1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to stuff I never told you protection iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 3: And welcome to another Monday, Minnie. And uh, you know what, 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: we're doing something a little late. A lot of the times, 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: we're pretty much on point. 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: This time, we're about a. 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: Week behind, honestly, and we're talking specifically about the solar eclipse. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: So if y'all were able to see it, cool with 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: at a funeral, So I missed the chunk of it, 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: but I did get to see like the trees, and 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: my niece whom I got to see, had her glasses 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: to let me look. It was really funny though, because 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: I forget what the glasses are supposed to do and 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't see anything. That was the reaction 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: the entire time, and I was like, oh, there it 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: is when I finally searched that. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: My friend was like that too. She's like, they're not 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: working and I was like, no, they're working, so she 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: can't direct. Someone showed me where it go. 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, So because of that, I thought it would 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: be fun if we looked at some superstitions that are 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: associated with it, as well as if we have had 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: previous episodes about superstitions and people using it, believing it, 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: and or making fun of it being very gender Interestingly enough, 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: there's a lot more conversations we've had about it with cults. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: We've talked about it with Christianity like that. It goes 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 3: a long way and a little bit about that type 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: of belief system, and I think a lot of it 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: has been used to manipulate people. I know there's a 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: lot of conversations recently on TikTok because of a major 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: influencer who kind of went extreme, and people are calling 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: it spiritual psychosis or also known as mystic psychosis. But 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: that's a whole different conversation, very sad conversation on that 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: one specifically, but which I find fascinating because I definitely 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: got caught up in that spiritual realm of what the 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: spirit was telling me to do, and now that I 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: look back on and I was like, wow, interesting, But 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: that's not what we're talking about today. We're actually talking 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: about the superstitions and or tales I guess of what 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: different cultures talk about with the solar eclipse, And for 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: those of us in the United States, the next one, 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: just in case you're wondering, should be happening in twenty 44 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: forty four. Yay, exactly twenty years away. I guess that's 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: that's about right. I don't know how all this works. 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: You had no solar systems, things, planets traveling. Okay, that's 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 3: what I got, So keep that in mind for the 48 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: next twenty years. So if we're still doing podcasts or 49 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: whatever next form it is, if I haven't retired by that, 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: I'm very sad. 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: I want you to know this. 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: Wow, that's a fault, right right anyway, so many creatures 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: are blamed for the cause of the solar eclipse for 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: different cultures, including wolves, dogs, dragons, and even frogs. 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: According to the site timeandates dot com, here are some 57 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: stories from different cultures of what is happening with the 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: solar eclips Also, go ahead and put this out there. 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: I'm really trying with the pronunciations, just because we're trying 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: to go through it pretty quickly. I apologize if I 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: mispronunciate something, Please let me know how to do it correctly, 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: and we'll come back and I we'll just do a 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: whole episode of correcting myself. So of all the words 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: that I can't say. 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: Do just mispronounce pronunciation. 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shut it any except for you don't tell 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: me what to. 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: Do, okay, Sorry anyway. 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: So, the Pomo, an indigenous group of people who live 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 3: in the northwestern United States, tell a story of a 71 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: bear who starts to fight with the sun and takes 72 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: a bite out of it. So, in fact, the Pomo 73 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: name for the solar eclips is the Sun got bit 74 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: by a bear. After taking a bite of the Sun 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: and resolving their conflict, the bear, as the story goes, 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: went on to meet the Moon and take a bite 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: out of the Moon as well, causing a lunar eclipse. 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: The story may have been their way of explaining why 79 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: a solar eclipse happens around two weeks before or after 80 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: a lunar eclipse. 81 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: So I like that one take it up by that. 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: The moon in Korea is believed a pack of fire 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: dogs was ordered by a keen to steal the Sun 84 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: and the Moon, according to the National Folk Museum of Korea, 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: which I did go back to look up and it's 86 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: not there. So, but when the dogs captured the Sun, 87 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: it was too hot for them to hold, and when 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: the dogs captured the moon, it was too cold. 89 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: For them to hold. 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: So it's believed that an eclipse occurs when the dogs 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: are biting the Sun and the moon. There's a lot 92 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: of biting happening of these of these. 93 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: Sun and Moon. Sorry. 94 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: According to Inuit folklore, the sun goddess Melina walked away 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: after a fight with the moon god a Ningen. A 96 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: solar eclipse happened when a Ningen managed to hitch up 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: with his sister at that point. 98 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: So there's that. I like that one, butter than the biding. 99 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: All the creatures are fun though, and. 100 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: With all of these different allures, there are different superstitions 101 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: that have evolved around it. According to one Latin more quote, 102 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: there's a belief that babies could be born with facial 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: defects due to change in the atmosphere. The superstition is 104 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: that pregnant women should stay inside and take precautions because 105 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: the Sun's magnetic filled could suck or eat away the 106 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: lip area of the fetus. Pregnant women are told where 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: red undergarments or red ribbons and place safety pins or 108 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: some type of metal on their bellies to protect themselves, 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: and in some cultures, pregnant women are told to lie 110 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: flat on the floor and not move during the eclipse, 111 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: or keep something metallic like scissors underneath a bed or pillow. 112 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: And I saw that on TikTok too. Was funny because 113 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: I was looking up the superstition first and then it 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: popped up because you know, we're being spied on. But 115 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: it showed up as a non Latina pregnant women being 116 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: told you have to do this, so their Latina friends 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: would put a red red arm around them and then 118 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: a ring. 119 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people in rings. 120 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: I thought that was really specific to protect the baby. 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: It's kind of one of those things I guess they 122 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: did say, is like safe safe than sorry, I might 123 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: as well do it. I think that's a way of 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: some superstitions myself that I'm like, might as well not tempted, so, 125 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: you know, knock on wood type of thing, which is 126 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: absurd in itself, but you know, and apparently this the 127 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: ruse of the superstition goes all the way back to 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: the Aztec culture, who quit believe that an eclipse was 129 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: a bite on the face of the moon. So that 130 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: same conversation againt a lot of biting, a lot of biting. 131 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: I can see it. It's like a kind of devouring almos. 132 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: I could see that, I guess instead of just covering over. 133 00:06:47,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: But okay, right, And then they're many other cultures who 134 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: see the solar eclips as rebirth. So the Wabanaki Nation 135 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: located in Maine, they celebrate this time as a renewal. 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: That from mainpublic dot org quote for us, it's really 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: celebrating renewal and rebirth and planting our energies. We did 138 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: some things that we didn't advertise, So they had a 139 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: festival just within our own community and had a sacred fire, 140 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: and we have sacred pipes that we take out that 141 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: we do things with really to pray and to give 142 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: things and all of that. We're doing that separate from 143 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: their own community festival. So a lot of them had 144 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: different activities going on to. 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: Celebrate the solar eclipse as rebirth. 146 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: And I've seen that in a conversation throughout different Native 147 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: TikTok influencers talking about how this was the beginning, It's 148 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: like restarting. I also saw conversations about like if you 149 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: get sick after the eclipse, that that's your body restarting itself. 150 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: It's like that's a good thing. It's like getting it's 151 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: all the bad energy, and I was like, uh, well, 152 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: that's not good for me. I was suppressed. Is that 153 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: count of sickness? And there are many from the native 154 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: communities again who see it all as a rebirth, and 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: different beliefs and religions see it as a spiritual time 156 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: as well. So Buddhists believe specifically that this energy is 157 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: of a positive and negative actions is multiplied during major 158 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: astronomical events such as the solar eclipse, so something specifically 159 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: from the Mahayana tradition. Both lunar and solar eclips are 160 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: auspicious days for spiritual practices. Once pokesperson said it represents 161 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: the positive karmic results of good intentions and actions, and 162 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: it's generated on lunar eclips is multiplied by seven hundred 163 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: thousand and on a solar eclipse by one hundred million. 164 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: And some of the recommended spiritual activities on these days 165 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: include chanting mantras and sutras, which I didn't do. That 166 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: probably would have been a good idea. Some Christians believe 167 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: that it is a sign of the end times, which 168 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: is not too surprised and often is a representation of 169 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,239 Speaker 3: the three hours of darkness that happened during Jesus's crucifixion, 170 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: and of course the number three is a holy marker. 171 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: So I'm church leaders dot com and this is the 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: quote from this specifically website supported by numerous prominent evangelical pastors, 173 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: said that the darkness depicted the Three Gospels quote represents 174 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: a profound spiritual transition. The temporary obscuring of the sun 175 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: juxtaposed within the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus offers a powerful 176 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: metaphor for the transient nature of despair and the eternal 177 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: promise of salvation and rebirth. So obviously that's that whole 178 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: level of renewal. Jesus died on the cross for your sins, 179 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: and now after three hours of darkness, whoo, sun came out. 180 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: Except we only had like thirty seconds of kind of 181 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: shady darkness. I guess the other areas had actual darkness. 182 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: Those who were not in that area, we didn't get that. 183 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: So maybe it doesn't remembers the same things. I don't know, 184 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: but yeah, I thought it was really interesting to look 185 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: at those types of tales and supernatual because it is 186 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: such a big marker, and now that we have a 187 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: little more science behind it, we understand what's going on 188 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: a little better or accept it as being told by scientists. 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 3: Thank you scientists, as where old school thought really brought 190 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: out a lot of more mysticism and conversations along those lines. 191 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: I do believe like atmosphere changes, whether it's based on 192 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: SIUs or not, with like things like this, whether it's yeah, 193 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: darkness or you seeing the clips through the leaves which 194 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: is really really cool through trees. I didn't believe my 195 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: partner and he kept saying that. I was like nah, nah, 196 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: and then I was like, okay, fine, you're right anyway. 197 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: But like having these types of stories and conversations is 198 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: also talking about a lot about what we've talked about 199 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: previously with heritage and passing down stories and why it's 200 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: important to have these types of conversations and these stories 201 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: passed along. Even though things have changed and we know 202 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: a little more, it's still important to know this because 203 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: it does bring a lot of historical context to what 204 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: we knew back then of how things worked. And I 205 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: think it's important to see and it doesn't isn't surprising, 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: like how different cultures saw it differently, whether it was 207 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: a hex or bad omen versus renewal rebirth is really 208 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: interesting to have that conversation about times like that. 209 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go. 210 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say people are still talking about it, 211 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: including elected officials here in the US saying some things. 212 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh wow, okay, we'll see what's going. 213 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: On in twenty forty four. 214 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah. 215 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, listeners, if you did anything cool for the eclipse, 216 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: we have to ask Christina. Christina I believe. 217 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: Traveled for she actually traveled for, which I didn't realize. Yes, 218 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: let us know. 219 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: You can write to us at steph da Moomstuff at 220 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: iHeartMedia dot com. You can find us on Twitter at 221 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: mom Stuff podcast our, on Instagram and TikTok at stuff. 222 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: Whenever told you we have a tea public store, which 223 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: I realized last night when I couldn't sleep. 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