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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, thank you, I appreciate it. What was

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Speaker 1: what you say, Well, I had a fifteen minute meeting

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Speaker 1: to meet coach Wells and coach McCarthy. I think with

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Speaker 1: that Senior Ball, for you, it's like you got touch powers.

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Speaker 1: That feels like thanks you got there and that a

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Speaker 1: whole week. Yeah, that was a that was an extremely

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Speaker 1: there's no numbers. It was just straight football and you're

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Speaker 1: was was awesome, and um, not only meet some of

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Speaker 1: the scouting stuff from from Dallas, but also, like like

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Speaker 1: I said, coach Wells as well. One thing we heard

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Speaker 1: phone and he said, I remember the conversation. We had

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Speaker 1: to remember the words. He said, what you guys talk about?

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Speaker 1: What what what's he getting at? Just basically at Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna go by these three words smart, to

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Speaker 1: I'm dependable, and um. Basically that was my pitch to

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Speaker 1: able to pick up the plays. I'm tough for me

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Speaker 1: You can depend on me. And he took those he

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Speaker 1: know anything about Dalton Schultz? He watched his game at though. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: in that sense and just be the guy who not

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Speaker 1: make plays out in the past game. Jake obviously, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Beonnish is here and Wisconsin prides and selves on their

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Speaker 1: offensive wine play blocking. How much does that extend to

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Speaker 1: the tight end position for you in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: being a blocker in line in the space. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well at Wisconsin, if its first time, we're probably running

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm really excited to get back with

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Speaker 1: with him was really, really, really fun, just watching his

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Speaker 1: mean even his huddles were really awesome. So honestly, you've

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Speaker 1: he's been more of a grandpa in this in this

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Speaker 1: My mom was the coach, and she was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: come on, Jake. And then the person who ran the

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Speaker 1: were you? Oh? Uh, flag football, so that would have

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Speaker 1: been tackle football. Was fourth grade and then flag ever

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Speaker 1: was really young. Um so really, i'd say pretty much

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Speaker 1: four years old, five years old. Appreciate your time. Questions again,

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Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate it all right, man, nice job. That

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Speaker 1: remind me never to play soccer with you. Um yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: nice job man. So the last part, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna text you real quick from my cell phones

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Speaker 1: to night five