WEBVTT - #177 Don't fall into this trap...

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<v Speaker 1>You have a distorted view of men and what they

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<v Speaker 1>what the role in a relationship should be. You could

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<v Speaker 1>see men in a light where they you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>look for someone that's an over protector. You're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>in a light where you don't trust any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna look in a light that maybe it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to be open about not trusting. But either way, this

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<v Speaker 1>story points you in a direction where you have a

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<v Speaker 1>blurred line of what a man is in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't fall for that trap. What's up everybody? Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, Episode one hundred and seventy seven. Got my

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<v Speaker 1>buddy Bernie with me one seventy seven. That's incredible, man,

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<v Speaker 1>What are we cooking up for two hundred because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a big milestone Pastor Chad coma, Yeah, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I just by the way, I just saw Pastor Chad

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<v Speaker 1>in Montana, went up there and visited him and he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. I miss having him on here. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to start coming more often, hopefully back to Texas and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll have to get on here. So maybe we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>an episode two hundred's that's creeping up man, it is

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<v Speaker 1>and the live one we talked about last year, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two hundreds A live one. Man, I'm really excited about

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<v Speaker 1>that idea. Yeah, do so. We would like to take

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast live, me and Bernie in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>live audience where you stand up, we passed around microphones,

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<v Speaker 1>we record it, and you ask in real time. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we do this without notes or preparing, so that there

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<v Speaker 1>would be no difference. We would just go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be incredible. So if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>on a place that allows you to comment, like YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know in the comments a city for Bernie

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<v Speaker 1>Night to go to. That'd be awesome. They will do

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<v Speaker 1>a little tour, like a podcast tour, like three or

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<v Speaker 1>four days. Love it go hit three or four cities. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some applause after we're done would actually feel kind of nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really it's just quiet in here, guys, so quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>See you next time. Crickets podcast tour. I like this idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We could jump on Southwest airlines, hit some Southwest cities

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe Austin would be one, Maybe Houston, Dallas. What

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<v Speaker 1>if we go to monta city, What if we go

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<v Speaker 1>to Montana to Chad, Yeah, that could be one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Bozeman is now Southwest City. Well, not that it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be that airline. We can go to Kalispell, we

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<v Speaker 1>can go to We got to hit the west coast,

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<v Speaker 1>got to hit the east coast, got to hit the south.

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<v Speaker 1>Comment below where do you think we should go? Can't

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<v Speaker 1>forget the Midwest? To do it? Ohio or Michigan in

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<v Speaker 1>there somewhere do three or four man? It would be

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. Yeah, I love it. Okay, So things coming?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah twenty three Griz. What we do here? In case

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like, what are they talking about? We answer

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<v Speaker 1>your questions. You email Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and we walk through them like we're just sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>a campfire. Okay, So first question here, subject line says,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do about nursing school? Hey Granger, I

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<v Speaker 1>lost my time right here. Maybe I'm not a bit Bernie.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me bad luck on tiers. I'll just keep

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<v Speaker 1>track of this. Got it says, Hey Granger. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Cheyenne. I'm twenty two, currently struggling with the decision

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<v Speaker 1>to finish nursing school. I'm about halfway done, but I

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<v Speaker 1>keep getting this feeling that's not what I'm meant to do.

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<v Speaker 1>My anxiety gets worse when I'm at school or clinical.

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<v Speaker 1>I broke down while at the hospital rotation. I prayed

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<v Speaker 1>about this a lot, and my husband is very supportive

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever I decide, We've had many talks about this

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<v Speaker 1>and we've prayed together as well. But I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in my life won't agree or will

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<v Speaker 1>I have something to say if I decide to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel confused and lost. Any advice, thank you? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I believe that the human experience is very much

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<v Speaker 1>layered with so many different circumstances and influences, and so

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<v Speaker 1>at a glance, I know there may be something that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not putting here that would if I knew that,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, yeah, you maybe need consider quitting.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm only going on what you've said here,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to finish. Like I feel like people I

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<v Speaker 1>know are and myself are doing really hard things right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're getting into it and they're like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so hard. I'm thinking about quitting, and I'm like, don't quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Finish what you start. Yeah, there's so much growth that

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<v Speaker 1>we can gain, and you don't even get that until

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<v Speaker 1>you get to the place where you want to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you keep going, and then you keep going

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of personal growth there. So I say, keep going,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get done and be very glad that you finished it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have much to add to that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>totally agree, Cheyenne. Let's sit with you just for a

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<v Speaker 1>second and just say, yeah, get it, get it. Life

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<v Speaker 1>comes at you fast. Sometimes sometimes you bite off more

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<v Speaker 1>than you could chew. You sign up for something that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't think it was going to be that hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You're twenty two, you're newly married. Probably you got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things going on besides nursing school. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're praying about this. You've got a great supportive husband,

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<v Speaker 1>which is amazing. Me and Bernie are saying, don't quit.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be a nurse. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to take this as a career, but I think you

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<v Speaker 1>do have to finish school. What's interesting about anything like

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<v Speaker 1>this is to think how special it would be to

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<v Speaker 1>be a nurse and to be helping others, and to

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<v Speaker 1>be pouring into these lives and helping heal people and

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<v Speaker 1>give them, give them relief from their pain or or

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of you know, anecdote for their struggle. You

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<v Speaker 1>get that with being a nurse. Did you think it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be easy to have that kind of responsibility? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think anyone could just sign up for that

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<v Speaker 1>the responsibility a nurse has, and God bless all of

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<v Speaker 1>y'all listening that are nurses. The responsibility that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to people in a community. Do you think that's just

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<v Speaker 1>handed out freely? Or do you think that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you study and toil over and lose sleep over and

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<v Speaker 1>have panic attacks sometimes because it's so much on you

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<v Speaker 1>and in order to earn that certificate so that you

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<v Speaker 1>could pour into the community. Aren't we glad that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a gatekeeper for our nurses so that no one

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<v Speaker 1>could just sign up and anyone could be a nurse, right?

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<v Speaker 1>You put your life. They're sticking needles in you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yeah, I filled out a form and

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<v Speaker 1>then they gave me this job. I would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not touching me. Yeah. It makes you think that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that sticks you with the needle. You go, was

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<v Speaker 1>nursing school tough? And they look at you and go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really tough. It took everything I had just

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<v Speaker 1>to finish. In fact, I wanted to quit and then

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<v Speaker 1>we all collectively say thank you for not quitting, because

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<v Speaker 1>now you're serving the community. So Cheyenne, don't quit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not dismissing at all the difficulty and if and there's

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<v Speaker 1>also something to be you didn't say this, but like

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a relative that you know became sick

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, you have to like your

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<v Speaker 1>your time and attention from outside forces all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden was like taken somewhere, Like you need your bandwidth

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<v Speaker 1>to really go serve something that just happened in your

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<v Speaker 1>family or your community. That's a totally different thing. Then yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just it's harder than I thought. Not dismissing

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling of it being harder than you thought. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like Granger said, you gotta keep at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna you're gonna be really thinking that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, I think, yep, you are. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to the next question subject line, help me move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Grangdarmin. Name is Hannah. I'm nineteen just started listening

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<v Speaker 1>to your podcast. I really enjoy it. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the encouragement. And I recently when I was says when

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<v Speaker 1>I was around age of seven, my older brother started

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<v Speaker 1>sexually assaulting me and it lasted for four years. When

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<v Speaker 1>he finally confessed to my parents, I thought that I

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<v Speaker 1>was free and something would be done to help me

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<v Speaker 1>and him. My dad did nothing for years. He let

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<v Speaker 1>my brother live there, and after he moved out, he

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<v Speaker 1>came back home after two years, let him stay and

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<v Speaker 1>acted as if it was normal. I found out a

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<v Speaker 1>couple years later that shortly after confessing, my mom had

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<v Speaker 1>found out my brother in a closet. Had found my

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<v Speaker 1>brother in a closet attempting to commit suicide. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>later said that the reason for his guilt and why

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't kick him out, that was the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>his guilt because he tried to commit suicide. You going

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<v Speaker 1>to say I need to forgive, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard your latest podcast about forgiveness, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having trouble doing that. Thank you. My question is this

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<v Speaker 1>was my dad in the right to let my brother

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<v Speaker 1>live around me and not protect me or my sisters

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<v Speaker 1>even after he had turned eighteen. Am I in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong for hoping that my dad would kick him out

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<v Speaker 1>and try his best to protect us there. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you can help me. I get my comfort from the Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still upsets and hurts me. Thanks again, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>that one took a deep, dark turn that I was

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<v Speaker 1>not expecting. We don't read these emails before, so that yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that took a dark turn. And you're still young, Hannah nineteen, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do a quick recap here. When you're around the

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<v Speaker 1>age of seven, your older brother started sexually assaulting you,

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<v Speaker 1>and that happened for four years. He confessed from guilt

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<v Speaker 1>to your parents. At that point, you thought, okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>this is over. Something could be done to help us now,

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<v Speaker 1>but your dad did nothing. After the confession, your dad

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing and continue to let your brother live you

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Then fast forward a little bit of time

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<v Speaker 1>two years, your mom finds him trying to commit suicide

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<v Speaker 1>in a closet. Your dad says that right there, like

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<v Speaker 1>that attempted suicide was the reason I didn't kick him

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house because I'm adding this, because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that would make things worse and he would go

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<v Speaker 1>commit suicide somewhere else. You say, I need to forgive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to not yet you're implying how do

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<v Speaker 1>I do that? And then your question, your main question

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<v Speaker 1>is was my dad in the right to let my

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<v Speaker 1>brother live around me parentheses. I'm adding because he thought

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<v Speaker 1>he might commit suicide somewhere else and not protect me

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<v Speaker 1>or my sisters even after he turned eighteen. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong for hoping that my dad would kick

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<v Speaker 1>him out and try to protect his family? All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. That's a lot to unpack. His lot,

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<v Speaker 1>not not only information, but just emotionally, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah was her name, Hannah? Yeah, Hannah, so sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, Like, man, this is just heartbreaking and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just a reminder of how broken our world really is. Yeah, Hannah. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not alone in this situation. It's not the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I've heard something like this. In fact, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I've read something like this on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not alone. There are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>involved in situations like this. I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>it's common, but it's more prevalent than we could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>even imagine because most people don't say it out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're part of this sibling, weird sexual thing that,

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<v Speaker 1>like Bernie said, because we live in a broken world,

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff does exist, and most people just suppress it

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<v Speaker 1>move on. They get to be adults and they just

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<v Speaker 1>hope that they don't think about it, but it matters

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<v Speaker 1>and it still churns inside us. So you're fresh out

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<v Speaker 1>of this or kind of, but I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, like Bernie said, first of all, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>And second of all, you're not alone. There's people listening

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I promise you right now that go yep, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's me, or that was me thirty years ago, or

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<v Speaker 1>that's me right now. You are not alone in this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The first, before we start to attempt to answer these

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<v Speaker 1>questions of rights and wrongs, if you have not seen

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<v Speaker 1>or pursued like professional counseling and therapy, I would highly

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<v Speaker 1>recommend that a Christian counselor if you say that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think she said she's a belie. Lord. Okay, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of trauma that you have endured, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>in order for you to ever get to a place

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<v Speaker 1>of forgiveness and understanding grace and understanding what happened and

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<v Speaker 1>how it affected you, this is so dark and so

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<v Speaker 1>deep that I would highly recommend licensed professional Christian counselor.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that me and Griz aren't great, but you need

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<v Speaker 1>a pro to like help you process some of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for sure. Yep. So that being said, we'll try

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<v Speaker 1>to dig into it with you, and the answers to

0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.560
<v Speaker 1>your questions are very easy. But you already know that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you asked us softball questions, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to go beyond it. Your first question, was my

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<v Speaker 1>dad in the right to let my brother live around

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<v Speaker 1>me and not protect me or my sisters? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. The fact that you have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>the question means that your dad didn't go above and beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know either one of us would do to

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<v Speaker 1>make our daughters feel safe one hundred percent. Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>next part says, am I in the wrong for hoping

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<v Speaker 1>my dad would kick him out and try its best

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<v Speaker 1>to protect us. Man, That just that hurts my heart, Hannah.

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<v Speaker 1>It hurts me because not only just for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>because I know that that's truly what you feel, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that so many other people deal with this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, where you would think it's just common knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that a daddy is going to protect his little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You just think that that's, oh, that's just a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what daddies do. They protect a little girl

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<v Speaker 1>at all costs. That's what we're here for, to protect

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<v Speaker 1>our little girls. But because we live in a fallen world,

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<v Speaker 1>and because there's broken men, and because we have weak men,

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<v Speaker 1>and because not everyone has the Lord, there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>breach in that. And you are not wrong and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that your daddy should protect you, and you're not wrong

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<v Speaker 1>in hoping that he would, and then he would kick

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out, including a family member, including a suicidal family member.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think that a dad would say, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>love my son, I always love my son, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's suicidal. I don't want to lose him, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna separate him from my daughters because he's sick

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Not necessarily because my son is an evil person,

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<v Speaker 1>but because he's actually sick and he needs help and

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<v Speaker 1>he can't be around the drug right now. He's an attic.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna get him out and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>live with him, or I'm gonna or his mom's going

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<v Speaker 1>to live with him, or his uncle's going to live

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<v Speaker 1>with them, and then I'm gonna live with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna separate them. You would think that that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a normal thought from a man, but it's not. Yeah, instead,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy says, I hope it just goes away. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do believe that in God's providence, you will

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the most protective friends Mom's spouses because

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<v Speaker 1>this feeling of unprotection has been so exposed to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that it's really hard, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where you're gonna get. You're gonna have to do the

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<v Speaker 1>work to maybe get here with a counselor and unpack this,

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<v Speaker 1>to mentally really get to a place where you can

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<v Speaker 1>see that God is using this for Him to be

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<v Speaker 1>glorified some way through this broken story of yours, that

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<v Speaker 1>others may look at you and glorify him, be like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what a miracle God has done in your life, not

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<v Speaker 1>by a human hands alone, Like you have not done this.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell because I hear your story, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way somebody does and lives the way you're

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<v Speaker 1>living without the Holy Spirit and man that can be

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<v Speaker 1>true about your story. It really can. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's some work you're gonna need to do before that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just thinking of that Taylor three King's book

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<v Speaker 1>that you sent me and that I read twice because

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<v Speaker 1>it was so good. It's like we sometimes we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just not aware of, you know, the sauls in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives and our own you know, tendency to be

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<v Speaker 1>a saul until he is put in our lives. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this, you know, she she has the choice to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, her dad, or she has the choice

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<v Speaker 1>to be her and who God wants her to be

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<v Speaker 1>and be a protector. And yeah, move forward that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if that's I think it's. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of things you're gonna go. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>seek some professional help, like Bernie said, You're gonna use this.

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<v Speaker 1>This pain is going to become a purpose for you

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<v Speaker 1>to become a protector, to spread the message of others

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<v Speaker 1>for protecting. But but I want to say something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say this because in a situation that's

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<v Speaker 1>really dark, and we don't want to deny that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a dark situation for you and hurtful for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Things in life could always get worse, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe this kind of story, Hannah hear me has a

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<v Speaker 1>tendency to get worse. Here's how you're nineteen. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>being courted by men. You have a distorted view of

0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:36.240
<v Speaker 1>men and what their role in a relationship should be.

0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You could see men in a light where they you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to look for someone that's an overprotector. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to look in a light where you don't trust any

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<v Speaker 1>of them. You're going to look in a light that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's okay to be open about not trusting. But

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<v Speaker 1>either way, this story points you in a direction where

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<v Speaker 1>you have a blurred line of what a man is

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. Don't fall for that trap. That's so good,

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that's so good. I hope you're nineteen. I'm hoping you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting this. You get this message in time. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>the mail gets delivered at your house in time before

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you have this boyfriend that becomes the monster that your

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<v Speaker 1>brother or your dad was either weak or overly obsessive

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:29.600
<v Speaker 1>or addictive or controlling. Either way, please get my message, Hannah.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's not too late, have discernment. In fact, be

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<v Speaker 1>single for a while. You you are someone that should

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<v Speaker 1>be single for a while. Oh for sure. There. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a Like I said, there's a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and I'm I'm completely confident and just sharing

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys that I'm personally work with a counselor

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<v Speaker 1>in therapy. I've been through some things in my life

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<v Speaker 1>that I need help kind of from a Christian world view,

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<v Speaker 1>like unpacking and understanding, like what was God doing in

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:12.440
<v Speaker 1>this preparing me for what is next? And maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this and your story is not as traumatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's some sense of abuse, maybe there's some sense

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<v Speaker 1>of distortion of you know, male female identity, or the

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<v Speaker 1>role of a man and a woman in a marriage

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<v Speaker 1>or relationship, or a father or a mother. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we just need to like be okay with

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<v Speaker 1>taking a minute and thinking and maybe become a little

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<v Speaker 1>more self aware and humble enough to accept that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>something we just shake off and say, oh, you know,

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.679
<v Speaker 1>that was not I gotta be tough. I gotta just

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<v Speaker 1>like move on. Okay, there's a there is a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of some things we just we have to like move

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<v Speaker 1>forward forward. But if you're not taking the time to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of process those things, I think, like Granger said,

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<v Speaker 1>you could be just headed down a path that will

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<v Speaker 1>become more and more destructive. And not just for Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>but for anybody listening. Like, man, there is just life

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<v Speaker 1>and hope out there for all of us. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to just kind of stop, have some self reflection,

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<v Speaker 1>let the Holy Spirit speak to us, and then be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to like maybe go into those places. Yeah, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just yeah, our hearts are breaking for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we really hope that you can get to a

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<v Speaker 1>place of forgiveness. Yeah. Yeah, we love you and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for sharing. We'll be right back. Thanks for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. Guys, if you want to talk to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to reach out to me, you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a video map of me saying anything

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody. Maybe it's a happy birthday, or happy anniversary,

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>or Merry Christmas, whatever it might be, that whatever time

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<v Speaker 1>of year it is. I could do this through cameo

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. You just go to cameo dot com search

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<v Speaker 1>for me Grangersmith. I think it's cameo dot com slash

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>granger Smith texts you right to it. You could also

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<v Speaker 1>download the app, the Cameo app c A M EO

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<v Speaker 1>and search for me Granger Smith. And I'm making any

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<v Speaker 1>message you want. It's really cool. I sit here on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone and turn on my camera and I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you a message exactly like you want me to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're like, hey, can you tell my wife Brenda

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<v Speaker 1>that a lover and that I'm so sorry for screwing

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<v Speaker 1>everything up this year whatever it might be. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I send you a message. I'm like, hey, Brenda, I

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<v Speaker 1>just heard from Mike and I says he loves you

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just really sorry he screwed everything up, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you get back with him or whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>might be. You come up with the message and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it for you. Cameo dot com slash Granger. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the podcast. If you have a question for

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<v Speaker 1>me or Bernie, email Grangersmith podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna just talk through it like we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>cab of a truck or sitting around a campfire. This one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going through these. I have no They're totally random. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>no subject. It says, Hey Granger, please keep me anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty years old. I have grown to hate my job.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on the hunt for a new job for

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<v Speaker 1>right around a year. I know what I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to do for a career, and it's one that my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and uncle is involved in. They have all the

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<v Speaker 1>connections to get me a job, but they won't help

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<v Speaker 1>me anytime I bring it up to either one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just ignored. I've been trying to reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>different places and put out my application at a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>places with no response. Should I keep trying by myself

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<v Speaker 1>or bring it up to my dad and uncle? Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for your advice. Loving music. That's interesting. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>it's law enforcement because they don't want him to get

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<v Speaker 1>into that because they know how difficult it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your dad was a police officer, so I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up. Yeah, I'm trying to think. What could

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<v Speaker 1>it be that they Yeah, that would be tough because

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<v Speaker 1>if I would have told my dad I was going

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<v Speaker 1>into you know, police academy and law enforcement, he had

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<v Speaker 1>been like fired up. He gave his life to it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe the Sun is just kind of like lazy

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<v Speaker 1>and dumb and they're like, I can't I can't get

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<v Speaker 1>you a job. You're getting out for you man, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a reputation and make us look bad. Well

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<v Speaker 1>for our purposes, Burns, we don't have a it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the information's not here, so we got to move on

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<v Speaker 1>and give him what we know without that information. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's anonymous. He's anonymous, and can we name him Johnny? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll name him Johnny. Sure, all right, john Johnny. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't like to see email me and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like I don't like your tone. Man, I don't

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like your tone. I love I love hey man, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and my uncle. You see, they won't They just

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<v Speaker 1>won't give me the job. Come on, come on, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I love everybody at emails. Okay, I love

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, so don't hear me wrong, But I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>don't like your email. I don't like your tone. Can

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<v Speaker 1>that be the intro that you put out on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>for to promote this one? I love you guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>I like your email. So and let me read it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you got to hear what you said back to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to turn the mirror on you. And

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<v Speaker 1>you hear it and you go, oh, yeah, you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I growing to hate my job. Yeah they have I

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<v Speaker 1>like this, Senate. This is the one that gets me.

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<v Speaker 1>They have all the connections to get me a job,

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<v Speaker 1>but they won't help me. It's like that just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of defines a culture that we live in where the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I would ask is, hey, Johnny, do you

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<v Speaker 1>need their help? Are you a little boy? Because you

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<v Speaker 1>said you said you're twenty, Do you need their help

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<v Speaker 1>to get the job? Are you gonna go do it yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>What if your dad and your uncle are thinking that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see how bad he wants this, it's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes and he pours himself into it. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>out and puts himself out there and works hard and

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<v Speaker 1>earns his rights for this kind of job. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>step in and go, yeah, he wants it, will vouch

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>for him. But it sounds like you're saying they got

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>all the connections and they won't even help me anytime

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>I bring it up, they just ignore me. Like this

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 1>sounds so Johnny. I'm saying that this is gonna come

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>down to you having a man to man discussion with

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>your dad, and it's time. You're twenty, He say, Dad,

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>can I talk to you about something? I admire you

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and your brother so much. In fact, I've watched y'all

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>for years, and I've watched you succeed in this career,

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 1>whatever it might be, and I want to emulate that

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.719
<v Speaker 1>because I admire you so much, Dad, I want to

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>do that. My question is what are the steps I

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>need to take for this career? What could I do

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>on my own? What kind of skill sets could I

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>start earning and growing and learning? Do you have any

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>advice for me? You notice I'm not asking for help

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>from him this whole conversation. I'm not saying, can you

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>call somebody and set up a job interview? You're just saying, Dad,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.959
<v Speaker 1>what could I do? Please give me advice on what

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I could do to earn my way into this kind

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of position. That's a much different place. That's a humility

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're not showing on the email I that I

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>would like to see from you. And also maybe ask hey, Dad,

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>is there a reason that you wouldn't want me to

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>do this? Yeah? If it is, maybe it's law enforcement.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's just hypothetically say that maybe there's things that you

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know about it that your dad and your uncle know,

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>but maybe they just haven't communicated it to you, maybe

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>because you haven't asked or you're not showing. Maybe in

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that conversation, be like, hey, want to be like you

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>let me know, what what do you advise that I

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>can do to like kind of pursue down this path

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and Is there anything that I need to know about

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>this that a reason you wouldn't want me to do this?

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you think, Dad? So here's another example,

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like those King Crab guys, those Alaskan King Crab guys,

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a dangerous job. Maybe maybe be in a

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>prison guard dangerous job. Maybe being in the Marine Corps,

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>be in law enforcement. Maybe anything that the dad thinks

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to himself, I wouldn't I would not want my son

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to sign up for something like this. Okay. So maybe

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that's the question Bernie would like you to ask him,

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and maybe he sees himself in you and then opens up.

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me put myself in this situation, okay. Music business.

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>My son Lincoln, he's sitting around one day and he goes, Dad,

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to be I want to be in the

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>music business. And I'm like, Okay. In my mind, I'm like, man,

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>this took me a long time. That took me a

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of toil and hard work and sweat and pain

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and tears and success and failure, failure, failure, tiny success, failure, failure, failure.

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>It's hard on the heart. And so my son Lincoln says, Dad,

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I want I want to be in the music business.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Can you make some phone calls for me? And I'm

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>thinking maybe I'm not calling anybody. You got to show

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm going to call somebody first, I need

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to know that you're ready for this kind of pain.

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You're ready for this kind of sacrifice and failure and

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>minimal success and minimal money to pay the bills and

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>unstable family that if you get married, I want to

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>know that you want to push through all that. Then

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll make some calls. It's kind of the same thing

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. And I'm the dad in the situation, So

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>hate me or not. Lincoln could hate me or not.

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You could hate your dad or not. It doesn't come

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>from a place of us not wanting the best for you. Yeah,

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I think if Lincoln came to you, it was like, Dad,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I love playing music, I've watched your career. Tell me,

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>tell me the highs and lows of everything you've been through.

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>What did it take for you to because he only

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>knows you know the good stuff, tell me all the stuff.

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>It might actually he may be like, I don't want

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to do that. Yeah, that's not where I'm not going

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to have that level of sacrifice commitment because what you're

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Doesn't look and sound as you know, glamorous,

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>as you know the photos that I see on the

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>wall of you at these big concerts. It sounds like

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of not that. So that's why I think

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you got to talk to him like he's got the

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>experience doing what you want to do, and maybe that

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>would change your mind about the whole thing. Absolutely all right.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>How about this one subject line X and I dated

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>two years blindsided breakup. Hey Granger, my name is Jared.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty eight from Michigan, Love your Music. Was in

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a relationship and we had what seemed to be a healthy,

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>good and fun one came home from a trip blindsided

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and broken up, with her explanation being I didn't know

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>how to love her and she wasn't healed from a past. X. Okay,

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I didn't know me, I didn't know

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>how to love her, and she wasn't healed from a

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>past X and learned to resent me because of this.

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't one hundred percent perfect, but she had been

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>seeing a therapist but never communicated this topic to me.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Only had two decent talks and never we never fought

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>or argued. Okay, I'm trying to follow this email, and

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.959
<v Speaker 1>she said that she would have cut it off sooner

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and given me no second chances. I'm struggling now because

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>we talked about marriage and kids and building a house

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and building a life together as well as she mentioned

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>marriage to my friends and hers. Was this because of

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a therapist interjecting do I move on, work on myself

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and wait? Much love God bless with a lowercase gee? Okay,

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we got to recap this one for a second. Sorry,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I always got to get my brain. I read this

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>for the first time ever with you guys live and

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>then Jared, you're twenty eight Michigan boy love Michigan. You

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>were in a good relationship. How long, Bernie? Does it

0:33:56.000 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>say two years? And isn't it in the title ex

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of two years? Yes? Yeah, you're right, two years in

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the title? Okay, good, healthy, fun relationship, not many fights?

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>She boom, she breaks up with you. Her reason for

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 1>breaking up is you didn't love her and she wasn't

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>healed from a pass ax, so she learned to resent you.

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Because of that, she was going to a therapist. You

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't know about it. Now you're struggling because you talked

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>about marriage talked about kids, talked about building a house,

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a life, she talked about marriage to your other friend.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.959
<v Speaker 1>You're a little bit embarrassed, probably, And so the first

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>question you have, out of the thousands that come out

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of your brain right now, because you're going through heartbreak

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and you one of your questions is was it the therapist.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the therapist said something that just changed her mind.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with that. No, he also said something in

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>there though that jumped out to me. He just kind

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of sl looked it in like I wasn't one hundred

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>percent perfect. Yeah, you did say that. I want to

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>tug at that threat a little bit. I don't know

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>what you meant by that. If it was like your

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>way of being humble, being like, hey this isn't this

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't all all her, but also like a lot of

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>it was her, or if it was like, hey, like

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I did this other stuff, but you know, Yeah, he

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to like put that in the email. It

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>just in the flow of the email. It felt just

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of like slid in. And then move back on

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>to her therapist. Yeah, Jared, she had a therapist. You

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>have me and Bernie. Yes, you got a therapists too.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Kind of So what are you saying, does he does

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>he stay or go? This is so so easy, This

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>is so so but so much information and it's so easy.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>She she had a change of heart. You got to

0:35:55.640 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>move on, yep, And you say work on myself and wait,

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's just that's like an Instagram tag

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>work on yourself and weight. I don't know. What I

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>do know is you move on and you look at

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:16.399
<v Speaker 1>this as something you learn. You chalk off your loss

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and say I learned something from this and I wasn't

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. Maybe I'll try a little bit better

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>next time in the next relationship, learn some move on.

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>This is just a classic heartbreak and and heartbreak a

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a million reasons and explanations, and she's gonna give

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you all this stuff like, well, I didn't feel like

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you loved me, and oh and also my past X

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 1>you know it wasn't totally healed, and so I learned

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>to resent you because of them. So sure, she might

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>have learned that kind of language from a therapist, but

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>she didn't go to the therapist say that and then

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>realize she needs to break up with you. The girl's

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>got problems, don't we all and she doesn't love you.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>It's time to move on. Yep, time to move on,

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and time for us to move on to the next question.

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw an interesting subject I'd like to read for you, Bernie,

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>because you are good at this kind of stuff. The

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>subject line says teaching Sunday school and divided church. They're

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>going Your name is Stephanie. I'm for Berlin, Pennsylvania. First

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>of all, PA, A huge fan of everything you do.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>My family and I have seen you twice, and my

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>boys always ask me when the next best time is.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.919
<v Speaker 1>That's our meet and greet. I have two questions. First off,

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>my sister in law, Lacey, and I teach first and

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>second grade students in our Sunday school. What Bible do

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>you recommend for that age group and where would you

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>suggest we start to teach them about the importance of it.

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>We have struggled with the curriculum and most of the

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>time it is above what they can comprehend and they

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>lose interest right away. My second question is our church

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>has been struggling for a few years and I'm afraid

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of its I grew up there and I hate seeing

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the numbers continually drop. We have not had a regular

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>pastor quite some time. We're a small church that consist

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of mostly older population who do not like change. This

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>has made it hard to find the right pastor, and

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 1>therefore our youth have not been interested in participating anymore.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Any suggestions on how to bring our church back to life.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>We have quite a few youths if we can get

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>them here again. Thanks for your time, Stephanie. I always

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>wonder when I read an email from a fan that

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>actually listens and goes to meet and greets, how it

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>must feel randomly listening to the podcast And yeah, oh man,

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't That's not lost on me, y'all. It's not

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>lost to me. And I try to always keep that

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of perspective that I'm not reading just stuff on

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>my phone. I'm reading real life stories from real people

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>that are potentially really listening to me as I say it,

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and it potentially means a lot that me and Bernie

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>are gonna dive into their moment in time, So it's

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>not lost on me, and I just I love you

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>guys for that. We'll start with her first question, and

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>did you have something else? No, no, no no, I was

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>just gonna comme in on the first part. So I

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>taught elementary did you know this? Like I was? I

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>was a long term substitute teachers Austin. Yeah. That meant

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that I had like kindergarteners and all the way through

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>fifth grade. Yeah, And I got to say, like the

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>younger kids, I would want to pull my hair out,

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if anything can keep their attention,

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like so as far as like what to teach them

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and like them be able to comprehend, I'm gonna have

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to take a pass on that because I have I

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>really have no idea. I know. I have the storybook

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Bible that my son's in kindergarten, and he loves that.

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>He actually like what We've read through it many many times,

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and he'll like, remember sometimes, if I'm honest, I try

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to like, Okay, let's just get to the point, and

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll like, you know, leave out one little line of

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it and he's like, well, Dad, wasn't there also three boats?

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Like Okay, yeah, there was three boats, but that one

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they can comprehend and it all points

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to Jesus. I think that's a good one to start. Maybe, Man,

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say the same thing. I'm gonna I'm gonna

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>take a pass on this too. And here's the reason.

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Partly because you know, we could talk about it, we

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 1>could really dig into it. We could direct you maybe

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to some websites that show you. But here's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a this is a problem that's stemming

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<v Speaker 1>from your second question. Yeah, you don't have a lead pastor.

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a lead teaching pastor. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a leader of the church. Without that, he's the guy

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna give the kids the curriculum, and he's gonna

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make that and and shape that and pull

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>that from the denomination or that they're you're there, greater

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>organization that you're a part of. He's going to pull

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that so that it feeds into his style of teaching.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>And that is something only he could do. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't have that, this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>many problems you have in a church without a lead

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>pastor that makes those kind of decisions. I got a

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>country singer and his friend on a podcast cannot speak

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and should not speak into a small church in Pennsylvania

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>about what to teach their kids. For sure, we could

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>have opinions, but that I don't think it's right to

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>do that. And to your second question, this is really

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about a lot of sensitive topics and it's

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<v Speaker 1>strange to think of this one as really sensitive, but

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it actually is. Because me speaking in any way into

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership of a church that I am not connected

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<v Speaker 1>with at all is it's a dangerous territory. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to try. So please use that as a just

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of just know that this is maybe not completely

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<v Speaker 1>wise of me, and so just take that with a

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<v Speaker 1>grain of salt, that this is a friend at all.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>This is a friend at a campfire, and not any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leadership speaking into you. But it sounds like

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>your church is in really bad trouble and without a

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<v Speaker 1>leader you cannot continue to exist in this way for

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of reasons. So I would need to sit

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>with you and say, what you know, what denomination are you? What?

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>What is your greater organization that you're a part of.

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>For instance, like if it was a Southern Baptist convention,

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 1>you could you could reach out to someone there. If

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>it was like the Greater uh ARC churches or a

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Methodist organization or the Lutherans, what you could always reach

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>out that way. So I don't know what you are.

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're totally independent, which which would make things way worse,

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>because then you're really in trouble. This might be a

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>situation where you bring your members together and you call

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a member meeting and you, guys are gonna give yourself

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 1>to another church in your community, and you're gonna say,

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and this happens. I've actually seen it happen specifically in

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 1>this town where I live. You say, you say, we

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>don't have a leader, we cannot exist. An army can't

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.879
<v Speaker 1>exist without a leader. Nothing can. So we're gonna give

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>our body, our resources, our building if you need it,

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>our youth group, our hymnals, everything, We're gonna give it

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to you. We're gonna join forces if your congregation makes

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>a vote and says yes, we will accept this church

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and merge with us. Now you're gonna have to find

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the right one, the right the right pastor, the right

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>lead pastor, and that you might go down several of

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<v Speaker 1>these and I think a lot of coffee meetings and

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of prayer and a lot

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of meeting with these pastors. It's very possible that one

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>of them says, yeah, we got our doors open. We

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 1>would love for you thirty eight people or fifty four

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>p However many there are to just come right in

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>here and we'll sell your building or give up the

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>lease on it or whatever. But but this, I think

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that that is a better solution. Then you're looking for

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>another pastor to come in and fix everything that's wrong.

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>So what do you do? What was her name, Stephanie? Yeah? Okay,

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>So what do you do when Stephanie goes to the

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:43.959
<v Speaker 1>member meeting and it's a whole lot of old people. Yeah,

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>very possible that she's like she said, yeah, that they're like,

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.359
<v Speaker 1>we're not doing that. Okay, now this is the way

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>they're they're kind of like stuck in and without having

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Stephanie here to be able to ask like, what does

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the eldership of their church look like?

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>What kind of influence has is there any elders? Like

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 1>or how are you current? How long have you been

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>looking for a lead pastor how all of those questions?

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Like if you go and you just say, hey, she

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>has this idea to do this, I think if you're

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe a younger congregation that really is more active and

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>wanting to flourish and grow, and I think they could

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>be it more open. But what do you say to

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>her if she says, hey, Grangeery, I went and I

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>did that, here's what I got. What what do you

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>think I should do next? Yep, yeah, here's here's my

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>thought on that. I would. I would go out with

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a small team people that agree with you, a small

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>team and try to find some really good options that

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 1>then you bring with you to the greater group. Here's

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>here's the perfect, the ideal scenario that's in my head

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for you, Stephanie. There is a church in your community

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that is just now planting or about to break apart

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and plant. And there's a new pastor that's about to

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>start teaching in the junior high gymnasium or the movie theater,

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>or he already is in a rented space, and he

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>has twelve, fifteen, twenty five brand new members. He just

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>started three months ago or maybe during COVID, and things

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>have been hurting, and you go to him and you

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>love him and you pray with him, and you see

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>his vision and you say, look, we have a building.

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to come and take over our building

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 1>with your people? And he goes. Obviously, you know through

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the appropriate prayer. He goes, yeah, I think that would

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>think that would be incredible. He say, Okay, first first

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>matter is you got to come to our old people

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and you got to make the pitch win them over.

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>You got to win them over, and a good pastor

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>could easily do that. Say absolutely, my heart is for

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>these people. So he comes in and he says, this

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.479
<v Speaker 1>is who I am, this is what I could bring.

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing seventeen people with me and we would love

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to use your building. Yeah, and I'm not trying to

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 1>change you. I'm trying to help you flourish. Yep. Yeah, yeah,

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I saw this exact thing play out, and so it

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 1>is possible. Everything is possible with God. I do not

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>think you should continue on in this pastor search thing.

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like it's going very well and you

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>can't continue without a leader. Yeah. Yeah, it's all tell

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>me again. Thanks for having me man, Love you bro.

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