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Speaker 1: look at the way Rogers is playing right now. He

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Speaker 1: looks healthy, he looks strong, and he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: got that swagger where once again, doesn't really matter who

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Speaker 1: it is that he's throwing the football too, He's gonna

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Speaker 1: find a way to stick it in there. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: playing rack like he did about four or five years ago.

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. I think that the confidence

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Speaker 1: Lovely has in his guys around him, there's been some

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Speaker 1: guys step up. Alan Lazar art Is stepped up, a

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Speaker 1: guy that was on their practice squad from receiver standpoint

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Speaker 1: is stepped up when they needed too. He's found a

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Speaker 1: couple of tight ends. He's always had success. When he

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Speaker 1: has a tight end, they can go get the football.

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Speaker 1: And then Jones, the running back is stepped up as well,

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Speaker 1: so they've got a nice little mix of what they're

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Speaker 1: doing on offense. But I think they're in year two

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Speaker 1: and he and Matt Lafleur have blended. They spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time in the offseason doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff together, so it's been a nice blend. They're doing

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Speaker 1: a lot of good things on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean, I think if you look at

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Speaker 1: his stats, I mean, there's there's other guys that you

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Speaker 1: can look to in the NFL to say that they're

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Speaker 1: doing better than what Aaron Rodgers is. Right now, you

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Speaker 1: could say the Patrick Mahomes the Russell Wilson's of the world.

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Speaker 1: But the way that he is putting this team on

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Speaker 1: his back with some you know, i'd call it more

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Speaker 1: journeymen arch. I mean, that's kind of what I look

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Speaker 1: at so far. What's going on is he's kind of

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Speaker 1: doing this like the Tom Brady New England has done.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that Alan Lazard, how about the Robert Tonyan

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Speaker 1: at tight end? Like, oh, I'm sorry, Like this is

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Speaker 1: not Jimmy Graham anymore. But these are the guys that

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Speaker 1: he's making successful and they're winning games. And they're putting

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Speaker 1: up As I mentioned, I'm over almost forty one points

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Speaker 1: per game. So let's talk about arch on the flip

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Speaker 1: side of the Saints. Where are they at right now?

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Speaker 1: Because you look at their offense, and yes, Alvin Kamara

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Speaker 1: is still one of the most dynamic playmakers in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But to me, their offense just doesn't look the same

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Speaker 1: right now without Michael Thomas. Yeah, Michael Thomas being out

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Speaker 1: of the lineup. And I do think that they found

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Speaker 1: a little bit of silver lining because they did get

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sayer's a little bit more involved in the second half,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that'll be bode well for them

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Speaker 1: moving forward. You know, you know wor's Jared Cook been.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you watch the Saints play, Breeze has always been

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Speaker 1: a guy who likes to get the ball at the

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Speaker 1: tight end. Remember Jimmy Graham. We've had what Ben Watson

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Speaker 1: was down there for a year or two where he

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Speaker 1: had ability to get the ball in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field and try to fit that in. Jared Cook

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Speaker 1: has not been a big part of this offense. And

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Speaker 1: that's where I would go to with the Saints is

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Speaker 1: they become a little bit too predictable Alvin Camaro with

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Speaker 1: the football, you're throwing it to him or running it,

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Speaker 1: and then there's a sprinkling of stuff for everybody else. Now,

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas coming back will help out with that a

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Speaker 1: little bit because they certainly have a vice blend. But

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Speaker 1: right now I think that Sean Payton is sitting in

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Speaker 1: his laboratory trying to figure out with Breeze, Okay, how

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Speaker 1: do you distribute the ball to more people. I think

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Speaker 1: they're too dependent on what Camara brings the table for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the other struggle right now for the Saints

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Speaker 1: is what's going on on defense. I mean, they're giving

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Speaker 1: up about thirty plus points per game, and you think

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Speaker 1: about the team's arch and Shock that are kind of

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Speaker 1: in that same area as far as how many points

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Speaker 1: they're giving up per game. The combined record of those

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Speaker 1: six teams kind of in that same area is two

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Speaker 1: and sixteen. So it's just it's sometimes it's not rocket science.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be able to stop the opposing offense

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Speaker 1: heat points off the board, even if you've got an

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Speaker 1: electric quarterback like Drew Brees, in order to have a

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Speaker 1: chance to win. So Shock, I'm gonna hold off on

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Speaker 1: the Saints. We're gonna move and I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 1: talk about Brady's Bucks as they end up playing the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: And now we've had a chance to see kind of

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Speaker 1: the good and the bad of the Tampa Bay Bucks

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Speaker 1: with some of these new editions, and now through three games, Shot,

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell me and Arch and everybody

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Speaker 1: else that's listening, what you think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: are so far in twenty twenty. You all right, guy,

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Speaker 1: I still think it's to be determined. I still think

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Speaker 1: it's early. I think they're still figuring out how to

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Speaker 1: use multiple guys, how to use you know, the plutth

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Speaker 1: of tight ends that they have. I think Mike Evans

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Speaker 1: had two receptions for two yards and a touchdown, like

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Speaker 1: I mean last year. Of course, with Jameis Winson, they

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Speaker 1: would turn it over, but they would still having a

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Speaker 1: threat the deep ball, and that hasn't been up there

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Speaker 1: in the first few games. But playing the Broncos, obviously

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Speaker 1: they didn't have Drew locks, so they were a little

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Speaker 1: limited on offensively. But the Bucks are still to be determined,

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Speaker 1: and I believe they're still working through that offense with

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians and Byron Leftwich on who they want to

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Speaker 1: be and how somewhere Well, Archer is talking about with

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Speaker 1: the Saints, how to distribute the football to all these

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Speaker 1: different weapons that they have, and Brady's still trying to

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Speaker 1: find that continuity. And you're talking about Grump saying he

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Speaker 1: knows his role. He's coming there to be a blocker now.

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Speaker 1: So it's only a matter of time before you know,

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Speaker 1: Bronk has one of those big time games for a

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Speaker 1: hundred yards and they find that rhythm. So I think

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Speaker 1: you still will be to the determining for these Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: and you know what they were looking like later on, Dave,

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Speaker 1: are you agreeing or disagreeing with shocks perspective on to

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Speaker 1: be determined on the Buccaneers? Well, I think that that's

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Speaker 1: a good way to put it, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: more about what their defense provides them what you're getting.

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Speaker 1: The only difference you're getting in the two wins is

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Speaker 1: they didn't turn the football over what was their undoing

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Speaker 1: a year ago as they turned the football over Jami's

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Speaker 1: through thirty interceptions. Brady was brought in yes to be

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Speaker 1: that veteran quarterback that's won championships, but don't turn the

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Speaker 1: football over. If you don't turn the football over, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. Their defense limited Bronk the Broncos

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Speaker 1: to forty four yards rushing in this game. Harass the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's to me where their bread is buttered is the

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Speaker 1: defense he side of the football. And then if Brady

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Speaker 1: can take care of the ball and then start to

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Speaker 1: find some of these guys to get them the ball,

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Speaker 1: because when you look at their numbers, then knock you dead.

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Speaker 1: What they did on offense, they just didn't turn it

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Speaker 1: over and they cashed in their opportunities and they leaned

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Speaker 1: on that defense. It's been pretty good. Yeah. The one

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Speaker 1: thing that really stuck out to me, Arch and I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of in your camp with the defense is they

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Speaker 1: were attacking the Broncos the entire game. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the quarterback was under pressure, The entire offense was

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Speaker 1: under pressure. But they end up getting six sacks in

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Speaker 1: that game and two interceptions. And when you're causing that

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Speaker 1: kind of havoc on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: good things are going to happen, especially when you got

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Speaker 1: a guy named Tom Brady on the other side. The

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Speaker 1: interesting thing to hear to note though, is that we are, guys,

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Speaker 1: going to find out how good the Bucks are over

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Speaker 1: the next four games. Think about this, Chargers next one

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Speaker 1: and two. Not that big of a deal at Chicago

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Speaker 1: three and O, Green Bay three and OZ at Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas two and one. So we're going to get a

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Speaker 1: chance to see where Tampa's at over this next four

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Speaker 1: game stretch because they've got some formidable opponents on their schedule. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: I think the discussion was great. I think we talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about some very interesting topics, the things that

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Speaker 1: are really pressing with the Atlanta Falcons moving forward. And

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Speaker 1: as you know, I mentioned that the Bucks are gonna

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Speaker 1: end up playing the Packers. The Falcons, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: their work cut out for them playing Green Bay this weekend.

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Speaker 1: So before we sign off, I'm gonna give I mean

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Speaker 1: to give you guys one last chance. DJ I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with you in order for the Falcons to get

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Speaker 1: a victory this weekend. Here we go with my filling

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Speaker 1: the bikes again. They need to go ahead. It's it's finished.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the most obvious thing. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks had opportunities to finish, had an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to close people out and not been able to

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Speaker 1: do it. I think it has to come down to

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Speaker 1: last you know, and it gets the Cowboys is the

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Speaker 1: third quarter this week he was a fourth quarter. That

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Speaker 1: second half has to be better. And I'll say this

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys who I thought step to the

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Speaker 1: play dark boys. Denard played really well out in that

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Speaker 1: corner spot. I thought he did an excellent job filling

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Speaker 1: in for aj Treil, having really continues to shine in

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Speaker 1: his uh this year with you know, three games with

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Speaker 1: the hunting yard receiver. So there are some positives going

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Speaker 1: on for this football team, but now everybody hasn't bringing

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Speaker 1: along in tennis the ball game. Yeah, Unfortunately, in a

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Speaker 1: situation like this, the positives always get over Chattow before

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Speaker 1: we sign off Arch, the Falcons need to do what

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Speaker 1: this weekend to come away with a win. They got

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Speaker 1: to continue to play on the offensive side of the football.

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Speaker 1: You can't go in a lull in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Give the Bears credit, they got something going. They found

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Speaker 1: a little something against the Falcon defense. Falcon defense was

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Speaker 1: outstanding the first three quarters of the game, limited to

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Speaker 1: what one of nine on third down. That's winning football.

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Speaker 1: So help me out on the offense, he said, I

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Speaker 1: know you put twenty six of points on the board.

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Speaker 1: This is the National Football League. Go score some more

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Speaker 1: points for me. We saw it in the Monday night

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Speaker 1: game when Baltimore closed the cushion to twenty seven twenty.

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Speaker 1: What did Patrick Mahomes do in that offense. They went

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Speaker 1: right down the field and shoved one in the end

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Speaker 1: zone to put the game out of reach. That's what

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Speaker 1: you have to do. You cannot go into a lull

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Speaker 1: on offense in the fourth quarter when your team needs

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Speaker 1: you the most. That's where our bread's buttered. That's where

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Speaker 1: all our stars are on the defense, offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. Go get it, go take the game. Arch.

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Speaker 1: You just got me excited. Like I'm forty three years old.

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Speaker 1: My body is nowhere near but I want to go play.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Arch is feeling it. DJ, He's got that right,

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Speaker 1: answer your own question right, filling the blank. The Falcons

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Speaker 1: need to put their foot on the gas in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. That's what they need to do. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: don't one hundred and fifty. Don't go one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty like le Yadi in Atlanta, right but still ye

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, sure, somewhat's safe. That's what I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: that you might do. All right, fellas, I appreciate y'all

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Speaker 1: joining me Arch, getting me fired up, and of course

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Speaker 1: DJ sharing his perspective of never being a part of

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Speaker 1: a losing team, so that's always good. Sorry, sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I can fire up brother. Maybe next week, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe next week, And I'm looking forward to seeing the

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Speaker 1: Falcons back in action, of course against Green Band. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll have a whole lot more positive things to talk about. Arch, DJ,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here on the Falcons

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Speaker 1: Audible presented by AT and T, and we will see

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Speaker 1: you once again next week for another podcast right here, folks.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, h