1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Well, hey, it's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. Normally 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm on our big flagship station WOR in New Yorker 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: or on the iHeart app. We're going to talk about 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: the little weasel worm Anthony Fauci. But first, here is 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: some great moments. This is Senator Bernie Marino. Take a listen. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Her advice. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: To communities like that, to idiotic politicians who enforce those rules. 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 3: Arrested that mom for watching a football game with her 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: own family outside. When that story broke, I said to myself, 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: I cannot stand ile on the side and watch this happen. 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: It was about six years ago today that I decided 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: I'm going to. 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Give up my businesses, sell them all, run for office, 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: run to the United States Senate. Here I am sitting 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: in front of you, six years later, saying, who the 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: fuck do you think you were for doing that? It 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: is a total disgrace what you did to this country. 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: And if my Democrat colleagues are standing there defending you, 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: I hope the voters in the United States of America. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: Watched the clips of every one of you. 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: Doting on a guy who was more interested in being 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: a celebrity than saving American people. I will make it 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: my mission to make certain that every single one of 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: those republic Democrats who did that, we'll see that clip 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: over and over and over again, because defending there is 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: no defense of what you did. 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: You may have had. 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: A fifty plus year legacy of public service, but it 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: ends in total and complete disgrace. 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a Senator Marino. Very wealthy guy, by the way, 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: very wealthy guy who sold all his businesses to go 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: after a fout. You and at who the blank do 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: you think you are? Are you thinking? And Facci he's 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: not talking, he's taking the fifth Otherwise he would have said, Senator, 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: in congregate settings, we can't do Hey one more. Here's 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: Senator Josh Holly. 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: What color tie you're wearing on the Advisive Council? I 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: respectfully decline to and sebased upon my rights under the 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,559 Speaker 4: Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: What color is a carpet in front of you on 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: the Advisive Council? 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: I respectfully decline to and sebased upon my rights under 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 4: the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Oh, let's just get one thing straight. 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 5: You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 5: you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as a 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 5: Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more, 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 5: Brown versus Walker, eighteen ninety six. When he has been pardoned, 49 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 5: he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 5: your lawyer as sitting behind you now shifting nervously in 51 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: their chairs. 52 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: They know it. 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 5: This isn't about the Constitution, This isn't about the law. 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: This is about contempt, contempt for this body and contempt 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 5: for the American people. But I think I know why 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 5: you're doing it. It's because I want to answer questions. 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 5: It's because you did all kinds of terrible things. It's 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 5: because during the pandemic you got rich, didn't you. You 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: got rich while people were dying, hundreds of thousands of 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 5: Americans over a million in the end, and you were 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 5: getting rich. And not only were you doing that, you 62 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: were using federal employees with taxpayer money to apply for 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: and solicit cash prizes for you personally, cash prizes totaling 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 5: over a million dollars. You did all of that during 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 5: the pandemic, didn't you. 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: That's a question on the Advisive Council, I respectful the 67 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: decline to answer, based upon my rights under the Fifth 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: amendment of the Constitution. 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Now what that means. See, you meet with your lawyers 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: for many hours. You meet with your lawyers, you have 71 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: an attorney client privilege. You go over what you could say, 72 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: You explain everything to them. So on the advice of 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: his attorneys, the attorney said, oh my god, you can't 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: say any of that. You better take the fifth. They 75 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: heard what he would say. They said, you better take 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: the fifth. Can't say that, So it must have been 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: pretty bad. Hey, we turn now to a former FBI agent, 78 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Nicole Parker. Her book is The Two Fbis The Bravery 79 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: and Betrayal. An expert in these sort of matters, FBI 80 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: agent for years, and she's with us now. Nicole Parker, 81 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: how you doing. 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 6: Wow, I'm doing pretty well. But like yourself, you probably 83 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 6: watched that hearing and not shocking at all, but very troubling, 84 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: very very troubling. To thank the doctor Fauci, the preemptive 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 6: autopen pardon that started back in twenty fourteen and went 86 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 6: all the way through the Biden administration. And to know 87 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 6: what destruction was caused in our nation, the number of 88 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 6: lives that were lost. Not only was the virus destructives 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 6: and killed individuals but I believe that the reaction to 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 6: the virus was even more dangerous and lesal than the 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 6: virus itself. Yeah, you're talking about, you know, having worked 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 6: in the FBI, for example, I focus a lot on 93 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 6: human trafficking. The number of children that were put onto 94 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 6: Zoom for their education and were online constantly. They were 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 6: exposed to online predators. They were exposed to abuse. People 96 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 6: don't understand when children go to school, that's actually an 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 6: outlet for them to report abuse. They no longer have that. 98 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 6: They were in lockdown mode. Online predators were going after children. 99 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 6: Their educations were not only stunted, I believe that they 100 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 6: were put into dangerous situations. The list goes on and on. 101 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 6: The economy completely, it was the strongest economy I think 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 6: we'd ever seen. Do you think it's a coincidence that 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 6: during an election year, this virus suddenly appears from China 104 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 6: when Trump has the strongest, you know, economy ever, they 105 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 6: take it into the ground, And I do believe that 106 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 6: it also facilitated a lot of the voting and how 107 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 6: people were voting in that election, the mail in ballots 108 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 6: and things that the FBI frankly never went in and investigated. 109 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 6: And so being someone that worked as a special agent 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 6: for the FBI. As my book explains, there works with fis. 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 6: There was one that was politically motivated. I refer to 112 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 6: that as FBI two FBI one where the agents that 113 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 6: just wanted to begin their uphold the Constitution and protect Americans. 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 6: When you go to serve in the FBA and your 115 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 6: FBI one, your primary responsibility is you want to protect 116 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 6: Americans and uphold the Constitution. And from someone who observed 117 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 6: it from the inside, it's absolutely despicable. And to think 118 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 6: that this individual who now has diaries that have come 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 6: to light his arrogance, his narcissism, and his impior motives, 120 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 6: and to think if you got that preemptive pardon, it 121 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 6: may never find accountability after all the destruction he caused 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 6: in our nation. It's very upsetting, very troubling, and I 123 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 6: truly believe that he will face the consequence. You know what, 124 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: Mark he may not face one now, but I believe 125 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 6: that we will all face our maker one day. And again, 126 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 6: having worked in the FBI, you can't serve just as 127 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 6: on every single individual. You think that people are getting 128 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 6: away with something. I do believe that one day he 129 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 6: will face it, very very severe consequence for what he 130 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 6: costs for our nation and frankly for the whole world. 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: Well, let's hope. So, Hey, Nicole Parker, your FBI training, 132 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: you're trained in when you're questioning somebody, how to read 133 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: the face read them. When you saw him testifying, what 134 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: did you think was going through his mind? 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the fact that he had, you know, 136 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 6: almost half a dozen attorney's present That says a lot 137 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 6: heeded legal representation, even though he thinks that he's covered. 138 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 6: You know, I just actually before I joined you on air, 139 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 6: there's actually an article that came out on CNN of 140 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 6: all places, saying that invoking the fifths, he may not 141 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 6: be completely covered. There are a lot of different legal 142 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: theories coming out now. And I know that the state 143 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 6: of Florida, I believe that they're going to be looking 144 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 6: at him on a state level that it does not 145 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 6: necessarily that that part, it may not preclude him Boom 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 6: from being charged in other ways than. 147 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: On other levels. 148 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 6: But his demeanor I noticed initially when he read at 149 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 6: his opening statement. You know, it's nerve racking to testify 150 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 6: before Congress, but that wasn't his first time to do 151 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 6: that his hands were visibly shaking, that paper was literally 152 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 6: his hands were quivering. That's something that you're going to 153 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 6: look at very closely. That could be for a number 154 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 6: of reasons, but I think the fact that, in my opinion, 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 6: just looking at his body language, he wanted to appear 156 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 6: as if he was cool, calm, and collective. But I 157 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 6: think anxiety was absolutely nervous. 158 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Wow, reason to be Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, 159 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: it's the two hundred and fiftieth time he's been in 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: front of Congress, so you're right, he's been through it before. 161 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: He shouldn't have been so so nervous. What do you 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we would like to see you justice happened here, 163 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: But what do you do about the fact that nobody's 164 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: covering it? I mean the mainstream You won't see it 165 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: on the nightly news. If you see it, they'll bury 166 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: it at the end, or you don't see it on 167 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: MSNBC or CNN. What about that? 168 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: You know, that's the problem that again I even discussed 169 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 6: it in my book, how our media, regardless of where 170 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 6: you feel on the plus the political spectrum, media is biased. 171 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 6: They're only through news networks that are ever going to 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 6: touch or cover something like this. I do believe that 173 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 6: if x if Elon and Musk could own Twitter, which 174 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 6: is not the X platform during the time of COVID, 175 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: he would have never gotten away with any of this, 176 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: meaning doctor Gauci, because that is a free speech platform 177 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 6: for people that want to understand and know what's really 178 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: happening in the world. It's not always best to turn 179 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 6: on ABC, NBCC and an MSNBC, but frankly, there is 180 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 6: an open form of discussion on both sides of the 181 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 6: spectrum on some of these social media sites, and I 182 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: truly believe that I myself had been looking out and 183 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 6: checking what people are saying on both sides. I always 184 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 6: want to hear what representation is there, you know, there's 185 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: always that concern. I literally know people in this country 186 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 6: right now who did not even know about the Fauci diaries. 187 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 6: They knew nothing about it. They knew nothing about him 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 6: even testifying today. They didn't even know what was going 189 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 6: to be happening. So again my I said, I was 190 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 6: a little shocked to even see on CNN on an 191 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 6: Instagram post that they were acknowledging that doctor POUCHI might 192 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 6: have some problems. 193 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: Leading the FIST. 194 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, good, well, it's great stuff. Nicole Parker, thanks 195 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: for being here. Her book, yeah, which you want to 196 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: get her book, The two fbis the Bravery and Betrayal 197 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: I saw in my time at the Bureau. Great book. 198 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: And Nicole Parker, thanks for being with us. 199 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 6: My pleasure. 200 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: Y'all have a great day, all right, take care. Hey, 201 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: we'll take some calls next eight hundred I almost give 202 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: out the number of my show here and here now 203 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: eight hundred nine one Sean eight hundred nine one seven 204 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: three at two six, it's Mark Simone here on the 205 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Hey, welcome back. It's Mark Simone here 206 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: for Sean Hannity. Sean is in South Carolina the funeral 207 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: of Lindsey Graham. He'll be back tomorrow on the show 208 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: with us right now. The best legal analyst of all, 209 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett. You should get all of his excellent books. 210 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: And of course you'll see him all of our Fox News. 211 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: And it's great to happen with us, Greg Jared. How 212 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: you doing, Hey? 213 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 7: Im fine, Mark, good to be with you. 214 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Hey. Anthony Fauci comes with six lawyers to the hearing. 215 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: How often do you see anybody showed with six lawyers. 216 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 7: Well, he probably needs about sixty lawyers, you know, because 217 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 7: Anthony Fauci has you know, been exposed by his own 218 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 7: words his diary. You know, it appears he tells his 219 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 7: diary the truth, but then spent years pedaling lies to 220 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 7: the public. And look, Senator rand Paul was obviously frustrated today. 221 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 7: He threatened both contempt and obstruction of Congress after Fauci 222 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 7: invoked the Fifth But you know, legally it would be difficult, 223 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 7: it would be a challenge for Senator Paul since claiming 224 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 7: the Fifth Amendment is not by itself a crime. In fact, 225 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 7: it's a constitutional right that for two hundred some odd 226 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 7: years has very broad protection, and it supersedes the power 227 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 7: of the kind of criminal statutes that Paul was referring to. 228 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 7: You know, Fauci's preemptive pardon, understand, covers any past crimes 229 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 7: that occurred before the pardon, not crimes afterward like now. 230 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: So Frauci was in legal jeopardy today if he failed 231 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 7: to tell the truth. Many need to be charged with 232 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 7: new crimes if he lied. And that's why his lawyer, 233 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 7: his sixth lawyers told him to clam up. Now, you know, 234 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 7: having said that Senator Paul does have a valid point 235 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 7: that Biden's pardon means that Fauci is not subject to 236 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 7: federal criminal prosecutions, and therefore it was invalid or inappropriate 237 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 7: for him to invoke the fifth But that ignores the 238 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 7: fact that Fauci can still be criminally charged by various states, 239 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 7: And in fact, within a couple of hours of h 240 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 7: test Fine, the Attorney General in the state of Florida 241 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 7: said we're conducting an investigation of Fuci and implied that 242 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 7: he'd bring charges against him. 243 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: So if he did commit something that would be chargeable, 244 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: and during the pandemic in his job, what jurisdiction does 245 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: Florida have over that since his job is in Washington. 246 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 7: Well, because it affected the citizens of Florida. You know, 247 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 7: he was issuing orders or he was certainly trying to 248 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 7: persuade public officials in all fifty states to take certain 249 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 7: actions like closing business doors and closing schools, and you know, 250 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 7: distancing requirements, and you know, limiting get togethers and going 251 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 7: outdoors and even going to the park. And you know, 252 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 7: I wrote at the time several columns saying this is 253 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 7: a historically egregious violation of civil liberties. Fauci and the government, 254 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 7: government and governors in various states have no right to 255 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 7: do this. And I also happened to point out it 256 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 7: doesn't seem to be based on science, and we now 257 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 7: know it wasn't. I interviewed Fauci at the outset of 258 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 7: the pandemic, and I remember afterwards turning to my producer 259 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 7: and saying, is it your sense that that guy doesn't 260 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 7: know what the hell he's talking about. He he's all 261 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 7: over the place, and he was, you know, one week 262 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 7: he said, oh, mask won't an he could. The next 263 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 7: week is you got to wear a mask. The week 264 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 7: after that you got to wear two masks. And you know, 265 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 7: I'll tell you this much. The Fauci Diary, which was 266 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 7: dug up by the Department of Homeland Security I think 267 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 7: it was, or the DOJ, makes for pretty interesting reading. 268 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 7: Fauci comes across as a narcissistic, vainglorious person marinating in 269 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 7: his own fame, delights in the adoration, writing down every 270 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 7: word of praise. He brags about his TV appearances, both 271 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 7: of these the most recognizable man in the world, essentially Mark. 272 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 7: You know, Fauci fell in love with himself and at 273 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 7: the same time seemed utterly unbothered about the rising death toll, 274 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 7: tens of thousands, then millions who were dying. But you know, 275 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 7: the diary also contradicts his sworn testimony where he told 276 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 7: Congress the desks were much higher than they really were, 277 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 7: that genda hysteria. He writes that the infections were not 278 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 7: connected to a Wuhan marketplace, but privately, you know, he 279 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 7: is conceding it came from a Chinese lab that he 280 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 7: helped fund, you know, So you know, the diary itself 281 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 7: incriminates him. 282 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: We're talking with Greg Jared. So if a state goes 283 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: after him like this Florida Attorney General, do they have 284 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: to go after him in Washington, d c. Where he 285 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: did whatever he did, or can they bring him to 286 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Florida and try him there with a more favorable jury. 287 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 7: You can try him in all fifty states if you want, 288 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 7: you know, because this was a nationwide pandemic and his 289 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 7: actions affected people in all fifty states. So now I 290 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 7: don't know on what grounds Florida or you know, let's say, 291 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 7: you know, Missouri or South Carolina decide to investigate Fauci 292 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 7: and you know, bring charges. I just don't know, but 293 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 7: you know, I know that he was if I were 294 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 7: his lawyer today, and I would never represent it, but 295 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 7: I would have said, yeah, you better invoke the fifth 296 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 7: because if you make new eyes today, Biden's pardon doesn't 297 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 7: cover it. And if you say things today and you 298 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 7: know state agees are listening, that might instigate an investigation 299 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 7: and prosecution against you, so you better clam up. And 300 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 7: that's what he did. 301 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: So but from that we can assume there was he 302 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: couldn't tell the truth because the truth would have sunk him. 303 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 7: Right, yeah, I mean he's sort of in a knowing situation, 304 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 7: as I say, you know, his own words and his 305 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 7: diary incriminate him. You know, Fauci insists publicly that COVID 306 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 7: had a natural origin. He still says, so yeah, but 307 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 7: wait a minute. In his diary he says, the deadly 308 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 7: virus is man made in the very Wuhan labby funded 309 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 7: with US taxpayer dollars. So you know, you can't reconcile 310 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 7: those two. One of them is a lie. And my 311 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 7: bet is he's telling dear diary the truth because people 312 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 7: tend to do that, but he was lying to the 313 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 7: American people and the amount of damage that this guy 314 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 7: did is really unfathomable in American history, more than anybody 315 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 7: I can ever think of. If he had a hand 316 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 7: in the creation of this deadly Frankenstein virus, and there's 317 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 7: evidence that he did that, his department at NIH funded it. 318 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 7: You know, does he have blood on his hands? 319 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: What is it? 320 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 7: One hundred and fifty five? You know a million people 321 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 7: world wide loss their lives, more than a million Americans. 322 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 7: Is he partially to blame? I mean, you know, this 323 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 7: whole gain of function research in which you take deadly 324 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 7: viruses and you supersize them and make them more transmissible 325 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 7: to humans, That's insanity. There is no way that you 326 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 7: can justify doing that. Because anybody with an ounce of 327 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 7: common sense and pinhead scientists tend to be devoid of that, 328 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 7: would say themselves, oh what if it gets loose? And 329 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 7: this Wuhan lab in particular had an abysmal safety record. 330 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 7: I mean, that's the last lab in the world that 331 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 7: US taxpayer money should ever go to, and yet Fauci 332 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 7: apparently saw to it that money went to the Wuhan 333 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 7: lab that created the virus that killed millions. 334 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Well, hey, Greg, they were investigator to see if Fauchi's 335 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: parton was done with that autopen. I don't know how 336 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: forensically you'd proved it was the autopen. But if it 337 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: was the Autopen, you think that pardon could ever be 338 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: out removed. 339 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 7: It's clearly the autopen because it doesn't match Biden's handwritten signatures. 340 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 7: Apparently the only handwritten signature was the parton he gave 341 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 7: to his own son, Hunter Piden. So this was the autopen. 342 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 7: I don't think that's disputable. Here's what I would do 343 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 7: if I were at the DOJ. I would bring criminal 344 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 7: charges as outlined by Senator Paul against Fauci for Lyne 345 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 7: repeatedly to Congress about funding the Wuhan Lab and other 346 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 7: things as well. Fauci would then invoke his pardon, and 347 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 7: then a judge would have to decide what to do. 348 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 7: Is it a valid pardon that puts into play the 349 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 7: autopen pardon? And there would have to be proof that 350 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 7: Biden knew and consented in order for that Fauci pardon 351 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 7: to be valid, because if it was done behind Biden's back, 352 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 7: as I think a great many of the pardons and 353 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 7: commutations were done without his knowledge and consent his inner 354 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 7: circle of just handing out pardons like slices of pizza 355 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 7: signed by the autopen. You know, then it's null and void. 356 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 7: You know, there has to be knowledge and consent. Well, 357 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 7: what if you got a president whose mind has turned 358 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 7: apple sauce and he doesn't have the capacity to have 359 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 7: knowledge and consent. That's another wrinkle in all of this. So, 360 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 7: you know, if I were at the DOJ, if I 361 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 7: were the attorney General, I'd bring charges against Fauci, let 362 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 7: him invoke the pardon, and let's go to court and 363 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 7: decide whether these were valid pardons. And by the way, Mark, 364 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 7: nobody's ever challenged preemptive pardons. Historically, pardons were for crimes 365 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 7: that had been charged. A preemptive pardon is for crimes 366 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 7: uncharged and still imagined. Well, is that a valid pardon? 367 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 7: We don't have the answer to that in a court 368 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 7: of law. Maybe we need one. 369 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: Wow, interesting stuff, fascinating stuff. Well, Greg, Jared, glad we were 370 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: able to get you on because nobody better when it 371 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: comes to legal analysis. Get Greg Jarrett's books, The Constitution 372 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: and Other Patriotic Documents Trial of the Century. They're wonderful books. 373 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: Amazon or where we get your books. And Greg Jarrett, 374 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. 375 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 7: Hey, Mark, thanks so much, appreciate it. 376 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: All right, take care. That's interesting, so we'll see. We'll see. 377 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: Christy will just prop up Joe Biden and have him 378 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: read a statement that he was his pardon he signed it, 379 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know, Well, what do you think. We'll 380 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: take some calls in a minute. One eight hundred nine 381 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: for one, Sean is the number. One eight hundred nine 382 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: for one Sean. It's Mark Simone here on the Sean 383 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. 384 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 8: Hannity, you watch keeping an eye on Chuck and Nancy 385 00:23:51,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 8: and their minions. Sean Hannity, Hey, welcome back. 386 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: It's Mark Simone here for Sean Andnity. Shawn's in South 387 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Carolina for the funeral of Lindsey Graham and he'll be 388 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. We'll take a look at the great service 389 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: at the National Cathedral coming up later in the next hour. 390 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Let's take some calls. Let's go to Jill in California. Jill, 391 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: how you doing? 392 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 9: Mark doing great? Thanks for taking my call. I actually 393 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 9: had a question for mister Jarrett, but he's no longer 394 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 9: on air, so maybe some lawyers listening to you could 395 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 9: answer this question. I mean, during the COVID years, so 396 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 9: many small business owners went out of business. Can they 397 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 9: now take Fauci to civil court? 398 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: Well? 399 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah. Anybody can sue anybody. Businesses can certainly sue. 400 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: Fauci had been tough before, but now you got the 401 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: diaries where he makes it clear that he ordered these lockdowns, 402 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: He ordered things shut. There's a lot of you read 403 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: through the diaries. He called the New York City mayor 404 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: Deblasio asked him to close the schools. Parents could sue. Yeah, 405 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: everybody could say. I don't know if he'd be successful, 406 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: but that'd be great to see that little worm spend 407 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: the rest of his life going to court every day 408 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: and he's got those six attorneys. Let him do something, 409 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: give him something to do. Thanks for calling, Jill. Let's 410 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: go to Tamara in Missouri. Tamara, how you doing. 411 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 6: I'm doing great? 412 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 9: Thank you? 413 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 7: How are you good? 414 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Good? What'd you want to say? 415 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 6: I have a question. If Biden was not competent to 416 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 6: run for reelection, couldn't it be an argument that he 417 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 6: was not competent to make any pardons? 418 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Very good point. However, he does have democratic immunity, which 419 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: is something very serious. Now it's a very good point. Yeah, 420 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: you could argue that, but it was Greg Jarrett was saying, 421 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: you'd have to charge Fauci and then let him try 422 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: to use his pardon. That way, a judge would have 423 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: to rule on the pardon and they could bring up, 424 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, the fact that it was an auto pen 425 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: and what you've just said that if he wasn't competent 426 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: to run for reelection, if his own party determined he 427 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: wasn't confident, how could he be confident to hand out pardon? 428 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: So very very good point. Hey, we get a lot 429 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: to get to in the next hour. We'll take some 430 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: more calls. One eight hundred nine one Sewan is the number, 431 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: one eight hundred nine four one Sean. It's Mark Simone 432 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: here normally on our flagship w R. Coming up in 433 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: the next hour. A lot to get to.