know, 794 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: they don't come by you living on the surface and 795 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: you're doing surface level things. They come from you going 796 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: deep and you know, connecting with spiritual realms in the 797 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: universe and transmitting that information. Like that's what's important in 798 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: your chart at least. Let's also look at some upcomings. 799 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: We already talked about Jupiter and Leo, So that's a 800 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: really important one for you because that is transitting your 801 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: tenth house for the rest of this year and the 802 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: first half of twenty twenty seven. And so that's just 803 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: going to light up your tenth house. And you don't 804 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: have any other planets in your tenth house but for 805 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: Jupiter to conjunct or touch in any way. But Jupiter 806 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: will just be activating your tenth house. So it's going 807 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: to be a very career focused time for you, and 808 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: you'll feel very expanded. Now you will have to figure 809 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: out how to kind of balance, like create some balance 810 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: in your life. And then Jupiter will oppose your Mercury 811 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: and your son in Aquarius, and that will happen probably 812 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: the top of twenty twenty seven, and so there will 813 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: be kind of that point where you're like, Okay, is 814 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: this what I really want to do? There will be 815 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: a question mark around your life's work and you will 816 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: be working a lot, and so it might come from like, oh, 817 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: this is disrupting the balance of my home or my family. 818 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: Is this what I really want to do? Do I 819 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: want to keep showing up for this? Let me think 820 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: about this some more that Mercury will take over, especially 821 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: when Jupiter opposes it and says, okay, let me really 822 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: think about how this is impacting my home because it's 823 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: going to oppose these planets in the fourth house, the 824 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: house the home for you, and so you know, I 825 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: would say even start now right preparing for this, because 826 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: this is going to happen, you know, January, February March, 827 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, kind of around even around launchtime for you, 828 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: because you're launching in February, right, so that it's going 829 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: to happen around around that time. So I would even 830 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: start planning now, like how am I going to create 831 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: balance between my work and my home so that I 832 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: don't feel guilty or I don't know, if you ever 833 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: feel guilty, but I don't feel like, you know, I'm 834 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: working too much and not you know, upholding my commitments 835 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: to my child or my partner. 836 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's just like my constant juggle, right 837 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 2: And I think I'm in that process already evaluating that, 838 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 2: and yeah, I just have to also remind myself sometimes 839 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: she's little now, and she's also going to grow, and 840 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 2: so there's like a pacing that has to happen where 841 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: I get to show up all the way now and 842 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: know that, you know, as she is growing, there's going 843 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: to be some individuation and some letting go. And so 844 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 2: it's it's more about pacing than it is about you know, 845 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 2: racing to the finish line for me. 846 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: Right right. Somebody once said to me, motherhood is just 847 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: this continual expression of your child getting further and further 848 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: away from you. And I found that so sad. But 849 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm also like it's so true because they become you know, 850 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: their first like in your body, and then they're like 851 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: sleeping next to you, and then they're in their own crib, 852 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: and then they're in their own room, and then they're 853 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: like going to school every day and like eventually like 854 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: have a sleepover, you know, And so it is that, 855 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's bittersweet, but it's also the way it evolves, 856 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: right the way we wanted to evolve. We want our 857 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: children to be increasingly more and more independent from us 858 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: because that means, you know, they're healthy and it's a 859 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: healthy partnership in the parenting realm. But I do see, 860 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, Jupiter expanding your tenth thousand, expanding your career. 861 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: The question mark is going to come from the fourth house, 862 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: like how am I going to balance this? How am 863 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: I going to stay true to my son? 864 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: Right? 865 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: My son and Aquarius the center of me? You know? 866 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: And how am I going to stay true to the 867 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: family that I am creating and the and inventing and 868 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: innovating in a lot of ways. So that will come up. 869 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: And so that's just something to know and plan for 870 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: and and you know, have have a strategy. We'll be 871 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: right back after a quick break. Mm hmmm. It's so 872 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: tough to have strategies until you're there too. 873 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes just like you don't know what it's going to 874 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 2: feel like and what's going to be the challenge. 875 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's. 876 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 2: Just it's always it's always a process. 877 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, my daughter and I. We still sleep together, 878 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: she's still nursing. 879 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna cut that ribbon pretty soon here, 880 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 2: like by the fourth birthday. But we've had a very 881 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: slow process of individuation, and like you know, she still 882 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 2: travels everywhere with me. So it has been limiting in 883 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 2: that way because like if I get invited to do 884 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: something like a big career opportunity, it's like either I'm 885 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 2: flying my entire family there, I'm not doing it. So 886 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: like this summer, I'm literally flying my husband and my 887 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: almost four year old all the way to Europe so 888 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 2: that I can speak and you know, we're going to 889 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 2: make a trip out of it. 890 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. 891 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 2: But it's also you know, it is definitely a factor 892 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 2: where things are slowing me down because I'm not willing 893 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: to cut that ribbon just yet. And you know, I 894 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 2: think we're just finding our way and I'm finding my 895 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,959 Speaker 2: way in all of. 896 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: That as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you will. You'll 897 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: find your way and you'll make it your own. You 898 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: know all this, You know, Aquarius, in your fourth house, 899 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,479 Speaker 1: you're definitely going to make your family your own and 900 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: you're going to invent the ways and innovate the ways 901 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: that you have a family and the family dynamics. So 902 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 1: you will figure it out. But yeah, I feel that 903 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: the family and career can be a really hard scale 904 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: to balance, for sure, especially for women. 905 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm the primary earner in my family 906 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 2: and it's a lot. It's a lot because the way 907 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 2: that I want to mother and then the career that 908 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 2: I want to have, it's like two full time jobs. Yeah, 909 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 2: so my business has taken a back seat. I mean, 910 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 2: I've been writing a lot and I'm creating a lot, 911 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 2: but in terms of you know, it's not like I'm 912 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: showing up on social media every day or doing the 913 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 2: things that I did pre motherhood because I just can't 914 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 2: do it all right now. Yeah, if I want to 915 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 2: do it authentically you know, right, Yeah, Yeah, it can 916 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: be hard. It can be hard to do it. It 917 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 2: can be hard to do it all. 918 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: And then, like you said, when you have a plan 919 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: and it can like fall apart, like the amount of 920 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: nanny's that have like left or I'm like I'm like 921 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 1: we've had the perfect nanny, Like I can I can work, 922 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: and then like the nanny like suddenly leaves and you're 923 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: like Okay, I can't work anymore. Yeah, or I can 924 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: work at like eight o'clock at night after I go 925 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: to bed, you know, and then I'm like working from 926 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: like eight to midnight. Yeah, I feel you. And so yeah, 927 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: we can have these plans and these strategies, and the 928 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: kids are you know, they get sick, they do this, 929 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: they get do that. You know, everything it's like unexpected. 930 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: So we just have to kind of roll with it 931 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: in some ways and let go of that control, uh, 932 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: letting go of that like virgo side and like letting 933 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: go of that control and just surrendering to the process. 934 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: And I've always found with motherhood, like every stage I'm like, oh, 935 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: I figured it out, I got it, and then it changes. 936 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like starting. Yeah, sometimes you catch the waves. 937 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes it just absolutely trashes you, but you just. 938 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: Can't cod back on. Yeah, yeah exactly. And then let's 939 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: look at Gemini for you, because Uranus is just moving 940 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: into Gemini, and so that's going to be important. That's 941 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: your eighth house, and so it'll slowly move towards your 942 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: Chiron almost years to get towards at your Chiron because 943 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: your kiron's at twenty three degrees. But right now Uranus 944 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: is really shaking up the eighth house, which is transformation, 945 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: which is personal growth, which is cycles, which is ending. 946 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: So you may actually feel pieces ending. And maybe it's 947 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, this thread you're talking about with your daughter, 948 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: or transforming or changing in some way, or maybe it's 949 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: another area of growth. But there might be some unexpected 950 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: growth of transformation in your life. Here with your honor 951 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,720 Speaker 1: is transiting your eighth House, which I think you'll take well, 952 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 1: you know, and we'll do do well. Like I'm I'm 953 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: not some people. I look at their chart and I'm like, oh, 954 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: your honest is transfer your eighth house, Like buckle up. 955 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a wild one. But you know, you 956 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: live your life for transformation, I feel, and you're used 957 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: to it and so but you know, just kind of 958 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: expect the unexpected in that realm of personal growth and transformation. 959 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: And even I find the eighth House is so interesting 960 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: because it also rules shared resources and like taxes and 961 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: inheritance and like other people's money, you know, so there 962 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,720 Speaker 1: might be some unexpected things that happen in that area 963 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: as well. Uranus transitting in the eighth House, but that's 964 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: an important one obviously. The summer, and that's a seven 965 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: year transit, so that's going to be occurring for quite 966 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: some time for you. And then we will have that 967 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: notal shift in July with the north node entering Aquarius, 968 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: which it will eventually make its way to your Sun 969 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: and Aquarius, and so that won't happen for quite some time. 970 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: It'll probably be you know, end of spring like May 971 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: and next year that it will hit your Sun and 972 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: then eventually you know, it will hit your mercury as 973 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: well too, that north node, and so that will really 974 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 1: kind of like light up your purpose and so you'll 975 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 1: feel your purpose this lifetime like really illuminated on display. 976 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: You might even learn things you haven't thought before. You 977 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: might even think kind of freely or like progressively or 978 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: into the future or from you might evolve right your 979 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: purpose in some way around that time. So that what 980 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: time is that? Did you say? It'll probably get there 981 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: eighteen degrees It moves backwards, so about nine months from 982 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: the time it enters, so I would say the spring 983 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: of next year. Okay, Yeah, that's interesting. 984 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've been making some new decisions around career 985 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 2: path and education that are like really really long long 986 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 2: on ramps and around the same timing, so it'll be interesting. 987 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 988 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you do you have schools that are you 989 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 2: going homeschool in your child? Yeah, I mean we're kind 990 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 2: of going to do like a little bit of a hybrid. 991 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 2: So there's there's alternative schools here that are like a 992 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: bridge between Waldorf and nature schools, and then you know, 993 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 2: you homeschool as well, so they get like both. 994 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: It's a very tight knit small community here. 995 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people have land with like multiple families 996 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 2: living on them or their families like all living together 997 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 2: on the same land, and lots. 998 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: Of like yurts and things like that for kids. So 999 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: we'll probably do that because we also really love to travel. 1000 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, I can't see her. 1001 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: She's not the kind of kid that could just go 1002 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 2: to public school, Like she's scary. 1003 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: It's not going to work for her. Yeah. Yeah, she's 1004 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: a Libra Aquarius spoon so. 1005 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 2: Ah okay, yeah, Capricorn rising so yeah, yeah, very on 1006 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 2: her own path, very on her own path. 1007 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it may not work for her. It doesn't. My 1008 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: oldest school doesn't really work for him, so he's home school. 1009 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: But we tried to try. It just didn't work. So 1010 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you have to let them show you too. 1011 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 2: Like people are asking what the plan is, and you know, 1012 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 2: I have a starting point, but really my plan is 1013 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 2: to observe and listen to her and let her guide 1014 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 2: that with us of course as the adults. Yeah, because 1015 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 2: you just never know, like what is this person going 1016 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 2: to be into and what aspect of their spirit you 1017 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: need to nurture the most, you know, like are they 1018 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 2: just so obviously an artist or are they so obviously 1019 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 2: an engineer? Brain, Like you can tell pretty early on 1020 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 2: how a person's works, yeah, and then you kind of 1021 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 2: have to just follow that. So I, you know, I 1022 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, yeah, I have an inkling. There's a 1023 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 2: lot of strong artist placements in her chart, but she's 1024 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 2: also very detail oriented, so we'll see. 1025 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll start to see it. I think my oldest son, 1026 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: he is five, and we were like, yeah, he's an 1027 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: engineer and you can just see it. And all he 1028 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: wants to do is sit around and play with a 1029 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: three D printer and he's like it's and build like 1030 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: Lego robotics. Like he's not even seven and he's fully 1031 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: programming like Lego robotics. It's just like, you know, like 1032 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: you can't you can't like force him to just like 1033 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: sit and do reading, you know, over hours on end, 1034 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 1: because he's just like, no, I just want to build things, 1035 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 1: Like I'll read if it helps me build. Yeah. 1036 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 2: They are who they are and they are people. Ask me, 1037 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 2: you know what's motherhood like? And I say, it's like 1038 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 2: domesticating a wild animal. 1039 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: But trying not to kill their spirit. 1040 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 2: You know, it's like that essence alive, Like I'm not 1041 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 2: shaping her into who she's meant to be, Like she 1042 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 2: is already here, she's meant to be, and I'm just 1043 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 2: trying to like keep her essence and her spirit free. 1044 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, Yeah, no, I feel the same way. 1045 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 1: I also feel like sometimes it's just like providing a 1046 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: safe container for monkeys on acid. 1047 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's totally true. 1048 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: My two boys, like my husband and I always like, 1049 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 1: we like, she need a padded room and that would 1050 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: make girl total. We have a version of that, Like 1051 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: the room just next to me. 1052 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 2: I'm in my office right now and the room next 1053 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 2: to us is we have like little nugget mats everywhere 1054 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 2: with rings hanging from the ceiling yoga swing Like it's 1055 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 2: really helpful to have that. 1056 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I love the nugget mats. They're great. We 1057 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: have monkey bars, like we have trampoline. The trampoline has 1058 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: been like the best thing for nervous regulation for my 1059 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: kids totally. I thought it was really like a OT 1060 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: told me that, and I was like, really, trampoline, And 1061 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: then we started using it. I was like, oh my gosh, 1062 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: this is like the answer. It's amazing. Yeah, trampoline every 1063 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: day for everyone. All right, well, let's we'll finish up here. 1064 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: Are there any questions that you have about your chart 1065 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: that you want to know? Hmmm, uh sure. 1066 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 2: Let's let's look at the success as a children's author. 1067 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I think you have a really 1068 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: strong placement as a teacher. I think there could be 1069 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 1: a lot of success as a children's author because of 1070 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: this north node and this venus in Pisces in your 1071 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: fifth house, and so that like speaks directly to that 1072 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: which is kids. And a lot of times when I 1073 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: see strong placements in the fifth house, people are doing 1074 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: something with children, like writing children's books or like I 1075 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: had somebody talk to me about like creating you know, 1076 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: all programming for kids or you know, it comes up 1077 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: a lot with the fifth House. But I think because 1078 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: it's a north note. It's like this is where you're 1079 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: headn't and this is like a soul, this is what 1080 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: you're here to do this lifetime. And then Venus is 1081 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: love heart is like touching your heart space and so 1082 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: and then the Pisces is like we can bring in 1083 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 1: that element of fantasy with Pisces as well, which feeds 1084 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: into the kid's book because there is that like element 1085 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: of fantasy within children's books or at least be kind 1086 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: of one, a little bit of that like whimsy in there, 1087 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: and so that Pisces can bring that in there. So 1088 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: I think I think signs point to yes. But I 1089 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: think all in all, it's like you you never need 1090 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: to forget, which I don't thank you that. You know 1091 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: you're a teacher, so even through children's books, you're teaching, 1092 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: and so everything you do is just going to be 1093 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: a different vehicle to teach. I love that. Thanks. Yeah, well, 1094 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: it was wonderful chatting with you. I feel like I 1095 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: know you so much deeper now looking at your chart 1096 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: and everything you do with rising Women and even the 1097 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: kids books like make make total sense. And so I'm 1098 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: excited you'll have to send me a children's book when 1099 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: it comes out, or well, yeah, you read it to 1100 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: my boys. They love they love being read too. Nice, 1101 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 1: So well, we do a lot of reading. But it 1102 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: was so nice talking to you today and connecting with 1103 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: you and let people know where to find you. 1104 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 2: Uh at Rising Women on YouTube and Instagram and risingwoman 1105 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 2: dot com is a great place you can get on 1106 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 2: my email list. There's a bunch of free meditations and 1107 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 2: things like that, and you can. 1108 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: Learn more about what I'm doing over there. 1109 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 2: And all my books are obviously in bookstores and on Amazon, 1110 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 2: which is unfortunately where most books are sold these days. 1111 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, thanks for that. 1112 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Though you're great at reading charts. It was a really 1113 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 2: enlightening reading and I always love experiencing new astrologers in 1114 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 2: the way that they look at a chart. Yeah, I've 1115 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 2: been told I'm very practical. 1116 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,439 Speaker 1: I love that that works for my brain too, so yeah, 1117 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: I bring that. Well. Thank you so much, and we'll 1118 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: put all of your links in the show notes as 1119 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: well so people can find them. Okay, thanks to you, Thank you, 1120 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening today. I hope this 1121 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: episode sparks something within you, maybe a new way of 1122 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: seeing yourself or a question Worth's sitting with or maybe 1123 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: it just helped you remember your power. 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