1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast age now number two Clay Travis Buck 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We are having a big discussion as we 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: get Tim Scott South Carolina senator official entry into the 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Republican primary race, and the expectation is 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: that Ron DeSantis, according to reports last week, we'll be 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: announcing this week and we will officially have close to 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: a full field. Now, maybe Mike Pence is going to enter. Buck, 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Are you with me that you see no pathway to 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: the nomination for anyone other than right now, Donald Trump 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: or Ron DeSantis? Like the Mike Pences of the world, 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: the Tim Scotts of the world, the Chris Christy if 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: he were to enter the So New News, like Nicky 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: Hayley's Vivid Ramaswami. They're all just getting attention and running 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: four potential cabinet posts, but they have no chance to 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: really win the nomination. 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's certainly true, But I also think 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: that having a having a robust primary, I like this. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: I keep going back to I'm obsessed with the UH 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: with Rocky four and then the training montage, you know 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: where he's like in the in the snow in Siberia. 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: It's like that made him a better fighter to go 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: up against Ivan Drago And I just think that you 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: want a primary with a lot of different voices if 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: you can have one who are taking different positions. Now, 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: my problem with what we're seeing right now in this 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: primary is that it really feels like a two man 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: race with other people involved who are starting to stack 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: the deck for one of the two candidates a little bit. Right, So, 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: Vivek doesn't attack Trump. He only attacked Ramaswami. I think 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Tim Scott. I don't think Tim Scott's gonna do a 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: lot of attacking. And I think he's going to just 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: be talking about his story, his policy. That's my guess, 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: just based on the kind of guy he is. But 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: he's not going to be you know, he's not gonna 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: be throwing throwing right crosses verbally at in Trump's direction. 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: So it feels a little weird right now. 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: I would rather have people who are all at least 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: running to get as much of a share of the 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: vote as they could, instead of immediately from day one, 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: some of them seeming to angle toward Donald Trump right away. 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, do you see what I mean. 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: It's if you have eight guys in who are all 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: or and gals who are all just trying to throw 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: punches on that stage, so to speak, and want the 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: biggest percentage they can get. Great, you know, let's see 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: how that melee shakes out. Good for politics, good for 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: the Republican Party. If you've got seven guys who are 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: all basically on the same team and one guy who's 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: the only other person who could possibly win, that feels 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: a little strange to me. That's not really that's not 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: really the training montage we want here for whoever the 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: candidate's going to be, And I mean if it's Trump, 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: I just want Trump to go through the best gauntlet 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: possible to hone everything about him so that he's the 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: best candidate he can be. We'll see how this shakes out. 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, the electorate, so far as I can tell, 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: breaks out with about twenty five percent of people in 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: the Trump no one else. Right, I'm talking about the 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Republican primary electorate. Twenty five percent of you listening to 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: us right now are die hard Trump no one else. 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: About twenty five percent are There's no way I'll support 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, right, So those two like are the extremes. 64 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: And then I would say there's fifty percent of you 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: that are open to being persuaded to vote for a 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: variety of candidates. The Trump twenty five percent is going 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: to be with him no matter what. Trump was right 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: when he said back in the day, I could be 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: on Fifth Avenue, I could pull a gun out. There's 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: about twenty five percent of American population that if Donald 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: Trump doesn't matter what he does, they're with him, right, 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: and that is in the republic primary. They're his base. 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: That group's not going to leave Trump. So the more 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: candidates there are, there's twenty five percent who are anti 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Trump that's going to get broken up into a variety 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: of different people. And then there's fifty percent who are persuadable. 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: If I'm Trump, I want as big of a field 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: as possible. I want there to be twenty people running 79 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: for the Republican nomination again, because I want all of 80 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the anti Trump vote to be broken down to as 81 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: small as contingents as possible, as opposed to all rushing 82 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: to DeSantis or Nikki Haley or Tim Scott or whoever 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: the candidate is, that we're able to mobilize those so 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: that is the sort of big picture as we wait 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: for the DeSantis announcement again Tim Scott announcing within the 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: last hour or so. But I want to mention this 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: buck because over the weekend, and I'm reading from a 88 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: CNN headline, the NAACP issued a travel advisory for Florida 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: saying the state vote is openly hostile toward African Americans 90 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: under Governor DeSantis' administration. This is one of the most 91 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: dishonest things that I have seen a large institution do. 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: And it raises the question. And I saw you put 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: up a poll about this recently. You gave like four 94 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: different agencies and said which one of these I think 95 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: do you trust the most? It would get we get 96 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: rid of Yes. My question for you is a is 97 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: a somewhat similar version of that. So, first of all, 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: if you live in Florida and you're black, the state 99 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: of Florida is not a threat to you, and overwhelmingly 100 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: everyone knows that. It's why Florida is adding hundreds of 101 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: thousands of new residents in the past couple of years, 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: many of them white, black, Hispanic Asian, Like, Florida's got 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: your back no matter what your race is, Right, That's 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: why so many people are moving there. Certainly Florida is 105 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: setting all time records for vacationers. If you're taking your 106 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: family to Disney World and you're a black mom and dad, 107 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: you aren't thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, we're under 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: such peril. If you're you know, single, and you're going 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: down to Miami for a fun weekend with your guys 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: or with your girls, you're not thinking, oh my goodness, 111 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: if we go out to this nightclub, there's no telling 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: if we're going to come out alive. Right Like, the 113 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: state of Florida is not doing any putting it in 114 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: under any peril at all. But Buck, when I see 115 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: all these stories, and I had this conversation with my 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: wife over the weekend, how many big institutions do you 117 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: trust right now? Very very few? Because even like if 118 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: you even had to name one or two that you trust, 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: can be media, can be governmental. I don't know that 120 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: there's ever been a point in time where I've trusted 121 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: big institutions less than right now we are. 122 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: We are as a society increasingly atomized. In fact, Hannah Errand, 123 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: in her Origins of Totalitarianism, which is a book that 124 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: I would recommend if someone wants to understand our current 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: moment a little bit better. 126 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: It's a little bit eye. 127 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: Opening and upsetting when you start to see some of 128 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: the parallels with totalitarianism past and present. But out of 129 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: my subjects are people who are disconnected from the rest 130 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: of the broader society and feel like they cannot trust 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: any of the institutions of the society. So they will 132 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: latch on to things very easily and and they're much 133 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: more likely to be able to be mobilized to a 134 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: certain you know, in a certain way. When I look 135 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: at the institutions to your question, I feel increasing like 136 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: a lot of Americans think that they are in a 137 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: place where they can't trust things like the now you see, 138 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: it's difficult because there's always tears and there's nuance, right. 139 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: You have the FBI, by the way, the UH I 140 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: think the FBI. Gosh, I can't remember my own poll 141 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: it was it. 142 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Was CDC FB. 143 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: CDC for me is the most disappointing, meaning like, I'm 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: more disappointed in the CDC one the I R S one, 145 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: which I understand because as everyone sees the what is 146 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: it now, almost six million illegal migrants coming into this 147 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: country getting free stuff from the taxpayer, all in violate 148 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: their presence, is a violation of US law. People can 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: play all these games about how oh, but they're one 150 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: day get a hearing or something. 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: The whole thing is a scam. 152 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: If you don't pay your taxes, someone is going to 153 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: come and arrest you eventually, right if you don't show 154 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: up in court, If you don't pay your taxes, people 155 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: with guns from the government are going to come and arrestue. 156 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: So there's a lack of trust in all institutions that 157 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: rely on law. I R S, DJ, Intel community go 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: down the list because of the politicization that we've all 159 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: seen at the top level. And I think that when 160 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: you start to add into this what we've seen with 161 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: the media. I mean, if someone believes that's that you know, 162 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: CNN is you know, an honest broker, they're basically a 163 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: cult member. I mean they they are incapable of looking 164 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: at data honestly and understanding what we not just date 165 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: of but history, but narrative story and seeing what's really 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: going on. So we are at a point in time 167 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: where the left has infiltrated all these institutions. And I 168 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: always say the left is an invasive species. You don't 169 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: have to have leftists top to bottom and institution. Usually 170 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: they come in through the HR department, that's step number one, 171 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: and then they start to push more and more the 172 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: C suite, and they push more and more on the 173 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: hiring and all before you know it, you have this 174 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: replication machine of left wing licy. Look, I'm gonna talk 175 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: about bud light. Look at bud light for example, bud light. 176 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: Do I feel badly for the guys who are trying 177 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: to deliver bud light now who're driving. Yeah, it sucks 178 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: for them, It's not fair for them. But do I 179 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: also understand there's a broader You know, if you're in 180 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: a battle political, cultural, or otherwise, there's going to be 181 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: there is going to be some collateral damage. There are 182 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: going to be people. I think we should do more 183 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: to help the people who are being caught up in 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: this on the bud lights. But you've got to make 185 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: a stand. You've got to tell people. 186 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: Enough is enough. 187 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: And and I think that you know, when you have 188 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: health clay like the CDs, so there was a CDC, 189 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: I R S FBI. When you can't trust the federal 190 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: health agency, who can you trust? 191 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 192 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: And you know when you can't trust the the FBI. 193 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: You know, recently, did you see that video where they 194 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: were looking for a pro life activist. I shared this 195 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm I don't remember all the details. I'll 196 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: look it up in a second, but as a pro 197 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: life activist. People were joking around that they thought these 198 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: two FBI agents were like, you know Pilate's instructors. 199 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: There were you know, youngish. 200 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: Women, and they were like, hey, like, we're just here 201 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: to talk to you and chat. We're looking for you know, 202 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: your daughter who's a pro life but we're just we 203 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: just want to have a conversation. Trying to be very 204 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: nonchalant about it. The FBI is showing up looking for 205 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: some pro life active Like, what's really going on here? 206 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: What is the Merrick Garland DOJ willing to do to 207 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: pro life activists? We all know we've started to see that. Meanwhile, 208 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: the Epstein thing, So you know, Clay, I told you 209 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: about this. I did the Sean Ryan Show recently, which 210 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: was a phenomenal podcast. We talked about Epstein. People didn't 211 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: believe until they checked, Like they were writing like I 212 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: didn't know that was true, but Epstein, do you know 213 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: that when the FBI in twenty nineteen went to Epstein's home, 214 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: and we just heard the Bill Gates. Epstein was blackmailing 215 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: Bill Gates, not for an underage sexual you know, it 216 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: was for cheating on his wife, so that it is 217 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: a very different legal thing. But he was blackmailing him. 218 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: That's what came out in the Wall Street Journal. The 219 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: FBI went to epste for the whole thing, right, institutions, 220 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: can we trust them? They go to Epstein's eighty million 221 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: dollar townhouse in twenty nineteen, which he was given. Right, 222 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you're a generous guy, but you're not giving 223 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: me an eighty million dollars townhouse any soon. 224 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: I don't think like that's that's a lot, right, That's 225 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: it was a Victorian secret founder, Wexner who gave him 226 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: that townhouse, basically, right, that's right. And the f shows 227 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: up there, and what do they find? Everybody? What is 228 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: the big missing. 229 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Piece and all the Epstein stuff? Who's being blackmailed? Who 230 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: are the targets of these blackmail operations? Who is he 231 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: recording in all of these massage parlors he had set 232 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: up in his homes with the cameras and everything else. 233 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: Somehow we've never heard of any of this, right, I 234 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: should say we've never seen any of this. The FBI 235 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: shows up in twenty nineteen, finds tapes, video tapes with 236 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: things like you know, girl, so and so like names 237 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: on them. 238 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: You know what the FBI does everybody? 239 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: They call into headquarters and they say, hey, yeah, we 240 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: don't have a warrant to take this stuff. 241 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: We can't. 242 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: Actually we have a search warrant, but we can't take 243 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: the things that we're searching for. The FBI leaves. This 244 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: is a matter of public record. This came out in 245 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: court during Giele and Maxwell's trial. The FBI leaves, and 246 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: they leave behind the tapes. Guess what happens a couple 247 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: of days later. Three days later, not in a big rush, 248 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: apparently the FBI, the FBI that goes to check on 249 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: pro life activists, they come back and they say the 250 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: tapes are gone. Oh, the tapes are gone. And then 251 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: they reach out to Epstein's estate he obviously was dead 252 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: at this point, attorney, and they say, hey, what happened 253 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: to those tapes. The attorney goes, oh, I have them, 254 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: and the FBI says, hey, could you bring those over 255 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: to us? Just make sure you bring all of them, okay, 256 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: and that is how that went down. 257 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: Do you trust the FBI? Everybody? 258 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Does anyone out there? Does any law enforcement officer want 259 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: to try to explain to. 260 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: Me how that one went down? Oh? I think and 261 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: this has been my theory for a while. I think 262 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Epstein the reason why he was able to avoid jail 263 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: for so long was he was an asset, Yes, either 264 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: our government, maybe also foreign government. I think he was 265 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: a foreign government asset working inside the US institutions that 266 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: he could, but yes, and then he had all of 267 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: this blackmailable data. Right. You know, you're showing up and 268 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: you're getting a massage from a sixteen year old and 269 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: you're in It wasn't a massage as we know, right yeah, right, 270 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: massage in quotation marks, but it's videoed. You are in 271 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: a position of incredible prominence. And my theory is that 272 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: he was blackmailing many of the super powerful individuals and 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: also sharing some of that blackmail information with some of 274 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: these governments. They had the goods on a lot of 275 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: different people, and that's that, to me, explains much of 276 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: what happened with Epstein. That's my theory. Obviously, we don't 277 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: know for sure, but that what you're laying out would 278 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: tie in that would help to make sense of it. 279 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree with your theory. I would 280 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: just add to this though, or remind everybody Clay I 281 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: laid out for you, and I'm pretty precise on the 282 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: facts here. I mean, there might be one ering, but 283 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: FBI shows up, finds the tapes and leaves without the 284 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: tapes because it wasn't in the search what were they 285 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: searching for And they couldn't leave somebody there to figure 286 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: out whether or not the tapes are at you know, 287 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: they couldn't like monitor the house to make sure somebody 288 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: to the lawyer gets them. 289 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: The FBI has to call the lawyer and say, hey, 290 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: can you bring us the blackmail tapes that you have? 291 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: And what was on those tapes? No answers, And how 292 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: does Maxwell end up the only person that's charged alongside 293 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: of Epstein who conveniently commits suicide, right, I mean, I'm 294 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: just saying none of it adds up, And honestly, this 295 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: is a great example of where the media doesn't follow up. 296 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: And I would just say it's probably because a lot 297 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: of the people that are in positions of power associated 298 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: with the media are either caught up in this thing 299 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: or their friends are caught up in this thing. It 300 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: is a sordid, nasty mess. But by the way, on 301 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: the NAACP thing, what about buck the fact that it 302 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: comes out a couple of days before Desantus is announcing 303 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: for president. I mean, how much more of a fix 304 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: could there be in on this? These days, our home 305 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: movies are recorded on or smartphones. Twenty years ago, guess 306 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: what everybody was lugging around camcuorders changing out video cassettes 307 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: and tapes two decades ago. That's what you did. 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Travis and Buck Sexton on the Frontlines. True. 357 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: I shared this link yesterday. I'd encourage you guys to 358 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: go read it, especially if you work in a business 359 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: that is bon woke because there's a front page article 360 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: in the Monday edition of the Wall Street Journal that 361 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: dives in great detail into the collapse of bud Light 362 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: in the wake of their decision to put a trans 363 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: influencer on a beer can as a part of a 364 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: March Madness promotion. And initially when people said, hey, we're 365 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: going to fight back against this, there was ridicule. There 366 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: was the belief nothing would happen. And in the chart 367 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: that is included in the bud Light article in the 368 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, Buck, you can see that in the 369 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: first week of May, bud light consumption in this country 370 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: is down twenty eight percent, and every week it keeps 371 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: getting worse. And you remember first weekend in May. This 372 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: is when I did my experiment, and you were here 373 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: with me in the Nashville area. We were at a 374 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: musical event and no one would take a bud light. 375 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: And what I am seeing when I am out and 376 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: about when I am in a bar, when I'm in 377 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: a restaurant, I'll ask, I'll say, hey, how's bud light selling, 378 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: And by and large the servers will say nobody's ordering it. Now. 379 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: I live in the Nashville area Red state of Tennessee, 380 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: so I'm not saying that everything that I'm experiencing is representative, 381 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: but when it's down twenty eight percent nationwide, and now 382 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: it's starting to filter over to Mick Ultra and to 383 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: Budweiser itself, and Budweiser is deciding that they're going to 384 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: have red, white, and blue cans, and they're going to 385 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: have a Harley Davidson edition, and they're going to have 386 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: a camouflage edition. They are desperately backpedaling over the fact 387 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: that they insulted the consumer base by and large of 388 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: bud Light, not just with that ad buck, but also 389 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: with their director of marketing saying, yeah, we didn't really 390 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: like the people who were drinking bud Light. It was 391 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: too frauty, There was out of touch humor, and people 392 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: are saying, well, wait a minute. You know, relatively speaking, 393 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: there's not that much difference between bud Light Coors Light, 394 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: and let's say Miller Lte And I understand some of 395 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: our audience fervently disagrees with me on this buck, but 396 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: I will go to the grave that if you were 397 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: having nachos or you're having a hot dog at a 398 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: ball game, that you just drinking out of a cup 399 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: cannot distinguish between the taste of those three and so 400 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: this is now the most success successful pushback we have 401 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: ever seen on any brand for going woke and directly 402 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: undercutting their business. And I believe we have audio. It's 403 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: important for you to realize, and you mentioned this in 404 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: the first hour of the show. I think Buck, a 405 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: lot of employees' way he's out there, are not in 406 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: support of what bud Light did, and a lot of 407 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: distributors are not in support because the way that Budweiser 408 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: is distributed is with different regional outposts all over the 409 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: country and one of the distributors down in Alabama, he 410 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: was fed up. Buck. Listen to the ad that he 411 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: took out directly to attack what his company did. 412 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: Listen, There's been a lot of discussion, frustration, and even 413 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: anger across the country regarding just one single can made 414 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: a bud Light that was produced for a social media influencer. 415 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: We too, at VAMA Budwiser, said about it and have 416 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: made our feelings known to the top leadership at ANHUSE. Course, 417 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: we do not, and as I said before, did not 418 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: support this issue involving Dylan mulvaney. There was one single 419 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: can made, was not for sale and wasn't properly approved. 420 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: As a result, the bud Light brand has new leadership. 421 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: Dylan mulvaney is not under contract with bud Light. The 422 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: videos you may have seen are Mulvaney's own social media 423 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: posts that went viral, and many web based news outlets 424 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: have distorted the story. You deserve to know the truth. 425 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: And life is too short to let a couple of 426 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: them individuals decide of which you can eat or drink 427 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: or spend your hard earned money on. 428 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: So this guy has done a better job I think 429 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: of trying to deal with the situations obviously affecting him, 430 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: affecting his business. And as I was saying, I know 431 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: people who know so by you know, second order removed 432 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: from me, bud bud Light delivery guys, distributors, things like that, 433 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: and they're getting hurt by this. Your business is down 434 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: thirty percent. You got to think in terms of margins 435 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: and not just gross sales. If your business is down 436 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: thirty percent, you may be out of business in a 437 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: matter of time. It's not like you can sustain that. 438 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: And and so that's that's obviously something that hurts. But 439 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: I would just say this Anheuser Busch in BEV, which 440 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: owns the bud Light brand, and the marketing people involved 441 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: with this. They didn't even after a couple of weeks. 442 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: They didn't say, we're so sorry that we did this 443 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: and we're never going to do this again, and we're 444 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: not going to play this game. We just want to 445 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 2: bring you great beer and this was crap. Did they 446 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: even fire anyone? 447 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: I should notice? Has it even been fired. 448 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: No one's been fired, No apology has been given, nothing 449 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: has been done. 450 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: They are hoping all of you just. 451 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: Forget and start drinking bud Light again. Now, part of 452 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: that I think could be just a delusion, because they're 453 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: in the you know, the fog of corporate war right now, 454 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: they're on what they're doing. But I also think like 455 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: at some level it's because even still these companies Anheuser 456 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: Busch in BEV, like the big umbrella corporation that own 457 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: spun Light, I think they're more worried even at this stage, 458 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: about upsetting the LGBTQ I A plus activists than they 459 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: are the people who drink their products. Yeah, and that's 460 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: why they're not willing to do the obvious. You and 461 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: I could sit down with the CEO of in BEV 462 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: and strategize this in ten minutes, and they would They 463 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't make this cool problem go away overnight, but you 464 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: would see the curve start to go in the other direction. 465 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: People say, are right, we did had come out with 466 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: a statement, and I think people have started to feel 467 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: comfortable like lesson learned. No one feels like lesson learned. 468 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: What's the lesson learned? That they think that we have 469 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: short attention spans, that they think that, you know, maybe 470 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: this time they got caught. Next time they'll do it again. 471 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: So this is why, you know, I think pedal to 472 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: the metal. The pressure has to stay on. And then 473 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: that brings me to Target. Now this is a tough one. Carrie, 474 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: my wife loves Target. It's gone there for so many years. 475 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: There's a Target very near us. I will tell you 476 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: that Carrie took me to a Target for the first time. Clay, 477 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: I had never been you'd been in a Target before, 478 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: not until the last twelve months. That's really fine. I 479 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: had never been to a Target before. I'm an Amazon 480 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: dot com guy. But uh, you know Target is selling 481 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: these bathing suits. Yeah, that have like a a How 482 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: do we even like a top touch, a tuck pouch. 483 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I think it's called women's bathing suits ostensibly that allow 484 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: and quotation mark women to hide their penises. I mean, 485 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: I I just I can't even believe that this is real, 486 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: that a place like Target that there would be First 487 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: of all, there can't be that much demand for this, right, 488 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Like how many dudes with penises are really wearing women's 489 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: bathing suits on her? Like? What is the market cap? Like? 490 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: How much money can you possibly make selling women's bathing 491 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: suit with penis holes for them? 492 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: So if Target is selling is selling weiener Hider bathing suits. 493 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: We hider like a worst hot dog ever selling, they're 494 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: selling hot dog hammocks. 495 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: I mean they're selling situations here that are not good, 496 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 4: uh for you know, we see what's going on, and 497 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: I wonder, okay, so are people going to take you know, 498 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: is it just a bud light? 499 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: I just can't stop. I just can't stop thinking buck 500 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: that somehow we've gone from women buying their bathing suits 501 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: and worrying does this make me look fat? Is are 502 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: my boobs showing too much? Is my nipple gonna pop 503 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: out too? Are you gonna be able to see my penis? 504 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: Like? 505 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: This is what we're trying to say that women are thinking. 506 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: Now they've gone from do I look fat in this 507 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 1: bathing suit? To will my uh? I'm trying to use 508 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: the words this is. This is at some level, it's 509 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: a violation. 510 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: Of the The true ethos of transgenderism isn't that you 511 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 2: should have to hide the male penis. It's that when 512 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: you're transgender, the penis is actually a vagina, So why 513 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: hide it in. 514 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: The first place. 515 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: We're just supposed to believe this is a vagina because 516 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: it's a woman, and that's the way this goes. So 517 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: I feel like they're trying to have it both ways, 518 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: which I suppose is not surprising. You're talking about the 519 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: transgender situation, but are people going to take action against 520 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: target claus? 521 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: Should you? Should? I think look, people say, okay, where 522 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: does this all leave? And I get it if you're frustrated, 523 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: You're like, man, I just want to have a beer. 524 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: I just want to go by a bathing suit. I 525 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: don't want to have to make calculated political decisions every 526 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: time I want to get a hamburger or you want 527 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: to go, like I said, just to go get a beer. 528 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: I think that the reason why this bud Light reaction 529 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: is important, buck Is. I think right now, for the 530 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: first time ever, there are marketing meetings at every big 531 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: brand in America and they are saying, hey, let's make 532 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: sure that we don't get bud lighted, that we don't 533 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: destroy our brand because we're too woke. And they've never 534 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: had that discussion before in the history of pretty much 535 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: any brand in America. You know, I have a friend 536 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: who works at a high level corporate comms firm, and 537 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: I remember I spoke to him, you know, off the record, 538 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: or you know, without attribution whatever, with different things. Without 539 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: attribution is you can talk about what you said, but 540 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: you can't say who said it. Just two friends talking though, 541 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: we'll put it that way. About how shocked some of 542 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: the corporate comms shops were over the willingness to fight 543 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: with Disney from Ron de Santis. Yeah, and how that. 544 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: Was a little that was a warning shot. And now 545 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: with bud Light, this is the heavy artillery has come in. 546 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: It's a whole different level. 547 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that Disney thing, because Disney won't 548 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: acknowledge it. But for much of this year, the last 549 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: calendar year, and certainly the last fiscal year, Disney's been 550 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: losing subscribers to Disney Plus. And I don't think a 551 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: lot of people have recognized it because remember, the corporate 552 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: press doesn't want to acknowledge when a quote unquote conservative 553 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: boycott works because they don't want to give conservatives power 554 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: in the marketplace. I think Disney is losing a lot 555 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: right now in streaming. We'll talk about that a little 556 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: bit more as we close out hour two. 557 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry, the new Little Mermaid's gonna make billions of. 558 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: No, it's not, No, it's not folks. 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I'm gonna be coming back in just a 587 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: few minutes with all of you to talk about my 588 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: uh the crackdown on shoplifting plan in NYC, which I 589 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: think when you hear it you will be reminded of 590 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: why these democrats can't turn around these different cities that 591 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: are having these crime issues. I did want to play 592 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: this this audio for all of you. This is the 593 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: naac president Derek Johnson Clay has a very interesting fact 594 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: to bring to bring to light about this to add 595 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: into this conversation. First I wanted to hear so the 596 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: president of the NAACP says, if you travel to Florida, Well, 597 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: I'll let him say, play five for the. 598 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 5: Governor has perfected the art of doing stunts to gain 599 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: campaign contributions. Unfortunately, this will impact people lives. We should 600 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 5: not use race or othering as a too to weaponize 601 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 5: against people, and unfortunately, for a large percentage of the Pridians, 602 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 5: that's what he has done. Therefore, we are advising African 603 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 5: Americans and others that if you travel to Florida, beware 604 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 5: that your life is not value. That we have a 605 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 5: political landscape that could cause harm. As we prepare flour 606 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four elections to right size the political landscape 607 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: in the state of Florida, I just. 608 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 2: Want to point out for whenever someone says your life 609 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: is not value, that's meant to be ominous and threatening. 610 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: Right if someone doesn't value your life, you could be killed, 611 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: you could face violence. That's what that's supposed to imply. 612 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: It's a very it's intentionally vague, but it's also intentionally 613 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: ominous and threatening. Clay, what did we learn about the 614 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: head of the NAACP. 615 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Leon W. Russell, who's the chairman of the NAACP. 616 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: His Twitter account, according to many people sharing this on Twitter, 617 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: says that he lives in Tampa, Florida. So if you 618 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: want to know how much of BS this is, if 619 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: you truly thought that black people's lives were in danger 620 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida, would you live in the 621 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: state of Florida. And it's just to me emblematic of 622 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: how much BS this all is. Look, here's the reality. 623 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: If the NAACP wants to warn black people about what 624 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: they should most be afraid of when it comes to 625 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: violent death, do you know what the answer is? Other 626 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: black people. It's like you're not allowed to point this out. 627 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: The biggest danger of violent death to black people throughout 628 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: all of America, according to the data, is other black people. Now, 629 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: to be fair, you are most likely white, Black, Asian, 630 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: or Hispanic. Despite all of this racial divisiveness, you are 631 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: far more likely to be a victim of a crime 632 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: by someone of your own race and to make it 633 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: even scarier. This is like the entire basis buck of 634 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: the Lifetime television network. If you're a woman listening to 635 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: us right now, do you know who's most likely to 636 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: do your harm? Your boyfriend or your husband? Right? That's 637 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: the entire basis of the Lifetime television network. The reality 638 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: is violent crime, if you are a victim, is most 639 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: likely going to be perpetrated by someone that you know, 640 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: and often by someone of your own race. But that 641 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: is not able to even be discussed because some people say, 642 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, how dare you say that that's racist? 643 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: It's not racist to talk about facts. The fact that 644 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: we have defined racism to represent anything that makes people 645 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: pause or be a little bit uncomfortable based on what 646 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: the facts show is one reason why we never have 647 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: honest conversations. 648 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: An any analysis racism that requires lies or the suppression 649 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: of truth, which is really just the same thing, isn't 650 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: analysis that anybody should be hearing, right, I mean, if 651 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: you have to lie to talk about something, what does 652 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: that say about whatever it is that you were saying. 653 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: If you're not allowed to share facts and figures that 654 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: are clear. Now, it's one thing to if people want 655 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: to argue about issues of criminal justice and say, well, 656 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: there's additional context, here's more figures. Okay, that's fine, that's 657 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: all part of the conversation. But the you can't share 658 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: these numbers. Remember when Elon Musk shared this is Elon 659 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: who I just saw pol is also the most He's 660 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: the most widely respected figure in American political life. 661 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: Right, did you see that? Pole? 662 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: I texted, I think I thought, I thought I said 663 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: this to you earlier before. Maybe I'm I forget what 664 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: I send Clay versus what I sent into the team. Anyway, 665 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: Elon Musk shared a while ago some data that showed 666 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: that ter interracial violence is overwhelmingly not what the media 667 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: tells you it is, and then you had all these 668 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: people shouting at him saying, well, what about intraracial violence 669 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: meeting like white people killing white people and black people 670 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: killing black people, to which response is, that's not what 671 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: the conversation's about, though, correct, And so if his numbers 672 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: are correct, and that is the conversation, we're having the 673 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: false belief that it is disproportionately likely that a black 674 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: person will be killed by a white person in this 675 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: country versus a black phos killing a white person in 676 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: this country. Why is Elon not allowed to share that 677 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: FBI data? 678 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's one hundred percent right. That's a fact 679 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: point that no one wants to discuss. If you're a 680 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: white person, you're far more likely to be killed by 681 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: a black person than a black person is to be 682 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: killed by a white person. Yet the media only covers 683 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: white people being involved in the death of black Why 684 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: is that