1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Previously on Once upon a. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Con Several times Caroline would say to me in tears 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: that I thought this was my chance to be lucky. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: I thought this was my chance for someone to save me. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: I wanted the pot of gold at the end of 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: the rainbow. And I'm not ashamed to say it. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: That was the start of the cancer that David Blum 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: kind of planted. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: I empty my bank account of all the cash I 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: have and get my loved ones and business partners to 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: fork over a combined thirty five thousand dollars to David 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Bloom for that Soho house IPO. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 4: I remember I venmoed you, Yeah, venmo to nowhere. 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: And shortly after that, David offers to invest two million 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: dollars of his own money in my company. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: He was the center of everything. 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: It was bizarre who pinned everybody against each other. But 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: suddenly none of that matters because David gets the CEO 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: of Whole Foods AC Gallo interest did in selling my 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Pizza Girl pasta sauce in every one of their five 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: hundred stores. 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 5: Ac it's David. I'm gonna put you on a speak 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 5: your phone an interest you to Caroline. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 6: Right, Hi, how are you little did I know this 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 6: was the beginning of a nightmare that changed my life forever. 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 7: Ship is what you? 27 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline de Morey and this is Once Upon a 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: con Episode three, dangling that Carrot. 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 5: Ac and Ron go back over the deal of selling 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: the Wild Too Whole Food and who is part of Amazon? 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Right It's July fourteenth, twenty twenty one. I'm standing now 32 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: in David Bloom's immaculate apartment at the Villa Carlotta that 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: he's paying eight grand a month for. He's prepping me 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: for the call he's about to make to Whole Food 35 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: CEO Ac Gallo, a man he knows through his close 36 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: friendship with billionaire Ron Berkele, and Sarana is now one of. 37 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 5: The four artist shareholders of Amazon because of the Whole 38 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: Foods stock. 39 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: I told David Bloom I wanted to record all of 40 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: this on my voice memos app so that I could 41 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: make notes later to share with my business partners. He 42 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: didn't object. I mean, he's dropping a lot of knowledge 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: on me right now, and I just want to make 44 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: sure I catch it all. 45 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 5: And then the Whole Food's converted into Amazon's stock, got it? 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: No one knows? I mean, you know. Wow, I just 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: know that thisse we're friends. 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 8: That's crazy. 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 5: He's a big wig at Amazon, Ron, Wow, but he 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: knows ac of them multi. 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is literally a dream come true 52 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: for me. I'm pinching myself. I am so happy. David 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: calls up Whole Food CEO Ac Gallo, and I'm right 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: there beside him for freaking out. 55 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: Ac sitting here with Caroline, the founder of CEO of 56 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: Pizza Girl, Thank you so much for taking time to 57 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 5: chat with me. 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Yes, Ron Berkele, the billionaires supermarket mogul I told you 59 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: about in the last episode, who David says he's good 60 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: friends with. That's how A. C. Gallo found out about 61 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: me and Pizza. 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 9: Girl, about yourself. 63 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: So this is my moment to pitch A C. Gallo. 64 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm excited and I'm terrify, but I'm ready. Pizza Girl 65 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: pasta sauce belongs in every single Whole Food store in 66 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: the country, and I'm going to explain to their CEO 67 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: in no uncertain terms why. 68 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 10: Okay, So my family owns a tiny, little hole in 69 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 10: the wall pizza restaurants called The Mare's Pizza. So I 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 10: grew up you know, in these pizza restaurants, and everybody 71 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 10: called me the pizza girl, and I hated it. 72 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 5: I would walk down the street and they'd be like, Oh, 73 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: what's up, where's the pizza pizza girl? 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 11: And I hated it for so long, and then you know, 75 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 11: I grew up and I. 76 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 10: Was like, fine, you guys gonna call me the pizza girl, 77 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 10: that I'm going to be the pizza girl. And so 78 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 10: I found that there was really nothing special in the 79 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 10: organic sauce world, nothing by a millennial mom and just 80 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 10: something that was organic and ticked all the box. It 81 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 10: is no headed sugar and just like spoke to a 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 10: more now generation. It's all either very old world manly 83 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 10: like areos or like a Newman's and there was nothing 84 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 10: that really spoke to me. And I wanted to be 85 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 10: able to feed my daughter something healthy and organic right 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 10: out of the jar. So I use my grandmother's recipes 87 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 10: and I kind of brought this vision into today. 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 11: And I'm finding a lot of supermarkets are really excited 89 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 11: about it, and I find that when people try it, 90 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 11: they buy it. It's definitely the best yard sauce that 91 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 11: you can find. 92 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: FYI, David is motioning for me to speed things up 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: the entire time I'm talking, and it really throws me. 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 11: A lot of celebrities talking about it, like Katty Hilton 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 11: just said it's her favorite sauce. Christy Cavalier just said 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 11: it's her favorite sauce. Like all these people are being 97 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 11: very verbal and nocal about this being the best tasting 98 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 11: and you know, their family's favorite sauce, which has been 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 11: really awesome. So I've just been getting a ton of 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 11: love on it and on just this very small startup level. 101 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 9: So this sounds great if we're actually looking for products 102 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 9: like you were, just that. 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: Align with our values, right. 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 9: And products get Promotorily is a grand company. 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 10: I don't know if you're familiar with the program we have 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 10: mobile producer program. 107 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 5: I don't know about the loan program. No, the pp earns. 108 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 9: Money small scale emergent businesses, local businesses helping investing communities. 109 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 5: But in order to discuss this, like to have you 110 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 5: and your team come, what's it wants to next month? 111 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 9: Okay, that we can set that up here with David 112 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 9: to help with that thinking into August. 113 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 5: Perhaps, does that sounds like something you could do? 114 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 7: Absolutely? 115 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: I'm a partner. We got away for three weeks, right. 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 10: Uh, they are going away, yes, but regardless, I'll make 117 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 10: it happen. 118 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: I'll go mountains to make this happen. 119 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: So I also said, a see your deck also has 120 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: your deck. 121 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it's lovely. 122 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: This is a small part of what we want to 123 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: discuss with you. 124 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 11: So is the next step meeting in Austin or for okay. 125 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 5: What's your team? 126 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: Okay? 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, with his team and can talk about the program, 128 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: which is sort of like the gateway to how will 129 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 5: you scale up to? Do you know? You know, a 130 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 5: national global deal. 131 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: With the awesome all Right, the headquarters of Whole Foods 132 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: is in Austin, Texas, and their CEO, A. C. Gallo, 133 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: wants us all me, my business partners Rebecca Naron and 134 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: David to fly out there and meet with him a 135 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: S A P with the goal of getting Pizza Girl 136 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: pasta sauce on the shelves of every Whole food supermarket 137 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: in the country. Is this really happening? I had already 138 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: spoken to the president. 139 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: Of Whole Foods. 140 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: This is legit as far as I'm concerned, you know. 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: To be. 142 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 12: In the headquarters of Whole Foods and he would just 143 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 12: come for the first. 144 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: Bit, right, that's my business partner Beck. 145 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: We did question why it was coming. 146 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 12: Aaron and I were like, why does David need to 147 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 12: come to open the door and say, here's these guys. 148 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 12: So that was we were like, I kind of would 149 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 12: rather go. 150 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Just us regardless. In late August of twenty twenty one, 151 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: nearly five months after first meeting David Bloom at the 152 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Villa Carlata, my business partners Beck and Aaron and I 153 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: board a Delta flight to Austin, Texas, a city of 154 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: about a million people. Smack dab in the middle of 155 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: the lone star estate, there's slogan is and I kid 156 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: you not keep Austin weird. Definitely sounds like my kind 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: of place, and it's really beautiful here. We check into 158 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: our hotel and we wait. 159 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 12: So we left on a Wednesday. We were having the 160 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 12: meeting on the Thursday, yes. 161 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: And as we're sitting in Texas, we were kay on cash, 162 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: spending money for hotel rooms, flights. Plus David knew that 163 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: this is a baby startup and that we can't be 164 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: spending money that we you know, shouldn't be spending. We're 165 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: sitting in Texas and all of a sudden it's the 166 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: next day and David wasn't there. 167 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: He said, you were delaying text He said. 168 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: He was at he had to go to a meeting 169 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: at the head of Netflix's house. He was very good 170 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: friends at the head of Netflix. David used to talk 171 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: about Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos a lot. I knew they 172 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: were close, so his excuse made sense to me. By 173 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: the way, he was also dangling that carrot with Ryan right. 174 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: Ryan was my boyfriend at the time. Ryan had dabbled 175 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: in acting, and he had said that he was going 176 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: to help him get some sort of job in a 177 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: show on Netflix. And even though David's telling us he's 178 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: been texting with the Whole food CEO Ac Gallo the 179 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: past couple days about our upcoming meeting, we were getting 180 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: frustrated because we couldn't get a clear picture of what 181 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Whole Foods was expecting from us in that meeting. 182 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 12: And we kept asking David what will they want? What 183 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 12: do we need to prepare? And he was not giving 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 12: any answers. 185 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: I've never been to a meeting in my whole career 186 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: of walking in completely blind from or by. 187 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 3: The person who set it up. 188 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: Is zero background other than Whole Foods are going to 189 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: give us money. 190 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: My question is why. 191 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Then, all of a sudden, our auspicious Whole Foods meeting 192 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: gets pushed. 193 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: He would say that I've had a COVID issue in 194 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: the office. No meetings today. I'm going to fly in tomorrow. 195 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Yep, COVID strikes again. It was actually a very common 196 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: thing back in twenty twenty one for sudden outbreaks of 197 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: COVID to snarl meetings and public events, So it made 198 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: sense to us. I actually got the vaccine for this meeting. 199 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: I did the Johnson Johnson and I was so sick 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: from it. And then shockingly that vaccination eventually becomes a 201 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: nun other reason for Whole Foods to delay the meeting 202 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: yet again. I whn't got vaccinated, but because I didn't 203 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: do it in time, a certain amount of days before 204 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: they could meet with me in person, I'm like, can't 205 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: we just do a zoom meeting at this point, you know, 206 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: with COVID and with all this stuff. So since we 207 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: got to Austin on Wednesday, our Thursday meeting with Whole 208 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: Foods that got delayed to Friday because of a COVID 209 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: outbreak in their offices is now being delayed till Monday, 210 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: because by then it would have been fourteen days since 211 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: my vaccination. Yeah, so it looks like we're spending the 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: weekend in our hotel rooms in Austin, and David has 213 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: yet to even fly out here to meet us. He's 214 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: still in Los Angeles. 215 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 12: And on the Friday he rang you and he accidentally 216 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 12: did not hang up his phone. I don't remember where 217 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 12: he said he was, but I said, you know, don't 218 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 12: hang it up. 219 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: I want to hear where he got to go. 220 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: I'm in a meeting. 221 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 12: And then you could hear him shuffling around and walking 222 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 12: into someone. 223 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: Wasn't he buying stamps or something? He's in the post office. 224 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: He's in the. 225 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: Post office, like I can hear him talking to people. 226 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Eventually, David hung up his phone, and I remember I 227 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: called David and I was really upset. I was like David, like, 228 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a mom, Like I have to get 229 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: home to my daughter. There was things that were really 230 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: starting to build up, like how can I sit here? 231 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: And he would say things to me like Caroline, when 232 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: I was broke, I you know, I spent my last dollar, 233 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: my last dime. You need to fight for what you 234 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: want in life. You need to stay in Texas and wait. 235 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it takes a month, you wait 236 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: for that big meeting that's going to change your life. 237 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: So it's Sunday now, and our Whole Foods meeting is 238 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: scheduled for early Monday morning, and David's still not in 239 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Austin yet. So I call him and he tells me 240 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: he's on his way to the airport. But I want 241 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: to make sure. So I called my friend Sylvie who's 242 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: at the car Lotta, and I said, just checking, like, 243 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: is David like, because he's supposed to be on his 244 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: way to the airport. She goes, he's by the pool 245 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: doing a barbecue for all these other people right now. 246 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: He's barbecuing at the when we're waiting for him to 247 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: land for this meeting, and he's like literally barbecuing at 248 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: the Villa Carlotta. I am stunned. Why is David lying 249 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: to me about heading to the airport. And if he's 250 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: lying to me about that, what else is he lying about? 251 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: So beck Aarin and I go for a walk to 252 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: clear our heads and figure out what we should do next. 253 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: And as we're making our way across a giant bridge 254 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: near downtown Austin, with the setting sun reflecting off the 255 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: tall buildings behind us, casting a bright haze on everything, 256 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: and with cars whizzing by, Beck suddenly stops in her 257 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: tracks on that bridge. She looks like she's seen a ghost. 258 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: She's scrolling through her phone now in shock, so aarin 259 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: he starts recording video of her on his phone. 260 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 5: Can you just tell us what's just sad? 261 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 12: He just found this article on quite just googling David 262 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 12: Bloom's scammer. 263 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: We're just standing on the bridge after five days in 264 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Austin waiting for this mysterious meeting to happen. 265 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 12: After his arrest, mister Bloom pleaded guilty to federal mail 266 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 12: fraud and securities violations, and he traded in his lavish 267 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 12: apartment for the allen Wood Correctional Center. 268 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: He seemed contrite. 269 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 12: He really seemed like he thought he was a stupid, jerky, 270 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 12: ridiculous thing to do. When mister Bloom was released in 271 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 12: nineteen ninety four, he went home to his parents. He 272 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 12: started appearing at his old haunts, trying to make new friends. 273 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 12: He popped up at Nello and Elaine's and began hitting 274 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 12: the rounds of the charity galas and birthday parties of 275 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 12: the Upper east Side young investment bankers. 276 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: He showed up to a gala the Second Chances as 277 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: a charity. 278 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 12: He wore a pretty compelling story, said a woman who 279 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 12: met him shortly after his relations. 280 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: At this point, while Beck's reading an old news article 281 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: about David blue UM's criminal past. I'm standing about twenty 282 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: feet behind her talking to a friend on the phone. 283 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: But I can see them freaking out about something. So 284 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: I walk up and Aaron says to me, a. 285 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Really messive Oh no, what he's a scanner has been 286 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: in Chile a few times. 287 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: Beck has just found something. 288 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 12: He has IPRs for people waitresses given twenty pound Beck. 289 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Just found it by googling David Blooms. My heart is pounding. 290 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I gotta go. 291 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 13: I'm pulling back. 292 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm in utter shock and disbelief. Apparently David Bloom has 293 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: a long history of scamming a lot of people. I mean, 294 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: we found news reports about his cons that go all 295 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: the way back to the nineteen eighties. It feels like 296 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: my world just got ripped out from under me. All 297 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: those times that we were googling just David Bloom and 298 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: hundreds of other David Blooms would show up in the searchers. 299 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: No one ever tried googling David Bloom and the word 300 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: scammer until just now. It's a lot to take in. 301 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: We get back to the hotel and I just lose 302 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: it in the elevator. 303 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 5: I all just try the. 304 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 8: Hope of like being successful, and like he dangled the 305 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 8: carrot of like to hard working people that work really fucking. 306 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 7: Hard and just wanted to like achieve something. We didn't 307 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 7: want to gift it to us. We wanted to work. 308 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 13: We booked for I mean, all the decks and everything 309 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 13: that we put together for this fucking meeting, all the 310 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 13: all the pre planning, everything that we did is just insane. 311 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Walking back to my hotel room, I can barely keep 312 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: it together. 313 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 7: Just feel like closing up. I just feel like I'm 314 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 7: living a panic topic. 315 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: The weight of everything is just crashing down around me 316 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: now because I'm beginning to realize that nothing David Bloom 317 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: told me was true. Nothing. I don't even think we 318 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: ever really had a meeting set up with the CEO 319 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: of Whole Foods, and I don't think there's an IPO 320 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: he invested our thirty five thousand dollars in and not 321 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: only are we out all that money, but we've spent 322 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars on this Austin trip. We've been here 323 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: for five days now for nothing, and I feel like 324 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: it's all my faults. I roped everyone into this, my 325 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: business partners, my boyfriend, my boyfriend's family. It's just too much. 326 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: I'm standing in the hotel hallway now, just drowning in 327 00:17:48,240 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: my own grief and regret for literally hours. I'm talking 328 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: to Beck and Aaron. They're in their room and I'm 329 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: in mine, and we're on FaceTime, and I'm vacillating back 330 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: and forth between coherence and bawling, and I had this 331 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: bad feeling. I know we need to plan anyway, but 332 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: this whole thing is just really fucked with me. 333 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 5: That's cool. 334 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: Now, A bits trying too, crying for her. 335 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 8: No, no, no, I'm fucking stupid, and I'm just like 336 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 8: a drug and glies along and I'm just run run's money, 337 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 8: like his family's money. 338 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: Ryan was my boyfriend at the time. He borrowed ten 339 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: thousand dollars from his family to invest with David Bloom, 340 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: and the fallout from all of this is actually one 341 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: of the reasons why we broke up. Eventually, though, my 342 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: tears turned to anger. 343 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 7: Fine nights in Austin, five. 344 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 10: Nights we've been sitting here in Austin because it's our 345 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 10: fucking life. 346 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 7: We're gonna change. 347 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: Oh my god, Oh my fucking god. 348 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm so angry. But what's really throwing me right now 349 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: about this whole entire situation is that I actually talked 350 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: to Whole food CEO A. C. Gallow on the phone 351 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: with David. Remember, yes, but now in light of everything 352 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: we just discovered, it's almost comical in a sick and 353 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: twisted way. 354 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 13: We're having a corporate meeting with meeting tomorrow and the 355 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 13: president of Whole Foods A. C. 356 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: Gallow, who I spoke to on the phone. 357 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: That did you not? 358 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 7: Obviously not? 359 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: I am fucking freaky. 360 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: Who the hell was pretending to be AC on the 361 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: phone with me that day? 362 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: We're actually. 363 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 12: With our values right. 364 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 8: Comedy. 365 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: I even listened to Ted talks with A. C. Gallo, 366 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: the president of Whole Foods, and this person who I 367 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: spoke to on the phone sounded identical to him. Did 368 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: David hire someone to impersonate A. C. Gallo? We have 369 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: to talk to the police and then all of a sudden. 370 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 13: David just Textan. David just Textan waiting for our to call. 371 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 13: He's a few minutes behind schedule. 372 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: David always refers to billionaire Ron Berkele as R in 373 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: his text messages to me. But I'm pretty certain at 374 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: this point that David doesn't actually know Ron Burkell at all. 375 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: So I make a call to someone who actually does 376 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: know billionaire Ron Burkell is that's never heard of David 377 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: Bloom because Fred Durst just told me they're friends. They're 378 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: best friends. And I was scared to ask him about 379 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: a while ago because if it was so believable, and 380 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: if it got back to Ron, then I was investigating 381 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: David that he would be like, how dare you? 382 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 8: You know? 383 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: It was a very good manipulative. I just feel like 384 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: an idiot. 385 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: Everybody does who's been skinned. He's been doing this for. 386 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 8: Dickheads, dicads, and that's what makes me want to get 387 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 8: him do this. 388 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: I just thought of something. He's been doing it for 389 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: almost as long as. 390 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 7: You've been alive. 391 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, since the eighties and eighty four, if I'm honest. Though, 392 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: looking back, there were signs that David Bloom was off 393 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: for starters His apartment was weirdly spotless, like Serial Killer 394 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: Spotless twenty four to seven. It didn't even look like 395 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: anyone lived there really. 396 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 12: He had a couple of shirts hanging in the closet, 397 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 12: that's all, and the few shoes lined up. 398 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: David's room was like a furniture showroom. 399 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: It always looked like he was ready to pack up 400 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: and go. It never looked like he made it his home. 401 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: Everything was very tidy. 402 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: I think for someone like him, with so much stuff, 403 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: as he calls it going on in his head, he 404 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: would need to have everything else very clear and concise 405 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: and clean and organized around him because he's constantly organizing 406 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: things in his head, and even his phone. 407 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: I remember Ryan saying once that David Bloom told him. 408 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: That he deletes his text at the end of every day, 409 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: so that texts are just a thought. They're not a 410 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: communication process, They're just a thought at a moment in time. 411 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: Was his reason for it, And in my head, I said, 412 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: anyone deleting the tracks every day is for a reason. 413 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: You know, he was the only person on you deleting 414 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: every text. 415 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: Maybe Ryan started deleting his He did. 416 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: Start deleting his text for a while. 417 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, Ryan's always working on his mental 418 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: health and stuff like that. He thought it was like 419 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: a positive thing, when really it's just the scam artist, 420 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: who is you know, covering his tracks. It suddenly dawns 421 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: on back what our next steps need to be. I mean, 422 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: we're definitely reporting David to the police, but in the meantime. 423 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: Record him Wall. 424 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 12: We're in Texas and we need to get him to 425 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 12: say talk about Icy Gallo, talk about the meeting. 426 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 7: You have to say, but I've been here five days. 427 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 12: Every fact you can put in there that he can 428 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 12: confirm that he's set up for you. 429 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 7: Then we've got him admitting that he did all that stuff. 430 00:23:51,400 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: So I pick up my phone and tap David Bloom. 431 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm shaking with Ada. 432 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 8: And him. 433 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: Then I suddenly get a text from David. Listen on phone, 434 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: we'll call you after that. I can't keep looking at 435 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: my phone to respond. I'm sitting with the CEO of Netflix. 436 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Will text you from the car. He's always talking to 437 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: either the CEO of Netflix, ron VRCAL, or the CEO 438 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: of the Rams. But now I know that's all bullshit. 439 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't know any of those people. Eventually, David does 440 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: call me back and we recorded it. He's still trying 441 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 1: really hard to convince us this whole Foods meeting is 442 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: actually happening. 443 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 9: I'm trying to do everything that's in my powers. Take 444 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 9: this by I've offered you guys, because they know none 445 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 9: of you have a lot of money. I've offered today 446 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 9: for everyone's trip. I don't care about that. I just 447 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 9: want you all commonly cool. 448 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: Headed because you are going to have a meeting and 449 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 5: they're going to offer you. 450 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Something next time. On Once Upon a Con. 451 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 9: I'll with dear clutter, I love you whatever you need 452 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 9: till that money comes in. You just tell me, I'll 453 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 9: hand it to you, Okay. 454 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: David Bloom promises us the moon and we record it 455 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: all for police. He just thinks I'm just a goodly yummy. 456 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 12: Now the table's a turn like he doesn't know that 457 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 12: you know, and now you're playing him so that he 458 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 12: can get his just rewards. 459 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: This podcast is dedicated to the memory of my amazing mother, 460 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: Bonnie Major, who would be super proud of me standing 461 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: up for myself. 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