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Speaker 1: for you something I saw on TV and I was

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Speaker 1: Whereas I just name their names. I don't care. It's

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Speaker 1: it's not taken out of context. Right, Okay, So Shadoor

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Speaker 1: first preseason game as Dan Bayer told you yesterday. That's

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Speaker 1: because Joe Flacco is old.

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Speaker 1: And you know the other two quarterbacks, Dylan Gabriel, who's

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Speaker 1: get a chance to start. But I want you to

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Speaker 1: listen to something that Lewis Ridicks said. Okay, remember Lewis

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Speaker 1: Ridick was a scout in the NFL. He's he's been

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Speaker 1: on a kind of a jet back to success working

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Speaker 1: at ESPN. Here was his take on Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 4: I'm afraid he's gonna get on the field in preseason

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Speaker 4: games without a lot of practice reps, and then they're

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Speaker 4: going to ask him to perform these heroic tasks in

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Speaker 4: when he hasn't had enough reps to really get comfortable.

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Speaker 4: That's the kind of battle he's dealing with right now.

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Speaker 4: I know I've seen it. We've been in these camps.

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Speaker 4: We know how that goes. You don't get enough reps,

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, coaches are going, why are you

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Speaker 4: making that mistake. Why aren't you making that check? Well, damn, coach,

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Speaker 4: I never was in there in practice. You never even

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Speaker 4: he's been trained the right way. But I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making it out like the world is out

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Speaker 1: to get Shador Sanders. And this is one of the

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Speaker 1: most obnoxious things anyone could ever say, when it's about

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Speaker 1: themselves or about somebody else who was born on third base. Right, Sure,

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to start a preseason game. What's more difficult

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Speaker 1: you haven't. You been on set of ESPN, So not

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Speaker 1: Sanders can do it, why would that be the case?

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Speaker 1: What would the purpose be? I mean, just like again,

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Speaker 1: But if the idea is well, they're waiting for your

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Speaker 1: If Shador Sanders hits, okay, they get the steal of

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Speaker 1: the draft. If relevance matters to you, you'll be very relevant.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. They simply want somebody who's good.

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Speaker 1: But this idea, idea that the world's out to get

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Speaker 2: How do you know that? Why would they do that?

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Speaker 1: And the idea that, well, this is just so incredibly difficult.

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Speaker 1: Which one do you think is a more difficult task?

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Speaker 1: remember they're still they still have Deshaun Watson under contract.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is still under contract with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: I believe he gets paid the next two years.

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Speaker 1: They reworked his deal in this offseason. He's got two

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Speaker 1: He tours Achilles ten in twice, so he's not going

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Speaker 1: that I can really play things that NFL teams don't do.

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Speaker 1: You know, again, unless Sador has actually like a complete

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Speaker 1: moved on sign multiple quarterback. Well, why they signed Tyler

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Speaker 1: at practice and everybody else's hurt. You heard Dan Bayer

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Speaker 1: we can win. How can we win games? And you

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Speaker 2: You know, get.

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Speaker 1: Everybody what anything to get. Let's make it super simple

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Speaker 1: But he say, I never forget this. I'd say this

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Speaker 1: with Jason earlier today, like that's entertainment. And yeah, ESPN

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Speaker 1: So the idea that they would rather make Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get it done in the game.

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Speaker 1: Just kiss, keep it simple, stupid. But I told you

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Speaker 1: guys this yesterday and I mean it. Shador Sanders is

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Speaker 1: going to be the new Kaepernick if he gets cut

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Speaker 1: have somebody go. You know, they should sign Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 8: be super critical of certain entities because he might, you know,

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Speaker 8: work for them. But he is a very good interviewer

436
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Speaker 8: and I've always enjoyed his interviews. I always thought his

437
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Speaker 8: voice has a calm sounding voice and does a great

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Speaker 8: job interviewing anybody from sports or outside of sports.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think his desire to do outside of sports

440
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Speaker 1: really is what's pushed him. I think he is really good.

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Speaker 1: He is really knowledgeable, and he he does this stern

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Speaker 1: thing where he kind of takes you down the path

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Speaker 1: of what their what their life was like, and and

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Speaker 1: those major moments.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: I really wish Bob Costas would do a podcast. I

447
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Speaker 3: really would do. He's my favorite of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And and you know who who is actually great as

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Speaker 1: well was Tarico was really good when he had a show.

451
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Speaker 1: Tarrico's issue was that he would never get he would

452
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Speaker 1: never tackle anything negative, perceived negative or whatever. Would just

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Speaker 1: like if somebody's like, yeah, I want to stay away

454
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Speaker 1: from that, Like all right, we're.

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Speaker 3: Not asking He he and what's the word not impersonates,

456
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Speaker 3: but he to me represents everything vanilla in our business.

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Speaker 3: He's nothing edgy at all. About Tarico other than his personal.

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Speaker 2: One talk about thirty years ago.

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Speaker 8: I think I think that's okay. People have certain lanes

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Speaker 8: that they stay in. That's just their brand, you know. Yes,

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Speaker 8: And there's a big enough tent out there. The world

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Speaker 8: is big enough to have all these people under it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: If you want to go to a hard, hinting, hitting interview,

465
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Speaker 8: you go to someone else. If you want maybe something

466
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Speaker 8: that's more positive on in on the script, it's Tarico.

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Speaker 7: I think he does a very good job.

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Speaker 6: I think one constant that we're hearing in a lot

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Speaker 6: of these or these these interviewers get amazing guests. And

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Speaker 6: I also the true like feeling is what about when

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Speaker 6: the guest isn't something that maybe you know about or

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Speaker 6: know of.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that that's when you're really good. Yes, that's when

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Speaker 1: you're really good.

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Speaker 8: Like you're you're bringing this guests like, you know, presence

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Speaker 8: and role in the world to the light of the

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Speaker 8: people that you know.

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Speaker 7: They're some lot.

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Speaker 1: No, let's just I'll be honest you So my All

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Speaker 1: Ball podcast is based upon Howard Stearn's interview of Meghan Trainer.

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Speaker 2: I told you guys this story on air.

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Speaker 3: No tell us some story.

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Speaker 2: That's sarcastm right there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm driving from Murphy'sboro, Tennessee, to Bolding Green, Kentucky.

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Speaker 8: I've been there to mur Borough, home of Middle Tennessee

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Speaker 8: State University.

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Speaker 1: That's right, which, by the way, is like now almost

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Speaker 1: part of Nashville. Nahville has gotten so big anyway, So

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Speaker 1: I decide I'm just drive and there's a gigantic thunderstorm,

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Speaker 1: gigantic and I'm listening to it and I it's it

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Speaker 1: was fascinating, like her life story and I would never

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Speaker 1: be a Meghan Trainer fan. She's just you know, I

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Speaker 1: like one of her songs, but whatever. And the way

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Speaker 1: in which he made her interesting and she told her

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Speaker 1: story was fast to me, so fascinating to me that

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Speaker 1: I was in this terrible thunderstorm and you know, it's

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Speaker 1: going in and out with satellite radio. And my wife

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Speaker 1: at the time she called me and she's like, where

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Speaker 1: are you. I'm like, I don't know, I'm somewhere and she's.

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Speaker 2: Like, well, drop up, hint.

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Speaker 1: I was like why, She's like, because I think you're

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Speaker 1: like in the path of a tornado. I'm like what,

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Speaker 1: So I literally pulled over.

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Speaker 7: I got it.

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Speaker 3: You know that was it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to get out the car, so I posted.

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Speaker 1: I pulled underneath an overpass, which is what you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do, right if you're in the middle of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: you pulled underneath it overpass. But I pulled out just

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Speaker 1: so so that when it was clear I could I.

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Speaker 2: Could hear the interview. Did hear the interview?

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Speaker 1: And uh? Storm passed the whole interview. Did get on

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Speaker 1: my car till it was done?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, was it?

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Speaker 6: Wasn't it Ellie Goulding?

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that who it was?

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Speaker 6: Or Golding? Isn't I thought, I've heard you tell the

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Speaker 6: story before. Maybe it was Megan Trainer.

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Speaker 1: Megan Trainer. She was talking about how she looked. She

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Speaker 1: was in La Reid's office. Oh, and she was supposed

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Speaker 1: to play It wasn't all about that bass. I think

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Speaker 1: it was I'm Gonna love You like I'm gonna lose you,

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Speaker 1: And she thought it was. She just had the first

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Speaker 1: first down and she used to, like Stapleton, write for

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Speaker 1: everybody else and she had to learn how to play

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Speaker 1: the whole song in like a boardroom all day on

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Speaker 1: her ukulele. Finally, end of the day she goes in

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Speaker 1: plays her for La Reid and he's like, great, let's

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Speaker 1: record it. And he's like, for who for you? And

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Speaker 1: that changed your life?

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Speaker 8: Eli Golding can't hold us candle to Megan Trainer's life story. Apparently,

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Speaker 8: according to Doug, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know, Eli Golden, yees.

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Speaker 8: I think we got them confused once this kind of

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Speaker 8: discussion came up sometime in the past.

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Speaker 2: Guys are making fun of me. I know.

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Speaker 1: with call HUNSI slings hits a drive right center field, this.

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Speaker 2: Pop back, he is gone.

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Speaker 7: He's done it again.

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Speaker 4: Two home runs on the night for Monsei and the

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Speaker 4: Dodgers lead at four to two.

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Speaker 1: That's your guy, Max Munsey, right, That's that's what the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers have been needing, is little Max Muncie. Dodgers win,

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Speaker 1: Yankees lose, seems like a good day in the in

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Speaker 1: the ad Jason Stewart household.

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Speaker 3: So there's this theory if you listen to Dodger sports talk,

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Speaker 3: or read the message boards, or you're a part of

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Speaker 3: Dodgers Twitter, there's a segment of people who was not

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Speaker 3: pissed off at Andrew Friedman for doing zero at the

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Speaker 3: trade deadline, and they they were playing the same notes.

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Speaker 3: It was almost like when the Democrats send their talking

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Speaker 3: points out to all their all their political.

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Speaker 1: They all did, by the way, the yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: do the same thing, right.

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Speaker 3: They said, the Dodgers trade deadline are people coming off

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Speaker 3: the IL, Like so many people said that it sounded scripted.

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Speaker 3: Max Munsey came off the IL. So for one night,

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Speaker 3: for a period of two and a half hours, that

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Speaker 3: minority of people who thought they were very clever by

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Speaker 3: saying that the Dodgers trade deadline are people coming off

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Speaker 3: the IL, they were proven right for two and a

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Speaker 3: half hours.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Pretty amazing though, how one guy can one guy can

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Speaker 1: help and we'll see you. You know, Aaron Judge couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it for the Yankees last night, didn't they lose

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Speaker 1: no walk off? I think they did, but you mentioned

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Speaker 1: how much the Yankees need Aaron Judge. Same type of thing, right,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes one guy obviously Aaron Judge a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than Max Muncy. They can make a difference in stats,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes it's just a bad energy. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan in a moment. It's our Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: NFL Insider. He also host the Inside the Birds podcast. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I do think that the Dodgers are the most interesting

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Speaker 1: thing in baseball right, Like, don't get me wrong, living

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. The Brewers are super interesting and they've had

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable year. But the Dodgers, if they have the

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Speaker 1: ability to repeat, and then they were playing so well,

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Speaker 1: and yes it was injuries, but then they just started

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Speaker 1: to fall apart. Now they've won but two of three,

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Speaker 1: three of five, you know, they got to finish up

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Speaker 1: this home stand for the thing on the Angels that

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Speaker 1: it's the Padres series, and then it gets really interesting.

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Speaker 1: They play the Padres like I think six out of

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Speaker 1: nine games, so we'll find out where the Dodgers are

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Speaker 1: at that point in time. Stuck Gottlab show. You're on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome in Adam Kaplan. Of course

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Speaker 1: he has the Inside the Birds podcast. Plus he's our

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio NFL insider, and Adam, let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: What are people like yourself who cover the the NFL

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Speaker 1: saying about the NFL Network and ESPN merger.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting. So Doug, you may or may not

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Speaker 7: have known this, but back I think No. Nine or

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Speaker 7: twenty ten, ESPN and NFL Net in the NFL actually

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Speaker 7: talked about potential for a merger, but I didn't go far.

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Speaker 7: But and there were there were concerns about how much

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Speaker 7: control the NFL wanted over content and all that, so

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Speaker 7: it didn't happen. I just remember when I got to

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Speaker 7: ESPN in twenty thirteen, it's one of the first things

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Speaker 7: I heard about. And then you always want to could

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Speaker 7: this ever happen? And it's going to happen, and we're waiting.

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Speaker 7: Obviously it's got to get approved by government and it

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Speaker 7: will and then see how this shakes out. But it's

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Speaker 7: it's very interesting a lot of people are curious about

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Speaker 7: what this is going to look like. We're certain shows,

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Speaker 7: shows going to go? What control? What is NFL? What

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Speaker 7: is ESPN going to do with NFL networks programming? Certain shows?

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Speaker 7: Are they going to get a rid of shows? What's absorbed?

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Speaker 7: What's not that? When you have a merger, that's what happens.

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Speaker 7: It's like, what do they take? What do they decide

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Speaker 7: not to keep going? So it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really really interesting, really interesting. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: get to some of the stuff. What's going on with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? He had Jerry Jones with the acting like

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Speaker 1: they had a deal agreed to. He's like, hey, when

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Speaker 1: about the cowboys? Thirty second conversation, a handshake agreement, But

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons still hasn't signed the term sheet.

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Speaker 2: What are you hearing about? What's actually going on in Dallas?

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Speaker 7: All right, here's what happened, so and here and I'll

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Speaker 7: get to where we're at now. So basically, Jerry Jones

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Speaker 7: and Michael Parsons had some pretty interesting conversations about what

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Speaker 7: the contract would look like, land guarantees and so forth.

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Speaker 7: But Parsons put a stop to it because He's like,

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Speaker 7: wait a minute, my agent's not involved. I haven't agreed

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Speaker 7: to anything. But they did talk. They talked heavily what

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Speaker 7: it would look like. But David mulget is his agent,

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Speaker 7: and Jerry never ran it by Mulligeta, and Parson's put

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Speaker 7: a stop to it, so we moved back. We move

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Speaker 7: this forward a bunch of months, and he's having a

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Speaker 7: hold in his Parsons and Jerry Jones thinks that they

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Speaker 7: had a handshake agreement, but Jerry tried to pull a

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Speaker 7: fast one. It's it's not good. If you're Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 7: you simply can't play on the contract that you have,

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Speaker 7: and nor does he plan to. And the Cowboys they

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Speaker 7: would like the deal done like Michael would, but Jerry

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Speaker 7: wants to kind of hold him to what they agreed to.

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Speaker 7: But Micah, of course doesn't think he agreed to anything.

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Speaker 7: They just they talked heavily about what it would look like.

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Speaker 7: So he's gonna make Parsons's gonna make twenty four million

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Speaker 7: this season, and then you know, if for some reason

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Speaker 7: this doesn't get done by the start of the season,

652
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Speaker 7: which I still think it will, then you've got next year.

653
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 7: On the fifth year option. But he's so vastly underpaid.

654
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 7: I mean, we got deals now over forty million for

655
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 7: edge rushers, and the guy JJ Watt turns thirty one

656
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 7: this fall and it's going to average forty one million

657
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 7: a season. So yet this has to get done. This

658
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 7: circus is just it's this is a different one though.

659
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 7: I'll tell you this is for as long as I've

660
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 7: covered this business twenty seven years, I've not seen a

661
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 7: situation like this where owner back tried to backdoor a

662
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 7: contract negotiation without the agent being involved.

663
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Why did he do that?

664
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Speaker 7: You already you would have to ask him. I See

665
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 7: what I find interesting is I know that Jerry and

666
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 7: Mike have had an interesting relationship where Mike has respected

667
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 7: Jerry a lot and they've talked a lot. And now

668
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 7: Jerry might say, hey, listen, I just wanted to talk

669
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 7: to him and see where he was at and escalade

670
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 7: to something. But Jerry never said, hey, let's get your

671
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 7: asient involved, let's get this done right now. It was

672
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 7: He's like, it's kind of like you mentioned the term sheet, Well,

673
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 7: we've got agreement average per season length and guarantee it

674
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 7: signing that did and then obviously your agent has to

675
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 7: look it over.

676
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: But that's it.

677
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 7: That's that's kind of the way that he looked at it.

678
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 7: And that's not the way you have to do it,

679
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 7: because he Parsons clearly says he did not agree to it.

680
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: But again, but what is the why would they grab

681
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: him and not run it by his agent?

682
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: What is the main.

683
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 7: Well, because because you know, in contracts you can have

684
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 7: a verbal agreement, but it's not you can't enforce it

685
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 7: because it's not written. And that's what you know. Jerry

686
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 7: was talking about that in a way that with the

687
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 7: media this week. He knows that they have to have it,

688
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 7: they have to have a contract, but he thinks it's

689
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 7: a foregone conclusion that they have a deal. So that

690
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 7: what you're what you have is their loggerheads here and

691
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 7: at some point Jerry Jones has got to talk to

692
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 7: his agent, David Mulligata. And in the way it is,

693
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 7: as you know, in contract negotiation, so you don't lose leverage,

694
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 7: neither side wants to call each other. That's that's the

695
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 7: way I can tell you with NFL contracts, it typically

696
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 7: it's like the agent does not want to call. They

697
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 7: typically will not call less absolutely necessary.

698
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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox supports radio term mc lauren.

699
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: What's going on there?

700
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you've this is very odd hold it. He

701
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 7: claims he's got an ankle injury. They definitely want to

702
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 7: do a deal. He wants to get a deal. They're

703
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 7: not close as a couple as forty eight hours ago,

704
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 7: I understanding was that they were not close. He wants

705
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 7: a deal in the neighborhood of DK Metcalf, which is

706
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 7: thirty three million year. Metcalf, by the way, is a

707
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 7: couple of years younger. Mclaurin's sort of like the heart

708
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 7: and saw the football team. Here's what you have, Doug,

709
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 7: to sum us up. You've got a GM in Adam Peters,

710
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 7: who definitely wants to extend mclaurin's contract. But he doesn't

711
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 7: have the same urgency that you would have if you

712
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 7: have if you drafted the player, and he just doesn't

713
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 7: have that. It's just the way it is. He just

714
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 7: forever reason doesn't see it the way McLaurin does. Now

715
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 7: they're not. It's not like they offered him twenty million

716
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 7: and he wants thirty three. You're talking about somewhere around

717
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 7: twenty seven to twenty eight million. They got to get

718
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 7: it up. They got to move up, and plus they

719
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 7: got to guarantee at least two years and maybe even

720
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 7: part partially for the third. So they're not there yet,

721
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 7: but the season doesn't start till September. But it's not good.

722
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 7: One thing you should know, Doug and why. It's highly

723
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 7: unluckly not impossible, but it's highly unlikely that they would

724
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 7: want to trade a McLaurin. They have no one to

725
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 7: fill in for him, literally nobody, and Deebo Samuel doesn't

726
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 7: play the same position receiver position, but he plays more

727
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 7: of a slot gadget hand it off slants where mclaurin's

728
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 7: there one deep threat. So yeah, they're not prepared now.

729
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 7: If something escalates, I could tell you that they would

730
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 7: have to get a receiver back in the trade, but again,

731
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 7: they really don't want to trade him.

732
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: I want to play for you something.

733
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Speaker 1: This is Lewis Riddick, Yeah, who work with them? Okay, So,

734
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: so Shador Sanders is going to start the first preseason

735
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: game for the Browns, right, And it's by default right

736
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: because they got injuries to the three guys that had

737
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: him on the depth chart, or at least two of

738
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: them at them on the depth chart, with Joe Flacco

739
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: being old enough. We know we know Joe FLACKO. Okay,

740
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: so this was Lewis Riddick earlier today.

741
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Speaker 4: I'm afraid he's gonna get on the field in preseason

742
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 4: games without a lot of practice reps, and then they're

743
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Speaker 4: going to ask him to perform these heroic tasks in

744
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: order to prove that he's worthy of being a starter

745
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: when he hasn't had enough reps to really get comfortable.

746
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 4: That's the kind of battle he's dealing with right now.

747
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: I know I've seen it. We've been in these camps.

748
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: We know how that goes. You don't get enough reps.

749
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: They play a whole half of a game, and then

750
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, coaches are going, why are you

751
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: making that mistake? Why aren't you making that check? Well,

752
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: damn coach, I never was in there in practice. You

753
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: never even talked to me during practice, But now you

754
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: expect me to know. That's what they're gonna expect of him.

755
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: But if anyone can get it done, it's this kid,

756
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: because he's been trained the right way. But I'm telling you,

757
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: he is ice skating uphill.

758
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So he's paying a very difficult picture for Shudor Sanders,

759
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: which is reasonable, but he's acting like the Browns are

760
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: intentionally putting him in a situation where he's going to

761
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Speaker 1: fail and holding him to a standard which would be

762
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Speaker 1: deemed as unfair. Again, that defies logic to me, because

763
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Speaker 1: the Browns they should want a young quarterback to be

764
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: able to play, to do what San Francisco has done

765
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: the last four years and play a guy and not

766
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Speaker 1: pay him anything. What's the reality on your hearing of

767
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: how the Browns feel about shred Or Sanders.

768
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 7: Well, a couple of things, Doug. The thing that Rick

769
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 7: is talking about, I think is that Sanders has had

770
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 7: very little work with their first team offense. And that's

771
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Speaker 7: you know, that's not great because it's a timing thing,

772
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 7: a rhythm thing.

773
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Speaker 2: You would you rather play with the fourth stringers?

774
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 7: Well here's the but no again, I'm just telling you

775
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 7: where I'm just explaining you from a football.

776
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: I understand what he said.

777
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand he's been like one day throwing

778
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: with with the ones he's had obviously all this lead

779
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: up and prep after that, But I get like, what

780
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: what are the other options that they have well they

781
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: have Tyler Huntley.

782
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, they they signed Tyler Huntley, who just got there,

783
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 7: by the ways, been with them before, and now their

784
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 7: decision not to play Flacco, it's not about evaluating him.

785
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 7: They know what they have in Flacco. He brought them

786
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 7: to the playoffs two years ago. You could say, look why,

787
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 7: One might say why why isn't Flack would just play

788
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 7: the first half and Sanders closed the second half, played

789
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 7: the second if that, that, to me would been the

790
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 7: smart thing. But they want Sanders to start here. It's

791
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 7: it's not I it's not ideal. I would agree with

792
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 7: Lewis on that. It's not a great thing. Now here's

793
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 7: the thing.

794
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Much I'm just I'm just telling you right now. I

795
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: think it's it's it makes no sense.

796
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 7: I agree with you.

797
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: But let me play player perspective.

798
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: From my from my senses, I would so much rather

799
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Speaker 1: play with better players around me, better offensive lineman, better

800
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: skill position players, better guys. I can play with them less.

801
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: And they're not gonna give him some ornate you know,

802
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: game plan right like, nor are they going to see

803
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: exotic blitz us from the defense.

804
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: It's meat and potatoes.

805
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: Nobody's showing anything. I would rather play with the good

806
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: players than play with the guys that are likely to

807
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: be on no rosters or some other roster.

808
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 7: Although I would tell you though, when you when you're

809
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 7: a third or four shiing quarterback, which you generally has been,

810
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 7: you've worked a lot with those backups.

811
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: So again I understand when you've worked with more, others

812
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: are just clearly better. I'd what I I'm just I

813
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: would much rather play with the starters. That's way better

814
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: to me.

815
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, I hear you on that. I honestly again to

816
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 7: move us alonger, I would have started Flacco, but Stefanski,

817
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski, who's their play caller, decided differently.

818
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: You mentioned your desires, like I would have started Flacco.

819
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams that are playing their starters.

820
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 7: In I know it's changed.

821
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: Do you know why?

822
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Like we went through like A we went through what A?

823
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: When did McVeigh become the head coach of the Rams?

824
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: This is like seventeen years.

825
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 7: Ago, seventeen, maybe twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen.

826
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so wow, it's a long tap. So almost the

827
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: last decade, Sean McVay has greatly influenced most of the

828
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: league most league. It was like, yeah, we'll play him

829
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he was like, we're not playing

830
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: him now of a sudden, you know, the pendulum swings.

831
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: Why all right?

832
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 7: So the ways explaining to me is this because I

833
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 7: asked the same question. What there are two things that

834
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 7: have happened. First of all, we went from four to

835
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 7: three preseason games, right that that changed, And the fourth

836
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 7: preseason game is when nobody would play. Third, the third

837
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 7: preseason game was the dress rehearsal. Well, the starters would

838
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 7: play into the second half. They don't do that anymore.

839
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 7: In fact, what you're seeing is, okay, the starters will

840
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 7: come a lot some some teams will play their starters

841
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 7: if they've got to join practice next week. They use

842
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 7: to joint practice as the as the work for the week,

843
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 7: and they don't play in the preseason game. That's been

844
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 7: because the the joint practices have been the big thing

845
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 7: is you know in the National Football League for last

846
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 7: oh four or five years in big time, not every

847
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 7: team all majority of the NFL teams do it. Sure,

848
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 7: but it's what what i'd heard is it's one it's

849
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 7: one last one fewer and the setups a little bit

850
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 7: different with with one less game to evaluate, you want

851
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 7: to get your starters in a little bit more. Now

852
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 7: McVeigh doesn't seem to care. He just he's like, we're

853
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 7: not getting anyone hurt. You know. It's funny Andy Reid

854
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 7: when he was in Philly, he he just he said

855
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 7: to me one year because I'm like, coach, why didn't

856
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 7: you play your starters? Just like my job is to

857
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 7: get my guys to the to the regular season healthy

858
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 7: as possible. But he's changed that with Kansas City, he's

859
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 7: done sort of a one to eighty.

860
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: You mentioned Philadelphia. Obviously this is another another super Bowl

861
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: and another departure of their offensive coordinator. How does their

862
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: offense look so far in the preseason.

863
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's been uneven. Look, it's it's hard

864
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 7: to go against Vic Fangio's defense, the Egles defense coordinator. Now,

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Speaker 7: they don't blitz, but you know, the number one defense

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Speaker 7: last season. And they've had some injuries. A. J. Brown's

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Speaker 7: missed practical with the hamstring injury. DeVante Smith missed overweek

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Speaker 7: with a back injury, so that that's definitely been a

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Speaker 7: problem for getting their timing down. But the last three

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Speaker 7: days of practice this week they've done much better. And

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Speaker 7: you know, the big issue for them though, and I

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Speaker 7: spoke about their defense, is they're gonna have a minimum

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Speaker 7: of five new starters on defense. They're having a That's

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Speaker 7: why they made this trade this week with the Raiders

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Speaker 7: to to get a corner. They're struggling a little bit

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Speaker 7: opposite Quinnon Mitche who's her first round pick last season. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Jacorey and Bennett is the corner. It's gonna wear a number.

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Speaker 7: But he not came out from Raiders, so by the way,

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Speaker 7: Eagles really liked Uh. He unfortunately had laboram surgery, shoulder

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Speaker 7: labor surgery. So he's fine now he's been in practice.

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Speaker 7: But that's the situation to watch the left cornerback position

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Speaker 7: for the Eagles, it's it's it's not not looking good

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Speaker 7: right now. That which is why they may just they

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Speaker 7: just made this trade this week.

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Speaker 1: All right, NFL NFC North is really interesting. Let's start

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. What are you hearing Jordan Addison suspended first

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Speaker 1: three games. That doesn't help the wide receiving core. And

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Speaker 1: you got essentially a rookie quarterback in JJ McCarthy. You know, look,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. We watched little clips, but the

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Speaker 1: little clips don't look great. What are you hearing in

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Speaker 1: terms of returns on JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so so I'm gonna go back to last summer.

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Speaker 7: So when he came in, you know, he's a first

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Speaker 7: round pick and a lot of teams I talked to fact,

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Speaker 7: I know team's had a their round great on him.

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Speaker 7: He had issues with mechanics, footwork, and boy, Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 7: made great strides with him. He got hurt in that

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Speaker 7: first preseason game against the Raiders, and he looked fantastic.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he looked really good. And then he tours

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Speaker 7: miniscus sometime in that game, and and his off season.

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Speaker 7: Remember he didn't get clear till till June. It's been

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Speaker 7: uneven you know you mentioned Addison. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 7: lot of practice. He just can't. He can't play for

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Speaker 7: three weeks, first three games. But they're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 7: They're gonna be okay. Tej Hocketts dealing with something that

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Speaker 7: their start tight end, which is why they just signed

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Speaker 7: a tight end this week. Now, one thing you should

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Speaker 7: know is they're gonna have three new starters on their

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Speaker 7: offensive line and then Christian Darrisol missed all last season

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Speaker 7: with an ac ell injury, so it's a little bit

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Speaker 7: of work in progress there with.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, Yeah, Ken, you a scrimmage doesn't look great.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of chattery. Doesn't look great. But what

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Speaker 1: are you hearing about the reality of how the second

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Speaker 1: year of quarterbacks plan.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been. It's look, it's been very challenging for

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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson to get cable ones to play with discipline,

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Speaker 7: it's been. He's certainly been uneven. It's gonna take some time.

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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson coaches real hard. He did a great job

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Speaker 7: with Jared Goff, who was a reclamation project after he

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Speaker 7: came up from the Rams. This is gonna take more.

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Speaker 7: Williams mechanics are aren't great. He's got great talent, loose

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Speaker 7: thrower man, he's got a great arm. They're super loaded

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Speaker 7: with offensive talent, skill positions. They too much of Minnesota.

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Speaker 7: They have three new starters on the tier of their

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Speaker 7: offensive line. But they're super excited about the upside of

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Speaker 7: this team. And Ben Jonson will say this, he coaches

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Speaker 7: hard and he's brought a ton of discipline in They're

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Speaker 7: building and the players so far of taken to it

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Speaker 7: because there's going to be accountabilding that building, because there

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Speaker 7: was not last season.

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Speaker 2: You're the best man.

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Speaker 1: Love working with you, love having you on, and love

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Speaker 1: your your overall knowledge of everything that's going on.

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