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Speaker 1: Hi, guys. This is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show

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Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season

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Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Popping Off with Teddy Mellencamp and and Emily Simpson.

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Speaker 1: How you doing? I am doing lovely And I'm going

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Speaker 1: to have to just ask you something because me and

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Speaker 1: Tamer got into a slight altercation this morning. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't major, but now I have some

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Speaker 1: grilling of you that I need to do.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, okayone, Tamer didn't even prepare me for this,

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Speaker 2: so I feel very blindsided right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, you should feel blindsided because the pressures on.

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Speaker 1: I have two questions for you, Okay. The first one

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Speaker 1: is do you know Tamra's kids' names? Yeah? Okay, what

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Speaker 1: are they? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Ryan is the oldest, Then Spencer, then Sophia is the

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Speaker 2: youngest who lives with her, and then Sidney.

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Speaker 1: Well do you know mine?

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, there's Dubs, the little one right, that's that's

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Speaker 2: really the only one I know the name. I apologize.

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Speaker 2: Do you know my kids' names.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I only knew annabel.

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Speaker 2: I know, everybody always knows Annabelle. And then it's like,

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Speaker 2: and then there's those two other little boys that nobody knows.

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Speaker 1: You do us for a real loop with having Luke

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Speaker 1: and then Keller. Yeah, because there's like a big juxtaposition

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Speaker 1: between the two names. Well, you mean, because Luke is

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Speaker 1: just like a very strong, everyday kind of name, and

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Speaker 1: then Keller's like where the hell did that come from? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well see here's why. Because they were twins and

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Speaker 2: Shane said, okay, you name one and all name the other.

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Speaker 2: So you named Keller? No, that was Shane?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: No, okay. So my original pick for my boy name

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Speaker 2: was Hunter. And then Dane would not tell me what

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Speaker 2: I can't name this kid Hunter.

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Speaker 1: I can't have Hunter and Keller. It sounds like Hunter

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Speaker 1: and it sounds like Keller.

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Speaker 2: Or it sounds like a wildlife magazine, like like a

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Speaker 2: hunting magazine, like Hunter and Keller. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: So I had to go back rewind and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well this this is all making more

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Speaker 1: but I get it. Hunter, Keller, Hunter and Keller Yeah

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Speaker 1: all right, yeah. I was thinking like a Luke and

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, well it's Luke Lucas Thomas and Keller

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Speaker 2: Lawrence because those are their grandfather's names.

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Speaker 1: And then what's Annabell's middle name?

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Speaker 2: Well, technically her name is Sarah Annabel because she's named

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Speaker 2: after my sister, because my sister carried her. But we

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Speaker 2: couldn't do Originally, we were going to do Annabel Sarah Simpson,

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Speaker 2: but then her initials would be ass ass and I

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Speaker 2: was like, I cannot do that to that child.

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Speaker 1: I actually just died. I thought that my my option

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Speaker 1: of wanting to name one of our daughters rider and

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Speaker 1: edold being like ride her right, right, but not as

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Speaker 2: Ass, right. So I had to change it to Sarah

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Speaker 2: Annabel Simpson. So now she's SaaS, but we call her Annabel,

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Speaker 2: so okay, but Sas seems pretty fitting to.

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Speaker 1: It's better than ass, that's true, So I was walking

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Speaker 1: podcast with Emily Simpson. I just saw her at a

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Speaker 1: cheer competition and you've never seen somebody more over a

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Speaker 1: breaking point? Well?

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Speaker 2: I the last cheer competition that Annabel had, I was

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Speaker 1: And it was at usc in LA and it was.

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Speaker 2: Raining and I was there for eight hours alone and

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Speaker 1: There, Can I come saying I take a photo with you.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is Were you bedazzled?

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Speaker 2: I just had a sweat. I felt like I had

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Speaker 1: So that was as spirited as I could be. But okay, well,

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Speaker 1: h Sas, maybe next time I'll come to watch you,

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Speaker 2: Well, then you're going to get the schedule, because uh,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot, yeah, and I need some I need

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Speaker 2: someone to talk to. So wait, I don't understand what

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Speaker 2: was the fight where the argument was Tamara, oh.

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Speaker 1: Because my son's name. Well it was more so because

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Speaker 1: know Kiki's kids' names. Yeah, and then Tamra said to me,

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Speaker 1: well do you know my kids' names? And there may

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Speaker 1: I don't know, she could have been given information. She

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, now I need to know

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Speaker 2: Well, see, no one ever argues like Vicky and Tammar,

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Speaker 2: because that's like another planet type of argument like those two,

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Speaker 2: Like that makes no sense to me. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. They would not be considered my friend, like

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Speaker 1: the more I'm just like, I I really I try

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Speaker 1: to avoid it. And then I now because I'm guilty

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Speaker 1: by association because my own drama with her, it just

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Speaker 1: I was involved in it. I'm like, listen, I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I just made a shitty coma at

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Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I already got enough shit for that.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm moving on and I'm trying to cause

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Speaker 1: drama with new people, which is why we've We're done.

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Speaker 1: We're done talking housewives over and pop it off. We

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Speaker 1: move on over to vander Pump rules, which let's get

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Speaker 1: into the headlines. All right, okay, this one, well, I

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Speaker 1: had to send a message to my publicist because once

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Speaker 1: again I am no longer her favorite client. Because were

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Speaker 1: you ever her favorite client? You know I wasn't. So

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Speaker 1: does she tell you that she's like, you're my favorite client. No,

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Speaker 1: anytime she posts something about one of her clients on

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Speaker 1: her Insta story, I write like, so you've now made

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Speaker 1: it clear again that I'm not your favorite client. So

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Speaker 1: yesterday she posted this, and then I saw it everywhere,

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Speaker 1: which is Chicago has best non holiday performance week and

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Speaker 1: the show's history Broadway World article here Chicago's Broadway's longest

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Speaker 1: running American musical and Ariana Maddox is currently making her

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Speaker 1: Broadway debut as Roxy Heart, and she is the highest

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Speaker 1: grossing non holiday week and twenty seven years the production gross.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know this number? Is this night one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine thousand, nine hundred and thirty nine million,

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Speaker 2: N thirty nine thousand, My goodness, forty cents. I like

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Speaker 2: take it accurate. So this is my plea.

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Speaker 1: Not only is it to our joint publicist that maybe

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Speaker 1: things to me. But also this is to Ariana, please

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Speaker 1: invite me and Emily to your show. Yes, we need

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Speaker 1: to pop off at Chicago and now give us an interview. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: did you hear that, Ariana? Did you hear it?

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Speaker 2: You know what, with Teddy being there, it might be

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Speaker 2: over a million for the week because she has a

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows whr Teddy Mellon camp is so and Emily's

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Speaker 1: going to be there in her sheer gear. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring I'll bring ass. But I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: a good excuse for us to zip over to New

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Speaker 1: York watch this. We'll just zip over there. We'll zip

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Speaker 1: over because we also need to ask. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: need to talk about all the successes, but we also

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Speaker 1: need to talk about these tiktoks and if there's a

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Speaker 1: reality to the fact that something about her has nothing

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Speaker 1: inside of it. Yeah, I told you, I got a DM.

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Speaker 2: Someone was telling me it's closed, like it never opened

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Speaker 2: and never will.

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Speaker 1: It's never opened. But do we know if there's anything

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Speaker 1: we need boots on the ground, somebody going peeking their

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I'll put my my my workers out

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Speaker 1: Okay. Also, when I think it's kind of near Jeff Lewis,

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Speaker 1: so maybe we could do a field trip. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we could. Jeff Lewis probably loved field trips. He'd be like,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Okay. This next one is in regards to

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Speaker 1: Jax Taylor. Jax Taylor explains how The Valley is different

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Speaker 1: from vander Pump Rules and reveals Hill Du Du Du

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Speaker 1: still the villain. No shit, Jacks, of course, you're still

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Speaker 1: going to be the villain villain. More than three years

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Speaker 1: after he and wife Brittany left vander Pump Rules, Jackson

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Speaker 1: I was always kind of the scapegoat on vander Pump Rules.

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Speaker 1: I overshadowed everybody else's well, listen, you know what I

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Speaker 1: And no matter what they all did, it would always

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Speaker 1: come back on me, because you're always involved, Jacks. So

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Speaker 1: no matter what anybody else did, they all did the

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Speaker 1: same exact sames that I did believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: I want to come back, but I wanted to do

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Speaker 1: it differently. Jack's added he said the birth of his son, Cruise,

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Speaker 1: was the real kicker for him to make some changes.

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Speaker 1: I will never make any poor decisions again because I

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Speaker 1: have a son. Obviously, that villain he's always going to

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Speaker 1: be there. I have to work very, very hard in

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Speaker 1: life to keep that guy quiet. I'm like, are you

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Speaker 1: the villain or are you not the villain? I just

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Speaker 1: saw you on House of Villains. Well, he's a changed man.

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Speaker 1: So he says he's never going to make a poor

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Speaker 1: out on camera. And we're going to hold you accountable

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Speaker 1: to that, Jacks, because we will. I'm sure we're going

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Speaker 1: to be watching the valley and talking about it, and

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Speaker 1: and get Emily's Gavil where is it right here to

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Speaker 1: that's definitely right in nineties. But did she I want

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Speaker 1: Please save Tamra's bathtub scene and do that on camera

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Speaker 2: I think it would be epic. Shane would literally turn

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Speaker 1: Well, no, he would not. He would He would be

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Speaker 1: this is season eleven? What do we think Tom's actually

431
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: making this season? Because it's got to be different than

432
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: a Housewives scale, because they still glam themselves. Yeah, I

433
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: know that.

434
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I mean, I don't know what

435
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: they I don't have any idea. It is season eleven,

436
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 2: so he's been on TV a long time. Plus he

437
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: just filmed that show whatever he was doing in New Zealand,

438
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 2: and he filmed Special Forces Mass Singer. So, like we're talking,

439
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: he's got to have a decent amount of money. But

440
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: he also funds his band like this, So the band

441
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: isn't really bringing in a lot of money. It's costing

442
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: him money. Well, I think it brings him money to

443
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: be a rock star. Well, I mean I.

444
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: Think he gets paid, but I don't. I do know

445
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: my dad who is you know, hate to brag, but

446
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: a legitimate touring right, who's your dad? I don't remember.

447
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: Oh I know, never mentions it, right, but he can say.

448
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: He will say, like, touring is not where you make

449
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: your most money, right, It's so you're just out there.

450
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: You're out there, you're getting your name out there, you're

451
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: making people happy, you're hearing the new they're hearing the

452
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: new songs, they're doing whatever. So I mean that's sold

453
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: out huge auditoriums. And you know, I don't know that

454
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Tom's band is necessarily that situation, and he's already said that.

455
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: So I do know. We've we watched last season. Tom

456
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: like having to pay his bandmates doing this. It's not

457
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: like it's all like a package deal. So Billy Leave

458
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: photographed at Tom Sandoval's home after arian and Maddox claimed

459
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: she moved in, Billy Lee was spotted outside. So arian

460
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: is in New York. She's saying she went to New

461
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: York and and Billy Lee has now moved in with Tom.

462
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: Lee's friendship with Sandoval has raised eyebrows with vander Pump

463
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: Rules viewers for years, with Lala Kent and Sheinachet even

464
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: suggesting Lee and Sandoval had hooked up in the past.

465
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: One month after news of the affair broke, Lee claims

466
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: she can support and be there for both parties instead

467
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: of choosing between Sandoval and Maddox. Well, clearly she made

468
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: a choice when she moved into the house while Marianna

469
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: was away. I feel like that was a definite choice made.

470
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't move into somebody's house.

471
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: Knowing that two people own the home, Like if you

472
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 2: go away, I'm not going to go move into your house.

473
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: I mean it would be a little weird if I

474
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: came home and you had moved in, right, But all

475
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: of it is just so messy. It's so messy.

476
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: You know why it's also so messy is because they

477
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: have this court hearing in what June too. She wants

478
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: to force the sale of the home. But all I

479
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: can think about the whole time I watched this episode

480
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: is how messy everything is because she's not paying bills.

481
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: He has to cover bills. This person apparently moved in

482
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: and should be paying rent. I doubt she's paying rent.

483
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's a mess. This is a mess, but

484
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: no one else is messy. Ari on his bedroom, Yes.

485
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: I tell you. Every time I see it, I feel

486
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: like I've watched an episode of Hoarders. It really gives

487
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: me anxiety. I mean anxiety too. I mean it's getting

488
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: messier as the episodes go on, But the rest of

489
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: the house looks immaculate. So I'm confused. If she just

490
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: kept like putting her whole entire life in there, and

491
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: things would normally be other locations, but because she doesn't

492
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: want to be outside of her room, now it's all

493
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: but they're like clothes and stuff. Well, it's it's just

494
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: boxes and clothes and crap everywhere. I couldn't live like that.

495
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: I would go insane.

496
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: I mean, even if I didn't want to run into

497
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: him in the hallways or the kitchen or whatever, I

498
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: still would need an organized space with in my own space,

499
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: Like I don't get it.

500
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: No, the day after I get home from a trip,

501
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: when all my stuff is in suitcases and I need

502
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: to like put everything away is like the most anxiety

503
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: driven day just seeing it all around and needing to

504
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: get washed and cleaned. And it's a lot for me.

505
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: Maybe so you and Arianna could never live together? No,

506
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: or I mean I don't think I could live with

507
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: Tom either, or Billy Lee or the band manager or

508
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: Anne who brought in baby shower him? Do you like

509
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: the Blues? But before I mean, we're like, before we

510
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: get into the episode, as you've already talked about the

511
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: whole episode, but vander from Villa trailer reveals physical altercations,

512
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: steamy hookups, and an unhappy Lisa. Don't get sloppy. It's

513
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: a People magazine article that I'm a filled reality series

514
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: set and Lisa vander Pump's luxury French chateau is coming

515
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: to Hulu. This spring. Lisa vander Pumps expects nothing but

516
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: perfection at her exclusive French chateau, but her staff members

517
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: have other ideas. While the staff members attempt to meet

518
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: vander Pump's expectations and upcoming unscripted docudrama, they also prove

519
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: there's no shortage of drama happening behind the scenes. In

520
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: the trailer, We'll just have to see, We'll have to

521
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: see if this is going to be another vand of

522
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Pump dogs of it all, or if this is really

523
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: going to deliver. Let's hope that it does. You want

524
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: it to deliver. Yeah, I want any like I if

525
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: you're going to do a show, and let's have the

526
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: show be good. Yeah. Even if I'm not somebody's biggest fan,

527
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: I still want them to succeed.

528
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: I don't need Well, that's very very supportive of you.

529
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: You want Vicki to succeed. I would love Vicki to

530
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: succeed so that she could stop trying to go after

531
00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: every other human in her life. That does everything a

532
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: lot easier. Maybe she just succeeded in some friendships. Things

533
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: would go a little bit smoother. Okay, so now we're

534
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: officially that episode two. Tom is back from New Zealand

535
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: after filming Special Forces. Things are not okay between Tom

536
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: Sandval and Tom Schwartz. Schworts went on Jack's podcast and

537
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: talked shit about him, so Sandoval feels betrayed. I don't

538
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: did you think that, like Schwartz was really talking shit

539
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: or he was just like I've been in the middle

540
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: of this for so long. No, I didn't think Schwartz

541
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: was talking shit.

542
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: I felt like Schwartz was just I mean, he's allowed

543
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: to have an opinion about what he went through. I mean,

544
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: what's he supposed to say, Like it was great, it

545
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: was amazing. I mean, the business was affected, and you know,

546
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: people are writing horrible reviews and he's trying to deal

547
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: with the restaurant bar and you know, Tom I know

548
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: where to be found, and I feel like he's allowed

549
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: to have an opinion Shorts.

550
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: You can tell every time he's filming he's true in

551
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: her They're like bloody nubs. At this point, he's obviously

552
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: stressed out. He needs a prozac, Like stat Well last

553
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: reunion he brought Xanax or Watch What Happens Live clearly

554
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: clearly he needs it. But it starts off with Ann

555
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: or Anne or letting Arianna know that it's Tom's birthday

556
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: and he wants to have a party and tells Arianna

557
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: I he'll put her up in a nice place. I

558
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: don't understand.

559
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: Why did she not take up the nice hotel room.

560
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen her bedroom? I would take

561
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: the nice hotel room. It would be like bids get messy.

562
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

563
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I would want to move out

564
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: of that bedroom and have a nice hotel room that's

565
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: clean with some room service.

566
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And especially once we see her scene with Laala

567
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: where she says that they're always paying for places for

568
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: her and her boyfriend to stay at because they don't

569
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: stay at the house. I'm like, what, listen, if Edwin

570
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: wanted to have a Super Bowl party and would put

571
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: me up in a hotel room, you would take it.

572
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: I would be like I would be in a dead

573
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: run there, like wiving through this rain.

574
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

575
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: I got it met too. But I guess the difference

576
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: is you don't hate Edwin at least not today currently.

577
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: Right. No, I don't hate him today. I mean tomorrow

578
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: it could change, but today I love him. But he

579
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: also is out of town right now, and I'm all

580
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: right with it. Yeah, I think that's the way to

581
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: a healthy marriage. Is a lot of time apart. But

582
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: this episode, you can see Anne is deciding it's time

583
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: to upload her resume. She's like, let me get this

584
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: LinkedIn figured out. I'm done. I need a new job.

585
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't know I was gonna have to

586
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: blow up balloons. She's like, not part of the job description.

587
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't.

588
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: Realize that I'm being an assistant meant letting your dogs

589
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: go out potty. I mean there's text messages when they're

590
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: walking out of the room. I'm coming down to let

591
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: the dog out. Then she asked, Okay, no problem, he's

592
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: in the gym, Like is a shit ass job? Is

593
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: community job?

594
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: That's terrible? That's like, that's like you're just like a

595
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: kid trying to coordinate mom and dad when they're in

596
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: the middle of a divorce and you're you're trying to

597
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: like be nice to both sides and figure it out.

598
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: I mean, and she gets paid to do that. Like

599
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: that's terrible. Well, I see why does he need an

600
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: assistant to just is that he needs an assistant just

601
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: to communicate with Arianna?

602
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Well, if he was looking for a mediator. He probably

603
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: could have picked a more forceful one, like bitch, she

604
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: doesn't get them on Saturday. I guess she was there

605
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: before the breakup, so who knows she didn't sign up

606
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: for this. I guess because she was already doing the job.

607
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're going to go work for

608
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Tom Sandaba, all what you're signing up for, I'm sorry

609
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: you just do Yeah, just like you know, if you're

610
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: gonna come work for me, I'm gonna be type A

611
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: controlling all of the things. You no, I know, what

612
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: do you like to work for? Emily? Probably the same

613
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: as you I was Beach, I like doalcile flower. Yeah,

614
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: I'm a type A for sure. Well, then, after ten years,

615
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: Lisa has decided to close Pump. Lisa says it's very bittersweet,

616
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: but the rent is going up and Ken is looking

617
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: to retire. Lisa says, if they take it on for

618
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: another ten years, Ken will be in his eighties working.

619
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: But now I'm confused because why do they need to

620
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: close Pump but they're opening the French chateau.

621
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's confluent. Is Ken at the French chatsat or

622
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: did he stay home? Was he taking care of Jiggy

623
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: number three. I don't know was he working at pump anyway,

624
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: It's unclear.

625
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: But my favorite part is that Lisa's hairdresser asking what

626
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: she wants to do with her hair, as if it

627
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: hasn't been the same since in nineteen eighty two. That's Patrick.

628
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: Did you know Patrick used to do Gina's hair?

629
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Well, that tracks just for like the first season.

630
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: I think he did her, uh, her hair for the

631
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: first season. Oh, I don't know that I would put

632
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: either of those hairs on my resume. This is coming

633
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: from this hair right now. Yeah, you shouldn't really talk

634
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: right now. Listen. I don't really have but nobody did

635
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: my hair today. If it was done, you've got some

636
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: regrowth going on too. I have read with the second

637
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: I get my hair colored. I had like dark hair

638
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: and then I bleach it out. And you know, I mean,

639
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm not shaming anyone's hair, but I laughing at that resume.

640
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: It's as good as Anne's. Oh, here's another good job. Jason,

641
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 1: Tom's friend and manager of the band Yeah comes Over,

642
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: says Tom has lost a lot of long term friends

643
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: since the scandabal bro and Jason has stuck by his side.

644
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: Jason asked Tom if he's heard from Keel slash Rachel.

645
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Tom said he hasn't heard from her in a few

646
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: weeks and is still very much in love with her.

647
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: He wants to give their relationship a real chance. Tom

648
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: tells Jason that Ariana said he couldn't have people over.

649
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Tom wonders if they could compromise and have everyone out

650
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: at midnight. He has an send a text. Anne has

651
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: fast thumbs and gets out too quick. But know what

652
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I want to know for real? Yeah, what Anne is

653
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: texting to her actual friends or her co host on

654
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: the podcast when all this shit. She's like, this job,

655
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: that's what she's texting. Yeah, She's like, I'm blowing up

656
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: balloons and picking up poop and getting male with lightning

657
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: bolts on it. My life becomes I got to listen

658
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: to a white noise machine. I'm going in. I went

659
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: to Harvard. She's like, that's it. I'm getting my own podcast.

660
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to do something and bring my ah. But

661
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: this podcast name should be poor Anne. This episode, then

662
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: we get to Ariana telling Lala that Tom is trying

663
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: to have a party at the house. Lala says, from

664
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: a logical standpoint, he can't have a party at the house.

665
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: Laala asked if it would be easier to move out.

666
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Lala's pretty much asking all the questions I feel like

667
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: we would be asking. See I am Laala, Like when

668
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: Lala comes onto the scene, I'm like, yes, thank you,

669
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: because these are the questions I would be asking, like

670
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: why can't he have a party? It's his house too,

671
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: Why can't you compromise? Why aren't you moving out?

672
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: These are the questions I want to hear answers, sue,

673
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 2: thank you, Laala.

674
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: And especially if Ariana is in a place with the

675
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: new boyfriend who I won't be able to remember name

676
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: until we actually see him on our screens. You're a

677
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: visual You're a visual person. I'm a visual person, so

678
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: it's like I need the constant visual But that his

679
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: name's David. It's Dan, it's Dan. Clearly I'm a visual

680
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: person too, so Dan, especially when she says that for

681
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: the first time ever, she is considering wanting to have

682
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: children and she feels like Dan would be this partner,

683
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: and all of these things, like if you are this

684
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: type of in love with another person, I'm not saying

685
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: you even need like to give up any of your

686
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: rights to the house, but you could still move out. Yeah.

687
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I assume her attorney adviser not to move

688
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: out because it looks like she abandoned the property.

689
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: So I know that's why she's staying.

690
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: I get that, But I just feel like, maybe if

691
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: she like letting him have a party, maybe think of

692
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: it like this. If she let him have a party

693
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: and said, Okay, cool, no problem, if she gives a little,

694
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: then maybe there's the opportunity to have a conversation where

695
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: she's like, hey, let's figure out the house situation. Maybe

696
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: we don't have to pay attorneys. Like if if everybody

697
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: just gives a little, then he'll give a little. But

698
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: when you're just like, no, you can't have people over,

699
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: then he's going to be like you, I'm not going

700
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: to sell the house.

701
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: So well, of course that's not gonna happen, Emily. That's

702
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: called growth, and that is clearly not. But you can

703
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: as this conversation continues to go on, you can see

704
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: the moment in ari on his eyes when she realizes

705
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: La La is playing the audience's voice this season. She's

706
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: like shit, yeah, Like she's like, damn it. She's like,

707
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: if I know Lala was doing this, I would have

708
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: blown out my hair today. She was like, I was

709
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: hoping the scene wasn't even gonna get shown. She's like,

710
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: listen when I when they said we're gonna go get

711
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: a smoothie, I thought this was going to be a

712
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: one and done camp. This is b roll, but it's not.

713
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: But what I can realize with this relationship, and I

714
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: know you didn't watch last season, but you see how

715
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: hard Lalla rode for Ariana last season. And I'm not

716
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: saying that she's not now, but what you do see

717
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: is how awkward the friendship is between Lala and Ariana.

718
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: Like they don't know each other, Like they don't have

719
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: like a commonality.

720
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: There's it's very uncomfortable, it is, But I do I

721
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 3: do appreciate that La La asks the questions that everybody's

722
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: sitting there thinking, so, yeah, but.

723
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: Why do you think they're having such a hard time communicating?

724
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: They're just different. I think they're just two totally different people.

725
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: And that's what happens when you have a cast, right,

726
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, think about housewives, like all these women, I mean,

727
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: would you necessarily be friends with them in real life?

728
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: Because you got to get like your logical one, and

729
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: then you have to get like, you know, the messy one.

730
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: And so I think it's the same with Vanner Pump.

731
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: You have in order for it to work, you have

732
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: to have a lot of different personalities. So well, I mean,

733
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: who is the one on your.

734
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: Cast Emily, Like, who's well okay? So you have like

735
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: the relatable one like Gina, and then you have Heather,

736
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: which is like the opulence, and then you have I

737
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: don't know what I am. I guess I'm just the one.

738
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm just the one that always asks the questions that

739
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: nobody else does.

740
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: I do that. You're the Lallas, so you are kind

741
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: of like her. I can I can be all right

742
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: with that. Then we see Lisa and Can arrive at

743
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: the pump closing party, Katie, Sheena, Arianna, and Tom Schwartz arrive.

744
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: Lisa asks Tom how his business is going. And at

745
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: this point this is where you see the cast divide,

746
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: which I don't like. Just like, take a breath and

747
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: just talk to short shorts shorts, right, but why are

748
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: we putting like shorts didn't do this. Shorts didn't do this.

749
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: If you're going to go to these group events, then

750
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: just go with the flow. Yeah, go with the flow,

751
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Go with the flow. Speaking of speaking of flow, Sina

752
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: goes into the music studio to record a Good as

753
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: Gold remix for the Emo Night. Brock says he loves

754
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: this version of his wife and she was made for

755
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: the spotlight. But then this next scene was a little

756
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: this next thing couldn't oh oh, I could not watch

757
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: that scene. I had to, like, I had to like

758
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: pause it because my kids walked in the room. I

759
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: was like, ah no, it was like very when they're

760
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: talking about the the O c D and then rock

761
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: starts to like come for her, and then the mom

762
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: steps in. I'm like, wait, I was talking about the

763
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: music video.

764
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh you were talking about the porn the pan Yeah. No, yeah, yeah,

765
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: I was talking about when they did like the flashback

766
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: to her music video and I was like, oh, hotly, crap,

767
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: what's the thing happened?

768
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: What is on my screen? I had HBO after Dark?

769
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: What the hell? You're like? Hold on? And I didn't. Okay, yes,

770
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: there's like half flapping going. You're like, I think she

771
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: made out with that guy too on like a past season.

772
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean Brett, his name is Brett, Brett was hot,

773
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: but he was he was very hot, but yeah, that

774
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. I was very uncomfortable watching. And I love

775
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: this side of Sheena. She's a little star. It was

776
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: almost as cringe as the scene with them talking about

777
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: the OCD where you can tell Brock has gone off

778
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: script and kind of called Sheena out on some things,

779
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: and it like, it's hard because I have been where

780
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: Sena has been with that OCD, postpartum OCD and anxiety,

781
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: and so I feel her Mine wasn't about dying when

782
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: it comes to the kids are not being able to

783
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: be with my kids alone, but mine was about like

784
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: scheduling and everything having to be perfect and if it

785
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: wasn't perfectly aligned, I made everybody's life living hell. Yeah,

786
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it presents itself in different ways,

787
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: but this is the issue. When you hear Brocks stand

788
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: up and say those things, I know he's wanting to

789
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: help Sheena, but then I also know his history and

790
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: then I go down all the rabbit holes and now

791
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to go down Brock's history, all right,

792
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: X on that rabbit hole. Okay, so I'm gonna have

793
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: to do for next week, all right, Okay?

794
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: I felt I did feel like he was very supportive

795
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: when she was in the studio and he was like, yeah,

796
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: like my wife's a badass, And I was like, that's

797
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: so nice, Like he's so he's like her hype man

798
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: and like her cheerleader.

799
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: That was cool.

800
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: But then the scene with the mom in the living

801
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: room and the OCD, it took a turn and we

802
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: just took a dtour really fast. Well, I think it's

803
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: also I don't know. I know you have a good

804
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: relationship with Shane's mom, but does she live with you?

805
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: No?

806
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: No, she lives in a huge mega mansion across Yeah.

807
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know if Sheena's mom lives

808
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: with them, but I can imagine having somebody's mom around

809
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: all of the time, Yeah, having their side, having her back.

810
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: Can I ask what was your opinion when they were

811
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: kind of arguing a little bit about the OCD and

812
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: him wanting her to be able to go out and

813
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: leave the child with someone else, and then the mom

814
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: got involved. Do you think that a parent should get

815
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: involved in that conversation? No, see, I didn't think I

816
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: didn't think so either. I to me, I felt like

817
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: it was a little out of line. I felt like

818
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 2: she should have let the two of them work it out.

819
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: And I understand it's her daughter, since she so she

820
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: wants to have her back, But.

821
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't know.

822
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: I just I felt like in a situation like that,

823
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: like it wasn't necessary for her to get involved in that.

824
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: What would have made it feel more authentic to me?

825
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you can tell the mom's getting annoyed in

826
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: the moment, stands up for her daughter. But what I

827
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 1: feel like would have happened if it was like Ed's

828
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: mom and blah blah blah, you know, like there was

829
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: multiple people. I feel like Rock and Sheena could have

830
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: had that conversation the mom witnessed it, and then Sheena

831
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: and her mom went and had a conversation somewhere else

832
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: to talk about Brock's behavior or what Black said and

833
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: how it affected her. Right, But the mom getting involved

834
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: in the moment, and then the new girl coming over

835
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: and being involved too, I was like, this is kind

836
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: of a pile on. Yeah, but I mean it's a

837
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: challenging issue that everybody goes through, so yes, you need

838
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: to see that. And I think they're probably just frustrated

839
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: with each other because also, and I love she and

840
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I have spent a lot of time with her. I

841
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: really love her. She has so much fun. But I

842
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: think your life as a couple changes so much when

843
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: you have your first child together. And if you're used

844
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: to going and doing all the fun things and partying

845
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: and just being NonStop and you're on a television show

846
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: and you live into life stops, there's a real wake

847
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: up call. Yeah.

848
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: Well, I assume that his issue is he misses his

849
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: why he misses, And you know, I've always read that

850
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: it's health that you have to work on your relationship,

851
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: your relationship between mom and dad first, and then it

852
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: trickles down into the kids. So I mean, I assume

853
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: he's just he just wants to spend alone time with her,

854
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, And I'm and I think that's what

855
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: which isn't coming from a bad place. That's important in

856
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: a relationship, but his he may have had a touch

857
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: of like the wrong tone to go about it. I think, Well,

858
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: that's I was gonna say. The delivery was off. I

859
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: think I think the intent behind it was good and

860
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: that he wants to spend time with his wife, but

861
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: the delivery was off and the mom being there made

862
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: it awkward too.

863
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: So awkward, But I can't say this. I saw the

864
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: mom at a birthday party recently with Summer, and she

865
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: is lovely and so nice and said that Sheena and

866
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: her they went and got their skin checked, and like, so, yeah,

867
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: good good people.

868
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: You can you know what, eh, you know, I totally

869
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: can tell they have a great relationship. I just wondered,

870
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: like what your thought was on that? If what I

871
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: would have not wanted my mom to pipe in? Yeah,

872
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have either, but you know, but if it

873
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: was Shane's mom, she would have. She would have, you know,

874
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 2: like a Persian mom. If Sane and I were arguing,

875
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 2: she would probably jump.

876
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: Right in there and get inside. Yeah. But then we

877
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: get to Tom and Tom meet Santoval tell Schwartz that

878
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: Shorts that he's sorry for the collateral damage he caused.

879
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: Santaval said he had to do it because of his

880
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: bank account. I mean, we kind of already talked about this. Obviously,

881
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: these two two are going to make up. I mean,

882
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: the thing that I can't move away from is something

883
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: you actually said yesterday on the group text, which is

884
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: we need a flow chart of all of the people

885
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: having sex who they've had sex. Was when they cheated, Like,

886
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: the fact that this has been magnified to this level

887
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: is a lot. Then in the quick scene at James's

888
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: house when Ali got chills because James got a text

889
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: from Santoval, my birth chart called bullshit? Oh yeah, you

890
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: believe that happened in that moment?

891
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, No, I think she's definitely overplaying that whole

892
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: heart and how much she's affected by it and all that.

893
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. But then I call it bullshit on birth charts.

894
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Let's take like, let's be real, Allie reads mine, and

895
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: I say this on maybe she could do a reading

896
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: on popping off. We're inviting all the people, So Ali,

897
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: will you come to a reading for us? Us? I

898
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: want to see if it's bullshit or not. We want

899
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: to see what it says. Then Tom's birthday party also

900
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: knows the most awkward event of all times, right, I

901
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: don't understand why, Like, if you're not drinking, do you

902
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: really need to simulate drinking a fake shot? I? Yeah, no,

903
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: Well I don't know what sears I guess, but like

904
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: who wants the non alcoholic shots? Like, no, if you're

905
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: not drinking, don't take a shot. Let's do let's do

906
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: something else to celebrate, like maybe sing happy birthday yeah,

907
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: or or or have the fun colorful balloons that everyone

908
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: could look at him, maybe make like a balloon game.

909
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe do about anything other than have this awkward

910
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: small talk conversation with the white noise machine and the

911
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: dirty bedrooms. But yeah, James shows up and in a

912
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: shocking turn of events that he's awkwarded didn't go well.

913
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: No, didn't go well. I like how he's like, who

914
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: are all these random people? And then some random guy

915
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: comes up to him and talk to him and he's like,

916
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: like this guy tries to get involved.

917
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: Like I thought he was just gonna have a small talk,

918
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: but no, he was talking about how james behavior affected him.

919
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: And then they panned to like Tom being like, look

920
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: I still have friends, and you like these are Anne's

921
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: friends that she might yeah, that's her group chat, but

922
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: it's it's a little rough going other than shorts cake

923
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: that he brought, even though there was already like sixty

924
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: two other cakes.

925
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: And but but there's all the flowers. Aren't those the

926
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: flowers for Ariana's birthday? So Ariana's birthday must be around

927
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: the same.

928
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: Time as Tom's or are they apology flowers to Ariana

929
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: from who? From Tom? I'm like, no, from like everybody,

930
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry this happened.

931
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: Flowers Like she just gets flowers all the time, from constant,

932
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: constant flow of flowers.

933
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I mean, I'm ready, Shane would sheet on me.

934
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: I'd be like on Broadway, like I'd be getting money

935
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: and flowers and jobs.

936
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: Damn, we're just here instead. I'm just here in front

937
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, last your pink back great well.

938
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: Behind me and I'm like, you know, picking up kids

939
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: from school and making dinner and remodeling my kitchen and

940
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, oh.

941
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: By the way, you're right. It probably could have been

942
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: from marian his birthday because her birthday is June twenty

943
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: fourth and Tom's birthday is July seventh, Which does that

944
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: mean they have a similar birth chart? Because it's a similar.

945
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: We would have to ask Ali, when is your birthday

946
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: January eighteenth? I am a Capricorn, I'm July first, and

947
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm a cancer.

948
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: Do we get along well capricorn and cancers? I don't know. Alie,

949
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: are Emily going to continue a good relationship? Is going

950
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: to work?

951
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: Now you're asking her to be a fortune teller along

952
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: with a birth chart reader. But you're asking a lot

953
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: of this girl, and now she's.

954
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: Gonna have to train Rachel's dog. He saw so many things.

955
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: But so anyways, James comes in, he what is he

956
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: even at? Ask if Tom he was apologized for betraying him,

957
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: and Sandoval says he was so angry because of that

958
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: ship that happened with Kristen, which takes us back to

959
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: Jillian seasons ago. James says this is embarrassing and that

960
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: Sandoval has a lot of growing up to do. Then,

961
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: after he tells him he's got a lot of growing

962
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: up to do, then he storms out and peees on

963
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: the bush. Yeah, and my favorite part of the entire

964
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: episode is Colli, our first chart reader, sorry honest bushes.

965
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: She was very concerned about that bush. She's like, only

966
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: on half of it, only p on the clean side half.

967
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: Let's do a partian but a white machine and in

968
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: between the bush so we can tell who is who? Yeah,

969
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: but I mean at the risk of being flamed. I

970
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: do think at this point the whole cast being less

971
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: than ethical is valid.

972
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, can I can I ask the question about when

973
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: James said, you know, aren't you apologize for the ultimate betrayal.

974
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: So his ultimate betrayal is he's talking about the fact

975
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: that Tom slept with Raquel, but Raquel was engaged to James.

976
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: Is that the ultimate betrayal that he's speaking of.

977
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: Yes, they were already broken up, not on justifying it,

978
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: but that he didn't get He always looked at Tom supposedly,

979
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: which I just don't really buy either, But supposedly James

980
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: always looked up to Tom as a role model, and.

981
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: That's how I would describe Tom Sander. Role models the

982
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: first thing that comes to mind.

983
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's how people describe us as well, but

984
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: that role model, and that once this happened, James was

985
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: never given a heads up, and so he feels like

986
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: that was the ultimate betrayal. However, we have to go

987
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: back to a million seasons ago when Kristen and James

988
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: allegedly had an affair and then Tom and Arianna had

989
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: an emotional affair at the same time. It's like it's

990
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: just endless.

991
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: But Tom brought that up and then James said, like,

992
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: don't go there like that, like meaning like that that

993
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: affair years ago doesn't count, Like I feel like there's

994
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: different rules in this group, Like if it happened ten

995
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: years ago. It doesn't count. We don't talk about that.

996
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it doesn't fully track. Like if you've all

997
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: been friends forever and there's multiple cheating things that happen

998
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: like this is that's this is the group. This shouldn't

999
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: be a huge shock. I mean, with Sandoval's indiscretion worse overall,

1000
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 1: probably in regards to cheating. But we have to be real.

1001
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: None of these people are angels and they're all out

1002
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: to get each other in some curiosity, except maybe. I mean,

1003
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: I didn't really get to talk about Katie this episode,

1004
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: but I don't. She just seems like she's just gonna

1005
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: say what she feels and she's really not trying to

1006
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: get after anyone at this point except for her like

1007
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: discuss for shorts. Yeah, she hates shorts. She hates shorts. Yeah.

1008
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: Well that was this episode. Guys. Thanks for tuning in

1009
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: to another episode of popping off Oh and closing with

1010
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: the combin this is our how our signs work with

1011
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: one another. Okay, let's hear it. With their combination of

1012
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: down to earth practicality and tender emotion, these two signs

1013
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: have the potential to balance each other out. Beautifully and

1014
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: I Understanding and embracing their differences, Capricorn and cancer can

1015
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: create a powerful, lasting bond that will stand any challenge.

1016
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. That should be our

1017
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: new intro. That's our new intro. Read like that with

1018
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: a dramatic reading by Teddy Mellencamp. Thank you for the

1019
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: dramatic reading.

1020
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I have a gabble gabble time, okay on

1021
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: something I I oh, I can't think of things. We

1022
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: have to come with a verdict. Oh yeah, what is

1023
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: something that we're going to do at the end of

1024
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: every podcast?

1025
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: We have to have like a thing, like a like

1026
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: a Okay.

1027
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: I do feel like Ali's comment about the bush was

1028
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: the best comment in the whole thing.

1029
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: So best comment, best comment. Okay, that works. Yeah, Now

1030
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna be better prepared for this time. We're going

1031
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: to be I do think Laala is plent is the

1032
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: voice of reason, the audience point of view so far

1033
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: this season. This could change, but that's how I feel

1034
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: right now. Way to go, La, Way to go. Yeah,

1035
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: golf collapse golf club, and we are looking forward to

1036
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: our invitation to Chicago. Yeah, so go ahead and you

1037
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: can slide into our dms uh Broadway.

1038
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Yes, we want to go see that Chicago,

1039
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: right yeah? Are you talking about?

1040
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh eight out of ten old birthday flower bouquet.

1041
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: And the last verdict. I am going to render Ariana

1042
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: a hoarder.

1043
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: Done. That is our hot takes from Veriable Books and

1044
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: will be back in a week.

1045
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: Bye bye, mm hmmm mm hmmm