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Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast. The questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: It's some Beckdel cast. Hello, Oh my god, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: good listeners. I just want you to know that. Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna leave that in the episode. All Right,

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Speaker 1: all right, I thought you were gonna I thought you

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Speaker 1: do you believe in podcast? Because that's for some reason,

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Speaker 1: the journey of this movie, Mario has to believe in

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Speaker 1: So it makes total sense. Yeah, this, he would be

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Speaker 1: my little freaky dinosaur bones. Well, I thought that was

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Speaker 1: was just being insecure. I wish I thought of it myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's why this is a collaborative effort. It's

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Speaker 1: true and welcome to the Bectel Cast. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus Mario. Oh wow, my name is Caitlin Mario Durante,

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Speaker 1: which actually almost works because my middle name is Marie.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't letter off of Mario. You should get that changed.

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Speaker 1: of our middle names. Well, here's the thing, Loftus Luigi.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound that similar, but Jamie Loftus Mario. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it could have just been Jamie Luigi. It was right there.

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Speaker 1: it's the new you baby. And this week we're covering

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Speaker 1: a movie that is no longer available publicly. I would

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Speaker 1: I think this movie has such a bad reputation that

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Speaker 1: have been fun though along with the egg, this woman

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Speaker 1: also left behind a bluish crystal, which will become important later.

420
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Speaker 1: We then cut to present day aka nineteen ninety three.

421
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Speaker 1: We meet Mario played by Bob Hoskins and his younger

422
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: brother Luigi played by John leg was almost incredible, perfect cast,

423
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: perfect casting. It's so good you wouldn't think that. I mean,

424
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: I guess it's just like two people with just like

425
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: off the charts levels of charisma, where were like, I

426
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: guess they would work together, how could they not? And

427
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: they do and they do. They are plumbers who get

428
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: called in for a job, but their competitor, the mean

429
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: mister Scapelli, gets their first. Mister Scappelli is also trying

430
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: to shut down a paleontological dig where NYU students are

431
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: digging up dinosaur bones, which is a project led by

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Speaker 1: Daisy played by Samantha Mathis. This is also like eighties

433
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: and nineties kind of villains where I mean, and I

434
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: kind of miss this in like big cartoonish real estate

435
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: developer villains who get humiliated by the end of the movie.

436
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: Like this happens in almost all of these kinds of adaptations,

437
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: and I always like it. Yeah, it's always some scrappy

438
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: kids that are like, don't build them all here, and

439
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: then they don't. That's why. Then they don't and works

440
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: and we love it, just like in real life exactly.

441
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Then we meet these two goons, Spike and Iggy, who

442
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: work for Cooper, and it seems like they are fish

443
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: out of water. They're eating hot dogs the wrong way,

444
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: which Jamie's cheering, always cheering. They think that they're eating

445
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: actual dog meat. They throw away the buns. It's hilarious.

446
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean, depending on where you source it, you could

447
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: be eating actual dog meat. Sometimes the rumors are true,

448
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: and I appreciated that deconstruction of the form. Oh sorry, sorry, guys.

449
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: Fleet just pooped and so he's walking around and screaming

450
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: that's what I do too. He's sometimes when he really

451
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: lays an egg, it has to he's like, call the nuns.

452
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: Scream it out, called the nuns. We get a live one. Okay,

453
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: all right, sorry, no worries. So Mike and Iggy are

454
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: maybe from another dimension in but they are trying to

455
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: kidnap Daisy. Yeah, Daisy. Meanwhile, cross his path with Luigi

456
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: and he's like, hubb a hubba whooah, who is that?

457
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: But Luigi is really bad at flirting, so Mario steps

458
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: in and helps Mario smooth as hell, Mario. Women are

459
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: dropping at this guy's feet. Yeah, I love and he's

460
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: a good boyfriend. I was like, wow, he treats women right.

461
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: I was into it. He does both of them. They're

462
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: so sweet to the women in their lives, and it's like, wow,

463
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: it's really nice. We never see this. I was like jealous.

464
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: I was jealous of Daniella. Yeah, he's so affectionate, he's

465
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: so nice and that. So they offer Daisy a ride

466
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: and then Luigi asks her to dinner that night. Cut

467
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Speaker 1: to dinner. It's a double date between Luigi and Daisy

468
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: and Mario and his girlfriend Daniella. This is where we

469
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: discover that Daisy is the baby who hatched from the

470
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Speaker 1: egg at the beginning, because she has that blue crystal

471
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Speaker 1: which she wears around her neck as a necklace, and

472
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: we're like, wow, blue crystal necklace, Heart of the Ocean much. Also,

473
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: there's a moment where Luigi's like I'm flying Mario and

474
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa James Cameron ripped it off. Okay, So

475
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: then Luigi is like, wow, Daisy, your job digging up

476
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: dinosaur Bones is so cool, and she's like, I'll show you,

477
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: so she takes him down to the sewer. Meanwhile, Spike

478
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: and Iggy kidnap Mario's girlfriend Daniella because they mistake her

479
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: for Daisy, but they realize they've gotten the wrong person,

480
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: so then they follow Daisy and Luigi into the sewer. Meanwhile,

481
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Daisy and Luigi are about to smooch, but then some

482
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: pipes burst And this is maybe my favorite joke of

483
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: the movie, where Luigi, who is a plumber, she's like,

484
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, thank goodness you're here. You're a plumber,

485
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: and he's like, that's right, I know exactly what to do.

486
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: Cut to them going to Mario because because Luigi doesn't

487
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: know what he's doing. Yeah, it's like, I also like

488
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: that it's sort of cannon that Luigi doesn't know what

489
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: he's doing. He's just an apprentice. True God. Also not

490
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: to like keep Thursday after John l. Zamba. But I

491
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: was like, wow, he's probably like twenty two. Here he's

492
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: thirty three. Really, oh my god. I was like he

493
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: looks so young. Good for him. Look, I mean I

494
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: have no explanation, I just have the truth. I will

495
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: say I did appreciate how many times that they got

496
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: out of situations via plumbing, either like messing with the

497
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: plumbing or repairing the plumbing. I thought that was a

498
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: really fun way to be like, look, they're plumbers. This

499
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: is what they know how to do. They are going

500
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: to plumb. Yeah, they're not Mary Sue plumbers, so they

501
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: use skills they already have all the time. There's even

502
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: like it got more. I was like, wow, this is

503
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: getting kind of granular, Like Mario is talking Luigi through

504
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: some HVAC shit at one point, and you're just like,

505
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: this is like pretty intense, working class heroes, blue color heroes.

506
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: And then they mentioned their union. Yeah, plumbers famously have

507
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: like some of the strongest unions in like the world.

508
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: So it's also like, man, I believe that these guys

509
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: working class heroes. Luigi has like a rainbow tool belt.

510
00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: He's an ally ally god. I love these guys. They rock.

511
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: I also wondered the way that they set up, like

512
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: it seems like the way that Mario and Luigi get

513
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: plumbing work is by like walking around. I was like,

514
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: don't they call you? Why are you walking around looking

515
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: for plumbing problems? But I don't know. I've never worked,

516
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: I've never apprenticed, so I can't say for sure. Sure,

517
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: um okay, So now they all go back down to

518
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: the sewer to fix these pipes. But oh no, the

519
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: goons kidnapped Daisy and bring her through this port hole,

520
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: but her crystal necklace gets left behind. Luigi and Mario

521
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: grab it, and then they jump through the port hole

522
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: as well, which is just like a rock face. They

523
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: go into the sewers and then it's like kind of

524
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: an underground like kve canyon thing and they jump into

525
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: like a wiggly rock essentially precisely, This like helped me

526
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: understand a little better when like the two directors who

527
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: did this also invented that character Max Headroom, who looks

528
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: similarly bizarre. It was like an eighties I associated with MTV,

529
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: but it was like this eighties TV host that was

530
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: just a computer generated head and I think he wore sunglasses,

531
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: And it was supposed to be like this cool futuristic

532
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: like gen X kids love this, and they did. You're like,

533
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: all right, but it like the graphics are super similar,

534
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: and that was well, I'm excited to talk about the

535
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: production of this movie because it's there's so much cue.

536
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god. One of the directors poured hot coffee,

537
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: had an extra You're like, what the fuck is man

538
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: John Leguizamo, Like injured Bob. They was driving the Mario

539
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: like their plumbing car drunk because they were drunk all

540
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I already hurt Bob Hoskins and he

541
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: had to wear a cast for most of the movie.

542
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: He's wearing a flush, flush colored cast. Anyways, the backstories

543
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: wild good trivia. They did flip a lot of cars.

544
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: I was kind I'm amazed at how many big action

545
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: sequences there were. I loved it. They spared no expense.

546
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: It felt like almost Tim Burton Batmanny the way the

547
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: action was at some point, whereas like big action sequences

548
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: with like a pause for jokes. Yes, this is not

549
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: really the tone of the script, but more the aesthetics

550
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: of like especially on the villain's dressed. Have you y'all

551
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: seen the movie Dead Ringers. No, No, it's a freaky,

552
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: weird movie that is very totally different. But it's about

553
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: these two twin gynecologists based off of like I think,

554
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: real life, and then they like I think maybe start

555
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: like mutilating and murdering people and then also like each other,

556
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: and then they have these weird, freaky tools. But anyway,

557
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: I felt like real similar aesthetics, like they were in

558
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: the same world kind of vibe. Okay, God, that's wild,

559
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: all right. So Luigi and Mario jump through to this

560
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: alternate dimension which is similar to New York City, but

561
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: it's really kooky and some people look like reptiles and

562
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: everything is covered in ungus, and Mario and Luigi are like,

563
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: what the fuck? But they have to keep chasing the

564
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: goons who captured Daisy. Meanwhile, Coopa and his sidekick slash

565
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: girlfriend or I don't really know what their relationship is exactly,

566
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: It was unclear, but she definitely like it's that will

567
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: get back to her. But yeah, it's like she definitely

568
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: is primarily motivated by ambition, but it also does seem

569
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: like she's kind of in love with Dennis Hopper. Yes,

570
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: it does seem because she So this is Lena played

571
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: by Fiona Shaw, who some listeners might recognize as Aunt

572
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: Petunia from Harry Potter movies. Is that her most famous role?

573
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: That was what I recognized her? I guess I know

574
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: her from like Killing Eve. Oh. Yes, she's great in

575
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: killing Eve. Yeah, she's so good. She's great, and this

576
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: is this is like peak good villain costuming for her. Yes,

577
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: such good outfits. So Coopa and Lena reveal their plan.

578
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: So Coopa needs the missing piece of the meteorite that

579
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: had split the two dimensions because they're in the dimension

580
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: where the people evolved from reptiles. So Coopa hates mammals

581
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: because he's like a dinosaur man, and he also resents

582
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: that mammals get to live above ground with clean water

583
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: and fresh air, and that he and his reptile people

584
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: are stuck in this like seward dimension. So this piece

585
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: of the meteorite will help them merge the worlds because

586
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna like stick it in the big meteorite and

587
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna bring these two worlds together, and he wants

588
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: to who over everyone. And if you're if you don't understand,

589
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: that's fine, hell, like it doesn't really I can't really

590
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: get it out. It's like something about merging the word.

591
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: And then it gets really really heavy where it's like

592
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: we want to do it, and then there's like kind

593
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: of there's like some attempted commentary on like fascistic societies

594
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: because Kopa is like this fascist leader and then he's

595
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: trying to like brainwash people into being gumbas that don't

596
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: question him. And then he can also make people smarter.

597
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: But if you make them smarter, they've become socialist revolutionaries.

598
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: There's like a lot of like stuff going on. Correct,

599
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: and I liked it all. But it's like this, I

600
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: don't know if Mario is like able to handle this

601
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: level of commentary, but I like that they tried, right.

602
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: They're like this dinosaur realm is a police state and

603
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: Mario Luigi have to come in and dismantle it. Their

604
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: rest toad for singing like a Bob Dylan song about popa.

605
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: You're like, whoa this is? This is intense, it's wild.

606
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, So as Mario and Luigi are trying

607
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: to navigate through the chaos with being in this alternate dimension.

608
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: A woman with a red and very spiky outfit, yes,

609
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: the judge from Legally Blonde. Yes, great character actor a moment,

610
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Wait what is her? She was my favorite part of

611
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: the movie. I loved everything about her. Incredible, incredible Francescape Roberts, yes,

612
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: whose name we will learn is birth a little later on.

613
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: But she steals the necklace from Mario and Luigi. Well, really,

614
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: an old lady steals it, and then she comes along

615
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: and throws it. The old lady over a bridge and

616
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: steals it first. Yes, what a two punch. Women can

617
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: do anything. It's really We're still recording this during women's

618
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: history months, and in that moment I was like, wow,

619
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: I felt it. Yeah, girl power because the older lady,

620
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: I think, takes advantage of what the Mario's assume of her,

621
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: which is that she's weak and defenseless. And then she

622
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: mugs them and then Bertha throws her off, but he

623
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: continues to fight, and then Shop steals a car or something. Yeah,

624
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: that sequence was so fun. I loved it. It's great. Okay,

625
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: So then Mario and Luigi meet Toad, who is, like

626
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: you said, Jamie, like a musician who's singing songs. Very

627
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: weird adaptation of that character. Yes, like swirly hair. They didn't.

628
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: They made some choices on that one. Yeah, they shrink

629
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: anything about the care am I Like, I mean, I'm

630
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: not super well versed, but like, is there anything about

631
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: the character Toad that's like particularly musical or counterculture? It's like,

632
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: why did they make Toad is just like a little

633
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: dude who's like, here's the tutorial for the game. Right

634
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: in the later games, he like goes around exploring. He's

635
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: like a Captain Toad. But yeah, I was like, that's

636
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: the little guy that tells me what lap I'm on.

637
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: Exactly his job, queer icon Toad. He's just doing his job,

638
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: you know. But I mean I thought again, just like

639
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: another fun, weird swing that this movie makes you like, Yeah,

640
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I guess that he's an acoustic guitarist. Sure. Yes. So

641
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: they all get arrested and thrown in jail for like

642
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: no reason really, and Cooba shows up and he's like,

643
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: Mario and Luigi, give me that meteorite piece, and they're like,

644
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: we don't have it. So Coopa gets mad and d

645
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: evolves Toad because he has this machine where you can

646
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: either evolve or d evolve people, and so he d

647
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: evolves Towed into a reptile with a tiny head and

648
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: makes him join the Goomba army because in this version

649
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: of Mario, gumbas are not the little mushroom guys. No,

650
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: gumbas are fascist soldiers with tiny heads, very small, huge bodies,

651
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: tiny little heads. It's clearly an adult man sticking his

652
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: head up and controlling a puppet. Yes, which we love

653
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: to see. I wish we saw more of it, but

654
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: it's yeah. And then also the I mean again, like

655
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: they attempted, like they're like, but the goombas can't be

656
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: deep programmed by showings of human kindness or something because

657
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: they bring daisy vegetables. Well, that's that's toad goombah. Oh

658
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: that's just how the fuck am I. They gave him

659
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: a harmonica immediately, that's how you tpreciate it. Yeah, because

660
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: he's got the harmonica. Clearly, I'm not operating on the

661
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: intellectual level this movie is. I was like, wow, that's

662
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: so nice. There was a lot of layers going on

663
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: with the plot. I was just like, I'm here to vibe.

664
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: I'm not here to follow what's happening at any point. Yeah,

665
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I think that that's the intention, and if it isn't,

666
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: that's the way to best enjoy this movie. Well, I

667
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: was analyzing it through a like narrative storytelling screenwriting point

668
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: of view, and I was like, honestly, things track I'm following.

669
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: It's working for me. It basically works, and that's honest.

670
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: Even more than most movies do, and it's not boring,

671
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: And that's definitely. That's the thing. Is like, even if

672
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: the new Mario movie is good, I bet it will

673
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: be boring. Oh yeah, I think it's going to be

674
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: perfectly milk toast and a perfectly passable movie to watch

675
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: with your nephew. Yeah, which, fine, sure, whatever, No minions,

676
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: no minions, honey, I tell you what. Nothing. They're taking

677
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: risks over a minion, damn right, they're making swings. Yeah, okay.

678
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: So Mario and Luigi are like still being detained. They

679
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: fight back and escape in a stolen cop car and

680
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: they drive through a tunnel and end up in the desert. Also,

681
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: this thing keeps happening where it seems like the fungus

682
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: that's covering everything is like helping them and giving them

683
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: little trinkets that they are gonna use later, like little bombs. Yeah. Meanwhile,

684
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: Coopa decides to evolve Spike and Iggy to make them

685
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: smarter so that they'll be better at helping him. And

686
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: then Lena goes to Daisy and she's like, here's the

687
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: thing about your mother and father. Your father was the king.

688
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: Your mother is that lady who saw at the beginning

689
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: who left the egg at the church because she's trying

690
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: to keep her later egg in front of a bunch

691
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: of nuns, and so we realize, oh, Daisy, is this

692
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: like princess from this alternate realm? And Lena also tells

693
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Daisy that the reason Coopa wants her is that he

694
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: thinks Daisy is the only one who can merge the dimensions,

695
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: like her body can withstand the force that it will

696
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: take yourself, very like royalist, but you're like heat's Mario.

697
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I just gotta I just gotta roll with it. I

698
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: don't have time to think about royalist bloodline bullshit. I

699
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: can't do it. But you know. This is also when

700
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: Daisy meets a little dinosaur named Yoshi, who is nice

701
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: and who is also treated as Koopa's prisoner, so Yoshi

702
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: and Daisy become friends. Back in the desert, Mario and

703
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: Luigi run into the goons Spike and Iggy, who are

704
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: trying to get the meteorite piece still, then they all

705
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: head back into the city to take the meteorite piece

706
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: from the woman who stole it, Bertha, who works as

707
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: a bouncer at a nightclub. So Mario Luigi go to

708
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: the club Mario gets the necklace from Bertha by flirting

709
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: and dancing with her. They have a very sensual dance moment.

710
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: It's honestly, very well done. I was into it. Yeah,

711
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I loved it. Oh, I really loved it. Yeah, like

712
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: it was they played it straight in a way that

713
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: I was like, it's so cool that they hired like

714
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: mostly classically trained actors for this because they're not out

715
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: of context. You're like, this could be in so many

716
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: different movies. Yes, and I loved that Mario. Mario was like,

717
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: the way I'm gonna win over this woman's heart is

718
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: by being like, I am horny when you punch me,

719
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: Please keep doing that. And she's like, okay, big boy,

720
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: let's do it. And it works like a charm. But

721
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: also I'm like, I think he's kind of serious, right, Yes, yes,

722
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: so there's like a kink element to this movie too.

723
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: It's awesome, thrilling. Yes. Yeah, So he steals the necklace back.

724
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: She realizes what has happened, but she's like, shrug, they're

725
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: my friends now, So she helps them escape and also

726
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: steals a little kiss. Oh yeah, they kiss, but they

727
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: have to escape when Lena shows up with some goomba's

728
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: and immediately steals the media right necklace from Mario and Luigi,

729
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: so now Lena has it. Mario and Luigi show up

730
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: at Kopa's house slash head quarters slash layer whatever, suddenly

731
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: dressed in far more Mario and Luigi outfits that we

732
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: hadn't seen them in before. Yeah, they're wearing like really

733
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: generally nineties clothes up to this point. Yeah, there's a

734
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: scene in an elevator where they get the goombas to dance.

735
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: They really just like disarm a lot of the villains

736
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: by dancing with them, I realized, which is beautiful. Meanwhile,

737
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Lena approaches Daisy and she's about to stab Daisy, but

738
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Yoh saves her, Daisy escapes. Lena stabs Yoshi, but he

739
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: doesn't die. For some reason, I thought for sure he

740
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: and Lena died in that scene, but it turns out

741
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: they're both fine. And Yo, she's just wearing a little collar, yeah,

742
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: which then she just took off. It was like you've

743
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: been wearing the collar like you could have just taken

744
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: it off earlier. I was surprised that she was suddenly

745
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: able to take it off. Nothing really changed, that's true, No,

746
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: that was a little confusing to me, but I was

747
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: just like, honestly, I just I was. I was bummed

748
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: out when I thought Lena had died, and I was like, oh,

749
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess she made it great. No, she

750
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: just dies later, Yeah, in a really cartoony way. She's

751
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: just skeletonified. Yep. Okay, So Daisy with the help of

752
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: Goompa Toad and Iggy and Spike, who have turned on

753
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: Kopa and are now and are loyal to Daisy and

754
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: her father, the King, which is weird because it's like,

755
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: but they they're talking like their socialist revolutionaries, and it

756
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: was really funny where they're like they put you through

757
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: the smart machine. But then it's like but then they

758
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: also are like, we love the King, and I'm like,

759
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: put them through the smart machine one more time. Right,

760
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: They're going to see the means of productions down there

761
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: in Dino York exactly. So Iggy and Spike showed Daisy

762
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: her father, who is this giant blob of sentient fungus

763
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: wall and She's like, hi, Dad, He's just a throbbing

764
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: pile of sealing fungus. And I loved it. I loved it.

765
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: It's so the color is like nauseating. It's like dripping

766
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: goo everywhere, kind of is fleshy looking. I was just thinking,

767
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: like if I were a child, I think I would

768
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: be scared by the fungus. It wasn't even like fun

769
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: and cartoony. It was realistic and disgusting. Yes, yeah, like

770
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: it was like a throbbing flesh colored like yeah, fungus.

771
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: It was both wet and dry somehow. Wow, beetles, juice, come, scabs, vibes.

772
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: We don't have time, I can't, Okay, So Mario and

773
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Luigi reunite with Daisy. She introduces them to her fungus dad,

774
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: and then Mario goes to rescue his girlfriend, Daniella and

775
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: the other Brooklyn women who the goons had previously kidnapped,

776
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: thinking they were also Daisy. Amazing. They escape via sliding

777
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: down this huge icy pipe, and then Mario, Luigi, Daisy,

778
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: and Daniella they're like ready to go back to Brooklyn,

779
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: but oh no. Coopa finally gets his hand on the

780
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: meteorite piece and he's ready to like reunite the piece

781
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: with the rest of the meteorite. But then there's this

782
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: climactic scuffle where Mario is trying to stop Coopa. The

783
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: two dimensions start merging at one point. It's at this

784
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: point it is genuinely really confusing what is going on.

785
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: The third act really again falls apart, and the climax

786
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: is like, not that satisfying because it just like they

787
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: pretty easily are able to blow up Coopa with a

788
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: BA bomb and then they de evolve him into a

789
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: dinosaur and then Goo. But also they like defeat the

790
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: like mob boss in Brooklyn who is like the real

791
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: estate guy. Yeah, I de evolving him into a chimpanzee, right,

792
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: which was also like, okay, we'd solve that problem pretty

793
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: quick too, Like now we're gonna go back to the

794
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: underground world and I guess that's fine. Yeah, everything's great.

795
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: Um so every celebrating the fungus king returns to his

796
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: human self, and then Mario and Luigi go to leave

797
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: and return to Brooklyn, and Daisy's like, I'm gonna stay here,

798
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: and Luigi's like, damn, girl, but I love you and

799
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: she's like yeah, but I gotta figure out who I

800
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: am and he's like respect wow, so and sort of

801
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Mario says that for him, yeah, it's because Maria's an

802
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: ally and watching them kiss for a little too long,

803
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: but it's a horny movie, very horny. And then Mario

804
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: and Luigi go back to Brooklyn, back to their normal lives.

805
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Some time passes, and then one day Daisy shows up

806
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: at their door and it's like, you gotta come with

807
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: me and they're like okay, which is setting up a

808
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: sequel that never happens because this movie was a box

809
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: office flop. Yeah. Also, I did like the implication that

810
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, Cooper is dead, my dad's me back.

811
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: We got to rebuild the city. Things are gonna be

812
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: good again. And then she comes back like her clothes

813
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: are all torn, She's like covered in soot. She has

814
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: like this huge gun. She's like, I need your help.

815
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: It's like, what happened down there? Things are supposed to

816
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: get better, right right to people turned on the monarchy? Yeah,

817
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: maybe Spike and Iggy took over because they're just like

818
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: death to the king. Actually, shall we shall we take

819
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: a quick break and then come back to discuss many

820
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: of the complex themes in this an incredible movie. Yes,

821
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: let's we'll be right back, and we're back. I wanted

822
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: to talk about before we get into the deeply nuanced

823
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: discussion this movie requires, Yes, I want us to just

824
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: do some recaps of behind the scenes stuff that happened

825
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: in this movie. It is I think, equally notorious for

826
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: being a very messy behind the scenes story as it

827
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: is for being a movie that's considered to be bad.

828
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: There's a really good half hour short doc on it

829
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel Gaming Historian, where I learned a lot,

830
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: including it just like feels so of the time, the

831
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: way that they were trying to build this. They originally

832
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: hired the screenwriter for Rainman, Yes, to write the screenplay,

833
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: and then he was fired because they didn't like the

834
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: script because they said it was too similar to Rainman,

835
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: which I don't know what that means, to the point

836
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: where they called the script Drainman, which is funny because

837
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: of plumbing and pipes ha ha ha. But or is

838
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: this a bit no, this is true, This is like

839
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: really called it Drainman. Maybe it probably like has the

840
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: working title. That's still though, and I think that like

841
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: part of the reason this movie is so weird in

842
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: a way that we obviously like. But it's like this

843
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: was the first big Hollywood video game adaptation ever. I

844
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: think it was so poorly received at the time that

845
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: they didn't make another live action Nintendo movie until Detective

846
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: Pikachu over twenty five years later. Like this movie, it's

847
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: scared Nintendo big time in terms of like adapting their

848
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: properties into movies. But in any case, at the time,

849
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: it was seen like as experimental and like Mario is

850
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: like too big to fail. They're like, well, let's hire

851
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: some experimental filmmakers and like see what they do, because

852
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: that was sort of what was done at the time.

853
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't like, I think it was positioned as like

854
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: what a weird thing to do, but it's like giving

855
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Tim Burton Batman was weird and that worked out great,

856
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: and like there were sort of scrappy indie filmmakers that

857
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: were given these big properties and it would do well,

858
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: so like made sort of sense. They hired this director

859
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: turned producer named Roland Joffey, who had won an Academy

860
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: Award before for making a movie about genocide and Cambodia.

861
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: So again it's just like which I'm sure is a

862
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: great movie, but it doesn't seem like a natural fit

863
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: for the Super Mario Brothers movie, but they give it

864
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: to him. He hires the screenwriter from rain Man, like

865
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: it just seems all bizarre. They hire the production designer

866
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: from Blade Runner, which I think is why this movie

867
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: looks so cool. Yeah, they hire an Academy Award winning

868
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: cinematographer as well, and then they end up like they

869
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: have trouble with casting because Nintendo has opinions on who

870
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: should play Mario who shouldn't. Dustin Hoffman almost played Mario,

871
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: which I think would have been fun, but also I

872
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: guess if the Rainman issue was already an issue, that

873
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: would not help. I don't know. And then Tom Hanks

874
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: was almost Mario. I think that would have sucked. That

875
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: would have been normal, too normal, you know what I mean. Yeah,

876
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: Mario shouldn't be like I don't know, Bob Hoskins makes

877
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: more sense. The only person who would make more sense

878
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: than Bob Hoskins is Danny DeVito, who was offered the

879
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: part and turned it down because he's at the screen

880
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: sucked because he's a discerning king. And then Coopa they

881
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,959
Speaker 1: wanted Arnold Schwarzenegger or Michael Keaton, and then they didn't

882
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: want anyone for Luigi except John Leguizamo, I'm pretty sure,

883
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: which is great. In any case, they ended up hiring

884
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: there's two directors on this movie. It's a married couple,

885
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: Rocky Morton and Annabelle Jankel, so we're like, Yay, there's

886
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: a woman director on this movie. But unfortunately they're both evil.

887
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: They were very hated by everyone. It sounds like they were. So.

888
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: They were most famous for inventing Max's Headroom, like we're

889
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. They didn't have feature experience. They'd done

890
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: like a bunch of very like eighties nineties gen X

891
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: experimental music videos and shit like that, and then they

892
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: were like, sure, we'll do like the Tim Burton thing

893
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: and give you this big movie to direct, which they

894
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: were bad at. Everyone in the cast started drinking during

895
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: the day all the time. They called each other cruel names.

896
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: The directors, I guess, were really demanding and also didn't

897
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: know what they were doing. They were being very disrespectful

898
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: to these like incredibly well regarded like cinematographers and production

899
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: designers they had hired and were micromanaging people who knew

900
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: what they were doing more than they did. It said

901
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: that Rocky Morton poured hot coffee on an extra. John

902
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: Leguizamo said that why they there's five hundred different versions

903
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: of the story. Ultimately, it seems like he was mean,

904
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: cartoonishly mean. At some point, like in production they wouldn't

905
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: let the director talk to the writers anymore because the

906
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: directors were constantly trying to get shit rewritten. The movie

907
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: was rewritten almost every day, Like everyone was miserable. Yeah,

908
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: John Leguizamo and Bob Hoskins are drunk during basically every

909
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: shot of this movie, to the point where John Leguizamo

910
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: like almost I don't know if he broke Bob hoskins

911
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: leg or what happened, but like Bob Haskins was wearing

912
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: a cast for a lot of the movie. It's just

913
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: seems like it was pretty horrific. Yeah, Hoskins said, oh, yes,

914
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: give me that quote. I love that quote. The worst

915
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: thing I ever did Super Mario Brothers. It was a

916
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: fucking nightmare. The whole experience was a nightmare. It had

917
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: a husband and wife team directing whose arrogance had been

918
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: mistaken for talent after so many weeks, their own agent

919
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: told them to get off the set. Fucking nightmare. And

920
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: then Dennis Hopper, who, by the way, I feel like

921
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: is playing a similar villain to the villain he played

922
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: a few years earlier in Speed he was like invoking

923
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: some of that. He also thought it was quote a nightmare.

924
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: It was a husband and wife directing team who were

925
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: both control freaks and wouldn't talk before they made decisions.

926
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: We've all been around couples like that. I think, yeah,

927
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: just a fucking nightmare. So I think I'm which always

928
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: kind of elevates the fact them. Like all things considered,

929
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: I don't think it turned out that bad if people

930
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: were that fucking miserable the whole time. There was also

931
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: like I was looking for pictures of them. I couldn't

932
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: find them, But I guess that they the crew hated

933
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: these directors so much that they started like making T

934
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: shirts that openly and they would wear them to set,

935
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: like it was like, oh my god, hated these directors.

936
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: It just seemed it seemed like they were really in

937
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: the trenches over there. Whenever you like hear about these

938
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: super toxic working environments, it always just is like it's

939
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: wild to see like people at their limits, Like these

940
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: are people on their worst behavior and it makes everyone

941
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: on their worst behavior, and then they do just wild

942
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: things like that where they're like I'm gonna make a

943
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: T shirt just to tell my boss to go fund themselves,

944
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Like that is just wild. There is something. Yeah, it

945
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: was like I know, like we've all been in like

946
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: whatever job it is for you that you're like, this

947
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: is where I really became a different version of myself

948
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: because I was so upset about where I was working.

949
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: And there is like something so powerful about bonding with

950
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: co workers who are miserable in the same exact way

951
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: you do, or you are and like are mad at

952
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: the same authority figure you are, and then you make

953
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: a T shirt sometimes off good. I would love to

954
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: see this t shirt. Anyways, that's the background of this movie.

955
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: Can I share a couple additional things that I learned? Yeah,

956
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: this one is just a fun fact. A lot of

957
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: different screenwriters were brought on to write a draft and

958
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: then fired basically, and then another screenwriting team or duo

959
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: would be brought on too, you know, write the next draft.

960
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: So one of these screenwriting teams that wrote a draft

961
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: of the movie later said that essentially what we did

962
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: was what Shrek did. How so they because their version

963
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: was a take that was like subverting fairy tale cliches

964
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: in satirizing them. So that's that fun fact. At another point,

965
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: a different writing team was brought on. This was Dick

966
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: Clement and Ian La friends of Lafrenis. I'm not sure, Lass,

967
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. They were brought on to deliver And

968
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm pulling this from scholarly journal Wikipedia of course, which,

969
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: by the way, the Wikipedia entry for this movie is

970
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: one of the longest Wikipedia entries for a movie that

971
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: I have ever seen. Oh, I mean there's people love

972
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: talking about disaster sets. Yeah, yes, so there's a lot here.

973
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: But anyway, so this screenwriting tream was brought on to

974
00:59:55,040 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: deliver a more adult and feminist tone where the version

975
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: that they wrote Princess Daisy and Lena's roles were expanded,

976
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: and they were the ones who added the character of Bertha,

977
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: and it was their script that finally convinced Bob Hoskins

978
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: to take on the role of Mario. I'm not totally

979
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: sure how much the script was rewritten after that draft,

980
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: but it seems like probably significantly. Probably, But also I

981
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: would guess that, like an earlier draft, Lena's role might

982
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: have been scaled back, and so like her prominence in

983
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: the movie that we see, I wonder if that was

984
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: like thanks to this draft of the screenplay. I hope, so,

985
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and also I mean, we'll talk about this

986
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: in a little bit, but like Daisy, I don't know,

987
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: that's why I was like, I feel like Daisy seems

988
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: like maybe a victim of a lot of rewrites where

989
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: she starts out as a super like motivated and smart

990
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: and cool character and then she's like she disappears for

991
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: a pretty big chunk, but then she comes back at

992
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: the end and like becomes a more active character at

993
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: the end. But she's kind of like, I mean, I

994
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: guess that's like the most Mario thing in the world

995
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: to do is to have a princess in a tower.

996
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: That's cannon. But I did appreciate that, Like, it wasn't

997
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: just like we're gonna put her in a tower for

998
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: most of the movie and she won't have a personality

999
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah. Like she had a

1000
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: lot of cool stuff going on. Yeah, this isn't a

1001
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: side that this soldis reminded me of. But have y'all

1002
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: ever played or do you know about the one Princess

1003
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: Peach game that they made? No? Never played it. No,

1004
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: it was for the Nintendo DS. I did play it

1005
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: and loved it, but it is like the only one

1006
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: where Princess peaches a protagonist. She's proactive and her powers

1007
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: no joke are is like her emotions. She's very emotional,

1008
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: social cry and it'll like flood, she'll get overly angry

1009
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: in line on fire. So it's a little bit of controversy.

1010
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: I like, you made the one woman character like overly

1011
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: emotional and that's her skill. But I don't know if

1012
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: that's just reminded me of that that is fascinating. I

1013
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: was like, I think I need the weekends to cook

1014
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: on how I feel about that? So wid um well,

1015
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, and in that way, this movie

1016
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: does better than that. Like she has she's a woman

1017
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: in stem she's a woman. She's running as like an

1018
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: undergrad running her own paleontology department because she's like twenty,

1019
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: so she's probably like a sophomore or junior or something.

1020
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: But she's like, no, I'm I'm leading this project of

1021
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: this like intensive New York City dinosaur find Yeah You're like, yeah, sure, great,

1022
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was great. Like I like that

1023
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: it's also rooted in like who she is as a character,

1024
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: Like it makes sense that she's interested in dinosaurs. She's

1025
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: part dinosaur questions. I didn't even think about that. Yeah,

1026
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: not really sure, but it feels like they really thought

1027
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: it through. And with her relationship with Luigi, like he

1028
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: is doing the like auga cartoon wolf eyes at her

1029
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: at first, but I thought in general he was so

1030
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: he was very sweet to her, is very polite. He

1031
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: really liked her for her. They go at an actual date. Yeah,

1032
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: like he's interested and who she's like. It makes I

1033
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: liked that they connected on like not knowing who their

1034
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: real parents were. It just felt like a real cute relationship.

1035
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: I loved it. I am so here for this romance. Yeah. Yeah,

1036
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: like you said, he's he's so sweet to her. She's

1037
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: like insecure about what she does for a living slash

1038
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: her academic pursuits. You probably think him weird that I'm

1039
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: a twenty year old dinosaur genius and he's like, no,

1040
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: I think it's so freaking awesome. And so he's like

1041
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: interested in her work and her mind. And I love

1042
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: that moment with them on the sidewalk where they both

1043
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, if you if you think I suck

1044
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not cool, like you can totally like bail

1045
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: right now and that would be fine, and then she

1046
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: she's like I was gonna say the same thing, like

1047
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: if you want to bail on me, Like that's totally cool.

1048
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: I just thought that was so sweet. I was like, oh,

1049
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: but you guys are so great together. I loved them.

1050
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: It's and then when she introduces Luigi to her fungus dad,

1051
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, it's such an honor to

1052
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: meet you. She had this like ball of goo. He's

1053
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: so cute, so sweet. I also love that they didn't

1054
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: make Mario the one who was gonna like get the

1055
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: girl at the end, like he's like, I got a

1056
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: steady girlfriend. I might kiss the judge from Legally Blonde

1057
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: on the side, but like I'm covered, I'm good, I'm

1058
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: here for my little bro. And I really liked that.

1059
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was really sweet. Yeah, and his relationship

1060
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: with Daniella. I mean, even though Daniella doesn't get the

1061
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: same emphasis or like character development that Daisy does, it

1062
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: seems like they have a good relationship. And then I've

1063
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: been together for a long time. I do wish her

1064
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: name is Peach though yeah, right, I know, I don't

1065
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: know what. But then but they really like doubled down

1066
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: on they're like they're just in Brooklyn. It's just Brooklyn

1067
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three, because there's a bunch of I mean, yeah,

1068
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was expecting to not be into

1069
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: any of the romantic pairings introduced in this movie, but

1070
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: I thought, especially for nineteen ninety three, you're like, this

1071
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: is really sweet. They're like very affectionate, sweet partners. I

1072
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: just wish that like that Daisy and Daniella got to

1073
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: like participate in the action. Yeah, right, more or at all.

1074
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: Daisy has moments. I mean, she doesn't really participate in

1075
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: the action. She does have because it's like at the

1076
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: beginning she is very motivated and does a lot of stuff.

1077
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: Then she's kidnapped and is kind of sidelined for a

1078
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: good chunk of the movie, and then we basically just

1079
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: see her talking to Yoshi, which kind of gave me

1080
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: like Jasmine from Aladdin vibes where she's like, it's just

1081
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: me and my animal and we're trapped here and we're

1082
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: just gonna have little conversations and you're like okay, and

1083
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: then you get a little bit of her in Lena.

1084
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: I thought those conversations were pretty cool where I think

1085
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes you're like programmed with the expectation

1086
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: of like, oh, Lena will probably like feel bad for

1087
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: her and act maternally and blah blah blah. But Lena's like, no,

1088
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: I want to merge the worlds or whatever that plot

1089
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: point is, and I'll kill anyone who's in my way

1090
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, And so you know, I thought that

1091
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: was fine, But then she doesn't really get to physically

1092
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: do anything again until she breaks out of the tower.

1093
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: But I was also honestly surprised that she breaks out

1094
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: of the tower. Yeah, mostly with the help well, because

1095
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: she keeps getting saved and then recaptured, But I don't

1096
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: think at any point she was actually like physically saved

1097
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: by Mario and Luigi. Okay, So, I mean the whole

1098
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: premise of both this movie and Mario Games in general

1099
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: is like, oh, we have to save the princess from

1100
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: Bowser or Cooper or you know whoever has kidnapped the princess,

1101
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: and usually it's Princess Peach. If we're talking about the

1102
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: video games. In this movie, it's Daisy, who is like

1103
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: Daisy canonically Luigi's girlfriend in the games. I mean, I

1104
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: think she's like the bee. I don't think anyone's canonically.

1105
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Peach kind of is canonic. There's

1106
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: like weird canonical stuff with the girlfriends, where like Bowser

1107
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: Junior is maybe Peach's baby. There's like I think it's

1108
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: in Mario Sunshine. There's like a cut scene where Bowser

1109
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: it was like she got kidnapped by Bowser, and then

1110
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: later Bowser Junior sees Peach and he's like Mommy, She's

1111
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: like whoa. But anyway, it's all to say, I don't

1112
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: know how much of the canonical relationships that there is,

1113
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: but I do think Daisy is the Luigi to Mario's Peach. Sure,

1114
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: So the premise of Games and this movie is like

1115
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: we have to save the princess who has been kidnapped

1116
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: and damseled, and then also like we have to save

1117
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: Daniella and the other women from Brooklyn who had been kidnapped.

1118
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: So the main like again narrative thrust of the movie

1119
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: is like he's trying to bring narrative thrust back, and

1120
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: it's the inciting incident is like Daisy getting kidnapped and

1121
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 1: Mario and Luigi having to like go into the alternate

1122
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: dimension to save her, and most of the movie is

1123
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: them trying to save her, which so it's a very

1124
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: like damsel and distress narrative. And I do think that

1125
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: there probably was a way to like remain I don't know,

1126
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: like I there's so many elements of this movie that

1127
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: are in no way faithful to the Mario franchise that

1128
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: am like, well why is that? I mean, like that

1129
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: element they keep pretty intact, although they again like they

1130
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: did more with it than I thought they would, but

1131
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: it is still like she's trapped in a tower for

1132
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Daniella, poor Daniella, is kidnapped, and

1133
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: you think that's the inciting incident, but it's not because

1134
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: Mario doesn't even know what happens until the end of

1135
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: the movie. He has no idea. I also think there's

1136
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: ways to kidnap a character, specifically a woman, but not

1137
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: completely damsel her. So if they want to remain like

1138
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: faithful to the source material of like the Princess gets kidnapped,

1139
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: she can still be far more active in the story,

1140
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 1: and she can do things to save herself and make

1141
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: active choices that don't just completely leave her as a

1142
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: like a helpless damsel right. They also had like the

1143
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: whole necklace plot too, so there could have definitely been

1144
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: a world too where like she saves herself, where like

1145
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: she can steal the neck for herself and then they

1146
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: can help break her out or something where it's like

1147
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: she you know, because there are two things they need saving, right,

1148
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: aren't just like the girl? And then you know it's

1149
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: also the necklace too. Yeah, that's a kind of another

1150
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: missed opportunity where she's supposed to have this like vague

1151
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: special ability to merge the world that maybe she could

1152
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: have like made some use of to get herself out

1153
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,480
Speaker 1: of the tower. Like if she's able to merge dimensions,

1154
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: why she's stuck in the tower? Right seems a little Yeah,

1155
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: Like I definitely think that there's things that could and

1156
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: should have been done different. And it's also like it

1157
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: wasn't like she wasn't set up with a lot of abilities.

1158
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: I was surprised that her like paleontology skills didn't come

1159
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: back more meaningfully either, other than like she's like uniquely

1160
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: able to like connect with Yoshi. I think it's implied

1161
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: because she like understands dinosaurs, but like outside of that,

1162
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: it's like you're in Dino World, you should be like

1163
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: uniquely useful here, but they but they don't really use

1164
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: that for a big chunk the movie. That's why Drassic

1165
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: Park works so well. The people who were in the

1166
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: park are dinosaur experts. Even the kids can't. He read

1167
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: a book about dinosaurs, so he knows what's what. So yeah,

1168
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: I think that there there were And again it's just

1169
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I know this movie was written fifty times,

1170
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 1: and it seems like there were. I would guess that

1171
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: there's versions of this where she was more active in

1172
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 1: the second act, and that is just like not the

1173
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: version we saw, which is a bummer because I really

1174
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: liked how they set up her character to the point

1175
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: where I didn't like feel like the romance subplot was

1176
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: like taking up too much air. It felt earned. But

1177
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: then she just disappears for a big chunk, and poor Daniella, yes,

1178
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: is even worse off. Even though I think Daniella, I

1179
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: think it would have been really easy to write her reductively,

1180
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've seen like Lady from Brooklyn,

1181
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: characters written off very reductively, but she's seen like I mean,

1182
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: she has written to be like I think she works

1183
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: at a Tanning salon is what we're told and when

1184
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: she and I liked that she and Daisy were both

1185
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: really different, but they like got along fine. They like

1186
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: seemed to you know, Like I liked what Danielle was

1187
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: like to set up the fact that she's wearing a meteorite,

1188
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: says like, oh, you should come to the Tanning salon.

1189
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: You'll have to take off that meteorite. Though. It's like

1190
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: a nice set up. But I like that it's like

1191
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: she's like a working class person as well, but like

1192
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: she's not made fun of or like made out to

1193
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: seem like a bimbo or anything like that. And none

1194
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: of the women from Brooklyn are really I mean, they're

1195
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: like maybe a little cartoonish, you could argue, and they

1196
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: all are damseled. I like that they were friends with

1197
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: each other though they didn't start like fighting in the

1198
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: prison or anything. And even the one who's like, well,

1199
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: she's from Queens and they like kind of rib her,

1200
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: but it's like all in good fun. I thought that

1201
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: was very charming, but we like her though. Yeah, And

1202
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: I also like that they somehow guts to keep cigarettes

1203
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: for the entire it was so funny. They keep each

1204
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: other warm, when they freeze the pipes. Yeah, Daisy is

1205
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: happy to see Daniella, even though they're like being held

1206
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: hostage together. It's like, oh, these women like each other.

1207
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: They get along. It's sweet, like and again it's like,

1208
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: could there be more done? Yes? Do I think that

1209
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: Mario needed to show up to save them? No, it

1210
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: seems like they probably could have broken out. I think

1211
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been bumped by them like a bunch

1212
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: of like brassy women from Brooklyn escaping Lizard Jail, Like

1213
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: that would fucking rule. I would love to see that

1214
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: there's only one goomba there that they have to they

1215
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: would have to have dealt with He's out numbered, right,

1216
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, I think that they probably that

1217
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: would have been a cool moment for Daniella to kind

1218
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: of like Unsinkable Molly Brown the situation and be like,

1219
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: let's get the fuck out of here. Because the second

1220
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: Mario shows up, they are immediately like active in their

1221
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: own escape and they're just like, well, maybe like he

1222
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 1: didn't even need to be there. That would have been

1223
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: a fun fun scene to have. But I did like

1224
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: that they were like, I mean, they like battering rammed

1225
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: their way out of there. And then went down the

1226
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: weird snow tunnel. I don't know. Again, I'm like points

1227
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: for effort more than I expected, but it was there

1228
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: were a lot of cool ways that could have gone

1229
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: for sure. The other big thing that I thought was

1230
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: pretty tropy as far as the portrayal of different female

1231
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: characters was with Lena, and I appreciate that there's like

1232
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: a female villain in the mix, but her thing becomes

1233
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: that she gets jealous of Daisy because Daisy shows up

1234
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: in the dimension, Coopa starts paying a lot of attention

1235
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: to Daisy. He's also like, have you ever been kished

1236
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 1: by a dinosaur? And then his face turns into a

1237
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: lizard for a second, he tries to kiss her. Oh

1238
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: my god. He's like, little girls never forget their first

1239
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: time a lizard kisses them. What is this dialog? So weird?

1240
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: But so he's like in the gross, like villainy way,

1241
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: but he's like enamored with Daisy, and Lena is like Jafari,

1242
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Jafar esque, And because she's like in love

1243
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: with Coopa question mark, she gets really jealous of all

1244
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 1: the attention that Kopa is paying to Daisy, so she

1245
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: decides to like strike out on her own. She goes

1246
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: and is able to get the necklace. She loses it

1247
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: but then gets it back in the third act, and

1248
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: then she tries to put it in the meteorite, she

1249
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: gets fried and becomes a skeleton. So it does kind

1250
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: of seem like a yeah, like she there were sequences

1251
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: where she was clearly jealous that, but again, it was

1252
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: like it always felt like that character was a kind

1253
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: of weirdly written and Fianaa Shaw makes it work because

1254
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: she's herself, but like, it felt like there were always

1255
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: two things going on with her at the same time.

1256
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 1: It sometimes got confusing where it was like she was

1257
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,799
Speaker 1: in love with Kopa but also she like craved Koopa's power,

1258
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: and I feel like it could have worked. It would

1259
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: have been easier for me if she just like wanted

1260
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: power and that would make most of her stuff make

1261
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: more sense, or like, I don't know, the being in

1262
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: love with Kopa and jealous of Daisy stuff just like

1263
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: didn't quite track for me. I felt like it was

1264
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: just it makes more sense if she's just like completely

1265
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: driven by a need for power and ambition, because the

1266
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: way her story ends does feel like a killed by

1267
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: ambition kind of trophy like thing because at the end

1268
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: she's like, no one's gonna help me. I'm gonna emerge

1269
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: the world. And there's whatever we could talk about movies

1270
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: where women are killed by their own ambition another day,

1271
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: because this is like not the beat. I mean, that's

1272
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: like some fatal attraction shit, right, But like Lena can't

1273
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: have it all, but she's she basically wants to be

1274
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: like the queen of fascism and it kills her, and

1275
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: that is a more like clean effective storyline than like

1276
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: and also I want Dennis Hopper to give me a

1277
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: little kiss or like, right, and I'm gonna be jealous,

1278
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm at any other woman in the room, when realistically,

1279
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: if she's just driven by power, she would like having

1280
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: Daisy on her side is incredibly useful. Like if she

1281
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: has Daisy as an ally and shows Daisy kindness while

1282
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: she's being held prisoner, then that gives her a leg

1283
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: up over Koopa and the story could kind of play

1284
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: out a little differently, right, But whatever I thought, Fianna

1285
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: shot did a great job. And in terms of villainous outfits,

1286
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,839
Speaker 1: I left satisfied her outfits, her makeup, her hair, blue dress, everything.

1287
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: When she got electrocuted her hair when all while that

1288
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: was fun. Oh yeah, it's like Glen Close, Corrella de Ville,

1289
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: It's great. I loved Kopa's hair, the like bleached like yeah,

1290
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: we can't really do corn rows, but we'll do like

1291
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, there's like there's a dinosaur

1292
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: that has a head like that. I'll take your word

1293
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: for it. Was like if they're they're they were going

1294
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, it's like a ridged cranial thing and

1295
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: they're like, let's do that with his hair. So I think,

1296
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: like a like all of the women we've discussed so far, Lena,

1297
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: they could have done better, but they did better than

1298
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: I thought I expected for nineteen ninety three. Yes, yeah.

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01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: The last thing I wanted to say about Daisy is

1300
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: I did like that Yo, she brought her a gun.

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01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: That was cool and I loved that. Why did they

1302
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: always it was like the way you worked the TV

1303
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: was like you held a gun to it. Like there's

1304
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: at one point looking Koopa was like ordering a pizza,

1305
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: but he was holding a gun at this like video

1306
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: call and it felt like he was like robbing someone

1307
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: through a video call, and I was like, what is

1308
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: happening here? No idea, And then there's that iconic Kopa

1309
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 1: line at the end of the movie where they're like

1310
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: zip zab zopping between the two dimensions. You're like, what

1311
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? But then at one point

1312
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: Dennis Hoppers like, give me that evil gun starts shooting Mario.

1313
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: You're like, what is happening? Um? I loved that line.

1314
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: I hope it was improvised when Dennis Hopper was drunk

1315
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: at work. Give me that. I also, can we talk

1316
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: about Mario and Luigi's like special handshake which just seems

1317
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: to be a high five or they intertwined their fingers

1318
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: and kind of like wiggle it around very half past Yeah,

1319
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: I was, I was even remember this. It had a

1320
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: weird handshake where they It was bizarre but mostly pretty subtle.

1321
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: I honestly assumed that that was a game thing, because

1322
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: I was like, that's weird. I guess that that looks

1323
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: better in cartoon form than in real life. That's bizarre. Yeah,

1324
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: I assumed that was like a holdover from the game

1325
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: that I just didn't remember. I don't think. So. There

1326
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: is a moment where you do find out that Mario

1327
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: that Mario and Luigi aren't like biological brothers that like

1328
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: that Mario took daddy yeah, and then Luigi's like yeah,

1329
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: Mario was like my mom and Mario was like no,

1330
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: he said, okay, fine, you were like my dad, and

1331
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: it's like they're too just and my uncle and everything else.

1332
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah you guys. Um, there was like yeah,

1333
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 1: there's a few very nineties like the one like nineties

1334
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: no homo joke I picked up on was when Luigi

1335
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: was like, I don't hang out at flower shops and

1336
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: You're like, what is this? Oh? I really missed that.

1337
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: It's just like so I was like, wow, people really

1338
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: could not relax at this time, like I don't hang

1339
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: out at flower shops or nothing. I'm like, relax, Luigi,

1340
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: hang out at flower shops. I bet you'd like it. Yeah,

1341
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: they're nice, they smell good. Yeah, i'mlike toilets, which is

1342
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: where you hang out most of the time. Flowers are

1343
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: Mario cannon because of the like the Piranha flower. It's true, yes,

1344
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: the fireflower, and yes, do we talk about big birth

1345
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: I really quick? Yes, Um, I love her. I love

1346
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: her too. I didn't realize that she was based on

1347
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: a Mario character. Can someone explain that to me was

1348
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: she Yes, I think that she's like styled after a

1349
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: fish character. Wait, let's yes, they like jump out of

1350
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: the water. Yeah, yes, I know this fish. I mean,

1351
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: but if I didn't look that up, I would not

1352
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: have known that, I think, And it really seemed mainly

1353
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: seems like her dress is inspired by that, and then

1354
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: there's kind of little else. But I did want to

1355
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: say that she's styled after a big fish. I see.

1356
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: And you can make of that what you what you will,

1357
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: but that's what I learned. I love her character though

1358
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: she's like the most um. She and the the nameless

1359
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: older woman who gets thrown off of a bridge by

1360
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: her and are the most like actiony, like big Bertha.

1361
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: It's so weird because I think Bertha gets like the

1362
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: widest range of things to do of any woman in

1363
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: the script, possibly because she has big action sequence. She

1364
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 1: like steals the thingy that everyone needs. She gets like

1365
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: a rome essensual romance scene. She like assists the heroes

1366
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: and like it's a small part and she doesn't speak

1367
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: a lot, which kind of especially sucks, as I think

1368
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: the only black woman with a meaningful part in the movie. Yeah,

1369
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: but with I mean with the time she has on screen,

1370
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like she's got range. There's a lot going on

1371
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: with her. I loved her, she's doing her outfit. I

1372
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure why after she realizes that Mario stole

1373
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: the necklace back that she was completely fine with it.

1374
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: But I also don't know why she stole the necklace

1375
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: in the first place. So you know, I kind of

1376
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: figured that was like a rules of the town. Everyone's

1377
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: sealing for everyone, So it was kind of a respecting

1378
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: of like, oh, you stole for me. That's sort of

1379
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: the vibe I got from it. Game recognizes game, Yeah, yeah, exactly,

1380
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: and I like, we said I love that when so

1381
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: Mario tries to like seduce her at first in like

1382
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: a more traditional like hey babe, how you do in

1383
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: kind of thing, and then she responds by punching him

1384
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: in the face. He goes, oh, wow, maybe she's shy.

1385
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: So then he goes back up to her and he's like,

1386
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: I've loved it when you punched me in the face,

1387
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Please do it again. And then she's like, let's dance. Dance.

1388
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: It's like one of the best scenes in the movie.

1389
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 1: And then yeah, after that, she's their ally like she

1390
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: helps them escape, she gives them flying boots question Mark,

1391
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: and then she shows up again at the end during

1392
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: the climax and does something to help also, but I forget.

1393
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: Does anyone remember what she does? I forget, but she

1394
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: shows up. Maybe she doesn't even do anything, but she's

1395
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: just like whoo, and you know, not everything she doesn't

1396
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: make sense necessarily, but I love that she's there. I

1397
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: also appreciate it's not unique in this movie. A lot

1398
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: of people are doing shit that makes no sense, right.

1399
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: I also love that she wasn't like, Okay, well I

1400
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: danced with Mario, so now he's my boyfriend forever. She's

1401
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, we just had this nice moment and

1402
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: now we're buds. Yeah. That shot of her when she

1403
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: realizes he stole the necklace and it pulls out and

1404
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: she's like, where did he get us? Kind of broke

1405
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: my heart, I'll be honest. But she bounced back pretty quick. Yeah,

1406
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: and she's a bouncer, so she was a bouncer. I

1407
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: get him. I really loved her. I would watch a

1408
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: hole spin off about that movie. I was also thinking

1409
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: I would love to see John Leguizamo reprise his role

1410
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: of Luigi in a live action Luigi's mansion. It would

1411
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: be so good. Yeah, haunted house, he'd be so good.

1412
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: I got the pipes in a haunted house, it would

1413
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: be so good. Another thing I learned from scholarly journal

1414
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Wikipedia is that so John logiz Almo like once he

1415
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: was cast as Louis, he made a joke to the

1416
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: effect that he's like, oh, you know, you see a

1417
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: lot of Italians playing Latin people in movies, like how

1418
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: al Pacino did in Scarface. Now it's our turn because

1419
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 1: he's a Latin actor playing an Italian. Wow. So he

1420
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 1: rocks so much. He really is the best. I wanted

1421
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: to I think that's everything I have, which is good

1422
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: because I know we're running short on time. I just

1423
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: wanted to shout out the two lines in this movie

1424
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 1: that reminded me of other things. Yes, like a genius

1425
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: would so there was. There is the line where Luigi

1426
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: says I'm flying Mario, and like, can someone edit that

1427
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: into the scene from Titanic? I would never stop laughing.

1428
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: If Kate Winslet's mouth opens and John Legozama's Luigi voice

1429
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: comes out, I would just never stop laughing. The other line,

1430
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 1: this is a deep cut, This is did anyone else

1431
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: pick up on like the Twilight sounding moment in this movie? What? Oh,

1432
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: there's okay? So when Yoshi first comes in and Daisy's like,

1433
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: what is this? And then Kofa's like, go ahead and

1434
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: say it, and then she says dinosaur just like I

1435
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: was like, and then you're just like, climb on spider Monkey. Yes,

1436
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: I yeah, I was really sent to another time in

1437
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: that moment. Uh So yeah, if anyone's in the mood

1438
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: to edit that first, get on that right now. I

1439
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: think in that one, I would want the Twilight voices

1440
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: edited into Super Mario. That's the funnier. But I'm open

1441
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: to options. Um, and those are my last scholarly about

1442
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 1: this movie. Yeah, that was all I had. Have you,

1443
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: was there anything else you wanted to touch on? No?

1444
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was so fun. I really found it.

1445
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: Every choice I thought was inspired. I had a much

1446
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: better time than I was expecting, because I don't always

1447
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: love like, oh it's so bad, it's good. I'm like,

1448
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: let's just watch something that's good then. But I thought

1449
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: this was legitimately like pretty fun, a lot of fun choices.

1450
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: I think, if you're going to reimagine Mario in a

1451
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: live action setting. I think this is the way to

1452
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: do it well. I would love for this style of

1453
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: like big swing adaptation to come back. Things are getting

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: so stale, so boring, even when they're good, I forget

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01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: about it immediately. Yeah, give me John Lake Wisama's Luigi's

1456
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: Mansion directed by an absolute freak that would make me

1457
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: like Juliet Ducardo's Luigi's Mansion. Like. Okay, okay, we can

1458
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: workshop ideas, but in any case, does this movie pass

1459
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: the Bechdel test? I believe it does. Does. Between Daisy

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01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: and to Daisy and Daniellow, they do pass. Yeah, when

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01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: they talk about the tannings on and that's a very

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01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: important line of dialogue sets up the necklace, and Daisy

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01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: and Lena I believe, are talking about power and legacy

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01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: nine stuff like that. And then possibly I don't know

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01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: if we I don't remember if we get names for

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01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn gals, But if we do, then there's a

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01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: few exchanges with them that pass us well. True, but yeah,

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01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's not a lot, but it's more

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01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: than I expected, which brings us to the one true metric,

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01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: the Nipple scale, where we rate the movie on the

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01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: scale of zero to five nipples based on examining it

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01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: through an intersectional feminist lens. Um. Here's the thing. There's

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01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: a lot of tropes at play in this movie, namely

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01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: that several women are kidnapped and damseled and don't really

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01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: do anything to save themselves. And then you have the

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01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: female villain being very jealous of another woman in a

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01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: way that feels like I'm a male writer and I

1478
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: don't know how women interact except to be jealous of

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01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: each other, so I'm going to write that. So those

1480
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: things felt very trophy, but it was doing better than

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01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: I thought it would for a movie that's based on

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01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: a property that completely hinges on a man having to

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01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: save a woman. It's like Mario's whole thing as he

1484
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 1: has to defeat the villains to save Peach. So while

1485
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: that is also basically present in the movie, I was like, Oh,

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01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: at least there's like other female characters that I wasn't

1487
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: expecting to be there. They're not doing that much, or

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01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: at least not Daisy. Bertha does a fair amount of

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01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: things that affect the plot, as does Lena. Danielle is

1490
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: not as much, but watch the spinoff whatever, right, right?

1491
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: So I would give this two nipples. Still not doing great,

1492
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 1: but hey, hey better than I thought. Right amount nipples?

1493
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: If you ask me good number nipples, I will give

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01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: one to Bertha. I will give one two Yoshi. He's

1495
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: an feminist icon. Yes, I it is April Fools Week

1496
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: on the Bechdel Cast, and so yeah, because I had

1497
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: such a killer time watching this movie. I think we've

1498
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: appropriately kind of deconstructed the reasons that you know it

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01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: works or doesn't and for for our purposes. But I'm

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01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: giving it five nipples because I had a hello of

1501
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: the time and it's the first week in April, and

1502
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: fuck you, I loved it. I thought it was great.

1503
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: And they really shouldn't have poured hot coffee on that

1504
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: guy that was fucked up. So maybe I'll dock a

1505
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: half nipple because for the hot coffee incident that was bad.

1506
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: So four and a half nipples because I had fun

1507
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: and that's hard. Um, So four and a half nipples,

1508
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: and I'm giving them. I'm gonna give them. I'm gonna

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01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: give them all for Danny to Danny DeVito for not

1510
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: doing this movie. I think that was a pretty powerful

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01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Abby, what do you say? I would say

1512
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: you know more coming at it. I think also of

1513
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: its time, it's better than I expected as far as

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01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: women speaking, just kind of in general. So I would

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01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: give it a solid four nipples. Wow, Probably I had fun.

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01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of Jamie. Of Jamie's attitude of like I

1517
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: had a good time. I think of the air it

1518
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: came out in, you know, could have been worse. And

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01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to give those four nipples to my cat

1520
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think he has enough. Yes, and now

1521
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: he has twelve nipples because cats famously have eight nipples

1522
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: and that's cat facts. With Caitlin, you got to carry

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01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: around some spars like like tires. Abbie, thank you so

1524
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 1: much for joining us. What a blast this has been. Yeah,

1525
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. This is a ton of fun.

1526
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 1: And I really liked this movie quite a bit. It rocks.

1527
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 1: Let me know, if y'all watch Dead RINGERSTI list that

1528
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: episode come back? Sure? Where can people follow you online?

1529
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Speaker 1: Check out your stuff, etc? They can follow me on

1530
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Speaker 1: B A A A b by Or you can just

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Speaker 1: search Abby Russell. That's probably easier hell yeah, thank you

1534
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: so much for coming on. This is so much fun.

1535
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Thank you. And let's I'm like, I guess, let's see

1536
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: let's see Chris Pratt Mario together. I hope it's good. Look,

1537
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: I have AMC play list. I want to see it.

1538
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: But it's fun. I bet that movie will be perfectly fun.

1539
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think it'll be. I bet I'll laugh.

1540
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Jack Plaque plays Bowser watch that. Yeah, I'm fine. You

1541
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:52,080
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1542
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1543
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1544
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1545
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Speaker 1: of I think like one hundred and fifty episodes. At

1546
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: this point you will not leave dissatisfied. And in April

1547
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: we are doing fem Bought April, so we're covering Megan

1548
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: and Life Size. So you should watch Smarthouse. Oh oh,

1549
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean just for fun the all star sequence in

1550
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: that talk about a dance sequence. You can also grab

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1552
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,839
Speaker 1: and um with that, should we jump in some pipes.

1553
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on my moon boots and uh and

1554
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,959
Speaker 1: steal your shit. I'm gonna de evolve into a disgusting

1555
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 1: fun guy. Please, yeah right, all right, bob Bye.